[000:00:37;00] tv company vid presents hello good evening on the air program wait for me if you have lost contact with your loved ones, leave a request on our website poisk.wit.ru, and we will do our best to make your meeting happen as soon as possible. and also on the website of the program. you can register as ours. his assistant and perhaps the next meeting will happen thanks to you. well, we're starting. sometimes people have to commit ambiguous acts that cause condemnation and become the cause of blood grievances, but before burning bridges. we always advise to find out the motives of these actions, even if many years have passed and the participants in the events are not alive, it is necessary and important to find out such things

. this is a family story. the history of the family and for future generations. it should be as honest as possible and there should be no unanswered questions. now i want to invite valentina grigorievna to us, a swede who came from the city of the railway valentina grigorievna come out to us. please tell us what brought you to us. you know, it's just that my granddaughter and i decided. find my brothers nephews by blood

father's name is my dad. and vasenko grigory fedorovich at the time it was 41 years old, the war began. then. i was just born, all men , all who, maybe, went to defend their homeland, his father went, of course. gone yes, the war is on. mom stayed about the girls. so we lived and lived, as they say , the time of war without a master is very difficult. well, they pulled, as they say, there were no

letters from the front from the father. at first he sent letters , there were letters, my mother answered, then somehow everything calmed down. then he wrote a letter to his grandmother that you write what they say. katya's mother is called. well and then the eldest answers to her, she no longer says to her mother, so that she calls. you excuse me, i have a mother. and call, i will not call her mother tickets, rostov region. and

then on trips we'll die drowned, there is no ticket , no money. he climbed it. and so he traveled from this krasnodar for 12 days, his police removed bogorodiya from the train. well, he told me where he came from, that he brought her to zimovniki. and we had such a dugout grandmother went to church nearby . mom too we are in god all our lives and always we had a lot of people in the church, they came on sunday to saturday, and my mother came out and

said this, and grandmother vera called. and she’s all in shah, so she’s right there on the street, she burned it all, but there’s nothing to her legs, but she owned her jacket, and then she went to something, sheep, you have to work, and then the neighbor writes that if katya come , if you have your children, come and take them, otherwise they will die. well, mom, right there on the train , i collected a knapsack for these children for two boys. and she took

us and brought us, and then we talked with dad. no. and grandmother something katya and god be with him. let him live he himself, and we ourselves have already matured, then it means that these years pass and no one writes anything to us. and vitya is a husband. mine also died, 21. he also lived without a father. with him i say, listen, do they go to us. to go see my dad, i

asked him just now. what kind of a man is this in such a difficult time and has abandoned his four children. we arrived it was still dark. someone is coming. i watch her say hello to this woman. well, they let us in. naturally, when the mouse, this is a series of feasts, the father began to boast to his sons, and whirlwind it turns out 10 or 51 already and the daughter was born . mother vera ivanovna responded unflatteringly and said she went abroad. well, you just asked, dad, why did you leave? what

happened, he began to tell me that i helped you. i say, yes, nothing, we won’t get you under you, at that time i didn’t name it, but you, and he says, like him show the document. if not, of course not, and that's it, and then have fun. to you and your son well, we ate and slept together, because he had already rested the next day. we leave. they didn't stop us to live there, well, we communicate. well, how about dad? well, it feels like you are still offended because of your mother and for yourself and for the fact that dad pulled away at some point, because

they even sent us an application. not you. katya katya lala she got me. katya is your great -niece. right. yes, this is your brother, or granddaughter. yes, apparently. katya presses this story somewhat from the other side. i don’t know, grandfather anatoly told her, that is , you know that when we heard her version, how did you take it all a little differently big event. event let's see the plot. this photo shows my grandfather anatoly grigoryevich ivasinka, he lived next to us. i came to visit him. i even remember that day. it was january 13th. he

lay, he was very ill. i say grandfather. maybe we'll call an ambulance. yes, well, here. well, he says, no, it’s not necessary, sit down, he says, let’s chat, think, sat down, and he told me this story, and during the great patriotic war, the family of my great-grandfather and my great-grandmother lived and vasinka ekaterina karpovna and grigory fedorovich when he left for front, then ekaterina karpovna of his wife became very difficult, and she, uh, decided. well , to go, probably, on such an adventure that she wrote a letter, they even say that she turned to the village council. somehow they agreed there that she died and left four children. there is no one to raise them in the hope that their father will take them. well, that is, he will come, let him go, and he will continue to raise his children. no one from there. naturally, he did not let go, because the war is

