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oksana goncharenko tv company ntv more news on our website in the ntv telegram channel there is feedback for today , thanks for your attention. one for all why the victory parade on red square frightened the germans and how kiev's hopes for political isolation on may 9 in russia failed all the peoples of the ussr contributed to the common victory. without memory , the terrorist president canceled may 9 in ukraine, and how fraursula praised zelensky for europe day instead of victory day ukraine courageously
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fights for the ideals of europe in the line of fire, why kiev again returned to the method of anchors and writers and how to deal with a terrorist state to you ukrainian nazis? hello, is this the meeting place on ntv, the place where everything stops? clear core norkin my colleague ivan trushkin. we are working live, we are starting a shortened working week, so once again, by the way, we have not yet had the opportunity to congratulate you on the past holidays. so i just want to remind you that my weeks will be very short, because the guys let me go on friday next friday. ivan sergeevich will be here with uh our guests to sort things out alone. here, and we will meet at the end of the week in the far east, where exactly i
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will tell you a little later in the program today. we wanted to start the holidays with that. well, as for us, this is a holiday for our opponents, at least. a very unpleasant event, in principle, for this event hmm it would be better for them, of course, not to comment on anything. but, probably, because no one can stop so unpleasant and heavy, therefore, they give out a wide variety of comments. well, from such a thing that was said this year, it can be noted. i don't remember his name. maybe you alone will remind, the leaders of the ministry of internal affairs of latvia, so he said that in 2-3 years there will be no more celebrations at all. may 9 is not even celebrated from rushing about. in general , this whole holiday, as it were, descends on her and the memory of him. he thinks it's simple. well, yes. yes no. well, there, as they forget about the red flag, about the red army of the right to war, there will be something like that with a blue flag with asterisks. like here now in ukraine all this is happening. well , we'll talk about this a little later, but we'll talk. now.
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let's give a little more quote so that vanya can go to his new working point, connected with the news domovenok kuzya if who has forgotten the press secretary of the white house. uh, ma'am, this is jean-pierre. here is what she said in connection with may 9, let's hear it. max this week, how do you all know? the end of world war ii in europe and the victory of the united states and allied forces over fascism and aggression on the continent the victories of the united states and allies of the ussr in general said nothing, as in the soviet forces. main. as you know, yes, this is what you remember here, once konstantin alexandrovich said, zalessky's argument. now very simple, as everyone knows so you listen. and well, probably, i'm the only such fool that i don't know everyone knows. well, he changed his mind there, and yes, yes, western buildings. today they ask a question. why valery zaluzhny was deported as head and refuses to communicate with
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the nato command, in fact, the reason for such reasoning is further the napa officers themselves nato admiral, who stated that the prisoner refused to participate in the meeting of the nato military command, even in the mode of e- videoconference. yesterday i received a letter from the ukrainian commander of our friend valeriy zaluzhny, who informed me that due to the tense operational situation on the ground, provoked by russian aggression , he would not be able to take part in our meeting even in the format of a video conference. well, another reason for worrying the nato command was given by alexei danilov, this secretary of the council the national security defense of ukraine , despite all the assurances in kiev last week that there is a plan for a counteroffensive and they are preparing it. it is for which there are many more plans, they are still being developed and it is not a fact that they plan to start in the near future. we have several options, they are all in the works, and depending on the circumstances that will be
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taken at one time or another, one or another decision is not required to expect or not to expect a counteroffensive. we've already proven that we are a nation, an invincible nation, and we will definitely do it thanks to our partners in particular. and against such a background, chinese diplomacy went on the offensive, the minister of foreign affairs of this country qingan met in beijing with the american ambassador. after that, he said here it is necessary to quote that the united states lost the chance to normalize relations even when xi met with biden, but it was. and if you remember in bali in november of last year, but that's not all, then the tsingan went on a european tour and there e numerous statements in the old in the light, he began to say that if europeans or americans start to drive against chinese companies suspected of some kind of sanctions to help russia, this will not go unanswered, and without a very tough one. there is a normal economic exchange between chinese and russian companies and this cooperation should not be violated we are categorically against unilateral sanctions against china if they are introduced, china
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will react harshly and strongly we will also protect the legitimate and legal interests of our country and our companies and on this background unexpectedly sharply subdued by the british, who , if you remember, were against any peaceful settlement in ukraine in any form. and then suddenly the head of the british foreign office says approximately the opposite things. i do not think that in this situation we should behave like a dog in the manger. we know that xi has significant influence on vladimir putin if he can use this influence to achieve sovereignty territorial integrity non-use of nuclear weapons no threat of nuclear weapons then why should we be critical of this intervention? well, after all those news, back to may 9th and everything that is possible around, because there is such a process now. uh, well, it's traditional for the western press. well, now in recent years, ukrainians have also been reading some signals related to
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the holding of parades. this is how they treat may 9th, but here this reading process began much earlier this year, because if you remember when it was with us, in my opinion, it's somewhere else in april it was announced that we will not be holding any events related to the first of may in moscow since may 1, there was a whole company there, look putin was afraid it would not be time. well. now, of course, they pretend that they didn’t write anything like that, nevertheless, there were serious expectations that there would be no parade, especially after the story of the attack on the kremlin , which was carried out by drones. there was a story that no one would come. in general, as you know, yes, everyone watched yesterday and the parade passed and the guests arrived. it causes serious annoyance. well, then this company begins. why does this annoy us so much? let's get a look. the victory parade this year took place without an air unit ; it was canceled in advance from tanks. only the legendary soviet t-34 appeared on red square. also participating in the parade were armored vehicles
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of armored personnel carriers, s-400 missile systems, iskander m. and yars complexes. some experts explained the absence of heavy armored vehicles in moscow by the fact that it is now more needed in the zone of its american journalists. right began to gloat. before this military parade there was a lot of uncertainty and anxiety. only one tank was presented and it was a world war ii tank. so no modern tanks , the central element, of course, remained intercontinental ballistic missiles. so they are still trying to make everyone understand that russia is nuclear, the power of everything in the parade. more than 8,000 military personnel were involved in red square, of which for the first time in the ranks were participants in a special military operation. vladimir putin in his speech before the start solemn march compared the events of the middle of the last century with the current situation, any ideology of superiority is inherently disgustingly criminal and deadly. however, western globalist elites will still
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assert their exclusivity. they pit people and split society. it looks like they forgot. what did the insane claims of the nazis for world domination lead to? they forgot who defeated this monstrous total evil, who stood up as a wall for their native land and did not spare their lives for the sake of the liberation of the peoples of europe. that in the west the most belligerent comment was made by german chancellor olaf scholz, while in washington they limited themselves to the standard story about the fact that the united states won world war ii schultz in the european parliament. called to continue the fight with russia to the bitter end in 2002 km to the north-east of here. putin is parading with soldiers, tanks and missiles, we should not be intimidated by such a show of force. we must remain true to our support for ukraine for as long as it takes, the message of this
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may 9th should not be that comes from moscow the message is that the past will not be able to defeat the future surprise for many was the visit to moscow of almost all the leaders of the cis countries armenia belarus kazakhstan tajikistan kyrgyzstan turkmenistan and uzbekistan most of these countries are also members of the csto. after laying flowers at the tomb of the unknown soldier , the foreign guests were invited to an informal dinner in the faceted chamber. it is very important that the leaders of the countries of the commonwealth of independent states have gathered here in moscow today. i see in this is a grateful attitude to the feat of our ancestors. they fought together and won together. all the peoples of the ussr contributed to the common victory. the arrival of the cis leaders in moscow was an unpleasant surprise for ukraine , the local press was indignant that the quote was a guest. putin will have more
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than one president at the parade, a rare statement released and ukrainian myth consider the participation of leaders of said foreign countries in a public event along with a war criminal who boasts of unleashing a war in europe on a scale never seen before times of the second world war, as well as a moral and unfriendly step towards ukraine , a manifestation of disregard for the ukrainian people, who are fighting for their survival and freedom. well, that is, no matter how many tanks, this is bad one tank - this is bad. very suspicious. so, a long parade. it's badly short. and yesterday was probably the shortest pair in recent years, which is also very bad. well, the leaders of the cis countries have arrived there. this is generally something main, what kind of signal did we send, if we vladivostovich was sent somewhere. the main signal here is i think it is obvious to everyone that it is the arrival in moscow of the leaders of a number of commonwealth states, er, that they
