[000:00:00;00] and the spokes in the pentagon promised to do everything to prevent the strategic alliance of russia and china what provocations we can expect in the near future, we see how they are getting closer and this is a problem guests from the past barack obama met death and scholz in berlin. what is the message brought by the ex-president of the united states in ukraine the conflict can be stopped and we will stop it insolence is the second happiness. poland wanted reparations from russia following world war ii americans, look right now. hello, is this the meeting place on ntv, the place where everything becomes clear? i'm andrey norkin. my colleague is ivan trushkin. we are working

live. well, the western press continues to guess. what are the consequences of an attempt to carry out a terrorist attack in moscow, the statement made by kremlin spokesman dmitry peskov well, we also brought it to you that when these drones were flying at the kremlin, washington was actually the gunner of kiev. do you remember this statement there peskov i said that all these goals are always determined by the americans, by the way, later, andrei vladimirovich, we also confirmed this , and i say that the americans are not yes, that’s all, it was agreed. well, in general, there they come. i mean, again, now the western press to at least one common conclusion. this is definitely an escalation of military escalation between russia and the united states, and then how will it all be? it will not look very clear, because, again, according to tradition, they begin to transfer arrows to ukraine, so it was after crimean bridge so was the northern streams. remember, at some point the americans say, “oh, we have absolutely nothing to do with it, ” and then they say, you know, there is

certain information that says that this is either about ukrainian forces or directly ukrainian grouping. there such in different cases differently. in general, in the story with these drones. everything is repeated literally to the letter that let's see, it was ukraine that could launch drones at the kremlin, e, several western journalists told fine anational times at once military experts and diplomats on condition of anonymity. all of them called the version of moscow's staging untenable, they said that the kremlin had both the technical capabilities and intentions to attack moscow, and in the declassified pentagon documents, well, which were leaked to the network , it was directly indicated that the main intelligence directorate of ukraine plans to strike at the square, at least indirect involvement of kiev the terrorist attack was confirmed to the publication by the center for naval analysis of the united states e, moreover, they indicated that washington is such does not approve of the actions, and the white house also

tried to divert attention. how putin reacts to the alleged drone attack in the united states will depend on him, but it is hard to imagine that he is sitting and waiting for some kind of pretext to the american excuses, sergey lavrov answered , he is now in india meeting with colleagues in the shanghai cooperation organization. here he says that the denial of kiev in washington, in fact, does not change anything. russia is considering everything that happened in the sky in the senate corps kremlin as a hostile act and a terrorist act. it was clearly a hostile act , it is quite clear that without the knowledge of the owners of kiev , the terrorists could not have committed it, and we will answer me by talking about the incident, was it or not? and we will answer specifically people. i want to say again, we have, uh, patience and a lot of such a proverb

, russians harness for a long time. well, and so on. well, in the sky over kiev, a mysterious operation was launched to destroy the drone. so almost live it was seen how those air defense forces destroy flying objects, almost the very center, kiva. it was said that this is a russian drone and look , the ukrainian telegram channels wrote how our ukrainian air defense works competently, but in fact it turned out pretty quickly that this is not a russian drone at all. this is a turkish-made bayraktar, which ukraine bought for some reason because of what. he flew over the very center of kiev for 20 minutes after a system failure . uh, where does ukrainian air defense shoot from? from what rooftops, because all this, again , was reflected live here, in fact, it is important to note, why do i repeat several times about live broadcast? usually when there is some footage, but with the fact that there are drones over kiev or if some affected objects , it is forbidden to shoot and show all this in ukraine, in fact, the fear of criminal punishment, but

not this time, for some reason, almost live . again, there was a mysterious live broadcast from several cameras. in general history. well, a discussion of this incident with drone in ukraine eclipsed. only footage from the hague is footage with terrorist president zelensky, where you see for the first time he appears in public wearing glasses. earlier, he noted in an interview with such regret that they say that due to the fact that the bunker has poor lighting almost, almost by candlelight you have to work, he planted his eyesight. well, the ukrainian press furnishes all this as much as possible. tearfully well , for the dessert of this our news section, the morning revelation from an old fascist who still considers himself the main european he overcame the diplomat jose, he spoke at a conference on the state of the european union, and directly admitted that the peace plan for ukraine

, which china is now offering, is not beneficial for europe , the only measured plan that is now available for the european union is the plan of president zelensky, because the chinese peace plan this is not a plan. this is a collection of proposals and wishes, the only plan is the plan of ukraine, but russia is not ready to accept it if the barrel did not exist, it would have to be invented by andrey just like the story about zelensky with glasses. he wants to see anton with you and the neighbors, i can only say one thing , looking at such fake bespectacled men. ah, i've been wearing cars since the second grade, but i remember the grade very well, probably in the fourth we had such a teaser. here she comes to him. the bespectacled man in the ass the ball went to football and the lobes smashed said it was a goal. for some reason, i now remembered it and it seems that from the third grade. wait. i didn't. what is he saying? he supposedly. he's

supposedly so bold bunkers don't sit like small. yes, you ask some questions. seriously, what did you say to vanya? i say, i started glasses from the fifth grade and you didn’t drive to lick, that’s why we really wanted to talk to you so globally today, and to start talking about geopolitical, uh, topics, because the americans are our colleagues, and once again they give us a reason to raise this topic, the confrontation between the united states and china itself. hmm, and russia is everything there, as if in one heap they have several new proposals. uh, a variety of people marked over the past few days, and we thought that we should collect all this and try to analyze it. let's see the story start. last thursday, the head of national intelligence of the united states, ivril haynes, said that russian-chinese strategic ties expanded after the start of a special operation

in ukraine, and this, according to haynes, became the most important priority in the work of american intelligence agencies a few days earlier, the alliance between moscow and peka scared the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff of the armed forces usa mark miles of suvorov what we should not forget and what to beware of is the rapprochement of china and russia in the military sense, the problem is in conflicts and warriors, therefore we want to make it impossible for russia and china to form a geostrategic political or military alliance against the united states in order to drive a wedge between russia and china washington is actively looking for allies, according to bloomberg , citing a source in the white house , the biden administration has abandoned public criticism of india in the hope of poaching weeks for his side, and this despite the strong cooperation of india with russia in the defense sphere, as well as the supply of russian oil to indians, but biden does not give up and invited the indian prime minister to washington in the summer of the fashion press,

however, the success of this enterprise of disbelief. india's significant weaknesses vis-à-vis china and its inevitable proximity to it ensures that new delhi will never be drawn into any us -beijing confrontation india values ​​cooperation with washington for the tangible benefits it brings, but does not believe it in my the queue should financially support the united states in any crisis along the way, the us senate is preparing another anti-chinese bill initiative. the big-named china competition 2.0 is intended by congressmen to limit us investment in china a. also the transfer of high technology , the chinese government does not hold back in its quest to dominate the 21st century. and if we in america rest on our laurels, if we allow the chinese communist party to defeat us, it will have serious implications for the world's democracies.

