rats destroy look right now. hello, is this the meeting place on ntv, the place where everything becomes clear? i'm andrey norkin. my colleague is ivan trushkin. we are working live first, if you will allow a little gingerbread, because last saturday i flew to arkhangelsk, i have never climbed so far north in my life and no offense to petersburgers will be said, but your white night, of course, does not go in any comparison with the white night in arkhangelsk, in general, a huge number of impressions, because i some kind of this northern prostor is the power of the northern dvina. well, it’s true, i didn’t even expect it to be a little cool, but it was all compensated by very kind words, and kind words addressed to our program, including me, i received several messages today. well, there was a traditional discussion, but there were 11, so there were two candidates.

or rather, so hmm well, yes, the candidates can be said for continuing participation in our program or for the early departure of andrei vladimirovich and boris borisovich who will come. we have today at the second hour, well, not call nadezhda, then it means no, and i am for nadezhda. continue, call, do not invite fedorov, then it is written, do not offend fedorov, in the end she came. eh, such a note. say hello to fedorov, respect for marriage and patience. that's how they appreciated your quality, but the gifts are on this side. eh, our studio, only yushin will get a gift. well, since they were handed over to this side. you can sasha yes, in general, dear friends. it's very nice on the other hand. it's getting harder and harder for me to carry it all home, especially on a plane. so elena vladimirovna means to you. firstly, and only here it is necessary that everything is signed, but for elena suponina, and there further it is written for you

such a thing. be careful, this is a fragile straw there, too, a postcard. everything is written there. as far as i understand, this is such a traditional northern amulet. well, or like a bird of happiness , to put it simply, thank you so now dear gevorkulyuschy thank you very much anton valerievich, thank you very much. they are not brothers. they just have a patronymic, so vanechka is a dear friend. so, too, a book, so you, yeah, such people still feed you, which means, thank you, you see, everything here with business cards is done very nice. and so, i don’t know that some kind of marmalade and some kind of uncle, which we should also be all in the open. let's show it briefly. yes, show me, so thank you very much. i remind you that you would not rustle. now i have one more trip to the city, bryansk, on sunday , the fourth of june, before the end of the season. here, now let's

get back to our topic, which we have already voiced in the announcement of today's program , the elections for the second round of the presidential elections in turkey won. as you know, recep taip erdogan, although until the last moment the opposition tried to somehow pretend that it was winning another thing, what happened. it was in my opinion. they are very somehow uh obvious, yet the western reaction was probably overly emotional. because some publications generally wrote that putin won the elections. i don't know, maybe today we'll even show you the headlines that will be like this , and the president of turkey has traditionally, but already sung a song. well, such a victorious one, well, too, of course on the fan, but nevertheless. let's start with these shots.

so the official result for the incumbent president of turkey is 52% voters for his opponent kemal khlych road almost 48% , that is, the split of the country into two camps, it’s really obvious that three ferghana from rivals in the second round amounted to only four percent, while the difference is more than 2 million .votes. erdogan himself thanked those who voted for him and said that he would justify the trust of his parties today, turkey how were we? for 21 years like me already said, we are together to the grave one of the first among the world leaders erdogan congratulated vladimir putin came from just a few hours after the voting ended in turkey and polling stations closed. and here is the text of congratulations where, by the way, putin literally calls erdogan the second word dear friend, this text is now parsed, if not by syllables, then according to the exact words of western big media and turkish media, let's

first take a look at the congratulations from vladimir putin itself . appreciate logged contributions to strengthening not friendly russian-turkish relations of mutually beneficial cooperation in various areas. i would like to confirm our readiness to continue our constructive dialogue on topical issues on the bilateral regional and international agenda . we attach great importance to the consistent implementation of the planned joint projects, primarily the construction of a shark nuclear power plant and the creation of a gas tank in turkey. and now let's talk about the reaction, because separately these words of putin about the gas hub the triumphant of the elections also comment, and erdogan, because the gas hub. understandable topic, very sensitive for both turkey and breakfast. indeed, mr. putin once again raised in his congratulatory message the issue of turkey, namely fraki, becoming

a key region, we will take this step together with them and fragi will become the center. well, the western press, which is before the elections. we remember that you were shown headlines calling for the overthrow of the turkish sultan. these are headline quotes. if anything, now he talks about what is an alliance with putin and erdogan erodes the unity of nato and promises big problems for the bloc. it is no secret that the outcome of the elections was watched all over the world as a member of nato, erdogan torpedoes many processes within the alliance aimed at its rallying. he noticeably warmed up in relations with vladimir putin, and we have already noticed that putin was one of the first to congratulate erdogan on his re-election and promised him his support. here, if you paid attention in the same story, they quoted the same congratulations. so how cherry on the cake is newswick magazine, which predicts that erdogan's victory is essentially

russia 's victory new th logic. vladimir putin wins turkish presidential election erdogan's victory seen as good news for putin whose relations with many world leaders have become strained erdogan himself has drawn a fine line between supporting ukraine and maintaining close diplomatic relations with russia. both countries lie along the black sea, so maintaining strong economic ties remains a priority for both governments. andrey vladimirovich well , about uh, victory. putin, i actually could not only see her. i've seen all sorts of other things. uh, the social networks of england in general are like this how to say? well, this uncle from msnbc. here he says, we noticed that he was almost the first to congratulate

erdogan. well, don't sleep the night, listen, would have called immediately would have been the first. i don't understand. this is the problem, what did he promise support for there? well, sort of on the other side. here, come on, viktorovich , you haven’t had any tasks for several days now, here are these phrases about the president of turkey about the fact that he , well, is with us. let us take a step. and so, he says tailcoats will become the center, that is, here is what we should expect from this new term of his, which, as he says, to the grave, we are together to the grave with the turkish people. he will now be completely liberated, on the contrary, more will hold back what you think, well, we must expect that erdogan, as before, will be primarily guided not by the interests of other countries in america, russia, the european union, by the interests of turkey , i understand this, so i want to understand, now it’s time for another victory, turkey’s interests in his head in his understanding. what they do not differ from those that are from the policy that he pursued before, not counting on the fact that the course of the turkish

leadership will somehow radically change in some direction, it must be said that erdogan, but did he succeed, as a result of these elections, that he was congratulated like that? there the first put, who is the second - this is secondary. the fact is that he was congratulated by fucking putin and biden and scholz and macron, that is, and that is, it turns out that the opposition, which is important , the opposition is not not not not, but protested the results of these elections, everyone, in fact, recognized that he won i won honestly, yes, there were certain ones, if a person, uh, doesn’t have such a feeling, you see, everyone is so happy, everyone congratulates him. maybe it can't whether he loses a little bit, as if orientation and soar straight, and andrey vladimirovich is the other side, uh, of the medal is that his victory and the percentage in percentage terms was not as triumphant as in previous times, he won with a slight margin not in the first, but

in the second round of elections, he is well aware that those who voted for his opponent for the canine. they voted for his opponents. the amount of oglu is a bit valuable. how much as a protest against him is a little part of our conversation about what, why somehow it all ended quickly. the same question here, whether there will be a dizziness from success for the classic there. let's go in this regard, a wildly sober pragmatic politician. he understands everything perfectly. if you take congratulations, that is, diplomatic practice in congratulations , you can see how one or another leader relates to your victory based on the text. and compare, please, for the sake of interest , biden's congratulations, short. there you defeated oksana with a conditional congratulation from putin . these are completely different things. erdogan. all to read between strictly understands, he understands that he was, as it were, and

the fact that the west decided not to take risks and not bet on turkish remained an enemy for the west. independence well , do not play the bank, and the devil to minimize the victory of erdogan. in general, it does not mean that let's be like that, elena vladimirovna, the men, apparently, are afraid of something. so he says that they will do something together there, they will become the center of something. here you can look into the eyes of erdogan and understand what thoughts he still has on the new ones. this is the five-year period. well, the soul is there, who is who, what he sees from whom. well, to start. he is the center of what he wants to become the universe to begin with, it is still important that putin congratulated the first or one of the first, because this factor was publicized yesterday by erdogan himself. right here. yes, he is already quoting and does not want to, when some american analysts said that it was necessary to better count the votes in turkey, they were celebrating erdogan's victory. these are also indicators . until the last, the americans still hoped for something, and yet they were not happy about this