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have arrived. uh, this one is the main event. uh, the fact that it's time for the parade to pass is a ritual. so this is an important signal for the citizens of the russian federation for those who, let's say , support the russian world outside the russian federation, this is more of an internal story. but the arrival of the leaders of seven states. this was already a really important signal for everything. international community and uh, as can be seen from the annoyed comments, this signal is quite clearly considered and and. well, they are not delighted about this, they are delighted - this is one thing, if they considered the signal, and they read the t -signal, as the choice of the country, if so , because if they arrive on may 9 and she is on the podium next to the russian president . they chose a side in the confrontation. how does the western press interpret it, does this mean that everyone who came there? now they will start building another country from american embassies try, then sanctions, then not sanctions somewhere
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, trade restrictions, somewhere some kind of opposition will abruptly start to start trying. here, just their arrival and at the same time. ah, steps forward. the same sanctions pressure is a demonstration. that's the same western community that you guys don't think. if we do something to you, we meet the western community halfway, that we even swear an oath to you, and this is just a demonstration of the fact that they are trying not to swear. nothing, nothing else will be news about georgia today. let's even say. can i now i’ll shove this in, because, as it were, well, with the georgians we somehow didn’t succeed for a long time, it was strange to wait for someone from, uh, georgia, and suddenly, please, today such a statement, but the visa for citizens of georgia is canceled a ban on direct flights of our aircraft and today's statement has not arrived. putin years heydar. they are his this grandiose event. not only, by the way, in azerbaijan and putin is very like that. well, as
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a human being, i don't know, m-m, warm made a statement talking about why he is very greatly respected her gave. that is, no matter how they arrived, but here i don’t feel some kind of catch. ugh on the other side. as far as if i remember correctly, until the evening of the eighth of may, we did not have at all, so to speak, until the eighth of may, but that there would be so many. there is only a defeat of the steam. well, yes, that's all. yes, gevorg brings down, what kind of signal is such a heel. and this itself is a really important signal such a special operation of a kind, if we are talking about the arrival of leaders. yes ah, which shows that western policy in the post-soviet space, but not that it failed, but in general it lost immediately i’ll give you the opposite opinion, yes, which flashed in the telegram channels. so they arrived, and now they will demand some from russia. uh, it means that concessions are demanded there. where do they do, as it was written. well, that doesn't
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mean we will. just watch, really. there, the same cnn, for example, wrote that the parade became, uh, proof of putin's isolation because they came to see him. there are some central asians, it’s not clear who, but the main gynecology machine arrived in kiev fondlyay of europe, in fact , once again, yes, the united states has invested a lot of diplomatic economic rhetorical efforts in creating a post-council. the space is hostile to russia in order to connect the strange post-soviet space to a common line, or to isolate russia, and ideally in general to create a second front for us there, blinken, then fly to central asia with pashinyan on this topic, they talked and so on. and we showed that it won't work. and that means all channels of gray imports that go through trans-meeting. asia will go further. we are nobody, nothing will happen to us. but now, let him say, no one will do anything there. well, by the way, to interrupt you, because he does not understand. about what speech not for the first time
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hyper. they're trying to kill. yes, sometimes. i understand that you look no one is strong, that you can’t eat with you from time to time, as if just with us they will vote there and that’s it. it does not need a pragmatic victory cheers everything calms us, victory is just a success victory will be complete when we win within the limits and our last short literally moment. i remind you that as for the need to abolish the visa regime with georgia, i have been saying for the last a certain number of years it has been constantly proved , let's your contagion that it is, in general, trying to show in this way both russia and china that the average asia on its side, that, let's say so, control over the central asian states of the republics partially remains with russia , which is significant in the world. and especially for china
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, i remind you that there is information that e the central asian leaders on the sixteenth will all go to china together, that is, this story that they came collectively to moscow, it was coordinated with beijing , beijing would be interested in this. they also agreed with them. beijing has, and also a controlling stake. there , viktorovich’s telegram channels wrote that c almost personally asked everyone to come first to moscow, because then you wouldn’t be talking about china now, here i am living a telegram channel. will they all come, uh, soon in china ah, as for the story with parallel import? and the fact that these leaders came to russia and, possibly, will soon arrive in china, means that they have somehow violated or interrupted their dialogue with the west. this means that they are pursuing a multi-vector policy, and they are dependent on russia a lot from china, you will agree with their appearance. here,
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public appearances are a serious weight. yes, with all these, these are hungry shame and others, but the story that allegedly there will be no problems with parallel imports with anyone, what is, will continue, but this is not true. same kazakhstan is taking actions to restrict parallel imports in russia , according to certain information , because yes, they also cannot but be considered all threats. in fact the picture has been around all over the world. on the one side. yes , the immortal regiment went through more than the strict state somehow passed from the other side in european countries. here, ahead of the planet, the whole of poland, the baltic states in every possible way tried celebrating. and even the symbols of victory day are prohibited. let's see what's going on there. on monday, the city court of berlin finally banned the demonstration on may 9 of the symbols of russia of the soviet flag and the st. george ribbon, but
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the inhabitants of the city still came to the monument to the war to the liberator with these symbols. this is how the local police dealt with the guy who brought the russian flag happy victory day boy to you dear. we are proud of you russia the united states did not prohibit symbols, but acted even more decisively threatening revoke the passports of american veterans of world war ii. if they suddenly gather in moscow on may 9, anatoly antonov told us about this we want the american front-line soldiers to know that russia is proud of them invested in a common victory the hostile policy of the united states does not give the comradeship of the times of the great patriotic war, we consider it our duty to defend the truth, but heroes in poland
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, our diplomats were not allowed to honor the memory of the soviet soldiers of the liberators on may 9, sergei andreev, who arrived at the warsaw cemetery, was surrounded by an aggressive crowd. soviet symbols were strictly banned on may 9 in moldova, but there were so many st. george ribbons on the streets that day that the police simply did not have time to fine everyone. the invasion of the immortal regiment. about 50,000 people came to chisinau. and why is it forbidden to wear a ribbon now, we will talk well. in latvia, any commemorative events were banned these days, but people bravely gathered at the monuments with flowers. as a result, the police detained 17 people, opened 23 administrative and four criminal cases. will always leave. dad. this useless, too, border estonian. narva, anyone who dared to celebrate
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may 9, was waiting for a fine of 1,200 euros, but on the opposite bank of the river, already in the russian city of ivangorod. they put up a big screen, where they broadcast, including the victory parade . look at it from the estonian side , a lot of people in power came with the screen , they could not do anything. it was only enough to attach a banner with the words putin a war criminal to the city tower, which did not stop the residents from looking across the river and the evening gala concert. nicholas viktorovich what if we read about symbols as a symbol that bans do not work , no matter how much you try to introduce, there is a fine of 3-4,000 euros for people, anyway this holiday is certainly important, but that is precisely why they are trying to impose more and more bans. pay attention in germany banned the soviet flag. that is , we, of course, do not agree, in general, with such
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an approach, but in the ban on the russian one you can find some miserable logic of today's political establishment in germany, and the soviet ones are a flag. why a, because quietly need to be cut out, in general, the victory of the soviet flag was banned by the baltic states for a long time. if you remember, that is, quietly. this is the tactic of digesting a frog, uh , on a slow fire. they do it and do it on their own. they are absolutely logical to destroy the victory and privatize it. here you showed, er, the speech of the press secretary of the white house, after all, in essence. uh, when an enterprise is privatized, people want to make a profit, which, for example, the state budget received before, when the americans say, now the united states of america has won and allies. they want all the historical profit in the form of gratitude for information to be received only by them, and this is exactly what our president said. e inequality. they
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predict, they build. they are not going to give it up, that is, there is the united states and there are allies, that is, the rest of the world to varying degrees. therefore, we need to understand that they have embarked on these rails. rewriting history. eh, the digestion of historical memory, they are not going to move off these rails. they have no other going to move out. eh, from this railway track. we must understand that the generation changes, well, life is so arranged. yes, and there will be less and less of those who directly, in general, remember those events. well, now that's when we talk about veterans. even those who spoke with vladimir putin there yesterday are colleagues there. i watched the tv broadcast. they explained what kind of people they are. how old are they already over 90-90. well, it is clear that they were still teenagers during the war. well, but all these medals they now got for service in the red or in the soviet army , later they will be less and less. this means that