so, school programs. naturally, we know friends with you, not only poems about a bespectacled man and a ball. this is the one he always had with him. well, about action and reaction. yes, ah, from this point of view , the actions of the americans look. quite logical. if they believe that the chinese are creating some kind of coalition with our participation. there's something else that will work against the united states they should try to do something anti-chinese. maxim anatolyevich wait. maybe i'm wrong. just wanted to ask you, you have not been for a long time. here is your point of view, i do not agree, but firstly, with the thesis that has been voiced in your voice all my life, that a attracts gently hints that i sing from someone else's voice, that is, they voice it so correctly, because already write the text attract. oh what was said. what draws india to its side. and the united states

to drive a wedge between russia and china, in my opinion , on the contrary, is happening precisely because the americans are creating hostile the alliance is bringing in india, uh, the philippines , south korea, japan, vietnam. well, the related shares of success. that's exactly what they don't kill. a wedge between moscow and beijing, they are pushing beijing to moscow because there would be a different one, theoretically, perhaps a different tactic or even a strategy. this is the maximum for a while to lull vigilance. for the time being, china is trying to show the chinese that our main enemy is russia, it is they who have gone unbelted and absolutely confessed. you are normal , you are civilized. we would not agree with you to line up, no alliance to persuade the indians to do something there, but it’s good against the whale. you , as always, immediately make comments about the sarinka, and leave the log unattended

. wait. wait here. and by the way, the main conclusion, which is the main assumption that we voiced here, is that they are really trying to create something big against china. you're just focusing on yes right now, and that and that's more good news for us. why because it would be bad news if they just concentrated on us at the beginning to finish us off, and then, over time, they took up china in a more favorable atmosphere. when russia was weakened and warmed there, or i understand you that they won’t succeed in anything such a global creation among the americans, then now in china, yes, yes, it’s possible to succeed, but because, well, india well, not me, india - this is the most difficult option sharpens the chinese in the tooth, what they want china japan has already been returned, but practically

it has nowhere to go a yes philippines well, it ’s more complicated, but nevertheless the philippine president was in washington for negotiations. in general, they are also being pulled up, india on the one hand. this is absolutely autonomy, obviously australia, probably new zealand is there. i’m just talking about asia geographically australia, by definition, of course, an ally of the united states, so india has a very serious contradiction with china, which we don’t talk about, and sometimes even the idea is born to conclude there. uh, it can’t be that they have such contradictions, plus it also overlaps with the fact that pakistan is now an ally well given, right? well, let's have some kind of anton, let's do it so well, in general, we see the speech, i did not agree to, in my opinion, i do not remember.

now, yes, of course, they will put pressure, but south korea is holding on to the hook like this, but by possible deliveries, including weapons from north korea, so they, too , should make some drastic movements in relation to china, nor the plant, as if to understand, as a consequence these sharp movements in the chewing of the united states . well, they will not break the brakes with china in the case of russia, for example. this is understandable from the armament rate. in the case of china, this is a connection to possible sanctions packages that can. well, in theory theoretically, south korea will, of course, maneuver and try to get out of this whole story, because it has its own north korea nearby. and that's a big problem for her. although means, as to your question. will china, uh, will the united states somehow draw up some kind of action against china, of course, and they are already doing it. so we see now two contradictory trends. the first voiced or lies in the subtleties. he said that there are only three great powers in the world now. e in ukraine

ukraine in the european union, even, probably, now obi because he called russia uh china and the united states and here is ip based on this, he said you need uh, you need to do everything so that russia and china together, respectively, e do not unite with people or a is , and american politics, which now she needs to constantly, accordingly, do something, and china and in contrast, by the way, from russia, this is probably the main, unifying consensus between the democrats-republicans that china is generally an enemy and republicans and republicans scolds the democrats that this is not tough enough in relation to china, and the democrats are trying to drag their own agenda, but uh, why does the term say there is no such escalation, yes, that's sharp, as in relation to russia, because, firstly a huge commodity turnover in china if the ussr and a it is clear that the introduction of serious sanctions will not hit china first of all, it will hit incoming ones first.

let's stop before we start talking again. now andrey vladimirovich i’m just like such results, which means, ah, the meaning so far from what has been heard, maybe the americans will be able to create something like that, but then it’s not very clear to go against china if they succeed or not, but the process itself, in principle, is in our favor, because the americans are engaged in they are chinese, if it’s very rude, so andrey vadim , why did you have this replica that the americans will succeed? yes? they have already created. they created three associations already operating. this is kvass. where, by the way, is india officially a member, to be honest, you can here is something right away such to remember than to work association. yes , somehow noted there there what they did. here are our viewers. i'm sure you heard this abbreviation there, i don't know back in

that they are now conducting a coordinated military policy in many issues , information development activities, and so on and so forth. at least tell about it. yes, yes, there are politicians, andrey vladimirovich is simply building a new triangle. this is japan south korea usa and by the way, south korea sorry broke after the last visited. excuse the permission to find american atoms off the coast of south korea, this is what the word is. because these are much more serious things, thank god, as far as both koreas are concerned. i know very well how the stoltenberg broke too. he was there in both. yes, i, by the way, well, to all large american boats off the coast. e, korea, respectively, this is a profitable korea for them

to protect. that's the thing, in order to defend against the dprk, the main submarines are not needed. i'm sorry, i want to remind you that from the dividing line from the eighth parallel to the city, the village is 40 km, and that's all, there are 15 minutes and there is no seoul. no. there are different types of weapons. are you even discussing nuclear, this is just the same way back to this underwater problems, we ask what the name of several organizations will look like. here the americans are collecting for themselves, raking these , raking those. to act how will prepare for the crisis, including the military phrase, we are all preparing for the crisis one way or another, what they will do, including engage in blocking in waterways in the indian ocean and so on. yes, blocking, of course, what does blocking mean

they will arrest chinese ships, not only not only about that. no. it means the military, then. they are not something to arrest. they just then it's a war between the us and china but you i mean, cases of conflict it will produce and yet we must not forget about the other place will be or not. all right, please. about how never before the work on the signing of the agreement on military cooperation between japan and nato it will open soon. no, it's all funny, it seems. here we also laughed at many things as well. a very strong militarization process is underway. it was on the american initiative that they started talking, the united states anatolyevich maxim anatolyevich started talking about military things. let's show taiwan by the hand, as soon as something military, this is the most obvious story. and there is a continuation, because to

arm taiwan on wednesday, the taiwan authorities said they were counting on us assistance in the development of modern fighters, such as reuters writes that they have been dreaming of their own combat aircraft on the island for a long time, since even western countries are not eager to sell the latest models, fearing beijing’s reaction, and in the middle of the week , a delegation from american defense companies came to taiwan according to the chinese press, special attention, just to fighters and drones there is no place in the world where peacekeeping is more important. we want to contribute to taiwan's ability to defend itself and ensure the sustainability of the supply chain. we are trying help taiwan survive, and last week in washington boasted that they would test new underwater drones, which, according to the plan of the us military , will fundamentally change the situation in the taiwan strait, our first large uninhabited underwater vehicle. it's being tested off the coast of california right now, and it's going

pretty well. five more uninhabited submersibles will follow. which devices have the potential for hidden installation of mines, and this will radically change the situation, however, in taiwan alone, the americans decided not to stop and are actively expanding the geography of confrontation in the pacific ocean and pay attention to those to whom they used to have nothing to do the other day. it is known that the united states is preparing to open a new embassy in tonga , also in the plans of diplomatic missions in the countries of vanuatu and kiribati. and at the end of may. papua new guinea is expecting a historic visit from an entire jubaiden. he will be the first american president to visit the country in 100 years. these efforts will complement our expanded diplomatic presence in the pacific region. we will strengthen security up to the pacific region and give our pacific partners the ability to respond to both internal and transnational security threats alexandrovich you said

