50% of the four, 40% of this three and 10% of the five somewhere, but as you go. e hmm by 1930 we'll be changing that ratio and building 60% threes. uh, that means 30% - this will be a four for us and also 10% somewhere a five. that is, we are trying to satisfy. uh, demand, just uh of those people who today can not afford. e, means, a high level, but at the same time i want to note. and this does not mean that these will be some hotels, uh, with reduced comfort. no it is. well, yes, i thought that this is connectedness, what is our stardom? or that's according to some other standards between the people. this will be a good star rating. it will be modern comfortable rooms for which regions and perhaps, which types of tourism are especially in demand. or maybe a special bet to do on the part of the state on your part

of the corporation. so you see, maybe there's an increase in interest. why today is one of the strategic direction of development of large complex tourism projects? well, this does not mean that we do not build separate hotels. we also build them from 120 rooms and up, but complex and large projects are our priority, because around this big business. eh, such an effect arises and, as they say, small businesses are nesting there, there are some restaurants, cafes, but a lot of people turn to us for the implementation of a separate hotel. mostly. we are now looking at the small towns of the golden ring. yes, there is no need for large large complex projects. we are happy to go along with investors and build such separate hotels. well, it is clear that we, probably, mainly rely on our own tourist, that he will nevertheless move across the country to a new tourist magnet. but

still now. china, after the removal of the covid-19 restrictions, has already opened, it seems to be to us. a good sign yes, but first of all, of course, we rely on the russian tourist and our main problem is the lack of this very tourist infrastructure, so there is complete confidence that after we create such conditions we will create such an infrastructure, and our people will begin to discover the new russia more and more. interest that will e show and our compatriots are automatically foreign tourists too, but will come to us , because as far as i know, but from hmm china and other foreign states , the interest in russia is colossal and i think that such territories as the far east and hmm baikals siberia e, here we have in altai, well,

projects in sheregesh and a large number will be in demand. uh, tourists from china will be happy to come and have a rest. and here you are where and how you rest. this is some luxury vacation. uh, abroad and in the country. you know, if we are talking about the nature of our activity, right now, yes, you are on vacation just fully on vacation. i can not. i myself am a lover of the sea, of course like many others, like 60% of our russians. i lived at the sea for a long time. hmm . unfortunately, i worked at the sea. you know who works at the resort, they say they never rest. and this is how it actually is by the nature of its activity, i travel a lot around the country and discover for myself, just unique places. i like them so much and plan to. if i only imagine a full-fledged vacation and i will definitely go with my family, both to siberia

and the far east and kamchatka and from sakhalin and to all these wonderful places that i have already seen. i have already planned. hope i can make it work. thank you very much for your conversation. thank you hello in russia decade of science and technology state corporation rosatom tv company presents a program on how science will change our lives for the next 10 years. i vladimir antohin. i am ekaterina in 10 years we

will learn how to control the earth's magnetic field, well, because i invited optimists who believe that in 10 years we will really learn how to control the earth's magnetic field. this is sergey nikitov, a specialist in the field of micro and nano electronics. hello good evening, according to tradition , anatoly solovyov, a geophysicist, is visiting me. good evening. i am anatoly petrukovich , a specialist in the field of space plasma. good evening. let's light it up. well, let's see, because i have just two optimists sergey a me two skeptics anatoly well then, not our optimists from skeptics will make a forecast at the end of the program. with what probability in 10 years we will really learn to control the earth's magnetic field about the history of the earth's magnetic field will tell our expert professor kapustin who and when discovered the ability of bodies to attract each other is unknown. the very first mention of magnetic iron ore is 4.000 years bc

thanks to the compass 1.000 years ago arose. far my voyage, but after the invention of the compass. well, no progress, for many years was not observed. although experiments with magnets did not stop in any way, right? in 1600 , the first treatise appeared, and the great magnet of the earth. the first reasonable theory of magnetism was put forward by descartes, then the extet and the ampere gaus proved gilbert's assumption that the source of the magnetic field is inside the earth in 1831 john ross discovered the north magnetic pole, and his nephew reached the magnetic pole in antarctica 10 years later, today the mystery is the work of nikola tesla who allegedly used a generator, working from the earth's magnetic field that

