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hello, is this the meeting place on ntv, the place where everything becomes clear? i'm andrey norkin. my colleague is ivan trushkin. we work directly on the air, first a few words, let's say, and a few frames of e, we will show e about this story with an american reaper shot down on the black sea. we already talked about this yesterday. well, the information is coming. here is what i would like to highlight. and the day before, after the same, when we finished our work , we went off the air, and then defense minister sergei shoigu received a call from his american colleague. louisin, head of the pentagon called,

according to our department of defense in order to find out. now i'll say rather discuss pardon causes and consequences crash. this drone rapper shoigu told austin that drone flights in the united states the coast of crimea are provocative and create prerequisites for escalation. at the same time , he stressed that russia is not interested in this very escalation, but in all provocations. will continue to respond for the size, and after the conversation of the defense ministers it became. it is known that the chairman of the us chiefs of staff mark milli. e, requested a conversation with his colleague, general gerasimov, the head of our general scale. and this conversation also took place yesterday, but here the truth is special details. we don't know. well, just an hour ago , the pentagon released video footage. this very incident over the black sea between our su-27 and the mq9 ripper american drone means the pentagon is a video

that, in fact, was called a russian attack. su- however frame. if you look at the whole thing, they say something completely different , you can see how the plane approaches the drone twice and apparently dumps fuel, but, but no attack is visible on the frames collision or critical encounter more than that after both of these incidents. the drone continues to stay in the air. even after the moment the camera turned off and turned back on. that's all, no, no, this is it, he's hung up. now now the camera will turn on for him, and he will continue his flight, that is , it is impossible to say that somehow he was clearly attacked. that's why wait, who said that? sullivan, i think, said, well, it doesn't matter. in general, one of the talking heads. there was a wording practically facing russian fighter, practically facing. here you almost ran into. that is, he

collided in the city. and like, i don't know, something has to be an attack with something, as far as you can see on the video. once again it was bent, andrey vladimirovich said, from this we conclude what kind of collision this drone would make, look at the sea. so he is very strong, so he still continued the american one. so you want to tell us that this was wrong behavior our pilots. yes, yes, you see, andrey vladimirovich is satisfied, which is extremely rare when we are talking about some actions of our country, but now we will give andrei vladimirovich the opportunity to speak in his usual role. the fact is that the 10th anniversary meeting has ended. here are the military leaders of nato rammstein , which we call there was also a lot that was said. hmm andrei vladimirovich always explains to us what and when will be done for ukraine naturally. let's get a look. at

the tenth gathering of military sponsors ukraine which is traditionally called ramstein decided. what weapons should be given to kiev for a counteroffensive about readiness to provide the ukrainian army, leopard tanks were announced by spain and sweden the pentagon chief calculated that the allies managed to scrape together a coalition of states free of charge, supplying leopard tanks to ukraine continues to grow, nine countries have already pledged to provide more than 150 tanks. leopark, the number of countries providing air defense systems to kiev also continues to grow washington hawks believe that this is not enough and to reverse the situation at the front, kiev needs f-16 fighters, several senators at once demanded that the pentagon consider the possibility of supplying them to the u.s. press claims that the ukrainian pilots are already preparing management. the pilots came to the usa to train with the americans on a flight simulator, they were taught. how to fly

certain american aircraft? this is the first time that ukrainian pilots come to the united states for training soviet mig-29 aircraft, and already in april. but exactly how many fighters did not specify according to the press of all warsaw 28 such machines on the transfer of their moments to ukrainians, now slovakia also thinks it is a painfully tempting offer. she was made by the allies, and we were informed about the compensation. slovakia was supposed to get over the fighters. if they are transferred to ukraine from the united states and allies, 900 million dollars in the form of cash and military material. so andrey vladimirovich, do you have any additional clarifications on rammstein? well there is sites, but the most important thing that was done in rammstein is yeah, since all restrictions on the supply of missile

shells in terms of combat range have been lifted or what restrictions are simply in quantity first of all, there were certain restrictions in rammstein in equal in ramstein, a decision was made to really devastate everything warehouses now, and the second solution was to expedite delivery. and that means, accordingly, a rocket of artillery shells, first of all, that means, uh, it will be done to ukraine , as for, that means, uh hmm yes, a long-range missile 300 km this issue will be resolved. after march 30, these are separate conversations between the united states and ukraine, which means that. eh, most. the main thing is that an addition to the air defense system and additional systems will be delivered. rszo- one more moment. can i, as a former artistrest, be interested in what it means if you decide to devastate everything with a projectile . well, you need shells. from something you understand, but from what, that is, it will be additionally delivered and quite a lot exists. yes? we were told by ourselves, i

remind you, the end of march, this is ukrainian offensive. if now they only gathered in ramstein. i certainly believe in delivery times of less than two weeks, seriously, delivery times. she is an elementary from anywhere in europe and from a base in ramstein. and most importantly, with bass in poland, all this is delivered in 2 days. excuse me, yes, we worked out a little bit more precisely andreevich he. apparently he still has his insiders. they didn’t specify this, because andrei was still talking there, the end of march, the beginning of april, the edition of politics just today, a few hours ago, writes that the offensive is ukrainian, like americans. would like it to be on the t-shirt. and what is most interesting in this article is the politics, besides the maya , there are hardly any specific directions. u.s. officials are more focused on ukraine preparing for a major spring offensive

to retake territory, an offensive they expect to begin by may , u.s. officials say kiev has not yet decided on a strategy, but essentially has two options to push south through kherson into crimea or move east with your north position and then south, cutting off russian land bridge according to officials. the first option is unrealistic, since russia has strengthened the defenses on the eastern bank of the dnieper and ukraine does not have manpower for a successful landing operation against such forces, according to officials, the second option is more likely. so adrianovich before. this time. secondly, what i want to say and what was discussed in rammstein, was discussed completely in one specific plane. i can already say this today, it's about the fact that the concept was worked out in rammstein drawing uh, massive rocket and artillery strike on russian positions, where, uh, inos in the northern part and in the southern part, that's just the point.

yes, along the entire line. that is why now there is an active delivery of rocket shells, new , by the way, howitzers, mortars are being brought in. get mines, uh, even smarter waves have been delivered, planning bombs that can hit our business unit, so this is the most ukrainian projectile voice, like about which they wrote there is no need at all for this. well, first about the two blows that announced in politics. well, i understand that the fog of war plays, as it were, a paramount role in this matter. i just don't understand the wording. what bridge are they going to cut off from the north? uh yes, they mean, crimea north no i once again they will start uh and kupinsky in the south. that is, as i understand it, these are some phantom pains of the fourteenth year from the border to cut off to the donbass yes, well, as

you say, brad is, of course, complete. although really. yes, they simply write that based on the fact that some are, as it were, in the north of na north north wherever they go, back and forth. yes, they go to the north, here i am, here i am. i'm still reading now, then, of course. well, i must say that there are these arrows. e them, then one of them is really the arrows of the arrows. this is the second point. the first point is what andrei vladimirovich is talking about. according to andrei vladimirovich, shells of those guns , technicians, and equipment were bombarded. they didn’t fail with these shells, but about shell hunger. i agree. uh, i'm not here today. i would call it rather the economy of e shells, because they preparing for the attack. and therefore, they do not feel sorry for the people, and they give few shells to the front line. our guys count the number of shots. there are really few of them. but they simply

accumulate not only shells, they also accumulate equipment, because look. we know what equipment is already in ukraine. we do not see it anywhere. and this means that it accumulates in concentration sweets. we can not now destroy and not give her the opportunity. i wouldn’t say them, but i don’t know them, and in the public space there is a technique that we know what is on ukraine, but we are in the personal space. no, i understand, our intelligence sees it. look, here we are yesterday, if i'm not mistaken at night, yes, there was a massive blow to the slavic kramatorsk konstantinovka and then another to the sentry yar, but hmm, something that slipped through, yes, that in slavyansk it's more of a railway station. eh, it was said. yes, what do you remember, we showed the concentration around the bakhmut of their parts. well, it seems that this is a operative about what equipment is about shells. they have them, we are aware, secondly, they will continue to accumulate them and

here politics is more right than it is, but it is, you just say that not everything that we know is appropriate to understand, yes, then let's move on to the arrows. what do you want about the arrows? look at this here is the direction that is drawn here. yes, these are the red ones, or these red ones. yes? uh, and uh. hmm, given the distance between the arrows, these are actually different directions on earth , but here i am. you said more than once, yes, that a possible contour, a strike on donetsk in case they can secretly accumulate reserves, in general, since march last year, it seemed to me the most terrible picture of the world, and then they could do it, but now and now they have much less opportunities, but they were also able to secretly accumulate reserves in kharkov then in september. this is the worst thing that can await us, if through a carbon wave, then this is an attempt to enter the mriupol. this is a pointless blow. this is a purely

