today in our program, erdogan is a mustachioed cockroach full of uncertainty. the west has set a goal to get rid of erdogan. what are the chances of the turkish leader to win in the second round? i can't explain such joy to greatness . why did george soros first die, and then did not die the mysterious circumstances of reports of his death cunning, ruthless amby little tsakhe, how zelensky godfather treated the pope and why the germans were so swans in front of the terrorist president, and also what to expect after his return to kiev a few more visits and all. watch right now. hello, is this

the meeting place on ntv, the place where everything becomes clear? i'm andrey norkin. my colleague is ivan trushkin. we are working live. as you can see, i am with luggage, because i just flew in from khabarovsk this morning again, but with hand luggage. well, in principle, yes, because not everyone who, well, not all the guests are now on the air. so i just wanted to thank my colleagues again, because thanks to, uh, my friends at work , i was able to at least partially, but my dream to make life come true to visit the far east well, the truth is, khabarovsk khabarovsk was practically not possible to see. well, there or some traffic problems. and actually our viewers in the primorsky territory in the khabarovsk territory thank you for your love for our theme program and, uh, appreciate your super patriotic position very highly.

just patriotic, that's all the gifts. all greetings only here, that is, there won’t be any at all. no today, sorry, yes, you shouldn't be today. now i first, uh, to georgy valeryevich and there hi , so georg valerievich so this is for you, khabarovsk. that's right. yes, khabarovsk. so this is super for you, vladivostok. you are very smart. you are dushka, and this is my favorite for the confectioner for the famous cat, georgy valerievich , whom he mentions to our program and periodically there is nothing left. no, it's the same. there is one store in moscow , yes. thank you dear. primorye is still an agency analogous in the calculations, lagging behind by an average of 15-20 points, both main candidates

urged their supporters not to disperse and watch watch the ballots until everything is officially recorded. well, more intrigue. it was added here that a significant number of turks are more than a million. there are several million people there, they vote abroad and it was already at night that he was able to completely bring the political system under control , imagine what will happen now, when a war for literally every vote begins in these 2 weeks. and i’m not sure that he will be able to somehow take it all under tight control again, but you understand, the turnout is 89% tells us about that no matter how much he wanted, for example, but to manipulate the election results a little. he will not succeed when such a large turnout of people is very heavily invested in their politics, and the average age is 30 years old, the country is young plus or minus the country is a radical country ready to stand up for its political convictions, but at the same time the country is ready to accept the election results. we see that erdogan does not speak. you know i have 0.7% left. i

will take my people out on the street and take them away, their strength is not erdogan. and now i bow my head before the will of the people. and this is good news for us, because wait, you are all together now. give me, please, the most interesting. forgive me, for which there will be a maidan or there will not be a maidan so let's, first of all. thank you very much, the far east is very nice and the cat is pleased, then you have to explain to him that this is not just a jar of a jar from e, vladivostok is like that. well, let's talk about turkey, it means about turkey. most likely , the maidan attempt will be more accurate. votes up to a fifty cents, because then the maidan would be now and the west , this maidan is very actively invested. i read western publications. they spoke very competently there, do not interfere, please, dear our leaders, the elections at the moment of the company intervene at the moment of the maidan when it will be necessary to support the protesters erdogan.

eh, the westerners didn’t see anything like that there. why turn like a faucet? he has such opportunities, he has such opportunities, he will do it. no, that's another question, but the end of the second round, the stakes are too high. really understand. now, probably, erdogan, the most difficult situation for all sowing his election campaigns and the opposition smells of blood. she understands that, if not now. inherit when exactly the same way the west feels the west blood smell of blood. he feels that the body is now weaker than it has ever been, even a little weaker than when there were constitutional parties. now let's show at the last moment, if possible. let's, yes, and about myself, i took nogan to time to interview him. he is the third one to participate. yes, yes, a member of the valdai club, if yes he is very pragmatic with me.

i have come to realize that he is a very pragmatic person. and as a pragmatist. he will most likely support erdogan, because his electorate is closer to erdogan than the compositions. there are a number of electoral proposals i have so far. eh, here , dear guests, a little bit. wait, but it just sounded several times today. that is the most difficult position in erdogan now for all the time there as much as you want to explain. i i want to show it. but what exactly is the problem, and then then our guests will go straight to the end of this block and, uh, let's talk. so some are several. sorry, the reasons are called uh, as why erdogan did not win in the first round. actually, what am i asking russia sergeevich about? well, of course, many people say that the earthquake was very important electorally. this is terrible, when, in my opinion, almost 50,000 people died there, but it hasn’t been done in just one earthquake

for many years already. let's see, türkiye is not can cope with extremely high growth in august last year, inflation was more than 80% bloomberg estimated that prices in the richest city in the country. this is istanbul in a year. inflation has almost doubled. in turkish energy. even higher, it is almost 122% lira lost more than a quarter of its value against the dollar in a year, the falling economy forced the authorities to rally the conservative part of society, but here, too, not everything, as they used to say unequivocally a few years ago. do you remember erdogan turned hagia sophia into a mosque almost century, and sofia was a museum where they kept it. memory, including orthodoxy, well, if the majority of the population does not support this traditional erdogan bias, they are campaigning for a new order, a variety of people, including