victory, even if he congratulated, but in this speech, erdogan mentioned putin how who congratulated him first and directly quoted this congratulation, that is, after such a pr, everyone then rushed to read , uh, the congratulations of the president of russia, yes, but the center of what turkey wants to become under the leadership of erdogan, a hint sounded again in the same speech, you know erdogan yesterday said or it was already tonight, but i listened to it carefully. he said that he would celebrate the holiday today. what do you think, what holiday do not guess for anything in the world border guards almost almost. well, by no means, not his victory in the elections for 570 years

take constantinople by mehmet troops and erdogan read a hadith yesterday which says, how beautiful is this army that captured constantinople, how beautiful is this world under the leadership of which we took constantinople what does this mean the fall of the byzantine empire, this is the fall of the western world in the form in which it existed in the eyes of muslims. and the fact that erdogan today will celebrate the days of victory in the elections, and the capture of constantinople 1.000, who should wipe the strain, because here i am now for now i listened to you, looked again, this piece. wait, yegor valeevich. here he says that mr. putin, in general, raises this issue himself, so that turkey is the key region, and we will take this step together.

that is, in general, here, as it were, he thinks that we, too, owe this five hundred, seventieth anniversary since the capture of konstantinovna today, we should separately mention tense in washington in brussels of course, it was possible at first yes, the gift in understanding, erdogan ended. yes, aleksey sergeevich flies in many places. let's in fact, this is the anniversary of the ottoman special operation to capture constantinople, but for what? show that now there is everyone crushing the post of the twentieth multipolar world. and just the same, erdogan is seen by turkey as one of the pillars. there is a lot of this polar world, which we all have tea here. actually, that's why this victory of vladimir putin is because russia speaks a lot of the polar world. the turks have already taken constantinople in one form or another, yes, if today this is a hint, then what kind of hint is elena vladimirovna

saying should shudder in brussels and washington yes, even as if the turks are going to take this step with us this step is that we are in brussels now some kind of ottoman empire has become a huge important player in european politics, which i’m talking about, but unipolarists should tense up, that is, they are rightly noted in washington and brussels why? because the unipolar ones are being replaced by multipolar ones, among which recep himself is erdogan. these are the leaders who arrange the world based on the interests of the race. and if the forces in such theorizing, but practically wow erdogan did not allow before the elections in this unipolar construction, and that he will allow himself with all love after. previously , for example, uh, he sometimes pricked the west. yes, in particular, when buying s400s, they refused to transfer them to ukraine or washington. now we understand that he received a mandate. this one is for a more active upholding of turkish policy

about once every six months. she pricking once a month in the west will hurt deeper and more significantly andrey agrees. well, okay. first, uh, first of all. eh, really erdogan's victory was tormented by victory. this is the first. it was really a shock for him that he was able to convince in the first round. this is the first. that is why i agree that erdogan, apparently, will soon drift. yes, it is from dizziness from success that you will try to show what is really. he is great and powerful and so on and so forth that the second round means some kind of accident . secondly, erdogan's victory means. uh, a very important thing is that the road to the european union has finally been closed to turkey before. in general, not that it was it has already been said openly, including by german politicians yesterday, i am already 24 years old yes, more and more. now they are finally convinced of the correctness of their

tightening. secondly, it’s completely clear that now the west has a free hand, and to create difficulties for erdogan, but they can’t any riddles, allies who have their own absolutely well, let’s say. so what will the west do then? uh, as follows, so that our journey here is longer, but more than sure that the west will now begin very large economic problems. andrey ivanovich , well, maybe we are then in this material difficulties that andrey ivanovich says, they did not take advantage of the chance of choosing what you were expecting, what really. that's like ear to ear, they go. and when the vote count starts. well, as it’s already customary to do it now, somewhere something like this will break out, because some provocations will begin, screams will begin, about the fact that the victory was stolen, which means that erdogan gives some order to the security forces to restore order . there, i think, was

one episode. i’ll tell you all my life now, but in fact, somehow everything passed so surprisingly calmly and the maidan did not work out. in a conversation of honor of votes after the second round of elections, it became clear that in the largest metropolitan areas of turkey , the key wins the road. the opposition leader gained a majority in istanbul , where erdogan was once mayor in ankara , and there were provocations in the resort city of antalya, uh biceps. polling stations one of the employees of the joint headquarters of the opposition was beaten , his ribs were broken according to the turkish electoral committee and erdogan was in the lead, albeit with a small margin, the opposition agency stubbornly continued to warm up the situation, claiming that the kilich was actually winning the road and only after the defeat of the opposition candidate was recognized by the turkish branch of the cnn television agency. anka surrendered and wrote down the kalych dorogu as the winner of erdogan , who also recognized the results, but made it clear that he did not consider the elections to be fair. the last elections became

one of the most unfair in the history of the country. i want our citizens over 25 million of which voted for me remained strong. our march continues these elections have shown the desire of the people to change the authoritarian government. a few hours earlier, the position tried to disperse the topic with some provocations at the polling stations and beaten observers, and only after the end of the voting. many expected large-scale riots, but protests broke out only in one province of hockey, where kurds live predominantly. and where less than a third voted for erdogan, the population is turkish security forces. they quickly brought order to the streets. using water cannons, closer to midnight erdogan. for some reason , american president joe biden congratulated him on his election victory via twitter. i congratulate president erdogan on

his re-election. i am ready to continue working with him for the allies of the fan on bilateral and international issues. the turkish position did not take supporters out on the street. but those who supported erdogan noisily celebrated his victory in the central squares of istanbul and ankara with fireworks and fireworks in the air. so antonovich why do you think everything ended so calmly. and what will happen now, as andrei vladimirovich says , partners in nato and other western alliances will try to put a spoke in his wheels, that you are looking at me so carefully. here i asked a question. and where are all those experts now who were even in this studio six months a year ago. eh, they directly resisted and argued that erdogan would definitely lose, that his only, in my opinion, even andrei vladimirovich did not make such a forecast. okay, okay, i won't bathe. i don't wrote down all predictions. andrey vladimirovich , i asked the wrong question. if you wanted to now,

here's what you should have said. but andrei vladimirovich did not give a forecast that everything would be calm, and then he said, no, i gave just such a forecast, always against it. well, let's give your comment one more thing, i would not overestimate it. so, the celebration of erdogan. on the day of istanbul, i am again tambula, this is still an annual holiday in turkey, he has been celebrating it for a long time. there you did everything, but here this holiday every year. yeah, and the victory in the presidential elections is 5 years old, so it’s logical to celebrate. you just don't need to link. this is with the fact that now this is some kind of signal, the west or something else. tie the right one. he mentioned his erdogan. yes, immediately the internal patriotic audience for the patriots is really turkish - this is a holiday. this istanbul has become, so istanbul has become, you know, sort of, yes, if you translate for them, so nothing more is a signal of the field.

