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near the eco procedure, the parents decided to take a dna test with their newborn daughter, since their blood type did not match and the result horrified them. i am elena samarina, an independent expert and dna test, contacted us. why did you need our help? my husband and i underwent the ivf procedure, our family had a daughter. but we decided to do a dna test, which showed that our daughter is not my husband's biological daughter. therefore, we turned to you for the program. please help us figure it out. was there a replacement of the biomaterial, but the daughter is your daughter. yes daughter is i am the biological
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mother. we assume that during the eco procedure , my husband’s biomaterial was replaced, that is, my egg, uh, was crossed with an unknown man. what happened to you, when you found out about this, i experienced a deep shock to this procedure. i didn't come by chance. we really wanted a child, so this is a long-awaited child. let's then understand together and in order. how many now in your girls our daughters are six months old. we are very long planned. we didn’t get kids, of course. yes, ah , my husband underwent numerous examinations , i also gave us a year to plan in a natural way, try a year later, when nothing happened. we resorted to the eco procedure. you did ivf for a fee. we did it at
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the expense of compulsory medical insurance according to a quota, and you received a referral to a specific clinic. we chose the clinic ourselves based on numerous reviews, as well as friends. our acquaintances advised this perinatal center in the city of stavropol, which is why we turned to this particular clinic. to this doctor. as the preparation for the procedure took place on may 18, i entered into the protocol, i had a hormonal simulation performed. and drugs that stimulate the growth of eggs were injected into the stomach, and i also took drugs orally for my intended purpose after this stimulation on may 20, 8. we arrived in the city of stavropol directly behind the mountain of biological material. they took my eggs under anesthesia, and my husband donated
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sperm. on the same day, our cells were to be spliced and cultured for 5 days. and on the fifth day after material intake. we have already arrived directly for the transfer of embryos into the uterine cavity. it was the second of june 2021 , the replanting was carried out. after that, i rested, and we went home. how many embryos were there? in total , eight embryos were received, one of which was transplanted to me. seven embryos were frozen with glue and preserved. ah, for which we paid 1,700 rubles each. per month. uh, well, monthly for the month of january tatiana usually. how many embryos to transfer during eco standard are transferred one of an embryo in order to reduce the risks of obstetric complications during the transfer of two
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embryos and possibly the likelihood of multiple pregnancies. therefore, yes , one transfer is performed, uh, one embryo and the rest of the embryos are cryopreserved so that if pregnancy does not occur. or if you safely endured the pregnancy, gave birth to a child and decided, but repeat yes, then these embryos that crick are canned. they can be stored long enough to be transferred and become a mother, the second time the third time, without resorting already to the value of the standard procedure and hormonal stimulation braids with function, in fact. i had complications after stimulation. i started ovarian hyperstimulation, which continued until the tenth week to the twelfth self-fence. passed under anesthesia, there were painful sensations, of course, after the puncture. well, everything is within tolerable limits. well, how would this be done for a child. everything can be endured elena and when you
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realized that it had come, the long-awaited pregnancy on the fourteenth day after the embryo transfer, on the recommendation of doctors, i handed over m.m. did a test first. couldn't handle pregnancy. well, then she passed, and the blood for hcg, which confirmed the pregnancy. it was delight. we were very happy with our husband, what finally? here it all worked out. such conversations began as a boy-girl, then closer to the second trimester, when they already found out the gender, of course, they decided on the name and chose the name. i approved of the husband called polina how was your pregnancy. the pregnancy did not go smoothly. well, it all started here
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, ovarian hyperstimulation, which brought a lot discomfort was further replaced by toxicosis, then uterine hypertonicity. i repeatedly lay down to save all the analyzes of all the screenings. uh, including the blood screening, which was fine. uh, the only time at the second screening we got uh, pre-club foot in a child, but at the third screening. this has not been confirmed. just, apparently, the child lay his legs like that, inside. all was good. everything was perfect, how the birth went quickly on time, and at the thirty-eighth week. mm 10 pm. i felt discomfort in the abdomen. it started with severe pain, as this is the first birth. at first i didn't understand. that this is the beginning,