popular music stars in a popular even in our country, this is a fragment of the clip of the singer, tarkan, let's, we'll see let's hear what he sings. before the elections, erdogan, apparently realizing that this dissatisfaction, primarily with economic factors, tried to soften it a little, for example, in may, residents of turkey received zero payments zero gas bills, that is, receipts come to you, and there zero erdogan solemnly announced that turkey had discovered its own natural gas field in the future, someday gas for the population will be free of charge , they decided not to wait for the development of this field. and so the bills for may were paid and budget funds a few days before the elections, erdogan announced an increase in salaries for 700,000 civil servants by almost half by 45%. and

right on election day. here are the shots of erdogan handing out money for the election plot, and 200 lire were given to children who ran up to the president when he later came to vote. immediately , the positionists began to yell that this was bribery of the voters, and so on and so forth, but from the point of view of the law, everything is clear, because children do not vote. so, and i read sorry , please, i read that this is almost a tradition, some kind of turkish. what is here anyway. if you know that this is happening, then there should be no questions at all, nevertheless, even yesterday they sent me screenshots from the western ones, they will start this below. yes, what eventually outweighs, means some economic problems that can erdogan.

push away from uh winnings at the very last moment or everything will still be the same as the old result of the first round shows that the peoples do not care about economic problems, because if uh, the economic situation had an impact, the erdogs would even have 40% of the elections did not score. still, the people in turkey most of all probably vote for the ideology for the way of life that the erdogan presents himself uh-huh because, as you said, despite the results of the earthquake on the economic situation on what the pro kursk party supported. despite all these factors. erdogan scored almost 50%. this is actually already victory for him. you still have to wait, you haven’t read the votes that gathered there, nur-6% is not enough. in theory, tomorrow, if the election committee, uh, declares erdogan president, i won't

be surprised, but it's unlikely, but i mean, he has a lot of votes. still got it. this success is the first moment, on the second round. eh, a lot depends on who they will support, after all, the electorate. eh, sinona-agana. and there may also be some sensational news in 15 days, and they may come from the west or there inside, for example, some insiders may appear no-no. well , just the last few days. we lived fakes in turkey right, uh, every day we wait , answered, it seems to me, let's ask one question. listen. here you say that they vote for ideology. and so he scored so much, if not, see all the same salary increase. eh, as we do say budget? yes, almost half. well, this is a serious piece of bread and butter, which means, uh, paying gas bills. well, this is

probably a symbolic step. but, when you take such a step, right on the eve of the elections, well, somehow it all looks strange. i can't agree with what you say that you haven't taken up economic issues now, and i'm afraid that's just, well, i'm not afraid. and, in the sense of me, in general, there is a difference, no, this is such a saying that just these things will pay attention to them and put pressure on them. here, look what he did and just in these 2 weeks everything can change. i didn't mean to say that the economic situation isn't crazy at all, of course it does, but it's like a difference of a few percent. eh, here other facts commanded these percentages, for example, that uh about the kursk party yes , very strongly eh. uh campaigned for krishtaglu, which, uh, was actually in favor of erdogan, then the second point is that klyshtar

corners of allavit are moving, and the sunnis do not vote for him, there are many such factors that are gaining a few percent. fine? and i again, i came across the fact that kylych arranged his entire company for the road. well, i don’t know, maybe this, of course, is also populism on the grounds that he is ready and willing and ready to solve internal problems. that’s just inflation, this one elena vladimirovna well, all the same, when i was in istanbul not so long ago, not so long ago as long ago already during the election campaign, and before that, well, this year people, when they were asked, constantly talked about your standard of living, but falling, reducing all levels of life and you go into shops somewhere. wait, well, you're complaining that every week they change the price tags. let's be uh honest and consistent, but no one

doubted that istanbul would vote against the enemy. you actually, wait. anton valeevich. i voted for him. in general, i understand, so the provinces are talking about e's general complaints about the economy about the fact that people began to live worse wages. the same, despite some subsidies, and prices are rising and this is just erdogan's weak point on this and played the key to the road. and if everyone understands that this is his weak point, and he takes such high-profile public steps, where they pay to increase the salary. he, too, wait, well , harm or everyone will say. well, i think people can't be so naive. oh well, they raised salaries there. why can not in certain segments of the population, it may well yes , people play a big role. it is appreciated. well , against uh, because of erdogan, but against and also, uh , traditional anti-americanism plays in turkey . here they scold erdogan for the economy. but

when you ask, well clash the road, like right there such swearing at the address of the west at the address of america, uh, here. and this is already a weak point on the railway road, and we will still reach western influence. i think in 15-20 minutes, will the economic history outweigh the victor or not? you see, the bulk of the voters have already made their choice, indeed those who voted for the ogan they will have to choose. uh, there was also a fourth candidate who was discredited, there were records of him with prostitutes. in general, compromising evidence was there and he left, and he left the race, and we saw that part of his electorate went part of erdogan erdogan, by the way, was unhappy that this candidate left the race, they voted at all, because those who voted abroad, they had time. of course, of course, he announced that he was leaving there part of the fact that his rating was in connection with this compromising evidence. e