would be good to find out, but i have a personal question for you. have you ever used the earth's magnetic field yourself? it's you and so you want to pin me up put me in a dead end not in kompas always with you the arrow is always on oh somehow here to the north. that's back there. so, if anything, hope will not be lost with me, but if you know how to use it, then i don’t have to sergey pavlovich well, really, the magnetic field is not visible. well, you ca n't hear the smell e no, and how and when people learned that the earth has a magnetic field. well, you know, let's take a slightly different angle, let's see. here i am, when i start reading children's books to third-year students of the moscow critical institute of physics on solid state physics, one of the parts. this also applies to the magnetism of this course. i always start with uh let's talk about order

of magnitude. because if you know what the value is and you can somehow measure it. well, a boiler of some physical size, what is the real value, then it’s already possible get away from it. well, if we take an atom, then due to, so to speak, the movement of an electron in the vicinity of the nucleus , an electromagnetic field arises there. so here is the magnitude of the magnetic field of watts, it is about 10 in the fourth tesla what is 10 a little more than five on 104 earth's magnetic field test - this is about half a pct that is, it is about a million times less than a million times less than the magnetic field inside atom. in order to influence the magnetic field inside the atom , much stronger fields are needed. it's about 10 in the fifth tesla, that is, about 100.000 times from these same teslas, that is, the field for influence is greater than the earth's field by about 10 billion times

a hundred billion times 10.000 billion. if such fields exist or not? yes, they are neutron stars, well, they are far from it, so to speak, but in principle, what size of the field is another example. uh, human thought, in our body. there is the movement of electrons, also cool blood, so to speak, when i say that it is my thought that jumps. electromagnetic impulses are also born there. so this is magnetic. field when jumping thoughts. this is 10 -14 tesla 100 billion times less than the earth's magnetic field as far as the computer, like for 10 minutes, the eighth principle is built for people. you see, it must be a laboratory, it can be measured, that it can be measured at all. here the bridge jumps counts, when from 3 + 2 here are those thought to return to the earth's magnetic pole. so the earth's magnetic field is a lot or a little on the one hand, about half - it's not so much, but on the other hand there are

examples. well, for example, here i have magnet. yes, and there is something that this magnet attracts. i also visited the northern sea fleet. and there are degaussing ships out there, what are they doing? the fact is that especially during military events, so to speak, it means, uh, when a ship is something like that. this is a big ship. yes, it is magnetized, including in the field of the earth, and now, if you have a magnetic mine, then it starts to attract everything and you need it. that's even such a small field to the full extent. it magnetizes a huge object with great force. the ship attracts, of course. ship you need to demagnetize the ship. to do this, you need to demagnetize, for the sake of it. i people learned about the magnetic field in general people. well , our expert said it correctly. it became known approximately. there four thousand years ago. mostly. first of all. or rather, not mainly, where such a scientific civilization was born. it's in china and it's been

established that somewhere in the north there's some kind of big magnetic mountain. well, or some kind of mountain that attracts an arrow to itself. that's where it all started from. so, well, really years have passed and approximately in the middle of the middle ages, there 14-15 century. it seemed that the polar star was attracting the magnetic needle. and only in time during the journey of columbus from europe well, to this very, so to speak , america that he and india that he was looking for it turned out that when crossing the atlantic ocean, the arrow suddenly begins to deviate sharply to the west. so, at first they were attracted to the magnetic to the usual meridian of the earth, and then they realized that there was something like that and whether it had only been 40-30 years somewhere, when it was shown and proved that earth's magnetic field exists somewhere inside this very earth.

well, and more to carry, there 100 200 years have passed gauss theory appeared, our lomonosov also took part, so to speak, in this matter, and in 1905, albert einstein as, or rather, not as, but among the five most important unsolved problems in science said that to understand what a magnet is taken from the earth's magnetic field is one of the most important tasks well. after that, so to speak, there were tesla's experiments. many other experiments, in this way, people came to the conclusion. and what is magnetic field and why is it needed sergey ivanovich and how long ago, in addition to the iron mountain in the north, people explained the effect of magnetism, you know, well, really , a magnetic field does not allow a person to feel his feelings. it cannot be felt. nothing. the most important thing the most important thing is when a person understands what the marketing field is, when he has learned to measure it, as lomonosov said, science begins where