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it will be more and more difficult for us to somehow support this in the minds of young people in our country. i'm not talking about abroad. you understand that maybe this is a problem that we hmm well, we can not keep all the time here in the area of ​​attention in which we need it, so as not to forget it. only, unfortunately, time is really inexorable for veterans. today there are at best 90. yes , but see if we line up correctly historical memory within our country, how to do it? because the process is complex . here, yes, we take a more distant historical event, when there are no veterans left, for example, the battle of borodino, the battle of kulikovo. we don’t have two points of view on the battle of kulikovo; we don’t have points of view that it was wrong. no, there was no action. there such discussions we defended independence. we defeated the aggressor. this is a positive phenomenon that contributed to the formation of a national
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character. yes, the russians are gone, here is 812, too most so. here we should here you consider this, and the policy of education. she was built. right. that is, we bypassed some of these zones here, so that our geopolitical enemies can get into the history of the second world war, we recognized non-existent guilt, which we do not have. the concept of we are good, we liberated europe, but stalin is bad, and at the same time, we still shot, supposedly polish officers are not allowed, like a bull was not shot. and listen, let's not go deep. now putin would talk about it, so look here, is there such a thing? perhaps a temporary paradox, that is, events that have already passed a long time ago, but we correctly , as it were, approached it gradually and formed this attitude and therefore the patriotic war of the twelfth year. we have
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more or less somehow smoothly met. eh, in their heads. here. we, as you said, allowed our adversaries to interfere in this history of ours. yes, not much time has passed. and they still can, which means they screw up something there, so now i want to ask vladimir a sheep, and our new regions there, as if no time had passed at all from the point of view of history, literally a moment , despite the fact that it was huge. there were huge efforts to change the consciousness of history, too, just like what is happening now in the same zaporozhye region. here you can say some changes are visible to you. yes, of course, well, you need to understand that for 30 years, in fact, the occupation. maybe we were torn away from a single state, they explained that now our brothers are in russia and all our relatives are now foreigners, of course. it's different as the occupation can not be called. so, in these realities, the story was rewritten several times at first smoothly, but according to the principle of this frog and slow fire, they did
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not explain everything so unambiguously. there, uh, they threw corpses, victory was expensive, at a high price it was then offended, then something else. and then, accordingly, they came to that already literally. i was an adviser to the minister of education from the tenth to the fourteenth year. i took out dozens of truckloads of waste paper that brainwashed children to such an extent, because even here a sane person who knows at least something will naturally understand that this is a complete lie. well , for understanding, the reason for the second world war was that the terrible communists attacked, in principle, no nazis in order to take control of the territory of ukraine . yes, these are school textbooks, eighth, ninth, tenth, eleventh grade , plus or minus. well, the fact is that here's something else, which is interesting, at first it was practiced in galicia, there lions in the french ternopil e, then it smoothly moved to the central one. here, a donetsk luhansk reached zaporozhye there later, but the essence was simple, absolutely serious. it was explained no matter what the ussr was part of the ussr yes, and that ukraine was already part of the soviet union well, in
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general, respectively. why should we attack ? it doesn't matter what exactly the nazis attacked the soviet union, they were the opposite, but the children lived in this paradigm. they sincerely believed that this is how it is and, accordingly , all the evil from the east, these children had sincere surprise when they began to learn history, as such, when we began to take them to a large russia, where they come, they look at the same monument of the millennium of russia in veliky novgorod and suddenly they see that it turns out that yaroslav the wise is there, yes, or vladimir the great all together stand in the pantheon of precisely russian e, tsars of russian princes of russian emperors and so on. and this is a single common, but for understanding, of course, this year. unfortunately due to security issues. our immortal regiment did not pass, but last year the average percentage of participation in the liberated part of the zaporozhye region in the immortal regiment was order. five percent of the population now represents 30% of the population goes out despite the fact that the elderly cannot go out to someone working. and this despite the fact that at that time, for example, the zaporozhye nuclear power plant was under the control of kiev, and there people were fired for participating in the immortal
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regiment, part of the medicine was under control. in kiev, people were also fired or banned and demanded to go to work so that they would not participate this year. here is the number of events that took place with us and are being held, it is estimated by many dozens. uh, well, starting there from the windows of victory yeah ending with an immortal regiment there in the online version and everything else there for people. this is very important because the war is over. why , why, here are the sympathies on these textbooks, about which you spoke and with the youth - this also all works unconditionally. no, the fact is that they work with young people. here's yesterday. we were at the victory parade, in fact, on red square, and we have 80% of the zaporozhye delegation. it was the youth, it was the boys of the girls there up to twenty. well, a maximum of 25 years, that is, it was important for them be present. participate and see all this, and moreover, they themselves have such a living energy all the time. this young yes is boiling, and let's do something like that, but let's do this. we have now reburied the remains of soviet soldiers, we must understand that
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a line passed along the zaporizhzhya line. vatan, that is, in honor of the god of war there, and even ancient, and, uh, why? because e for e the same armor of the same high-alloy steel and so on , manganese deposits were needed precisely in zaporozhye, dnepropetrovsk regions, therefore, hitler gave the command to make simply fortified areas there, colossal in their power, at least 600-odd thousand people died in a small area of ​​several tens of kilometers. that is, there are these reburials. we have a constant post-war years going on and they did not stop, even now , under shelling and other moments , these works carefully continue, search work is also underway. as such, people remember very well, people know their grandfathers, great-grandfathers, and so on. we didn’t have any banderlogs, yes, well, how in western ukraine there in galicia and so on, therefore, not only western, alas, the continuity of who is, who are your relatives, who is the hero, people have no considerations, as such? well, i remember everything eremenko compotes remember for the motherland for stalin, this is also
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a zaporozhets yes, and a lot of other people who just came out of the people are his you me. uh, how i wish i could listen to what you 're saying, because it, and there i don't know , makes me believe that the situation is not really ossified. yes, on the other hand, of course i shudder every time, when there are people who remember, sooner or later there will be no people left who people remember. let's now make just one word 2008, but yushchenko's times are all banned there for the st. george ribbon, they also talk there. i will interrupt you. now you can talk about it, because we want to say separately how this applies to the remaining parts of ukraine, we will continue a short pause. bright
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let's start with the next witty proposals in quotation marks from poland, they concluded that from now on they will officially call our kaliningrad in their own way, krulivets, such a decision was pushed through by the polish commission for the standardization of geographical names , the rationale is very interesting, which means it says that a large russian city is near the border with poland which is dedicated to the russian revolutionary kalinin causes attention, an emotional negative character. and generally associated with the russian world. and for poland at the moment this is unacceptable. well today it has become. it is known that russia is denouncing the treaty on conventional armed forces in europe, we will find out how yes, all such a decision was made by vladimir putin and by decree published on the portal of official legal information to oversee this process of denosation in steam. you see, there will be a deputy head, mida sergey ryabkov, i will remind you that this is the contract. yes, he regulated everything, set quotas for the number of battle tanks, helicopters, artillery aviation, in countries that
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actually signed this agreement here notably, none of the nato countries treaty. yes, everything was unaffected, unlike russia and ukraine, kazakhstan and belarus , in 2007 moscow suspended its participation there. and now the whole document will seem to be completely dynased. well, in the united states, apparently, to divert attention from may 9, as the fire of victory over e-fascism. e declared the same day the day of victory over russian cyber-espionage; this was done by the us department of justice, which stated that it had thwarted a long-term one. so the russian spy operation, which russia means was preparing several decades. what the agency is talking about claims that russia has spread a malicious computer virus snick, that is, a snake on devices, in at least 50 countries, including the member state and with its help moscow throughout. and for twenty years, the quote has been engaged in cyber espionage, collecting confidential information and laundering it through a network of infected computers in the united states to reveal
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the virus. again, allegedly succeeded with the help of a special program developed by the federal bureau of investigation, which is not what will andrei ivanovich do to avoid celebrating may 9 so well, taking into account what many american congressmen think. china has been leading for 2,000 years. e fight with the united states, then our twenty-year-old company is quite. i think maybe so let's get back to the topic we discussed in the previous parts of the program. now we will show you the material e, telling about how may 9 was held precisely in kiev, because, as you know, several years ago, if in the fifteenth year, in my opinion, they abandoned the then ukrainian authorities. here is some kind of celebration of victory day the way it was in the soviet union in general. now , just the day before, a decision was made. what exactly? since may 9, do it now europe's money in ukraine now i will read it to you. e, a holiday symbolizing the historical unity of all europeans.