is the fact that he left the race. he was already lost there to what was said. the fact is that all the arguments that were brought here for the better are not sunit, but he catches not as energetic, not as passionate as erdogan. he's actually pretty gray. candidate, he is 5 years older than erdogan, and he leads the coalition. it's quite difficult for such a complex coalition of six parties , all these arguments just show that it was not because of this. despite all this, he was able to get such a result. it's not very. this is a common story when they vote not against. and this is very bad news for erdogan. therefore, i would not be such an optimist, because regarding erdogan's chances for a second term, he has a second round, and he has. dances to win, in the second round, of course, there is one more an option that no one talked about, but there is an example, and the israeli example with natanyaku

, against whom a coalition was also formed, and they defeated him precisely with this anti-rating of him yes, and then, and they quarreled and he again became prime minister turkey is the six parties that support the stew. they are, in fact, on many topics. completely disagree with each other . and there is one more factor, how else , probably, they noticed at the very beginning the results of the parliamentary elections are already understandable, even, in principle, in principle, if the situation becomes difficult enough in the second round for erdogan to maintain his own political some. uh, political influence. maybe admit it. if defeat comes to this, and then try to work against the new coalition. somehow develop it. this is also an option. a lot of. let's talk about gifts before the elections. well, listen, come on, today i didn’t bring

naive people to any practical country in the world in one form or another of politics, which has the ability to do this one way or another, either promises something, or gives something directly or dangerous in any. well, the voter understands perfectly well that this is connected with the elections and is perfectly waiting for the choice of this. and if it is done to him, the voter, it is quite pragmatic that it suits me well done. why don’t i support this candidate all these fairy tales, that, as it were, the movie people believed that this is not related to the elections, it ’s all nonsense, in fact, all the smart ones have long understood everything the second moment. has the economic situation affected the inflation in the country means erdogan is certainly one of the cornerstones that we mean problems that he presents. here the trick, you know, is that the crisis is inflation, it is man-made in turkey, this is really his mistake, and we should look at it and learn inflation. naturally, according to

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, in the zamoskvoretsky district court of moscow, he is the zamoskvoretsky district court and the date is the eleventh. is it true. that's when it will be considered. this is galkinsky, this is galkinsky, it is not yet clear. so, galkin was recognized as a foreign agent back in september 2022, yes, and his ministry of justice, uh, turned it on after he opposed the special military operation with the wording, that galkin is engaged in political activities, and in the information about his foreign. ukraine also has sources of income, including after the start of a special military operation, galkin, together with his wife alla pugacheva and children, left russia, they lived in israel , they lived in latvia, and the showman continues to stay abroad now and tours european countries. the artist previously promised to send part of the proceeds from these performances as humanitarian aid to ukraine as a hero

. the singer zemfira is also going to the agent, and she was recognized as an agent later than galkin. it was february 2023. it was then that the administrators, where they called against a special military operation and received support from foreign sources of income, but by the way, it is unlikely that all these foreigners should count on the fact that they will somehow manage to win back. especially considering what was said at the st. petersburg legal forum a couple of days ago, the minister of justice konstantin chuichenko proposed to recognize as foreign agents, i quote for violation of spiritual values. we have to date decided to foreign government funding agents. and why not deprive them? this is generally financing and opportunities to earn money. what is a foreign agent yes, there is an opinion that this is a prosecution. yes, the assignment of statuses of nothing like this is just

really the assignment of statuses, which, uh, implies the need for this person or this person to comply with certain behavioral conditions. and this status. now he must acquire including and if if its activity is directed against our spiritual and moral values. well, in continuation of the topic, foreign interference globally, this morning , rumors were spread on the social network that billionaire george soros had died first on twitter. this kind was written by an english-speaking blogger named mat-wallis. in this tweet , he claims that the ninety-two-year-old america financier investor known for creating pro-democracy funds around the world died and died of a heart attack , although this information has already begun to refute the press in the united states and the same bloggers also spread rumors about the death of the turkish

tv channel aber. however, the publication was soon deleted, surrounded by the billionaire , official comments were not yet given to andreyevich soros. in our country, this is such a symbol of the hand of the west that intervenes, wherever you are with us and they, in your performance, had a heading life of wonderful people. here is one better than the other, but of those listed, but let's talk about the intervention, what anthony said that erdogan is about the fact that turkey is not a traitor some kind of west what he said, uh, igbal on various fakes that were thrown in. as i understand it, including abroad also in time, damn it, the choice of the company, let's, here we are now this turkish topic of their elections. let's continue in this vein. the last days before the election in turkey passed in a tense atmosphere the day before the vote , the opposition candidate kyzych dorog accused russia in social networks, he wrote in turkish and russian that moscow was involved in the book of his conspiracy and the publication of fake speeches is likely. about the video calling on the kurds

militants to vote so dearly erdogan showed this record at his rally. dear russian friends, you are behind the conspiracy montages of deep fake content and recordings that have been exposed in this country. and if you want to continue our friendship after may 15, keep your hands off the turkish state. we still stand for cooperation and friendship in the kremlin accusations of klych for stew of course, rejected, and erdogan , in turn, recommended the opponent to stay away from russia and emphasized. if someone interferes somewhere, then only western patrons of comrades, kemal, now kemalkovich, began to mock the road and over russia what they say russia interfered in the elections? aren't you ashamed that you will answer? if i say that the elections in turkey are interfering in the usa germany france great britain right before the elections on saturday