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but still we decided to play it safe and went to the hospital. and an hour later. i gave birth to a girl you immediately showed the girl showed immediately. well, they didn’t put their breasts on their stomach, they didn’t lay them out. doctors, and when they saw the child, they suggested that he had a diagnosis of genetic down syndrome, which implies numerous defects, therefore, as they explained to me, they didn’t attach breasts or she, well, you said that during pregnancy, doctors don’t found no pathologies, no abnormalities , and screenings showed absolutely nothing. well, all the risks were minimal, everything was fine. nobody could even put it down. what is it, perhaps for the whole pregnancy. i did about thirty ultrasounds from different doctors from different specialists on different equipment , including the latest, and no one saw this pathology. why did you
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do it so often? ultrasound you had evidence for uh fetus for a child, unfortunately, such situations sometimes happen, but in order to reduce to to minimize these risks, yes, they also exist. screening, uh, there is, uh, a non-invasive prenatal test that is performed from 10 weeks of gestation, that is, nothing is pinched off the baby. yes, what pregnant women are afraid of is determined by the mother's blood, the fetus cells, which look at the chromosome set and exclude chromosomal pathology. this is a paid analysis. unfortunately, it is not done within the framework of compulsory medical insurance, i did not do this analysis, since it was not shown to me elena and how old are you 31 years old at this moment, well, at the age of 31 the risks of chromosomal pathology. in general, they are the general population minimum, that is, up to 30 years, and the probability of having a child with the syndrome. dauna well, about one in
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fifteen hundred hmm age 40 and older er. this probability greatly increases very much, therefore, in general, of course, by age to assume this. yes, well, it was basically impossible elena how did you survive the news. when was the child's diagnosis confirmed? and i can't put it into words. it was a sleepless night that i spent in tears. i certainly. i prayed to god that the diagnosis would not be confirmed. but unfortunately. he confirmed. on the same night, he,
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of course, too. elena for a dna test you decided because of the diagnosis before your daughter. no for a dna test we decided because of the blood type, which was put in the maternity hospital, but we found out about it a month after the birth of our daughter, a nurse came for the first patronage. i asked her for my extract from the maternity hospital, since nothing was given to me; the extract indicated that the child had a third blood group. i'm like uh medical worker. hmm, i understand this a little, the point is the fact that i have the first blood group, my
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husband has the second group, my daughter cannot have the third group. therefore, we decided on a dna test. and maybe some kind of mistake , we also thought at first that perhaps this was a mistake. we decided to double-check to another laboratory , retake the blood and get the same third group. you retaken all three of the child. yes, all three of us, of course, were waiting for this result. we completely trusted the doctors , after all, there was hope, that in fact there was some kind of mistake. so we decided to come to to you on the transfer, to double-check everything, so that you can help us. but then having decided with her husband for a genetic examination. what result were you waiting for initially, we assumed that there was a complete replacement of the embryo further. when we already received the dna results in our hands and realized that i
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am a biological mother, and my husband is not a biological father, we began to mean that at the eco stage was a substitution of my husband's material. this is a huge pain, this misfortune is grief. it's even hard to imagine coming for your his child suddenly find out that he is not mine, that he is a stranger and someone made a mistake. what state was your husband elena in when he found out that he was not the father. my husband was in deep shock, as if we were together. we were in total space. we did not know what to do, where to turn, then, when we gathered our thoughts, we began to write letters to the ministry of health. i called. in the perinatal center
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, we were just a shock, in other words you can’t say, but here’s your husband, he didn’t ask you a simple question. that's how you are mom, and i'm not dad right away thought that the bug was in the lab's way. we have my husband did not even have doubts that i could. go left, there or something like that. we have a very strong family, we have a trusting relationship. and this is out of the question. well, how did it happen? i would very much like to know if your husband and the official father of your daughter intend to find out where his biological child is now in the studio alexander alexander elena
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told us that you were very happy and very happy to know that he would finally remain a dad. yes, of course, i was very happy. i was at i had a marriage, well, before elena, it’s true, it was short-lived, but there were no children either. that's when i met elena, i realized that i want to have a family with this person, i want children from her and, well, more kids. so, of course, we were waiting for this child. you couldn’t even think that you weren’t the girl’s father, no, then, no matter how you thought, and yes, and there were no such thoughts, maybe you didn’t think that there could be some kind of substitution. we had the documents in our hands. well, they are on hand, where it says whose biomaterial, who should be the biological father. here, if there were none can not imagine, and even thought. when he