pr offensive, because there they will all end, uh, and in this sense, of course, vladimir, who regularly talks about this, speaks more than this arrow is right. there is no. it should be on the left bank of the dnieper , so the magician, melitopol berdyansk a. as for kherson well, they are in vain, there they draw tanks. yes, they do, and we have seen it. they are importing special equipment to the right bank to create temporary temporary crossings, by the way, good equipment western technology. here but she will not help them cross kherson across the dnieper from kherson yes, in kherson , kherson region, through the dnieper, she will not help them cross, therefore, yes, everything is fine. in short, we keep the same calm against the backdrop of dramatic forecasts. yes, one line. we are shown every day , we just need to see it. uh, how we are preparing for this, just from what you say

alexandrovich, one gets the impression that time has stopped working for us. and this, probably, is already a question not only as he said that next time flows down, stopped working for us andreevich time works for them. and the longer time passes, the more reserves for this offensive, the more fist they can accumulate there. is it right or not? here see answer. i believe that any evaluation of any analysis should come from. e of the ultimate goal, because the military science of tactics. it's a combat strategy, everything around this combat is all about securing. you started right with rammstein, but er rammstein, it is actually carried out meaningfully in only two formats. the first format is the definition of the strategy of what they are doing, how they support ukraine, and in fact, how they are at war with us, and the second. this is the provision of this strategy. here is the rammstein that you are talking about now about the eleventh, if they are wrong, this is a story about tactics, that is, uh, a story about how

to support, so those plans, uh, that were determined uh, in the format of the so-called offensive, you really need spawns, really starts. look here. uh, it was stated that ukraine is planning and wanting to isolate crimea, that is, to strike at the crimean. stool e, isolate the theater of military operations and for this go to some kind of springboard that allows these strikes to be delivered. uh, does ukraine have a goal, uh, to capture some large settlements, it doesn't matter if donetsk is melitopol or uh, mariupol i think not. i doubt they are preparing for urban battles. and that in this sense there is a goal to capture some large city, get bogged down in urban battles, but in a political sense, if you think, of course, it makes sense. there is, of course, and in this sense, now we are really at the breakthrough that ukraine wants or does not want, but

is simply obliged to take, because it is placed in these conditions, when this breakthrough is made and, uh, what we are in state of maneuver defense. this is right because this breakthrough allows you to first beat off this offensive. then it is possible to go or not go to the counter offensive, but the most important thing is not to give the opportunity. implement these plans from this point of view. well , you know how it ends. yes, it will end with an offensive attempt, thus another grinding, but already along the entire front line, which means the entire line of hostilities . e ukrainian forces. after that , certain excisions will come and then the next rammstein or pump up again? uh new. e, means means of warfare action or change strategy? why did i ask about the political moment, because we stumbled upon a statement here, too, quite recently. john bolton, where he rebukes the current white house. well, it’s bad that he is afraid of the victory of ukraine and does not want the victory of ukraine in general, such a strange conclusion

from a political point of view. let's listen to bolton. successful blackmailing moscow highlights washington's inability to set clear goals and strategize to achieve them biden wants russia to lose, but it looks like afraid that ukraine will really win victor once. as you say, this is not enough political will, bolt tells us. give me more, comrades, there are two points. uh, john bolton is one of the most hawkish hawks in the american foreign policy establishment, and he criticizes almost any administration, including his former boss, donald trump, for being too much . to be honest, i didn’t quite understand what he calls successful blackmail. i'm counting now. what is it? the fact is that there are no specifics, e he says, well, i started since he criticizes everyone. but if, for example, the rational grain is in what it says here, in what it consists, indeed, as i have already repeatedly. say i'm repeating myself. i practically repeat it, including speaking. uh-huh yes, and

bolton quotes. because it's just it's just, unfortunately, the reality is no better. so the reality is, the reality is that the united states is using this conflict to inflict damage, they really want russia to lose, they don’t even hide it, and a number of american e politicians. uh, representatives of the foreign policy establishment. they talk about it pleasantly enough and in order to inflict a defeat on russia, but we need a long conflict, a protracted war, so some kind of swift victory of ukraine a. it is, firstly, rather complicated in terms of strategy, but on the other hand. it is not beneficial to the united states with the united states. it is beneficial that this conflict continued and continued as the result of this protracted conflict. all the same , russia will be defeated, what's the difference. for what cut the tail into pieces? of course, if there is ukraine inflicting such blows, as

a result of which russia is forced to withdraw one way or another. this conflict on some conditions, then the weakening of russia after that stops, because all these countries , from serbia to turkey to india and others, they say, then to the west, all russia left the conflict of reasons, uh, to impose new sanctions. the reason restricts russia no longer, the europeans will continue the sanctions regime, but here is the strange third world country of the global south of the country of southeast asia in latin america, they will no longer agree to go in this format. the americans need to rally the world community against russia, and for this they need a protracted conflict with them. it's beneficial. besides, if russia gets out of this conflict, it will stop spending huge funds, uh, which go exclusively to the ukrainian direction, this will make russia that the economy, in general, will notice its weakening to the americans. it is not profitable, but the ukrainians. how many ukrainians will die in a protracted conflict, the americans

are not at all interested in them at all ukrainians are really absolutely cannon-ball here. let the continuation of this your thesis that the ukrainians let it go for meat for them, and here we looked at how many ukrainian military have actually been trained and will be trained by the end of the year in various western countries, be it germany or some other - then countries. here, of course, we are talking not about hundreds, but thousands, maybe even tens of thousands, but in accordance, if you just look at the total size of the army , it’s like the other day an old fascist and concurrently, the head of european diplomacy, josel, said that by the end of the year the european union will train more than 11,000 ukrainian soldiers. and this, according to him, is not the limit. our mission is to train more than 11,000 people by the end of march and 30,000 by the end of the year in germany, a couple of days ago, the ukrainian military reported that they were trained on the use of the promised tanks, the number of crews, and the truth is, they did not specify the first time we are doing it with them. then they repeat themselves, and

we check everything, like at school. true, russian military correspondents note that they themselves nato instructions hardly have any experience in using new weapons in intense combat. many have only been involved in local conflicts and have little idea of ​​how to fight outside the city limits. western countries have not taken part in high-intensity conflicts since the vietnam war, and in some cases, since the second world war, the result is natural, people are trained according to the patterns of the war in iraq, syria and afghanistan, the experience of military operations against gangs in the middle east and africa is poorly applicable to the realities of the ukrainian conflict evgeny petrovich well, they will teach. they are as many as 30,000 by the end of the year in total, the ukrainian army on the court called different numbers 600-700-800 thousand, as far as 30,000 are even trained, let's assume that they are well trained. although here, too, there are fair doubts that can affect something, you know. can you tell me rammstein first, too , please, yes, uh, i'm not

impressed with all these results of these rammsteins, here, the previous one or before the previous one was a tank one, what is it? past - it's kind of like airplane should be ramstein did not make any decisions this time, the next ramstein artillery, communications artillery ramstein, but the truth was that reznikov also requested a submarine there, she even sang a song there. well, here the words sounded, they are preparing to deliver a massive artillery strike. what is a massive artillery strike during the second world war of the great patriotic war, as we call it, there was a concentration of several hundred of 400 to 500 barrels per kilometer per kilometer of the front? wait war, artillery, artillery, artillery, she's not very strong has changed, highmors, 30 highmas installations, which

they delivered, delivered 130-155 mm, and 75 152 mm, 230 artillery pieces to put this is a little 67 tanks - these are two battalions. andrey vladimirovich i could tell about the folds of transnistria there. what andrei vladimirovich said came out, this is generally, of course, not very good. well, okay, that's not the topic of today, as far as learning is concerned. so you understand, uh, when i hear that, for example, the americans , the british, are teaching ukrainians by the method of partisan struggle, i immediately have a question. a where are they anyway? well, they fought where the english american partisans are now the americans,

