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trust in the quality of nutrition, if the idea of a healthy diet is already giving its result. our lives for the next 10 years. i am vladimir antokhin. i am ekaterina shuvaeva in 10 years, science will explain how the universe arose; finally, he wants the universe to figure it out, so i invited optimists who believe that in 10 years science will really explain how the universe arose. this is alexei fedorov , physicist good evening and mikhail sachkov , astrophysicist. hello good evening me traditionally visiting skeptics. this is nikolai kalachevsky physicist good evening and andrey yastrebov history katya culture. good evening. good evening at the end of the program our guests and optimists will make a prediction how, in 10 years, science will explain how the universe arose what is the universe , professor kapustin argues for the first time , the term denoting the inhabited world was invented by
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the ancient greeks and called this inhabited world ecumene well, probably everyone has read the book on the blood of the men. but to explain what ecumene is, what the universe is is very, very difficult, the simplest answer to the question. a what is the universe? the universe is not our everything. in general, everything. all of us. the entire globe of the planet and the stars of the nebula. dark matter is all of the universe. and then a much more important question immediately arises. and what is outside the universe, what is beyond its boundaries, and in general, can such boundaries exist? i didn't believe in infinity, i can't imagine it. you know how everything is with me, everything should definitely be here in the kitchen. here is the house here the children are here personal question. do you believe in
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the big bang theory at all? also not, but somehow i haven’t heard any other theory, no one has suggested , you have to believe, i’m more likely yes than no. uh, but there are plenty of other theories that i hope we'll talk about today. i hope andrey lenitsky why do people suddenly think about the origin of the universe here, professor kapustin spoke about ikome, but this is a little different, this is not uh, the whole universe is the space that you perceive as your own, that is, space, in thought, in spirit, in language, and so on. this space has some kind of border beyond this border they live. uh, people with feather heads. that's who go generally upside down . here is the universe - this is much more and i, if we were talking about the greeks, of course, here we need to introduce the concept of space space, as order space as an antagonist of chaos, here, well, to me as a humanitarian and more precisely, as a person who has well, i would like to believe in humanitarian. e thinking. i would
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like. quite a bit about something else to say, not even about ikumen, not about everything, a about the origin of, uh, the universe that i know warmly and closely, i’ll start with a small novelty. e, the writer, he is a duther's dream or e, he had a rock-mole adventure novel and finally this hero got tired of our e writer, and he decided to drown him, drown him in the middle of the big ocean. they shackled him in his big cage with some kind of iron and drowned everything, he went to the depths of almost the mariana trench. well, the publishers and readers persuaded the duserve plan to revive this hero and everyone argued in general how to revive him? well there there were some moments that were invented there to save our hero, there some i don’t know smart dolphins or something else, some such ichthyandrous things. here everyone was waiting for the continuation of this novel, you know, and over the surface of the ocean, and the lonely seagull suddenly appeared
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with a more cancerous head and and powerfully there, with powerful convulsions, he swam to the shore, and charm. eh, yes, that's all. you understand what's the matter, there is no singularity here. you understand what's the matter. so i want to pronounce the word singularity i really want to and then set off into some astrophysical reflections in general about it. i think that others will do it without me, namely specialists in singularity and astrophysics and physics. you see, i don't need it. cause. i remember a wonderful song that always convinced me. and you want a reason, here's a reason for you, you are my woman. i'm your man, that's it, here it is a system of evidence, in general , what is correct the big bang theory itself is not needed for the emergence, because there is me satisfied at the beginning there was a word and the word was with god and the word was god you you understand, all this suits me why, but because i don’t know how, just concentration. all the best of the most
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thinking. universe i don't want to just go to the other world. i don't know anything like there, and therefore , you understand, i want at least some meaningfulness in polev's religion, although regardless of the fact that he was a poet, there was a very good formula. i am completing the anthropomorphism, capable only of anthropomorphism. i'm too anthropos. i am too anthropomorphic at the same time and therefore i would like to there was some human dimension and not only in my life, but also in my death. really. i want some kind of measurement, so i think people are always looking to understand, and as a result, how people's ideas about the origin of the universe have changed . well, of course, i will support my colleague here, but creationism. eh, and this is a very interesting direction of thought, because religions perceived the outside world in different ways, and in fact, people, of course, thought not only of the micro habitat, that is, but i was in
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a big braid. really ancient greeks perfectly measured the distance to the moon almost measured the distance to the sun, if you remember e not only the new cherished old testament. yes, and god created the heavens and the earth, yes, and the land was formless empty and darkness over the abyss and the spirit of god hovered over the water. yes, then god said. let there be light and there was light. this, by the way, is very reminiscent of the process of the birth of the universe in a sense, because at first there was no light. he was chained in plasma there, then the light appeared later, that is, it was such a rather complicated process. and if we take, for example, the hindu also mythology and not collecting, by the way, the great physicist, he did not admire hindu mythology, because uh, probably, they came closest to the physical model of the universe that we have today they had a cyclic e, cyclic development of the universe day brahma.
