tv Mesto vstrechi NTV June 22, 2023 2:00pm-4:01pm MSK
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today in our program, desperate malice ukraine struck a bridge from the crimea to the kherson region, what will be our answer all these coordinates will be known soon the answer is very serious with nothing. the united cashier of europe was empty due to assistance to ukraine when a real budget crisis comes to the continent. we must additionally add several tens of billions and the eternal evil of warsaw is waiting for an apology. from kiev, berlin and moscow , whether the poles will be able to once again provoke a new world war, in fact, has become more an accomplice of the aggressor. watch right now. hello, is this the meeting place on ntv, the place
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where everything becomes clear? i'm andrey norkin. my colleague is ivan trushkin. we are working live. well, the kiev regime did not make any exception for the twenty-second of june. this is june 22 in our country, the day of remembrance and sorrow for them, this is either an ordinary day or vice versa, they demonstrate that they are such successors of nazi traditions, not only they run around with swastikas or there with chevrons of some nazi units. in general, today they again shelled our territory this time, and the goal was the chingar bridge - this is the bridge that connects the territory of crimea and the kherson region. as far as i understand, this, in my opinion, is the shortest land, and here is the path between the mainland and the island investigative committee. reported that four rockets were fired at the putingar bridge. now we will show you the results of this. the shelling, well, actually the shots that are eyewitnesses, but they post it there, you can see this flash and a table of smoke that rises above the bridge right after the impact, presumably
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were used to fire the storm shadow long-range missile that ukraine received. forgive me in may on the fragments of one shell in journalists. eh, as they say. well, actually. here we see for ourselves here it is written france well, in general, as if it all comes from there, or is delivered, because as far as i remember, this is an english rocket , there were no victims, the bridge itself, uh, was damaged, the traffic on it was stopped . now here on the diagram you can see it is directed through armyansk, but now they will try along one of the chongar lanes bridge traffic to resume the ministry of transport. crimea said it would take several weeks for a full recovery. that's true and uh, the backup bridge also came under fire, it will also damage and let's comment. e temporary, acting governor of the kherson region. let's listen to the balance of vladimir. today is june 22, this is a hint of what the fact that there is the beginning of the end for
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the kiev regime in the first place. and one more fiery hello, the coordinates of the bridges in the odessa region in the moldovan jujulesti, all these coordinates are known, so it will be very serious answer soon vladimir putin held a meeting this morning with members of the security council, including, of course, the situation in the sro zone in particular. this is the ukrainian counter-offensive that has begun, and those colossal losses that the ukrainian side is suffering both in equipment and in manpower. appliances, of course, can be supplied additionally. but the mobilization reserve is not unlimited, and it seems that the western allies of ukraine really decided to fight with russia to the last ukrainians at the same time we must proceed from the fact that the offensive
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potential of the enemy has not been exhausted , the list of strategic reserves is not yet involved and i ask you to keep this in mind, when building combat work, you need to proceed from real presidents. i heard the reports of the minister of defense sergei shoigu from the secretary of the security council nikolai , from which it follows that our troops at the beginning of the ukrainian counteroffensive have already destroyed more than 13,000 ukrainian military, as for the equipment, the apu lost 246 tanks. of these, 13 are western-style and 59 foreign armored vehicles, the third of which is american. bradley puck also reported on the formation of a reserve army and an army corps in russia. they will be created by the end of this month, the reserve troops will be equipped with almost 4,000 pieces of military equipment. well, this morning the ministry of defense published footage of the work of the operators of our russian drones directly in
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the south donetsk direction, it is there that the ukrainian troops. now they are trying to attack. here is the video itself, maybe it is not of very good quality, but you can see how under a flying kamikaze drone destroys ukrainian equipment, including an apu armored personnel carrier in ukrainian social networks. now, as they say , a completely different video has become viral. if we can look at it. yes, this is a ukrainian tank, under the bottom of which there is a ukrainian vehicle at the same level. exactly how. it happened incomprehensibly, but experts say, for some reason, the drivers of the tank mechanic of the tank with christ decided to abruptly reverse this one, but an american armored conveyor turned out to be behind. production max pro well pranksters on social media call it all broniss. the german publication birt sums up the results of sixteen days of ukrainian attempts to attack, and here we need to quote a couple of quotes. uh, the counteroffensive is advancing agonizingly slowly and the panicked retreat of the russians, as the publication writes will not claim that the ukrainian armed forces were able to advance. only quite a bit. uh,
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distance ahead, several well- fortified russian lines of defense. approximately the same line is followed by the former head of estonian intelligence the battles are being fought on the southern front. on the ukrainians still do not go too deep into the defense of the russians , the russians built long lines. defense along the entire front and apu. they tried to break through these lines in three places, but not with very energetic maneuverable units. rather, they acted with artillery fire. and very carefully, therefore , i would not expect rapid and deep progress from the counteroffensive of the armed forces, even before the estonian intelligence, andrey vladimirovich is too slow, uh, slow offensive. and today we want to turn to topic. not just like that, because we wanted it, but there is, uh, a real informational occasion. here's a topic that seems to have been constantly present for many, many, many months. you can even say the last years, but for some reason it has faded into the background lately. uh, kinda slow.