, the new york times reported that erdogan infuriates the allies of the usa and in europe, they say turkey without him will be easy and talkative, that is, correct and most most importantly, without erdogan, russia will lose an important economic and political partner in the region. it's no secret that european leaders , not to mention the biden administration, would be happy if erdogan lost by refusing to impose western sanctions on moscow, erdogan helped to undermine efforts to isolate the kremlin and deprive him of funds to finance the war. erdogan angered his allies even more by blocking sweden's bid for nato membership in the run-up to the elections, almost the entire european press joined in the campaign to discredit erdogan, he was called the second putin and dictator on one of the greek tv channels and even offered to shoot erdogan if he wins the elections.

if erdogan remains in power, he should be shot immediately after the elections, the united states had more reasons to hate erdogan before the elections after the head of the turkish foreign ministry vlyub cavusoglu said that ankara would not wait for a return to the program for the purchase of american f-35 fighters and would seek the return of its money. and this is almost one and a half billion dollars. and the turks flatly refused to share information with the americans about the russian s-400 air defense systems in service with turkey, the united states asked for access to the s-400 in order to study them, but for us this was unacceptable. this was contrary to our independent policy. we refused. so then let's say it, that is, from the point of view of the west in its foreign policy, and turkey is behaving incorrectly in this case. we must somehow change. here's a hmm roll. uh, do you think it will, uh, have some effect or not, but what were the costs of these various

ratings that we also have in russia sociologically, i mean the measurements that we have replicated here in russia erdogan lost almost five or six percent , there was a news statement from there about bookmakers who bet on erdogan's opponents. that is, this is all the same, which, of course, gave the west, the west does not need erdogan at all. it would be great if his opponent won, after all. eh, look. what a story, by the way, erdogan is on the spot. well, personally to him, but through his loyal speakers. i would be here in turkey now these two weeks talked about the fact that if his opponent wins, this is a 100% deterioration in one form or another of relations with russia, and therefore, when our turks are so important in russia, a turk for work is an amazing thing, our turks live in russia either they, then, well, live here, how they live either they work, or they. well, they do some things in russia and vote. this means that the majority is for the opponents, and so on. they don't really understand, of course, erdogan.

maybe they don't like it. he may have bothered them already 150 times causing a burp. whatever, but one must understand and prove to people that if it is not erdogan, then it is absolutely obvious that relations will worsen. after all, look what erdogan's opponent says. he says we will be friends with russia. yes, it is clear that even if he goes to live with russia, he says in parallel that we are for euro integration, you know the eu. yes, and so on and so forth. well, it is obvious that he will immediately be called to the european, which means that it is obvious to solidarity that it will be some kind of partial or some kind of sanctions supported by some kind of hooks. it's true. they're just a delight to listen to, but already yes. bet music transfer here felt like here is the transfer remember love at first sight. no, this is the feeling, now it will spin. this is how we will go to the studio, what do you see, we want to accommodate our program and dates, etc., what is russia interfering in internal affairs? i wrote an article in all the families of turkey

that the article was that he was wrong. we do not have such a tradition. our leader does not communicate via twitter, this is what trump had. yes it yes, he is not right, of course, but on the other hand, each side somehow tries to somehow influence the situation in the other side, if this country is important to him, it’s just that russia also does this more competently than the west. i think why russia postponed yes, postponed the debt for gas last year, why, and so on, russia supports the beautiful erdogan? it is clear that the west is doing it more rudely. uh, more unprofessional. they do too. yes, if our relations have simply become not relations between two countries, but relations between two leaders, as they agree among themselves, so everything happens. and this is actually not bad, because both for us and for the turks. as far as i understand, we are countries where e is

very large, and the importance is transferred to the authority of the main state with other mi. there is no such relationship as a leader, so uh, i think it's understandable why russia is interested in him continuing to power. if yes, relations with turkey are relations with the turkish leader, how comfortable is it? well, let's try to consider this concept, how comfortable we will be interact with turkey if the leader changes, because this expert is talking about what anton valery is talking about, that towards nato, european solidarity and so on, mr. key will look at the road much more willingly, the past weekend in his party, which he represents stated the need to maintain normal relations with russia, while the publication may recently noted that the key is the road, allegedly ready to comply with the decision of the west regarding sanctions against our country, but experts are most interested in what will happen to numerous russian turkish