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brahmas, uh, they walked in circles, yes, the interval actually , that is, they almost hit them, the age of the universe was this cicycle of the universe 8 billion years on our scale, the confirmed age of the universe is 13.8 billion years and in fact. here it is the development of human thought. it is extremely interesting from a cultural point of view and cannot be ignored. it is not necessary to think that we have begun to understand something since the moment of the general theory of relativity, because human thought. she was in search all the time, but really einstein wrote his equations and wrote in a sense an excusable knee then put a lambda member who did not know what to do with it. yes, the so-called here, and then ours is actually very interesting with an interesting fate. e aleksandrovich fridman, colleague , physicist s. well, he was not a physicist, he was more like a mathematician of st. petersburg. he solves the equation and realized that there are a bunch of so -called non-stationary solutions. that is, that some kind of life, that we are still used
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to everything. mankind still perceived the universe as something unshakable. yes, nothing changes, that here are the stars. yes, they are moving, well, more precisely, the earth is moving there, the solar system, but all this is unshakably infinite and constant, and he showed that in fact there may be such a movement and then the french meter. uh, sam having confirmed his research in general, uh, observations have already begun observations. that is, hubble saw that the universe is spreading in spectrum by spectrum. e atoms, it's really such a strong reliable confirmation. here is further. actually, the idea appeared that the universe came from some point, and it was such a phase transition. moreover, both of these physicists have completely different fates. it would seem that one white other in russia both actually went through the first world war war fought in battles, one e in the aviation troops, the other as an artilleryman of experience. let's say
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the result. after the end of their here are such complex cycles in life. here are such brilliant thoughts 22-27 right the year of the last century. well, then the next such step. this, probably, is better told by colleagues optimists. this is the seventies-eighties inflation model, because the big bang model turned out to be imperfect, but i'm talking about this somehow, probably, in general, it seems to me that over time the general theory of relativity. we are like once and ceased to want to understand something. let's stop advertising on ntv happy birthday, happy anniversary thank you very much for one birthday already. well, you're all right. yes. but if this very day coincides with a concert, who is it
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really a holiday. thanks a lot. valeria throws herself lightly in the arms of artists when they make some kind of joint song for good. to the anniversary of valeria on saturday at 0:45 a housekeeper at margulis on ntv , the science and we program is on air, a program about how science will change our lives in the next 10 years in 10 years, science will explain how the universe, here we have already mentioned the big bang theory today. and what other main theories of the origin of the universe exist today? and why until now scientists have not come to a consensus, it means the beginning, and here is the fact that
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the universe at first, scientists, in principle, is not very happy with this, and all further e work went to ensure that we have not only an infinite future, but also there would be no infinite past emergence, that is , there would be no emergence, as if it were not, so that it would always be periodic. yes i will try now tell. so among the numerous theories, they all still revolve around the big bang theory. here we will depict it there, so to speak conditionally there, yes or a big bang. big bang, yes, and there are those who don't need a big bang, no. yes, there are those who develop these big bang ideas. well, there are those who, let's call them that way , can be which, in principle, implies that the big bang could be from the theory,
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which do not need a big bang. this is the first. naturally, the theory said, are you the universe is, but it was and will be as it is, if you depict space, yes, in the past, the future, here are two points of space here we have the past there the future. here it is developing, something like this, uh, the second theory, which is also not needed, but a big one yes, because there is such a time here and zero this is the past. it's right there. yes, this is the universe that has always existed and will always exist. here is the second idea - this is the idea of a plasma universe, this is here, uh, swede, and who said that there was no big bang, but the main idea is it was such that not gravity explains everything, as in fact in all other theories, but explains all the electromagnetic interaction more than matter. matter, here they interact with each other it is they who