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, the most probable hypothesis is the origin of the field from the interaction of iron flows in the liquid state with a solid core, and the rear substance is electrified, a current arises, this means that there is a magnetic field. well, not everything is so obvious here, the core became solid no more than 1.5 billion years ago, and the earth's magnetic field has 4 billion years and its induction was five times greater than today. anatolyevich let's keep it simple. look what kapustin said there. we have magnetic filings, we have a magnet, just filings. yes, there is, just oh, a magnet, well , metal filings. here, it is clear, yes, that there is definitely a magnetic field, but right now it definitely is. so how does it come about. and what is this all that. this effect is produced

simply as called permanent magnets, but, unfortunately, in these permanent magnets the magnetic field is created by elementary currents. this iron, for example, in special atoms of magnetic materials arises e, individual magnetic fields. yes, in a sense it is self-organizing. if it turns out everything is built in parallel there. this means that, as it were, it lines up synchronously, and therefore it turns out, as we say, the magnetic field near the magnet is constant, but, to unfortunately. in celestial bodies, such a trick does not work, because they are too large and it is impossible to build something to exist, a billion. here he went around the earth. that's how it's impossible to line up impossible to produce. right there you have sticks there, uh, magnetic field lines, they are visible in these stripes. yes, these many lands work exactly the same on earth, a different mechanism.

so let's say earth is earth. it rotates in the earth there is a core, it is hot and there is a so-called convection, when in mantle, mostly hot matter rises up and in such a cycle it goes down further heats up and there are a lot of such rings, but not very much. do not think that something is moving inside. so, in our sense, this is centimeters per year, and we see this movement. just like the movement of continents on the surface. that is, it is a very slow process from a human point of view. plus. i so -called one component - it's the processes that are called magnetic dynamo is really much more very confusing from a scientific point of view. and not all people scientists share the same understanding of how it works plus the need for the rotation of the earth around in order for these cycles to take place. e, descending ascending substances, revolved revolved.

we know that, for example. uh, if the earth rotates i don't know where to hold it. arrows, we know at what speed and where the core rotates and at what speed where the mantle rotates we know everything, but we have a rough idea, we still cannot measure the speed on the fifth nucleus and the rotation speed can, but we cannot fully predict the magnetic field, and the sum is the sum of these two movements creates the so-called magnetic dynamo effect and outside the earth we see such a field, as we say dipole , exactly the same as that of a permanent magnet, which means that in this sense, theoretically speaking, we all know a different matter. we can count. why can't we calculate this field? the fact is that this process is not constant and there is a so-called magnetic cycle, it breaks down and reappears for about 100,000 years. again compared to our lives. it's quite a lot, so they don't notice it. well, conditionally

speaking 100,000 years ago, well, in the next 1,000 years, in fact, this process takes place on the sun every 10 years. this is what we call the son of the solar activity cycle - this is exactly the same magnetic field in the sun, but it changes with a cycle of 10 years and the sun does not disappear anywhere, if the sun suddenly disappears, nothing bad will happen, but we have magnetic storms, when the sun has a solar maximum, it means all sorts of other troubles, and an interesting problem arises in the sun. we also know how that the sun rotates, that there is convection there. but when we are trying to predict how its magnetic field will be the sun in 10 years, how the solar cycle will behave, we are failing, therefore. uh, and wait, but we have an understandable from what, because all these shells have a metal core here too. well, you can say liquid. she is the sun. it's still not there. there is no core, but not the center of the eu nuclear reactor my reaction. let's get closer to the ground. let's get closer to the sun, just convenient

because it changes every 10 years. maybe that's a good question. what would be the best cycle? in 10 years for the next transfer. and by the way, yes, and uh against the backdrop of human life, this is a dream, this magnetic field is constant. but if we look at fossils, for example, at the bottom of the oceans, we can see how the earth's magnetic field changed its direction to the opposite, this happens just in a cycle of several hundred thousand years. it will just change north. south, the north will change south, all the magnets are being remade, but more on that. we will talk to you again, but for our future, so to speak, for our descendants. thank you why the sun has a magnetic field the earth has a magnetic field, but let's say the moon has a magnetic field oh no, if the magnetic field, do