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the terrorist ukrainian president zelensky last monday took another step to break with the common history of the soviet legacy. today. today i submitted a bill to the verkhovna rada of ukraine, which are proposed to establish may 8 as a day of memory and victory over nazism in the second world war of 1939-1945. we will never forget the contribution of the ukrainian people to the victory over nazism and will not allow anyone to erase the role of ukrainians in this victory of our people of that generation, which we keep the memory of in almost every our family, for the sake of supreme assurance that we are ready to accept documents in an expedited manner, just 9 in may, the main gynecology of europe, ursula vonderlein, arrived in kiev. she praised zelensky for his diligence for him. let me warmly welcome your decision to make 9 may europe day in ukraine kiev is the beating heart of today's european values. ukraine is at the forefront of protecting everything
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that we europeans do. pressing our freedom and our democracy, our freedom and thought and word ukraine courageously fights for the ideals of europe despite the upcoming postponement of victory day, many ukrainians traditionally continue to celebrate it. and poltava, but ukrainians estimate the transfer of holidays ambiguously. is it right that it is necessary to postpone the celebration of victory day? it’s wrong, because our holiday is may 9 , in principle, i didn’t celebrate it before, to be honest, i didn’t perceive it as some kind of holiday. now i think we 100% need to move away from everything connected with the soviet union with our past, go to europe and share european values. here is one of the european values ​​lately. how are you? remember, this is to consider that there the first or second ukrainian front is a kind of the site where the wars of the second
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world war took place, where only ukrainians fought. well, this, as it were, already periodically appears as an argument and is not lazarevna. that's what worries me. here we have shown people who are already elderly and here is the girl at the end of the young future for her. what do you think, yes, the future is definitely behind her and for the next 40 years, that's for sure. here you take it. here is the traditional biblical figure of 40 years, you have to look around to come to some other conclusions. now 40 years, most likely will. uh, growing russophobia, growing hatred for the three ukraines and away from everything that concerns moscow, pass russophobia. and everything that concerns moscow here, i can somehow put your logic in my head. the girls themselves, who i am without ukrainians themselves fought against the nazi troops, they refuse their own victory. how is that? that's
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in my head, not well, it's absolutely everything. uh, the baby doesn't move any further, because oddly enough. this is directly surprising zelensky, for all his unexpected bright and russophobia went, actually in your paradigm. that's how they argued for so long that the victory of the great patriotic war is, first of all , russian, it is the soviet people. this is the victory of the soviet people. they said that it is russian. if you listen to vladimir putin. even now, on may 9, it was again said about the feat of the soviet people . and that's where they went, which calms me in this situation. well, at least somehow it's something that absolutely did not hinder them laying on. the police were engaged in the fact that, on the contrary, they ensured order, so that no one interfered, mainly for the elderly in kiev , to lay flowers. in odessa there were people of different
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ages, the police also ensured order, that is, they did not interfere. uh, unlike latvia where people were arrested in ukraine, there was no such joy, which is not as harmful. yes, i was struck only by the shelz. here is the scholza. i didn't expect that kind of harshness. no , it’s like what it was in berlin, on the ninth of may, the russians were allowed to carry any flags with russian with red. come to the reich and go there is what was always forbidden on other days, there are very wild queues to visit the arrest. now they have not only banned people from approaching the table, they have banned the red flag , they have banned the russian flag and allowed the ukrainian flag. and above all, this is why europe has said its word, zelensky said. nothing surprising. i have vladimirovich for me. i interrupted you then. you started just telling the story back in 2008, yes, that
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is, in fact, here, if we speak there in about all e historical memory of other moments, that is, such a fetish has been erected among us. yes, celebrations in the literal sense , it was the celebration of the holodomor, yes, which was turned into a brainwasher, that is, they came up with more and more terrible stories that absolutely do not correspond to history. e. well, sorry for the tautology, i understood, yes, that is , a book of memory was being published, i could not get a book of memory of the zaporozhye region for two months. wrote official requests. he asked for a hut from the institute of memory and so on. they didn’t give me when i achieved it, then it turned out that absolutely everyone was recorded as a victim of hunger, including a 107-year-old grandmother who died simply of old age, a man who was stabbed to death in a drunken fight, a man who was run over by a tram a man who drowned in the sea, a man who was killed by lightning directly by a blow and after all , a man who was killed by a bull at the end of august. 1933, when, according to the official version, all their children had already finished eating, yes, that is , what was told to children specifically in kiev schools. uh, they gave assignments, uh,
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to draw pictures of how mothers eat children. you imagine the changes in physics. i say everything that is bad, yanina. i didn’t interrupt you, they don’t interrupt you. well, don't arrange it, i'm maidan no, don't interfere, why i'm coming back for the events of thirty-second thirty-three, they were waiting for almost everyone to leave. yes, only a few remained, and then they began to lie, just in full before that. my relatives lived, uh, and they told me how it was, yes, at that time, specifically, as it were, yes , the great patriotic war has a st. george's ribbon. do you have any idea how will develop? here, yes, everything is young lady. well , of course, i didn’t see ter in the houses. in europe , this young lady clearly has a future , you obviously understand, a strawberry or a movie, which can only be healed
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by a worthy, who is worthy. she's just a reflection of her time in that reflection is what people turn into. here we will create normal conditions for these people, they will remember their history and become a big theme and people. uh, can it really be for a creature, but, for example, uh, there is a lot to do with christmas just up to 19, if here you are talk about the ritual there, the burning of the french , chekhov, slovaks, and so on, were considered for so , about plus or minus the same people. it's us who argued the french heard about such burning, it's us fisi. the czech was destroyed, so there can be no use for us, there is only one meaning - this is the day of a big victory over the absolute it will be so it will be so
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in the post-soviet space, but for ukraine this struggle between the conditionally russian narrative, the correct narrative and the historical narrative, is not a working thing, because ukrainians were just burned and destroyed. and they have it right, but they don't remember it. their. it makes you forget the big hello in the education system. yes, in ukraine, which is now and therefore the main thing here will win, the one in whose information space it turns out that ukraine after the words wanted more. i would like to return to this train, which travels along the rails. uh, well, they do everything systemically, they change the language, they changed the history. uh, they are trying to change the culture, and now they have come to the holiday of february 23rd. possible in ukraine note? no march 8 can be celebrated? well , may 9 is almost gone, that is, even the holidays should be different in order to break the people into two parts, religion. same. now the church is different, everything should be different, you understand, everything
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so that a person does not feel his closeness. this is one people, so everything was different. here, they go straight ahead, according to the list they reached the ninth of may, they use the current situation as a pretext, but in latvia estonia has long been beaten on the victory day without waiting for a coup in ukraine, not a special military operations are simple. somewhere with different terms they go, so there are still really different languages. excuse more different languages ​​and religions still a little bit. well, as it were , half of the population is also russian in latvia and estonia. well, in lithuania, maybe less, so we just have systematic work before us. here lies such a little book, how to tear a people apart and make another people out of it, and they just go go go go go go go stop it can only be a special military operation. that's just no more no other way. let's do it now. you remain for the entire program. now a short break. we will continue to perfectly know and