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explain the emergence of planets and stars, and e , it means that this is the theory of the plasma universe yes, matter antimatter. well, more questions for her. in fact. you don’t even understand anything about m. you understand the theory, i’ll say a little later. so, now about those who develop, that is, they kind of develop ideas big explosions. this, of course, is the theory of uh chaotic chaotic, and in the past and in the future, yes in the past and in the future, it expanded, but uh, in our particular in our particular e universe, it kind of stopped this expansion. yes, but in some place it continues to expand, and then it will arise in some other sense, and we have such a reference point the multiverse implies that and our universe with a big bang, yes , expand, then collapsed back to
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a point again, then expanded again and our big bang again. well, let's call it ours there conditionally. yes, this is one of the chains, and it was, uh, infinitely in the past and will be infinite in the future, there is a whole set of uh theories that allow ah. well, as if the fact that our universe is not three-dimensional, but multidimensional 11 peaceful of which a 11d universe yes of which, uh, the eleventh space. this is the eleventh coordinate this is the time where they got it from and in it we have a 11 is all mathematical mathematical can not cope with less. colleagues would simply say that this is any theory - this is not just fabrications on sofas about how all this could be understood. it works coffin work. e calculations mathematical rigorous mathematical calculations that require confirmation of observations. so here it means, the eleventh time is why 11, because if the universe were 12 and 15 dimensional, it
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would still collide in 11 peaceful time, as calculations show, therefore 11 is for the universe is such a stable number. so in this eleven-dimensional universe, let's call our three-dimensional universes that are separated by one more space. and no, as if we can’t say anything about a friend of the universe about them. but we can feel it in the moment when i don't face. and so, when i do not collide , we observe something similar to the big bang. here, and here the development of these theories is possible. eh, when these unfinished third ones are here now now, when these are not here, when these theories, uh, when they excuse these universes at the door and they can collide intermittently collided dispersed collided dispersed and we observe periodically large explosions. yes, it's a great book. we call the fantazer. from the university of heidelberg, yes, er,
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that means a person who is actually engaged in big bang theories, but apparently to troll all the other scientists or to give. eh, as if the ground for reasoning for this is offered by the idea, generally speaking, of a frozen universe, and even a universe that does not expand, but vice versa, soups up. yes, and i repeat once again, he is working on this theory himself. yes, he put forward this idea so that everyone would think about it and try to refute it, because it also explains the world. she explains to the world that, uh, our elementary particles gain their mass with time. this is actually cybernetics cybernetic mass and this can be explained, and this is the expansion, which in fact is not, well, which are the visible expansion . technology today? we need to understand how the universe originated. we have recently
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witnessed a large number of scientific discoveries, and i would say that the central aspect, in general, is such a deep scientific understanding. and it became the fact that we realized that in order to understand how the universe works, it is not enough to look at very large scales. you also need to understand what happens on very small scales, so when we actually assume an explanation of how the world works on very small scales, and it is very large scales, that is, particle accelerators . this is also what we use , and moreover, just like that, yes, it is some form of matter for which it bends yes, which also bends, thereby explaining our gravity in recent times. again, we have come to yet another realization that we need to study a very complex system. that is, in addition to big and small, you need to study something very complex, when the number of options in the course of calculations grows very quickly, yes, and therefore we are helped today by supercomputers and future quantum computers are also a tool for understanding the universe. therefore, indeed, technologies are making a decisive