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told us about the blood type for the first time from a nurse who came to us. here, i told us. somehow it is so incomprehensibly written here in handwriting, sort of like a third. let me send you a photo from this particular fragment yourself. well, you looked, yes, it is very similar to the third. well, immediately doubts remained. well, you never know wrong put in the hospital. well negligence. we just decided to double-check this issue. uh, the blood group of the guys at another clinic, already there, too , will confirm to us that you have the third. well. to be like this couldn't. well, if it was that we had a complete substitution, that is, that she was not a mother, and i would not be a father 50 to 50. at first we didn’t even consider, and when the result turned out to be zero, only you, what thoughts did you have doubts, even until now
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, i still want to, how to be sure of this issue, how much, as it were, my daughter or not my daughter, it turns out, a thought. well, how could this even happen? here. we have a document confirming that the biomaterial was mine, you handed over your biomaterial in one day. yes, we gave up on the same day. we arrived at this clinic on may 28, as i remember now, at the appointed time. my wife was taken to the ward, because her procedure is well. she is under anesthesia, it is more time-consuming, so to speak complicated, and i have a nurse for a prescription that she gave us to sign some documents confirming that i can once decide on the future fate of the embryos received, so that, as if without my consent, the spouse would not will be able to dispose of them, that is, we are, as it were
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, both responsible for them. that took me to i opened a room specially there at the end of the corridor. it should have been closed, like this room. she opened it, and said that there was a jar with my name on the table , exactly what was on the tag. by the surname on this jar, so she said that when the whole procedure, well, it will be ready, that is, the jar is on the table and leave. then she 'll fit. she will be taken away, the jar is signed. and even if a man with the same surname is handed over that day, it's all the same. even though he is full of namesakes in general, there is still a possibility. not at all confuse this stuff because there are very strict standards that must not be violated. yes, when working with biological material, accordingly , the cap is even signed, and it was already marked with a surname. yes, she is, of course, my last name, my initials were on her when i left this room. i passed by the reception. and where is the nurse there was
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busy talking, well, with people people clarified something with him. i said, i can still go. i said, yes, that's it, you can go to your spouse, take there in a few hours, because she will have to recover from anesthesia. here i am gone. i'm under the clinic. been waiting for a few hours. purely, and what happened to the jar? i don't know how busy the nurse was , the room stayed, i left open. well, i blocked and left, that is, no one locked the key, the material is taken for several minutes, then for a certain time, but processed, so there is nothing criminal in this. moreover, the jar was signed. someone there specifically something to pour wisdom. well, would hardly. why alexander we have a document stating that you were supposed to become the biological father. let's get a look. for fertilization, the sperm of alexander mikhailovich lysenko's wife was used
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. this is what we had confidence to the last, we must understand. how many punctures were there that day. yes, how many men handed over, uh, a spermogram at that time in order to, well , try with the clinic in some way, yes, it is possible to establish. uh, the fact that, after all, the material was changed, we came to clinic opening. our appointed time is eight in the morning, eight or half-past eight in the morning. there was no one there yet. we were the very first and after us there was a couple more talking with whom he talked to these countries at the reception, how would everything then i went out into the street and, accordingly, i don’t know anymore. how many people passed through this branch. but how did the clinic itself explain this fact to you? i called, m-m , the perinatal center asked to connect me with the head physician. i introduced myself. eh, i described my situation a story. for what the head doctor interrupted me, did not listen to me , said e, your
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problem is being checked. all the best. goodbye. i was very offended that even hmm, not even about an apology, probably, there can be no question. well, they probably didn't even talk to me. i wanted to ask. i wanted to ask how this can be, why did this happen. and how much time has passed since this call and did you write any written application to the clinic, that is, there are certain deadlines in which you we had to provide, well, some kind of answer , alexander e, wrote to the ministry of health and we called the clinic itself. how much time has passed already now i will tell the end of april. well, that is, for several months the clinic did not answer you. no, there is already a violation. yes, there is already negligence of the medical institution. first. why hasn’t she called the medical institution yet and talked to her parents, explained the situation, explained the situation.