they say we have the greatest mighty equipped with an experienced trained army in the world at this moment the taliban applaud loudly, and i have a question. and where the americans fought after vietnam, here on the ground they really fought in iraq and not abbasora to baghdad, they walked 250 km through the desert for a month, with virtually no resistance. they took baghdad without a single shot, having bought the republican guard, there were no losses at all, that is, all the skill of the americans is to bomb fuh and dust everything on earth by carpet bombing. and after that, hoist your flag, so do not underestimate the opponents of the ukrainians. by the way, the ukrainians are at war, because we are at war with ourselves. they fight very well. you are now talking more about the fact that the empire should not be evaluated. there is no need to overestimate. but

it is not necessary to overestimate this preparation, and i have always been an adversary. uh, these accelerated courses, when they say that you can train on the patriot there in 2 months. i remember how we trained, so to speak, on the s-300 uh, normal courses of semi-annual gluteal courses, in order to train to retrain a ukrainian pilot there on the f-16 in two months, here are the ukrainian pilots having graduated from the cadets. uh, having poured 3 hours there on the uh, soviet plane. there he says for a moment-29. oh, this is nonsense, she is f-16. i need 2 weeks there, and i will calmly sit down and fly and i will say so. e to conduct air battles with russian pilots and all these accelerated courses. here are the british 3 months. there's someone else 2 months to object all this. andrey vladimirovich no cadets. one more thing that i didn't say about it. uh, what was agreed

for rammstein already is the consent. well, i didn't want to have to say about it. this consent to the formation of the so-called volunteer crew. this is what was what was left of the polish, these are those who are part of the system of nato countries, that is, nato agreed to provide on its own, i do not understand what consent is, i just would say so. this is not the same as consent. it was. it was a blessing there was no objection. so no objection, and before that they were objecting objections. yes, now 26 crews for leopards are ready. so imported imports. yes, this process is underway, you understand, and this is a serious process, and not from the cadets we are talking about 20 people retraining pilots. now it will not be cadets. these are combat pilots, ukrainian. what difference does it make a person you figure 20 the plane proves that the main thing is one

of the main problems on our part. this is not an overestimation of the enemy. namely, underestimation is better to make a mistake now in the other direction to talk about what does not matter 20 so many pilots, so many crews, so many leopards. it is very dangerous. we already have such lessons, difficult, rather bloody lessons, very difficult, and to say that it is not important to overestimate the enemy. now today, in my opinion, this is not worth the last what is the military consequences of their actions. we see the military consequences of other guests also hooked up. let me try to summarize. just wait, we can also generalize. and why do i agree with victor not on the topic that was studied now, and which have been studied before. eh, if you look at separately taken ramstein, tenth, ninth, eighth, it doesn't matter, then the

whole picture does not add up. well, there are some strange decisions. let's go there, so many guns, so many shells. and if you take it that's just the picture is emerging, the next yes ukraine is being prepared for a protracted war. it doesn't matter how much they teach, because they do it all the time. this is a stream. this is the flow of weapons. this is the flow of knowledge, the flow of resources, which is coming. you can laugh that there they trained 20 crew or 21, but this is strange, but the plan is in the intention of hmm preparing ukraine for a protracted war. and how does this plan fit into the intention of preparing for some kind of swift counter-offensive, which, it seems, should put an end to it, they call it a little at the same time. in my opinion , the end of the russian aggressor contradicts each other, of course , it will not be allowed, and they understand this very well. why, if you are preparing for a protracted

conflict, then build defensive fortifications, there, i do not know, but do not go at all, if you keep the defense all the time. and uh, you scoop up water in the trenches there, as it happens now in the spring, then this is despondency, dullness and depression, but in order to continue to fight, well, to transfer the spirit, yes, let's vladimirovich try to generalize, because we don’t have uh , understanding sedative. eh, theses are not reassuring, that is. well, uh, so you know, basically, it's kind of like there's some part of the truth on each side . well, there was absolute truth on our part, but not all kazakov, as always, is silent did not say. yes, but on the other hand, it’s impossible, please, yes, almost true, but i can say one thing, that, to be honest, there is no shell hunger there. yes, they are all good. unfortunately, yes, there are problems with shells. no, they really save money. not only have they disappeared, in general, er, shelling with hummers. that

is, it was not. we don't have a flight in the hummers for a few weeks. it's not because they decided. here i disagree a little, probably, but with the opinion. the number of shells is one hummer with e, arriving at the location worth hundreds of shells, which are in area. let's be honest. we often have in the army. how so that's 3,000 shells. we worked on the area, which means that the entire command post was destroyed, and then a bird takes off, looks at the command post. everything is fine. they dug in well. they are sitting. there also, sometimes these 3,000 shells play a smaller role than one, but they definitely don't arrive. they to save saves for something big. we can only guess further. eh, well, according to the information that i have with that sides. it is quite extensive for me, after all , i myself come from the city of zaporozhye. and this city, by the way, is an interesting point, again, this city has the status of a city of front-line active hostilities. uh, the kiev side transferred to the city of possible hostilities

. that is, they do not consider our arrival. yes, that is, they lowered his status, which means they have plans, as it were, of an offensive. yes , they are the protection of this city on the inside. the calculator is now written in the hut in the ministry of internal affairs and in other punitive structures of zelensky exactly like that, that is, the status of the city was reduced danger. why would there be such plans if they just sat waiting for us about the defense, their defense is now built, in fact, they are digging in. they dug in very well and they are digging in further, and including engineering equipment, they are also provided, in addition to the usual construction, as such, if we are talking about forcing, water barriers. i agree with alexander that kherson well, it's a disastrous thing, where to go to do something? well, it's unclear. yes, going there in the direction of the crimea is such a fantasy, you know, moreover, they don’t do anything overlap. well, quite a lot of resources should be thrown there, but i want to remind e, we probably already forgot, but more than 40 armored vehicles that were transferred last year. they have not been used anywhere. they

were not sunk. that is, well, how it will be for some reason to walk along the dnieper river. i just don’t know what kind of excursions you do there, plus, respectively, self-propelled, eh. horse crossings, yes, which still accelerate the speed is very immediate for a pontoon. that is, it is not just to build a bridge. and this is the bridge which is still sailing across the dnieper, all this is also present, it is clear that i see this , first of all, from the point of view of forcing the dnieper and capturing the zaporizhzhya 1 power plant. well, at least, this logic seems to me, uh, obvious, because it was carried out several times. uh, well, that is, more precisely, seven or eight times exercises were carried out in the upper beat and the dnieper, that is , they left the dnieper progress in zaporozhye where, according to the legend of the exercise, they crossed the dnieper and captured large objects of man-made origin , which is a nuclear power plant, but if we let's look at what has already been transferred or is being transferred clearly, there are bridge layers, of course, there is engineering equipment for demining. that is to say, they will advance, they will not be their own wives. yes, there is a similar way to clean up and here is another

important point - this is fvd, drones, which are actually a lot from that side, but they don’t fly to us. what is fr well, in short, these are red drones drones, yes, with extremely high accuracy of destruction, which can carry there from a kilogram there to five and a half , relatively speaking, different types of explosives. that there is just what we see, well, conditionally like our lancets. yes, when it arrives and destroys any equipment, according to the information we have, they have thousands of such drones, that is, they have accumulated them, they do not use them. now look at the high-precision hummers high-precision. uh, the same f2 drones. yes, so it will be used for something massive and exactly hitting the wrong area. and just like yesterday it was er, well, so loud enough. reconnaissance in force in our zaporizhia direction, yes, in the pologovsky district, and, uh, that they lost over 40 there militants, and at least 8 pieces of heavy equipment, but they didn’t just take them and, well, as it were, okay, in general, you see,

you are dying. no, at first they worked out aviation, again about the reaction. we told you, i told you. yes, aviation already. they work on our positions after this aviation, they worked out from the mlrs, well, multiple launch rocket systems, but it’s the grad, that is , not the hammer, that’s just with you in terms of squares. and after that, armored vehicles with infantry went. that is, they work out scenarios, tried to feel and they are preparing, including tanks yes, that’s right , tanks and other boxes there bmps , it would be interesting to know this is intelligence. fight they have what assessment the result of it received, if you say they had. so they tried the techniques lost, four dozen people. here they are, as you can see. here it would hurt them to climb there. this success is fortunate. so you need to try further or listen to this in general asses, most likely, they did not understand that what they did not see with their eyes, but the physical ones stuck in here. it hurts, it means in other places definitely still in our team they know