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contribution in order to start from the first world, then a huge amount of data that we can compare, how true. some theories, how much other theories need improvement , really answer the question of how our physical picture of the world works. it seems to me that intellectual achievement is also very important. this is an attempt to go beyond the four-dimensional space and time, and to formulate the concepts of the theory string theory, brane is a very beautiful idea in theory, 11 a very beautiful idea, as if imagine that we as humanity live on such a beautiful canvas of multidimensional space and that also required effort. awareness to go beyond what we are used to and what we are able to feel, what we are able to see. well, let's be specific about the theory of the big bang, never nikolayevich that's still the first person who suggested that something exploded. who was it? and what ended up blowing up? well if, probably, to be honest, it was probably still a lumir, yes, in the twenty-seventh year,
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which actually formulated that if the universe starts to report back time, then we should come to some kind of what you called a singularity. that's what it all came into being from a point of infinite temperature with uh infinite density. again, only infinite. it's not very clear. and worse than that, let's say so , too, because. it is not complete, it turns out that if we start creating such a mathematical model and we start to see how it will develop. well, when scientists started counting more accurately, it turned out that the universe was expanding too fast in the beginning and, uh, too uniform. that is, if we assume that everything is slowly gone. at the speed of light, they began to scatter, there are photons of particles, we would not be sitting here today. i am somehow different, so the first means an instant of the development of the universe , it had to expand, and at a speed, in my opinion, 10/26 degrees of the speed of light. that is, that, well, in a good way, they say, today's laws
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physics. it's just trite they forbid that, well , you can't move at a speed higher than the speed of light, nothing material can move at such speeds, therefore , several conflicts arise here. although check it out. unfortunately, this is, uh , experimental, because here is alexey konstantinovich. the fact is that the area of energy in which we are trying to look into she is a monster, therefore the big bang theory. it raises this question. the second second point of criticism of the big bang theory on my part that has been put forward. this is true called mortal symmetry. in fact. we are all made of matter. and we are used to it, but if we assume that the universe has passed through the radiative phase, that is, when there were photons photon two photons should give an element of matter antimatter two photons positron electron proton antiproton-tomen antimion, and there are much more antiseparated antigalaxies. yes, humanity
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was looking for them very intently, that is, many space missions and ground missions were aimed to see some echoes of large accumulations of antimatter. well in in general, we can draw a line today and say that there is actually no antimatter in the universe. and where did she go? and why no one knows the antimatter is practically non-existent. although it would seem this model should be very symmetrical. that is what we see in haladers. we collide two photons. we are born, symmetrical two particles material antimaterial and attempts. andrey dmitrievich sakharova is there to explain it. they are yet. well, in my opinion, not all satisfactory, that is convincing. theories why us such a symmetry arose in the world of her, uh, no, this is the first call, so to speak, which , uh, well, the big bang theory, in a sense. maybe shake the second one. this, of course, is what you mentioned dark matter. so, yes, what is dark matter? we are watching distant galaxies. we see the stars, we see the speed, we can measure
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the speed of these stars from astronomical observations. we can appreciate. e is the mass of e, visible matter in the center of the galaxy by the glow, but the stars move faster. well , not as expected, that is, somehow in a strange way, that there is evidence that there is still some kind of mass there, what kind of mass it is, while humanity does not know where it came from and why it is there. i hope that we will gradually come to this, just as we are now using the word black hole, we operate quite normally. well, it's been confirmed. there, gravitational waves are the day of a black hole, everyone has already seen, all of humanity in fact. yes, well, that is, if look, honestly, there were 20 years ago. this is also a mathematical structure, we didn’t have any reliable experimental evidence that this is precisely such a schwarzled object that absorbs light into itself and does not release it. well, it didn’t happen, andrey leonidovich, what culture tells us, what eventually exploded, so physicists do not meet