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this is the first moment. why didn't they call and clarify, right? what do we do next with your jar, what we do with your tests. come, hurry up. we have to dispose of it there. or will we keep it further, that is, the second moment, where the medical institution shows that they are already showing their negligence. everything that cannot be frozen or stored, yes, is disposed of, therefore these documents are signed by both spouses , therefore, as if there are no violations, the clinic after the delivery of the material should not call and ask what to do with what is left of elena in your relationship with alexander something that changed after the incident. no, we have. hmm better support each other without support. we are just, well, nowhere alexander elena's mother is very worried that after what happened you will leave your daughter eating in the studio valentina hello when your daughter and her husband
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decided on the ivf procedure, did you support them? of course, i see that they have a very great desire to have children. they have a very good serious relationship with each other. i supported them, that the family would be complete. my daughter is closely connected with medicine. she is my nurse of the highest category, she is very much studied. she read a lot, never in her life would have thought that everything would come back like this. did you know that the daughter and her husband decided to do a dna test? yes, i knew. at first i thought that the child could take one of the relatives. eh, blood. for example, my husband had the third group. i thought the granddaughter would take her grandfather's blood. for some reason, i hoped that it would be like this, that it would still be 99.9% of both dad and lena, my mom in the test would have me. i hope that the child
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will still be native, well, the test will turn out 99.9%, for some reason i now also believe in this alexandra according to documents. you are polina's dad. yes, i was waiting for her. i wanted her. this is my daughter, despite the shock situation, alexander is a loving dad for his girl. let's look at the very birth of their daughter elena and alexander live according to the daily routine of little polina walking sleep feeding strictly by the clock jumped milk. i asked myself because of the stress. well managed to feed the month. well, they have introduced complementary foods, they are already eating vegetables and cereals of rice, corn, buckwheat, little polina's health for parents in the first place elena fulfills all the recommendations of doctors therapeutic exercises and massage 5 times a day starts from the tip of the fingers, ending with the small pillow. we
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are working on everything, all the muscles are in vain , elena rejoices, she has been taking objects since she was three months old. we have rattles, she is interested in everything. she is a very inquisitive girl. a very emotional smiling smile does not leave polina’s face when she spends time with her dad. alexander devotes every free minute to his daughter when we come home from work. that is, we can take a walk with the child, then we have dinner a family child the redeemer is definitely necessary and then already. fang to sleep he is so attentive kind, sympathetic and in relation to the line in relation to polina alexander caring. you often think about the possibility that, somewhere at the same time
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, another man is also taking care of your child. yes, of course i think, because the question remains open. what happened to my material? and maybe someone in the family has my child. doctor's pregnancy and incredible dna retest result continues in minutes with us now such a heroine, whose relationship is still trailing. he is almost 30 years older than me psychologically. yes, it brought me very much, no matter what i did, no matter what i put on , there was always a stream of criticism addressed to me all these clothes. it's from your husband's time. let's get ready for a new relationship. you will have everything, start a new life of a new image, you are so happy, you just glow, as if a big burden has fallen off your shoulders. i would even invite her on a date. in general,
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the son shared with you his experiences. yes, in our family it is customary that children always shared with me and joys and sorrows, and i knew about all his hardships. the first for us was, firstly, a very terrible night of childbirth, that is, when he was informed that the child was sick, he was terribly worried. i tried my best to calm him down. but it turned out to be everything not everything was expected of us, it
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was the second blow. when we found out that the blood type of our granddaughter, she, well, does not match the blood types, neither mom nor dad, and i, as a health worker. i understood that this could not be simple, and in your opinion, what happened during com, most likely, all the same, the doctors are to blame , somewhere there was simply a negligent attitude to their duties. maybe he accidentally mixed up the biomaterial. i really want to get justice. i hope the program will help us in this, i want the guilty to be punished, found punished, to admit their guilt, they denied. so they didn’t shift everything, well, they didn’t try to cover each other. i want to raise the child and give him a worthy