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or order on our website lemax. .ru where everything becomes clear, and we continue. let's if the plot is ready for us right away let's look at artyomovsk there, in general, i can say that it is still completely incomprehensible when this will all end, because we seem to continue moving forward, but the enemy is simply driving additional reserves there in an endless stream. this is the hottest point on the planet earth wednesday morning, our military announced that they had taken control of the village of zaliznyanskoye. this is 15 km northwest of artyomovsk, ukrainian bloggers report fierce battles, for the village of khromovo on the western outskirts of the city, while the road to khromov is the last major route along which ukrainian troops in artyomovsk received supplies already under the control of russian troops,

that is, there are no safe ways to access bakhmut, everything is shot through, but they are used the road that led us to slavyansk was broken. you can store warehouses so that you can say that bakhmut is still holding on so that the next three large cities remain at the front. they became a line front, the deplorable situation, artyomovsk, did not embarrass the president of the terrorist zelensky, he ordered not only to hold the city, but also threw additional forces there. this decision was made at the stakes meeting last tuesday. yes, these ukrainians are strong, millions of our people show such courage that there is not a single corner in the world where they have not heard about the strength of ukraine in the western press. they are already working out a new training manual together, pompously, arguing that even if artyomovsk bakhmut falls, the ukrainians will still be heroines, the russians are probably the least can afford to lose the city, the ukrainians have already been given to understand that they can leave the city

and this will not affect the course of the war in any way. if the russians cannot take bakhmud, they will lose one of their possible achievements in a new offensive. this will point to their real problems. you expect the situation to develop in the near future. i think that it is wrong to consider the history of artyomovsk as some kind of local one. here we are now talking about some plans for the strategy of tactics and you need to understand that both ours and the enemy’s attitude towards artyomovsk are not to the fact that we just have to take some settlement and calm down. i think that their task now is to drag out the story with artyomovsk to their so-called offensive, which we said to hold out to give an opportunity, or we break through and go to stretch. well, there are different options to form from the side of the hour in a fierce pincers, uh, about which the same prigozhin spoke, uh, and uh,

in this way to awaken the situation to concentrate our forces on hitting at certain points from the other side. well, uh, having spent here and the reconnaissance of the battle on which you they spoke and, accordingly, cheering up the entire front line, so now this is that spring , artyomovsk is a spring that is compressed during these local hostilities and it will straighten out when the entire front line lives, and how interesting about our interesting ones. what is our interest in what would step for shoigu say, uh, liberate the donbass , respectively, yes, fr is ahead now, uh, kramators, ahead, slavyansk, that's all our interest. this releases my relationship with those risks, about which you said and the forces of the enemy. if you consider these risks, they they are trying to bring as much of our strength as possible to artyomovskaya so that we can tie there, longer, they concentrate then. sorry. maybe this is a stupid question.

doesn't it make sense to accelerate in artyomovsk , putting as much strength as possible so that they don't have this lure there, as you understand, accelerate accelerate, you really need to take it. our task is to minimize losses. it has been standing for a year already, so to go on such a frontal assault, throws it there, really regardless of the losses. it is possible to take in theory. it's possible? of course, you can attract there, uh, bomb strategic aviation there. in the dust to smithereens, but uh , it makes no special sense, because wagner works well, uh. e flanks, from my point of view , are covered by what they plan in clock yar to strike there at the joint between e, the ministry of defense and the varr. well, again, it is theoretically possible, but i think that ours also know about this, and, uh, that's it. it's covered there, so i think that uh, sooner or later it's better,

of course, sooner, but i think that a few weeks still uh, we'll take victor as for strategic response. there is a reason why sheep. uh, quite little used, including in this direction, we were shot down just a few days ago. this is not a strategic reaction was there drying. yes , our russian, and they have a system right there. and this is one of the reasons why the system of your good cost is limited at all there and one of the factors that led to problems. at the very beginning of everything, this was an underestimation, but for all enemy air defense, which acted very effectively. unfortunately, therefore, this is one of the reasons. why not not because e the fact is that she is now bakhmut herself artyomovsk he is practically. he already lives there, few people at all from those who eat there, there were thousands of people before uh, battle. now there are already very few people left. frankly speaking, both and and the city is practically, basically, destroyed heard in your life. yes, the senior aviation in chechnya was used

much more, because there was no air defense there, that is, you agree you don’t feel sorry for anyone . i'm not talking about whom it's a pity if we, if russia started from its own. this speaks of that she was ready for a certain amount of a significant number of victims, on the other hand. well, to a certain amount with a certain rule, that means alexander. you want to say that russia did not feel sorry for the people in grozny. but it’s a pity for the people who remained to be compared not with afghanistan, not with chiche- i ’m talking about today that there were special military operations. exhibited strict rules and we observe these rules mirny do not see, you must agree that comparing the really yeltsin russia of the times of the first chechen company is absolutely i do not agree that the russian leadership intends to save lives. now i am not talking about what is right and wrong, i absolutely do not agree that the russian leadership, in order to save the lives of several thousand remaining people in bakhmu-in artyomovsk, is ready

to sacrifice hundreds and hundreds of lives of russian soldiers. no, this is a strategy to save the lives of russian soldiers, yes, russia does not want and does not want to live and is not going to participate in some kind of genocidal in this dispute, your forecast. here is further, that in the near future, the fact is that there is another question on the donbass. uh, it would be interesting if someone answered it, and russia takes it. artyom directs further only there the slavic ones will take the process faster. for many months, when we get there, all these territories will be shot through by the same missiles and shells; these military operations can continue for months and years. what is the future strategy of russia to protect the donbass, the president spoke about it, he does not say that we will move forward. we have to they couldn’t shoot these weapons so that they didn’t reach the population, but they couldn’t

prevent the frequent attacks on donetsk , how many years will it take us to turn away from repeating the past. well, let's alexander yuryevich then, answer like this about, uh, artyomovsky or according to their bang. so i also began to call it there, no longer translated. well, actually, yes, bahmud in russian. here we have minutes left in this block, so you will be here now? i somehow already said this in this studio, i want to repeat it again to the question. that about what will happen then here with us there was a known operation, what they talked about, right? what victories are dangerous, yes, which led us to enter the operational space. then even our enemies talked about the concept, like a poppy flower. here it will be a bakhmut flower, because you have taken it. eh, never mind. we will take the city itself, or we will take or we will take it into the ring from here. we get. really. it is even drawn here, but even more so because it is even further south. e dzerzhinsk, that

is, in fact, we are going to operational colds. there are no cities other than the private self. only well the steppe is actually some height. this is a significant advance, in general, in the entire company. yes, the enemy is not going to provide such an opportunity there, but i agree. e that there is both a military meaning and a political symbolic meaning. well , now it seems to me that for the most part it is military so far, right? because the economist magazines, he essentially says something similar to what she sounded, that artyomovsk is the point around which they are trying to tie us down in every possible way in order to concentrate forces and prepare for a big offensive. instead of in order to throw significant reserves into the bakhmut to save the city, which is of much greater symbolic than military significance for falsely sending troops abroad to train new equipment. soon almost a third

of the ukrainian army will have standard equipment. nato vanya valich has a certain logic in this. well, of course there is , you need to understand that there are still the interests of the zaluzhny and zelensky, so the zaluzhny wants to be a winner, not a keeper. yes, my army. there in the same artyomovsk, but zelensky needs image of a held city. well, in principle , what we once talked about in the program, that is, he was, he falls out of the trip. you see, volodya was less and less not allowed to speak here, he was not so great here, they did not reward him with something, and he is like a person who is dependent, firstly in terms of his pride. yes, and such greed, plus they also understand that inflation is very high. yes, as if from the moment of the peak, he acted everywhere there as a king, met there, i don’t know, with the queen. yes there with she met performed in all parliaments, and now even on the island they are not allowed to speak, therefore, last year there are two moments. uh, the interests are laid down, they understand that he is playing for the long haul, that, most likely, he can be brought to power instead of zelensky, and

zelensky needs a couple of mogs here and now, that is, therefore. well, you know what moment, i would still take into account all these laws of the place and so on, but about the fog of war. yes, and stuffing that go. that is, they tell us that everything will not be ready. there until the end of april. the beginning of may is definitely nothing won't start. yes, when they say so, for some reason i am sure that it will begin earlier , understandably from the point of view of symbolism. they better by the ninth of may, but pour everything in the blood. yes , and so that there would be more grief of suffering, and again discredit our some kind of holiday, but from the point of view of them, of course, it is strange and some conclusions. this was a bbc calculation, as far as i remember, they wrote, it means that the russians a for every 100 m, and the ukrainian occupied territory is paid. life there and some number of soldiers. yes in general calculated taking into account the area of ​​the territory that was liberated. in general, our losses should be about 167 billion people there, in my opinion. that is, the math is even worse than yours, but yes.