i have it exactly? well, though, right? today, they said that it is. what does it depend on? well, the earth in this way has developed the conditions for the formation of a magnetic field in a special way. i can say that in the form in which we are observing now, as anatoly alekseevich said, and in the predominant dipole configuration. it was for the birth of the solid core of the earth that she activated that thermal convection itself and also compositional convection, about which anatoly alekseevich spoke, and another thing is that with the growth of e of the solid core e, the modes of magnetic field inversion changed, but this is in general, we will now leave the details, so to speak, from the moment of inception hard core field. eh, became predominantly dipole means, as noted earlier, indeed. here paleomagnetic dating tells us that the earth's magnetic field existed. well, at least 3.5 billion years, that is, in this way. here, the mechanism of e hydrodynamism is

functioned ever since. well , the most stable hypothesis that explains, and what happened before the formation of the fourth bucket of earth, tells us that there were responsible flows for this. and the molten silicates of silicate rocks e in the lower layers of the mantle, which, as was shown when heated to the appropriate temperatures, there are about 4-5.000 degrees at the appropriate pressures. well, their electrical conductivity grows, e conductivity and, accordingly, e, all the same mechanisms that are also in the geo-debate. but then the field was not de-field, it was multi-pole, and in general there is no magnetic field on the moon, because it simply does not exist, which means, firstly, but a very small core, that is, it makes up of the total mass. the moon is about five percent, while the core of the earth is about 30% of the total mass. further. there is little iron, respectively,

the responsibility for all these processes. and uh, the core has cooled down a lot and uh, there is no this differentiation into the liquid part, which means the liquid part, that is, mars until it cooled down at him. most likely a magnetic field as long as it had liquid and a core. yes, yes, it is quite possible, but mars in its mass is an order of magnitude less than the mass of the earth, and therefore, and in particular , by the way, the gravitational force there is less and this, by the way, was the reason. why did the atmosphere eventually blow away the atmosphere, which is quite likely not to happen to the earth even when there is a magnetic field. well, if you imagine that it will disappear to remain optimistic, yes in this matter. and how do we use the earth's magnetic field today well , that's understandable. yes, i showed the competition today, but if this is still pain magnets, it has some kind of energy, maybe somehow else it can be used. well.

firstly, humanity and life on earth in general use the earth's magnetic field without relatively without relatively our exercises from the compass for billions of years , life on earth uses the earth's magnetic field and it is believed that in the cells of the heads of some animals, in particular small magnets, there are small grains. here is the magnetic material that is somehow oriented. in fact, the earth's magnetic field protects us from cosmic radiation. and from galactic cosmic flares, where you have to hide, but in fact, it does not exactly disappear. here at 100%, it disappears by 30 percent, falls several times in size and humanity. in fact. we will not

survive if it suddenly disappears, but, for example, we will have to change our lifestyle, for example, not to fly into space. let's return to the question of the future well today, how we still use the earth's magnetic field. we everyone is accustomed to navigation, we have a navigator in our phone. we are accustomed to this phone compass absolutely the same principles of an electronic tape recorder, well, electronic or digital. that is, as if the task is so peculiar, it means, well, the earth's magnetic field, first of all, must be used for navigation and , first of all, it is used for civilian purposes, well, for special applications, because, well, everyone was faced with the fact that you stop by. there are no navigation satellites , the signal disappears, we don’t understand where we are, therefore, in the dungeon in the tunnel

one of the options to use is the earth's magnetic field, so we use it right now for all these things. yes, it is already in use. my navigator disappears, of course, you don’t have forgiveness, as they say, remember in a good movie you don’t have a marker for the wrong navigator model. yes , for which they use, which is needed there, well, there is a special navigator that integrates yes, at the same time both the navigation field from artificial earth satellites and the magnetic field to civilians is already available. uh, well usually not, 'til then no, not yet. well, this thing is quite, indeed, common for other applications, and we understand this, for which , therefore, the earth's magnetic field is now used very strongly uh, well, and what else besides navigation, probably medicine.