war before the plot, that is, this is not just preparation for flexing your muscles from trying to stop someone there about preparation the question is separate, but i would first comment on some self-confident statements, as if from the very beginning, hmm, the pacific coalition against china began to take shape a long time ago 15 years ago and the initiator was not the united states of australia, which for some reason they decided not to mention, it was i who mentioned it. yes, it was australia that started. well, maybe the rebellion none of our, uh, colleagues have been for the last 2 years and don’t know their post there, which means australia began negotiations alone, concluded a smithnom deal with japan, uh, from the side between states it is against china. naturally. this was once called the fakita trap, that is, china's economic and e power inevitably began to be reflected in the growth and its military power. he began to simply crush all the neighbors, they began

to unite, then they came there, united so what's the difference? a big difference? why an initiative? that is, it was long forgotten by everyone. whose initiative was it? because it's not like washington sent its vassals to line up, as it was in europe. and this was their initiative. washington has now come there with a task, and this is what american strategies are about. they also wrote 15-20 years ago that it is possible to limit the growth of china without a war. yes , i quote almost verbatim, but with the only condition is that the russian federation will be in the anti-chinese coalition, because without a war it is possible through economic measures, but russia has been compensated to china for everything, what can be limited? what is china doing now? and now the united states, they actually staged an island blockade of china, but china is also to blame. there is no need for illusions, china, the chinese

are not our brotherly people. this is a marriage of convenience absolutely, but nonetheless. uh, island from japan to the philippines, where taiwan is also included, most importantly, there are no islands. remember constantly, sometimes it remained correct, sometimes others gave the point not in the islands, but in the fact that between the islands. the point is that this island ridge closes china's access to the open pacific ocean. this limits it not only in the military sense, but also in the economic sense, and in this taiwan's key role why can't china bypass the taiwan problem? this is his outlet to the ocean and, accordingly, the united states is the same as what these businessmen are now saying. you listen to the territory, they are ready to provide. uh hello garage. and this is not the territory, china, how what kind of independence from whom? so, uh

, today the situation is such that there is a military conflict. around taiwan is inevitable. and even if they don’t want to, they are chinese or they are the other side china doesn’t like to fight, he loves to trade, but, but he doesn’t have a way out either, the latest statements from the official petin ministry of defense are absolutely militaristic, and they are on the rise. and if it's all inevitable, uh, is it necessary for here, well, the opposing chinese side. uh, here's the creation of some international coalition. no, well, or this is potential by itself, but they already have no one to bring russia closer to china to form a strategic partnership between moscow and beijing as much as the united states of america uh, china does not benefit from a direct conflict

with the united states russia does not benefit from a conflict with the west, the united states if they would like to make russia not an ally, but a normal partner. they could 10 completely, otherwise, if the united states were ready, they would be at least a little bit. take into account russia's interests in ukraine to some extent, in some other parts of the near abroad, russia's reaction would be completely different from the russian elites, in general , 20 years ago and 30 years ago and even 10 years ago were much more pro-western than about chinese and let's say it straight. yes, alexander yuryevich is absolutely right, even now if the united states offered some acceptable minimum acceptable compromise in moscow, moscow would be ready to discuss, uh, but the united states china taiwan the same history, right? but the united states believes

otherwise its foreign policy establishment has come to the conclusion, perhaps wrongly, but nonetheless. they believe that russia is so weak that they can neutralize it, that they can break it, and then, after this happens, take on china in full, that is, they believe that negotiating with russia even on some minimal grounds they won't start reading until they feel they're done with us. i heard you correctly. you know full blown. that's what it is now is happening with russia well, such a disconnection is almost complete, almost complete between western russia, it is economic , it is completely impossible with china, because their economic ties are such that it is unprofitable to break. and to be catastrophic and for china we have pronounced in the twenty-first year in december of economic relations with

the united kingdom the states never psychologists mean behaving insanely. and now i didn't say they were acting crazy. i said that they could be andrey nikolaevich you is wrong. perhaps there is no time to show the funnel that spins around china in asia, let's call it that we will also be sucked there. outside of our desire there is none. or we have a chance here, so to speak, to be a partner of china, but still stand aside from this. yes , it depends on the current development, current events. you see, here the situation is very strong and rapidly changing. so, when they say that the united states, if they took into account someone's interests, the whole situation could develop somehow differently, you understand, it's a return to the saying about wolves sheep, you know, well, americans can't stop being wolves, in my opinion, even more older to say something about it, the problem. not in this at the time when they agreed, the chinese, the chinese have not yet been considered. or as a competitor

that will take away the palm from them, the united states is in a situation where they believe that in the early nineties the very end of history has come and that picture of the world has come in which they always remain the dominant leader. and when we we are talking about the fact that the americans to us relations with russia could act one way or another, they do not consider themselves a winner. they don't think they have any way to lose. they are now, in fact, when we say the same miles, the same reasoning, the meaning is that the logic is such that we defeat russia in ukraine , force it to sign conditions in which one of the points will be a withdrawal from china and then we begin to act this kitaev with china, including by peaceful means. well, at least at the first stage you understand that she's in a blockade, that's the calculation, but if that doesn't work, it might not work with china. we can enter into a military conflict with china despite the fact that china will not have russia's resources. in fact , the calculation is where is the calculation of defeat? ukraine we are nowhere, because look, because this

is an immediate defeat of the united states, but in this case we can then move on to the hot phase, because they are already raising the facts in the asian region. uh-huh now i ask, let's after a pause, okay, yes, then we go over a little. may 9 in the most important a holiday for the whole country on ntv, a parade dedicated to victory day, a live broadcast from red square, and then all day the best films about the war

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taip erdogan, at a rally in front of his supporters, agreed to call the united opposition, which put a common opposition against him such a single candidate kemal klych the way perverts and lgbt representatives my brothers and sisters believe in the sanctity of the family. after all, the family is sacred to us. ask how perverted structures how lgbt begging for votes mr. kemalkovich droglu we know you are lgbt we also know that everyone in the opposition alliance is also lgbt but the justice and development party has never had such a problem with the nationalist movement party. there has never been such a problem with his people's alliance, there is no such problem, because we believe in the sanctity of the family. we will never allow our family to be harmed by the turkish presidential elections on may 14, looking forward from across the ocean, but waiting for the elections with the right outcome.

let's take a look at the cover of the icon, and let's see, it means that the most important elections of 2023 are written here. vote save democracy, but even more outspoken. here. there is erdogan. here, bottom left, erdogan must leave, that is, they are waiting for only one result. well, the hungarian viktor orban, whose prime minister is loved in the west no less than erdogan on the air, local radio stations called the west’s desire to defeat russia a fantasy. i don’t have enough imagination to imagine that someone can defeat a nuclear power to think that russians will idly watch as they are defeated, their political system is broken, their president is assassinated, they stage a drone attack over red square, to believe that they will silently watch and accept military defeat can those who have not grown up from childhood . so in a fairy tale it happens in reality. no. well, and the current bosses. let's move on to the retirees, because there is also no interest there, erdogan. well done of course. he must have looked at the

famous song there on election day. well, there we sang about everyone candidates. and they have opposition candidates , what are they talking about? eh, what is he implying? ah, here we had such a phrase here, viktor zhozevich, and we agreed with him. uh, our other members, what victor said. maybe the political establishment in america is wrong, but at some point they made such a decision. and so, in foreign policy , they began to act in the direction that they have now brought us all. my personal point of view is such that this, probably, was formed during the amin. well, for some reason it seems so to me, but barack obama has become. as you remember, he was a nobel peace prize winner and didn’t even work for a year in the presidential post, and then he fought for peace like that in soviet times, there was such an anecdote that this struggle for peace was out of place. there are no stones left for me. for some reason, it seems to me that it was with obama that all this began and on the rise on

the rise. and vanya said yes, some, as he said, forgotten political retirees are coming out. i highly doubt that obama is a retiree. he may have, of course , there is no official position, there office at the state department or somewhere else, but just like that, obama, mmm, even for money , does not go anywhere. and he doesn’t say anything just like that, even if it’s arranged somehow there is a meeting with them to read. well, let's see the plot, you will understand why i had such a long preface, it was formally the ex-president of the united states arrived in berlin to push a bombastic speech on mercedes-benzarini about the challenges and opportunities of our time, the show was called the evening with the barracks. obama sold out all the tickets, despite the fact that in terms of rubles they the cost started from 7.500 and ended in the region of 50.000 for the vip category. she allowed to take a photo with abama, they asked as much as