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cultures for us, he says, the center of the earth, because the center of the earth is empty. here it is hollow and the badger moves with its paws it moves the whole universe. do you understand this one of the versions, which is no different from the ancient greek, ancient indian ancient egyptian and so on myths, uh, in an accessible form, persinified , tells us what came out of what and what the whole thing came to. you understand, because we need artistic fantasy in order to have all these well, let's just say all this ignorance of photons, antimatter, of course, of course, you see these words, for example, i feel myself here with such a representative. here are the townsfolk, that is, i i feel like a representative from the audience, because the smart guys argue that
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we will not mind him at all. er, never available is par for the course. you understand what it is, it’s simple, but everyone does their own thing and everyone looks at the world and at himself from the point of view of his profession, or i don’t know the craft there or i don’t know any preferences there. that's why it is interesting for the inhabitants to understand how it is, you will never understand. why did you start a program about the fact that you do not understand what infinity is, ask any of these guys. they quickly explain to you what infinity is, going up to the board to you, i don’t know any next formula, and we have the representation of infinity , this is the next room and now there is no wall. they are in that room where the walls are, and here in that room there is no wall, and that's it. we will pronounce this magic spell there phrase, but one and a half million times. it's no longer a wall. we are still with the position of the limbs from the limitations of this world. we analyze all
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physical laws, and therefore we know i don't know five or six formulas from physics there. they are enough for us in general for life why, but because we have never used them correctly and that's it. during menstruation, it may be together what's the matter, when i breathe, in general, i don't wonder what i'm sewing on and how i'm decomposing. or oxygen is grafted there or something, when i jump, i don't think about gravity. i think about the beauty of my irs, which are such a great help in general. i understand physics in my jump. otherwise , we jumped with you, but we will take off with point of view of gravity and say, i'm looking at something wrong, in general, and your weak games will be in order to fulfill the dream of mankind. yes, and their hands are not the same, the scale and springiness and strength, and they see all this and thanks to them that they somehow still
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bring our presence, both mine and our viewers. i would be here a little counter physics still look from the point of view of the x-ray. if, god forbid , something happens to the tibia, i'll have to do something, but i can't help but jump during the big bang critics, because the critics. uh, big big bang. sometimes they just criticize the terms themselves, being adherents of the big big bang, that is, the term explosion, it is wrong, it is not because the explosion is destruction. well, what are you listening to, but in the universe they actually called it an explosion, it’s called a bang. the creation of the universe is here, so here we are talking correctly translated correctly translated we translated the big boom, like the big bang. here, as i think , the creation of which is the delusion of the universe in general, an explosion. no, there are no walls, but advertising is advertising on ntv creativity there is a variety
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of artistic applied creative research from april 21 to 26, saratov 22nd youth delphic games of russia creativity is always a competition. on the air is a program about how science will change our lives in the next 10 years, in 10 years science will explain how the universe arose well, or try to do it never say, why is science lacking? what technical? may be? uh, to explain, after all, how the universe arose , well, uh, to a large extent, alexei already mentioned where we are trying to look, so that, well, to confirm some of our ideas, look we are looking for a certain bottom in elementary particles. and the elementary particle is inexhaustible. well , we won’t find, we won’t find a single smallest particle, no matter how many times we look, that it’s endless,
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that we love, that we love, uh, gerak, there was such a great physicist as a leader. he was in fact, mathematics absolutely man's thoughts his task was to combine. uh, quantum mechanics and a special prison, relativity all of that he was sitting in front of the fireplace and uh. combined combined and wrote equation dirac equation it is written in the form of four symbols there, which turn out to describe. in general , experimentally confirmed there to the twelfth decimal place describes a large piece of our world. it's just this amazing property of nature. that it is possible to write a short formula that describes a large piece of just, well, just that world in which we live. that 's what, uh, today we discussed the eleven-dimensional space, and that's all, some kind of mathematical models, and we are now trying to experimental data that we see well some sense or test the theory. i'd rather be for testing the theory, because i'm a materialist.