now, as for a moment. i just listened to richardagan for a long time yesterday, and he spoke for a long time. he deciphered it himself. he said literally. he said the world is changing now, the world order is changing and everyone who has not yet understood it. yes, turkey will play a very important role in this new order of the world and will play an excellent role. only with all due respect. this is exactly the same thing, he said 2 years in five years, of course , years ago he completely agrees with viktor what it is, that nothing from the point of view of his policy will change dramatically in the future. naturally, he what was and will remain a tough pragmatist? wherever he can, there where he can with the west, it means to contact and receive, respectively, plus he will continue to contact, it turns out now. why would i want

erdogan to leave, because, as i have said repeatedly, his opponent was completely about the west. this would change the course of turkey . this would obviously spoil turkey's relations with russia. it would be more difficult for us. this would be a problem for us. this is a fact erdogan, of course , remained, which means that this, vector, as it were, respectively, it turns out that the west could not return plus there are parallel erdogans, on many other issues. i like including europe burp causes, unfortunately, they wanted to, of course, they invested in it. i told you what kind of sociology was in the first round there, why didn't it happen that they were needed? and not just, so the desire needs a reason. here, erdogan did not give reasons. here. if there really were reasons for dirty elections, or it means that only this anka agency is enough. if i remember correctly, when they say that the elections were stolen from us, look all on the street. they mean listen to me

please mean in different european countries. there are e laws related to the regulation of the activities of foreign agents, right. and as soon as georgia decided to introduce almost the same law , this happened. well, not complete. well, it didn’t happen before the maidan, that is, here’s some direct reason that the president of turkey should have given, that’s completely unnecessary. if he is not pleasing to anyone, as a leader, you understand turkey. so he should have been now somehow under the noise in a big, unfortunately, just the same, in georgia he was the reason. this is it for which pulled out. it was legally the agent because he was hitting, directly hitting those forces that took to the streets. do you remember there came out, as if including the remnants of the former supporters of flashing michael because every story was told they were all americans. georgia should not

accept this terrible anti-democratic non-georgia. and in turkey, erdogan has recently cleaned up turkey very well , including radical elements. the position that she has, of course, can go out into the street to demand something there, but these are not the same radicals and not the same the lawless people who run out in georgia in turkey do not have such. they are tight. let's have a reason, and a reason could certainly be found for any example for anyone. well, let's say that erdogan was added 1% 2%, 3%. erdogan, of course, this is not not checked. here it checks listen, from the point of view of the information war, it doesn't matter to you to check in a week, when it will be even on the street. that's it. chesal something, well , seriously, so why has nothing been done in the information space there is exactly. that's how the information space, there was both western and local opposition is something that is not under the control of erdogan. they just

weighed everything themselves oppositionists. well, firstly, yes, of course, erdogan played correctly that he did not draw 1% for himself in the first round. this also played a role, but it was not. the main thing was that, and all, as it were, internal calculations indicated that erdogan would brutally suppress any protests, mass erdogan withdrew his supporters in advance, even at the time of the vote count. on the street he cares how many opposition the turks will get in the face, at the time it was said it was said, which means that no one will win erdogan. in general, dissatisfied not with nato and the western world. yes, the eu now, they will never take them there, they will put new sticks in the wheels both economically and politically. why then bring it to this, if there was an opportunity? just two moments two moments. firstly, this worries the opposition turks themselves, if they do not have a leader who can lead them so they won’t go, secondly, this worries europe. you can bring

the turks to the streets to help them. take to the street they will be beaten and killed, nafig, erdogan will remain in power, and he will never forget you in your life you need to take people out into the street only with a guarantee that yanukovych was there . wait to take people out. let's talk about the capture of constantinople on this holiday, you know, i was a museum, a military military museum in istanbul last week, and the military museum is controlled by the turkish army by the turkish armed forces, and which, until the last coup of the sixteenth year, were quite simply western such connected with nato yeah. they have a huge panorama there. uh , take a few halls in constantinople dedicated to this, uh, that is, they celebrated it before erdogan and now they are celebrating and after this she will also celebrate. this, of course, is such a state-forming event. uh, a holiday that will always be with them as long as turkey exists, i would not draw any conclusions here from this kubin, it is important that they mention

the holiday, and before erdogan they mentioned that wait, of course, my friends please wait a second. here we have when vladimir putin mentions something before the ninth of may, yeah. this is completely clear to us. why every time in the west start looking. putin again speaks about this on may 9th. why is he saying this? they are the ones who scare us all. they militarize society there, hence the mention. i agree that may 9 was mentioned by all soviet leaders from stalin to khrushchev brezhnev and so on. igor macheva and yeltsin and putin, this is how the ninth of may will always be with us. whatever the power in russia, right, it irritates the turkish the people is it's not even just for supporters. erdogan. you see, the majority of supporters in the county oglu also appreciate the capture of constantinople, because this is a part of such a brilliant part of history, their country is good not to be repeated. you wanted to move on to the pressure of sticks in the wheels,

as far as elections are concerned, firstly, and in turkey there is a system of civilian control over elections, very much like that. complicated very effective, which trusts here before these elections began last and earlier and the opposition supporters of the college, dear and other opposition parties and supporters. uh, rusting data they both say, they both say guard the urns until the last moment, because we have well listen, if you trust the system, you do not say supporters. guard the urns, otherwise this part of the control is a part. this is control. they have them in every area. moreover, the specially held elections became one of the most unfair in the history of the country, said comrade, he is comrades, he is the opposition opposition. i’m very specific here, that is, what they accused erdogan and his, uh, electoral company, they accused them not of the fact that they were not in photo shoots and not that there were some kind of stuffing, not in this. they accused

erdogan's company of unfairly using the information space of advertising, while rdgun was much larger. on television and in the media, rather than advertising clich dorolu, they accused erdogan of using the administrative resource in order to advertise himself in the know, but that's not the question. in fact, almost no one blamed. well so about inserting sticks into sticks. now let's anton varevich, what are you something like something active there behaves. i just wanted to confirm. you can answer three two one. no thanks, motherfucker. well , of course they will, because by inserting sticks into erdogan's wheels, they push him into their arms. in such a situation, they are simply pushing china into the arms of russia as a permanent enemy. this is not turkey this is not a member. turkey's nato is the same, because

they need to resolve issues on turkey. naturally, they will try to tighten the grip , erdogan will react to this. naturally, permanent internal conflict there will be a contradiction, of course, no erdogan will click on the head, they will do everything that strokes, i will not represent sticks, i will not quarrel for a long time. today, write in more detail. here is your vision. which will listen to everything from the point of view of the introduction of a secondary station in relation to turkish companies that trade with russia, this is the first, second. it will be further destruction of the financial system. e turkey and, of course, its west is destroying. yes, countries, a certain economic policy of the leadership itself. the west is also destroying it by bringing it out. and you are very active in withdrawing assets from turkey without giving investments. do not allow turkish investments in the turkish economy and so on. that is, all this will happen, that is , everything will be done to put erdogan in

such a state. well, if it's politics, if it's true and everything will be. how do you say. for us. it's good for russia, it's good. i wouldn't say it's good, because i don't trust erdogan and i will never trust him. this person who will betray us love, we don't trust you either. let's just be clean. here you go see, yes, i invite you here. no , it seems to me that it is logical if such a picture, but it is really some kind of rapprochement then . that's when some kind of collective smell now they drew this. they are building some kind of friendship house, like cheburashka with a crocodile. that's all united against them, well , it turns out so elena yes, well, what difficulties in e. well, the stage of erdogan's rule. first of all, it is the economy. uh-huh western interference in a lot this is related stuff yesterday, just with erdogan bragging about what he sent far, uh, the international monetary fund, and all its loans, and they say it will continue to be all

those who advise from the west, it is not known that we will also be the third, probably, after all, the health of the leader himself. and this is also not an unimportant factor in a terrorist attack, the fourth and fifth natural disasters, including an earthquake. this is a very seismogenic zone. and there may be repetitions of these disasters. here, i would highlight the five main threats, the five main facts of all these threats. they are like that, they are more of an internal story. no why i just wanted to just ask decipher it here. to what extent can they interfere? and what exactly are they? well , yes, they will tell the turks that they are all guys. we will never take you to the eu. well, most likely, they will not say it, they will continue some. here, too, she herself does not aspire to , uh, the european union, erdogan took from them. and a lot of things. e, what he wanted, including multibillion euros for the settlement of refugees

, says that it is time to return back, maybe not in the way that the most extreme nationalists recommend doing them directly, but return of syrian refugees. now, uh, let's go, of course, the west does not like russia's attempts to reconcile uh, assad and erdogan, including talk of what could be itself and including the venue, moscow, for holding this summit between erdogan and assad. and, of course, they will interfere in 2016, the elections failed. now tried it did not work will now. here are such mini-protests suits. is it possible to assume that these five years will be? well, a little quieter for him inside. no , you can't, everything is already being prepared for the next one. elections. so while we're getting ready so on part of the conversation now short pause, we 'll continue.

