tv Mesto vstrechi NTV June 19, 2023 2:00pm-4:00pm MSK
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today in our program we want to build a new future for ukraine unknown details. vladimir putin revealed the details of the istanbul negotiations with kiev why did zelensky then decide to fight to the last ukrainian, but we did not refuse negotiations. come on, the ukrainian side refused. unprincipled ukraine and poland are intimidating everyone. who proposes to end the war and is there a future for the grain deal, which is constantly sabotaged by kiev, how can one prolong something that does not work, turned back a single step for vsu huge losses, and ukrainians surrender en masse for the sake of which kiev is persecuting people to certain death. and they left us to the slaughter. just
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watch right now. hello, is this the meeting place on ntv, the place where everything becomes clear? i'm andrey norkin. my colleague is ivan trushkin. we are working live for another week. unfortunately, another shelling began, and the belgorod region, the settlements of valuyki today, ah, fell under this same shelling. so far, at least eight victims are known, including a child with eight children, and the governor of throats speaks about this for the wounded. i’ll tell you a little more about the shelling then, and valuiki began at about 6:30 in the morning, more than 50 arrivals of 40 barreled shells were recorded, and, uh, 14 rockets from rocket systems, the hall of fire, and as the governor of the throats said, five apartment buildings and four private
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houses were hit . well, here are the consequences. you see, broken windows damaged facades. it was reported that his fire in the household building one of the shells fell directly on a parked car. this moment hit. here you saw. on the camera of the video recorder, but, as for the wounded victims, here is a child with a fracture of the collarbone in adults with a shrapnel wound of contusion. well, this morning , ukrainian troops fired at the ukrainians from multiple launch rocket systems. forgive the russian, the city of volnovakha - this is in the donetsk people's republic, which means that local authorities are talking about ten arrivals. here, as stated on the telegram channels, in fact, one of the explosions was captured, as it is already known, at least 20 people were injured. three are in critical condition. the rest received moderate injuries. this means that the federal security service of russia today announced the prevention of terrorist attacks against the leaders of the zaporozhye region, they were preparing terrorist attacks
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on the order of the main intelligence directorate of ukraine , the fsb publishes interrogation footage, uh, the suspects admitted that they wanted to blow up the car of officials on the instructions of the kiev curators. berdyansk was recruited. actually, at the beginning of the year , a certain alexandra found these suspects in the social networks of one of the detainees , she offered to work for a fee for ukrainian intelligence. and to stop the bomb under the car of the head of the city administration , the man agreed to give him a part of the explosive device. he then assembled it entirely according to the instructions sent from kiev to help. he became a local resident. she was also recruited by ukrainian intelligence. the woman had to hand over the bomb directly to the perpetrator. suddenly i read the substance was supposed to be used for a terrorist attack in the city of berdyansk alexandra informed me that the banks would need to be transferred to a person through a huge place for transfer
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cans. i chose a huge place down my street. i took a picture of it near the store in a garbage park and sent it to her, but the german ministry of defense admitted that ukraine was involved in the explosion of the ammonia wire, togliatti odessa fucking in the kharkiv region, the german edition of the bit reports this. it refers to documents for official use. here is actually the german ministry of defense. this document says that the explosion took place on june 7, who exactly is responsible for what happened to the germans. still to the end with absolute clarity is not clear. however, they do not rule out. what could this be done by some about ukrainian groups that are trying to weaken the enemy with acts of sabotage, far behind the front line, while the publication, again with a link. here on this report, which only they have seen, they write that the explosion of the pipeline occurred on the territory controlled by ukraine. in addition, there was a sabotage. well,
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it’s understandably unprofitable for russia, which insists on restarting this ammonia pro. and this is andrei ivanovich another such pinch to the adequacy or inadequacy of the leadership ukraine even in the german press. well, these are the latest news that vanya is now. well, me and vanya to a greater extent. uh, they told you. here, look what they 're about. a-and the adequacy of inadequacy, probably to a lesser extent. in my opinion. e more activity e of the enemy. that is what it is this ongoing shelling. this is a diversion carried out - this is diversion. e, planned. now, what's up with those cans in the trash can? what kind of informational influence should all this have on us, probably extremely negative, and here we are now moving on to our first topic of today's conversation. it seems very important to me, because it's just about it. it's for those people who, well, are some of our guests.
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you have probably heard many times that you doubted that everything somehow went according to plan, that we left the territory there, which were under our control, or for people like me who are demanding, or georg field personally, for example, there don't gasp slowly. here they will listen to some such news, again from the belgorod region and that's it, means. here, let's mean, reap as quickly as possible. ah, last saturday, president putin told a very interesting story. i don't know how detailed he told it to his interlocutors as the leader of a number of african states that flew in to us. well, as if it were decided to transfer parts of this conversation to publicity. putin talked about those same istanbul agreements that, if you remember last year, very many, uh, perceived as some kind of, well, betrayal, i won’t talk, but georg treats like a zhhalschik under cowardice cowardice remember when they started rinsing medina
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there completely that here we are there gestures of good will we are withdrawing troops from kiev and the kiev region from chernihiv in general, in short, putin told how it all happened in reality. and how the negotiations went, putin showed the documents that were signed during these agreements and which, as we now know , the kiev side refused to fulfill. let's see. negotiating groups from russia and ukraine were created almost immediately after the start of the special operation and by april of the last years at a meeting in istanbul, the head of the delegation of vladimir medinsky, david arakhamia , agreed and signed a whole pile of papers, a rachami, then even talked about a summit meeting. we respect, we believe that we already have enough accumulated material to make possible a meeting between the presidents of ukraine and the russian federation , the details of the documents agreed upon at that time were not officially made public, although the foreign press published some leaks, the reliability of which was in question and
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now the past saturday meeting with african leaders in st. petersburg, vladimir putin for the first time told the details of the istanbul agreements and even showed the document itself, it is called an agreement on permanent neutrality and security guarantees for ukraine, it follows from it that kiev was ready to refuse to join nato and receive new security guarantees in return. russia withdrew troops from the kiev and chernihiv regions to the ukrainian authorities refused to comply with the agreements. everything is written. before units of military equipment and before the personnel of the armed forces, here is this document. he he initialed. e kiev delegation signature is worth. but after we, as promised , withdrew the troops from kiev, the kiev authorities, as their owners usually do, threw it all away.
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to the dustbin of history in the draft peace treaty that putin showed african leaders 18 points and several annexes, according to the first article. ukraine pledged to comply with neutral status ; russia, the usa, china, britain, france , turkey and belarus, a sheet with an attachment on the demilitarization of ukraine, everything was there it is painted to the smallest detail how many soldiers of tanks, artillery planes , and the like , the wishlist of ukraine is marked in bold type with the usual what russia is striving for, moreover, as can be seen, taking into account our wishes of the ukrainian army. she could have remained one of the most combat-ready in europe, but the terrorist president, zelensky, rejected further negotiations. not we, but the leadership of ukraine announced that it would not conduct any negotiations; moreover , the current president of ukraine signed
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a corresponding decree prohibiting these negotiations. negotiations, but we did not refuse negotiations. well, as it turned out, the ukrainian side and the decree even from afar. well, what do they want from us? alexandrovich, you like to somehow explain the logic to interpret the commander. yes, then look, and the fact that we have never refused negotiations. this was said constantly and putin and lavrov spoke about it many times. well, we have never presented such evidence, so the first question. why was it done? why did vladimir putin decide? here's to making it public. because the whole situation is entering an unpredictable turning point, and now any arguments are good in order to return it to a more or less predictable course . this turning point lies in the fact that the west is now accepting another permit.
