their sympathetic starting point is june 12 , the birthday of modern russia, which was then dreamed of and what came true soon our country will become a better russia has never been the second look right now. hello , this is the meeting place on ntv, the place where everything becomes clear. i'm anri norkin my colleague ivan trushkin. we will start working live today, so to speak, from the ram, despite andrei vladimirovich and fedorov's statements yesterday that even such a convinced pro ukrainian leaflet, how the german edition of the bild brought a photograph of the destroyed leopard to its front page, kiev. they say talking heads they claim. so there is no counteroffensive. well, by the way, andrei vladimirovich also confirmed this to us, how would he receive this information from

them, it’s there, either a curtain, or some kind of test, so, in fact, the counteroffensive will be a little later on a different scale. the western press obviously does not agree with this. we will not quote you now there later let's talk what they write, what different politicians say. western. in general, they say that yes, the counteroffensive has really begun. so much clumsily, although recognizing the losses in some cases, they say the losses of ukrainians are significant, they immediately explain to the window. how should we have warned you? it's kind of british, i think. yes. well, vanya will now tell you more. here, nevertheless, the enemy. ours does not abandon its favorite terrorist methods. today another terrorist attack took place in voronezh flew there, the drone hit the building where the office is located. there are broken glass, the facade is damaged. let's take these shots. forgive me right now and look first at the characteristic crackle of the blades. so they determined that this thing was flying, they began to shoot it, then

a drone. here we saw a dive on a residential building and an explosion thundered. now it's frames. then the facade was damaged from the site of the terrorist attack, as i already said. broken windows, the tass agency , referring to representatives of its structures , reports that the drone was aimed at voronezh aircraft factory, but on approach by means of radioelectro. nnoy struggle apparatus put out of action. now intelligence officers are working there. telegram channels claim that the explosive device carried by the drone was stuffed with steel balls for a greater damaging effect. here is one of those balls. now you see on the screens the governor of the voronezh region alexander gusev convened an emergency meeting of the government of religion. they decide now. how to ensure the safety of residents of the attack on voronezh naturally, commented in the kremlin we saw a message that it was shot down and, in fact, an already shot down drone got there, but the details are being specified

, special services are working that deal with this, and the kiev regime itself continues attacks on civilian infrastructure facilities on residential buildings. so these are the activities of history. yes, it continues, but we continue to fight with it, and this is how the air defense systems worked today and in belgorod, on approach to the city, they intercepted two targets , the governor of the region announced this. vyacheslav gladkov you also fired on the belgorod region from a jet hurricane multiple launch rocket system, according to preliminary data, three rockets were fired around 9:00 pm. we flew. they are from volchansk, and several houses and cars in the village of razumnoye were damaged by rocket fragments, also according to the governor. gladkov, ukrainian troops launched massive attacks from hailstones on the city of shebekino, this time there were only about 80 volleys known about three, the victims

were assisted on the spot. there were calls to the operational staff to my reception, well, in the morning, as always, let's start here, fix the destruction damage to everything. will try fast. uh, that is such a recovery. and so, despite all this evidence, not rebuttable, in my opinion, terrorist activities. kiev in brussels still continues to accuse russia of shelling the civilian population, we will now let you listen to the saying of the old fascist and part-time still the head of european diplomacy. we are receiving reports of shelling that jeopardized the rescue work of civilians in the kherson region. after the destruction of the kakhovka dam. we call russia to immediately stop these unacceptable actions. this may constitute another war crime. all those responsible will be

held accountable. let me remind you that on the eve of the ukrainian militants. cannon artillery hit a bus in the city of golaya pristan on the left bank of the dnieper at that moment, people were entering the bus, the driver died, a pregnant woman, 33 years old, died, two more people were injured. these shots were taken by our colleagues at the scene almost immediately after the impact the place that i said that they are evacuating here, only civilians drive. but the iconamis magazine placed on its cover, fingers crossed for good luck in the colors of the ukrainian flag, they say. let ukraine strike back. well, it is clear that the main news in the western media is now almost officially announced. they also western media ukrainian counteroffensive. moreover, they say that it is going in the same place

as expected in the zaporozhye region, and they state the beginning of the offensive and the washington post and abc news, they refer to sources, close to the president terrorist zelensky today nbc. new became. it is known that after a month of training and preparation, the ukrainian counter-offensive to return the territory began, two sources in the military department of ukraine said this, unconfirmed footage of the russian ministry of defense taken from zaporozhye drones shows that ukraine for the first time threw western military equipment into battle, but the russian side did not is losing ground, while western publications are already reporting that ukraine is suffering heavy losses both in the same equipment and in personnel, but with the same western buildings write this. well, never mind ukraine we warned you that the offensive would be difficult, so don’t blame me, let’s take a closer look here in an interview in the washington post, one ukrainian military man described what is happening as continuous heavy fighting,

the main blow to the force, again according to the publication, fell on the zaporozhye region, there trying to advance from near orekhov to tokmak and vasiliev ukrainian troops cnn commenting on the battles in. zaporozhye writes in full. during these attacks, they suffered serious losses in heavy technology and personnel. because they faced stronger than they expected resistance from the russian troops. this publication was reported by two high-ranking american officials. one of them called the losses, including american armored personnel carriers, significant. well, the military columnist for the german newspapers bild. julian rebki reported the loss of the first leopard tanks. apparently, german tanks met fierce resistance from the russians , several vehicles, apparently, were blown up by mines or hit by artillery fire from vehicles, what type are they burning? it is not yet clear to show why, against this background, the ukrainian general staff got into such an informational one, to whom there is just silence about what is happening at the front.

but the russian ministry of defense, on the contrary, has increased its information in addition to the briefings of general kanashenkov, to whom we are generally already accustomed almost on a daily basis , defense minister sergei shoigu also talks about what is happening at the front. according to him , ukrainian forces really made an attempt to break through us in the zaporozhye direction. and so the minister said that they had 1,500 people and 150 pieces of equipment involved. found primitive by shocks. and up to 350, such an unusual ukrainian silence, that is, just absolutely silence. let's wait, they usually

make a lot of noise when they go to fight against the civilians there. eh, some villages in the same bryansk or belgorod regions, remember how many they are there, right? then they shouted what kind of panic, by the way, they were trying to disperse here, that everything was already lost in belgorod, there, and so on and so forth. here now that we've gone yes, a little bit, ah, be quieter, so i want to pay attention. here is some kind of different such galosity in how they cover events or already, but what happened or what is happening right now. here we will someday return to them unconditionally, but there is the same difference in opinions and e events that are just ahead. here in a month. well, you already think that in a month nato itself will be in vilnius, and now they are very similar there. ah, interesting discussions have begun. and not even on the topic that here it is necessary to accept ukraine there or not. this , in principle, in general, everyone seems to understand that

they just don’t understand, when and how, but we didn’t just draw this uncle here today behind my back. this is the previous one. uh, general secretary and nata anders uh focrasmus. here he is, uh, from time to time , he somehow pops up to the surface with different, uh, interesting statements. so, on the eve of this donation, he made such a statement that it somehow stirred up everyone a little. if you say briefly, he hinted that the nato troops. now the details, let's say, may appear on the territory of ukraine, though. not everyone liked it. the funniest thing is that estonian prime minister kai kai, calla, responded the fastest, no. we didn't agree on that. now let's see the plot of all the details, we will find out, we will begin to discuss. the british newspaper the guardian got hold of information about what is being prepared for july. at the nato summit, the proposal to introduce the troops of the alliance into the territory of ukraine , we are talking about soldiers and countries of eastern europe in led by the poles