yes, i can be taken by mathematical experts yes bbc but on the other hand, it seems to me even if we understand that such things are underestimated, here, i said exactly what they did. throwing kiwi for 3 days is impossible. none of our people none of our military commanders there , anyone, said kiwi in 3 days, but this meme is kiev in 3 days. he he started from the side, as if our statement. pay attention stop or else. i think that colleagues should stop already. what do you say? let's, yeah, take a little break. let's continue in a couple of minutes. any purchases for 10 months to be in the image resides the artist from the beginning to

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we continue to move on and now a little bit to another topic like this. obviously more peaceful but also hot, eh, but also hot do you think hot? let's just say it's an initiative. i would interpret it in this way, aimed at restoring justice, because this question is how it turns out that people openly oppose our country. in some cases, they are simply directly at war. yes, against our country, they continue to earn money in our country. here is the initiative - this is the one we are talking about now, it is no longer the new crimean one, but it is not uh, haven't gotten there yet. this is the scale that seems to be wanted by those people who believe that this situation is unfair. you have already guessed this, probably, we are talking about the nationalization of property and all sorts of not good comrades. here in crimea, this issue is especially important, because there is a lot of such property there, including, well, as sergey aksyonov, the head of

crimea, explained some time ago. e. apparently, the matter somehow moved the dead point. let's take a look, our first one. part of the property of ukrainian oligarchs, as told sergei aksyonov will remain in the ownership of crimea last week, the head of the region admitted that the most difficult decision to include an object in the list of nationalized objects is made by the anti-terrorist commission, which includes all law enforcement agencies and others. that is, we are discussing everything in detail, so the enemies of russia on the territory of the russian crimea will not earn money without options. even the parliament of crimea decided to nationalize about 700 objects a month ago, then they were included in the list of dispossessed the richest oligarchies of ukraine guys akhmetov igor kolomoisky sergey taruta and others with their property in yalta and the saturn imax cinema said goodbye to the former prime minister , the property of crimea passed to the reeds. burunsky iron ore plant assets of more than

10 ukrainian banks are called refrigeration equipment in krasnoperekopsk and the property of the football club dynamo kiev for the emotions of a luxurious penthouse presidency. zelensky's terrorists, located in livadia, not far from yalta, want to transfer an apartment to low-income or large families sharply spoke the head of the crimea about all those who support the apu. they need to close all business opportunities in crimea. i think that all people who oppose the country . it is necessary to legally nullify the fact that there should not be business here. this is obvious. this should be accepted at the federal level by the enemies of the country, who finance military operations against us against the civilian population, to give money here, in my opinion, it is immoral. so well, and now to our conversation on the phone from the crimea is connected head of the republic sergey aksyonov sergey ivanovich good afternoon. good afternoon. hello. hello. yes, firstly, let me congratulate you on the upcoming holiday of the eighteenth on saturday we will

celebrate the next anniversary of the reunification of crimea with russia. you can tell, what mood, and the crimeans will not spoil our holiday at all. what do you think, well, firstly, i also want to congratulate all the citizens of the russian federation well, and thank everyone for their support. actually. so that it was in the fourteenth year such a drive was the spirit that consolidated us all. in this case , it was clear that the decision that our president made was a just cause . thanks to vladimir vladimirovich for his decisiveness for his position there, if, of course, no one would have made such decisions. and here is the unanimous support of all russians. believe us, it gave us strength and energized. and here i want to say a word of gratitude for everything that has been done over these 9 years, but in general i can say that now we have. that is, the results of sociology there publish, but they regularly conduct, including in our country the number of people who would vote if today such a referendum was the same, if not more, that is, there, well, that is also, there is more than 95 or ninety-six percent of 100 % of respondents who speak today

would not hesitate to vote. uh, for the return of crimea to their historical homeland , that is, the main question is that people believe in russia , people know that it was fair, people know that all this was not for material things. in this case, some questions. it was purely. here is such a well, spiritual component, you know, as at the call of the heart at the behest of the soul, that is, therefore, there was such a drive, but today, in fact, the same good mood, the vast majority, 90% of crimeans support the conduct, and military operations . there, the vast majority, more than 90% of crimeans trust our leader vladimir vladimirovich. that is, this is all the result. that is , in this case, joint work with the federal executive authorities. that is, as it were, that people know that they are needed in country that they are valued and not valued, and they will fight for them. interests will fight, they will defend them, therefore, here are friends. thank you for being together. we are glad that we have been living there quietly for 9 years in our homeland without this shit that happens there nearby abroad, so thank god that everything turned out this way. fine. so sergei ivanovich

then. let's get on with our topic. we have a couple of questions. e for your suggestions. so, first of all, can you explain why you say that the most difficult part of implementing your, uh, initiatives is compiling a list of objects that should be nationalized. and what is not difficult, justice simply has to be there in this case. you understand that, first of all, we are many ukrainian e-owners who take a negative stance towards russia as a whole. that is, how would they support the armed forces of ukraine there, and so on. they are, well, trying to look for partners on the territory of our country. here, in our place, often, that is , processes begin, as it were, when well, these besides, we own it for a year, we have shares there, we agreed with each other. and there, someone gave money to someone there, well, the money was not spent there, and so on, but we, in fact, delve into every situation, so that yes, if there were bona fide transactions, then so that the russian owners would not suffer, and secondly, so that it is just an objectively verified fair decision, in

principle, this is the main thing, so there will definitely be no unfair decisions. well, if something has already been discovered. the enemy, well, if the enemy does not surrender, then you yourself know what they are doing to him. and you, and you provide for the possibility of e attempts to challenge this in court on their part. does everyone have a court to apply the practice already laid down here, thanks to our colleagues, the federal government and the legislature , all the laws have been adopted there, so nothing shines for them, that is, in this case, the practice of nationalization back in 2014 in the country is completely up to the supreme court passed. uh, so, well, who wants there dope breaks? well , let it serve well, then another question is also a legislative one like this character. here you propose to nullify your expression, uh, people who oppose russia. how is it in practice? look is what you see. fine. well, how? well, here, we said that if a person, well, in this case, we have isolated cases, that is , since i say it again, we have an overwhelming absolute majority, crimeans. there, for russia , for the leader, for their own, and so on. that is, as it were,

therefore, in isolated cases. here i am , they don’t stand up for the russian anthem, if a person doesn’t get up, uh, many state, although we are obliged to hypno states out of respect to lag behind. even if he plays with us, then i'm sorry, this is not called what a spit is a person shows. i am an open enemy. i don't respect this country and so on. then a question. why do we need him here? explain no, wait. he is sergei valeryevich, so i still didn’t understand a little. you are that person. here, for example, the episode that was recently in kaluga yes, you are depriving citizenship for this act, but not a good one, but he remains to live in russia or something, we should send him to prison and put him in jail that's it and why for what? well and for what? here he, therefore, will work for another country to carry out subversive tasks. that is, we deliberately leave the parasite inside to ask for, that is, which will shit there in all directions. well, the meaning of which the whole world has already objected for a long time. it's black and white there, it's all colorful here. here, here it is clear, the situation is black and

white. well, here's the picture well, sergey valeryevich, we won't delay you any longer , you have a lot to do. and we have some parasites are already eager to discuss your proposals. right by their cheeks glow. thank you very much. once again everything is fine. this is fine. i'm ready for all of them. believe it in open meeting the same. yes? then we'll see how it all goes for us. thank you sergey, everything, but in the face the head of the republic of crimea was on the air with us on the phone boris borisovich well , excuse me for the parasites, dear friend. well, i heard that you started to puff even more, uh, the second question is a problem. with sergei valeryevich , what do you want to answer now about the nationalization of property or property or these concepts of people? let's agree with our enemy. i don’t agree, for example, the government constantly says, but there are two problems, the constitution does not command happiness, in my opinion, happiness is a witch. unfortunately for sergei valeryevich, to deprive the citizens of russia of citizenship and property, moreover, property.