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summing up the turkish elections reported that turkish-made baraktar drones in ukraine a year after even more than a year after it began, the special military operation has all ended. they cite sources at the united states naval analysis center. precisely on these shock beyraktars. kiev case bet at the beginning of the conflict. remember, even a song was dedicated to them, and now, more than a year later, all drones of this type were either shot down or transferred to reconnaissance last batch of 19 vehicles, allegedly delivered to ukraine back in the last twenty-second year, at the moment only a few remained at the disposal of the armed forces of ukraine from five to ten vehicles at most, and the ukrainian divisions cherish them, because no new deliveries are foreseen yet. well edition hill in turn informs that washington is going to put pressure on the link regarding sweden's entry into nato , this is exactly the goal entoninken sets for himself when he is now going to an informal summit, and the heads of the foreign ministries of the nato countries

in oslo, let us representatives of the state department. listen, we support sweden's joining nato, we continue to actively discuss this with our nato partners, we think it's important that sweden join the alliance as soon as possible, we believe that this will happen. i can't say exactly when this will happen, but this is definitely our top priority . well, beforehand, the pancake is going to look, just in that very problematic sweden, because the largest air force exercises in the north of europe are just beginning there. not only sweden is taking part there, but the whole north is norway and denmark and finland but they are not limited to everything. there will be more than two and a half thousand military personnel from 14 countries, technology has also caught up with a lot. one and a half hundred aircraft, including the latest american f-35 at the same time in finland other joint land exercises, which

are called the karelian castle, have started by the united states and will last only a week until this friday. however, here are the hotels reports. well, very straight forward, they say they are working out interoperability and some joint operations without specifying against. whom and like this andrey ivanovich we are to the activity of nato and who will be in charge of this activity and approached? yes, because we, uh , talked about what may arise in the previous part, some foreign political problems may arise for the turkish president, despite the fact that turkey is a member of nato there, in general, as we know the attitude is not very bright, it will largely depend on how everything will look. ah, who else in nato will command the vine is absolutely right . as we remember, andrey vladimirovich's close friend yen, stonetenberg. in september , he left this position and he finally said that he did not want to do this, so a search was underway. here, we can say that now he is on the home stretch, this search is coming out, who should replace mr. stoltenberg.

according to the publication, the most likely candidate for the post of nato secretary general is now considered the danish prime minister matte fredrikson . several diplomatic sources of the newspaper made an insert on her at once. and that's why, firstly, she is a woman, namely, they want to see a lady at the head of the alliance ; secondly, they want to make a politician who holds a post not lower than the head of government, therefore , fredrikson also meets the criteria and , thirdly, denmark this is a fairly developed country and decisive third-party ukraine but at the same time less belligerent than other allies in the so-called eastern treasure among the possible candidates many women in the 21st century in ennom, it's time to make a woman secretary general of nato, as they did in many other international organizations in sight with a dane among the possible favorites but germany really wants frau ursula to remain the head of the european commission, therefore, she will probably reject her candidacy, even in nato she is eyeing the figure of the deputy head

of the canadian government, christian. true, she immediately has several disadvantages in terms of status. she is shorter than fredriksen, besides, she comes from north america. and it so happened historically that nato has always been headed only by europeans. canada is also seriously lagging behind in terms of spending. vice versa. this is not very good for the image of the alliance. as for the talk that the secretaries general of the alliance may become the prime minister of estonia kaiakalos, according to the ritter agency, this lady was considered too aggressive because of her attacks on russia. that is, even for nato, such rabid hawks are not needed a man in the position of head of the military bloc does not seem to be considered at all, but if he suddenly chooses the first on the list, it may turn out to be british defense secretary ben wallace , he has already stated that he is not against an increase. so andrei vladimirovich which of these citizens do you like best? as your friend noticed, maybe a very reasonable person, and

, uh, with good work experience, and so on , which, by the way, but she has a job, what kind of job he can provide, she’s just that right away she’s a minister in parliament and so further. no. she really more, reasonable because what kind of feces itself, of course, ultra radical and really, they are just afraid, but it’s completely clear what to look for, after all, there will be traces of a woman. so wait, then a question. you have repeatedly said there that a direct clash between nato and russia is inevitable. and if this is inevitable, and this is clear to everyone, then it is more convenient to put some. kayu kalos, who yes, what are they afraid of absolutely no explaining, let's start right away with the fact that denmark is one of those three countries that now form the basis for the f-16, but they like how to teach? no, yes, they are ready to transfer 16 as well, so no, she is, uh , smarter than she repented, but she is also tough and

tough and a second aggressive dumb. well, it's not set. you just said that they are afraid of this aggressiveness, you understand, and that means they don’t want a collision of the year. they say russia claims nato is expanding nato attacking russia we say no, so all the actions that are taken to help ukraine pay attention, they do not go along the line. nato, they follow the line of individual western countries. that's it rammstein meeting something else. that is, it is not called help. we call it. yes, yes, it's like that. a specially invented format, yes and that's exactly why they want to choose such a moderate person, so madam calla does not fit here to say, look, a moderate person is at the head of nato. nato

does not work directly. this is a well-adjusted information strategy. and why do they want to choose their aunt here? that's really fashionable. just some woman's fashion to directly show what u western values. again , all the victorious marches go. fine. let's get georg organized. well, look, it means that, firstly, the nato secretary general is a person who does not make key decisions, this is execution, which is still nothing more, this is the physiognomy of the face in this situation. it would be very nice. if it were, maybe it would be cute, at least a little bit, kind of, so a woman is chosen. this is lord well, there such women continue me, but not the most critical signs. c'mon was the cutest, and the second moment, well, despite the fact that this is power, as it were , the executive yes, the person who occupies must have some kind of i don't know some kind of weight, some kind of party administrative position must listen other

performers at the bottom that is why no less ministers. they are smaller than the prime minister, so that in this european hierarchy an official has some weight, so it’s kind of logical, what will choose, most likely , aggressive non-aggressive, if there is nothing from him, this is a question of an aggressive person, despite the same format, in fact, nothing depends on him, because it is clear that the countries make the decision. this person can blurt out such things, for which then everyone will be ashamed of the blurting will speak in the next chat. remember. this is so, it means immediately the first, and ukraine supplies equipment and that's it. the rest means that through the nato countries they are only for the sole reason that it comes from the arsenals of those countries of those countries where it is stored. they don't have such arsenals, so where does it stand for storage from there and takes away no other ideological one from any history. no, that means that, as far as the head of nato is concerned, it means three functions. he performs the basics. the first is the chairman

of the north atlantic council. this is the leading political body and consisting of representatives of the nato countries. that's what the status of actually the hardware west is for , because it presides from, respectively , those over those people who, respectively from different representations, the second is the executive function, that is, she manages as, well, relatively speaking, as an executive director. this is all the organization of the apparatus, and finally, the third one is he or she is the spokesman. it means common opinion. strange. so accepted to accepted to collegiately. that is, it is a diplomatic function. this is the main speaker, so here, naturally, a person with radical views, which once again. maybe there is no need to somehow expose nato to criticism, so they will choose more fit. antonchik description. so, in fact, this is the choice now. this or that or that does not make any sense to this discussion, because whoever it is, once again political decisions, it is clear that the figure is important, it is clear that this is a figure. maybe, one

way or another, to promote some interests, but in general, this non -decision-making figure is made by the countries themselves, the participating countries themselves, and first of all. naturally, the united states therefore, and from the one who it will be petrov cider, a vase, someone else petrov normal it's good yes, good, but otherwise, by and large, of course, if a radical person comes to this. it can, of course, do harm, but if it is not strong, a radical person, but politicians who are more or less adequate, nothing will change in politics, because it is not the secretary who determines the policy, we will have time to do something else. yes, what topics, what andrei vladimirovich says nato does not seek a direct military clash with russia in nato there are three countries with nuclear weapons and the risk of nuclear escalation between the united states and russia, france, great britain, no one on the other side really wants this either , not as they say. he says a clash is inevitable in primorye, but in nato in general , it's in nato they don't want,

they don't want to go into a direct clash with russia . now, with regard to the choice of the secretary general candidate, we must all agree, almost completely, on what was said and what is the point here. the bottom line is that the west and in the first it is the turn of the united states, which controls nato and it is beneficial for the secretary general, and nato to be a person who is not just under control , who are pragmatic, and whom they know what to expect, but they need a person there who will need to say there he will say , or she will say so, but you need to somehow soften something to soften the person of his position to choose a candidate. whoever tells him this is all say it means. politicians and experienced themselves, but intuitively understand that they are required not to need to call. e from washington someone and would say. now say it's not

how it works. that's exactly what they want , so there is a chance that they will elect someone from estonia as general secretary, for example, with very radical views, there is a chance, but it is, uh, small. why? because such a person? maybe this is intuitively not something that they can’t understand, they don’t want to understand, and somewhere else they will say something, say, he will also think for a long time or can get it done. they want to be sure of this person problems, they need a person who knows how to balance on the edge of the abyss, but not fall into it. it seems to me that these modern women in such positions, they absolutely do not know how to balance women in general, well, he said very well, he knows the biology of a woman, she knows how to do it, and there is more. christina in ukrainian, she and her grandfather are nazis. i 'm sorry. we had to stop . it was said here about such a verbal rattling