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do they raise the level of escalation or not, do they enter into this local conflict and make it international or not? this is the element of pressure. uh, by the way, mostly not to kiev, but to the west. this is understandable, but what can the demonstration of this document change? well, first of all, look at there are several demonstrations of this document, as if uh the audience one of them you correctly say our yes here with reference to. well, this is understandable, because, in fact, it's not all here either, i understand. i would like to say a few words about this with your permission. let the military and political development of the conflict, starting from the twenty-fourth of february, went in parallel. yeah, because military logic is different. explanation, for example, uh, entering kiev and leaving kiev, i will not digress now. so the political development it was also going on, which means, uh, from the very beginning , the supreme council did not specify how we would militarize and deenergize ukraine in this agreement. you have shown correctly. uh, hmm indicated as we suggested. first time.
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this was our first proposal, let me remind you, then it was said by both the supreme and the minister of foreign affairs. each next sentence will be worse. uh-huh. that offer was rejected. then we got two more new subjects of the federation, the next application will be even worse, that is, for today. what have you gone too far? understanding, we are a little confused in it. wait. so, oksanovitch understands that this is the need to give some predictability to the ripening fracture. yes, but how is alexei not shouting at everyone now, how then it correlates with peskov’s phrase, which, probably, also, as it were , not everything, probably speaks from himself. well, just a long service. and van, as the demilitarization was largely completed , there was some kind of phrase like that, which also means that the ukrainian is very similar, yes, yes, unpredictability. it doesn't look like much unpredictable. yes, wait, well , peskov meant that the weapons that ukraine had
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on february 24 last year. no more, all weapons have been replaced by nato ones. this says nothing about a fracture or a fracture of the search. not predictability. this unpredictability is the same already publicly. representation of aircraft, which means putin you said, ah. here, just don't leave. now again the military logic is political. eh, wait, wait. i am now asking what can change. here putin demonstrated this document. you say, this is an element of pressure , first of all, it means that these bastards who are now considering whether it is necessary to somehow inflate the escalation and not need to. that's what this document is, how does it cool them down. maybe, the way he is now in order to cool, where else to introduce water into a reasonable framework, that is, putin outlined an unstable scheme with you. we were willing to pay the west. i am now the west and it is also obviously trying to find ways to
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new negotiations. putin therefore putin leaked, the result of the previous one. that is, you think that they are trying to negotiate something with us. and we are talking about some negotiations. let's, yes, by the way i agree with a lot of what he said? cossacks that key moment he calls it predictability. i would call this a treaty ability, because putin is not the first who, over the past few days, has addressed the topic of these negotiations , alexander grigoryevich lukashenko spoke before him and made certain very interesting statements about crimea and its fate in the framework of these negotiations - this negotiation process is very curious statements. the kremlin did not confirm there. yes, it is doubtful that lukashenka, as an experienced politician who is still in power in the ninety-fourth year and knows putin very well for 20 years, it is unlikely that he would invent something like that, moreover, it was
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putin who showed the kremlin do you think the kremlin they are different? so, so now as to why this is happening? well, firstly, and seven leaders of states arrived in moscow, which are not unfriendly, but quite friendly countries. these are partners the russians who uh want, first of all, that uh, the russian-ukrainian conflict end, as soon as possible they think that this conflict is causing their own, maybe a little bit faster. right now, here is what is changing now, with regard to this agreement, firstly, it was not signed, but the initialing, so that it would be clear to our viewers. this is just putting down the initials of the participants in the negotiations, without signing by the leaders, because here it was, there was a guarantee of security and france and china's step france china did not participate at all in in these negotiations , there was no agreement between them at all. and what does it mean, with regard to the withdrawal of troops from the kiev chernihiv and sumy regions, then
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again in this agreement we did not see anything about this for you. everything is needed at once, but why did they show it? and yes, just wait. the authorities are so naive that they did not receive any action from kiev, we simply withdrew the troops, because we expected there to be there then putin said about all this, that this is changing. and, by the way, he does the right thing, he talks about it in order to show this leader and in general the world community that russia is capable of a treaty, that russia was ready to end this conflict in its initial stages in february-march last year. and who prevented this, who ruined the negotiations, the process stank ukraine under pressure in the united states i still don't understand. i always talked about it and always why was it necessary to show that russia is still talking about ability. russia slows down negotiations today. just you say, they
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have their own head on their shoulders too. yes, they have ears. and when they were in kyiv heard what they were told there, maybe not so at the table with the president of the terrorists. and that instantly his talking heads ran to say vv, well, the delegation from south africa had an absolute understanding that any plan they bring would be sabotaged, that any plan other than the ukrainian one. this plan is not working. let's. we 'll just see how e in kiev reacts. colleagues, but it seems to me that yes, we continue, while we have now settled on the fact that the africans themselves see the inability to negotiate, the africans did not come for the contract, the africans came for self-promotion. everyone is well aware that now it is useless to conclude some kind of treaty, it is pointless the basis for peace negotiations.
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no, in general, all intermediaries are engaged in self-promotion, from africans to the chinese. here, it means something else. when you all answer questions , you asked me once again to answer you about what has changed, in principle, what will change and should change. west plan period. b. after the ukrainians counter-offensive finally fails western period plan. b will start pushing us through our various tools with our logical groups. and so on. it's something like that. this is what vanya asked. perhaps these are some african names for the conclusion of a freeze when stopping the conflict, and so on. vladimir putin demonstrates this document and once again says that even in the istanbul agreement they deceived us, makes it clear that the kremlin’s position here is quite tough , no new such istanbul minsk agreements and etc. we will not conclude, nor will we conclude african agreements. that is, we we respect them. thanks a lot, guys. here is
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your offer. the main thing was to show respect. we showed, we listened to them and said, we are all ready to talk, but polite harshness was used in ukraine and poland. but this is a different topic, and we did not lose in this regard, as far as we are concerned with the tambov agreements. i remind you that the istanbul agreement was concluded after the beginning of our whole, when it became clear that tactically we would have a number of mistakes. so istanbul is already a precedent, gomel yes, a couple of weeks, i don’t remember a week there, for some comrades had a desire as soon as possible, it ended fortunately. fortunately for us, kiev failed the istanbul agreements, violating them and threw them in the trash. giving us another thousand of those who died even happiness, because we need to end the ukrainian conflict. they arrange freezes to sign some kind of minsk agreements, we will be thrown off, we are signing an agreement on the neutrality of ukraine, they will not be thrown off. in a year in 2 years. this workaround
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does not need workarounds due to workarounds . however, we are still open to negotiations. we are always ready to carry some kind of annoyance not quite right 5 seconds. everything needs to be bombed. i say that it is necessary to bomb not because of belgorod, but systematically, there will always be more strikes, but we are with each other. in general , we have known for a long time and are well aware that every time the history of belgorod, the desire to heat up the desire to burn. well, really, let's andrey vladimirovich as regards there? how is the agreement? well, first of all, uh, there really wasn't any initialing. yes, they endorsed the text, but they lied, no, it's crayfish. it was text imported text without any obligation was the signature was. well, we have a man with a street or he is the head of the delegation of ukraine, he will once again
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tell the point of view of ukraine, as it were after that, i just know well. they that is , the fact that the head of the delegation to the negotiations puts his signature, it turns out that he knows how to write. yes, it was quiet, it was absolutely clear in kiev and i remain clear. today, that in the form in which, and even this project was a project. this is not a document. more it's just that. sorry, they did not agree to just drive through, it will not pass through in any form the supreme rainbow was therefore adopted. the whole thing to go down the brakes is a decision. they are the verkhovna rada that showed, vladimir vladimirovich, i will say. maybe it's not very nice things. i think he showed something because of the stalemate of the current situation. absolutely understandable. here i agree with gevorny that all these peaceful initiatives , all these measured tourists, all this failed and
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there is no chance to reach some kind of document organized it all. this is andrei vladimirovich tupikovy, this situation is coming and people are coming to the stands offering different models some in moscow may like some. no, we always say, well, let's discuss that side always says, you go to the forest with your proposal. there is no reason why in kiev for a meeting of ukraine dear african authorities, it was clearly said, after all, i would correct it as diplomats. not the leader of the president are ready. no, the other, otherwise you will now agree, like the romanian ambassador. no , it was there. during the negotiations with him , one thing was said well. we agree to negotiate with russia if you support the first point of your plan, and the decree, if alexander yurievich asks the right question. i just waited for him. i asked him. repeat the question, please, your decree was canceled, before