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move easily, absolutely free of charge, call by phone or order on our website leomax.ru. this is the meeting place on ntv, the place where everything becomes clear. we will now continue our conversation. i just once again then i did not give you specifics, let me remind you that this saturday and sunday. we are with you, uh, dear viewers. we can meet in the far east in vladivostok in the fiscal hall on saturday and in the city's palace of culture on sunday in khabarovsk here, but now before we let's continue about those events that were arranged for us at the holiday by our ukrainian opponents. here is the piece that, uh , you and i have already sent the news about georgia, especially while the program was on. i was walking there, more additional news appeared, yes, well, let's talk about everything in order then. vladimir putin today by his decree canceled a four-year ban for russian
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airlines on flights to georgia at the same time , our tour operators are now allowed to sell all sorts of tickets there, and from may 15, the visa regime for georgian citizens who are going to russia for up to 90 days. that is, if a person is just going on a tourist trip , a georgian citizen does not need a visa, if he goes to work or study, you still need to get a visa, but even here it is interesting to look at the reaction of the georgian authorities. true, it should be noted here that this is the reaction of one part, this reaction of the most zorobishvili, the president of georgia , who many consider to be closely connected with france and the united states. here i will quote another russian provocation - renewal. wave communication with georgia and the abolition of the visa regime for georgian citizens is unacceptable as long as russia continues its aggression against ukraine and the occupation of our territories , madame president said, that means others. let's get some more news today , transneft announced an attempted terrorist attack on the oil pipeline. friendship happened all at the filling point,
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bryansk. according to the representative of the company , there were no victims, the special services are now investigating what happened. well, today the governor of the voronezh region alexander gusev announced that early in the morning at the military object in the object of its area , an attack attempt by two enemy drones was foiled. early this morning, an attack attempt by two enemy uavs was thwarted at the voronezh military facility as a result of the world impact, one of them deviated from the course and fell, the second was destroyed by fire , interaction with law enforcement agencies and the military command continues , a set of additional measures is being implemented aimed at ensuring the security of the situation personal control. and the most discussed ukrainian terrorist attack is, of course, saturday story. well, yes. we will now move on to this topic. and in the morning, well, in the morning of last saturday, it became known that an attempt was made to assassinate a terrorist act in the nizhny novgorod region, zakhar
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prilepina. well, in my opinion, represent this person is not necessary. ah, i remind you, it means that a month ago he was killed in ladlen, a tatar military commissar was killed last year by daria dugina and last year the fsb reported that an attempt was prevented, but an attempt on the life of konstantin malafeev that is, if line up all these names in one row, it turns out. eh, it's very like that. a transparent trend, that is, we are talking about the fact that they are trying to physically eliminate people who take such a very clear ideological position. uh, that is, it can be called their ideological opponents of kiev and the leaders of their public opinion. naturally. naturally, because they have a very large , sort of like, uh, audience that listens to them and listens to them, who believes that these people have very serious public authority in fact. so it is
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and eat. here they just begin to try to eliminate them physically. let's look at the materials following on the morning of may 6, the suv in which zakhar prilepin was driving was blown up by a mini in the nizhny novgorod region at that moment the writers of the just russia party for the truth were returning from a trip to donbass as a result of an explosion. an assistant and saratnikov died, sticking to the humiliation of the zvukan alexander himself a public figure. received a lung injury and well, they did it. he is already on the mend we are working slowly and we will win win, we will continue to win all evil will be scolded and powdered with the left sergeyevich, no obstacles frighten us , the alleged terrorist who attempted to assassinate prilepin has already been caught, this is alexander permyakov, a spokesman for donbass, during interrogation. he admitted that he worked for the ukrainian special services and was assigned to kill the prilepiped. 2018 was with the ukrainian special services for 22 years.
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zakhara prilippin drove into the territory of the russian federation the method of murder remote explosion with two anti-tank moments in kiev, the terrorist attack against prilippin was commented mocking quotes, officially we cannot but confirm or deny the involvement of the hut by someone or another outside, which happens to the invaders and their henchmen. the end of the quote, while the sbu reminded that for the russians it was on fire and will be on fire. so alexander well , first of all, you somehow managed to talk to the arrivals, no, yes, well, how is his state of mind. the main state is stable dynamics, a positive mood gives an order, then, in general, in short, now the most important task is to keep it on sick leave at home, so that he escaped at the front. you can here you love
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to explain here, everything in different logins, yes , the logic of war and the logic of peace. here, try to get into the logic of terror and explain why people like zakhar prilepin, we will talk about this later. that's what they become the target of terrorists. well, with regard to zakhar, here, as it were, you don’t have to look far. well, what a threat he poses to kiev. starting in the fourteenth year , an internationally recognized writer e a number of all possible national and not only awards, translated into dozens of languages ​​around the world. well , a status person known from the point of view of, as it were, ukraine and the west, takes a machine gun and goes to fight donbass. of course, this is like a bone in the throat, but he does not only fight. he also talks, he writes books. that is, zakhar is a man of meaning, first of all, uh, the fact that he formed a battalion in the dpr under zakharchenko that he is now with his battalion. it's just that he usually tries to do it when he speaks, but
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most importantly, he is a man of meanings, by the way, like a tatar lapin, like daria dugina is people who gave rise to meanings are the most scarce commodity in our confrontation, by the way. that's why in donetsk i just draw a conclusion then. what a second i am just so that people know in donetsk in the seventeenth year this conversation took place. naturally, in my presence, or vladimirovich zakharchenko himself, told zakharov prilepipedny that according to intelligence he was in the first five persons for liquidation in the dpr, together with the head of state, two vice-premiers , legendary battalions who fought organized the state, zakhar was there and and already in this sense he was in the first five of the goal. he lives with it all the time. that's when. tell me, because there is also a popular belief that we are losing the information war there. well, or not enough, somehow skillful we are doing it. so, if the targets died in the spring , the second surplus just showed they died
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in the spring in battle, that is, the targets of the terrorists, it turns out that people become just that. uh, apparently, they are conducting an information war well, because you said that some yes, and those who died, and that’s the way and the other way around our side. that is, here the leaders of public opinion, but there they can not cope with them. so let's viktor zhozevich elections. and the goal in this case is done on the basis of not such, m-m calculation, firstly, it must be the leader of public opinion, as already mentioned. secondly, and this must be a well-known person and in russia in ukraine i will explain why in a second, a few seconds and thirdly, this must be a person who is not very well guarded, you know, by officials of a high-ranking general or some it is very difficult to get to him even as a political leader of a military man, because it was not so easily given away, her dugin zakhara prilepin, as we are.