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i am a person who likes to observe, uh, the gravitational redshift behind the receding galaxy, it's interesting behind the collision of particles, therefore, these tools are in order to and the closer, the more accurate we are all in this world, the more correct, one might say, so number one number three doesn't work here. remains in doubt number five, we generally forgot that he existed. this is very difficult to do in the case of the theory of the origin of the universe, because we really have to get some monstrous energies closer to them. i can also say an interesting area of research, which alexei did not mention. this is not only a collider, but also a very sensitive measurement in laboratories. this is actually the study of gravitational waves, extremely sensitive - it's like such an extremely sensitive microphone that hears directly. here is the whisper of the universe yes, and here are some methods that allow i don’t know how to measure the radius of the proton there, very thin moments, again, the same herak, which was of interest. there is such a letter,
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called alpha yes, constantly fine structure, it is one hundred and thirty-seventh a wonderful number without size, and he wondered. and where did it all come from? why is it the main thing that determines all electromagnetic interactions in our world? is this the number? why in general, it is known that if it was there alone, i don’t know, we have a hundredth half of the elements in the periodic table , a person would have collapsed there, so as not to existed, that is, this alpha does not change. and this is the research question. here are the little ones. uh, possible small shifts here are the effects. yes, here are these unknown quantities that we can easily appeal to today. they are in all school textbooks. excuse me, we take mine from the table. there are schoolchildren. it's all using mass ratios of electronic masters. proton one there is 2.000. why is there one two-thousandth why is there not one five-thousandth no one can answer this question, in principle, and here is an attempt to feel there, too, in fact, oddly
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enough, it leads to this story with an eleven-dimensional universe, there are these projects. that is, it is also connected with us there, so it seems to me that we are developing in this direction, a person is developing successfully, but this is a slow process. the tools are gone now. hubble came james web. yes, there, uh, now it will leave, a big huge collider. i don't know what will take its place. can we still be there? well, there, you still need an order of energy in order for something see new. well, to see this, of course, to see it all, it's probably interesting, especially if you also feel it. yes , but still, what practical application will knowledge about the origin of the universe give us , why do we need it? yes, to show, uh, and in the continuation of the first nikolai nikolayevich there is a position on technology, what we need in addition to the fact that we are looking at the micro-paradise of the world , we still need to look at the makers. that is,
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as an astronomer. we need to look and, uh, the depths of the depths of the universe yes, and we are the most the main thing is to watch. here is now a working spektrg project, and before that , a radio astron worked. this is the institute of nikolai nikolaevich there is a brainchild. ospreys launched by us into space and now working successfully, working. and why do they need to run there from here to watch? yes, absolutely right. here and here is a project that is ready to be prepared next spectralilwad. they let us, uh, look into the lice universe. yes, but the border, of course, uh, as if not the essence of fundamental knowledge. eh, this is fundamental knowledge. yes but practical the payoff from them is what we u get along the way, that is, here we are building telescopes, and we are developing technologies for us to create, uh, the best mirror. we need to create the best reflective coatings for what we
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do. for us for life. here are specific examples. we have nikolai nikolaevich and you have his project, when we develop the best, we develop the best mirror. we develop the best coating, and the best coating for this mirror, it turns out, needs laser technology and in rusatami it is in demand, yes, it turned out. so here are our stands demanded by rosatom aleksey konstantinovich good, yes, but then but then, if we understand how the universe arose, it turns out, then we will understand how it will end. and that in our country only cockroaches will survive after this joyful information. okay, well, yes, that's it, in all theories, in the end , everything. well, except for the stationary one. yes, here it seems to me, as if it is at first, yes, and the end, which again the beginning or the beginning of a new stage, because
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indeed sometimes, when we try to describe some scientific things in everyday words, we really imagine something in ourselves, we say infinity, we imagine endless rooms. likewise, the end. we can imagine one thing, but in reality it will happen. completely different, for example, the moment of the end of one cycle. nikolaevich mentioned the fact that it does not have a certain meaning gives hope that there really is some kind of order. so we can see this order predict and answer the question. but was there a beginning, and will there be an end and what is, what is meant by the beginning, what is meant by the end, given that it is quite possible that we are talking about, but a much more complex picture than what we used to think andrey lenivich, how scary find out what's here we know what was the beginning of the big bang. and how scary it is to know what will be the end of course you know, i looked at these spectra and i was rather disappointed. uh, disappointed evolution the leader of the first was r. spector. then spectrum rg and you know this