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talking in this way a question from another. now permission, negotiations african friends, are publicly ready to state that the first point of your plan. yeah, this is what you will not back down from under pressure from moscow , then you are ready to start the verkhovna rada is ready. it was just referred to the supreme rainbow she is ready far away. it was close there. thank you yes a second. we are here a little, we are all a categorically. if he doesn't want to answer the question , it's important, we didn't retell the south african comrades and andrey vladimirovich's quotes from the kiev comrades, but listened anyway. let's talk about the proposal and the reaction. there is a north african war. all wars cannot go on forever, all wars must end at some point, and
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we are here today to convey to you a very clear message that we would like this war to end in kiev with guests from africa , we didn’t stand on ceremony and said everything right in their help is not particularly needed and in general the peace plan of the africans is wrong, and the visit of the gentleman himself, ramofosy is supposedly. just taking care of yourself african. well, firstly, the african delegation does not have the power that could resolve the conflict. this is not their task, nor their level and not their subjectivity. it is obvious. secondly, they just want to be in the information field. they want to decide. questions about resources and food previously, the kiev authorities kicked off other peace initiatives, for example, the settlement plan for the korean in early june, the scenario was proposed by the minister of defense of indonesia with the president of brazil , luida, a security officer, who also persuaded him to sit down at the negotiating table as soon as possible. zelensky acted generally boorishly, did not come to meet me on the sidelines of the g-7 summit in hiroshima, i
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am not disappointed. i am upset, because , of course, i would like to meet an adult zelensky and knows what he is doing. in kiev, they also brushed aside the peace proposals of the vatican in response to the bronze olive branch donated by the pope. president terrorist zelensky handed the pontic an icon of the madonna written on the remains of a bulletproof vest and flatly refused to consider any option for a peace agreement, except for the ukrainian plan, with all sexual asia until with all due respect to his holiness. we do not need intermediaries between ukraine and the aggressor who has seized our territories. we must develop an action plan for peace, a just world in ukraine, to the mayor in ukraine, vladimirovich, this is what president zelensky is doing now, including after the arrival of african leaders, this is intentional demonstration of the world to offer us something peaceful is impossible and not necessary. we have no agreement, we are not capable of any
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. we will immediately send you to listen to any proposals, even out of politeness. where did they come from? i’ll just note that before that we only heard such statements from zelensky, including his decree that it’s impossible to negotiate with russia, but yes, it’s impossible, it’s impossible, it’s impossible. this is possible, but not possible. and so, what he did later, on saturday, vladimir putin e. this is, in fact, the funeral of that very negotiation process. this is just an aspen stake, but a demonstration of this kind of promulgation documents. documents of this kind are exactly what they are. uh, it's just to throw the story into the dustbin, because these documents included rather uh such scrupulous positions for the russian federation, uh, the opportunity to go towards the ukrainian side. and after the publication
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of such documents, he burns all the bridges in this sense and demonstrates that our goal is we we reach it, which way to go? on if else we were ready to unravel. well, or now we are throwing out these agreements for a second , an addition, how would you do it to me then explain why right now this is all becoming. it is clear that this is impossible, which means that kiev is constantly traveling. eh, there are different ones there and there, well, there are friends of andrei vladimirovich and so on, and it means that they constantly turn on the air raid alarm. uh-huh and they run. uh, take cover and sit there, so oh alarm. well, it's already yes, they've arrived here. as our wonderful diplomat driving they turned on the alarm, and they are watching, and the people are walking along the street and the press secretary of the leaders says, listen here. this is what in full of us for suckers,
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here it holds no arrows no explosions. no, the people are walking, people came who, for some reason, had the courage to call a spade a spade. so why then after that, well, publication. let's say. yes, these are the documents. yes, and that's it, after that everything, as it were, remains with the wife. although, in principle, but it was all a long time ago everyone understands because, except for the europeans. there is also the people's republic of china, which also probed the russian federation for possible agreements about whether you think china didn't know yet, probed anyway, let me finish. well, how could i be wrong, but african alexander is largely considered, including as conductors of the policy of the position of the people's republic of china, and therefore this is what happened when the document was made public. this is not only a signal. european leader that yes, we are ready to move to a new
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stage of escalation, but also a signal from the people's republic of china that today, that negotiations are impossible, that we have to count the chinese. let's alex here. tikho aleksey nikolaevich five five. there is one peculiarity in this agreement. one that gets little attention. this is the position of ukraine to reduce its own weapons and to retreat from some kind of its tamping, that is, in fact, such a very serious slop, today the ukrainian authorities, who at a certain stage were ready, did not demand. there is a return to the borders of the ninety-first year, but they were ready to act there in terms of the number of weapons. there, on the territory, on some issues related to the neutral status there, that is, in fact. this is the ukrainian position about the fact that we are here , there, the first point of zelensky’s plans to return the borders of the ninety-first year by putin shows everyone around the world that, in principle, another option is possible. ukraine accepts some territorial concessions
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makes some concessions and assumes restrictions in terms of armaments policy. this is fine. that is, this is some other format of agreements that is possible even without concessions from russia in the format that ukraine demands, and now what? now, wait, there was nothing territory. andrei you know everything about zaluzhny, about budanov, we showed us, but still. what is changing is it really as they say many of your colleagues now, whatever negotiation process you are a priori impossibility in the process it is always possible, in fact, any war ends with negotiations. this has been repeatedly discussed, including by our politicians, we are talking about the format of these negotiations and about achieving a format. as if peace, which may be possible, because the african politicians yes
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, the presidents who came to ukraine, they also demanded the withdrawal of russia from the occupied territories, and the chinese plan also implies certain returns there. but in relation to russia. there is a course of some territories. yes to the borders on february 24th. you are it you have options there, here, and the option that putin demonstrated is an option that does not imply. there is no progress from those achievements that were achieved, publicly there is only one page or not, the whole agreement was not publicly not become a podolak, would not have initialed it if it had not become it, if it had not been acceptable to ukraine and on the other hand, it is quite clear that russia will never back down from the gains that were achieved in the republic for everyone, but we do not know what you were in it make a conclusion about what was there and what was not there. from a document that is not
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fully public none of us here know is included. i am a continuation of my previous one. look when i say that the situation is at a turning point. and this is a very specific message. this message is not to kiev, and even more so, of course, not the refusal speech spoke better, so i told the truth, because the kiev masters of the initiative, which you yourself listed brazilian chinese african and so on, they all talk about moscow’s negotiations, kiev will not. this is right, aspen stake. negotiation. moscow is ready to fight only with washington, not with kiev this time. this is really an aspen stake. i threw off the conversations, there will be nothing, and each next proposal on our part will be worse than the previous one. we will stop now. we will continue this topic. well, as if such a private piece there, we will pull it out of it. well , in fact, the topic will continue for a short period. here, tell me the code, where did you learn this? i
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, the place where everything becomes clear and we continue this part. let's start with new american attempts to reset the service of relations with china in order to somehow move relations off the ground, or at least create the appearance of a dialogue. here is anthony blinking , the secretary of the united states flew to beijing , this is the first trip to china by an american official of this level in the last 5 years this morning, blinkin was suddenly received by the leader of the prc meet in advance was not announced , it lasted only 35 minutes. that is, you understand taking into account the translation. this is literally several times in front of journalists on camera, the comrade of forces managed to utter a phrase about the progress achieved by both sides and agreement on some issues. what exactly the chinese leader did not specify, but said that the quote is very good, however. show. here is his edition from cherny notes that just the day before,