all children. i know he was. uh, as a signalman , he established communication in any bad weather conditions. for this he was awarded for us. uh, then uh, he goes to a hospital in the country and they meet a woman there. here is vera ivanovna. this is all that i do not know, and they, uh, began a relationship all the way through the war. they passed together. that's during the war. they give birth to two more children, two boys , the war ends. they come to their native settlement and learn such a cruel truth that ekaterina karpovna, my great-grandmother, is alive and well. well, my grandfather says. and what does he do , yes, how to be with me and and there is already a family and you all are alive and well vera ivanovna well, i think that it was necessary, too, to be confused by the simply uncomfortable position in which

simply ekaterina karpovna put me. with his letter , grigory fedorovich invites her to take everyone , uh, my grandfather anatoly and his younger sister valentina, uh, they are leaving for the krasnodar territory to the medvedovka farm. well, my grandfather was very, very jealous of this from his words. i say, it seemed to him that if it were not for these two brothers, then the father would not have left their family and decides to take such a step that he decides to drown his brothers were not small. and there, uh, fortunately, there was some grandfather who saw and drove him to my grandfather. anatoly what are you doing? and he says, i got scared and ran away. he got home by train, he came all dirty, he says in general, well, a child, that he

was probably 7 years old there at that time. and he never saw his father again. i really want you to show me. uh, there is no grave of my great-grandfather. even images. yes, photos of what my great-grandfather looked like. i want to ask his forgiveness to say that our whole big family, it's very big. and looking forward to seeing you. well, i hope this meeting with a letter to write. she wrote a letter to her mother asking her to write. you know, this is a-a conversation. you don't know how it really was, that's it, to be honest. you understand i know also because i believe my mother. ah, well, listen, valentina grigorievna , um. you understand that war is

a different way for a person to time, he knows that he feels that every second he can die. and if your father really received a letter stating that his wife had died. can he be blamed for the fact that having met another woman, he gave himself the right to some feelings and love. i'm not asking well, let's say, well, if you have achieved this, and what about my mother? but the question is what was achieved. the war was over, he could not come. why

didn't you come for the kids? i will ask all men and women because we have women, some do not leave your children, because it is very painful. in this you are right, and you can absolutely argue, well, after all , you want to find brothers and sister, i want to go with him by blood. still family. then tell your sister about your brothers, that you remember what their sister's name is, i don't remember at all how i

didn't see her this year. we found could not come. the fact is that yuri grigorievich suffered a stroke and such long trips were flights for him. of course dangerous now sister gladly. i introduced the a group to my daughter dasha. by the way, she told a lot of interesting things about your father. let's see the plot. this is my grandfather and vasenka grigory fedorovich, the photo was taken. tolik similar to him. this is grandpa grandma grandmother was called vera vera ivanovna at the front during the war, but he was an infantryman, and she, as a signalman grandmother, was tougher in character than grandfather - he loved this madness and all

went through together. in hungary 44 pregnancy so the grandmother was offered to throw it to someone somewhere to leave. he said no, he wouldn't give it to anyone. this is grandma sitting on grandpa's lap. this photo was taken after the war, they lived together for 52 years. here grandma grandpa visiting son boris

grandpa grandma boris yury here is grandma with his daughter and tatyana jr. are always orders. it's me little and its alone. we didn’t know, grandparents didn’t say anything about this topic. my dad found out that there are children there, supposedly four children. in principle, all this topic was not raised by them, dad. he devoted his whole life to energy. he worked that year already. i am very glad that we found relatives. i would really like

to meet you. unexpectedly so. these surts heard, but did not know. i have them well, and i'm happy to answer, of course, you're my good. so

it's very similar. a yuri could not come for health reasons? but there is also a sister, the youngest girl. you said that she went abroad somewhere, my mother told me then to go abroad and that's it. where did you go? let her live there, you all know, she really lives abroad in germany, and maybe just yesterday. our film crew

met with her. let's see let's see my name is tatyana grigorievna now duke i live in germany, the city of lübeck, grigory fedorovich , 1909, somewhere in the caucasus, i don’t know for sure, krasnodar territory or stavropol territory had three children. well, then the war came, and he went to war. he is 32 years old. he went through the whole war. in austria, he was in hungary, he was wounded about the war. dad didn’t particularly like to tell, but only a few episodes