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russia russia in a new way will soon be available to all operators in the country. this is the meeting place on ntv, the place where everything becomes clear. we continue. i 'll distribute the rest then so alexander yurievich this is for you from arkhangelsk iphone you see it says irina oleg ponomareva city of arkhangelsk so here you sit, hold now and one more moment. i'm just here because victor giselle has not been with us for more than a week. uh, even my last trip to syzran was sent by the audience such a slightly personal question. i then said, i'll ask, can i ask or not? well, i asked if victor is ready to answer the tasks. the question is a double one. why you returned from america to russia, and if something is in

america now what are you talking about here, being in moscow, these lived at a party well at home better. i always wanted to live in the motherland itself, so i live in russia as for america , it hasn't been for a long time. c maybe you're there for hamburgers. yes? you see, the fact is that i communicate with my relatives, but in general i am not interested in anything else in america. well, here's your answer. so we will now then move on to the topic of this hour, associated with a constant increase in the degree, and discussions political, which, in general, is probably not welcomed in any way, because in general it comes down to direct insults is one thing. although this is also not very good. if this happens, the studio is another matter when it happens between there government officials of different countries. well, as i understand it, vanya, you also have a news block about all sorts of such informational clashes, and

then then let's go to our news selection, it is also about informational knockouts. let's molda and i start there and continue slowly tighten the nuts. here's my sandu on monday morning, the country's president announced the creation of a special center to combat russian propaganda. here is the actual statement. she does this to be called - this will be the center. you will not believe the patriot and he must inform the citizens. i ’ll quote again here, because everything is fine there , the only correct information. well, oral would envy ms. sandu and her talent, russia cannot reach us in tanks, and therefore attacks us and promotes information propaganda to sow hatred to undermine the trust of the people of the state, certain people are spreading kremlin lies. poland, too, is not far behind the president of this country, mister. duda signed the bill, which assumes that a special commission will be created to investigate. which polish officials, officials, other civil servants were under foreign

influence, including primarily under russian influence, will be dealt with with some specific episodes and here in quality. an example was given a story ten years ago 2013. so what kind of story is this, supposedly polish. uh, officials, being in st. petersburg. uh, for some reason they somehow rolled over the aurora criterion and were drunk and will find out in this powder. moss of history, how big it is here. uh, russian influence. we had counterintelligence officers on the famous aurora ship . they put on russian hats and drank vodka with the russians. we found bottles of alcohol at the nato training center during the reign of donald, tusk, they hung out with the russians all the time so isn't it worth it now check? well, where can we go without the united states. there they again single out. let the amount be small, only 1 million dollars, but what am i for bulgaria for a separate two-year training course for schoolchildren and students who will have to recognize misleading information? well, what exactly is not

mentioned, but it is clear that one way or another we are talking about russian influence. you are shocked. andrey, how are you looking at me like that, will you show something like that? no? no, what was shown now. i don't think it's a very scary thing. well here in my opinion, in the polish case, in the case of a collision, it was a donald, a tuska, because things somehow don’t work out there for him , it’s political inside it, you see, they reminded him that well, what else? actually like how if there is vodka like this, then there will be behavior. in fact, i would like to consider other examples there, unfortunately, there is none. and this is a big problem, which means senator lindsey graham, whom we periodically remember in our programs. either he said, or he didn't say, something that, in general, caused very big noise everywhere in all media and in ours not only in our am on the one hand. in

general, he did not say anything new he had before. in general, he was distinguished by such vivid statements. on the other hand , somehow, apparently it's all horrible. well, what is called in the stream. right now, you see, when we are already starting to get used to the fact that, including representatives of the legislature , they explicitly call for killing people living in another country, but first of all, of course, such calls to kill russians. here we are starting to this, it seems, how to even get used to it, then something like that just like a flash is not like that. what are you? how is it possible to do such things, say such things, so the senator or instagram gave us a reason to talk. let's go in order. personnel meetings of the odious us senator lindsey graham with the kiev elite circled not only russian, but also western publications , the congressman sneered at them, smiling, networking with his head, says that russians are dying, and ukrainians are gaining freedom and adding that the us has never spent money before. so lucky

freedom or death freedom or death now we are free. yes, and we will be free and the russians are dying. we've never spent money before. so fortunate. thank you very much video with an american senator caused a strong reaction from russian officials alexander bastrikin instructed to open a criminal case because of the russophobic statements of senator graham dmitry peskov said that it is difficult to imagine a greater shame for the country than to have such senators, but dmitry medvedev called the american senator an old fool, an old, foolish senator said that the united states had never spent money so successfully as it was in vain to kill russians, he is regularly killed in his beloved america. not only ordinary people, but also spend dirty money on the murder of senators, however, a discussion broke out in parallel. is it true that the dialogue between senator graham and zelensky was exactly like that in the networks they noticed signs of editing on the video

, margarita simonyan, editor-in-chief of rt, offered her to check the full source the rapper's agency posted the full recording of the meeting and it turned out that the russian phrases are dying and we've never spent money before. so successfully mentioned in different contexts, later in the office of the ukrainian president admitted that they really edited the clip from different parts of the conversation , the publication by the office of the president of ukraine of graham's full comments showed that there was no such connection in the initial excerpts from the conversation published by zelensky's office. it is clear that these two remarks were made in different parts of the conversation by graham himself. who was also contacted for comments of forgery, he accused not the ukrainians, who began to misinterpret the meaning of his statement, but russia . having attributed everything to our propaganda, however, to call the senator a dandelion, the language does not turn from graham, an ideological russophobe in march, when an american drone, after being intercepted by russian fighters, fell into the black sea the senator called for shooting down our planes so that the united states could enter into a direct military conflict

with russia last year. graham demanded to kill vladimir putin leaves no doubt last bloodthirsty comments by graham during his visit to kiev there is no montage here. i expect the ukrainian counter-offensive to bear fruit in the coming days and weeks, and i am here to inform you that the final chapter of the bahmud battle has yet to be written. i'm here to let you know that holy hell is about to fall on the russian military. here, so what, it was alexandrovich as this saint is, on the one hand, a trend on the other hand. they are tweaking something in zelensky's office, but in general, they are fine they understand that, firstly, there is something to tweak already, as if the base has been accumulated. secondly, they understand that, probably, it makes sense why twist, because this means it will be very well somehow perceived

by their parties. well, from the very beginning you correctly started that rhetoric. well, let's just say the rhetoric of hatred. uh, it's constantly warming up, and no one , with the possible exception of putin, is making efforts to lower the degree. uh, we have the quietest politician. e not only in our country and among our opponents. this, certainly. e putin and so, yes, the rhetoric is heating up and both sides are in this section. here we are too. well, we have a certain brake, because the school of the previous eight years. uh, when in ukraine they were engaged with humane russians, we talked a lot about this. we were told a lot about this for us by certain brakes. we try not to fall into this rut, that is, not to engage in dehumanizing our enemy. eh, well , nevertheless, of course, why? let's be completely cynical. let's make it easier for a dehumanized enemy to fight easier than him and no.