after all, the magnetic field heals us, well, the magnetic field is used when searching for mineral deposits, which are detected by exactly those anomalies by a magnet on the surface of the earth . on the right side of the deposit metal, which i really need. they, uh, also give a magnetic field, but the general magnetic field of the earth does not bother me to determine no, well, it ’s just, as one of the possible sources, of course, seismic exploration is also done, but to isolate some structures that have certain geophysical properties, the entire complex, methods and seismic seismic tomography. and in particular. e, means measurements of the magnetic field of the earth kursk magnetic broken. where iron ores are located there is a little bit of the earth's magnetic field

according to the magnetic field, measured more, if the precise instrument for changes very much. for example, i went there with a compass. well, i didn’t go on purpose with a compass, so to speak, but the compass behaves there, whatever you want to say , because there is such a relief of the earth there, there are such mountain pits, so to speak, and therefore on the mountain your comps shows that side, and in the pit it shows in a completely different direction, because at the north pole it shows at all, well, at the north magnetic pole, it's just upright arrows north geographic pole does not match north magnet. well, of course , you were told that how no is born, yes, an experiment from them. and about the fact that it was pricked , it seemed that e geographic magnetic they coincide. and when they crossed the middle of the atlantic ocean, it immediately turned out that they did not coincide much, so to speak, by 10 ° approximately on a slope, they also said today about medicine, in principle, the effect is used. one field, namely the earth's magnetic field, we both use the magnetic navigation of the earth's magnetic field in

medicine, so to speak, of course, uh, here the earth's magnetic field, it interferes generally speaking in medicine, so to speak, it interferes in medicine, because here we are, uh, i told you the order of magnitude, which, so to speak. well, there is a little more in the magnet, encephalography of magnetocardiography, so to speak, the order of magnitude of the disease is the earth's magnetic field there is millions of times less than the magnetic field in the atom in general, but it turns out billions of times more than the magnetic field generated by brains, yes, and in medicine we use in medicine. we use large enough fields in order to remove this field, so to speak, you need to do a workout. well, generally speaking, to plant a faraday cage, for example, well, it’s not quite a farade , so to speak, well , to put a person in such a metal chamber, where the magnetic field of the earth is. they will simply close on this metal. and you will sit inside, you will not feel this magnetic field. an elementary thing, but you can do it in a different way, you can simply remove

the constant field with devices, because the earth's magnetic field is constant, well, in this one it is constant, therefore, if we take the gradient of this gradient of this field, then it will be equal to zero from a constant value. it is equal to zero. and so, if you build magnetic gradiotometers, they will remove this magnetic field of the earth and then you can get the real true magnetic field that is produced. well, here already here, anything at all , the earth's magnetic field. uh, aleksandrovich didn't exist at all. correctly, i understand that the planet would not be alive at all. and what happened to us? well, imagine it this way. now, if at all there never was earth, it would not be the earth , as it were, but something else, we are not sitting here now, we are not discussing it. we can talk about how, let's say, life on earth developed in general, when the magnetic field, let's say, was much weaker there. yes or when does the polarity reversal take place? it is accompanied precisely by a decrease in the overall intensity of the magnetic field, but what happens? look for

polarity reversals. uh, the dipole field collapses, it turns into air. so look. and as you know, it means the last common ancestor. yes, all living things earth. he lived there about 4 billion years ago. here, uh, ever since. so it means something in biology. i, so to speak, and creatures on earth. they developed. nothing in this prevented them ; there were polarity reversals, which means a decrease, which means the field is there, which means his efforts, and so on, and somehow nevertheless to humanity. well , humanity has evolved. let's say. uh, here, uh, homo erectus yes, gomork, the one who lived there, that means two million years ago, yes, and if not more, too, somehow, so to speak, evolution. nerves and so on more than that, for example, i can say, but it is on such a large scale. now, if we talk about