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well, not the day before, a little early last friday , xi jinping accepts. that's bill gates the meeting is also not announced in advance. it would seem why this would be, but this is such a symbolism that the first american who accepts for the first time in so many years. uh, the head of the prc did not, just antonyms. this means that the first bylinkin in the schedule was in e. meeting with chinese foreign minister qinggang politics. here they talked for quite a long time much more than si - 8 hours. all this lasted. but here it would seem to be some kind of breakthrough. well, or at least hope for this breakthrough, but no important statements have been announced about this. after the meeting, no sounded. everything was pretty dry according to the state department. we discussed serious differences and talked about the possibility of cooperation. these were two quotations according to the american delegation. the main purpose of the visit is to restore diplomatic channels and pave the way for future visits by other high-ranking us officials, china is strained singing and not very high
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expectations from this blinkin trip to china . low we don't hope for talks between chairman si and joe biden this fall all this may depend on these meetings, the talks themselves were very frank. i would even say that, in principle, it is good that one of the members of the american delegation entered into a dialogue at all. he informed me that there was only one point with which they managed to reach mutual agreement, namely, to stop the uncontrolled process towards the deterioration of relations. we all know that countries have long been spying on each other between the us and china has long been gone this level of tension right at our borders , all this has been happening since 2019, to be honest, we are doing the same thing, sending planes to the chinese border. all this does little to help blinkin building relations with china, at the same time, the american congress insists that on the way back home , blinkin should make a stop in taiwan with
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such a letter addressed to him at once by seven american congressmen, and not even a letter is such a demand that in it says that the united states should send china signal. i quote that the united states does not need the permission of the chinese communist party to meet with friends and allies in taiwan or elsewhere, that is, andrei ivanovich, even if on some small issue and managed to make a step, the congressman demands. let's all roll back, but i don't know, i'm not sure that there are some checkers made by a girl. well done, of course, i'm now re-reading all this again. that's which we show which correspondents. go nation we know that beijing is looking forward to talks between xi and jubaiden of this autumn. i hope not. here in beijing they directly hope to wake up from falling asleep. let's get back to our topic. she. in general, also about negotiations about checkers. this means that the istanbul agreements were not implemented, because they actually did not reach the stage of full-fledged agreements, but
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these tambov agreements still had certain consequences of such a negotiation plan. i mean, of course, the grain deal, because it grew from there , consultations continued. here's the deal. until something what us. eh, not until the end satisfies in full, because again, our requirements are not met, not once it was said that this deal should be canceled, but every time we extend it, because we say that we keep the hope that what is now, it seems that this hope is becoming less and less. look, again, what has just been said about the fate of the grain deal. here, again, literally, and at the end of last week, we do not believe that the supply of ukrainian grain to world markets solves the problem of poverty and hunger. no it's not like that nevertheless.
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we agreed to the proposals of mr. nagutar that the secretary general of the united nations, what is the result. ladies and gentlemen , 976 thousand tons out of thirty-one and 70 million were sent to the needy countries of africa. this is djiboutili sudan libya ethiopia sent 976 thousand tons of thirty-one and 70 million. these are ladies and gentlemen, dear friends, this is only three and one tenth percent. if we state what we have right now, then, of course, uh , there are no prospects and there are no grounds for its extension, because, uh, because so far what we was promised not done. and how can one prolong something that does not work exactly half of the package that was offered to guter, namely the package regarding russian fertilizers and food, did not budge at all , only the ukrainian part works
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, such an idea was repeatedly voiced. uh, for us , the grain deal is not about grain. this is about something else, but we can see about it in parallel. yes, yes, yes, there is some kind of struggle with sanctions and so on, but it turns out that now the president, yes, and the minister of foreign affairs in once again. and the head of the kremlin press service. they say that everything, it means, is the same story with these istanbul agreements that putin shows, that is , there are no more negotiations, and apparently, so some small or big one. i don't know benefit that for us was from the grain deal. it is, in general, now also not considered one way or another andrey vladimirovich well, in fact, it is so, because in fact the grain deal will continue without us. ukraine has now agreed on a grain deal. not about grain. you also talked about this. we said that this is about parallel imports. what is it about, right? so wait let ukraine take care of its own grain. here's what concerns us
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is that this will continue, there, the turks will continue to help us with circumvention of sanctions, again, what has changed, nothing will change. in fact, nothing will change. absolutely. i absolutely agree that no one e will fulfill our demands not by whistling not by soft, nothing will be softer now, uh, and that's it. everything will be done beautifully in them with russia from this deal. a beautiful way out, so as not to break all the glasses at the same time, which means i wanted to get my own, it didn’t work out, but we are not so naive that now is a second. well me somehow. you say that once again your words, that this is not about grain , this deal was important for us, including parallel imports bypassing sanctions, otherwise, it will continue to be partially less, that is, decipher and that means that what is partially what
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we wanted to get we got in the face of president erdogan, who remained president erdogan is first. well, and secondly, we got what was in the framework of the grain deal, but did not voice you. well, for example, there is the import of medicine and so on. we kept it for some time now the situation is changing, firstly, ah, erdogan remained of this method. i think we have established other channels. import of what we wanted to receive at the camp in this situation our behavior can be promised by two factors. here are all those statements. first. we are really trying, and the base is to prepare everyone for the fact that everything we finally go out. goodbye, second option. we want to reconcile. we want to make new conditions. we want realistic proposals to be put forward in relation to us, and in this case, we may be, the deal is simpler, and the ones being executed were absolutely realistic, but
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they were executed, but there is such a moment, if we exit the deal, here dear colleague, says , everything will be done without us beams will go without us with our consent. without us, that i agree, one sunken bulk carrier may be enough, one after no insurance company will ever insure this grain. so there will be no clean business. this is one, and secondly, if russia receives at least one dry loader, he will be us. no, it will be andromeda, let's andrey vadim so that you had the opportunity. for now, please remain calm for your final argument. it seems funny to me, because you see, you say that everything will have to be found there now to insure, when they were talking about tankers that transport russian oil and they say, that it's impossible. absolutely no one will. nevertheless, everything, yes, and you downloaded nikolay, did not agree at all several times. well, look, indeed, the grain deal was concluded so that erdogan defeated
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erdogan won, but he was the main beneficiary of this, which was right last year. so they thought that let 's say he needed to be there plus two or four percent of the votes that gave them this to do it to him well, let's say, then this factor is now receding into the past, then the question arises. is a grain deal possible without russia on the one hand? yes, no one will forbid ships there to pass through the black sea to the ports, southern ports of ukraine. can you finish me? well, and secondly, uh. well, the turks are ready to go back. invoke pike perch, but nothing will prevent russia from making it so that there will simply be nowhere to load and there is nothing to do with such an opportunity. russia has, that is, and the russian contribution to the grain deal is the security of those ports. and where are the grains loaded here? secondly, what is my optimism about the grain deal? why me i think that it will most likely be extended after certain auctions. the statements
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that we have just heard are the position of bargaining, which means that russia is not even interested in what it was called here right now in another, but in the grain deal. there is such a thing as spare parts for agricultural machinery, and this is much more important than there than ammonia. than the possibility of those, but these same fertilizers and so on. we have a huge park, tens of thousands of all kinds of western agricultural machinery that were left without spare parts due to the fact that there is no supplies, so the task for the russian economy to work is to ensure the supply of spare parts, and this is exactly included in the grain deal. and i think that in exchange for the supply of spare parts, and russia will agree to extend the deal. i think that the deal has good opportunities to be extended. we won’t be cheap, look, but in principle, we can set up the production of these same combines, seeders, and so on, but this is the time and many of them cannot be bought. well , for example, there is chinese technology. i say
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experts, it does not replace the one that supplied by the west, so these are very big problems that they pose. well, it's not that it's in question, but it's like a big doubt about the possibility of normal development, but of russian agriculture. this is the main interesting one, which for some reason pays little attention, as far as exports are concerned, it disperses exports without any hmm grain deal. mishustin traveled to china and agreed from one fertilizer corridor, as they went so they go. there, in different ways, that is, they are still exported to the foreign market. and here are the parts this problem, if you fight for something, then spare parts let's do something vladimir putin is really right when he says that a little more is just a little more than 3%, and the grain that goes through the grain deal reaches. uh, the most fucked up countries in africa, that 's all. the rest goes there to the europeans and others, but the fact is that turkey itself is one of the main interests in