projects launched by nature. in the event of coming to power, the road from the gas hub and the turkish stream, then the import substitution channels and the same nuclear power plant q, there is an opinion that the economic ties between the countries are so strong that even a dear wing, sympathetic to both nato and the european union, will not dare to break all this. if you look at his policy towards russia, in the event of the victory of the opposition , we will not see too big changes, because turkey is very dependent on russia, for example, in the field of energy. so we do not expect very big changes. when it comes to the policy of the new government towards russia elena vladimirovna and what do you think, if suddenly we are talking not with erdogan, but with another turkish leader. what ties will remain, and what will be broken between russia and turkey - this, of course, is not only the relationship between the two leaders. everything has gone further and deeper, and for example, any flight to turkey or through turkey is a flight full

of russian citizens and the number of our russian tourists in turkey is always the first place in the total number of tourists and they leave much more money there than the germans, than anyone, than the british and the turks know it. appreciate know appreciate understand, this is pragmatics. and if a leader comes who looks, i mean dear kylych for pragmatic reasons, but from an ideological point of view so let's not need it, the previous government made a mistake. this is horror, closing it will not allow any leader to move away completely from russia , but adjustments and revisions of the previous agreements, in this case, there will undoubtedly be what american political scientists are writing now. for example, they offer not only to share data on

the s400, they offer to transfer ukraine to join the sanctions. he will join in the event of victory, he will act in this sense more disciplined as they want, the united states of america will join after that, but in practice any sanctions can be corrected on the spot, which turkish businessmen will do, but from above it will be a more stringent setting is given to comply with. they are somehow demanded by washington and brussels , therefore, for russia, of course, the situation in this case will be two anton two gas relations everything is all, thank you. europe 2 years ago. we said everything is exactly the same, everything is so strong, so i just now thought correctly, but our usual daltermedium. let alexey sergeevich then georg valeryevich and then they quarreled with the turks . rodnik is not only related to the leader.

something else will give birth to us, if the pre-election the program was hidden, quotes in the corner it says that relations with europe with nato, while respecting sovereignty, it is very important for the turks to respect sovereignty, and they understand that russia is the country that respects turkish sovereignty erdogan said about this. but the yesenat will not respect turkish sovereignty, therefore, under pressure. your voter who is still aiming at turkey turkey will not pin the road in the first place. if, god forbid, he takes to power any sanctions against russia , economic relations will continue, because that they are beneficial to turkey itself and to the turkish voters themselves, they began with the fact that erdogan will win, no matter what now , you explain to me, even if everything is chocolate the best thing for russia, erdogan will win, but with a slight margin he will be weakened, and he will not be able to pursue such an active imperial policy. he will have to rely, including from russia. so for us, this is an ideal alignment,

here you are . alignment. this is a dubious victory for the erdogans, in the second round the turkish maidan which will begin and be brutally suppressed by erdogan. this is the best option for russia, because it will spoil the maximum. erdogan's relationship with the west, which naturally supports this maidan, where to go, but not to turkey for turkish interests, deep, purple insidious and people, practically. he has no idea, he has such a page view, different categories, different projects, he doesn’t agree that if the maidan starts there now and erdogan tries will try to crush him and that the west will support this maidan, well, the obvious thing. yes, now he will quarrel, and that's it. and everything will be great. for us, the ideal option is the most optimal regarding. tkemali soil. no

need to engage in unbridled optimism, because mr. first of all, he has the closest ties with the west. he will indeed turn turkish foreign policy towards the west and the task is expensive to return everything, as it was before erdogan , i recall the issues of a specific sanction. that is, turkey does not need anything to enter turkey you just need to join. i ask about this and you just need to really observe the spare seat, said that they can say they can say, we join, but in practice have sex. many gray channels and imports through turkey that have remained will be done informally in exactly the same way as these channels. now they informally exist precisely because the erdogan has a sovereign policy of the master. what color is the stew, that he didn’t tell you there with any sovereign policy he wants to return turkey to the status of a megaphone of western politics

in the middle east, which turkey was before the arrival, you take it specifically written how they should help, megafon said nothing of the kind , and he said it. where do you get this about russia has already been said, in fact, these words are back and these words need to be heeded when such statements are made again. before the victory in the election during the election race, this already creates a certain shade for future relationships. here, absolutely without evidence , there were unfounded accusations against russia by one of the leading candidates for some in the interference in turkey's internal affairs you are interfering in the election race. it's very similar to something. yes, yes, yes, yes , this does not bode well for russia in the event of the victory of the fangs. let's look at things objectively. they are a smart statement in general in general, if you look at the history of the last centuries, and the general relations between russia and turkey there by the ottomans were quite complex

or confrontational, or cold or cool. you on a few had a few drank some very good short moments. there is the very end of e, 18 beginning of the 19 century, when under the leadership of fyodor ushakov and ottoman from the frame. she fought there, and then the french in 1833, then kemal from . he was one of those who recognized the young soviet republic, and now this is the fourth moment in the last few centuries. here are the last 20 years, when russia was really lucky. in a sense, both erdogan and putin found a common language. this is a very unusual event in fact in russian-turkish relations. and this was very important for russia, including in the last 15 months of an even more difficult period, when turkey turned out to be the country that, let's say, directly allowed parallel imports and did not join the sanction, despite pressure from nato and , in general, maintained good working relations with russia if it came to power, that we we can expect with regard to tourism.