some, yes, and he also experienced inversions of the magnetic e poles, and it seems that everything will be like this, it seems to be not bad. we live in a time of inversion, because every year this field moves about 50 km from the earth’s magnetic field for 50 km 50 km completely flees from canadian territory to russian territory and immigrates yes, and nothing happens. you don't see it, you don't feel it after all, it will be in siberia, yes, yes, but this can be interpreted. like an impending inversion. and there is another effect that was observed in the history of the earth, like magnetic excursions, there are excursions, when it seems that the poles begin to change places and are already moving out. there, let's say, forty-five degrees can go from the previous position, so to speak. the field can weaken there by 10 times. accordingly, the flow of radiation into the radiation background will increase there by two or three

times, and then everything is restored once and again, for example, 42,000 years ago and indeed. uh, there was an increase in van radiation. well, you see, it's so big. mystery. there is, of course, a certain hypothesis, but, but as far as life is concerned, for example, e. this so-called lochamp digression is associated, for example , in particular with the extinction of the neanderthals, so to speak, but at the same time, the parallel branch of the cro-magnon man, which is ours, they turned out to be more genetic bites than this, which means that the radiation flow survived. that is, this suggests that it is possible, in us, too, here some sort of defense mechanism is in place. and if we talk about the future, let's say, but even if the magnetic field is the future let's talk after advertising on ntv you crossed the line your son sleeps and sees when you die my son us, either

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on the air, we teach a program and a program about how science will change our lives, in the next 10 years in 10 years we will learn how to control the earth's magnetic field sergey appolonovich. well, birds have already been mentioned in particular. yes, which may have small ones there, magnets are built in, and they are guided by the earth's magnetic field. i also know that, for example, uh turtles during migration. yes, they also use the earth's magnetic field e, to move in space, but what discoveries in the field of studying the magnetic field for humans? do you foresee the next 10 years, or do we already know everything. of course not, we we know very little actually so why don't we have anything built in? no, the point is that, of course, everyone has something constructive, so to speak, because. well, what are small magnets small magnets - these are not just, so to speak, pieces of iron. and these are

atoms, the same atoms and molecules that make up any living thing. a being , including a person, is another matter that in individual individuals, for example, in reptiles, so to speak , the advantages of, say, a magnetic moment due to drag. uh, the structures of the atom, it may be that they have a magnetic moment more pronounced, than so to speak there, well , a normal homo sapience has it there or and so on, maybe or here in the same birds. well, magnetism is generally the essence of an essentially quantum phenomenon, so to speak, when we talk about a quantum computer, we will talk exclusively about magnetism, or almost completely so, uh, biology and uh, medicine. these are the main consumers of the magnetic field, which, so to speak, will help us improve the state of life of our future life, in general, a person. you mean. uh, the future. that's why you need to study the magnetic field and take those needs that the earth's magnetic field can provide to a person. well then sergey

ivanovich then. what technologies need to be developed so that we can already take from the magnetic field? so we want to be able to manage it already. well, your question is just to the point, because in order to still understand how we can use it further and what else awaits us there when studying the magnetic field, we must learn how to measure it very accurately. so here i am i absolutely agree with my colleague. we are now on the threshold of great scientific changes in the field of the use of quantum effects, including e for measuring the magnetic field, that is, very precise instruments will appear in the near future. somehow with the help of which we will measure the magnetic field very accurately. by the way, this is, uh, actually what we once discussed, these are high-precision frequency standards, if you use them differently, do not shield them from the magnetic field, but rather, watch how the frequency changes from removing the magnetic field, we get

mutual processing effects. we can measure the magnetic field with very, very high accuracy, as soon as we learn how to measure the exact magnetic field. we still do not understand what will actually open before us with the earth's magnetic field with the human magnetic field. after all , as you asked if a person has a magnetic field, it probably does, but we can’t measure it accurately at all with just a device. no, we cannot feel. so now there is quantum magnetometry. well, which allows us to look into the future. that is, we can say that i will walk around the house, as with a thermometer, and i will be able to measure it. what kind of magnetic pain does this child have here? and maybe it will give me something, maybe from the point of view. the point is that it will give me much more. well, not that much more, but everyone, for example, knows what it means to say so. cardiogram yes , an electrical cardiogram that measures an electrical coordinate. it measures electric fields from, let's say, from the heart, which is so say it works in some way. oh , but the fact is that e conducts an electric