, such a plan is preparing in case kiev does not receive security guarantees from the allies by warming up this issue before the summit. now the ex-general secretary of nato is busy trying to figure out if nato does not agree on a clear path for ukraine , some countries are ready to take action on a case-by-case basis. i think the poles will seriously consider putting together a coalition of the willing if ukraine doesn't get anything vilnius we shouldn't underestimate the feeling of the poles the poles feel that western europe has not been heeded the warnings against russian intrigue, and some fateful nature. nato. gatherings are also fueled by the americans, the us ambassador to nato, julianna smith , said that several options have been worked out for themselves, which will show that the admission of ukraine to the alliance. c is in full swing . good question, exactly how we will fix membership in the kanika. we'll discuss. we have a few weeks ahead of us. alliance members have different opinions, ukrainians should know that we are interested in them, and putin should not

hope that we will lose interest in ukraine in on the air of american tv, a couple of the presenters began to argue as if the issues of entry had already been resolved in kind. the nato summit is coming up in july president biden is expected to arrive and ukraine's entry into nato well , possible entry into nato will be topic number one. after russia attacked us completely unprovoked and after the historic decisions of sweden, finland has come . everyone realize that we need to be members of nato to the same extent that nato needs ukraine we can bring a lot to nato we looking forward to this forum. however, stoltenberg, in a dialogue with a us representative, said that the issue of ukraine's membership has not been resolved. and in general, it is not a fact that these discussions make sense if kiev does not hold a landslide victory at the front. we unanimously decided that only ukraine and the members of the organization should decide when it is time to officially invite

ukraine to become a member of nato even and this does not depend on moscow and putin in any way he does not have the right century for expansion, fuck, there is agreement on another important issue . this war of ukraine and not putin because if ukraine ceases to exist as a sovereign, independent , democratic european state, then the discussion of its membership in nato will generally become meaningless. well, let's do it again. here are the words of it. uh, the secretary general has agreement on the issue of victory in the war of ukraine yes, and i remind you that the previous secretary general said that the poles might start a coalition there, he further explained that he means primarily the baltic states. why did the estonians immediately cry out that no. we have not agreed like this, not a single state that is part of the alliance is going to send its troops to ukraine , so andrey vladimirovich, this is your topic. you talked about this for a long time, because in the first version of the year the troops were ready back in

january of this year. it remains there are a few more options. why uh first option it wasn't. e because it was a necessity there was no need for this option. e. gel even when she worked, a special working group in the nato apartment developed according to the plan. she assumed that this the plan must be implemented in a critical situation. it’s not easy to say that, that is, when ukraine has ukrainian affairs. wait, now it was all built on, there were several options. and they now have three options, one option and more radical or less radical. yes, this is the middle one. the so-called middle option. it proceeds from the fact that according to the general rules, and existing in the nozzles. each country in the alliance has the right to its own actions, but not under the flag. everything didn't go up. just wondering how uh

moved forward. here is the creation of this cinnamon. did the poles really have any conversations with the balts or not? this was what was discussed. everything is already preliminarily handed over by the employees, but they are handing over back. that is, you understand, there we are talking about the condition yah and not about the fact that they refuse these conditions, if the conditions are about the formation of a coalition . uh, the whole question is very serious - this is about its material support, which should be carried out at the expense of nato funds as a whole. they are not at the expense of those countries that will participate inside nato but pays just already seen. uh, weapons will be the last questions. explain to me how this differs from the fact that we saw what ivan a few days ago showed you and commented on photographs of video frames, er, confirming that the polish mercenaries are already on the territory in

our territory of use, but this has nothing to do with mercenaries will be able to raise the official. if everything goes up your way, it’s a fact that you can sit on polish equipment more and proudly dissect it there, you don’t understand, but in in april, a corps of 10,000 servicemen was still formed. and where is he? yes, in poland . here they just can take part. and these are the mercenaries, i'm telling you, man's dude. let's go back to the first part of andriy vladimirovich's interpretation that there was already a variant of antonchik, which uh, should have been uh , embodied at the moment when ukraine would have had problems, but now, apparently, problems have arisen, but they are coming up with something else. so come on, i won't comment on what andrey vladimirovich says andrey vladimirovich reports to us what is in the minds of his friends. okay, he leads us on the right path leads then. moreover

, it will not be necessary to send when you showed the asmos to us. it seems to me that it would be correct not only to sign that he is the former secretary general of nato , but also an adviser. e petro poroshenko yeah. right now, poroshenko is obviously unofficial, when the president is obvious that he continues, respectively, how to work out an agenda that is beneficial specifically to zelensky to those forces that, respectively, are in ukraine, just this is this title immediately, but it shows well. and what are the benefits? where do they grow from? accordingly, this one, in fact, what he says, he is actually blackmailing nato with his statement . if you do not make a decision, then provide guarantees, then, then, some mythical countries are being led. so they themselves will make these decisions to speak at the request. kiev for your money for money, and moreover, look at me here. what a story, it is clear that at whose request and by what logic, but i think that in the west there are forces that

support such a position, they do not accept solutions. but they are trying to make this whole conflict escalate more and more, you see here, you know this person very well from them. i am if the person on earth didn't say anything, okay? do not know. no, it means, with all the evolution. i also want your attention. some very strange developments are taking place on the square, because, for example, biden said a very interesting thing the other day, which used to be officially a narrative. but it seems like the president didn’t say it like that with a coat. for some reason he started talk about again again. that is, there, apparently, there is some problem with the consolidation. what, but what do you think, like, what, but russia will end in ukraine, like, like, no, this will not happen. russia will go further, that is, again, this narrative raises, which was the whole last year. that is, such a second , because the level is no longer well, that is , you are not enough, you see, here in these statements, which are before the boarding itself

an attempt, it means escalation, but different stop seconds are simple. sergeevich pre-interview, as i understand it, you interpret these statements our minds on the opposite, that he is, as it were, a peacemaker, quietly, explain correctly, well, that's more like a person who calls for some kind of compromise and negotiations. he what he did is a warning. he says, that is, it's not blackmail. it’s blackmail that they need to come up with something that would calm the situation, that what would have the interests of ukraine and the account, respectively, the interests of russia, we say, if you don’t have russia, but come up with some rules that will suit ukraine accordingly, poland can lead troops and etc. third world war. what kind of rules can they come up with, that yes, it’s somehow, if you don’t come up with something to arrange ukraine then, ukraine then and after this movement, then there will be a great danger that the situation will be scanned. come up with something so that you don’t look for the situation, so that this solution suits both ukraine and,

accordingly, russia, because that’s the task. avoid the third world war, to avoid the third world war you need to edit into another person who sits anyway on the kiev salary, including this is how we mark, having noticed andrei vladimirovich, his old acquaintance will not utter a word. just like that, the word will not be pronounced without yes, without this , and in no way. just like that just like that, not money. it is an agreement the famous nato peacekeepers they always wanted to avoid the escalation of russia, please alexandrovich the story of the introduction of an international military contingent into the territory of ukraine is an old story that began to be discussed last year in august. uh, the first leak was from one of ex-generals. i don’t remember exactly hodges and dabbled, but in october-november, and the introduction to the international contingent under the leadership

of the united states. so this story is old and the schemes are also painted quite a long time ago. uh, one of the main schemes. uh, the introduction of this very international contingent not under the flag of nato , of course, yes, and there are such yes, there will be poland there, let’s say, perhaps there will also be romania this is the introduction, at the invitation of kiev, of the western southwestern odessa region, and the international military contingent and them there stop when we are very far away. uh-huh fight us. they are not going to, they are going to come in and say so here you are not fighting this and there further, and you and the ukrainians further analyzed the initiative of senior comrades in brussels, the united states, or is it polish and maybe baltic later. no, here's estonia's position, uh, it's the same old one. good anecdote. uh, the controversy on the eve of the wedding, which the bridesmaids poses. i, uh, could not choose which dress in any way? and he