220,000 rubles. the german press is shocked by such an attack. barack obama comes to berlin and performs for an hour and charges a lot for it. can he do that? or is he mocking these people , whom he really wants to reach out to, however, journalists are sure that obama's stand-up show in front of the germans is nothing more than a cover, the real purpose of the trip is negotiations with the former and current chancellor the day before the speech. obama dined at an expensive italian restaurant with angela merkel and her husband , they write that the politicians spent more than two hours in the institution and left. in a good mood the main topic of conversation. ukraine has become just a couple of days before, merkel again spoke of the need to peacefully resolve the conflict. our horizons, the creators of the munich security conference say that we need to think about the fact that at some point we will have to negotiate, then we should not

immediately hiss at him after meeting the death of the lyabam, he took over the current chancellorscheulz. negotiations took place behind closed doors , the press assures that obama brought some signal from biden. obama is a valuable interlocutor for schultz , not only because he is a longtime collaborator of joe biden, but especially important. now the view of the former american president on current events. and it should be of great interest to olaf scholz to fly to germany to go to an italian restaurant. it's only americans that such a kitchen exists, yes, it exists let's not. sorry, huh? well, you blow what you say, adult a person throws up that the topic is already some kind of shank from the shank. wait a minute andrey vladimirovich schnitzel. you see, everything pulled out began to be loved. now i will expel everyone from fedorov madina to talk. tell me,

please, i'm wrong. or am i still at least a little bit right, here, as it were, obama's personal view yes, but he has, of course, extra points of view. he is not a stupid man. and although the enemy, of course, but he really is. is it something like personal observations on current events, or does he bring some kind of concentrated opinion, and he conveys it to european partners. there are two points here, firstly, there is nothing unusual about their arrival, because the former american incumbent american presidents almost every year came to berlin on may 8, which they consider their victory day, in general, this happened more than once in history. and as for the current situation, there really is such a slightly busy background for this visit. the fact is that both in the usa and in the danes are very concerned about the latest, uh, steps that the macron is taking, who wants to completely drag the blanket over himself

negotiation process between russia and ukraine, and moreover, in the draft that has now been prepared. uh, french means assistant to the french president and the french foreign ministry there as part of a working group. here are the groups. the french did not include either the us or germany. that's good. and why obama solves this problem, because it's hard for biden to fly, well, first of all, because it's convenient, uh, to talk about this informally. well, that's how it always happens. some problems are best moved quite officially, and then bring them to the official level. a secondly, this is just an element of that very consolidation of the usa and germany, uh , in order to stop the french at most a daughter over your beloved france. yes, it has absolutely nothing to do with it, it will not be delayed until march 8th. the fourth will sit there for five days, you came to a good restaurant. yes, as for the former presidents, and you won’t even just be the president of the united states in general, retired politicians . it is they who, in various regional

conflicts, as a rule, voice those peace initiatives that either lead to success, either they don’t translate, but very often this happens, as their opinion, or do they stand behind them as someone? elites and states yes those who are not, can now openly say this, there were a lot of such cases during e war, numerous yes in the former yugoslavia, former retired politicians and various regions from the lower east to latin america and a lot of time in venezuela, remember it daste, that is, in principle, it leads me cowardly. frankly speaking, angela merkel can afford when she says that there is no need to hiss at isching, as they say, but the fact that they are going, well , the obvious thing is that andrei vladimirovich said that they are going to drive the french to you with this version, through whom will it go? let him score on the french. all.

uh, they say they will talk about one thing and that the french, maybe through uh the germans through merkel, it will come through, through anyone, but the thought, it is clear after the end of the active phase of hostilities, will still come. no matter how much you hate the current kremlin leadership, you just need to understand this if you accept this point vision. what obama's proposals specifically can bring i don't take the point, but let's point by point andrew lunch. you said at the very beginning. uh, such a thing that it all started by and large under abami, but that’s how it is for me, when i let me agree with this thesis, you just went through a new round of escalation right by you, but it started long before obama and, accordingly, well, if this were nothing it would not have been, would not have been putin's famous munich speech well, that means, in general, yes, it was russia that was surrounded. uh, and uh tried to restrain in the development of precisely foreign policy foreign policy, long before obama but this american consensus

in general is american political here america is above all, which trump called in terms of foreign policy influence. it is also bipartisan content. why, when victor spoke for a very long time and beautifully about the logic of the united states, did he do it at the moment when he began to speak? why are they so bad with russia now? here is the beginning again of the old hurdy-gurdy about russia is weak, so you can use. here is a mistake here, because, and the logic of their actions is not to a weak degree in the weakness of the logic, just the fact that they cannot allow anyone to become on a par with them or even above it. i say that it all started right by you because you are small. bush was a simple dude, locust no not before, but before obama acted. shaft is more sophisticated and that's what you just said, let's remember what an exceptional nation the americans are. this began

to get everyone's heads in without fail, but well they always had an internal understanding and they just left this concept , uh, it was an escalation, and initially everything that for a long time was originally a system of cost balances of possible potential competitors of the united states this system was built a long time ago and you are constantly modernizing now about trips. obama, well, after putin's speech, you continue to grow. yes, they have also begun to behave even more aggressively towards russia, but not because they believe that russia can somehow overcome them or can become the only one to become equal to them in the next decade and believed that russia is so weak. they can in this car, but this is a barrel organ what are they, they even have how many opponents of a competitor,

like china . i still argue with the thesis, and with such a general offensive of the times of obama, just the war of the eighth year, for objective reasons, was not yet common. now for the visit itself. you you know, i would somehow move into a practical plane. well, what is it? as a matter of fact, obama can offer merkel at the moment, there is an objective situation that the current one cannot bring , you understand everything in that there is an objective reality that suggests that the american administration has pledged to counter attack, that is, the infliction of a military defeat on the russian federation in to one degree or another and cannot get out of this concept , that is, the maximum that he can say is to come and discuss with mrs. merkel a what terms of surrender could we offer to the russian federation . what do you think, what can be chopped off from it and what can be imposed on it? you see, this is a retired president's fantasy speculation. he wants it. well,

this is what i really wanted. because some kind of peace plan, which, more or less, could be discussed. he can’t cite now, because, well, then he would have to get out of the biden concept, but he can’t do this now either. therefore, it is still some i agree that obama was the messenger of the american deepbait in this particular case, uh, moreover , i agree with maxim in the second paragraph, uh, since february, and in this studio, i have been saying that the americans they are preparing to get out of the conflict existential strategy, what they are talking about, what they are developing, and he came here to germany to discuss this strategy, but not on behalf of the baidan, the bidens do what they tell him, by the way, it all started. it's with clinton there offensive. they are a way out of conflict. uh, for any, but the other does not contradict the ukrainian counteroffensive or will not, which is also possible.