he said how they floated on a raft , crossed some kind of river and a bomb hit the fetus and began to set. well, the guys drowned a lot, of course, but then some kind of horse swam. and by some miracle, they survived. she pulled them to the shore. my father was at the front and met my mother vera ivanovna sonina she served in the communication morse code she knew from and to the end of her life. well , i met and fell in love with my dad. dad fell in love with mom, and somewhere at the end of forty-three. mom got pregnant in her fourth year. she has already given birth to a child. well, since pregnant women had to go to the rear again, they hid everything, this was pregnancy and the birth of a child. mom told the child, of course, it was hard, and when the bomb whistled attire and flew, they had to transmit the connection further. and then some guys soldiers took him and hid him, so that nothing would happen

and in the forty-fifth year of the day, they ended the war. i think they finished in hungary too, because they talked a lot. all signed up. they are sad with dad. my second brother boris was born in 1946 and 1946. well, in 1951 , my daughter tatyana was born, this is me in 507. we all moved to altai, blagoveshchensky district , stepnoe lake, there are very large amounts of nitrates there, and they were being developed, and my father worked as a miner all the time at this plant, we lived very hard, lived in wagons at first, then they gave us an apartment, we lived in an apartment, we went to school, it was difficult for three children, but our father loved us terribly and went to work. they always waited for mine that he would come and

bring something from a bunny; bags were rummaging around there, then a piece of buns, we’ll find bread. well, this bunny is from a bunny, loved us very much loved my mother. my mom was a very jealous dad. she, of course, loved and was jealous and did not want him to remember about the first family. though, of course, he remembered. i know exactly what i remembered when we arrived to his sister in krasnodar aunt dasha and his brother and you. it was they said that dad had children and my aunt always said that i looked like some kind of sister bai. dad did not become january 21 , 1996, my mother is also gone, unfortunately, already average, brother. boris also died only remained. me and older brother. yura he would love to come to the program, but he couldn't, he's sick, his

legs can't walk, but he would really like to see you all, my dear brothers and sisters. i don't know you, i don't know your name, but i am very i look forward to this meeting and before the meeting. i'm very worried, but i'm looking forward to it. i am also valentin grigoryevna. where do you think we filmed this story? yesterday we can in moscow . quite right, in moscow, she flew in from germany, she is here and really wants to meet you.

beautiful women, of course, you are a good man once you arrived. thank you very much for finding the opportunity to fly here to meet valentina grigoryevna

life is upset - this is such a thing. it's such a complicated thing. so we are like her. do you see it seems, very very, it seems. yes, i really hope that we will always be together. katya fulfilled the will of her grandfather that we met, and they have nothing left. and sister ot yura, all of you backstage have long become acquainted and are waiting only for you so that we let you go, be healthy.

hello hello my dear, that we have found you to take the child under guardianship. it means being responsible for his future. i caregivers should keep this in mind when making the decision to allow children to associate with blood relatives. or vice versa stop such contacts are on the vine. and someone else option has its consequences, therefore, in each case, you need to carefully weigh the pros and cons. today we will talk in detail about this with bogdan miroshnichenko, who came to us from

luhansk. bogdan come to us. i also applied for my brother and sister tarasenko nikita and tarasenko anastasia it happened. i was still a teenager. mom, i don’t know, for some reason she left for ukraine, we remained a grandmother. well, it didn’t last long, my grandmother died and nastya and nikita were taken to the house babies, and i was sent to the ivanovo orphanage. how old was nastya? five was nikitka, probably three years old, it was 11 years old, that's how it was somewhere. she did not

return with her grandmother. in moscow, here on altufevskoe highway. and after meadow orphanage i was sent to a school to study as a bricklayer. i unlearned and got a profession and began to travel on shifts. and at some point, i came furmanov went to this social, guardianship asked where nastya nikita was, to which they answered me. we cannot provide you with any information, there is a woman dissatisfied with the look, said everything we can tell you. they are in the same family. uh huh,