doesn't want to get married at all. this is straight about this, that is, we, of course, are ready to go to war. only without us. here, that is, let's here, so how appropriate is this. wait to what extent this corresponds to the interest of ukraine. and then we can prove this one. wait with us. wait, we'll get back to you. speak to an agreement, wait a minute, i’m not just throwing things in, you’re telling us everything right, your nato troops are not needed. you are technicians, right? yte, and we are talking here somehow, you can handle it on the left. until the end of the armed conflict on the territory of ukraine , foreign states will not introduce their troops on the territory of our country, moreover, we do not ask for this, we say, give us weapons, we ourselves know how to fight, but i want everyone to understand when we become a member of nato when

there will be no war, because membership in nato cannot end this war. it will lead to new warriors. but, when we join nato, our brigades will stand in the countries nearby and will protect them . this is in general. is not his business at all. he's working on another agenda. uh, hmm, these international forces may appear at the invitation of official kiev , not a kuleba. he is not officially no, no no, that this is zelensky's track and the track is sausage. one of the options here is an option, the second, which has also been discussed for a long time. this is poland alone. e takes part. uh, as if in this conflict, but if it is so under its own national flag, but if so, then how would poland not be on the windowsill. and this will not be the beginning of the third world

more nafig no one in the west did not give up. i beg you, no one will fight for poland. just poland will not. or rather, she will remember, i recall the words of stalin's objection to churchill that he, says lvov, has never been a russian city, they write that the baltic countries are for them, and you are when you were described to the baltic countries yes yes, yes, yes, yes it’s not like that works. how it works. we have already heard many times different experts. including last year that there will be no ukraine and no ukrainian state no more, everything will be. well, actually, in the end, nothing will happen. victor railway, yes, you know let's hope that this end will not come soon. this means, especially for us, it means, uh, as regards, and the problems and issues of nato are three different directions, as for nato's interest in participating in this conflict, there is no

nato that is not interested in participating in this conflict, does not want this, and since he is directly about it said that while the conflict continues , nato is not interested in participating in it, does not , for obvious reasons, do not want direct conflict with russia, the potential for a nuclear conflict. this is the second option. well, yes, the second option, but the option about which alexander yuryevich spoke that some nato countries are larger, romania, slovakia, perhaps, some others will enter some territory of ukraine , for example, the odessa region is somewhere else and they will stop there and supposedly will not accept participation in direct conflict with the russian army. and it will just stand there to protect this territory. on saturday this war, it does not work like that at all , and inata is not interested in this. why? because you know, all this has already happened in yugoslavia. the fact is that somehow it will work as soon as any foreign contingent appears there, provocation strikes and so on. this will begin literally immediately , the escalation of the degradation of the situation, and then these

armed forces of these countries will automatically be drawn into the conflict, and then it will lead to the same escalation. it's so easy for nato to say if you think that you will visit romania again, and brussels and the americans will be able to just talk like that for a very long time. you know we have nothing to do with it, it's polish allies. it's romanian they won't speak. we have nothing to do with it, he says, well done poles. let's have more tanks for you. come on. and you always wear some third one well. uh, another option is to say that russia regularly inflicts rocket bombing other strikes on children and others. imagine, there some foreign contingent killed polish romanian soldiers, some other people are forced to react to this. we must start. it's not easy, they need to understand. the prospects of the flag there don't shoot, but the option, which, which in fact, this option is being discussed , really introducing the introduction of western

troops, the troops of the country are not under control. nato separately, and as part of a guarantee of security for ukraine as a result of agreements with russia that is, if there is this conflict, like any conflict. we must give guarantees to end with a guarantee that ukraine will grow and the west will give guarantees of security to ukraine along those borders. or those lines that will be drawn and then they will look like this is what is being discussed. you said that russia should agree to this that's if the vegetation will continue the conflict. what that it could be for the proposal to which we will agree about it. this means that the counteroffensive is just beginning. how long will it last? what results it will bring, and then we will make of it in the future. yes? these are perspectives. yes, we will definitely show you this with well , let's acquaint you with the statement of the ukrainian minister of defense, this reznikov, who

just says that there is also something about a certain zone of possible agreements. and this opportunity will appear so, yes, and in the case when if russia is there, i think he says reconsider , uh, goals. uh-huh uh, special energy is the same. i said let's not. yes, someone else told me from here too. come on, everything is somehow like that, but we will not put it on the same board with this asshole. okay, let's in this reznikov, in fact, was also said. it’s just that it was said very simply, if you are talking about mediation or facilitation, then the rules of any mediator, the settlers of the mediator, are first to fix the identification of the interests of the parties, and the interests of the russians were voiced in this way called svo. this is denazification, demilitarization, de nato zation, that is, in essence. wipe the ukrainian nation off the face of the earth, because supposedly from their point of view we do not exist, as i say. you first identify the interests of the russians,

whether it has changed for them, if it has changed, then the so -called zoo zone, perhaps the agreement becomes clear. a. if not, then stay in line, we will somehow figure it out without you. let him leave first. so let alexander alexandrovich listen. well, i have a bad forecast. let's see that in parallel there are bridesmaids for the new general secretary. nato is given that there will still be ben wallace quite right , a man who even now does not hide. e your willingness to maximize, so to speak, yes, er the level of tension. this is the first time we are special ops, do you agree? well, they will find a uniform in the kherson region in the part that the name is occupied in zaporizhia , to introduce some of these battalions there , they just, uh, it means that they have taken a small step and are watching how we react. eh, and then they don't it’s a pity, but not the poles, not the baltic states. they will substitute them, uh, under our blows and will

look like they don’t want to kiss. wait, wait. you ask how you exchanged viktor zhevich, wait. i'm here as a scout. how did you exchange remarks. and when , in my opinion, whoever spoke alexey was there, and you had a general opinion that nato thinks that if they put their troops there, we stopped. yes, they think so. the same, kherson on the site. in short, he can have a polish battalion there, yes , some kind of polish romanian flags will be widely deployed, moreover a huge nato flag so that the american row and the american ones could develop there and they put it and are watching. here, whether we will hit right there or not, according to the constitution, this is our territory, which means that i know an illusion, they will act based on this illusion in wait, alexander yuryevich, the forecast is bad. i’m trying to wait for this. alexander agrees what will happen, olya and the secretary general will put up a battalion, put up flags and watch, and then

it will happen, that is, this expression, which i hate so popularly, that we are not like them and i take advantage of the opportunity. here is anton i want to recall last year. here we were sitting. here i then came from our kherson and said that they iron khaimar themselves. i said that people are waiting for us to polish nikolaev. anton said. yes, we are not like that you let me then get out on the internet, like in this zadorozhny or some kind of freak there, but to us who don’t go, but there he began to write on social networks, look, what we are discussing is not like them we did not polish nikolaev. and that's what we see shebekino show. yes, they are destroying novaya kakhovka, she now has employees, so magician beat on violence in movies. in general, all these cities were understandable to me everywhere, including shebekino now. here already there such rates. soon shebekina won't be walking around, but we won't hit kharkov either, because we're not them, we have a white coat, white gloves.

wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, come on, i was that aggressor yesterday. there will be temperature today. here it flies well. that is, you want to say that we are in this situation, when they put up a battalion there and unfurl flags, we will wake up and will not do anything to hit him quietly, quietly, quietly, quietly, quietly will not beat, yes, can you tell me why? tell me how. that's because, because we understand perfectly well what a blow will bring itself. wait now, let's go to those who are not sorry, but here colleague fedorov says, and we, even those who do not feel sorry for destroying nicholas , will be free, yes, what do people who live in ruins in our cities new and old ask a question. where is the answer, so let's go. at first i remember our dialogue, then it concerned

a dispute. is it necessary to destroy an entire large city in order to achieve all the goals that put within the framework of people believe people do not . i listened in silence, now i will answer, if possible, sasha, because it is fundamentally now that i am accused that i am here, as it were, something here, uh, these are white gloves. and now we are suffering. don't turn it around like that, please. so the first destruction of an entire city within the framework of these things - this is disgusting from anti-human. this is a war crime and glory and once again and glory to god means once again the citizenship of the population of a large city. this is what it is. so all this talk about the fact that we are wearing white gloves, sash, then it turns out that you just said that our president is so bad in white gloves and everything else. you don't understand something. i asked the question because the framework we launched a special military operation to fight the evil, then the special military is your

vision. e situations. this is where you need to fight. wait, you need to fight, here are two alexander alexandrovich alexandrovich who agrees , this option puts nato under no matter. under what flag in kherson do these same units unfurl flags there what we are doing, i remind you once again, this is our territory, the first one that victor spoke about and about the scenario that drift wrote about. dmitry anatolyevich, that part of it is leaving, it means that it is under the control of the european union. well, once again, according to the constitution of our territory , it doesn’t seem to you that this is an option. you are one option here, there are no options if we are talking about the western territories. this is one thing , if this is kherson, then it is obvious that everything, everything, everything, everything will definitely stop for a while, then we will not have time to discuss anything of the second part.

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this part. let's start with the decision of the dutch supreme court which decided to hand over the collection of scythian gold from crimea, arrested in this country , to the authorities of ukraine. the legal dispute has dragged on since 2014, when the peninsula was reunited with russia in the netherlands at that time about 2,000 exhibits from four crimean museums were stuck. after that, the kiev authorities claimed their rights to the scythian gold and demanded that it be returned to ukraine. since then, there have been several lawsuits and appeals have been filed. now it is declared that the decision of the dutch supreme court is final and not subject to appeal. and now let's get to the news in our country. uh, from the omsk region , fsb officers detained an employee of the military-industrial complex there, he is suspected of espionage. germany, according to the fsb, the suspect himself got in touch with the german country and offered to transfer valuable information about the military facilities of the

russian ministry of defense in exchange. he wanted to obtain german citizenship against a man opened a criminal case under the article on the state. treason , the maximum penalty for her is life imprisonment. the day before at moscow has detained three suspected collaborators with a ukrainian terrorist cell at our disposal. here are the footage of operational shooting, judging by the video that you will see now, the suspects were not at all ready for the arrival of law enforcement officers during the search, they found leaflets with nazi symbols, drugs, firearms, and even medals and ordinates of the third reich , it is noteworthy that the leader of the terrorist cell turned out to be dmitry volkhov is the winner of the 13th season of the battle of psychics program there he is we were preparing to go to ukraine to join a group of saboteurs in irkutsk, the special services detained three saboteurs who set fire to

a transformer substation, the accused admitted that they were pushed to commit sabotage by curators from telegram and, uh, asked originally not as a sabotage, but a quote is needed, uh, set fire to the equipment that has become unusable to the last saboteur, as they say. it was as if they did not understand that the law was in effect. uh, footage of the interrogation of the spy mikhail mikhailenko detained in the donetsk people's republic also appeared ; since the fourteenth year, mikhailenko has served in the people's militia. dpr rose to

the rank of lieutenant colonel, then he was detained by the sbu in a case related to his ukrainian business. well, work for ukrainian intelligence. he became according to the news in exchange to help close his criminal case. don't be fooled, but sweet promises. do not settle for the sweet promises of foreign intelligence services. you are on their verbulka. don't do what you did. i deeply and strongly repent and ask for forgiveness to the whole society. forgive me for my mean act. a bunch of how it went from the special services. here is the tightness. in fact, it is presented by the western media in a slightly different way. ah. well, here they are, well, everything for the citizens of russia to show these failed saboteurs, in fact, means to transfer or where do they come from. well, yes, there is

money for someone, but this man, like an adult, there was a juvenile fool in front of him. in general, western. media - this is presented as the result of a great work of creation. here we have some kind of grandiose underground, where people from young to old gather, who, it means, intend to shake the regime. let's see already. the american bloomberg agency is dispersing the fake asked by the defeatists in the political and business circles of russia allegedly. already 7 sources. some members of our elite told the publication that they doubt success side and does not see a bright future from it if the special military operation is not stopped right now. well, or as a last resort, do not freeze the conflict. the elite are stumped and afraid of becoming scapegoats for a senseless war, growing discouragement is likely to intensify the shifting of responsibility for the uncertain invasion , russian officials do not expect significant success. even those who

support the invasion and the fight against ukraine have become disillusioned with the prospects for russia , cnn has thrown in a fake, some mysterious, underground. they say it includes russians sympathetic to the kiev regime preparing sabotage with the help of drones that are assembled from spare parts smuggled from ukraine, an anonymous source in american intelligence told reporters about all this. about ukrainian sympathizers of the drone attack have become much more daring and intelligence believes that they are also behind them about ukrainian partizans who work for ukrainians and strike russia from within british times. also, with reference to mythical sources, he writes that behind sabotage there is an unprincipled russian youth, they say, the ukrainian special services are recruiting saboteurs from ads on the internet because of a small fee to go. mercenaries are ready to set fire to military registration and enlistment offices and derail trains, without having

an extensive intelligence network in the rear. enemy. ukrainian intelligence has turned to unexpected new forms of recruitment for russian teenagers who claim they don't know who pays them for sabotage and are recruited through social media to set fire to railway junction boxes for money. a alexey sergeevich is here when he looked through the comments in our telegram channel. in general , in our viewers. eh, how so persuasion? that you snitch was cardboard, it was somehow reinforced. here, well, for some reason i don’t like part of ours. well, no, that’s how you would comment on all these publications, because, well, of course, to deny what is. uh, there is something like that in society. here is the consciousness that all sorts of traitors are sitting somewhere, but it really exists. it is, in general, not a secret for someone. well, definitely. uh, crime against the qualifying order of the qualifying order must intersect in a decisive way and the fight against people who set fire to throw

molotov cocktails must only be supported, but we have another problem. yes, here is the report. uh, a bloomberg report. we called fake, but fake in russian in general, yes, we don’t like foreign words fake here. we call it deliberately false information. uh, obviously false information. we need. ah, how to compensate with advice and reliable since we don’t have it. however, we see that there are some leaks of private conversations. uh, a state duma deputy speaks from a rather high rostrum and expresses doubts about how everything is going. it seems to me that ukrainian terrorists could not carry out terrorist attacks on our territory, which a feels restless, we must wage a merciless fight against terror, but allow people. like asking questions. there are people, for example, pacifists, who believe that the ne must be stopped, at any cost. yes, they say, we are ready to give up something there. let them speak and be heard. we do not agree with them. we believe, that this cannot be done. but when you don’t let people talk, the ukrainian

comrades of the cia come to them, release videos and say, they don’t listen to you. and we will listen to you and such idiots and morons appear who are ready to set fire to kill throw a cocktail appear, and you need to fight terrorists in a radical way, and in order not to create this, and the bieber fertile field, you need to talk with idiots and morons in their language, it turns out like this idiots. you're a moron, don't take it, it's 8,000. fuck knows, who did not go to set fire to. uh, or it said yes if the person is respectful and rather intelligibly explain. talk to him. and what do you doubt, and now we're fine you now we're discrediting you man is going to go and break the contraption that, uh, ensures the safety of the train. yes, it doesn't matter at all. this cannot be done. it is a crime. so, he really goes and is a moron, that is , a potential terrorist should be patted on