current not only the heart of the muscle of the skin and that's it. the rest is therefore, when you measure an electrocardiogram, we generally do some kind of average temperature in the hospital. but the magnetic fields are much smaller in the human body. only blood carries the magnet. well , blood is a flow of electrons, which, as we have already found out, has an electromagnetic field. if we can isolate the magnetic component from there, then we will be completely know exactly what is going on humble body. and the same with encephalography, that is, magnets in holography. this is much more efficient than uh, electroencephalography. that is, if we learn to measure correctly and well. magnetic fields in our body, then we will be able to determine much earlier if someone has some kind of illness. yes, the pathology of the disease and so on unexpectedly. i have heard that technology is developing now. here's an electrocardiogram. and there is, uh,

cardiography magnet technology that allows it is precisely to measure magnetic fields using the so-called squid magnetometers , which are super sensitive, which are capable of recording such weak useful useful ones, and i more precisely determine it more precisely, and most importantly, it allows you to more accurately localize some areas. so to say exactly the valve or something else that is. yes, yes, not so cardiograph and created in our institute. and they are in several moscow clinics. feel free to go there and measure. yes , absolutely manage it all the same. look here. here this is our beautiful apple around the earth . and magnetic fields look so big. yes, these go somewhere to send a celestial object. this is a planetary e-e structure on a planetary scale by planetary processes. so far, we cannot manage a person, one can imagine. they said everything

has long been theoretical problems, we take theoretical problems solved. uh, a runoff loop around the earth at the equator. so, well, we are launching there just a couple of million amperes of current in another part of the world and launching another thing that we cannot yet million, but let it go around the earth, and it will die out. well, in such only such such a current strength, you cannot create. so we can transfer these connections to a high-voltage line. this is the limit of human dreams. this is a few hundred amperes of current transmitted for a couple of thousand kilometers. but you need to create millions of amperes at the equator - this is a 40,000 km field, no, and then, if we create such a one, he will completely overpower the earth, he will create, uh, a model field, either double or begin to destroy the earth's magnetic field well, you understand that somehow

use it is useful. well, to transfer something somewhere, maybe on a magnetic cushion, but this is not the earth's magnetic field, it is the magnetic field of two magnets that move relative to each other, after all. let's not confuse the earth's magnetic field with the magnetic field of all other objects. they are no worse than the earth for every object. there is a magnetic field. here is the magnetic field. it is everywhere. it's in electric motors. it means it is used, so there are no questions here, not only in the compass, the earth's magnetic field is another matter, but here already. sorry, while all the forces are not enough . eh, really, it means there were plots such that we cannot change the earth's magnetic field , we can shake it a little. yes, yes, and see what happens. the fact is that from the magnetic field in the earth's magnetic field. here are those beautiful ears, where there is a full field, which are outside the earth, there are radiation belts that prevent satellites from living. there is

such a beautiful theory that the lifetime of satellites decreases in some orbits. satellites cannot be located at all, because because that protons are electrodes that they live through in these in this magnetic field of the earth. well then i have a question in our guests an optimistic skeptic. shake the magnetic field. okay, let's not, but uh, remembering the reversal of the magnetic poles, but in general, the earth's magnetic field might just disappear tomorrow. here we have it disappeared and no one knows what to do with it. science is generally ready for this, but the fact is that magnetic dynamos and all these processes are very inert. and here's an instant disappear, of course the magnetic field will not be able to, it will be very long . the process is incomprehensible, well, respectively, that is, it is there for thousands of years. yes, that is , first of all. well, what, so to speak, is the most dangerous of all, this, of course, is the radiation , about which they spoke, well, perhaps humanity is already evolving by that time, so that it

will not care further, even if it instantly disappears, everything -the same, the earth has a strong enough gravitational field in order to preserve and continue to hold the atmosphere. so the atmosphere itself is a good such screen. e in relation, it means that the radiation further is the nosphere, that is, uh, the solar streams, ionizing the nosphere, will somehow lead to the generation of currents of magnetic fields, but it will also be a kind of such. here is a shower, the magnetic shell is such an alternative magnetosphere, here, and, of course, it will suffer most of all. uh, hardware, yes there electronics but then again there are satellites located at the grunge lacquer point, which are under the nip-continuous flow of the solar wind. and i think this can be technically solved somehow. here, creating only special protection will not. and so we will calculate. and