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future further, but for this you need. big investment a lot of financial, if any an amount that could at least somehow, but compensate. decent, at least development in general. of course, we can try and we will fight this situation, but uh, there are cases when, in the event of a substitution of the establishment of a substitution, the volume of materials was collected 2 million. in your situation, the child was born. hmm, unhealthy in this case. i believe that it would be right to demand compensation in a larger amount if, in the event of an investigation, it is found that yes indeed in the actions of, uh, the staff was. mm there were mistakes made negligence in this criminal legal
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aspect. and civil is the recovery of moral damages. and why didn't you turn to the investigative committee, turned to the committees of the russian federation of the criminal case. and yes, at this stage, the investigator refused to initiate a head case, but his boss handed it over. well, i returned it for a review. yes, they were familiar with the materials, there is no verification. and why you did not use this right, we did not raise questions for us. you can come to therefore apply in different cities at a distance of 250 km, he and his child ride there, maybe once we went idling, the investigator called us 250 km away to ask just a question. he didn't even study the gist of my message to them, and then he says at the end, well, we'll be transferring another case to another district. well, the other area is one because it's not a clinic located in our area. that's all, contacted. at
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the end of april 20, somewhere around the fifth of april, i wrote a letter to the regional roszdravnadzor and the regional explosion. what happened to us situation, please, understand and find out at all. sorry check. to which the roszdrav replied to me in mid-may that everything was documented well, and the ministry of health told me that they would only conduct a documentary check. and that's it, and after that the ministry of health did not send a single letter on the 27th, somewhere around april. i wrote to the investigative committee of the russian federation, this is what we started to lower gradually, then i wrote, uh, the information center on the social networks of the investigative committee, that i suspect that the investigative committee, but artificially delays time and simply shifts my problem back and forth. and that i received a letter from moscow that they do not see any violation in this. if you are not satisfied with the response of the investigator or
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the investigator refuses to give the criminal case. you go to court then, well, according to the law, as it should be. why did i write the regional prosecutor's office, bloody prosecutor's office. we, too, began to throw appeals in the wrong areas, good. they quickly and in any way investigative committee 3 months. well within months they handed it over, after all they need a department. i wrote on the government website. and the governor of the stavropol territory, they gave me hello, consideration and she wrote to the federation council of the russian federation , they handed over the prosecutor's office of the stavropol territory. the prosecutor's office of the stavropol territory said they did not see any violations. according to the documents, everything is correct. they conducted a check, and a third party ruled out in this matter refer to the orders. uh, with a more released later, we even appealed to the ministry of health and that they are doing well, and they
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added that the investigative committee. it is still checking at the moment and waiting for the check. if you are not happy with the answers, go to court. show us, please, the answers from the prosecutor's office and federal supervisory services through firewood. the prosecutor's office of the leninsky district of the city of stavropol, by checking violations in the conduct of assisted reproductive technologies eco, also confirmed the exception, the presence of biological material from third parties during the procedure of your wife samarina elena ivanovna , the territorial body of the federal service for supervision in the field of healthcare in the stavropol territory. confirmation of violations of the procedure for the provision of medical care in a state budgetary institution. the stavropol regional clinical perinatal center has not been documented if uh the result of genetic testing was attached, which demonstrates that elena is the mother, uh alexander