the head to understand this, wait, wait , please don’t go. i will explain what i want to say. oh at me please commenting on me here i say, friends , let's. i will express my own thoughts. we must not let enemy intelligence, take our youth and israel the idea of ​​terror, so as not to do this, but take care of the youth . we ourselves must listen to explain and educate, then there will be fewer terrorists and less opportunities for western intelligence to conduct subversive activities in our country. everything is barrels. until the end of the program. agreed. well done here is quiet wait now. he's everything you screw, my words, i'm twisted, but i don't twist them, and i’m trying to understand what you are carrying, that’s why i’m telling you that you somehow gathered in the final, and before that, alexey sergeevich, the thought was honest to you, let’s say it’s so smeared, perceived by us, since it was brought up, trying, the last test was wonderful, that we no need to give your youth into the clutches, then, uh, that's right. and how does it mean

to explain and, accordingly, to give to speak here, with regard to explain, i completely agree with my hands because we need to explain, they emotionalize anything. why what? why? i'm in a general sense, but this word, for them to say criminal things, it ’s just the same to work on the western intelligence services, which have long processed them, who sets fire to us and all these religions. there are two categories. this is the first audience. they are just outcasts and criminals. and this judge us confirmation was. these are just people who were paid money, they are without any psychology. yes, they must understand that they are paid money. yes, sometimes we do. well, sometimes it’s just that the punishment should be severe and severe, if you knew this guy that he would be shot for this, he would show it live broadcast and 150 country knew the killer and the terrorists. which we will offer 8.000, then

you say, the dude was shot, then he will think about the money, we don’t have wartime. so friends you let me finish, please. the first moment means the punishment for this offense. rather, it is a crime. it's a huge huge term it's not about that at all in countries where there is the death penalty. it would seem that there should not be a single crime. they work differently, the second part, then it is set on fire, this is already agents, which for a long time uh, in russia it’s a form - it’s all sorts of bulky khodorkovsky and others and so on, wait a second they say, and then it turns out then that some really write what we have there. no, not really, not really. and why? what for? they are writing this, it’s not true that there is a political technology project that is aimed at presenting that there is

a big underground in russia, that there is a huge mass of people who are dissatisfied and now they took their hands, and this weapon in their hands is another reason. and this full tracing paper. in fact, the so-called vlasov in fact. the same. remember vlasov’s appeal, we are at war, once again it’s out of the rally regime to call in russia yes , that is, one of the reasons he correctly said, another reason they don’t want to cause a wave of spy mania in russia, you understand people who can be nothing terrible dear gentlemen. now , if aleksey sergeevich naumov didn’t steal shavings from me with his preparation. we would have all the time. short pause, we will continue. that's why they didn't get there. so that the tummy does not hurt

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the faint of heart at all. so it all happened on the 8th of june. e in hurghada on the beach near the dream beach hotel on footage it can be seen as in a deserted area in the sea. a shark's fin first appears near the young man, then she is already trying to drag the man to the depths. he, in turn, tries to stay on the surface. later , red circles appear around him on the video , screams are heard, dad, and only when it is clear that the man can no longer be helped. the video is already showing a boat with rescuers who are clearly in no hurry by the time they appear. help, the young man was already dead now he is finishing his meal, there she throws his remains after an emergency. all beaches in the resort town.

hurghada was closed according to the ministry of the environment of egypt, this shark this video was able to catch uh, is there a shark or not there, but nevertheless this one will be sent for research to understand what caused its abnormal behavior the only incident in egypt after the start of the tourist season. so at the end of may all these shots appeared, where the captain runs groaning yachts with tourists happened this is also not far from hurghada on board a forty-two-meter vessel. there were about thirty people at the time of the incident, the rescue fetus did not work , the signal torch did not light up. yes, saved as a result, a yacht passing by. the tragedies with the attack in hurghada did not miss the opportunity to go deeper. who will mock in the ukrainian segment in social networks, there has already appeared such a whole hodgepodge, as they call it memes? well, let's take a look at a few, which means that he has become a separate hero of jokes. eh, hmm hero, the head of intelligence of ukraine, kirill budanov

, we can look at this, and he was offered to reward the shark for eliminating it. eh, russian. yes, here it is. well, and there he is in a shark suit. actually, too, with some kind of even comment about a person who works. under cover, people's deputy of ukraine roman grischuk is convinced that the situation with the shark and the russian is ambiguous. he suggested that the russian himself could say a shark. in general, he called on the world media to take into account the positions of all parties. here is such a beautiful and certainly witty ukrainian deputies, when we lived with these people in the same country. here. i actually wanted to translate to the topic of this. we have another working week shortened, because june 12, monday , is a day off this year. uh, the holiday is the day of russia and we would like to talk about it a little to remember. let's do this right now and let's start how this holiday appeared, whether it is a holiday at all, because everything is very complicated there, as it were. and all. it

was formalized and accordingly complex relationship. eh, ambiguous far. eh, for this holiday and now saved, many simply do not understand. what is this day. let's see, the very first story, june 12 , a date with a twisted fate, this day became the ninety-second holiday under yeltsin, and the weekend was appointed in the ninety-first still under gorbachev. and despite the fact that we are actually celebrating the adoption of the declaration on state sovereignty of the ussr, this is generally an event of the ninetieth year, that is, in fact. the first holiday of the break with the communist the past, great russia is rising from its knees. we will definitely turn it into a prosperous democratic peace-loving legal and sovereign state. although they in the ninety-first unfit later, people definitely had no time for the holidays in the country, the most severe problems

with food in the entire post-war history in the queue, even for bread , the west sends stew and porridge to the ussr and then to russia, fearing that without humanitarian aid, the country will face a head this box. and the soldier, as it is already possible to go down further, sends, apparently, the same packets are sent somewhere. zambezi in ethiopia in stores was nothing terrible, because that's where the most important thing was. we did not guess with the timber export tariff, for example, we stopped the entire ex-under lesnaya of the soviet union at the same time citizens learn the meaning of the word inflation, in the ninety-first it should reach 160%, a year later 2.500%. from the accumulation of us in books, only numbers remain, for which nothing can be bought, in order to somehow allow the population to feed themselves, the authorities in the early nineties allowed free trade and yesterday's workers and

shame go to trade in the subway and bus stops. so i retired as a senior engineer. uh, i worked for 40 years and i’m standing here, i would like the world to be naive in the fall, live on these 320 to see how she lies, that she goes shopping buys cutlets and all that and feeds boris yeltsin with these cutlets in addition to economic there is a shock much more fundamental collapse of the ussr instead of the soviet flag over the kremlin. now the raid is russian tricolor, but this does not reduce, but rather increases the degree international conflicts. in 1992 alone, an armed net against ingush clashes over a disputed area claimed the lives of hundreds of people. now the transnistrian conflict is flaring up in foreign moldavia. it is barely able to be extinguished by the forces of russian peacekeepers,

it is blazing and in abkhazia, those demanding independence and independence from georgia are already on the move. full-fledged military operations in general, the atmosphere in russia is clearly not festive. oh, and let's not forget that in russia the capital is also directly tanks, so this is andrey lenivich traveled, because our regular viewers know that these photographs with tanks there on one of them you , we found you. so, tell me, please, what meaning did you put then on this, as it were, day and now is it still a holiday for you or what? frankly, for me it has never been a holiday. uh, like holidays exactly like a holiday, so, uh, the problem is that it is always 991 and the country and many people, including me in many ways, we lived