, of course, those very birds there, fish fry that orient themselves strongly, will receive, but over the past 150-200 years , the earth's magnetic field has decreased by about 10%. and we are now with you at the stage when the earth's magnetic field it is really decreasing, how fast, well, that's really 10% in 150 years. what is it connected with? well , i think colleagues. yes, there may be a conversation, there may be a situation, there may be something else, but if the earth's magnetic field decreases, it is clear that the earth is more bombarded by particles. it is clear that there are more differences, which means, well, the atmosphere should warm up and that's it. the rest of the earth should be warming up, so the effects of climate change are warming the climate, but i think that one of the reasons here may be related to the decrease in the earth's magnetic field, so all

our groans all our groans about the fact that we are burning co2 there. well, i beg your pardon, we burn it from here, two will be formed there and that's it. that is, it is quite possible. yes many parametric task. and i think that, uh, it's hard to single out what is the reason for this, but the earth's magnetic field is now at the stage where it really , as you rightly say, is a periodic process. we are in the process of decreasing further. it might speed up. maybe go the other way. well, we really need to come to terms with what we have now where it will go. well, they are at intervals of thousands and tens of thousands of years. come on, it's not for the lifetime of one generation, but still 10% in 150 years. this very comfortable enough. this is a lot. clearly nowhere advertising, probably ntv what is behind this sign? and now we're going to

the lab. these, probably, springs can be used as motors for delivering medicines on the horseshoe of the famous flea and fit in more than 150 pieces. and what ferromagnetic alloys do you use billions of rubles to update the scientific base and the birth of new stars in science science and universities are what is important here and now. on the air is a science program about how our lives will change in the next 10 years in 10 years we will teach everything to control the earth's magnetic field. well, in order to still find out whether this will happen or not, dear skeptics, i have a question for you. what is the probability, in your opinion, that we will still learn how to control the earth's magnetic field by sergey pavlovich if you have a forecast, if i am an optimist, i must answer and put it all. therefore, so to speak,

51% respond positively. even directly large, but it is more than half of 51%. thanks a lot. anatoly alexandrovich, do you have a forecast of what probability we will learn after all to control the earth's magnetic field, well, you know , to control, if everything is uh, in the sense of influencing, then in the next 10 years. this, of course, is impossible, because imagine this impact, it should be, but in a comparable way, let's say, with the power that allows you to change. uh, in the parameters of the earth's rotation yes, which actually generate the forces of a realist, and which, in general, are, so to speak, here , uh, well, naturally, the source of the generation of the magnetic field, and in this respect, what have we achieved for humanity. we know that here in 2022. we have learned. hardly change trajectory means movement. well, if we talk about celestial bodies, and an asteroid with a diameter of less than a kilometer, when it means that, uh,

this was carried out, it means a purposeful change in the trajectory of the asteroid, huh? the morph that means with the asteroid ddm form such a bunch, and they mean rotate one around the other. so you know, this is a dimorph asteroid. it means that it changed its orbital period around the second asteroid to 36 minutes there, in my opinion, that's where we are now, and what can we say about the earth, which has a radius of more than 6.000 there km, zero, zero. thank you sergey ivanovich, you have a forecast. how likely is it at the beginning to define concepts as what we mean by hmm is the absolutely magnetic field of the earth? i think that in 10 years we will clearly not learn how to control it. this is practically zero

probability. after all, it is a local magnetic field locally over certain areas of the earth's surface. i think that with a probability of almost 100%, in 10 years we will learn how to change this field with a probability of 100%, for different tasks and for practical human application. well, for the destruction of man. i think it's a good purpose better. yes, well, i think that the local field of the earth is locally necessary for certain areas, we can change it with a probability of 100% agree 100%. thanks a lot. anatoly alekseevich let's shake the planet. with what probability we will be able to control the magnetic field of the earth's magnetic field? i think 20 percent i will give