yes, it will be kept. turkey is interested in russian tourists and restrictions. they are unlikely to be there. and this means that the logistics of this sheep, the flow will also be preserved, but can it be that turkey will take much more about the ukrainian position than about russia than neutral? yes, it may not be beneficial to be so. you see, it is beneficial for turkey to cover the road, it may be beneficial to establish relations more with the west with those countries with which erdogan spoiled them from germany, france, great britain and the americans, that there may be even more of some kind of pro-ukrainian position, but they were already selling and to them his weapon, he sacrificed his career for a horse and left for the province. i thought you were just a little bit quoting the decision to cover the ukrainian sky. about what specifically, that it was blown up in the warehouses of khmelnitsky or that shells supplied by the british, with combined uranium , shells with combined uranium, could

explode like that. and if they are as far as the area of ​​​​infection with a snowstorm, it does not explode. there were other powerful explosions of ammunition, judging by the fact that a cloud of the order of a kiloton of ammunition was collected there. and the fact that e is present there, there are shells with combined damage were in the frame when they showed that yes drives and carcasses, that is, instead of a person works, and he, e, most likely not extinguishing is engaged in surface disinfection treatment. that is, they suggest that there may be radioactive contamination from this wound 230. although it is not very radioactive, these shots just say that this allegedly happened, but i will repeat it again. uh, these shells with the combined uranium. they are anti-tank in principle, not really, it’s even important. i just read that uh, well, it's practical. there, probably, a day later, information appeared that supposedly there, uh,

exploded ammunition worth about half a billion dollars there. uh-huh, so what am i leading to, is it possible at last? make the assumption that we have begun to strike at objects that the ukrainian army, uh, use for training. here is the most notorious security loop, because, well, it's one thing. excuse me, one thing, we hit uh, i don’t know some kind of energy there, uh. infrastructure yes , infrastructure, but another thing, when we hit such objects, we can say that we have become better, starting with pavlograd here khmelnitsky is still there in the orekhovo region. there were explosions and so on. this suggests that, uh, well, firstly, we have increased the satellite constellation of reconnaissance and started working better. uh, all kinds of intelligence. here. eh, andrey

vladimirovich just interrupted you when he tells you that it’s already been delivered so much now , you see so much now, there is a schedule and where to where to where , and, as it were, for the time being. we, well, left it unanswered. yes? so many will come there, so many will come, so now i can hope that if somewhere something there will be some missiles. that's what soy action is. yeah, there is, of course, on the one hand, you can see that somehow we do not immediately respond quickly. this is slightly related to other factors, but we are working. and even for this missile, that there is shadow today , one has already been shot down. we used to shoot it down in syria , but there were other conditions, because damascus , on which they attacked, was covered by the air defense system . here, the enemy chooses routes into which, together with these missiles, you can launch this adm-160 malt bait missile. this such is their normative innovative rocket, nasty. she's a reb rocket.

it is a mech station, there is no warhead, its main task is either imitation, but cruise missiles or tactical aircraft, so that the radar is within limits, or it covers it with a missile that accompanies cruise missiles in that shadow is made using reduced revolutionary visibility technology. and this rocket is launched along with a neck -mounted pair of aircraft, such as the su-24, which carries two stop shadow missiles, and, uh, the mig-29 aircraft, which is carried by one such boy. they are launched synchronously from the depths of ukraine because when they say 250 km. true, aviation e-e missile storm shadow 560 km. and if they work the ground version, then maybe 1.400, so here, uh, this racket needs to be taken seriously. yes, its air defense system , uh, shoot down. maybe, but you understand covering all cities with an air defense system, it will be very, probably, it is necessary to work according to sources, and the most important source is those who supply,

because since this is a direct threat to the russian federation to its cities, especially we remember the kursk nuclear power plant , which is located nearby, as an important object, then you need to understand that the uk is not becoming a participant in this conflict and, with all the ensuing consequences, and be silly. here, there are some kind of politeness at the diplomatic level to carry out. i think it's useless bogdan that is, if you go back to the trip. what do you think, here is the solution uh, well, i would not like to be mistaken, but let's say they feel that they may have a problem due to the fact that we are russians. to strike precisely at military targets, which they prepare for counteroffensives. somehow this may be connected with this, this is his periodic activity, when he flies, well, of course, he goes there to get a medal. well, in some ways, they talk the main things there in silence, the main reason for zelensky’s trips is the demand for weapons of finance, in general, resources in general, but, in principle, they don’t give it that much.