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i won’t drag out the time for a long time, the only thing i’ll say is that we are meeting with you in vladivostok and khabarovsk. i hope you will come to the program in a different format, on the thirteenth and fourteenth of may on the thirteenth of may, vladivostok, the faskohol hall and the fourteenth city palace of culture of khabarovsk i am waiting for you here, and now again through the news block, which is built in such a way that, well, almost everything what vanya will talk about is relevant. to this very historical revisionism and let's approach the topic of discussion, but we are not communicationsism, nevertheless, we will start with our news, because on the eve of the fsb, i did not know how to declassify the emergency documents. these documents are devoted to how german and finnish intelligence prepared estonian detachments , which were supposed to operate in our north in the rear, a small document there are five pages and date the dream to the forty-second year, which means, according to the soviet investigation, the german intelligence agency with the complex name abverneberbel. at the end

of august at the beginning of september 1942 he landed there are two reconnaissance groups in the arkhangelsk region. all agents were estonians. most of them served in the german army. the task of these spies was to study transport links in the north of the ussr, monitor the supply of weapons, and study the mood of the local population. and, of course, to find out the number of soviet troops. in this district. the nazis needed intelligence to prepare an operation to seize the northern and kirov railways. termination of allied supplies and support for offensive operations of the wehrmacht, let's be small an excerpt from the interrogation of one of these then detained estonian spies. our group from the german military intelligence had the following task to monitor the flow of goods by rail and inform the germans about the number of trains tracked from north to south and from south to north to collect information. how is the harvesting preparation for sowing, where are fortifications and airfields being built. what years are taken in the villages in the ranks of the red army to examine

the highways of the cross-country ability of vehicles and infantry, and now in our time in estonia on celebration of victory day in fact. banned this year. police. banned all public manifestations of the may 9 holiday is also prohibited. what is the name for playing aggressive music? well, apparently we are talking about songs about the war years and wartime. and if someone decides to do something like that, he will face a fine, or he will be arrested, or fined 1,200 euros. this is approximately 100,000 rubles. with our money. well, the situation is similar this year in moldova, where the prime ministers of this country are. doren-rechen said that for the demonstration of the st. george ribbon on some commemorative events on the occasion of victory day , a person will be fined in the event of this demonstration. again, with our money from 20 to 40,000 rubles. by the way, last year the moldovan authorities already tried to ban the st. george ribbon in the country, but then the constitutional court took its side and said that, in general,

it’s absolutely illegal, and now the authorities continue to bend their line. i would like to draw your attention to the fact that the decision of the constitutional court does not change anything regarding may 9, so everyone must understand that these symbols are prohibited for their use, the distribution of production and exposure will be fined. well, the berlin police chose a different position on these dates, it is forbidden to demonstrate both the russian and ukrainian flags there, such a position, but the furthest, as often happens. went more there live footage of these we have. let's show you demolished another monument of gratitude to the red army. this time. in the city of glubchitsy , they initiated the demolition of representatives of the infamous institute of national memory of poland. they also dedicated this ceremony getting rid of, according to them, a propaganda object, a half-hour broadcast on their social networks.

objects of propaganda cannot stand in the free space of the democratic. poland remember the relics of vova, the monument should carry a historical scientific and aesthetic value. this monument is not historical. it is dedicated to events that did not exist, but on the fields of andrey vladimirovich, we will now stop a little in more detail, yes, but wait. what about uh if nothing was hmm you want him to uh judge this. here on wrotsky. no, this don't want. yes, let's really now go from poland. we are a few days ago. uh, here they mentioned the decision of the polish authorities that they would seek reparations, not only from germany, but also from russia , we now recall how they have this logic. just if this comrade says that these events did not happen. and why do they then demand reparations if there was nothing. well, this is somehow strange, so

let's take a closer look at the plot on this topic. be kind on office days polish president. she reported that reparations following the results of the second world war should be sought not only from germany, but also from russia ; such logic unleashed a war by attacking poland and the soviet union entered the war. he is also to blame. in this order, the poles want to demand reparations first from berlin, then from moscow to berlin, we believe that we can start a dialogue, but with putin this is a different civilization, as soon as success is achieved in germany , the next step may be to start such a discussion with another oppressor russia's reaction restrained in the federation council they made it clear that the poles would not see reparations from either russia or germany but our foreign ministry accused poland of immorality, let me remind you. that it was the ussr that saved the poles from extermination by the nazis. in addition, moscow has already paid reparations to warsaw since 1945. for the fifty-fourth year, money,

according to the agreements, was transferred from the funds that came from the eastern zone of germany there and live today life is returning to poland poland is being restored from the ruins of the ocean. poland rises from the ashes despite historical facts the poles are actively distorting the events of the second world war a few years ago, prime minister morowetsky wrote an article for the publication of a politician in which he compared the ussr with nazi germany, saying that both sides acted in alliance against warsaw, and the kaczynski experiment in an interview with the bild newspaper stated that stalin and hitler divided poland using for these goals, the molotov pact drew attention to the distortion of historical facts, vladimir putin, i draw your attention to the following circumstances: the troops entered, the troops entered, they entered. after the polish government has lost control over its armed forces and over what is happening on the territory of poland and find it yourself. somewhere already in the region of the polish

romanian border. there was no one to talk to about this topic. you understand, however, they are in the most. poland still has those who debunk fakes about soviet soldiers in april at commemorative events dedicated to the eightieth anniversary of the beginning of the uprising in the warsaw ghetto, a former prisoner of auschwitz spoke. he reminded polish politicians of the facts that they are trying hard to forget trofim yes, people, i got and survived two death marches. the last one was from buchenwald. in terizin states, there i was brought freedom by the soviet army, in which the majority were russians, but i am in th my gratitude to those who freed me from the german camps will accompany me until the last day of my life. rather , such an exception is such a statement, because indeed this is an event that mr. aleksandrovich did not have, now there is such. hmm manner of foreign political introduction of foreign

political activity is called give toys. there's a war there, nothing like that, they started to master it, uh until february last year. and that is, the poles give all the money to the ukrainians, they say, give a penny somehow more weightily sum up some kind of documentary base, but so far no one gives them a catch, that is, the catch in the next catch is that the poles received before pennies through the european union well, it's kind of like these other toys, by the way, about the same. they still get less. it turned out that now it's necessary, just a penny to compensate for them has become less. and here policy about the fact that we are poor, in

the sense that we were robbed. the soviet union and germany have been right and justice for a very long time, in my opinion, this is almost in the founding documents. and now it’s great, from my point of view, a very good political move to announce that we will get reparations with germany from the soviet union why is a good move with russia why is a good move, firstly, any population of any country is always delighted when they are told that someone owes her something , plus the government, she says, not only that, what should we such a government of kochi, then all together, let us also demand that you simple poles. the germans would give pennies. well, accordingly, the russians and it is clear that no one will. now, no one will. but if we talk about it all the time, then after some time it will go into the category of an act of ground bentrop. we remember how it was with the fact. molotov at first everyone said.