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all this began to develop even more slowly than the ukrainian counter-offensive. i mean the next, uh, sanctions package, which is finally here. packed by european states tomorrow we will all know the details of this package on friday, we will find out as before sometimes a pause between the adoption of x and the current eleventh package. it just took an unexperienced 4 months to agree on these sanctions. this is an interesting indicator, because earlier, if you remember, almost every month, like, yes, everything appeared very quickly, everything, as it were, as it left the assembly lines, so this the eleventh package was not without reason called, uh , a package with packages, because it is focused on ensuring the work of all previous sanctions that were introduced against our country, but which somehow are not working as, er, a mistake, as this organizer would like. can we have some okay , now i'll share, which
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are included in this package, which means that it is concentrated there. uh, dotting the effort, as i said on closing the loopholes, uh, allowing bypassing earlier. sanctions, but first of all, these are parallel imports , which we have added to the black lists, and new participants and companies are provided for, restricting the transit of high-tech goods through our territory, it is forbidden to enter the eu countries by our trailer. and so next is the most important and probably the most confusing so far, with regard to the supply of our oil to europe via the pipeline. friendship means, the poles say that the boys of the eleventh package get the southern branch of the pipeline. and on it we are oil. uh, we are pumping hungary to slovakia and the czech republic, the hungarians declare that the ban applies only to the northern branch of friendship, it has long been pumping oil from kazakhstan, its final recipients to germany and poland itself . there is such a mess. there is still, but kiev
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seems to be pleased with the result. watch part of it the regulation was prepared on the basis of proposals from an international sanctions panel chaired by michael mcfall and andrey yermak this package will further limit the profits russia has made so far in europe it still has access to the products and components of the technological and financial schemes created by those countries of the world who still value freedom and international law. russia must be in complete isolation. well, the main person responsible for our package mats, of course, is andrey vladimirovich. yes, the package worn. so, translate into understandable language for both me and our viewers, what kind of eleventh package it is. in fact, for some reason it took a long time, but it was developed, because this package, which affects a large group of countries, and i will not no no. no, in the same way, i’m not going to get out, especially in the economic part. so, in the political part, the eleventh package jeopardizes,
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transit of goods from europe from other countries to russia through turkey united arab emirates georgia armenia kazakhstan and kyrgyzstan that's it difficult for us, because in all these countries of kazakhstan, therefore, now a vivid example , e, restrictions will be introduced on the supply of goods in russia, this is both a political and economic test. for me, this is a crime of information. everything is there. and banking services, which are now so cut off on us, are partially affected by the eleventh package. china is partially, only therefore, from this point of view, it will drastically complicate the financial developers as well. and here are the countries that are called they, they understand what kind of a threat they face in order to wait. now you just named georgia allow. yes, as far as i saw the photos yesterday, i read materials on the upper lars. here is our checkpoint there
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, almost completed and put into operation additionally. road transport lanes, because the number of goods has increased by a multiple, which cargoes go from georgia to us through georgia, they mainly come from turkey and from armenia through armenia now georgia and this time this is a problem, if turkey is a, and the eleventh package implies introduction of secondary sanctions against turkish banking companies, then it will simply decrease very sharply and georgia will also fall into georgian companies . they seemed to sit over him somehow cuckoo. they understood that they were trying to hit not only russia but also numerous countries that had previously tried to stand aside, trying to earn some money one way or another unconditionally. as soon as they start on these countries. so far, do not press like that, but try to push it. they are these countries instantly transform. well, not outside partners, for sure. yes, you threaten so