she does not order to decide not only the citizens of russia , but in general, each article 35 of the constitution has a text. yes? uh-huh, i opened it on purpose . there literally following is called right. we are property, and then look no one can be. yes, part two , everyone has the right to own property. as a lawyer, i’m telling you that in the constitution, if it’s for citizens of russia, it’s citizens, and if for any country your many acquaintances, aren’t there those who have now lost their own abroad for a second, everyone has the right to own property, each russian and ukrainian. in the sense of russia, i understand. but this is the most important thing, no one can be deprived of his property. otherwise, as a court decision. forcible alienation of property to state needs nationalization. so it can be done only on the condition of prior and equivalent compensation, which says that from here in it proposes to do it without a trial. and

now further therefore nothing to invent. no need. so people are deprived of property, by court order. this is called confiscation in those cases or violated the law and this is the practice. he talks about her, therefore, if this person, let's say, did not stand up at the anthem or does something else. not a question initiate a criminal case. yes, you dumped everything in a pile of money. he says, that he should be stripped of his citizenship. go port, because it's forbidden to sit people for 20 years that's all boris means, i understand, comrades aksyonov read the constitution of russia good documents. yes, it always screams. i'm starting to get headaches. and bogdana anatolyevich i think that you will support aksyonov's initiative , moreover, suggest somehow aggravating it. well it's high or second. yes, any to any no

, i completely. i think that the vast majority of people will fully support aksyonov's initiative. just a question because its felt like people are right, but especially when reading the comments. here is the meeting place in your telegram channel. so there, er, not only such measures were proposed there. it's still there to find out, hot just one why only a year after its own and in the ninth year after the annexation of crimea to this initiative. well, it was not known that this cinema was a lieutenant, not involved in corruption schemes, or there was someone else poroshenko there with his confectionery factory, and so on joe started his own. and there before the minsk the processes were already buried by the west and ukraine was buried, they still hoped to normalize relations, they didn’t resort to extreme measures here, in general, well , it’s clear why this didn’t happen for 9 years , i absolutely agree, but as for everything else, uh, you see. borisovich in front of you is a person specifically i who made a proposal to amend the text of the constitution of the russian federation in the xx-xxi vedas. the constitution can also be changed the first second chapter fuck there putin forbade

changing it, that's why they banned it now. let's do it and putin never changes his mind. of course, of course, it doesn't change. but if it is necessary, he can understand the right decision regarding these proposals, please, regarding the proposals. and let's rely on, then not only on the constitution, but also on world law, the united states easily deprived its citizens of citizenship. like, for example, the property of the famous chess player fischer who just went to yugoslavia and played with the spassky constitution rubbish. and we have a good moment. no, they have a wonderful constitution, especially the right to weapon. so i support with both hands and now we will go to another. nevermind. yes, uh, then uh, you'll excuse me, but under what law is this already here hmm confiscated international assets under what law uh, american troops are in law, but just about how they do it, here are our neighbors. yes, because there is a process, i will simply give criminal

legislation in the states. come on, come on, i will formulate a decision, look there. ah. forgive me here. i always say that cannot be generalized. and there behold the faces of many to speak. well, now, probably, i’m still right, a very large number of our fellow citizens, but there is a feeling that we are really a little bit inconsistent in our actions, and by action i mean the protection of the state’s own interests. so, if a person , that's why everything flared up, infuriates cheese, boron, in kostroma there is some kind of deputy during the meeting no, they watched putin's message. he did not get up, during the execution of them. here the whole hall stood up, and he sits, well, there later he said something that he had been there during training, which means, uh, the muscles clogged there. well , here you are, as a jock should understand this. in general, i couldn't. it was hard for him to become. and so it began. here is the story to unwind, that

is, here is a man deputy. engaged in some kind of official state work publicly shows his contempt for the state for which he should work. why the hell do we need such a deputy, or is there an official, and then aksyonov's initiative appears. this man must be punished he offers us to deprive of citizenship to deport, maybe you are superfluous, but keep this person to continue to keep at this job. definitely not necessary or am i wrong? let's dmitry vladimirovich in general, a deputy is a people's choice. now i'm just an example of not a deputy, a lawyer, a tv presenter who shows in society there should be a consensus on basic prices, there should be such a consensus we had during the great patriotic war. this helped us win, and now there should also be a consensus on the base prices, which is difficult, because your the opponent will say, and they will be right in the constitution to talk about such things

separately well, but this is what kind of content will be swept to be when the country is fighting, hostile actions are unacceptable, and therefore, of course, citizens need to. well , take some measures can be varied. i don’t see any problem here at all, because, as i have repeatedly said in the current criminal code , there are enough articles in the administrative code to resolve all issues in order to bring to justice for confiscation of property, by the way, for the arrest of property. that is, what aksyonov says as a politician is somewhat emotionally legislator. maybe now as it should be, as it should be for a lawyer, and in general, you need to understand here. and that the law does not stand still. when we had privatization, no one bothered with the law at all. and now another requirement of nationalization legislation in our country is really not very developed. but it is also like a production process. there is a political setting, there is the will of the people. we ask the legislator. options. we need then the legislator, after a while , gives us a good product. and you say so,

from your professional point of view, from the point of view of a specialist, it is necessary to introduce some changes in the legislation today. i will say so softly the legislation on nationalization, as i have already said, it is really not very developed in our country. our legislation was under the protection of property rights. there is a clear bias here. there is probably no obvious bias, almost in no other part of the world, and nationalization legislation is needed now develop, but as for the confiscation of the arrest, this can already be done now, you can still 5 kopecks. of course, to these arguments, because we did not do this at the same time . our neighbors. ukraine has been doing this for a long time, by the way, one of the arguments cannot be bought. we have to answer somehow. what are we talking about, how they did it in ukraine, it means that the verkhovna rada adopted a law on the confiscation of russian property in august last year. terrorist president zelensky signed this law on the confiscation and almost 1,000 objects of the russian property in ukraine, the state left in fact the seizure of russian assets was already in progress. by that

time, the kiwi was in full swing. tail, personally managed to seize property for 765 million dollars in particular. back in may, the national security and defense council of ukraine forcibly seized the property of sberbank and the property of the web, with the adoption of the law, things went faster in february, the assets of russian businessman oleg deripaska were nationalized for $ 273 million. we are talking about the nikolaev alumina plant and several mining companies as well enterprises for the production of titanium were nationalized in the amount of 54. with more than a million dollars, violetta vladimirovna here i will ask with the usual. this fragment needs to be spelled out in the law, and so on and so forth, but when people on the other side have been doing this for a long time and fruitfully, without thinking about the interests of our citizens, then, probably, we too should somehow be. yes, look at everything in fact, as already mentioned and repeatedly all the mechanisms. we have here. i agree

with my colleague, all mechanisms are already spelled out, when you say the word compensation confiscation, forget about this word. in fact, i don't want a confiscation. forget it, there is a word about him requisition. wait for difficult words, in general, no one talks about confiscation, just nationalization, and the whole point is that nationalization can occur in two forms. it can occur as a confiscation. i've heard it here three times already. the word is confiscation. here confiscation is to take away property without providing any kind of counter security, and there is requisition as once our colleague read an article to us. yes , also a lawyer, as i understand it today. so, uh, yes, yes, and in the article, how he uses me , he was, well, a political scientist, a politician turned out to be also a lawyer. very nice. that's why the constitution provides that the constitution provides for requisition in fact. confiscation is the consequences of a criminal, but let's say procedural. so character. you offer mr. yatsenyuk for the fact that

something was confiscated from him there, then it is equivalent to pay everything that mr. yatsenyuk, in principle, has the opportunity to pay. and to include, for example, some kind of international legal procedure. however, he sorry emotional reaction. you know that justice and law are a little bit, two different things. it's absolutely a thing. yes, i would like to understand that it would be fair to take away, but we must act according to the law, you know, in this case. wait wait, what should not be taken away, there is a soul to take away, just bring legislation in accordance with the ideas of justice is impossible why because i explain the legislation it is impossible to regulate separately for each case, if we are talking about the fact that at the moment we must take away from the citizens of ukraine objects in russia from not in russia but in the crimea, why then we should not

take away from all the children from all enemies of the state all objects that are located on the territory of the state. why do we have to come up with some new laws or some new circumstances there exclusively for crimea why, for example, we cannot extend this to the far east i’m not sure that yatsenyuk, for example, no any this is an absolutely correct question, because the crimean initiative has long been discussed even, in my opinion, there was something in the house. yes, in this century, but then somehow it’s all, in a sense, even slow down now. come on, really. so, as the leader of the crimea puts forward and, of course, relies on the proposal on the crimea unconditionally. this initiative should be federal. i say that i support more that you said that the justice of the law is two different things. this is very bad, because the law must be perfectly fair if today and society is always not an explanation, if society has such a need, and we see that it is, it is formalized. first, colleagues are with you. very interesting. you lawyers would have already named two options, honestly weaning and confiscation