that smelled like this electro. i'll forbid it. this is dedicated to this, then now, as they say, no one read it, while someone

yourself. and now, as they say, as you know. yes, september of the thirty-eighth year, germany and its neighbors and neighboring poland are trying to divide your dear homeland. yes, at this moment, the soviet union people's commissar litvinov is offering slovakia, that is, let 's write for you, to put it simply, and we are ready we are ready to ensure security czechoslovaks with one option, if poland gives a forty-meter corridor through which she will let the soviet army through. poland refused, and ours were set up there. taboo maps laid out where we'll go we won’t go an extra kilometer and so on. poland refused, because it wanted tishin from your homeland and at the same time you sympathize with the poles, the poles since the thirty-eighth year, its aggregation, then in the thirty-ninth

year. tell me, when do you consider it just the duty of germany and and to pay reparations to the poles in connection with all sorts of hardships, yes? why are they of historical memory? yes, i think, because for the poles, this is actually still a very big trauma, and for the czech republic on september 1, 2017 in terms of historical memory they will demand reparations from the poles for amusements in the thirty-eighth year, how do you then have to do this alone rugs? i say september sick, just something sick to the maximum, that traumatized. yes, we don’t have injuries when the poles in the kremlin put horses like this, wait, then you can paracede for this one. you can try, please, you from the point of view. this is really

a political technology and konstantin aleksandrovich spoke about it. these are pre-election steps. just like capture, schools and so on. so what's interesting about them? for all. us, well right for the benefit of history historians. it is that all this rests precisely on historical memory in history, of course, here you can talk a lot about the fact that all this does not correspond to what they say by and large. it doesn't matter. poland is a country that could not build an empire and has settled in its national memory. this one is deeply rooted in resentment, that is, trauma. still, there is trauma. this is trauma. she always accompanied the polish national elite, which, in principle, later built, by the way, with the help of the soviet union built a mono-ethnic nation state and broadcast this historical memory and drove all 40 million citizens into the head of all its citizens. now poland is being used, it is also for geopolitical purposes. because now this is a country that is trying to be the main ally of the united states in the european union, why is it demanding reparations from germany in order to push it back , germany, the us competition is the creator

of the european union, competitors are even more powerful, it is pushing it aside, and no one is outraged by this from russia, it also demands reparations. wonderful. do you know why no one resented them? why not? but europeans? why not outraged? they can't help but see outraged explosions believe that why? here they are not indignant, not indignant, as far as i remember, that there are no northern streams, because the german national elites, also not german for a long time, they are not a subject. they are international, they were grown from a test tube since school, all the harmonica players know very well about this and did not tell. udo alfcotta after with some conspiracy theories like that. he also described the technology perfectly until he died. therefore, the poles are now building their nation ; and

czechoslovakia with all due respect. this is a state that has never been independent ever. and how it was independent created as a result of the collapse of the empire did not even strive. well, of course take a look at schweik and everything is enough there. yes, i agree and disagree with god why well, he started powerfully that the poles never had their own empire. they were never able to build, but ended up with the fact that after all there was an empire. therefore, naturally, the poles did not want to build a full-fledged empire like that; there were several nationalities of different poles even went to vologda, to kostroma, they wanted to build this empire. she didn't get them. and then they lost everything, no appetite comes in time food. their empire was a classical empire and they are natural. they remember, but besides greatness, and here i agree with you, it’s really very similar, this is just my

assumption, but it’s very similar to the fact that poland exists in the european union, as a guarantor of non-unification of europe if you want, it was like that again a different project, which was dreamed of, including russia, started the left power in boots, which always causes, as it were, to guarantee that europe will not unite. here is the same european project, but before vladivostok, namely, this was the dream of our politicians at the beginning of the 2000s. and with germany , they all negotiated for a long time to establish economic, political and other ties in order for this to work, but there is poland and, judging by the way this project is being implemented, it is polish. then they will act as a guarantor, no unification and further. well, because uh, everything can change, hypothetically, alternatives for germany come to power in berlin ah. naturally , they will try to restore economic

ties with the russian federation naturally they will look for ways to interact with the russian political elite, but there will always be more between germany and russia. and now, if in such a context to educate the next generations, it is absolutely true. er, it will be common knowledge that yes. both russia and germany owe more, and with this they will raise a generation. this is interesting, it turns out, that is, but it will no longer give germany and russia the opportunity to carry out their own. well, i don’t know the goal there, yes, and for this, germany-russia is also must give grandmas. ah, the poles. it's kind of an influence. it ends in death. poland is not even in it. but, for example, i have always been interested in our reflection on everything. like here, since the mid-eighties , we have been reflexively repenting before everyone and

for everything. that is, whoever heard there that the city is now repenting, is not even particularly slovak anymore. i say yes, but anna, you know that at some point they explained to us that our side committed so many crimes against other countries and against of our own people, that we must definitely ask for this from ourselves a slave, and for now wait. for example, you know, this is a wonderful conversation, and existing historical complexes have historical mini-historical responsibility. well, let's start right from czechoslovakia then. here the uprising of the czechoslovak corps of the czech republic with the slovaks got into a foreign civil war, which made much more materials to be the question of the lord of the russian empire robbed, both red and white massacres. then? excuse me being grabbed responsibility. so here's a question. who is there? the czech republic or slovakia will pay the russian federation and the relatives of the great-grandchildren of those who suffered from this, as for the whole of europe in general, but you know, if

we now start counting the story about 20 million who died from a destroyed country and the fact that all of europe acted as aid providers military assistance to the third reich, then everyone will pay for us there, you understand, well, let's go then, we will come out with this, we will calculate. and how much the poles of the czech republic the germans owe us and we will the next generation should be taught to approach it this way, because, apparently, as i understand it , this is the only way in the historical question. and maybe that's the way it should be. apparently i don't know, i think it's something. well, why not? just why do we stay against us , there are some things that i don't know how to do or say, it's just ridiculous. well i do not know. i like the following phrase so much that everything that russia did in its history was in line with its national interests. and if someone doesn't like it, it's absolutely their problem, and in including in relation to poland here you can list endlessly. what did poland do in relation to us there for the tenth century. first time. she took our capital, then there was kiev, and

the last time she took kiev in the 20th century. actually, when kyiv was still russian. yes, therefore, the problems of the poles, they need to close their mouths, another question is that there are such things as, for example, the riga peace treaty, according to which the poles managed to take reparations at one time, when the bolsheviks lost their war with this campaign, and then we paid the poles to berlin money. we gave territory, what about further, even to them all the war trophies of all russian wars with the poles. that was a fantastic story, if such an event happened, why can't they believe that if they roll on us again, we will pay them again, there is a precedent from their point of view. we just need to push harder, so we need to stop this bullshit. i apologize reasoning, then blame. we are not to blame and say once and

for all that we do not consider a single case of our history when we did something to someone the state, we seem to be talking like that now, there are some representatives of society so that we can hear the beautiful russian language from it. i kept telling you that the historical discussion we have is interesting. and although others are no less. so a short pause maksimovich victory day on ntv with this, you can explore all the films about the fearless intelligence officer andrey