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the grain deal, since turkey resells turkey's beneficiation benefits of acquiring. then this grain is elections. yes , of course, it was beneficial for russia that erdogan won, but erdogan won and it’s still beneficial for turkey as it is beneficial for the country to extend grain deals, extend and extend the extension, and it is beneficial for russia to maintain good working relations with turkey . it is beneficial for russia that turkey remains, but a hub for a parallel one. you say that as if without this grain deal good relations. with turkey, see what they offer here. let's say we are leaving, russia is leaving, i actually largely agree with alexei borisovich that these are requests from the opposition, but, but let's imagine that grain deal russia has left, perhaps it will happen, perhaps, and here's what will happen next, firstly for russia, this means that
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there will be no more inspections of ukrainian ships by russian inspectors for the transportation of weapons, because from now on. it seems to me that they still do with other routes. oh. ah, so the flood here they said we will sink, this or that ship, if the turkish naval forces are escorted no, ukrainian ships were escorted, which will be destroyed, like me understood, the structure of the reception of something well imagine that russia withdraws from one of the deals and inflicts massive strikes on the port of odessa nikolaev already think that turkey and china are constantly opposed. well, china is just there, call we ended up in turkey significantly on this story. we have less than a month left. as far as i understand, we are obviously not going anywhere until july 18, but we will extend it, but we wo n’t be back yet. we won't be back. we'll be on vacation already, yes, and now we'll break for a little
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, they again began to send out just like that, like a fan, some kind of crap comes, and comes to the post office. yes, yes, it comes to messengers. so, e. i have a big request, people who are here with you, if we are familiar, yes, you are looking at the source at my address, because that this is not from my mail, those who know will immediately see what it is, and the mail is not mine, if we are not familiar with you, listen at all. don’t open anything, don’t want to follow any links, because i don’t know what they send there. these people are not good scammers, so, well, a friend, for no reason at all, i sent you some kind of letter. delete him and good things from me, the correct information applies only to concerts of a different format. and you can find this information either on my website andrey norkin.rf or in social networks, there classmates vkontakte yandex.zen in telegram andrey norkin another format or jokes from norkin, it's all written there, including about july concerts, so i
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warned you about this. eh, and now we have the jewish question sergeevich news, but a little bit. yes , a little jewish israeli ambassador to ukraine supported the right of kiev to glorify nazi war criminals bandera and just kidding. he gave interviews to israeli television and reasoned. so yes, bandera shukhevych is indeed nazis, but the times are, according to the words here this mr. ford. sky, his last name , times have changed and now ukraine has the right to choose its heroes. the view on such personalities such personalities as bandera melnyk and so on are very different from the view of the majority of ukraine. uh, indeed, these people supported. uh, the ideology of nazism. they wanted to see, uh, as part of their struggle for the independence of ukraine. they wanted to see a ukraine without jews. just like they wanted to see ukraine without poles, without communists. and
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, probably, a lot without someone, uh, but ukraine today is going through a colossal ukraine has undergone a tragedy, it has been attacked by aggression, and ukraine is, of course, in search of its identity, the search for its heroes. uh, we, of course, do not like these heroes, but for the majority of ukrainians. these are heroes. these are the heroes who fought for independence along bandera street. unfortunately, it exists in different cities of ukraine as well as it exists abroad. for example , in the united states it should be noted that brodsky was far from such a flexible discussion. not always. we found this quote from may 2. we can look at her. here you go, the same gentleman. we will never reconcile. film adaptations of bandera shukhevych and other war criminals, the reason is simple , these people supported nazism; all this has an impact on israeli-ukrainian relations on may 2 , 23. and now, in a month and a half , such a change in how kiev reacts to all this well,
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probably, kiev somehow had to thank you in return, say, thank you. no, he is dragging israel into such a middle east scandal. you can call the ambassador of ukraine like this in israel, yevgeny korneichuk his name fell into a rage. after the israeli authorities left vladimir putin’s words that the terrorist president zelensky is a disgrace to the jewish people without comment, the diplomat demanded to condemn the words of the russian president. otherwise , the visit of zelensky's wife to israel, scheduled for the near future, will be postponed or canceled, by the way, there was no reaction from israel, no reaction at all. zelensky's wife terrorists arrived safely on a visit to the country today. well, so far israel refrained from supplying its own. by arming kiev and limiting it to some exclusively verbal interventions, but the israeli edition of uala writes that everything can change. this is their article from june 18, and they cite unnamed experts and say that the israeli ministry
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of defense is preparing to sell one of the european countries its merkava mark ii tanks and three. they were made back in the nineties. according to the source of the publication negotiations. now underway with two strange presumably. this is poland and ukraine at the same time, another israeli publication called axius refutes this news, according to sources. axis, the israeli defense minister, allegedly flatly refused to supply lethal weapons to ukraine ; moreover, he openly informed the head of the pentagon loyd about this. well, andrey ivanovich, this is how we approach the supply of weapons and how effective they are and we have approached now . yes, we will really talk, including about the supply of western weapons, but not only about that, but i proceed from the fact that the counteroffensive is this ukrainian is coming 2 weeks. still, somehow , the assessment that putin made is closer to me, that the fourth day, that is, 2 weeks. and they write a lot about it in the western press. now we
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will give you such a very large spectrum. uh, so that you can somehow get acquainted with this. by the last days. you could say so, probably, uh, weaker. or this counteroffensive does not become less active, that is, the attempts are constant. ah, but so far it all ends only with an increase. losses about this, by the way, our president also spoke at a meeting with the military correspondent. here it is, as if here is my impression, based on the fact that it publishes open sources. so they keep pushing. maybe even every day he tries to push more and more, until this only leads to an increase in the loss to me as a person who is used to somehow reasoning logically. it seems strange, but 2 weeks, in my opinion, is enough time to understand that you are doing something, not so, ah, kiev, nevertheless,
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does not change its tactics. let's now see what the western media write about all this. the american newspaper ostery journal writes that the ukrainian army can not advance due to russian air superiority french figaro notes that the results, in fact? no, for a week, only a quote of 100 square kilometers, the tf1 channel, could take it all in, and completely arranged for the rada by filming a story on the russian side about our impregnable defense line, the ukrainian foreign ministry said that such materials break through a new bottom of journalism. here are the trenches dug by the russians just 4 months ago. they are deeper and better built. we have there are several such posts, they are occupied mobilized. in september last year. the ukrainian positions are in this direction a kilometer away, there is a whole network of trenches like this one, and there are mined fields ahead and this is what makes it difficult for the ukrainian army to counterattack. the mont shocket edition of the colossal losses of the newspaper claims that 40% of the ukrainian soldiers who
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trained for many months in the baltic states died in just a week in the so-called meat assaults, the commanders demand that their subordinates by any means cling to settlements show the history of the village of pyatikhatka, in zaporozhye, having occupied it with ukrainian infantry, equipment ended up in a fire bag in the village, artillery and troops worked out with heavy losses. i had to leave positions for a day during the hostilities. over 200 ukrainian servicemen, 33 tanks, 30 infantry fighting vehicles and 35 armored fighting vehicles were destroyed in the zaporozhye direction alone. it looks like a very tight kiev with the reserves last week. general mobilization has reached the western regions, among which ivano-frankivsk in the army mushrooms. all in a row. even starikov got into the blend of the russian military a seventy-year-old mobilized fighter of the apu. ukrainian tv channels enthusiastically talk about military camps where children
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are taught to commit sabotage and kill russian friends. hello friends. hi all. we're officially recruiting people for gunfights. if you are from odessa and you are between 10 and 14 years old, then you can get into our team. you need you in our team, not a fart, but an m16 sniper collage. anything that shoots bullets take military correspondents note that ukrainian units have become less likely to use the vaunted leopard tanks, which our troops successfully destroy. in addition, these leopards get stuck in swamps. with one of these tanks. soldiers are now taking commemorative photographs. german edition. spiegel. it turned out that ukrainian tankers are increasingly imitating tank damage in order not to go into battle another way to save surrender to captivity in a week , up to 500 soldiers laid down their weapons. thrown on light armored vehicles max pro
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hello, we transmit, we transmit. and what do you want to say, maybe personally someone would like to wish faggots left us for slaughter. just like cannon fodder, they had to be shot down, then he remained alive more and more, there was no one when we were driving, we were blown up on a mini on our foreheads, to shoot. we attacked the ambush , that is, the reconnaissance was not carried out cleanly . they threw us on cannon fodder in the northern direction and the ukrainian soldiers from the tenth separate mountain assault brigade surrendered en masse to our fighters. edelweiss, one of the fighters told how their commander himself organized the flight to the russian side. after shelling our positions. my comrade and i decided to surrender , our platoon commander, having heard our conversation , said that he would help us get to the left