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many countries with sanctions, they want to be friends with you more. will not. yes, i will put away the condemned in mind the example of kazakhstan here is kazakhstan , which introduces day after day a new and new restriction on russia's supply of food products here, of course, and goods and plus, of course, is very important. and the fact that we close a very serious loophole. this is the transit of high-tech goods it is no secret that many goods went from europe to kazakhstan say please, disappeared on the way to russia, but hmm, does that mean, finally, we will die after the introduction. but no, the 12th package will be more expensive, but it will be more difficult and longer and more expensive. here is the latest package by number. here's to your point of view. i think somewhere around 18-20. oh, this is the first, well, the second, i'm also handing over closed papers, which, uh , which were being prepared, which, of course, you
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got to know such a person, which was prepared by the working group for the package, there is a very honest thought that the action of the eleventh package will manifest itself to prove itself in january-february 2024 on the eve of the final stage of the presidential campaign in russia, and what will come in for the russian economy we have no final elections in september, presidential yes presidential martin yes presidential we have the president of russia first anton well, let's do what i am i understand the logic. for example, i have now become a completely law-abiding driver. i'm sorry all my life i went not fastened, so for the last. well, this is a habit in recent months that a person forbids sergeevich what kind of stupid habits to interrupt seniors in rank, including what i wanted to say, and over the past month i have received fines. so, i don’t know, apparently the cameras started working somewhere on
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my route. now i’m driving like a bunny, because i’m not trying to pay as much, that is, there is logic in this, what he says, andrey vladimirovich, there are turks, kazakhs, georgians, who vanya says correctly, it seems like they didn’t take anything aside, but they received their money and it seemed like they helped us a little. now they get slapped for it hands hands and money will lose. well , naturally, they will not want to do this and will say, i am will. we agree with europe, no, not so. explain logic. in general, these of this sanctions package are absolutely, understandable and that means giggling rejoicing, they accepted some kind of package. it's stupid any package of sanctions. in any case, there is nothing good for russia, but it is also pointless to cry and grieve, because, well , it will not have any cardinal significance. e have there with the south, then with friendship it is not clear there to the north or south stream there most likely . it will be only the northern and just the polish diplomat. just wrong or
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wrong. well, or just said, well. difference with trailers yes, an unpleasant situation, because it will increase the cost of goods in both directions. this is some kind of overload of change, a radical change from the point of view will not be much more serious. yes indeed all these attempts to limit. uh, parallel imports, respectively, all these stories, but uh, let's evaluate the eleventh twelfth or the eighteenth package should understand that we give an assessment to some event in the final action, after which something will happen, and the process, and the assessment is very simple - this is a living process. they will put sticks in our wheels, we will look for new options for new holes. how, with regard to andrey vladimirovich's forecast, that there will be an eleventh package before the presidential elections? what is the maximum? why , you understand, we won’t be able to make a choice here, but andrey vladimirovich’s logic is also. in general, it is clear that they are under the presidential election they will try to mess with something, somewhere , not necessarily with these packages, well, some other things, of course, are good. let's go
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right in this video, as mikhail sergeevich said, they throw us. throw up, and you will now just already saw your hand raised. yes please, thank you. well, actually one small one. one small clarification, because ivan a said about the fact that countries will rub money. uh, is engaged in this parallel import, well, or there legalized smuggling is not strange, but shell russian firms that have registered now one second. i'm sorry, but you're incorrect no. who gave me the contract. you will object later, and this means that these are russian companies that have registered front companies in kazakhstan, in armenia, in georgia, and so on and so forth. they earn the money of the country, they themselves do not receive anything. well, or they get some kind of miserable, yes, and these things are controlled. now why has not yet joined the sanctions against us.