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is not the father, but here the question is if the woman has fallopian tubes. e, the transfer was carried out in a cycle with ovulation is not excluded by 100% probability, and pregnancy from another men, therefore, it is possible to prove the substitution of the guilt of the clinic only if yes is found. uh, the source of the biological material, yes , or will be found, and the child is from, let's say, obtained from your biological material, because the prosecutor's office is conducting a documentary check. yes, and uh , the prosecutor's worker did not interrogate you, and you elena well, it is obvious that a similar question, yes, excluding the fact of infidelity, and the birth of a child. here, a third person should have been asked by the prosecutor's office, but this was not done was. and this indicates that the check, in fact, probably boiled down to the fact that the prosecutor's office sent a letter to this
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perinatal center. they wrote that we have magazines. we are puncturing something and getting the bottom of the material. everything is fine. the prosecutor's office was limited to this. that's all, and therefore you need to go to a personal appointment with the leadership of the prosecutor's office, the same applies to the investigative committee. and some additions. the prosecutor's office should not organize inspections, at least it is necessary to see which of the men applied at least to that month, in order to donate biomaterial, conduct a genetic study with their consent and find out there may be a match with the girl who was born to elena elena you said that you took the choice of a doctor very seriously based on the reviews on the recommendations of friends of your acquaintances, you managed to talk with your doctor after the incident. no, my colleagues met with a doctor that you yourself chose based on patient reviews. let's listen to what he said by the department of assisted reproductive technologies of the stavropol regional clinical perinatal center. sergei is not a river
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insists his colleagues. they could not make a mistake during the artificial insemination procedure. this is excluded during the procedure of objective technologies, all manipulations are performed individually from different times, and for each russian couple individually and in the process of manipulation of the intersection of biological material from other e strangers, as well as between married couples, it is impossible according to the head of the department at the clinic. no violations were found. but as it turned out that little polina had a different father to ask elena in this case , pregnancy, but it could come. naturally , together with a medical institution. that is, not by him, but naturally to people. well, would i really go so far, would i come to the transfer, if everything was real, as the doctor says, and in the clinic you were checked for pregnancy before
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ivf a was done before the transfer. uh, i had, uh, an ultrasound on the first of june. hmm, i got sick. i was already on the record. due to the stimulation i started having severe pain in my stomach. i ran to do an ultrasound. it was june 1, the doctor looked at me. there were enlarged ovaries against this background and, as it were, more after that on june 2. we went. hmm, for replanting, that is , the day before, but replanting. here are the bags. you could say you've made sure you're not pregnant. well, as it were, yes alexander but for a few days, well, let's say, there a week before the artificial insemination you were next to ukraine, of course, these facts are infidelity. so i completely exclude him after the wife the stimulation was very uncomfortable. elena has documents. let's look at female
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infertility of difficult origin. ovulation was stimulated with the use of gonadotropin rezek hormone antagonists , follicle puncture was performed, on 28. 2021, the procedure for in vitro fertilization plus intracytoplasmic sperm injection was recommended , physical and sexual rest was recommended for 14 days. this document only says that an embryo was transferred into the uterine cavity. he er, this document does not say that pregnancy was due to transfer. have you received any official response from the clinic? we do not have a single official answer immediately after the advertisement, the spouses will meet with a representative of the very clinic in which they underwent the eco procedure , the substitution or error in the first dna test of the desert and paternity and motherhood has been changed, the decisive moments in the life of the family will come immediately after the advertisement, my favorite
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elena became a mother in your clinic, and alexander did not become a father after ivf, these are women at high risk, and they should not only be observed in a third-level hospital. this is a perinatal center. well , the kind will be resolved elena as far as we know. uh, got registered in my place residence, and at this seven weeks in 7 weeks. and on this, as if we don’t know when, what happened next, but elena was recommended to be observed in the hospital at your clinic. of course, there was no such offer. all women who have undergone the ivf procedure stay with us, as a rule, and childbirth is allowed. we have a uterine cavity on june 2 after embryo transfer. uh, they closed my sick leave and sent me home to be observed at the place of residence. it's even listed on the listing. how do you comment on this, i can only say that