with illusions and illusions that the country can change quickly there in 500 days or less, and other people, people had the illusion that if there was no cpsu, then everything would be fine and there would be gorbachev, which means there would be full stores and so on. here is an illusion. she lasted quite a long time. i think it's possible one and a half after the first. but then, uh, of course. well, first of all, there was no internet yet. we must also remember this. here, uh, then uh, of course, there was some kind of certain thing in moscow, again , also emotional upsurge in moscow, you drive 100 km from moscow everything is quiet in general it is not because of what is going on there and so on and so forth. eh, i see the main result in the fact that , unfortunately, unfortunately, the change in the system of power in russia happened only in the way it could happen in another. it's just time for responsibly now june 12th. you, too, like a holiday, probably, and then let's note,

because, firstly, it was not a long time ago. and secondly, there was such a passage there will be no communists. i want to thank you for the water video that was presented in many ways it resembles the dramatic situation of the nineties, this topic can be expanded and continued. well, of course. the national memory of russia of other peoples of the soviet union 90 will remain as a very difficult period and the beginning of the nineties, all the more, and therefore, when the new government. e, trying to form some new symbols, and associated with its approval imposed this holiday in this country, they say that since it russia gained independence, of course, the vast majority of citizens could not accept this day could not accept this holiday and everything is fair, yes, depending on what from the soviet union, so these citizens themselves came to the referendum in

the ninety-first year. i am now asking you another. how are you? uh, one of the brightest things to come to the communist party faction is a brilliant ability to answer unasked questions. i'm telling you something else. here andrey vladimirovich said there was some kind of illusion, there would be no communists. and we will finally live. i've been wondering when a person, well yes, here i want to explain. why then the process? after all , i remember very well when you arrive and says that we all now ban the communist party there, why then it still was not brought to an end, as in the same ukraine , for example, the first for the purity of assessments. i cannot say that these were illusions that the whole country lived by. i was a student when there were the first elections of the president of russia in my course, only four people voted for yeltsin, the rest for ryzhkov that is, no one , even in the youth environment, absolutely the majority understood that with the name of these people who claim to be some kind of innovation on guilt on freedom on democracy on

human rights. nothing related to this will everyone saw this mug, and she was a symbol of the so- called democratic. in general, okay, there weren’t any particular illusions . alexander nikolayevich tells us that he had a little bit of an illusion in the early nineties, or i don’t remember alexander nikolayevich correctly, then it turned out to be illusions. i realized a little later though. and what did you expect? i'm just, honestly, wasn't it a holiday for you after all, well, about holiday is quite difficult, because in general, i’m somehow not very inclined to holidays , in principle, but the fact is that for me the most important and principled step, and by which i evaluate everything is the attitude towards communism, socialism and the communist party with this. we were bound by illusion. that is, i hoped that communism was over. and what do you mean exactly communism? it's impossible. why is it impossible? well, that's impossible. why is it impossible that this

is called communit, now the most conveying the ideology of peace is always under all circumstances. i take this position, first of all, anti-limo and anti-communist, and everything that happens is evaluated from this point of view. so four i agree with andrey vladimirovich, what did he say? this is so, and here it is, i want to add. that, in fact, starting from the moment of gaidar’s resignation, and i’ll say all this, it crawled so much, that is, yeltsin could not , due to his conviction or due to the fact that some people came to him and began to explain something to him, he could not bring uh until the end of the murder decommunization, but not uh liberalization, that is, there was nothing. finished result we saw. first try was at 93. here. well, those, thank god

, were put in their place, driven into the cost. here it is from the 2000s. eh, these people, relatively speaking, 93 people began to slowly wake up and now we have the state project, which we could well have 93, but which was urgent. so is it good from your point of view or bad that it was delayed, that it was delayed - that's good. and what do we have is a state project? it's bad so then i vodka, please. it seems to me that we are now very carried away by the ideological component, and then i agree that probably, yes, this is moscow. here it seethed in some kind of its own. yes , but the people who just lived, uh, had other concerns. here is a very correct story with this woman, yes, about the meatballs that they say, just don’t think that this is some kind of sexist approach, but still, if on the other hand, here’s some kind of household take. was there anything to celebrate? you know,

i don't agree with you that this has not been achieved. the result, the result was, but with it everything was destroyed. and here, for example, at that moment my child is 2 years old, the situation is exactly the same , and you know, now we are analyzing it. but then we just all went to do business, because there was nothing else. everything was closed. so it's great great super, when, in contrast, there is to feed the child, when it collapses in no way, please, and you know the imposed business of business activity, this is generally a catastrophic story for thousands of millions of people who were not born at all to be entrepreneurs. this is also a talent and ability that you need to have, but then

everyone traded. what is this? so i just wanted to ask, it was such a business, right? in another e here e! practical life that no one really thought about the holidays there. it was necessary to survive, to feed, to teach children to dress, and so on. and when the economy was brought down on purpose, it was your unique general managers who came into power, you understand? i can argue about communist in power, but on the economy did not work. he he is elsewhere, but the ideology of pressure i'm just fine then. it's just that then, as far as how to say at all, is it right, or something, it is advisable, then now to preserve this holiday, if

it has some kind of strange one in the nineties, when it arose, we treat it with a certain angle. and in general, you didn’t agree with something in order to assess what happened, you need to take the report of the world bank, which estimated the nineties, uh, at losses commensurate with russia’s losses in the civil war of 13 million people. man, not me or communists, but just here is a world bank of 13 million people and people who say that this is acceptable. well, let the viewers evaluate their moral stories once, twice. could it be otherwise? most likely , i agree here. i couldn't, because the country was completely rotten and there was no elu-iz and in addition, and the horizons of the social ideas of the top were even lower. uh,

that means, uh, i'm sorry, history courses, the cpsu were people, as if after that they did not understand anything. i can give an example were in the ninetieth year there were already such debates uh with tatyana ivana zaslavskaya hmm my favorite. eh, teachers and so on, as i said tatyana ivanovna milinka. well, it is impossible in this way of transformation, because they occur according to other laws, to which i heard. here sergeevich, you do not believe in the revolutionary transforming power of the russian people. i said, yes, i do not believe, because no, because it does not determine these factors, and when they say that yeltsin could not, because he has a repressive apparatus that could drive a third of russia in the camps that does not i could not stand what was happening there, and there was no other way to continue decommunization