you incorrectly formulate a dehumanized enemy, or is it easier to kill. ok then. uh , andreevich is simply politically correct to formulate no, no, no, no, not polycorrectness. i need the correct wording here, because from the very beginning, uh, a special military operation. and this position has not changed. uh, the task was to save our soldiers , to save civilians, and in fact not to crumble, uh, into the nonsense of our enemy. i mean the ukrainian tactical enemy, then the situation changed. eh, her our opponent changed when they started, that is, well, all those military crimes that they committed, the americans listed it. you can list them over there . of course, they led to a change in the situation. now we really. we grind the enemy, this is happening, but we must remember about ourselves. this is fundamentally important,

if we dehumanize someone, then we ourselves dehumanize along with this. we must remember this. we must save ourselves , save our soul and the soul of our people, and save ourselves, strange as it may seem, in the war about to say this, also tolika mercy in relation, including zakhar hello it was not in vain that he named them, because our unfortunate enemy. we must keep ourselves as people as people right away the question, and graham's wedge we also have to save only mercy even even brushing aside this story this story seems to be twisted, in general, in fact. i've talked about how to deal with such cases. and i am very glad that our states have finally done just that. that is, uh, let him speak, asked thanks to kiev for setting him up, i don't care to put it up or not, he could say that, yes, of course, accordingly, we opened a criminal case. we applied for it.

on the wanted list, and so it is necessary to do so with everyone who allows it, all conversations, so that you don’t get it, we’ll get it sooner or later, but they should all know that they are under e that we will start a criminal case against them, it is desirable that we still they didn’t also hold courts and pass sentences in absentia a little bit now it’s technologically difficult, therefore, i propose to stand here on the part where alexander yuryevich said that we must preserve the soul in ourselves. uh-huh, and even a little bit mercy, that is, well, at least not to swear. how did dmitry anatolyevich call himself an old fool for an injury. and we can call old something that, for example, we do editorials. we have there old fascist josé bars or why because , well, fascist? in response, we began to call it that and i will pay attention to the fact that in recent years there have been two. ah, well, rhetoric in diplomatic political level and before that degraded, as well. two years already. well, gary's shed

and hut just burned down, this is degradation or just actualization. i just watch. uh, such insults change, the rhetoric changes accordingly. i will remind you how the same biden. e, there e nodded when they asked, well , putin’s killers or not, the head of state calls another head of state, and then he calls the killer after that he offers to talk about the climate just a few days later, such a theater of the absurd began a few years ago, this degradation. why because it is verbal bridge burning. this is a sure sign that no one intends to negotiate with anyone. yes, even in the long term. and now the opportunity to negotiate is burned with such insults, including, uh, this is the upper way to war. this is exactly what is happening, that is, if we have the atmosphere, as aleksey andreevich says, our only politician who does not allow himself anything like this. this means putin. uh, does this mean that

the president leaves somewhere in his head in his plans an opportunity for because that he immediately closes the transition to personalities will close the door right away, yes, putin himself may be left about this, but our western partners do not leave him such chances. let's call them that, i agree, and they are doing everything possible for this. maybe let's get the next piece right now. let’s show this one, there are not some senators , there are all sorts of american ukrainians, talking heads, including the heads of military epaulettes, and ours there, who dispersed all over the world and also gently. what, to put it mildly, allows a lot of things. the other day, russians were threatened with massacres by their chief ukrainian intelligence officer, kirill budanov, in an interview with the western edition, he said that russians would be persecuted and killed all over the world, and last week, in an interview with ukrainian journalist dmitry komarov, before the special operation in russia, he was known as

travel- bhutan blogger called crimean residents mentally ill. excuse me. we are now going to return 3 million people. who lived under russian propaganda for 9 years, in addition to the fact that 3 million not very dedicated people to return. it's not not very loyal people. these are mentally altered people. these are not even ideologies. this psyche spurs on reprisals against the father, domestics and fugitive russian oppositionists, not on agent mark finger, in a conversation with another foreign agent, taras berezovets, said that officials from the border regions with ukraine should prepare for executions. this rdk of the belgorod region will be put against the wall of the glotkov. all the guidance is there. the regional will be shot, of course, so it will be. let nika illusions do not feed all the walls. so bogdan anatolyevich i understand the soul mercy i understand everything, but i also agree with alexander, we don’t agree, it’s difficult

to accuse our soldiers of the times of the great patriotic war of being some kind of superbeasts, though uh-huh, but at the same time , remember the propaganda that was during the great patriotic placard, for example, dad kill a german, or what ilya orenburg wrote kill the germans. it was a direct sign of the poem that came to you these people, right now the heirs seem to be those same germans in this crosses pose, there and so on. and as for what lindsey cream said? no, the editing here doesn’t change anything at all, he still thinks so, he still says so, moreover, a significant part of the american elite thinks so. it's just now being expressed openly. and ukrainian too. you forgot one more person. here is a wonderful character - this is peter rublevsky ambassador of ukraine in kazakhstan if bogdanov, but i don’t know at least he is a security official there, we still remember what i wanted i would say, here are all these talking heads. they should at least get some kind of trepanation, as if they were hacks, because this cannot be left unpunished. we cannot liquidate lindsey graham or some insignificant feigin or beryozovets,

it is not only possible, but necessary, to liquidate. and why do we need liquidation insignificance? this nonentity insults us also because it does not inflate the fact that it is an application. here's to this graham tape we can destroy for the secretogram no, because there's room for negotiation. this is a senator. here even you say the words here, but feigination is possible and well , because this is that part of the timing , these are his small tentacles that can be cut off to destroy you need bogdan that is , you started from what you remembered the orenburg killers. i just met more than once in social networks reflections. that without the updated kill the german in our today's special military operation, the victory that we are all waiting for, but these are just very hot people. they say it's practically impossible, as far as you as far as you agree, no war, no war. no battle is possible without the fact that a soldier feels hatred for the enemy and there is no humanization at least a little

, another thing is how much it should be on the scale of our country and culture. we cannot completely dehumanize the enemy. yes , these are because the opponents are in many ways the same people with us. yes, and therefore, too, but those who spoke there just now, we will now go to the belgorod region. first you dream a little, lower. here we have boris borisovich who constantly causes e, fermentation. eh, in the minds and hearts now was in arkhangelsk. i just told you now, there are half of the messages. nadezhda, who touched your person, was there. well, a little less than half that, well, you still don’t need to drive into hopes. e, let him come at least and say things that are not very pleasant. especially, of course, here's what you recently said about putin. here is your opinion. this is, well, a verbal story. how seriously does it affect public sentiment in general. well, those who started, sometimes people listen to you and the truth. here they have a desire, there

the stab ones are compressed to be with you to do this , explain to you boris, you are wrong. they zombified others, comrades, who do not love me. i understand that there is truth that is unpleasant and, in general, it is unpleasant. what i want to say, you understand? what a story, here i have a german, yes, absolutely relevant , when the nazis stood near moscow when they bombed the soviet guys and bombed soviet cities millions of people died, they destroyed soviet cities, including there kharkov to kiev odessa and so on. these were soviet cities. yes, they didn’t destroy anything, uh, they didn’t kill anyone, uh, khabarovsk yes, yekaterinburg and dolgoprudnaya were definitely not bombed for millions of years, so the scale here is artificial, as if what is wonderful you say that there is truth, which is unpleasant, but it turns out

so it's like the only truth that exists. it's true, your alexander yuryevich tells you, but donetsk was not bombed, and you somehow already forgot the children in donetsk. not really, these are ukrainian mountains as of 1914 - this is ukrainian territory and any regime. even vile 14 1914. this is a little earlier. yes, he has very good index bases, and this is an absolutely understandable reaction of statehood. russian army. victory kill children kill children. this is a normal reaction. you forgot about it, yes. here is such a light, that is, russians can be killed if they are outside the borders of the number of destruction and victims that were in old-fashioned states on e, the twenty-second year here. the scale of the destruction of mariupol on the magnet and so on, but it had to be brought to ruins. boris is not you

now it was necessary that the people in donetsk everything, yes, yes, and then you can have a concept. you are leading a certain logic. i'm trying to understand the mortal reaction as a proportionate reaction. yes, no , the state has been killing russians for 8 years, but our citizens have wound up that everything can be agreed, damn it, so, dear comrades, about hatred, inciting and so on. the main problem is something. what it consists in is that the russian people the russian people are tens of millions of people who live in dolgoprudny khabarovsk there in arkhangelsk yes? yeah, they absolutely attacked in belarus there is no such word. no, people live ordinary lives. quite right, so that this ends faster, so that their children are not taken away. here there is this meat grinder and so on. what do people want? yes, here we are

, the unfortunate man. you are just an unfortunate human victim dear all. i bend god bless you, i overthrow vladimir, so i suggested another president. victim victim, dear everything. please shut up, vladimir quietly owns everything, hit him quietly with your scandinavian creative hand only comments. uh, boris borisovich, that the people who live with us, they do not feel what is happening while you immediately say that they all want it to end quickly and that means their children. eh, they didn’t take them to the war so they feel or don’t want the children to want to stop in this after the war immediately then after the plot for a couple of minutes.