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bank. dnieper, our platoon commander and communications chief helped us cross so that they would not open fire on us. i want to turn to my comrades. i know i made the right decisions. i was not beaten or humiliated. i was treated like a person. i don't know this is the term mont really figured it out. well, we found in their publication, maybe someone said before, here is a meat assault. yes, but again, even. if you are so some kind of frostbitten cynical military leader. you just send. here is one wave after another of your soldiers for almost , probably death, but you have some kind of it and you want an idea, yes, even at the cost of a huge number of victims, but i don’t know to occupy some kind of place there, a certain settlement or a strategic height , which means that if, again, what is written in mon that's what they're doing throwing throwing throwing people, but getting no result. this is strange and not lazarevna. how
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could you explain what kind of military tactics this is, even if you believe the western press 100 km. this is not to say that it is not at all resource meters. it is 10 km wide and yes in case of some progress. the parties , if you believe that this is common , they say correctly, if they believe what the deputies said, the servants of the people, who have well inside, nothing holds on, everything spills out, then the offensive was supposed to go from kherson due to the fact that there was a flood there, the offensive did not happen from there and began to go from zaporozhye to pyatikhatki. what in general? you show that on june 4 everything started like this. well, no, no, that is, you are talking about different options. you are talking about the east, and i am talking about the south. and what is happening in the east. this cannot be considered offensive. what he says, my beloved zaluzhny, my beloved zaluzhny yes, that he
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needs melitopol to block the road from mariupol to the crimea is this strategic for the last time. he said this in an interview with icons. everything is the same as it was. and why didn’t he want to communicate now with the bbc, but there is no fresh information, but there is a statement from the accident, you can’t draw any conclusions on such rotten information from the american warrior strategy institute, who said that we are very, very setting the task for ukrainians to block this road, but not it turns out. the main thing is to take it under fire control to make poplar on the aspiration goes from zaporozhye to the last times and will be left behind until the end of the program. i swear to you, can i conclude that this tactic will continue to be used. this is the throwing of bodies, just our positions. i understand that all this is being planned with
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the participation of the americans, or with a large area for the americans, because the strategy is to check where your defense is weakening and that's it. right. well, wait, if you wait, let's be deceived. so, if you want to check where the enemy has a weak spot, you send it there, there, i don’t know two battalions conditionally, right? well, as per our reports, you understand that instead of very, very weak. we put these two. the battalion does not need to go there. no, you are going there again, what kind of a check are you of your reports, and they cannot be different. and i see also ukrainian reports. they are exactly the same as yours, only it is written that they are not, because there are questions. that is, i understand that this is not the kind of reliable information that both headquarters have stopped answering questions. no, that's why it's necessary, that all this is alexei petrovich's misinformation, somehow you can try is to explain version. yes, especially from
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the offensive from kherson. the fact is that there those islands that existed even under favorable conditions did not allow the development of a full-scale offensive by water barriers. it's not just that and pontoons to direct. it's hard for a long time, right? rotten control is impossible, so the kherson direction is absolutely slow offensive, of course, what they did. it fit in with the theme that they would imitate an attack on the belgorod region in the donbass and would break into zaporozhye direction. uh, land corridor question. it is connected with the fact that this requires a lot of forces and means in order to break through this corridor and in order to keep it under fire . well, or control to keep this corridor. it is necessary to break through all the lines of defense that the ukrainian troops are lined up there, they didn’t even reach it, and we still remember what various politicians in ukraine said abroad. uh, with what they associated
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this counteroffensive, that thanks to a successful counteroffensive. they will force russia to sit down to the negotiating table. and she will accept those conditions that are called zelensky's plan in order to force russia to sit down at the negotiating table. to take an object under the control of ukraine, which could twist our arms, and there is only one such object - the zaporozhye nuclear power plant. and all this, the explosion of the kakhovka hydroelectric power station, everything, and more indicate the participation of the british special services and a lot of information on this case. why undermines the kakhovskaya hydroelectric power station six cascades control water in the dnieper one of the cascades controlled we submitted it. and what happened they lowered all their reservoirs in all five cascades. now they can simply block the locks, and that's it, the kakhovka reservoir will become shallow and dry, and this will become possible through the kakhovka reservoir.
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in three directions from the side of manganese, from the side of nikola from the side of the golden beam, these are the shortest distances, between the coasts, there are 6 km with the help of mobile companies on tactical battalions of tactical groups on wheeled armored vehicles, try to capture this only object. with which you can arrange nuclear blackmail against russia imagine if ukrainian troops go to the territory of the zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant just imagine that it will be, uh, it will be, firstly, banned. there will be everyone screaming not to touch. and ukraine will blackmail that we will blow it up now, if you do not remove everything else from our earth, everything else does not matter. city capture corridor capture. we will recapture all this, and this will not affect our strategic orientation in any way. all this is blah blah blah that their first wave failed. it is, of course, their planning was not expected. there are many factors that they haven’t encountered, but the rest of the forces are still fucked up and these
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main forces are still being supplemented by additional weapons, there was information that after all these sms attack missiles are most likely already in ukraine there are f-16s that will used will use long-range cruise missile weapons. and here we are. according to the shelling, uh, there are more of them, which means more carriers of these missiles are simultaneously in the air and somewhere from under vinnytsia launches take place from those places where we do not get air defense means, the enemy changes tactics and the fact that the first wave failed, they did not say that this was right. remember, they don’t say at all that this is such a crime yeah, because 160,200 tanks were killed there 400 armored vehicles more than 10,000 military personnel everything is fine , all the fun alexey petrovich wait a second. that is, the chemistry that you described, how to attack the zaporozhye arrest. or if there's a dried-up bottom out of what's the matter finished from what i read there may be
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what are you doing anyway? you can not do it this way. and that the ukrainians say that your equipment is generally not very small. and we told you, it was necessary to give earlier. let's take a look at this swarm. jordal, the ukrainian military is not particularly pleased with the equipment donated by the west, for example, they complain about american armored vehicles. max pro which in wet weather are useless off-road and wither in the mud. but reporters have spent billions on military assistance to ukraine. west supplied kiev with billions of dollars of weapons and trained tens of thousands of ukrainian troops to support offensives kiev needs to show its western patrons that it can turn this assistance into battlefield advantages to western tools that taught ukrainians how to fight are also serious claims, they say months of training under tail, because nato methods were sharpened for the fight against the middle east, militants or afghans, and
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here the russians are on a completely different level. we have certain experiences that cannot be taught in british army training camps. they have experience, but this is the fight against the taliban, and this is different from the fight against the regular army, such as the russians in the west, but the ukrainians themselves are considered the weak link. the same will street journal was shocked by the fact that everyone is recruited indiscriminately into the ukrainian army, and villagers are enrolled in elite units, if they can link three words for comparison , you can get into the us navy seal squad after passing through a strict selection, and military training lasts at least 2 years german instructors complain about uneducated ukrainian tankers who came to master leopards. they don't know the gender of german, and you won't be attacked by translators. you have to translate from german into ukrainian. partially into russian. this requires a large number of interpreters , the german military cannot communicate one-on -one with ukrainian soldiers. in the german army. there is a translator. but they can't
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do it without a break without being impressed. with ukrainian skills in poland, the former commander of the ground forces calls on the all forces to demonstrate serious success already this week for 2 days of fighting. they have advanced to 1300 m, and rejoices what kind of counteroffensive this is marking time. they did not even overcome the russian positions, the russians are not fools, let's not make idiots out of them. they are really cunning tough opponents. kyiv found a universal answer. on all claims, it turns out that the western allies are to blame for everything, who from the very beginning of the special operation did not believe in the ability of all to resist the russian army. minister of defense of ukraine the other day with bitterness. i remembered how the west reacted to the requests of kiev we they asked if we could have stingers, they told us no , dig trenches and kill as many russians as possible before it's all over. people thought that our victory was impossible. vadim francevich.