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likes it better as an ally in the great patriotic world war ii as it is now in textbooks, how children are told about the events of the thirty-ninth 45 years. there are many interesting things to be found there. french school textbooks on history, the decisive moment of the second world war is called the opening of a second front, they say the united states created a great alliance which became the quotation arsenal of democracy, one of the turning points according to french historians. this is a battle between the allies and japan in the pacific. and only then the battle of stalingrad. and you, the americans, ended such a war thanks to nuclear weapons. and judging by the issues of propaganda work, the leading video of the united states in the war. today i'm sure most of the french. what are they talking about? even some politicians have a survey that was conducted immediately after the war, to find out who had the most to do with the victory, at that time most of the french believed that it was russia and now it is the united states, this indicates that

they worked on our perception of history, a similar situation in germany is called the landing as the main event of world war ii in history books allies in normandy is not kursk . the battle of berlin is not mentioned in any way in the text. the steering wheel of the ussr is indicated only in passing, they say gradually the allies, that is, in great britain france usa well, yes, the soviet union was successful, the liberation of eastern europe is also not in the foreground. it is not surprising that today half of the inhabitants of germany consider the americans the main saviors, because today the people in estonia honor their american liberators. they were german soldiers and did what they had to do. and we were american soldiers, and we also had our own mission. but in britain, a different story, the british believe that they won the war. it was they who in the first years of world war ii, and the millions of victims of the soviet union provide the germans in the eastern lands only slip is mentioned. but

the events of the forty-second year are colorfully painted, when the main battles took place with the participation, it is especially emphasized that at the front the british defended liberal values ​​in the world of treyforism. and dictatorships. and ambiguous parallels are drawn between the soviet union and nazi germany. the same fables are told by the local political elite. putin is using the world cup in russia as a publicity stunt the way hitler used the 1936 olympics in germany yes, your description of what will happen take place in moscow at the world cup at all stadiums. yes, i think the comparison with 1936. it's absolutely appropriate here. maxim anatolyevich, this is the very historical one, now i will stretch my tongue , revisionism turned out well done. yes, well, this is an alternative history, which is everywhere and always in fact, it is extremely unpleasant it is a complete lack of objectivity. what i always acted against, which infuriated me in

our soviet history textbooks, but there it was different, was the lack of objectivity. well, naturally. if a yes says that the united states won the war with germany on this guest, in general , there is nothing else to discuss here, that we have to understand where this will come from. it means that ah. this is a change in the perception of history. it probably somehow leaves its mark on how we see today and tomorrow, so this thing is extremely dangerous negative. she's not just annoying. i'm trying, but otherwise then, so that we , as it were, will not pay attention to this, we will not discuss it. who says that i'm trying something interesting. you say there is nothing to discuss. and i say that there are clinging to no well, i can not cling to today's clinging questions. let me turn to something else now. come on, turn it out, how's that going?

six months ago, i had a debate in the studio with one of our senates, who, in all seriousness , claimed that the soviet union won the war with japan in world war ii , in fact, the americans did not take it. not a single island, but when i proved it to him, i was on these islands that the americans took, but so here it is, he made a very strong impression on you, because you are talking about it for the second time. this is after, although the soviet union entered on august 8 in the forty -fifth year. all the islands included even okinawa the last island was taken. in short, i say this, now here we are, and for the sake of political expediency, it is being rewritten. history of the pacific war through the mouth of this distinguished senator. they will name the surname, and the same thing happens with them, for the sake of their political expediency , the history of the war is being rewritten for us the main german front, which is certainly, well, 85 percent. i think

the soviet union won, that's all. actually, the technology is understandable unpleasantly both, but we, of course, are offended that they are rewriting. that's something that is not in our favor, especially when but about, by the way, the plot was shown that, and the germans welcome that the americans were liberated, i would believe, but the name of the city of bastoy flashed by. i'm like, uh, a big fan of cycling and eat 100. do not eat it and a very famous race in belgium is of course the belgian. they say that we have germans liberated the americans. it has nothing to do with it, well, we will clarify maxim anatolyevich thank you for bogdanovich's detail but we will nevertheless return to looking into the future through the past. if at some point you start writing in historical textbooks for children. here is what we have now illustrated for you , obviously already at this moment, when you turn the story in this way. do you think that the former liberators, that is, the inhabitants of the soviet union, will need to treat moscow in the future, as they treat it correctly today, manger? that is, i will express myself very

extremely briefly everything that happens in the historical sense. this is just a revision of the results of the second world war for us, the great patriotic war and the second world war. these are two wars, as if combined, this is a revision of the results. everything in the field of consciousness in order to deprive us of the status of the liberator of the winner of fascism of the one who ground all these german divisions and so on. and secondly, it will eventually lead to a revision of the geopolitical situation. this is what andrei vladimirovich spoke about, and it is projected into today's day, of course. a let's reconsider the borders anyway since the nineties, the borders in europe are actually beginning to be reconsidered. they have already ceased to be so unshakable, as back in the seventy-fifth year they tried to beat helsinki with a hammer. as for japan, maxim anatolyevich, this senator, of course, he is probably not a historian, but he really played a significant role in the defeat. japan played the soviet union by defeating a million-strong kvanton army. this was one of the decisive factors. this was one of the decisive ones. can i agree one of the decisive factors that

the japanese decided not to resist not to resist the landing of american soldiers on the japanese islands, where there would be very large losses. nuclear explosions in hiroshima in nagasaki were indeed terrible phenomena, but they did not lead to the complete defeat of japan, she could for a very long time. resist vladimir viktorovich shook his head yes , he shook his head, because i do not agree with bogdan e, in his thesis that history comes first, and after that there are various consequences no, in fact, history is not mathematics, that's all. it's perfectly well know if in mathematics you want measure the area of ​​the circle. you need to know the radius number pi 3.14 there is a formula for the area of ​​a circle - this is e and ap squared everything and it cannot be otherwise. two times two equals four, everything in history is multiple. otherwise , politicians first set themselves the task. and then they tweak the story. here is the solution to this problem. that is, we need e two times two to be five or four and a half for the story.

it's not a problem. we will rewrite just a history textbook, everything real is history, really. that will do it no, and the politician yes, most of them are fake and write textbooks on the popo. let me remind you of karl popper who says there is no single history of mankind. there are an infinite number of different stories. that 's all, i will object as a professional historian. sorry history is a very exact science. it is based on documents on archives on archeology and so on, the other one is interpretations correct? yes, textbooks are not history. textbook. this is purely marketing is advertising is that self-awareness, which is driven into the head, of course, to people. it's big this makes the problem is that historical revisionism did not start there, but here, because the modrinbentrop pact of revision and the sweeping assessment of it, which was given in the eighties, was an instrument for the collapse of the soviet union , because with this slogan that the fact of the bendrop hammer - it's kind of criminal. and therefore,

for example, it was separated into the baltic states. although no one really appreciated this park. like the very annexation of the baltic states in reality once again, and then it just happened to them the same logically the union collapsed they stopped considering us the socialist bloc, as they held the winner. we say that the yalta peace was collapsing. it then began to crumble, moreover , historical reserves are here until the last moment. you see, the notorious wheelchair urengoy with this interpretation of the germans. this is what we have allowed ourselves to do here for decades, and moreover, it was carried out at the state level and now i will try. you knock it out with a crowbar from somewhere, they will immediately start talking to you. you are suppressing history. although we ourselves shitting on our heads. we have now begun to do this less, but we will try to expel those who have been doing this for three decades, we will not have time, and mikhail borisovich, he was so worried right now at the beginning, to be honest, let me just want to continue my idea that we have some kind of complex, what if

someone in the west does not perceive some part of our history the way we want. we must definitely fall into hysterics like this, to be honest, because what maria alekseevna says it doesn’t matter for mario alekseevna moreover, she is not some kind of zhurnaum maria alekseevna, some kind of fool. yes, therefore, in general, it absolutely does not matter to us how the munich agreements are interpreted there, or whether we carried out the executions of these unfortunate polish officers there or not . we, as citizens of the russian federation, will not run out of stock. that's not for one of the events, firstly, because all the events have already passed. this is part of history, and in this history. all peoples. there are some moments that may look somehow ugly from the point of view of other peoples , therefore, we need to perceive not that something can collapse in our country, or even

somewhere we can, why would it be right. so i’ll tell you for me as it means for a teacher, and he says after a pause, so this is a good student, so there are no problems in our history or relations with neighbors, a completely terrible difference. how can one give a damn maxim anatolyevich maxim anatolyevich so i don’t know, well, at school let’s not taking place in a small german town, the same american zone is now converging there