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here, uh, or tatarskaya vladlena and a number of other people, they are poorly guarded or not guarded at all , there really are journalists who are under protection in russia, but most are not under protection, therefore, when kharchenko was under protection, so no less. this, therefore, is not the first choice of target, including when choosing a target, it is also undoubtedly considered by any special service security level issue. it is considered the easier. the goal, the higher yes it means, why is it important for them that this person be known both in ukraine and in russia, but, because in ukraine such a terrorist attack is used as uh hmm in order to raise morale to show what they have long arms long arms and their capabilities, what can they do on the territory of the enemy , which they believe in russia, that they can get different people, and in depth, and in russia the goal, and instill panic fear among their leaders in public opinion, this is what they
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seek and this is how many others before them actually acted, and this is how we act literally. ah, a few months ago , witnessed the attack on the writer on salman with guns in the united states, which was inspired by the fatwa of the iranian leadership. well, the streams did not take part in any hostilities, it is not an attempt , but to limit the dissemination of information that interferes with these people, who are the three people whom we spoke of the murdered tatar military commander daria dugina, although there in fact in this case, it is likely that her father alexander was the target with a high degree of probability, but, nevertheless , in this case, the attempted assassination of zakhar prilepin was all these people who were the victims. they participated in, from the point of view of kiev, anti-ukrainian propaganda. here in this anti-ukrainian machine, yes, that is, they were well known both with us and with them
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, and they were poorly guarded, that is, all these factors seemed to be concentrated on them. well, in fact, allevich said almost everything i wanted to say. i just then i'll ask all the same to say. the first main goal of terrorist attacks of any always everywhere is intimidation. it's fear throughout fear. by the way, i feel and see this fear, including among ordinary people who surround me after the drone attack. after the explosion of the same prilepiped and so on, the second. excuse me, no meanings are sticky, no arcs, never spawned. you read dugin, you listened to him, you have nothing. yes, i don’t know, at 90 he was fond of the philosophy of alistair, crawl, this is such a satanic golden lgbtshnitsa. yes, what and now he is orthodox sides? yes, they wanted to kill him. just a famous person, because everyone knows her . no matter how good she is, bad there. i don't read. i don't like his books, i don't like prilepin himself. ask, lord, well, that's a problem. donbass no wait a minute i want books.
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yes, i will tell my opinion, including this as well as lemons. i don't like his books, but lemons was a well-known personality, if he hadn't died of him, you too would probably have tried to kill him, because the main goal is to kill a famous person and naturally. yes, it counts opportunities can be killed or not? wait a minute alexandrovich don't get in. now, please, in dispute. that's it. well, then you can find, look at, then you can find , but a very famous person, relatively speaking, there is some kind of popular singer or actor there, and who, in general, may not be speaking now antonov, i see, he does not do anything. there, political statements do not create parties there, as zakhar sticks there. yes , some time ago. if the goal is only to intimidate, if you remove this is what alexander is talking about yuryevich said, yes, the struggle with meaning is possible only then like this. you and generally anyone then. on transport, it is more efficient.
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i participate, well, firstly, of course, a person must have some position , you know, very many in the donbass disputed how prilepin fought in the donbass. here are his books , too, when he described in the anuda, also very many in the donbass perceived negative, but his position was set at the table. i've read the reviews, whatever. so, where the main thing is that these people, really, do not interrupt. damn it is possible should i express my position or not? well, be correct. so that's all that where did you get it from, so in this situation, these people had some kind of position dugin and sticky, it doesn’t matter that they have no meaning. once again i repeat the arc did not generate, they wanted to kill his daughter. it doesn't matter to him. what a literary work, he had a position assigned to the bass fought, he was for the donbass, so, of course, first of all these people were tried. okay bye. here we have this dispute, let's not say it went out, you can let's do it like this, we will show a little bit, on may 6, appeared directly. interview with the head of the intelligence department of ukraine this is kirill
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budanov. we regularly quote him . it is interesting that he gave an interview back in april, and it appeared exactly the same day with an attempt to kill a prilepiped. there he says that he is going to continue to kill russians anywhere in the world, let's go in full. what they call terrorism we call liberation and it started, it's not because i went crazy and started killing people in moscow it happened because they invaded our country back in 2014. don't go on on this topic, all i will comment on is that we killed russians and will kill russians anywhere in the world until the complete victory of ukraine. you see, i fuck the joint headquarters and the united states itself , the journalists were a little freaked out when they heard such a statement and asked the state department do they know there that their ukrainian partners are so bloodthirsty ? this is not very good and so on, but budanov was heard very well in the kremlin and conclusions were made. the first is a really
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monstrous statement, the second is a statement and said by mr. budanov is a direct confirmation that the kiev regime does not just sponsor terrorist activity , but is the direct organizer of this activity. this statement by mr. budanov once again confirms the correctness of president putin's decision to launch a special military operation corrected and said that it was not necessary. like this , just like that, smear it in black. well, but i would remain in my position, firstly say terrorist. uh, this is absolutely legal legal terms of the second, what does he mean by ukraine, this stubborn budanov, yes. let's say there is no state in this. without any doubts. just a statement in itself. this is a terrorist act my point of view my point of view. but in ukraine, in addition to budanov
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, there are still tens of millions of people, some of whom i am still convinced, so to speak shares this blasphemy. ah, a monstrous ideology. i literally two words. here in this dispute - it's curious. i am with bogdan and anatolyevich. i don’t agree here, in fact, both dugin and prilepin really generated meanings. really. they had their own audience and still have their own audience. and it's not just an audience of danger - it's a flock. just when if we put this row, remember the americans. mm, during iraq and not only during iraq and not only the americans, in my opinion, the israelis even published such a deck of cards. remember a deck of cards with e acting, and the politicians and ideologists of the regime, and so on, who needed to be, and who needed to be eliminated example of a cow. yes king, well and so on. yes, from my point of view, in ukraine, uh, maybe something similar exists. because
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if we take a close look at both the tatar language and the dogi prilepina, what unites them is, uh, russian nationalists, these are russian nationalists. these are hmm people who actually, well formed never been nationalists. it's generally good when she doesn't read. i read. yes, and you talked zahara bey tried health. i called him my personal psychotherapist. and it all started. he was very reassuring saying, well, this happens. remember there the beginning of the last century. now we will survive and so on. he sympathized, including the ukrainian people called the masses there a tragedy, so that you do not argue over the terms. and now i will say that e is an ideological position. all of these people have precisely because of their ideological position. they try they they fall. falls on sheets of sight
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ukrainian authorities, because both one and the second and the third and, unfortunately, daria dugina, they really, so to speak, are enemies of the current kiev regime. here here is personally personal, because they speak brightly. clearly they are heard. do n't let it be great. some kind of large audience, if we talk about this alexey, this is a completely position position, but this is not the point that i asked when alexei gennadievich reasoned that there are some people in kiev, this is not a state, non-state terrorism. there are some scumbags and everything alexander nikolaevich sat rocking. here's a head explain what you do not agree with. well, in fact, of course we are sitting here, absolutely unable to imagine the structure of ukrainian society and the system of views. and today, well, i get the impression that
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these tens of millions of people who understand everything have brains and take a balanced position in ukraine, there are practically none. that's what ukraine absolutely, as i call it , jumped off the brain, went crazy with hatred anger and desire for revenge, and if there are other people there, and i have quite a lot of subscribers and , uh, friends on facebook, even among them there is nothing like that. i don’t see, that is, you want the population of ukraine, in your opinion, in your interpretation, supports what happened on saturday; according to the best calculations , about three million ukrainians, in every possible way
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to kindle it, and there are comments that i i can do hmm russia is what it is, of course it is necessary. it was to foresee the moment, as far as i remember, when there was an interrogation of this permyakov in the surname, yes, who ate on a prilepiped. here he had such in his testimony. well, as it were, he told me what he got there. message, and then there are already journalists. in general, such facts were also cited there with different links, that several thousand, but just hmm messages in a certain period were sent in our country among ethnic ukrainians whose photo says alexander nikolaevich who lives here, yeah, who, apparently, have something of their own, they have been living here for a long time.