you can even ask for even more and now , roughly speaking, money and now, too, in principle, he went to germany, they promised him bmp marder tanks, there is security tanks or apart one. well, it doesn’t matter what the difference is, they have 105 infantry fighting vehicles ammunition and anti-aircraft systems and ammunition, they promised to allocate it, and this means that either, firstly, the tactics of using guided russian air bombs planning. uh, it turned out to be very successful held back. this offensive, in response to which they just used the tactics of an ambush air defense system , beat four of our aircraft in the bryansk region, and aircraft. flying corporations quite right, and secondly, this means that reconnaissance in combat, which is now carried out in the area of ​​walnut coal, bakhmut, in the area of ​​​​solidarity and so on. she showed that the forces that the armed forces have, according to zelensky or in the opinion of the operational command, are not enough. that is, he wants to take with a guarantee. here's more and more and so on. or maybe he just wants to evade the counter offensive. under

the pretext that he does not have enough weapons, he creates. if he had not gone, something would not have given me this feeling that he had gone. don't forget last week. he says, that 13. this is what you need to remember. uh -huh, there will be something well, as if nothing has happened yet. really. i'm rich here. than agree. the main goal is, of course, to help. uh, this is zelensky's tour, but here it is important to note what happened before that. all all the approval statements were accurate. it's clear. how much money someone will give how much coordination of schedules and so on, and only then he went not to ask, but to get a kneecap at 19:00 on ntv. move easily from lemax to walk into the cabinet humanity become and so on. and so for the sake of this, it is necessary to implement

a really such a structure, in which zelensky plays a certain role, not from the hand of a bideno, but travels around these countries and speaks. give weapons from zelensky, he appointed zelensky who comes. here, as you know, they went around the market and gathered to give zelensky architects should. well, yes, they say, somewhere you give me tanks and rockets and so on. and if you object, i 'll call joe right now, he makes you from here. you see, because this is part of the general demonization of russia that is now underway in europe, when zelen comes out, he tells the italians there that we had organized a safari here, that we are shooting civilians on the line of military lies. how he breathes, because in fact the safari was organized from the other side. we have a lot of facts, that is, he is lying, constantly in another year already falling into that propaganda with which the europeans are being processed, so that the europeans doubt the role of russia in

history, that she is waging a war of liberation. and no other. that is. here's what 's working now. and zelensky is how it works on two fronts at once and on propaganda and on the fact that these states do not forget that after the next ramstein they all signed up for the next deliveries. let's go on and on from what we said, i still doubt that some zelensky's pr will help european politicians. of course , there is a question of whom he sympathizes with, if we look at other issues, then the majority of 2/3 of german society is against the supply of weapons, more moreover, the europeans have been afraid of confrontation, and lately, if you have noticed a lot. still a little there were several leaks in which zelensky washington published boxing in european media in a different way, as a person who can drag the west into europe into a big escalation, a person whom they are forced to hold back by the tails and, of course , the two main goals are everything else. it seems to me that this is some kind of our homemade speculation. the first is the political diplomatic support, the escalation on the battlefield in the form of the so

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doesn't like the color throne very much. apparently he doesn’t like it very much, because he really behaved somehow completely wrong with his dad. and if compare with his previous meetings here. let me remind you once again that the pope has been promoting the idea of ​​negotiations between ukraine and russia during this meeting for several months now. uh, francis gave zelensky a small sculpture. here you just saw her olive branches, that is, symbols of the world. here zelensky, in response, handed madonna's priest to the horse, which was written on bulletproof vests on machine tools. here's the reaction. hmm, the press isn't very good. eh, how would such a complementary. firstly, everyone thought that it was not good to go to the vatican in this permanent sweater. here in general. uh, zelensky there periodically allowed himself some boorish antics. well, for example, he could greet representatives of the holy see without getting up from his chair. well, in general,

that's all, of course, it's ugly. that's as much dad frankly nasty. this happened when zelensky was asked, in fact, about his fate. these are the negotiations. let's hear about you talking with dad and about the closeness of the russian and ukrainian people. the ukrainian people did not like it very much. can the pope mediate peace in this situation? i am with all chefs of asia to with all due respect to his hierarchy. we do not need intermediaries between ukraine and the aggressor who has seized our territories. we must develop a plan of action for peace, a just peace in ukraine , that is, if it were dima, would you be ready to talk with putin? washington is somewhere there . it’s just that she continues to slowly drain those documents from the pentagon to decipher it like this

these leaks say that in fact , behind closed doors, zelensky demands action from europe, eat the west as tough as possible, and the west, in response to all this teenager , over the weekend, the washington post newspaper , citing pentagon documents leaked to the network , reported that the president is a terrorist zelensky behind closed doors proposed to strike deep into russian territory and undermine the druzhba oil pipeline, through which hungary is not pumped by the way, it is said that zelensky was considering the idea of ​​missile attacks on rostov region and even the seizure of part of russian territory in order to put pressure on moscow in these documents, zelensky appears to leaders with pronounced aggressive inclinations, which contrasts sharply with his public image of a calm leader who is able to withstand russia's harsh onslaught, the use of long-range weapons in the west is actively approved, especially rejoiced the other day the old fascist josel, who considers himself the head of russian european diplomacy, strikes from