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2 weeks of this counteroffensive have not been the most successful, and the darling is already starting to nod at each other. and they say it's your fault. no, you are to blame. no, you're not. it's going to continue like this. the longer this counteroffensive does not go in the format that ukraine wants the west to, the more they will quarrel, or is it wrong skills remind me of the civil war in russia, when and during and after, it means that the whites accused the western allies of the fountain that they didn’t supply enough weapons to you, the entente said that the white threads fought well , they didn’t know how to treat christians. this is about the same problem, they really do exist, firstly, the counteroffensive is this justification that they supposedly started zelensky said yes it started, that is, it is underway, but another question. what's in the west and that's how hyped we have from now faced with a curious propaganda effect. they hyped him up so much, they pinned such hopes on him that when something didn't go according to plan, it causes confusion and an attempt to explain,
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that's quite clumsy like the general of the mile, uh no, everything goes according to plan. and there is something that turns out to be such direct accusations. why were there hopes for this? what was the scheme? here the ukrainians will start. it doesn't matter where kherson zaporozhye bakhmut will start somewhere else, they will achieve some success. and then from a position of strength. we will impose on russia some kind of negotiation europe was tired of the war, and they hoped that against this background they would really offer some kind of zelensky’s plan, and here russia would make concessions. it turned out all wrong. they are now trying to find an excuse for one of them. by the way, the fact that the situation of the first world war is repeated is stronger than the offensive, that is, the means of conducting defense. they are much more powerful than offensive weapons. so everyone has switched roles. this is such a mainstream, now in the western press, that the russians used to attack them, as if the ukrainians beat them, now the ukrainians are trying to attack them, the russians are beating them, but what is curious is the image of russia is changing the russian army in reserve, on the eve
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of the counteroffensive, which was emobilized motivations, no weapons are outdated, uh, everything is bad, the command is incompetently the social crisis is growing. look at what assessments they give for the last almost week well, well-prepared defense, competent command, the best quality of the russian army, but , by the way, apparently, intelligence gave this data and on the eve of e, observe what the poles said dudy said no need underestimate the russian enemy. but you know, when they act like that, a single lazarevna, wait a second, when they write like that in the press. this is an attempt to justify failure, because if if you use the same terms that are used three or four months ago. look at these russians. they can't do anything, then guys, who are you now? you lose, why hasn't it happened yet, but a certain psychological turning point is being observed, and what is important? it's not easy to know russian successes. and so, let's talk about how they do it. he superimposed once again, it must be emphasized on
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the fatigue from the war. especially in europe and by the way, what is noted is not just the equipment there is bad or good. ukraine i saw such a term in one of the western newspapers as a zoo, that is, it is so diverse that its maintenance is ammunition. uh, all the logistics are extremely difficult. take the french marder technique, the german bradley leopard tanks, if they also put the merkava there. this is generally a tank exclusively this is common. pay attention to what i say. here it is in german publications show how unprepared the westerners were for this offensive. oh, it turns out we need german carriers. oh , it turns out you need to teach. what does it mean? and partly they stole, because we saw that the same equipment fell into, not at all in ukraine, all the responsibility now is its minuses ukrainian jewish what leave my dark past alone. i'm talking about
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something else for you to pass. such your recognition was underestimated and how they are now on the ukrainians, who ah-ah-ah don't know the german well , they are trying to write off their rights. yes it is clear, it's clear. thanks then. here i develop the idea. uh, vadim francai, if there really was a twist on everyone with expectations and expectations were really such counteroffensives would be so successful that the russians could be forced into some kind of negotiations and various concessions. if the counteroffensive does not turn out to be successful. what does this mean? it’s just that sometimes they said that then there would be no help to kiev, i hardly believe it, but nevertheless i ask that the west will continue to provide massive military almost everyone says other financial support to ukraine. here, i'm sorry i heard.
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this is this comrade pyotr pavel who said at the end of the week that ukraine has a single chance this year this year, yes, but if he says it won’t work now, then he has some kind of a little grim for them, er, scenarios. let's look at three options. let's look very briefly. uh, developments now again. in fact, of course, the first 2 weeks, and the ukrainians have no special success, which means option number one. well, let's say, uh, they still have a lot of basic strength. by the way, they haven't launched yet. almost everyone agrees with this. let's say they turn out to be advantageous positions in a few months and will be able to terminate some of their serious success. well then, of course, the west will definitely supply more assistance in support and prepare new offensive operations this year. in the next. uh, time will tell the second option, let's say it's a counteroffensive. seems limited success means i am. and what
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such limited successfully limited successfully you can announce a lot, you understand, you can not even take berdyansk, you can not take melitopol but take what you said? yes, i don’t know, living or non-living now , we have already taken the psychological crimea. here, well they now also announce. here is a slightly limited device. no, no, you see, in the outflow, where they moved, and and took five or six, inhabited by small villages of settlements . no, this, of course, cannot be considered a success by anyone, but this is only the initial stage of the counter-offensive, now the third. yes, that's the third option. let's pretend they don't achieve, uh, even the limited success that western propaganda and ukrainian propaganda might pass off as success. that is, well, people, after all, the people, after all, they also understand something and give out some completely insignificant movements. for success. it would be difficult. in that case
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, it's likely. the next option, which really, maybe, in this case , is the transition to the beginning of the negotiation process. but what is important to note? this intercom the process can go on for a very long time, maybe for several years, and both sides, both we and the ukrainian side, to improve their negotiating positions. we can carry out new offensive contees of some kind of frost, here, uh, it’s premature to talk about it at the moment. well, i think that the ukrainian leadership needs to be awarded medals named after gan's zep armor to the one who watched one of the american tv shows. he'll understand what it's about, because that's why there is, uh, that moment. he says that's when we started combat robots were put up against us. i have worked out a very simple tactic. i just threw people at them in waves until these robots ran out of kill limit 999 there 9.99 and so on. well, actually the first thing we see is that, uh, despite
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nato support, despite operational tactical support and everything else, there was no special counteroffensive plan. nato has not participated in major confidential confidential wars since the fifties with the korean war and obviously, that this also affects the fact that used to fighting completely different opponents. it’s either the serbs, or serbia proper, or syria, i wouldn’t have fought so much, they didn’t throw themselves. in the same place, they also carried out operations there or mountains, there really is perfect. come on, the enemy, and here, it turns out that when you encounter an enemy. still quite powerful literate, it turns out this is a surprise. they also have no experience. they are also outdated in many ways. they have a second definite success, which they will give out as an absolute success, there not even 100 there 113 m², they didn’t take melitopol, but they took, for example, pyatikhatki makarovka, they listed it there, there and so on. it doesn't matter that all this foreground is a gray area. the main thing is that they took them. and then,
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naturally, this counterattack itself, it can now be used in different variations. the first is to demand even more weapons and money, the second is to demand the direct involvement of the alliance countries or the alliance itself in the hostilities. well, the third is that it still hopes to continue these assaults, because the reserves and ukraine will be enough for about a month and a half of human life, then you can talk about freezing, and then they will put f-16, and then in the end, that is, first we will get into a fight, and then we will figure it out, as we supposedly say. so, i am so convinced that the circuit itself has come, it was planned, mainly in the wake of the success of the kharkov operation last year. here we went on carts on these light bms , we won a place then why not now? okay now a short pause. we will continue in a few minutes. well,