, to continue what my friends were doing. youths are just half the government. gaidar, those with whom i worked together know very well, which means it was impossible. yeltsin succumbed to unthinkable political pressure from below, in general, he chose either a civil war, or gradually, and then wait then. we are back to ideology again. and why was it necessary in such conditions to invent some kind of public holiday. listen, well clearly, there, perhaps, someone wanted to fight the communists. let's cancel the seventh of november, but it's the seventh of november. yes , why was it something of a flyer? this is a projection, by the way, of the fate of russia at first. initially it was a celebration of victory, anti-communists over the communist exactly so this is originally, then the time came. and this is me, after all, a participant in the study of the vciom. ah, then

somewhere around 90 after 1998. the trend towards an attempt to build the unity of the country was clearly defined and a symbol of the communists was needed already the red banner and the return of the soviet union were already seen as impossible. well , it's just impossible in all countries. i just, and at the same time, uh, a number of factors worked to ensure that the tricolor became a symbol of unification, they began to interpret it, they began to interpret it differently, as a factor in the historical continuity of russia, what was torn off from peter? petra until today, yes there have been different stories. uh, the imperial flag was a red flag. unites today. this is what people really thought, and today it is already a holiday. when asked

will you be for you this is a holiday, yes a holiday, and i just want literally a second and the most important factor in the fact that this has become a symbol of rallying. you will be surprised to see the performance of the russian anthem and the raising of the russian flag in football matches. before every football match, when thousands of people sing the russian anthem together, millions more see it on tv. it was a much more ideological time already. it's just epic fixed to the top. uh, sergeevich wanted to return the phrase from the very beginning. it was the victory day of the anti-communists. necessary communists mikhail borisovich then. buni ask you, it turns out that you will not suspect him. you know, then you had to celebrate, yes, the events came down and laid bare. uh, then even more leningrad but according to the sensations. it was already peter, i turned away from the soviet army and all these events and all

my surroundings were perceived in a completely different way. and we basically went through the middle strata so intelligently. i am from engineers, my friends are from some other such intelligent professions. and honestly saying that the previous communists that the new democrats were perceived as a complete birth. here, mostly st. petersburg residents survived and survived terribly there, i bombed at night. my mother sobbed, the only optimist in our family was my grandmother, who went through two revolutions , a civil war, a finnish blockade, and a huge number of all sorts of experiments that were carried out in our country. she says, my relatives already have cards, which means that there is something, we will already receive something, - she says, when the cards are entered, it means that something like that already more or less they will give us, so we went to change the vodka we didn’t need for condensed milk and everything else, these are the joys, we all

experienced it, therefore, when my neighbor says that yeltsin is some kind of murvo there , it means, uh, somewhere appeared from somewhere. i remember very well where he came from, he came from the same communist party, in fact, he was the founder of the communist party in your regional committee. . here they were communists. the problem is that this is a myth that some anti-communists overthrew some communists. this is some kind of wait, then listen to the phrase anti-communists, they defeated the communists. this does not mean that it was you who defeated them, but

since you did not like the communists, to put it mildly. so this is your holiday, yes, because they made it for you. something good was taken away from someone. here let's do it. already in these years i have suffered, i have never gone hobbies not by communist ideas, not by liberals. somehow, thank god, that's why i didn't take everything. it's like here's a mishanin inside those who want to privatize the country and those who hold on have already watched the party, as if not with horror. unfortunately. if i could just watch it would be a great grandma living. in this joy. so short for one ivan sergeevich is still only. didn't live at that time. you have already lived for the seventh year. excuse me, please, short pepper. in my opinion, he says

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this. and no, sometimes they romanticize. well let's, for example, too. well, yes, yes, the most fertile for transferring viewers to the nineties themes. this, of course, is a crime, and it is understandable, the arrows on wastelands with reinforcement wall to wall are mercilessly shaved. guys in tracksuits are bound to fight somewhere behind high-rise buildings or right in the market, and this is both spectacular and atmospheric. and which of these films is about the era, and here are the creators of the film a bull that thundered on one of the last cinemataurs, as if asking the viewer. and was it possible to remain human in the midst of all this? the answer is not obvious. other movies figures consciously play with the nostalgia of the current thirty and forty-year-olds for childhood, when her lollipop was sugarier and the music is such that tuna-tuna is great, like the main treasure, but the most tempting here is,

for example, in the movie dad to see that world. how did our parents feel about it? and whether to cry, or fall asleep, i don’t want to know. do you think i taste good? who is there, and i drink and do not suffer. but if you think that on the theme of the 90s in the cinema, we now only philosophize. no matter how. here, for example, a comedy series fun and loud everyone sings, aspiring musicians make a career, and the epoch does not look very toothy and devoured by offal, and tetris is what a cheerful and not terrible crime. khan will see me. yes, like nothing vital is not hurt jacket jacket. she bought her mother for me and this frivolity is quite in demand with another similar one. according to the mood of the world

of friendship series, the chewing gum went into the refrigerator for three whole seasons. stop freezer. ah, like, like elena nikolaevna, you are now somehow trying to rethink the nineties, because because of what you just told before the first previous part, there was a feeling of some kind of direct tension and almost collapse, you are forced to save there to feed the child, and so on, on the other hand. this is the time to start your business. you must be successful. that is, maybe you are somehow badly erased, some romantic fleur remains . well, what, uh, the elder will stop. here she could. i think i need to say thank you, yes, here i would never go into entrepreneurship in business. in general, i

had finished my musical education, there was a music school, and so on, the fate was different, but i achieved everything i wanted to earn money for myself there. i have everything, but misfortune helped, but here the situation is different. you see, when we look at everything, there was one terrible process that, for example, most of all, depresses me, this degradation that began in the nineties. after all, we had the most reading, self-educated. we had ideals. in any case. it's very hard to lead people up and so on. that's how they began to pour down there very quickly in the nineties. it's very easy to fly down to be. here are such freaks. all of a sudden, these businesses went there. yes, this is where this flywheel began to spin up, someone alone went to someone else. easy money went to others, because indeed some tried to earn money, others tried to take away what was earned.

you and i know that the state, as such , eliminated all these disassemblies there. we have all gone through them. and this one, as if from one on the other hand, you survived, tempered so cool, generally coped with everything on the other hand. you understand that there are only a few. why did you tell us before the interview? that then it was like, uh, to work here to earn, well, it's easier. and now here are all sorts of taxes there orders. this is the only one robbed with geese. you can do as you wish. yes, the state is gone. yes, you had freedom, in fact, and whoever could, someone turned around, earned money, whoever could did not touch us at all from the word at all, we were no one needed people. but you have achieved your goal, so you can celebrate june 12, as a holiday, because here you are this opportunity of yours, like this one with the chance that you have realized it. no. i said that

what depresses me the most is that this is a period of destruction and degradation. well, of course, i absolutely agree that this is still a deep civilizational degradation, when, uh , many familiar moral norms collapsed. they were observed only among their own. it's just that sociologists see, and the slogan was walking back loans, but only a coward. can you imagine an economy that lives like this manner. well, at the same time, russian citizens consider the twelfth of july today their holiday, because this is the day that explains unity in your eyes. that's just asking. here's what it means to them. this unity of russian history is the unity of the russian people. yes explain to us why we are now reflecting so much on the nineties, because at

some point i just remember on tv for children and youth. it was perceived as the time of freedom, then abruptly somehow changed to the dashing nineties and such perception, and now it feels like the pendulum is swinging back towards romanticization. why are we rethinking this all over again, and the first thing you are right. and what, well, like two pendulums, one pendulum, when the moral crisis of the nineties begins to be sharply perceived, and in russia , morality is very significant, moral experiences and so on, and therefore the nineties are perceived as simple, and a black hole, and the other side for those who you lived it to me, who did not always experience it. well, see me for six eighth year, there paris is a kingdom, unthinkable freedom today requires that the laws be respected. and it was a time when

everyone established laws for himself, but i’ll ask right away, and we will look at the nineties in 50-40 years the same way we look at the paris sixty-eighth. oh, what a glorious time it would be, look students, so we will be, i hope not, because now they look like 68 years on my parisian a as not a source of civilizational collapse. west like this for a second serious researchers. they are publicists. there. you are now we are talking the eighth romanticizes. only in this way, at least from the point of view of serious researchers. who understands how the social representative works. that is, now everything is the french new wave. no, wait a second, only there is a sewer collapse and the rest of them there. excuse me, in the conditions of absolute moralization and italian

life during the renaissance, the greatest works were written, despite the fact that all morality at that moment was worthless and was considered as the unthinkable experienced. what we are talking about is how the borgia family demonstrates. let's go without venetian. if we make it, we can only make it. yes , minutes about reflection and romanticization. at what moment we will start looking at the nineties, i don’t know the pendulum. it will get to some middle ground, or we will have all the time, or dashing crime and so on, or something like freedom, business and all that. well, i suspect that these are different social strata, but when the social strata leave, those who survived it, otherwise it will probably be easy. due to propaganda and artistic creativity, but what needs to be said here, here here suddenly it was outlined in the sixty-

eighth year. common platform. it was in any case an explosion of popular energy. here is some of the people. yes, he had no explosion of energy. he turned into what he turned into, but the fact that it was an energy upsurge, which today is not at all a fact. and those who experienced it, and those who felt it and live now, of course, they compare it in favor. let's talk about energy ups. we ask you now in the next part, we will show you. uh, well radical shooting there is different. e periods of the nineties, let's see, we'll look there, there is a rise there or not. we did not give up in moscow yes, i transferred of my own free will, because there are not enough professionals here, such different researchers, 1 smart