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that investigative measures are underway. uh, hmm was within the departmental quality control and safety of medical activities. conducted documentary, exit travel. uh, check uh, where violations from the part of the reproductive. uh, hmm hasn't been identified. that is, found violations. yes, how do you explain that elena nevertheless became a mother, alexander did not become a father if no violation was revealed. well, there is such a version, huh? i can't say, we are actually considering enough complexity, the current situation. and it's very important to us hear the opinion of the clinic.
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how could it happen that a woman became a mother, and a man did not become a father, while he handed over his biomaterial, he handed over the material, and i want to say that the man handed over his biomaterial at the same time at the same time to the woman who, who is undergoing follicle puncture that day all this is given to the embryologist and, uh, where is the embryologist, then in his laboratory he performs the fertilization of the egg, there can be no mistakes. why because, uh, the lab is closed, there's only one embryologist working there. and no one is allowed there. outsiders even staff standards and have not been violated by mistake is excluded is excluded at this point. uh, the embryologist only deals with one married couple. he deals with the material of one pair, so everything was clear here. hmm violo. now, if it really was that clear, then how did daddy get a baby that wasn't his. perhaps this
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happened, naturally, by, that is, before that moment. how was the eco operation supposed to happen you mean that elena had some connection no of course i can't no one to blame. no, this is an assumption. in no case, let's assume that alexander did not bring his own material and poured it. of course, i'm here as a representative of the clinic. tell me where are the embryos left after this program. they are disposed of with consent. e donors. do you have such consent, if they are disposed of, then on what basis? well , because it was not spelled out in the contract. what guarantees do the couple have? that the embryos were destroyed, they were used for some further procedures with others clearly. they're disposed of because uh. well, what guarantees does the guy have? here,
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which do not spell it out in the contract. no legal side is, probably, still not my question. and how are you? then explain the documents that the family has in their hands, which were issued by your clinic? let's see let's for fertilization , the sperm of alexander mikhailovich lysenko's wife was used, what can you say about this? alexander mikhailovich turns out, how do you have a document, but the father does not have a child? why does the clinic not communicate directly with patients? why? do you avoid these people by not responding to their complaints? you are already getting three checks by the investigative committee, the prosecutor's office and the ministry of health of your region, but you didn’t even bother to communicate directly with your parents, what else is going on? inspection
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of the ministry of health the results of the inspection did not reveal a violation of the issues in another. why don't you want to contact people? explain to them in a human way what happens when there is an appeal or would have pressed would always go always answer. we therefore, i think that elena alexandrovna received an answer to her handling in person. nobody communicated. well, what reason? well, for the reason, probably, because they had to go first, probably to the clinic. a version of alexander regarding his biological material. you heard and i heard, and i want to say that there can be no mistakes in containers. could lose. i don’t know , they could drop it, they could drop another slip. i was embarrassed that the room is without the supervision of staff, so to speak. there
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was one nurse at the reception, which is located in the middle of the corridor. he's there at the end there is a ward next to the corridor, a laboratory or something like that, the door is closed there. i don't know anyone. can enter there in this room, well, let's say no one in these can you are there alone and collect your business employees. who came dropped your biomaterial left. immediately, the nurse passes this to the embryologist, who should take this jar and pass it on, but she was busy. she was talking to other people at the reception. well, pardon the chronology. i can't pull off our words that day was set in within the scope of the check. how many more hmm men? submitted your favorite material? how many times has an embryologist performed these manipulations with me? there were four more women in the ward who underwent a real puncture . please look at these documents for female infertility of difficult origin.