a long distance and ukraine needs a weapon that can fire at the same distance, we undertake to expedite the supply of ammunition for such battles. i am sure that they will increase, because we have the financial capacity to deal not finance the matter of logistics. well, against the background of such statements there, zelensky barrel, the pope here looks somehow out of place. let's look at the vatican's interests first. it seems to me that pope francis is really a very sincere person, and he really wants peace. this is so, but on the other hand. tikan is trying to fit into this system do not forget that the pope is the head of the greek catholics. and it is the uniates of western ukraine who are most nationalistically minded, that is, the native bandera galicians. they recognize the pope of rome as the head of their church, and he and the vatican played a huge role in the development of ukrainian nationalism, including the underground asian church in soviet times, sponsoring, uh, and so on,

but against the background of the crisis of world orthodoxy , which is one of the epicenters ukraine for sure. the vatican is trying to stake itself out political positions, because he has other public tools. no, he can’t put the division there once, comrade stalin asked. how many divisions does the pope have? he will not buy bayraktars for him. therefore, the vatican pursues its own interests here and does it at the level of symbolism. here he gave an olive branch to zelensky. it did not please, but rather the question of the prospects of these efforts, but in any case what the vatican is positioning with in this way recalls the same first. he also does pr. this is still working on e, pouring water on a mill, just the same, you also want something about the vatican. russia is set up quite positively, but it has developed. uh, the normal vatican, here’s how normal they can be if the last year of relations with the russian orthodox church, and he really

tries to act as a peacemaker. and zelensky’s goal in this case was to neutralize him in this capacity. he could not. the point is to implement the pope to neutralize as a potential yes, non-credit is peacekeeping, and the actions are simply not succeed. that was zelensky’s goal and it’s no other matter that his words sounded rather rude, yes, so offended that he would start acting? how can it not understand if you are something like that? you see, no matter what the pope thinks about this, if one of the parties does not want an intermediary vatican, the vatican cannot impose its own on either side. this is a personal factor of this country as the president of the terrorist zelensky, he does not want, and not the side does not want. you know how you can shave him as the head of ukraine and proceeds from it at the request of the leadership of ukraine frankly

speaking. maybe i , too, really give out wishful thinking there, but it seems to me that after all, the pope of rome still has some leverage to influence pressure, but the vatican, as such, as an institution. just what again , yes, today or tomorrow china, chinese representatives begin their tour, whale. uh, kiev europe and russia will meet with the leaders now the one who is able to resolve. here is the conflict, the one that will actually be the beneficiary in this whole story. and the vatican, of course. vatican of course intends, so to speak, to take advantage of this opportunity and be known as a peacemaker now chris is not only in orthodoxy , but in principle it’s good, yes, read andriy vladimirovich, then without a queue , everything slipped a little easier here, well, the fact is that in the draft resolution , uh, sevens which begins on friday is written very clearly in the only plan for resolving the situation. in ukraine, there is

zelensky's plan, and that the surrender of russia and, from this point of view, the vatican does not fit into this logic at all. that's all. they the european leaders couldn’t somehow ask the holy see carefully so that it would not meddle forward with its peacekeeping initiatives until they meddle, then. he does not fuss, no, very correct zelensky very correct told him that here, sorry dear. here we have mechanisms for solving. here he is for you he told you sunday, and then publicly to offer some and you won't tell. there is no other way but zelensky's plan, let's stop and now we will sum up today's conversation. in chelyabinsk, a pensioner from the private sector does not allow neighbors from the nearest new buildings to live, you throw sticks at children, where i rushed to cut myself, the museum

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free on ntv, the meeting place, if we proceed from what andrei vladimirovich said, all the countries of the west. very soon they will come out that they support only the zelensky peace plan, which means the surrender of russia, that is, this is an obvious dead end. uh, what's the point in that? well, viktor zhevich? and for the west, it is the dead end option that is beneficial, since they are counting on a permanent long war, which will lead to the military and economic weakening of russia, which happens in one franchise. well the smell is not think that this is a dead end, they expect that the totality of diplomatic economic information efforts will lead to a political explosion after all in russia , split people. they talk about it openly and that's what they hope for. i support these two points of view, but i will point out a small

nuance that this is zelensky’s plan, this is the us plan. i have said many times that the disarmament of europe will get rid of the european heritage. benefit all of europe will sit on american weapons. and since there are no serious answers from us to all sorts of such attacks, they continue. eh, it is the americans who are setting up on this plan, it is beneficial to them. and yes, it's a dead end, who if it's a dead end by definition, they have no other choice. is anything sharply escalated. a protracted war. hmm , they have no other way out for themselves. yeah, the rest they don’t consider a defeat for themselves, which is unacceptable for them. i regularly invite our viewers to our telegram channel on various occasions to see some selected places, and today the occasion is just fine, those who turn on our programs even 5 minutes ago noticed that we also have external changes. eat and those who look, probably for a month and a half, intently understand what is inside. we have changed a little. in general, we will now create a special post in the telegram channel. come there, leave your opinion, whatever

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