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the united states and russia, even at the official level, well, the americans say that even during the cold war in such terms and with such emotional there was no heat. but how then if something of such intensity to negotiate, let 's then our reaction, because we begin to respond to what they called us and called us for many years. now they are answering. director of the russian foreign intelligence service sergei naryshkin was not shy when he commented on the situation in the middle east, he recommended london and washington to get out of there to hell , the anglo-saxons can be advised to deal with their internal civil conflicts. better yet, get out to their old an enterprise where, to the devil , dmitry medvedev, deputy chairman of the russian security council, from the first days of the russian military, switched to extreme harsh rhetoric both in relation to the west and in. address kiev enemies of russia, he called the bastards and degenerates.

and this is still a rather soft quote these days, while on a visit to laos, he commented on the appearance of ukrainian saboteurs in the belgorod region , as for these scumbags, if i started to name them, i can’t characterize them in different ways, the only question is that to do with them, they just need to be like rats destroy and not even take prisoner. in the chinese press, they speculate that even sergei lavrov, who has seen everything, seems to be starting to lose patience, they say. never before has his rhetoric been so harsh in relation to the united states and in relation to kiev, he calls the kiev authorities inadequate, and the regime itself without any ephemisms, a terrorist terrorist state. they themselves. actually, they introduce themselves into this, into this, into this quality, and i have no doubt at all that the puppeteers who are sitting in washington in london, they begin to think about how these people adequate to its still official stands. we didn't say that. do you think that this may be the very dehumanization

of opponents on the sly, or is it just emotions already an expression of the intensity of the struggle. i would not say that this was not the case during the cold war, and he will remember the khrushchev who spoke. we will bury you. this is the kitchen, good for you kuz'kina mother, and this and so on and so on, and i as they called the regimes about american shelters there. gang clique i'll remind you why he clapped his boot protesting if he doesn't cheat there were many such examples, and there were many such examples, and they attacked soviet diplomats and killed them. god forbid, and doused with paint, that just was not. we have returned. here's to the heat, i'm worried about the statement. this half-wit, let's use this kind of rhetoric, senator. uh, by the way, what alexander suggested is a discussion, it is more important than that senator said he said and said, then, he said they mounted it, they didn’t mount it, they care about something else. why does he even makes these statements in kyiv? why does he come there? why is he meeting with e zelensky and

at this time the air raid alarm is not working. here, dmitry anatolyevich makes a very sharp statement cool, but dmitry anatolyevich , deputy chairman of the security council , must destroy enemies, like rats were properly crushed on the territory of the belgorod region, and on the territory of the kharkov region they should be pursued by drones. they did not become other means of fire destruction. here is what the russian federation does, often tough statements, and they are followed by nothing that draws a red line that allows you to violate and there is no answer. this is what confuses many in the world and provokes yours on the red line. specifically, one attitude of enemies is provoked to such provocations, such actions in the future are the most powerful step. here is the red line that was marked and completed. well, if you like, a threat or a retaliatory step is the deployment of tactical nuclear weapons in belarus so they did not believe until the last. that's when they made sure that yes, it definitely will.

yes, there is practically already, but then they were just dumbfounded and, in fact , the reaction was there, well, fright, i’ll tell you, if you look at the polish media, this is a big step, so maybe sometimes the rhetoric of officials needs to be spent. but actions should be tougher than this, it seems to me, that russian society also requires. it is enough for viktor to ask you a question again, the president of russia did not indicate any such clear red lines. and this is the first. and other speakers in russia don't necessarily decide a lot of things. uh, let's say so and by and so proceed from the fact that some speaker on some channel said that there is some kind of bear in the deputy chairman of the security council, you know, if you listen to everything that he says, if you listen to everything that he reads, everything that he says is written by dmitry anatolyevich medvedev and that's all threats that he, but the authorities are obvious that the main part of

the informational activity of dmitry anatolyevich medvedev is aimed at the internal stressed internal audience. he acts as a propagandist, that is, it is for fun, in fact , in many ways. yes, i don't understand very well. wait a second. we are now here uh in the same uh, talking or just in this commercial break. yes, if we talk about the internal audience, i’m telling you, that’s how much i drive now, but for a month there is a year and two months first of a special operation. i had a lot of trips around the country, there are several dozen. well, if every week i go somewhere to some city, or even at two, so they never asked me at concerts or not at all after the concert some kind of there is a question related to the fact that we are like- then it's very tough there, we're here on ukraine, like boris borisovich, they always ask me one thing, why is it taking so long? yes, why are we not so decisively, well, roughly speaking, really.

that’s why we didn’t destroy them like rats, wait a second, then if you say that dmitry anatolyevich acts as a propagandist, and it’s like a little pretend, then they don’t really understand it, if it’s a public reaction, as tough as possible, more decisively faster destroy the enemy, then what's the point in such how would these propaganda statements if there is no action behind them, because then i as a society will have this question. are you guys? why are you telling me this again and nothing is being done. you understand when you say that the audience here, the listeners at concerts, ask a question. why not tougher? why not destroy everyone like rats and do something else? i would ask them a counter question. are you ready for all your children to die or what? you crushed them, as they want them to be there, that's why they even yawn ask this question that they don't want to. then then we need to strive to ensure that this conflict, which sooner or later, what any conflict will end, who told us

to bomb bomb is not relevant. why because the resource, because borisovich could , your time has not yet come to join, if russia now has the resources to decide e to establish control over ukraine is not. no, and it won't be anytime soon, for a whole host of reasons that i won't be able to address them now for a second about the cold war. that's what's what to me, honestly speaking, it is very evocative. this is a very uncomfortable feeling. what is the difference between the new cold war within the framework of which we are now in the past. indeed, as they said right here, some soviet representations abroad were blown up. i'm not talking about the twenties and thirties, when the white guards participated there. i'm telling you the post-war cold war. yes, how does it differ in the past and the cold war during the last cold war, two such ideological systems fought, and they fought against each other, and now they are trying to

the impression is created that he is trying to take revenge, and anger on ordinary people, and to take revenge on athletes not to let them go to the olympic games or to international competitions, to take revenge on journalists, but to take revenge on experts. there was the international panorama program in the ussr, where alexander boeing was golden, and gerasimov’s cavern in other soviet journalists would never have occurred to anyone not in the seventy-fifth year, not in the seventy-ninth, not even during the afghan war, where eighty-second to anyone. it never occurred to us that western countries, whether americans are europeans, who are the australians? someone else imposed sanctions against people who are simply, but in support of their power in their country. i see, unfortunately, and by the way, it won't spoil. or , for example, the tour of the bolshoi theater touring in anyone's head. why is it then now here it is in these conditions

it is happening it is happening now, because , and there are no two reasons for the struggle now, and the first struggle is not ideological, but against each other and here there are no two modernization projects. some kind of socialism is not a project to say beat beat beat everyone who can be? and to do damage is a very, very bad story , which, unfortunately, is now very fast. the second reason is that, of course, the soviet union had many allies during the last cold war, and they and these voices of an ally in various international organizations. they simply did not give the west the opportunity to attack russia like that. okay , let's go back. that's what they were talking about now, that's dehumanization, maybe yes, changes, as it were, the methods of introducing this cold war. you at some point i can't remember now. at what beginning? why, not agreeing to nod your head, a and b are one franchise, that i will answer, and well, look.