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well, these are such classic sleepers with a list of targets whom they should eliminate, which means that if they went there, as a result , they made some kind of contact to the final top, that is, messages are sent out , people who have been living here for a long time, who want participate in this. quite right. after they respond, work begins more closely with them, and then they go on, let's say, a combat mission. and you wanted a second something else and aha just here i am forced to expose the thesis. it just suggests to me some such, but a stamp from the times of soviet propaganda. and what powerless malice, uh, strike a terrorist blow, a man, and a month and a half we hear about the coming contraception. i'm starting to think until i'm sure what to hear about this counteroffensive. we will be for a very long time , in fact, it is, but it will not start or will have a minimal result or it will be replaced. here we are returning to the thesis, exhausted
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anton valeryevich surprises, because people i i will not, what is called to act as a theoretician of terrorism. but if people who strangely avoid it this. come on, dad. first of all, i disagree categorically with a colleague, he does not see any, that means there are signals that there are dozens or 10 or 5 million there . listen, this is very important, because ukrainian propaganda wants to convince the whole world, including us, that everything there is like one uh, like everything uh, that means everyone is one in a row, uh in her love for russia to hate russia is. well, it's like one of the kind of tennis that moves through the constant sociology that they show, where there is 90%, something not 144%, for all the nasty things that the kiev regime is doing. in fact, of course, it’s not like that. and even nazi germany
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had a colossal number of people who did not support hitler’s policies . well, of course, we didn’t hear in the soviet union or in another country and didn’t see it, not because there was no internet. but because if these people got out and showed themselves, they would simply be finished. therefore, only because, and they really generated insights about their audience, there is no need to belittle anyone. we may disagree with them, but still the symbols of the so-called. that's what is called the russian world. why is there a dispute about a good or bad stickler? this is also an indirect goal, not a direct one, well, an indirect goal , which, uh, will suit these terrorist attacks, or uh, the state of ukraine , the political regime is definitely terrorist that they have adopted. well listen, this is the first says that, firstly, also an important point is dealing with terrorism. those who cannot achieve some goals with other tools, but this is not just powerless malice.
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in fact, there is power in this, because it turns out that in fact it is no longer the case, which, it turns out, is in fact, because every such terrorist attack or attempted terrorist attack. it leads to seething in society, people really start to be afraid that a person will fly somewhere, but people. rightly they are trying to sow distrust in the action of the state, we are doing weak things, including they want to force us to take some action, which will be included later. let's continue this topic about what and how it was done before. has this goal been achieved? whether it was possible to provoke us into something or not us in a couple of minutes. chasing criminals asking for reinforcements to not feed them with honey, here is your husband with friends. seems like all night. give me just a stack of other criminal cases,
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phone or exit on our website leomax.ru, please everything is quiet. this is the meeting place on ntv , the place where everything becomes clear. we continue what the ukrainian special services are doing now. this is such an individual terror, that is, there is some separate people who are organizing a terrorist act. the ukrainian nationalists did the same in the thirties. doing the same thing now now banned groups in the forties . this is not new history. on june 15, 1933, the militant hryhoriy matveyka, now banned in russia by the organization of ukrainian nationalists, killed the minister of internal affairs of poland, bronislav pirate, the order to eliminate the official was given by the current hero of ukraine stepan bandera. and the plan of the operation was developed by the future accomplice of the nazis roman shukhevych. in october of the same 33 year, the ukrainian nationalist nikolai oleinik killed the soviet consul in lvov andrey maylov,
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the organizers were all the same bandera and zhukivych after the war in 1949. mihail stakhur, banned by the un. he killed the soviet anti-fascist writer yaroslav galan. here in his works he described the inhuman methods of bandera, the murder of ideological opponents. among ukrainian nationalists, they were considered useful and even necessary for the great purpose. in times of chaos and turmoil, one can afford to liquidate undesirable polish moscow and jewish figures, especially supporters of the bolshevik moscow imperialism. after the maidan in ukraine, they returned to this practice in 2015 year. famous journalist oles buzina, detained for his murder of a nationalist, was killed in kiev the kiev court released the murder of a journalist by ukrainian radicals. each year is celebrated as a victory. and if they want to intimidate someone, they promise to send them to meet the elder for several years in ukraine , they use explosive devices to settle political scores in 2017 in
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the city center is unknown and blew up the car of journalists. pavel sheremet 2018 from a bomb explosion laid by ukrainian terrorists. the head of the dpr alexander zakharchenko died task to instill fear the task of terrorizing the population you will be killed everywhere in turkey and you will go to turkey and be killed in egypt you will go to egypt , other seychelles and the maldives in you everywhere they will come to you, the murderers of the ukrainian nazis and they will kill you bogdan soviet experience in the fight against this nationalist terrorism. it is now somehow applicable, because you were talking about smersh. uh, it's not me. i said that the people are demanding smersh, the people are demanding commissars in one of the broadcasts. i said that it’s not me, really, and, in principle, i can’t help but only death, that there these special services have existed for us for all the time of our history. yes, people want an answer. and in principle, the answers were adequate to demand this one thing and want it, because emotionally we all wanted no, but you understand how effective this story is.
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well, you know, in principle, given the soviet experience, it is the soviet one because, and he is a product of that period when the essence of the ussr yes, it has a certain effect. they killed konovalets, this is the well-known court of the board , they killed bandera with the help of bogdan e, stashevsky lord, i forgot the name stashevsky yes, and this really weakened the organization of ukrainian nationalists. you , too, inside them sowed fear. and basically, here it is. what for this use itself, it is effective, but we do not use it, that is, all people in ukraine feel absolutely safe. they believe that no one will kill them. and here we have all the people begin to feel in danger, among other things. i would like to say that you do not think that this is the ideology of the murder. she distributes only there at budanova's there, with someone else of his colleagues, no you. remember, for example, the ukrainian ambassador to kazakhstan, what does he say? well, the same thing that budanov said. we must kill as many russians as possible so that our children have to kill less of them. remember there some lady from the mind, who did not cook russian babies. it’s with them in general they are shifted and kill russian babies. or there are the corpses of russian soldiers in the form of toys, or
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these ones, by the way, right now they are releasing fireworks, which they call there, yes, there etc. this time more humanely it is not some representatives of the highest elites, the highest elites, it is clear she is fighting for her position. it is for their own that they make presentations for the president according to clear instructions, excellent understanding. there are people who are poisoned - this is an ideology completely remember. there are one another actions are made on instructions from the office. i don’t believe that there is clarity what is now anton valeryevich yes, that is, firstly, the president, secondly, you understand these terrorist attacks are also calculated on us and are being sold on the one, here is the nuclear electorate that supports the regime. i'm talking, in general, i'm talking about the mood. remember the man who rejoiced and said that muscovites died in their larvae, when the plane crashed into the black sea. they hate about them someone significantly. it just seems to me, i may be mistaken, but
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here is my personal opinion, so to speak, that the rhetoric that you promote sometimes anatolyevich plays into the hands of the enemy. so they'll show you later. eh, this is at home and they will say you know, in general, how and what it is? what they think you know, but i will list them all now. listen, he didn’t even have a single judgment. the daughter listed isolated facts, spreading them to a huge mass of people. i just yes, and it's up for conversation. where did we start about the effectiveness of countering this kind of terrorist attacks killed several. see. now using the method is different. that is, any fact that we cite in our program, because a lot of what bogdana anatolyevich said. we showed you. well, of course, there zabryunom. excuse the smeared form, because that cannot be shown. and you explain to me that this is an isolated case, it is different in
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reality. but in fact, you can prove something to me, that there, in fact, i express my point of view, because there may be some hopes of my own. i ma- i say again. and what is it, so to speak? some last resort. i'm just talking about something else, look at the effectiveness of countering this, they killed a few benders, and planted thousands, where we got rid of this for a decade of the soviet union. once again , the most important and effective countermeasures this kind of terrorist attacks is, uh, if they call them, uh, names to steal, to present the evidence base and the essence of zelensky, to re-steal those who take part in the terrorist attacks, the organizers, executors of customers, and so on , the executors of all, practically took all the places show the rights of garbage organizations that would indicate in particular the mode. it was
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actually a steal lead. this is, firstly, the risk to our people is much more effective here, it seems to me, and for them i just want to remind you that when they arrived in the kremlin, these fools, yes, mechanical shows we have been told. yes high enough level that we have no doubts. where uh, it flies. who determines the goals, so we have something now in america, too, there, right? if we let's we talk about justice or whatever, we'll be together. let's if we are with you we conduction. we have only one method to go to the temple and pray. why yes, because the lord will understand, and we will sit and you will literally 2 seconds. i'm sorry when the terrorist attack happened on the crimean bridge, and russia is brilliant e, showed proved in a very short time, who a and
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so on. it would be nice to say so to find and imprison to bring to justice, when they blew up our poor dugin , too . we have nothing to do with it, the americans are obsessed. we have nothing to do with it, if this was still after they lied. when speaking with you, we did not rejoice, neither with them on the spot, i am absolutely convinced that neither to bomb the bank nor to steal anyone and kill anyone. especially here inside after being stolen is impossible. this is pure provocation and the current international situation. this will only lead to the fact that the ukrainians will be right again, and russia will be again. uh, to a greater extent, the country cannot do this to terrorists. just flying, so now about the good ones.