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all other salaries are not clear. in total , ukraine expects to receive financial assistance from various international organizations, a much larger amount - $115 billion. this is not by us, invented figures, this is the figure that the prime minister of ukraine denis shmal called, but adrianovich, the picture is the expectation of reality, although no, why real, because they receive this money all the time is another matter, that some explanation of the results is needed, why do we needed? this money, so give us one more angle now here's a look at such a counter- offensive. it's a bit of a promotion, if i may say so. as part of the media counteroffensive, ukraine brought a cellist to germany to sing the air raid signal to the germans. on the note of the maya in the war, each note has
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more value than in ordinary life. today i wanted to immerse berliners in this feeling, when a concert in the subway is the highest cultural value. what can be the scandalous swedish echo activist greta was sent to a pro-ukrainian performance to representation, he is in a massacre, where russia was accused of blowing up kakhovka gas and demanded to condemn the environmental atrocities that the russians allegedly commit in ukraine. we see what is happening the views of the whole world. drew ukraine and russia to what is happening now, we are not going to be observers. we are not going to be silent, and in london, on the eve of the conference on the restoration of ukraine, they are actively promoting the project of turning the country into a kind of energy hub of europe in 2050 , kiev requires a little for the implementation of the program a lot of 400 billion dollars with such investments. according to forbes , the production of electricity. in ukraine , gas production may increase sevenfold. four times
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oil is more than 6 times. in addition, ukraine wants to localize 90% of the production of small modular reactors and independently produce nuclear fuel . thermal power plants are planning to switch from coal to gas and biomethane. we want to convey to the participants of the conference in london that ukraine can become a powerful energy hub of europe in case of restoration, you need to bet for the localization of equipment production , green energy, accumulation systems and balancing capacities. already before something prevented 30 years. well, 25 so, annych, you started to comment on something that when vanya was talking about money from the world bank, i agree that in general it was about the offensive. she says it's too early, because less than two brigades are now involved in offensive operations and more than 10. but she hasn't tried the three razmetalitic line of defense. yes and secondly
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, it's all so to speak, what the media write and other expectations. i dreamed just for one from the head of nato who told me a few days ago the phrase the success of the ukrainian offensive. in ukraine, one cannot measure the territory that will be returned or controlled by the success of the ukrainian offensive of ukraine will be that as a result of it, conditions should be created that make it impossible. the offensive of russia, and some conditions that just exhausted the russian army of causing damage, and so on and so forth, it is useless to prevent the russian army from starting its offensive. like this. what now? well, excuse me, more exhausted vsu. here, well, it is obvious that whoever advances always loses more. it is known to always listen. yes, not always, but take the german operations.
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during the betrig. what if they had more losses than the french. here i would like to clarify about the main forces of this repetition. let's just say, the main forces have not been introduced, that the lines will be stormed by tanks, and therefore they have not been introduced, not broken through. tactical lines. tanks will be brought into breakthroughs, but there are no breakthroughs, and these mantras about what is not territory is not measured. this is an attempt to justify the apparent failure of the initial phase of performances. do not divide. we bakhmut 224 days and. this is a special operation to keep an eye on the enemy. russia managed to achieve what she sent a strike, where he was prepared . they couldn't find russia's weak point. if you don't want to acknowledge the successes of the russian army, say so, well, let's go back, they don't do this in the west. and why don't they do it? here, in is russia simply not a success? from what our successes will never be recognized is that this is only the beginning stages of a breakthrough week.
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no, let's proceed from the fact that andrei vladimirovich is telling us the true truth, and one of the leaders of nato, perhaps even samberg, told him about it by phone. andrew next. we have now heard. this is alexey petrovich your comment. is it possible to evaluate the success not the success of the offensive in this way, that the point is not in the territory, but in exhausting the opponents to fix losses in such a way ? way on yes war on wear. and if initially, when it began , it could have consequences for us thanks to a special military operation. we have worked on the bugs. yes, they have improved the supply of the troops, have already established serial large-scale production of military equipment, repairs, and so on and so forth. that is, it has benefited us. if we look at the military industrial complex of the same nato countries, reverse processes take place there. there is no, uh, mass
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production, even the same ammunition is not mass-produced easily booking and heavy armored vehicles. all capacities are being transferred to the territory of the united states of america, where this issue will start in the twenty-fourth year at best. that is, we are looking at two things, who is working hard. now the americans are forced to unpack all their military depots in europe; there are depots there that the americans have always kept nz. large ammunition comes from there. we saw 105 caliber shells that were used back in the years. oh, this is war, so 105 caliber went to leopard technique. the first howitzers, 105 merkava , the second will also go with a hundred and fifth caliber. i mean, it means they can't supply you with the supplies you need in large quantities. why did the shells go with both days, it is the uranium of others, which is not enough. well, then fight, then such hmm. we see
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that these portions of the supply of equipment do not go in a continuous stream, there are hundreds of them, but they go. so little by little they are thrown to solve some problems, the air defense system does not work and the problem has not been solved. they are now thinking how to apply aviation, that is, in fact, attrition works the other way, despite the fact that there are some of the first economies in the world that are included in the g7. these are completely different things and different costs. they are not replenished and let's say. does not bring profit. we have the opposite, but the americans had with us the americans will receive their money. i'm talking about this, especially the american ones, but i'm talking about what we have thanks to the fact that mobilization capacities have been preserved. we have not fully reformed our military-industrial complex in order for it to stop work, as he worked, thank god, did not have time. yes, we did not have time, and now we see that it all works. let's not do this before this real goal of nato is voiced by andrey, how to say? yes, the fact
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is that one of the goals, perhaps, is precisely the prolongation of the war. it was not in vain that you mentioned nato operations against the republika srpska. this is not serbia, this is part of bosnia, e , near sarajevo, and nato planes bombed a makeshift army on a mountain, playing positions for three days, and it doesn’t matter if these muslim heads went there, that is, they they are well aware that in order to launch an offensive, you need an advantage or air cover there was nothing here. isn't all this counter us here, here is this lack of good defense. isn't this just the purpose of prolonging the war? after all, it is very profitable, especially the united states, yes, because stockpiles of weapons in europe are gradually being emptied, you can completely destroy the local you, so far, in sweden or in germany, you can transfer production to the usa to load them with orders. and most importantly - you manage the conflict, which practically all of eurasia, here it makes it bloody, this one, this wound. it does not waste its citizens' time throughout eurasia. i 'm sorry. now we will summarize
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it is absolutely not her fault that she has become a battlefield between america and russia. therefore, if the west wants the war with russia to continue, then they themselves will offer weapons and give everything themselves, otherwise they will have to fight, so alexei petrovich i think that the first stage of the offensive . it still ended in failure, but this does not mean that the offensive itself has stopped, the second stage will be the enemy will do the work on the mistakes and according to this work. will change tactics, pull up new types of weapons and try to reach results that satisfy. yeah, their western sponsors are no different, vadim frants of course. the first stage remained with russia should not be underestimated, however , the enemy. but there is another trap that the west will surely use to propose some kind of truce conditionally. a peace plan to delay time to take a breather and strike again. eh, in russia it is important not to fall into this trap now. i
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understand little in military affairs, therefore, i can only talk about copper and the effect of the hot effect, the burning columns of nato. techniques, including including leopards killed soldiers trained by nato instructors. all this should have a drop by drop on the western layman. maybe there is still not the biggest feeling that in ukraine their western bosses are somehow acting incorrectly, maybe something will drip. well, in general, i absolutely support the idea that there is no need to cool down. but to be honest, of course, the organization of this ukrainian counter-offensive reminds me of how everything in ukraine was organized, organized, organized. for over 30 already count, there are two years of her independence and so how many people work in your team. well, with a boss 12, and therefore without a boss eleven no without a boss. nobody works for us at all. it was a meeting place that cannot be changed 14:00 ntv weekdays goodbye to all
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