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final, fatigue spectrum fuf here, you know, such things somehow confuse me, and in this i see some kind of, let's say, a sign, and some romantic doom of the doom of what is happening no, i really listen with great interest, really, i listen with great attention. i am trying with great effort to understand what i am listening to and i am sure that 90% of the viewers and your program. they don’t understand these guys, unless , of course, there are sure to be craftsmen, here, who will generally figure everything out with delight each of us is hidden. behind some kind of mask that gives him the right to some existence. i hid under this humanitarian mask, like oh no, i don't get it. okay, this is not about me. i understand squalor in general, i do not know the liberal arts. although why not
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they are not enough. here is a planar image of the world. i look at these bears in the forest. you understand, i am looking at this black square. and i understand everything. more precisely i you understand, in what business. here, when they talk about 20 cunts, a swearing. yes, yes, there are 15. yes, they are. are narrowing. yes, a dozen would be enough for me. do you understand, or there were dozens at all. yes? you understand me, i have enough of one plane, which i do not know, after all. yes, i am. you know what's the matter, here, uh, the conversation is about culture and philosophy. they are thought in general categories. and these are like this. that is, as far as i'm just speculating. in this, for example, yes, but what about the clue or the big bang theory or the big bang? i don’t know there, whatever you like there from the militaristic plane. translate to some children's toys. it doesn't matter how much it is well, let's say it will be useful for a person. i'm not talking about utilitarian
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utility. as far as it will be, for example, useful for me in order to understand, what is the meaning of blessing, in general, my zanussi one second and the thing occupied there is 3.000. he meets a man meets god and asks. and tell me, please, what is the purpose of believing in general in my life? what is the meaning of life and the lord, answers him, remember you were asked to pass e, salt, e, at the table and you conveyed all this fulfilled his life mission. i understand perfectly well that there is some kind of trick here. here in this, like, yes, the humanities are called. we are there, like, well, what a culture, here are the physicists of mathematics he thinks everything is fine, but look at the seventh and that's it, well, you can do something with this, those who practically check we know, we can step generally beyond these forms and fantasize something like that outside of one thing, as you can see, we want answers to these questions. we have been creating them since childhood. what is time? where is she for the chain 20 per ent? there is a program
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on science and a program on how science will change our lives in the next 10 years, optimists and skeptics. i have a beautiful question for you. how likely is science to explain the origin of the universe in 10 years ? aleksey konstantinovich i think it's 85%. i am an optimist in this regard. i think a lot. we will collect more facts, of course, it will not be easy. but if we focus our efforts on solving related problems. well, firstly, we will get a huge amount of technology and solving many useful applied problems. i think that if we do not open, then we will definitely get very close to answering such big questions, so eighty-five percent. thank you well, i think that pleasure should be stretched out, in fact and of course, 10 years. well, this is a very short period, because well, and that's all we will find out, yes,
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in 10 years and in fact yes , therefore, i would still put 30% modest and would think that we still have a lot of things ahead of us interesting next decade. well 30%, thank you very much. from my point of view , we are already explaining now what is happening in the universe, and how it all was, in general, one of the eastern peaks of ten years. we are deep enough and the challenges that we face today 90% thank you i have enough sexuars that have existed since antiquity with hesiod or someone else. you understand? i am generally satisfied with them. well, you can't. but if these guys are involved in such serious, uh , problems, then at least out of respect for them, a i would like a little. i don't know there to edit my conservatism and say yes. come on, i don't know guys. i
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give you 30% in general in order to support 30% in general. of course, because well, otherwise, of course, of course, 30%, thank you very much. in fact, a surprisingly high prediction, 58, there's a whopping almost 59% that science will still explain how the universe came into being when you and i came up with this topic. i was sure that the forecast would be zero. well , because, but it turned out that the theory really a lot more or less. and everything can be calculated, but it is not clear. here's my word of honor, but you know the most important conclusion that i made today, while we explain how the universe arose, we are just looking for some beauty. why not? it's just beautiful to launch fish soup, but these spectra wow, it's beautiful to recognize
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12 decimal places into space beautiful distant galaxies to receive yes, it's beautiful that and, by the way, it's very cool that in parallel while we are doing all this. this is not just a utility fund. well, as it were, yes, that is, in parallel. we we can develop medicine to develop something useful. cool, i also remembered an anecdote. e hmm when einstein goes to heaven and the lord says, albert really, an outstanding scientist will fulfill your request. he says, lord please write me the formula of life and a board appears there, well, the form is being written is being written is being written. lord but here's the mistake. i know , maybe we're just a little bit unprepared, and that's the whole point, it was a program, science and a program about how science will change, in that including our lives with you for the next 10 years.
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