of requisition. there is all this current legislation, do not touch the constitution if you all the world lived according to the russian constitution, then, probably, everything would be fair for the most part, unfortunately, they live within the framework of their invented conceptual rules, which in no way what is spreading is to pick up assets, money, property, and so on from us, so today, but there is such an opportunity, and especially with regard to public opinion leaders who use their position in the social network, anything people who look at them glue things against russia you you know , literally yesterday or the day before yesterday we passed the law in three readings already, and 15 years this is in relation. military those who express disrespectful attitudes so that we have time, but what about there deprivation of citizenship these proposals are constantly depriving should follow from the legal consequences, if they have committed within the framework of extremism, some offenses of criminal prosecution can be worked on, we can talk about discussing with experts. but, perhaps, this toolkit, probably, is also quite working. and as we see the country that has won and

the whole world of democracy, the mind of the united states perfectly uses such a tool in relation to brilliant people, therefore, if their actions are really frankly extremist directed against the state. first, here are these e, deprived of citizenship deport, right? how would he like to say the deportation mechanism to carry away? we are expelling some there are no strangers, you will never deprive him of the citizenship of a russian citizen. he also stops you. to be a citizen, so i send him, as it is a citizen. wait, is a citizen of no other country. how do you propose to him and how, as you yourself said, this is not the legal method of russia without citizenship. is there such a status as these are my friends? i ’ll send it there right now, sit down there on a bench and you’ll purr with each other, there’s nothing so, you say money, once again there is such

a status for a citizen who lives in our country, but does not have any citizenship. it's called a stateless resident. yeah, and such precedents, but in this case, send him to the country where he came from, and the other is visitors who did not have time to become a citizen of russia, but if we are talking about a citizen whose russian citizenship is proposed to be deprived later in which country of his yes on choose wherever you want. let him go there if he wants to in poland, he wants the us national economy. how to plant let citizenship works for some kind of anti-russian activity, well , the current state of the legislation does not allow citizenship to be decided in the constitution and is under consideration in the state duma now. uh, new version of the citizenship law. there is also such a norm. no, you have to put up with it. yes, at the moment, but we have to think about how to make the soviet union

and deprived of citizenship. it basically did nothing. it basically did nothing. so maybe you don’t need to send it, but it’s right colleague, says, let him work brings so long holding his hand. i really don't really understand. eh, this sentence is for one simple reason, if a person, regardless of his views, commits crimes. but then he must answer for this crime depending on the severity of this crime, that is, to prison. what is the point of a citizen of the russian federation for a crime. if only he committed it, and somewhere outside the russian federation in the world, we don’t put him in prison, but to freedom like him represents letting go. there they represent that beyond our borders it is freedom, a civilized society and so on to see paris and die. as it is now fashionable to say. i'm not on a pile of shit civil

paphos, including mr. aksyonov and let's all those who misbehave there will not get up there. here i have a counter proposal to the deputies. well, let us then recognize this as a crime. let's introduce a thought article. he does not like his homeland, the criminal article does not like it. he's not enough. motherland loves it here. this is extreme distorts. they love their mouth too much. what to do? reward reward? so let's andrey vladimirovich yes, but you know honestly, i listened. now i listened to my colleagues. and you know, it’s such a difficult time right now that we are adopting legislation that will probably come back to haunt us, and in the future, what i mean, you know, there really are people who have left, who, probably, could be more silent today than to speak, and they and for their sake today. we

want something not for their sake, but from them then for them so. well, and for them, because the rest of society. if you take the fact that sociology is fully supported. now we have such a loner extreme situation and it is impossible to pass a law that is designed for debts. there is a lawful discrediting of the armed forces. yes, you understand, the girls there are so blurred, that is, the concept. yes, and what can be applied to any person absolutely to any person to apply? yes, for like you can get a term as for murder. and today yes, this law will be directed against enemies, and when enemies run out, this law will be turned against our citizens, like laws adopted during a special military operation, when a special military operation is always the first in my personal opinion, the second. a. if you can wait with something. here we have a concept among colleagues lawyers, yes, we must confess, we

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suddenly began to massively try to get rid of their property in our country. and in the same real estate, it seems like we won’t even have anything to take soon . examples, please give me on tuesday it became. it is known that the grandson of alla pugacheva, who left for israel, nikita presnyakov, put up for sale the dacha of the prima donna near moscow for 230 million rubles. they offer to purchase a six-bedroom spa cinema with a swimming pool, a library of 60 m², and views of the ista river from their other properties, the castles of the village and the mud of the disgraced pugachev, according to press reports. she decided to get rid of it last fall and even allegedly found a buyer, and pugacheva's husband publicly stated that he would not allow the castle to be reset to zero. i just won't give up. i'll eat hot tar trying to take it, that's why construction of his five-room apartment in the center of moscow for 260 million rubles.

semyon slepakov, who has fled to israel, is still not a foreigner, but journalist and agent anna mangait put up an apartment in moscow for 80 million. in an interview after fleeing abroad, mangait did not hide that her life in moscow was more than comfortable, it was hard to leave from moscow from this real russia. well, of course, in fact, we were accomplished people. and we lived quite well from the point of view of the material , we had apartments, the children studied in beautiful schools, and we got to know everyone around. it was a world that was built for ourselves, and we lived in this world for most of our lives. in it, we realized ads for renting a chic mansion in an elite village near moscow. millennium park fans quickly connected vera brezhneva with konstantin meladze, the couple does not live in russia, and after the start of brezhnev's special operation, she took a pro-ukrainian position and even recorded a new song in ukrainian. i worry

that i took the rampun to embroider a black pachar thread. i can already ask a question or you enjoy singing? well, here i understand, the logic is such that the near daredevil rent their area, and the money received will be donated. well, to prevent, or what, or how? you understand here, uh, they will sell. they then this house, too, where they money, so, let's say, they will not donate everything to everything - this is specifically the financing of terrorism. who 's come now in the bryansk region, there is a group of terrorists who are subject to all terrorism, you can already accuse them of promoting

terrorism. there funding is not very clear no matter how in what way you this is meladze because if he finances everything, he will finance , including the group that entered and the next one, which will try to enter or someone else or those who committed war crimes, but if they just throw mud at russia, that's continuously. this is what they will be talking about all the time. even here , such a moment of it, probably, many did not catch chervona and the black thread. she took it. ugh of course. right sector, there and so on. if they support, this radical ukrainian nationality from my point of view this too is already enough the lord has looked to me. now your video reminded me of the korean film parasites. you also mentioned this word at the beginning. well, yes, i mentioned, here’s an aksyonok film, how they lived well here, how they lived well here, but at the same time, eating at the expense of the state of the people of those people who live here for the most part , even the opposite about this in this movie admits that majority. you know that

most people end up being spectators - it would be desirable to do deprivation with these people citizenship is the most merciful thing that can be done here bogdan and we must definitely ask this, i ask not in that case. i'm trying to justify someone the examples that we gave most of them all who know how, not very unpleasant people. and should we immediately nationalize, and take it away, is there any intermediary, for example, the arrest of this property and all the financial flows that go, they go, for example, to needs there, i don’t know people who live in temporary accommodation centers . s uh, our region. we are just started a conversation on the show. i immediately asked. and why only after how many years have passed since the fourteenth year with us. it was bad everyone read it. well, it's 2023. why now we are not at all this is not at all quickly you are not right away. how is this related to my question? i suggest that you simply don’t cut this knot right away, what’s the point, and then, and then ,

the court went through the court with each specifically to deal with criminal articles on financing terrorism. here you understand immediately and immediately make a decision. why intermediate what do it? let's cut off this main question right away. we need to ask how we want to be treated first, when we globally, our official authorities say that the international legislation of the russian federation is not respected in relation to the russian federation. and why then do we allow ourselves this right in relation to our own citizens and we ourselves this we do not allow. in general , we are now discussing whether we need to change the law somehow. first of all, start with a question. how do we want to be treated us our rights, so that our rights are respected for starters, there are a few hmm. um, ambiguity, because you are talking about our citizens, and in the mass, our citizens, i just think, would like such measures in relations with the citizens of the russian federation, and it must be observed. oh, so now

the statute of limitations will scream at me and so on, but the prosecutor, due to newly discovered circumstances, can instruct to conduct an investigation into how much this castle built in the istra district corresponds to the income that they declare, but it is not necessary to do anything against children in cash to pay the option and precedents. we have according to the law on the correspondence of expenses to the received income of the position and other persons. it says in the law in voronezh 20 real estate objects. bridges at the police lieutenant colonel of which 15 apartments and the court agreed with this. you are talking about one about one situation when it comes to corruption crimes, when we are talking about the same pugacheva who