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ovulation was stimulated with the use of gonadotropin rezek antagonists , the follicle puncture was performed on may 28, 2021 , the procedure was performed. in vitro fertilization plus intra cytoplasmic sperm injection. who is it recommended physical and sexual rest for 14 days parents you guarantee that the child will come from those donors that are indicated in the documents, because in your documents you have elena alexander and in fact only elena of course, well, that is, you give , but something didn’t work for them, our grateful patients , at the moment we have such a situation , your clinic apologized to the family. we comply with all standards and all clinical recommendations. and uh, orders in force of the ministry of health of the russian federation where? well, that is, the clinic does not see its fault.
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no, he does not see. if there is no violation on the part of the clinic, there is no fault. how could this happen? this could happen, naturally, by elena, i have to ask you again if you had intimacy with another man, there was no intimacy with another man. it's out of the question for me. you still believe that your husband and polina's dna test might have been wrong. i hope they are wrong to the last hope. what were the tests wrong alexander is ready to hear the result your genetic expertise.
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i invite our dna specialist daria popova to the studio daria of the stavropol territory dreamed of a child for many years, but both were diagnosed with infertility and oms elena samarina and alexandra lysenko underwent ivf procedure and the clinic and the doctor the spouses chose themselves six months ago elena and alexander became happy parents. they had a girl, polina, but the blood type of the child does not match the blood type of the parents. a genetic examination carried out at the initiative of the family showed that elena is polina's mother but alexander is not the father today in the studio, representatives of the clinic in which eco was married denied that they could confuse or replace alexander's biological material and suggested that elena
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simply became pregnant from another man? however, helen 's family denies cheating in the dna program, hoping that there was a mistake and alexander is still polina's biological father. the answer to the main question in their life is in this envelope. elena, i can open the envelope. yes alexander are you ready? learn the truth attention? on the one hand, the official daughter of polina lysenko, on the other hand, her official parents are mother elena samarina and
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we don’t want to repeat this a second time. i can't even trust doctors now situations. no, i won't go again. or maybe you still have something to confess husband or elena no, absolutely. i am clean in front of him like morning dew, i am doubly offended that this still happened. i have confidence in my daughter-in-law. and there can be no other option. elena voluntarily passed a lie detector test. here's how it happened. let's take a look before the polygraphy check elena samarina is absolutely calm, and she herself helps the specialist to fix special sensors on her body, which will record her every reaction.
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in general, they cheated on this husband, no, some time after the replanting , you had an intimate relationship. well, forbidden period. meaning no, but you would cheat on your husband in order to get pregnant, she doesn’t have any secrets from her husband, that is, you are sure of your honesty and correctness. i am sure of my decency . alexander my husband is beloved and there can be no strangers, i can swear by my daughter to hear what the polygraph examiner will say. i can’t have anything for my wife there was, the long-awaited result of a lie detector test immediately after the advertisement. the search
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say absolutely and with certainty that elena did not deceive in this polygraph test procedure the desire to deceive or there is something then keep silent hide was not revealed and the polygraph that was carried out and her answers were absolutely reliable. she spoke true. what conclusion can you give you like this, that there was no betrayal of her husband, there were no third-party or parallel intimate relationships, and the desire to get pregnant with the help of eco was real, it was thought out, she was expecting this child, she went to this honestly and normatively, observing the requirements that had to be observed. i was in it. the answer is 100% sure that this will be the only one in the future, we will seek justice so that the clinic admits its mistake, and does not deny it
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