more. we can't answer your questions. it happens that even in guardianship they say that they might contact the guardians and ask if they want it so it wasn't offered. this even i asked them. let me leave you some contacts to pass on to the guardians. they want the rest, the rest saw me through and that's it. yeah , i know something, there was some kind of telegram. yes, you had a frame. uh, grandmothers came, then i say something, the telegram is urgent, a which grandmother received a telegram. this is on whose line the grandmother is - this is our mother's own aunt. aha came telegram without any contact number back to addresses without anything. uh, in the telegram it was indicated, i don’t remember there. which station? well, something kirovograd kiev region. do you want to see

your brother as a sister? come there. uh-huh, i immediately ran to the bus station to find out tickets. to the railway station for this one, then i’ll call my grandmother back and say, it’s not indicated there, nothing more. from kirovograd well, until what moment is it not necessary to come and something grandmother said that it turns out, they leave at 5:00 in the morning, and i only arrive there at 7:00 in the morning, i don’t have time to go. if i don't make it, at least there. 10 minutes of time i would go, it turns out the telegram, most likely, was the guardians. yes, most likely, well, then, maybe, after all , someone announced that the brother is looking for a brother with his sister. perhaps, according to our information, social security went somewhere, nevertheless turned to the guardians and said that there is a brother who is looking for his brother and sister, but

really, at first the guardians said that this does not interest them, and then, apparently, they changed their minds and, as i understand it, they somehow relied on their will. cases, right? how about a short opportunity? we will arrive at the station at such a time, you come and see. no, so no, perhaps, well, most likely, that's how it happened. well, i'm just physically on time. i didn't have time to arrive. it's a pity that this happened, because nikita and nastya were very, very waiting for you there. look already. since childhood, i was sure that my older brother bogdan had a surname and patronymic. well i think he aleksandrovich later, when we were told that they were looking for us. i found out that her surname is different, respectively, i

already understood that dads are different. well, i just don’t remember the day when our older brother was looking for us. well, i was 12 years old, i was walking, something came. mom, she called and said, there is a conversation. i was scared, i even thought, now i did something, she probably told me that they called from the orphanage , where we were for some time and said that our older brother came to them looking for us, but for some reason they decided, what they don’t want to give the data to my mother, and therefore he couldn’t help but come and call, and as if the connection with him was cut off on this. at that time the initiative was we traveled to ukraine, and to the address that we

were given his address. we wrote a letter that we are now in ukraine at such and such an address, you can come there to contact us. and we were there for some time waiting, that is, some answers, but, unfortunately, there was no answer. got reasons. we don't know either. well , they didn’t think that he didn’t want it. we had options that it is possible that bogdan no longer lives there. he did not see this letter, perhaps the letter itself did not reach. yes, where does he live? that is , in principle, for some reason, in some places i didn’t get in touch, it’s unknown, but i was very upset that he didn’t come, that he still couldn’t get there , i even thought about it for a long time. how did you actually end up in an orphanage? i don't remember at all . here, i just remember that i'm mom dad brothers, a family, and then at some point i was already there, that is, for this period of my life, it completely fell out of my memory, well

, they said that we were brought to our grandmother here in russia. then we were dead, ended up in orphanage. and now i somehow don’t remember what happened next. well , it so happened that we stayed in the orphanage . they took us from the orphanage, it was not eight, nikitik was six. i love the family that was taken from us, because after all, in general, if it were not for this family, and well, it is not known what would happen to you now, as it were, our fate has developed, because we have education and some habits that are useful to us all the same further hmm these years lived all together, but if you think about relatives , there are very few , this is my younger brother. and now, if we meet, i will have another brother, that is, there will already be more of us and i would like us to get to know each other better, that is, so that i can just even call him, for example, at any moment

of my life chat. and they are there today cooked soup to tell, well, such are the things. well, how we communicate with friends every day on the phone, that is, how i communicate with my younger brother with nikita, i’ll call there, find out how things are. and here, too, i wish i could. the moment to call to find out how they are doing there for a birthday party or to invite them to some kind of event. if they call to go, that is, i really want to meet my brother in fact. well, when i told nikita, i can’t describe his reaction, because he is such a modest boy or he said that wants to see him too. she called me on the phone and said that she got a call from the program. wait for me and they said that our brother was found, that he exists, i knew, but i don’t remember him. well sensations, bogdan i am nikita of the industry meeting. i hope we become friends and will

communicate for the rest of our lives. i remember you, we never forgot you and really want to meet you, really want to find you. you are late?