pours dirt on russia. sorry, she did not commit these corruption crimes, she is not a state. do you offer now the deadlines will be valid for a certain amount of time. you know, we are talking about ukraine as if we are talking about ukraine as a terrorist and bandit state. let's not be like her. let's not pass laws that will operate exactly the same as they are now there you tell it to the fighters who are on the front line correctly. yes, they used there smaller ones and those whom they, for example, captivate there. they would be happy to shoot there, it’s impossible on the spot around the corner. we have legislation, including international prisoners of war, which our country carefully observes. yes, it is not observed by ukraine and what is happening. we see we regularly see videos. and what do they do with our prisoners of war, but nevertheless, responding to such acts of terrorism. in my opinion, and war crimes. we ourselves should not commit terrorist

acts, nor war crimes, nor shirk banditry of speech, so emotional, but does this mean that you leave the right for uh, well, conditional there for conditional pugacheva, who, as you said, is pouring dirt on our country , continue to earn money in our country by renting out real estate there, which she does not have here, should not be taken away at all. she owns this property. see. there is also a ban on recognizing it when we talk about the sanctions that are imposed on russia by its citizens abroad. what a discussion the public has divorced there, including even in the european parliament, and how to take away this property, that is, what sanctions are, sanctions are arrests, st. petersburg is the inability to use your husband to use some kind of financial leverage in order to receive income from this property. let's include just such sanctions, let's include just such. i suggest. no need to rationalize like that. let's say there is absolutely no need to confiscate lawlessness. let's stop now. we are also

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help you place an order. yesterday was hard, today is easy. this is the meeting place on ntv, the place where everything becomes clear. we continue to stop at the most interesting place. boris borisovich let's mean, once again some kind of example is sitting, the star abroad earned money for a long time stubbornly. we have here now she is sitting abroad or he supports ukraine in word and possibly in deed by financing the all. well, it doesn’t matter if he has some kind of real estate here or a business here, what about this business or real estate do confiscate nationalize arrest do nothing come up with some other tool. yes taxes data period. i stopped. uh, soviet times, when one of the main accusations against the idents here, who swore at the soviet authorities. so the motherland fed you

and gave you an education. and you bitches, so there, shame on you scolding like eps well, then the story put everything in its place, and where these stars will be. in another 5 years, and how will we relate to the fact that they criticize our government. now we will live it, we will see. yes leo tolstoy, by the way, was poked around, asked for an anti-military position, as a result, leo tolstoy did not leave anywhere. just read. read, read articles in russian newspapers of 1904. read, sevastopol stories should be read. yes, that's okay, in short, now look, in fact the question. i better apologize, as a lawyer i will speak. i really love vera brezhnev it's a pity i'm not like boris today well , beautiful girls are good, well, her last name is dumplings upset. let's give her last name, galushka is like galushka, so there is no dumpling. here you are some kind of stupid and yet everything.

okay, seriously, i just didn’t like it at all and now i don’t call at all and to torture vera brezhneva and her husband miladze, if i don’t call, but if someone wants to take away her property, yes, take it away there is a procedure, she is, everyone was talking about her. yes? serve. eh, start doing this process. start a criminal case and prove that she financed everything there. duck prove it in court. after that , the offer can be terminated, all other version is a citizen of ukraine brezhneva galushka lead i oppose sanctions. go sanctions, lord yes. now i'm the last rap. i very soon i propose not to stand on ceremony already war. so the war attacked us, the west is all that pulling a little confiscation, but shooting and that's it. you just shoot. now the end will be idiocy. well, legal measures should be supplemented with moral iridical measures in society. a kind of irreconcilable atmosphere in the good sense of the word, so that people, but not wanting to and b, were afraid

to contact this property, this is moral. why just legal methods are not possible with this? we, too , can now now they will swear at me if it were a person, and taxes are not always paid. this is how you can solve it. there would be a desire. i'm still in particular i'm in a different form. i also want to say that there should be such an atmosphere. i won’t buy an apartment, slepakov, even if i have money, because he sang such an unbearable song. i just don't know there, let them set it on fire. no, no, just don't buy from them. maybe i'm somewhat naive, maybe, of course, someone wants to buy cheap, but just don't need toxic people and this toxic real estate. these are moral measures, not legal measures. you are the moral of these measures. how do you want to achieve. yes, wait, there the lists say, well, due to the consciousness of the public, of course, yes, like this. yes i am categorically against various moral aspects. for one simple reason. here are

the studios. how many eight people, so to speak, hopeful, 7 old men and one girl nine. so, i don’t see any of the gnomes over one. none of them would have. understand, there are no holy people here, so who will judge morality. well, who are we? i won't take it, i'm kind of moral and how much public opinion the institution that exists now has a reputation for you. there are such concepts in society, opinions are formed. yes, you can shout, and that one shout it. this is also public opinion. well, stop it. why do you mix the norms of the law with the norms of morality , the norms of morality always fulfill the law , the law must always comply. how do you do this public opinion dmitrievich on public opinion, if you look at what how it changed in relation to some people

in different ways to conditionally repent. galkin is the same there and on agent alla borisovna this is public opinion, they don’t do anything, they don’t, but for now i’m not if a human has not repented, of course. so let's take seconds. come on, we're already in the face of it all now we need to stop. the man married, became a father and went to prison. stole a bank card. now his aunt wants to take custody of his newborn son. she has no means of subsistence, but the mother of the child is categorically against it, since her husband's aunts killed her own sister. now this child can not be seen, no matter how i killed. it's just that i ended up in the wrong place, you think that you were framed at the same time, the neighbors

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who live abroad continue to pour dirt on russia and earn money in russia, what to do with them? and it is not necessary to take away their property, i will tell you what to do. you know, this is the property of this figurative bottle of water in her hands. here is such a parasite, do not let them get drunk. don't take this bottle away. let there be no opportunity to get drunk from this bottle. turn on financial mechanisms, financial regulators, financial levers. it is impossible, ahead of the possible, all such property. so. uh, vladimir viktorovich, to arrest, to carry out types of checks, to take away and those who are poor, who today are fighting here are not just other hands, drink from this bottle of water, well, sell it and send the money to the same background that the president said his order to the creator. different already so andrey vladimirovich i think that it makes sense to limit the rights, in terms of the sale of property and the use of property. and it’s easier to give a little for rent, that is receive a date, yes, and do not give the opportunity to realize, so we now stayed. eh, in fact, that they are right.

yes, you can’t use it, you can’t benefit, but it’s like we won’t take it away, yes, so bogdanov two ways the first way we create legislative norms and the basis for directly punishing people who work against the state, the second way it was announced by all those present to look for those norms of the article and laws by which we exist to subject them to pressure. taxes discrediting the army in accordance with terrorism, whatever, two ways, either the first or the second. i am in the previous part. how precisely dmitry vladimirovich was actively asked when he spoke about the need to focus on public opinion in this matter, not because i don’t trust it, in general, if the opinion, and it seems to be wrong, is not just people’s public opinion. we have good kind. and the quick-witted and public opinion can apologize in 2 or three months, especially with the very repentance that you are talking about, although it may be well, the man will repent. well, the punishment will recede. but if you read our telegram channel, i agree with bogdan that there are certain doubts about the kindness of easygoing. so it's about emotions

, and then okay, so today's story, it 's inspired by, uh, revelations, people who left and about the problems that they experience with their real estate. here there to implement and so on. in general, one uncle lived in a communal apartment. and if you wanted to move somewhere, here he sits watching the newspaper and real estate ads and reading exchange of a three-room comfortable apartment for any other living space. of course, he was very surprised, but he went to look, the owner of this apartment opens at the address. he says you can see the apartment. yes, you can look at such a large apartment, light is very good. speaks. excuse the catalog you have to use the toilet. well, of course, the man comes to the door and pulls. the door to the toilet. she does not open the owner says. well, we have automation. here you are the light. turn on the door itself, open it, it will open, man, in general just stunned. so a little confused , he goes out trying to get out of the toilet, two five

does not open knocking the owner from behind the door screaming, so we have automation. you probably forgot to wash away, you will wash away the door behind you. itself will open made some says. listen, tell me, please, why do you want to exchange such a wonderful apartment? the owner says, well, the apartment is, of course, wonderful. well, you know how it happens with us, then there is no water in the house, then the light is turned off. it was a meeting place that cannot be changed. 14:00 will not be branded tv all good. hello , you are watching news on ntv in the egor ivanov studio