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please, invite you to participate in the on-air discussion, no professor. they continued to leave us. well, it's already on tv. you are so passionate about conversation. well, let's pick a leader. so now, in fact, mikhail borisovich will also give the floor. and if someone behaves well, then also this opportunity will be reliable, so it was said about the rise. yes, now we have collected pieces to show you, well, such questions on the street are the beginning, relatively speaking, and there are closer to the mid -nineties expectations. i then whether they changed among the inhabitants of our country, here, who lived then in certain given conditions. i think it's bad. and what do you think, will soon

reach the level of all western countries, that now we have high prices for bread for beer for vodka for cigarettes our country will soon become the best russia has never been second, certainly. her tree is all bright, i believe that we the child will live perfectly. when this happened, so that on the contrary, they would flee from russia, because this has never happened, look at the arrival, we will live better, we will smile. everyone will be pleased. we will greet each other on the streets. and we will not be afraid for the fact that we have nothing, when we come, we have everything we should succeed. you just need to smile more and believe in life. i think that everything is going better now, but much that it used to be worse than it used to be. the less liberty earn money.

so well, here, probably, the key phrase there is about freedom and about making money ninety- one ninety-two ninety-six. andrey vladimirovich, do you see any trend here? and if so, then at some point the skis at the very beginning said that they were an illusion, when it became clear that it was going somewhere wrong. 1998, why the first big crisis? 1998 yes, it was the first it seems to me that you must be 193. i don't take it, i understand that which you are not interested in. this is a grandmother. sorry, i understand. i wonder, wait, you just don't tell me this, because i was in the white house in 1993 until the end. sorry, unlike you, we managed

to run somewhere. there, i will not have time to run. i was there you can eat it, yes, stay sit so that i can be there i was in the ninety-first year in the white house turns out that you really ran because the ninety-first year of the white house. these are completely different people, different people. here therefore, i say again that the ninety-eighth year and from the point of view broke people, because they can very well say people began to lose faith in the new state, finally only after the blow, plus you say that no one has already saved soviet savings was going to return people never understood them. in the ninety-eighth already yes, i don’t want to, my grandmother already wrote them off, you know, and very yes. yes yes, let's have your version. yes, here. eh, it seems to me that, of course, this is not the first crisis of this new e,

democratic statehood was ninety-eighth year. this is already something like the next stage, of course, there was a crisis, er, 1993, and very serious crises. it must be said that the idea of ​​e that the democrats. well, here are the people who will, but to lead solely from the concept of freedom in general, to put it mildly, collapsed. well, in the eyes of ordinary people, they showed themselves to be such normal bolsheviks. that is, because in fact they were in their origin. e from the communist party da and v. in general, we saw that the government has not changed much precisely here structurally in as personal characters. well, just went from the second row to the first row, but with the same psychology. and if we conduct it, then it must be done in such a way that it would be a shock, if it means that there are some political misunderstandings. this means that it is necessary to withdraw tanks, if

there is an opposition in parliament that does not agree, then it must be shot. well , and so on and so on and so on. and the same ninety-eighth year. what is it? well, they couldn’t, well, these economies couldn’t do it, which means that we will do everything at the expense of the population. i i remember very well, this inkombank. i just kept that money there. yeah , imagine that something happens in the second largest bank. here i, for example, in the ninety-eighth year could not. it seemed to me that well, at least uh, the democrats, at least they will somehow hold on to the money and they held on to the banks that they supported, but they supported it, so it's all, yes, i'm glad that mikhail borisovich is a little bit of the court, yes, somehow it turned out that everything was communist. there is certainly no possibility of a collapse in popularity. by the year 1998, there was no new government , because there was no popularity among the so-called new government, in principle, there was not, because for the majority of citizens science

was established against their will. contrary to their choice of march 1991, due to the execution of parliament in 1993, therefore , there is no possibility to say that there was some kind of popularity there before 1998. are there people in the sixth year who still got out of the relationship in the nineties, for whom the representatives of the cpr played in these elections. let me deal. i didn't get to say two more. you are already interrupting me no, no, i added something. e i am able to complete myself, please, please, therefore, here is e personal success story in this period could be. well, the first is a very small circle of people; the second part of the history of this personal success is connected with criminal and absolutely anti-people things. well, the most important thing in our still culture. there is a certain tradition to evaluate the period. flies not for personal well-being, but because this era affected life your country, because

filmmakers would not shoot, and they also need to earn. it is necessary to fill the ethers, there and so on, and the nineties will never succeed in the people's consciousness. in my opinion , bleaching and saying that it was some kind of wonderful era will not work. and even those films that were shown that are more neutral to the nineties, through humor through comedy and so on. they still show it all these showdowns. this is banditry, this whole horror of the nineties in the ninety-third year of his work in telefei to spend the night or the ntv company this year we will be 30 years old, a wonderful completion of the wonderful accomplishment of the nineties, we stop already at so let's pause the last one, we will call. the only daughter cared for her sick mother until her death. she lay in bed for a year . and unfortunately, your mother died, she really made a splash. to give you a loving family, and the reaction

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let's start from these polls, which showed 91 years, the year is important the birth of a new russia is what is the future of our country. you then saw for yourself iosif evgenievich well, i drank a lot that day, although it’s completely uncharacteristic for me, because. i realized that this is a very important step towards collapse. e of the soviet union or with joy from the mountain. so i understood that alexander nikolaevich would have drunk with joy. russia has a bright capitalist future from the soviet army and to be honest, that's what i noticed.

here is the change. this would not be true, i rested from her and very actively and tried somehow understand what is happening around. yes, based on the fact that my mother and grandmother were already starting to survive there, for quite a long time i somehow tried to fit into this system. here's how to survive and return his university. oh what do you say? you should have had a plan in gromadyevo. others , in particular, grisha yavlinsky, and so on , i remember all this sometime at a meeting, but there was, i say . this is huge, i get it. you know, i think this period it was such a tough growing up when you suddenly realized at one moment that you are responsible for the family, for your parents,

for everything in general, for your destiny. and in general, you do not need the state to anyone except yourself. there is no me andrey vladimirovich behind the scenes that i will answer this question under four years. i could only dream, and some pedal car found out that he did not have a pedal car. imagine, however, i understand what i was talking about in my soviet childhood. i hope that i will never experience those emotions and sensations experienced by my parents in 1991 and 1992. every time i look at these video frames with horror, i imagine myself in their place responsible for a child, for a family, for my elderly parents. no no no. here, god forbid, to catch such a thing and i really hope that we will not have such a thing again. well, it's kind of dark. that's why we don't, anyway. well listen birthday, holiday gifts. we need to approach this in a different way. yosya my dear. i haven't seen you in a thousand years. how are you are you doing? nothing that's just going to

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