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sergey mardan, military commander semyon pegov well, there were still a few there was no option no one kill more than 50,000 people answered this question by pointing to one of the names. the ukrainian segment of the internet that day was filled with posts about zakhar prilepipin. here you see them, in fact, and also read them. nothing is needed here. here, and the other day , fireworks under the names vladlen tatar daria dugina were really found in the online stores of ukraine ; for some reason, this is considered ridiculous there. like this. and what about good russians, that's what you wanted to say to ukrainian society. after all this discussion, i came to the conclusion that no good russians exist, in principle, and if they do exist, they make up the same mythical battalion that supposedly fights on the side. i don't know whether this battalion exists or not, but in general, they refer to it. and even
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its flag is published. here is the second thing that should be understood by all the people, including emigration, they explained that they have the right to hatred and revenge. truth, why do i speak of impotent malice and explorer from difficulty none of these people entitled to hate and oil revenge did not try to do anything during the immortal regiment, which took place in almost all european capitals, and there they sit quieter than water below the grass. and here she is from time to time. in the maldives, everyone must definitely be killed completely, because all of these are white-field. excuse the expression and red-bellies and whatever. everyone is the enemy of ukraine, and even for ukraine, in fact, there is one single political dimension, no other
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exists, in principle. these are the interests of ukraine why am i extremely skeptical about all sorts of ideas about the offensive of the ukrainians, there on russian territory and so on, because it's clean. small-town so that's why , yes, that's the interests of ukraine it seems to me that this is some kind of fiction called textbooks. he freed his village. he hung his master calmed down, and in a neighboring village. he won't go anymore. let's alexander andreevich hmm i 'm on the topic as a whole, firstly, the nkvd then the mgb and the kgb worked with, uh, with ukrainian nationalist organizations, as they called terrorist enemy then, yes, in order to start working with them as terrorists, including urinating toilets, they must be recognized as such. uh, and not a state, but organizations and, for example, uh,
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a military organization to be recognized as a terrorist. well, it will be quite difficult. uh, the main thing i wanted to say is a model case. eh, with a bandera. i think that for us it should be precisely, the working model was first in moscow. here is a correspondence session, at which bandera was sentenced to death, and then they went to execute it. no matter where if tomorrow a trial will be held in moscow, which will condemn budanov in absentia to capital punishment. that's when i'll see, we're already open and time. it won't be a waste of time. we must stay wasting time about wasting time. i can say that what was then, as it were for all intents and purposes, understand me correctly , it was a little further, it was western ukraine after all, maybe there was even something at all outside the soviet union, then what is happening now - it
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is happening in moscow in st. petersburg in the moscow region in the nizhny novgorod region already in the center nowhere viktor zhevich. well, firstly, i do not agree that everyone in ukraine supports terrorism against non-combatants. who cares? does the family support you? there is no support for this, and moreover, even on social networks there are people who talk openly about this, which means that it concerns terrorism itself. unfortunately, we have to state that it is likely with a high degree of probability that such terrorist acts of this kind will accompany the entire course of the russian-ukrainian conflict for as long as it lasts. it's already started and ukrainian authorities. see. we can invent, look, firstly, to predict the direction of the blow. will it really try to go? again, on the staff, right? or is this what fedorov told us about, if you remember, he, by the way , predicted that on the seventh of the eighth there would be
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another, which means another wave of strikes with the help of drones. and then andrei vladimirovich said that his kiev friends were planning strikes on bridges at the oil refinery. no, what will it be now? so if you say that all this will continue. here it is possible to somehow determine whether it will be by personalities or by well , it will be determined both by personalities and by infrastructural facilities, it is intelligence as a military facility, and including military counterintelligence deals with these issues. how to deal with this. in general, there are several methods for occupying terrorist manifestations of this kind, as if this alone is work. actually counterintelligence, which we have already mentioned, and the second method is the creation of a change in the political property of the atmosphere in such a way that it is terrorism pain, so that those who initiate it, but do not consider it anymore. it's profitable. you know, when, and who they attack, basically, here are the arcs, but let's face it, as if to him. no, he remembers
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him. he once taught at the social fact of moscow state university. and why was he removed from there? he shouted that ukrainians should be killed and killed. i'm telling you as a professor. you remember, this, of course, is this, despite the fact that he is, in general, an anufen by his mother, yes. well, here's how it was interpreted and briefly in terms of bandera, after all, like the soviet whistle on bandera's revolutions, in fact, in the end. why did these terrorist attacks stop almost completely on the territory of the ussr yes on the one hand, they were repressed, many were imprisoned there , they were prevented , some were liquidated there and, but an attractive attractive alternative was created on the territory of ukraine. correctly ukrainian attractive model was repeatedly mr. sytin, already described now a short pause. we'll be back on the air to
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they could not go on, whether he would win to the end . this is the whole phenomenon. what are we then today? see? these are very complex processes; the answer will be very simple, but also difficult at the same time; in order to defeat terrorism, you need to end it on our terms. we must look into the reason for this, we just talked about the fact that it is possible to set impotent malice with either tool when there are no other tools. we listen. bogdan bogdan says. ah-ah-ah-ah, as it were, we do not answer anything. listen. every day we have missiles flying there, the number of deaths on their part and the military and equipment, the rest of the infrastructure and compare what they are doing. and they are sitting there. it's clear. and they tell us what to answer. let's alexey gennadievich , i agree with viktor. uh, absolutely exactly i designated, if briefly formulated, not to act in the logic of a response to terrorism in the logic of some kind of reaction. and for this there are all existing mechanisms of justice, and legislation.
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that's the only way you can actually overcome the only way, otherwise, it will be a lump that will collect models, we will create a pleasant one for you so bogdan that you need to react, because our people will otherwise ask questions to authorities. terrorism remains unpunished , some iconic figures must also be eliminated. syrsky zaluzhny now rumors have spread. i don’t know zelensky why he didn’t get in touch? yes? well, yes, but in any case, it is definitely necessary to react for the sake of our people, so that they see that terrorism was punished. the decision is all possible to pretend at the legislative level, laws and other last things i want to say. get well soon. he our person. i respect him very much and all my value judgments apply only to me and his literature, but he is ours. we are in the same trench for him to get well soon and everything else. yes, it would be nice if we ourselves agreed with each other in advance. i very briefly on your question, andrei vladimirovich not briefly, but in the history of the russian empire there were two experiences. victory over terrorism.
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they took it once, when they had already killed alexander ii, and then they really took 2.20 years of terrorism. the russian empire did not have then they took it at the beginning of the 20th century, when terrorism became, well, not ubiquitous, but a very frequent occurrence. both times, the strongest work, the special services, the maximum concentration on this particular topic, and everything that we discussed today turned out. i already understood this when i just looked at our layout, he appropriately tells. is that a joke about flying. for now in georgia. well, about the ninth of may. i won't tell jokes. this is also about terrorism somehow. although an anecdote with a light terrorist raid, these are very old soviet stories. times flight moscow fought back flies already in the cockpit. a georgian comes in, pulls out such a huge dagger, puts it defiantly on the dashboard and says they fought and i want him. the pilot says, so dear we, and so the georgians plunged into it, says, they loaded three times, flew three times, istanbul landed, it was a
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