eh, why is medvedev's tough rhetoric, but there are no real actions that people are waiting for, because partly the harsh rhetoric of dmitry anatolyevich and other speakers that exist in the russian federation replaces tough actions, and which could take place in the fields. look, people like it. look how he attached it, it doesn't matter that it's just words. it's the same in ukraine they applauded when they sang a song about putin there , but you can’t do anything, well, put in a word well done, orel that’s how it happens, so i’m waiting. it's just that when diplomats in the united nations begin to simply send three letters to each other, and this will happen inevitably. let's if we have time bogdanchik, briefly, firstly, i would like to say that everything. that's what boris borisovich said there, it's all propaganda well , forgive that, did the ntv management pay oriense graham or there, let's say?

sandu to someone else? this is what, this is our propaganda, after all, what we are discussing here now. this is what comes from there. the west is what in fact has always been there since the nineteenth century, the term russophobia was mentioned by tyutchev in his letters, the second. excuse me. so you say that soviet cities were not destroyed there. but what about when the united states , for example, brought its contingent into somalia under the pretext that there was famine or genocide there, there were only violations of human rights, a violation of human rights, they never bombed yugoslavia in 1999, an example hackneyed, but he's far away. it's very far from america. why are they eligible? they glorify they occupy films there the fall of the black hawk died there. they have 18 people, it loses no, well, she herself thinks they went to afghanistan to grow their examples in syria, they are still not in xt- why are they not proud of this? yes? let's just say now it's not about america, he's talking about the word. wait now for thousands of america and we have something here at hand is the territory of historical russia absolutely. it is in our

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the meeting place on ntv, the place where everything becomes clear. we continue emotional knockout from all sides the examples that have been given to you for the last hour. he is now such that, probably, to talk about some agreements, negotiations of reconciliation between some specific participants in this emotional intensity. well, we don’t have to give you now some figures in ukraine and ukrainian society. eh, let's show, because the numbers are extremely eloquent. this is all centrrazumkovo and its numbers. we refer to them ukrainians were asked whether they support direct negotiations with russia to achieve peace. well and here you see almost 64% answer negatively. no, it does not support 13 more find it difficult to answer the question in the bottom line for negotiations, but in fact every fourth resident of ukraine and another survey

by the razumkov center. e on the topic is reconciliation between russia and ukraine possible ? only one in five won 21.6% believe in this possibility. but the third believe that reconciliation is impossible , of which one in three does not see any prospects for peace at all, and about the same number believe that a lot of time must pass and therefore they chose the answer during their lifetime reconciliation of the current generation impossible alexander yuryevich you are ready to somehow develop the reconciliation of the current generation in their lifetime, perhaps or not, you know, i will say, so in january of the forty-fifth year. uh, ninety-nine percent of germans. uh, they were sure that they could never become anti-fascists, and in may of the forty-fifth somehow all races became immediately forgiving. they became the forty-fifth year do not forgive. no, no, no, no, no, always. well, just zamkov's

painted houses. they must have extremely come out long known, but manipulated, but, in in principle, yes, more or less, even if the vast majority of the people of the population in all countries, including in the south countries, including in our country, er, there is no country in the united states, yes. uh, these are people who do not have an active position. and they, e, lend themselves easily to their influences , and they, in principle, can be manipulated and climb out doing this. what time is it that these numbers can be mirrored very quickly, because these are people who adapt to what they want just it's normal to live in all countries of the world, here in america everywhere, therefore, when we finish a special military operation, thanks to the regime that dmitry medvedev needs. here for it offered in the third variant. here we will offer these people other frameworks, other parameters, a normal life. you will say, thank

god, so the shops do not shoot, the schools open, and there the children still do not take down the brains wonderfully, and everything will be fine. these figures didn’t hear anything at all about what the borisch shouted out to you. that is, i never did not hear. well, that's why i'll bring to your attention now, how to say that people just want to live normally in peace. he says, here i am, here i want only yours. wait a second, your option, when we punch a special operation on it, it must be urgently completed. here's how i'll just translate it. yes, here are the people who are in favor of peace, for example, i, yes, i am for peace in general. yes, and the enemy of the war. i stand for the world after the victory necessarily. yes, because they want to destroy us, we were not told a condition by you this normal life will not be. we will make you live differently. we said there would be no such thing. on february 24 last year , we launched a special military operation. after that, we have indecision to reproach nish but now, but today i am for peace after victory,

armenia i am for peace after victory, and my opponents are for them instead of victory, comrade. eh sir. forgive nadezhdin, yes, who says, well, everything is normal, we all end up fighting. we will all live normally , this is peace instead of victory, we do not agree to this. must first somehow wrong we won't, we won't live normally instead of victory and why maybe boris borisovich will just happen, and what will it look like for a second? either you will not live, or you will not live like this. as you wish. and as they tell you. what victory looks like we see in bakhmut a city in which 70,000 people lived, kindergartens were there, well, magical children simply wiped off the face of the earth, everyone fled from there, who could just run away if victory looks like this how to capture the ruins without people, but i not mariupol which is being built i want to say, but will begin sooner or later, and they will begin

not at all because the ukrainians, who now hate us, will suddenly fall in love with us, or such patriots as alexander. by the way, i respect. yes, he is open in his position, he says, suddenly they decide that we all made a mistake and mastered everything in vain. let's end no. everything happens differently everything happens when both sides understand that further continuation of hostilities does not lead to any happiness leads only to victims of destruction and blood and deterioration in own country blockade of leningrad unfortunately, it was necessary to hand over all the rest. they are when the parties love each other, and when everyone understands that the further death of thousands of people, when the men end up in the cities, they are already ending, in some russian regions they simply end, and

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that's just your question and you are the first to answer it, uh, how victory should look like, we are now in a tragic situation when there are two losing sides - this is russia ukraine is the benefit of the acquirers - this is the west, which in russia is essence into this trap and a-a successfully lured, therefore, the sooner this situation ends, the less damage and in the number of dead wounded , maimed and skeletal people both in russia and on ukraine victory - it's just the speedy completion of the operation that the victory was quickly decisive. first, at least russia must , in accordance with the constitution, bring its territory, let me remind you, according to the basic law of the russian federation, hostilities. now they are conducting on the territory of the russian federation not on the territory of ukraine the second to remove this regime of zelensky, who is located in kiev, and then the third is negotiating with the west. there

, about the future of ukraine, vladimir viktorovich well, i have a realistic look, and we won’t have much time, this and other realistic comrade kanoshkov will come out. i don't know, or someone else will say, comrades. we won, this is how it will look like, victory is a realistic look, but it is idealistic. and when i see the leaders of russia and the united states of germany at the same negotiating table, then it will be possible to talk about some kind of victory, so boris borisovich, the sooner this nightmare ends, the better. but dance yaoping left china china vietnam, the chinese attacked vietnam under the same sauce absolutely alone identification of demilitarization and so on, nothing of the kind came out and the densionat said , we defeated the vietnamese army

, the rights of the chinese population of vietnam were destroyed and everything in japan ukraine is not on the political map, point two. as a result of this united state of america, america is collapsing eurasia, together with china, india and other leading countries of this continent, maximum only very short. victory is the destruction of the ukrainian state, neither people, nor territory, there is no infrastructure, but the state of the elite, the army, and in fact. uh-huh and i summarize, probably, what was said in one franchise alexandrovich bogdanovich elimination of the threat. how does this elimination of the threat look like income up to some borders or at some point by signing an agreement or some kind of weapon is removed from somewhere. we must stop feeling an existential threat to our state. this will be clear, and in these sentences you don't feel it. no, this is an offer to surrender like this, and on the first on the very first. today's program is a program, and one uncle in moscow comes into a beauty salon

in a solarium and says, here's the money. i need a 2 hour session, he says, yes, you can’t go to the solarium for 2 hours. this is very harmful and dangerous. he says, you don't understand, i have to go back to zhenya from a week's vacation tonight. in turkey, this was a meeting place that cannot be changed. we meet on weekdays at 14:00 or ntv until goodbye. in the presidential elections under fire, ukrainian militants do not stop shelling civilians.