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clear. we continue. that's all that we now offered you to discuss. it's kind of like such actions from the outside, some bad people bad countries, they force others to revise history there. well, what mikhail borisovich was talking about. as i understand it, konstantin alexander agreed that the problem is precisely in us, when we ourselves begin to consider this all in a different way, uh. can we now give just such examples, when it seems, as if of good will, the country begins to shovel its entire history. one of the clearest examples of the reversal of the national ideology of china, despite the eight-year war with japan, which began back in 1937 in china in an attempt to rapprochement in the future diligently avoided this topic, they did not call the japanese aggressors , and in 1972 they even resumed the diplomatic relations, a cardinal reversal occurred after the events on tien mein square 89, the authorities harshly presented a point to liberal-minded students, who were declared japanese

revanchists. well, japan again turned into an actual enemy. there were so many people there, they were all thinking about the country. they thought about the future. we just wanted to devote ourselves to the state, but in 1989 everything changed after coming to power. sitting zempina in in the collective memory of the chinese, there was another reversal of the role of the victim of japanese aggression, faded into the background, and china became the winner in what is called beijing the world anti-fascist war? since then, chinese officials regularly participate in memorial ceremonies, and the memory of world war ii has become one of the symbols. revival of nations. a turn took place in japan, attacking china in the thirty-seventh, the japanese, then joined hitler by the end of world war ii , about 24 million chinese became victims of japanese aggression, most of them peaceful population, but after the nuclear bombings

of hiroshima and nagasaki in august 1945 and the surrender. japan quickly forgot about its own war crimes. about the policy of memory in the country was built on roller skates , no one had either physical or mental strength to scream for help in the city there was complete silence, not a sound of tens, thousands of people were dying, there was not a single doctor , medicine, or water. that's it, the fire just melted and swallowed up the whole city for the sake of friendship, with the japanese in washington. now they prefer not to remember. who exactly dropped the atomic bombs to peaceful cities. having killed almost 100,000 people on issues of 2-3 japanese, they have a positive attitude towards america tokyo and washington became allies, and at the beginning of the year they agreed. to develop military cooperation so konstantin aleksandrovich turns out that such historical steadfastness is impossible, because all the same, sooner or later , in essence, politics will rot exactly like that, and so we all say, in fact, it’s the same

thing, it’s just in one. so you started talking, and you are talking about revisionism. uh-huh so revisionism is the word. it is too the most that we have scouts and they have spies. here we have revisionism, it is by no means only we have it, and each country has its own reserve. and everything else from each country. this is historical politics. and, as mikhail borisovich rightly said , we don’t give a damn about what kind of historical policy they have for us, so that we don’t have revisionism, when it’s possible, somehow absolutely, perhaps, absolutely realistically, sometimes you need it useful. and that's how he needs to be useful. but i can explain everything historical politics. what is she in all countries without exception? firstly, the greatness of my history, when i once went to the imperial war museum in london where the great military history of great britain is presented, well, basically it is the colonial wars and constantly defeats, and

there are little kids with notebooks and write down how heroically they have a profile there , where the checkboxes must be ticked, how great britain fought heroically throughout its history. this is historical politics. she is vulnerable. here in the proposal is ours from the point of view before the story. and which one is vulnerable? give me an hour, i 'll unroll it over these very logs, because there is one in the district on one lie. but from their point of view, what i will say, i will be revisionism. they are pursuing a historical policy, and again, it doesn't matter what i say. i told them the main thing is that it does not reach their population correctly. so, in all revisionism is called differently, sometimes it gets sick, like oblivion of some sides. you know, our pages were very difficult. i don’t even talk about the story from china about domansky when there was a small war, what kind of massacre was there natives of the russian empire in china when the boxer uprising, in which we then , together with others, suppressed the pogroms of the chinese

in blagoveshchensk, read on the internet. see how you don't have to talk about it. just don’t, don’t, because it’s profitable for us now and we need to be friends. with china, they would be more mature to say that yes, it was. it wasn't one of the parties. you see, now we can talk calmly. this is the growing up of the border, like me, like me, it can be painful pages, each one with a stick there in this one. well, poke, and you can let this difference drag on, as we are now, how much we had with the chechens during the two chechen wars. we are now poking a wand into this wound no, because it has healed for a long time and thank god some pages do not need to be turned. you want to call it illusionism, please, but i believe that this is the maximum in your reasoning. i think there is one uh

inaccuracy. and you just offer, as it were, well, forget something, well, forget oblivion. and we are not talking about forgetting, but about rearranging black signs to paint white. and on the contrary, goddamn. here's the problem. i do not agree with, and sometimes we make opponents. you see, uh, far, not always, in general, historical memory is historical politics. this is an interpretation. sometimes. it's just a fantasy. as an expert on ukraine , i can say that the entire ukrainian historical policy is pure fiction, of course. yes. here, like the ukrainian nation itself, which invented it. here they are doing it, you know that maine and so on, but it is the topic that threatens us and has already resulted in a conflict that we now see it all can be embodied in real blood. academician, petr petrovich tolochko very clearly said in his book of ukraine in european integration the importance of euro- the importance of historical memory lies in the fact that sooner or later. she turns to blood. he meant more than a hundred people killed on euro maidan, and he was not mistaken. now there are already thousands of dead, so historical politics should be treated extremely

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what seemed impossible to rewrite. they themselves expelled themselves from the camp of the conquerors and themselves entered into the camp. those who were defeated in the second world war, and i believe that yes, that we have such a luxury that we can rethink different events to look at them, and from the current point of view, andrei nikolayevich, our own experience leads only to one thing, that is, historically masochism in the form of revision ends in its own disaster, so there are things that you don’t need to touch. it would also be nice to understand them that it is one thing to rethink, and another to rewrite. you can look at the math example there, because twice six is ​​12. but when you look, look, he rethinks this one thing. and when you cross out the number two, put me a line one. you are already rewriting, this is a completely different conversation. and i have a rethinking, just today a story happened. when i was the first part of the program, we had a big piece with you, where

russia is china. that's all it is. i think i’ll tell you, probably, today at the end of some story about a bear, well, about russia then i think, no, there was already a rethink about bears more exotic about the dragon began to look at what it means to me in my collection about the dragon, and i found such a completely exotic story. well , i like those, so once a dragon caught a georgian, an armenian and an azerbaijani. and they say, now i'll eat you, but they naturally began to say, no need. there dragon don't eat us. well, the dragon wasn't very hungry. he says ok. see the mountain. come on, run around this mountain, whoever comes running first, i'll sit, i won't eat, and they ran away. after a while. uh, they come running back, and in the same time. sorry for such a car, two georgians and an azerbaijani. here the dragon looks at them like that and asks. and where does

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