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i have something a lot to download the last time. they say that we will not do this, because armenia has grown like a colossal growth. eh, income. well, listen, for example, imports have grown in kazakhstan. e, barrel, in my opinion, on this topic, in kazakhstan, imports from vehicles increased by 268 percent over the year, in my opinion, and kazakhstan did not succeed and, accordingly , exports from europe to russia of similar goods fell by 78%. well, here it is. everything is clear. yes, there are companies that are registered in kazakhstan because in russia this import is prohibited, he is now kazakhstan through kazakhstan, respectively, the eleventh package. he says that we are not going to tolerate this situation, we will close these loopholes, and then it will be. well, that's exactly what we were talking about. as a matter of fact, please, here i am somehow smuggling secrets secret trails. this means that i heard yesterday that volkswagen announced that
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everything was over, which means preparatory work, and volkswagen enterprises are russian. now it will be called somehow there, i don’t remember, but some kind of rdr. yes, and under this name , cars continue to work in russia bring, and in fact, the new volkswagen is already in showrooms. you can find spare parts will bring service. will be continued. i don’t understand something then, in parallel with one hand, imports mean that a without the consent of the copyright holder, that is, in a normal situation, volkswagen as a company says we export volkswagen cars to relatively speaking, to brazil or in russia , and we as a company bear all responsibility for their technical condition for spare parts and so on volkswagen says in russia we no longer supply if someone says, and now we will take it and import it, and someone from this formation will create an acceptance, which is called
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in a different way, how in a different way everything is the same. yes, yes, i remember that smuggling is an illegal wax of goods from the point of view of the copyright holders, absolutely legal. let's. we now will not be times. here is the consent of the copyright holder. well, we can come back, my dear. let's return to the package and its consequences iosif vilgevich. let's go colleagues, and first of all, we seem to be lagging behind in the criteria for evaluating all these packages. so explain and explain. well, here the chip brought the documents of the selective scale, where it was said that since it fails, well, the consultant, who provides, since it fails, is most likely to start correct
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successes on the battlefield. e. well, they write to ukraine at least on the territory of russia, then the extremely important argument will be that biden retained leadership and integration of the opposition to russia so, therefore, the main point of all these packages is to demonstrate that the euro is. by seven, all around america rallied and are acting against russia and in addition, there appears to be global pressure for russia to get fewer opportunities. that's all, therefore, and counting a penny, how much a person will be a little more expensive here. there is another logic, it needs to be turned on. eh, so you have to show. this is the unity of the americans. but what if it didn’t work, excuse me, but they hurried, hurried e with a counter-attack so that by the beginning
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of biden’s statement about joining the fight , analysts say right away that success is not visible on the horizon, a today is good evaluation criteria. remember, the biden in warsaw broadcast the ruble dollar 200 rubles. ka russia has been crushed to shreds and so on. of course not, and they themselves in general , the same old fascist barrel has already stopped talking about it, but nevertheless, certain troubles. we will be here honest sanctions deliver to us. let's look at these troubles a little and understand how unpleasant they are. just last week, russian banks faced a ban on yuan transfers through chinese bank of china to europe and the united states, the share of such shipments is small, but it is believed that they could be used by private investors and businesses, banking experts believe that the chinese have imposed restrictions, fearing
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secondary sanctions and may threaten to close their own accounts in western countries. the decision was made not by china, but by the parties of the european union and the united states, thus trying to exercise sanctions pressure through the blocking of alternative channels in the form of the yuan, friendly countries. like brazil, india regularly say it's time to to abandon the dollar in mutual settlements, in fact, it is much more difficult to do this, the exchange of rubles for rupees or reals on the market, as a rule, does not occur directly, but through the dollar , as a result, according to the bank for international settlements, nine out of ten of all foreign exchange transactions, whatever one may say, takes place with the participation of the american currency. it is true that when we impose sanctions, then the strange ones who can become the subjects of these sanctions are motivated to look for other tools. than a dollar for calculations, but at the moment for many states there are no meaningful ways where the use of the us dollar as a reserve currency? a striking example
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of the calculations of russia and india, this country over the past year began to buy a lot of our goods, including oil. but indian exports to us are not so great and even decreased due to sanctions, as a result , billions of rupees have accumulated in russian bank accounts in indian banks, which moscow cannot yet exchange for another currency. every quarter, the amount of such money increases by up to $ 3 billion. bloomberg appreciated the problem and recognized the problem and foreign minister sergei lavrov is a problem. we need to use this money, but in order to do this, rupees need to be converted into another currency. and it is now being discussed that the supply of gray import goods to russia is also progressing with difficulties. the kommersant newspaper has recently found out that armenian kazakh and hong kong banks, due to the risk of us sanctions, began to block payments for servers, chips, processors and other electronics for legal entities from russia, suppliers are trying get out of the situation, but in six months the situation risks becoming completely unpleasant and.
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the problems began neatly after the state department expressed dissatisfaction with the fact that some countries resell western goods to russia , the perpetrators were named by name and hinted that it was time to end this by the beginning of this year. russia has been able to re-import some key categories of electronics, around the pre-war level, circumvention of russian sanctions remains a significant problem for the us in washington identified the problem, and so i'm going to kazakhstan, so i'm going to georgia, armenia, other places. we have groups that let's send aleksey nikolaevich to turkey , will the americans be able to, well, the americans will basically push it further, or will it be a constant game of cat and mouse. here they are trying to put the squeeze on them. like they say well. but everyone goes from the back door and continues to do what they transfer profits to everyone, well, the game of cossack robbers begins. yes, that is, one channel is blocked russia will start looking for other channels. i think it will if they all have measures led there last february marty. immediately yes, and including sanctions
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against intermediaries, then it would be a serious measure and a disaster, but since it is stretched out in time there up to a month and a year, but there remains an opportunity for searching, but on the other hand, one must understand that this game of cossack robbers leads to an increase in the cost of these the goods we buy. here, but, and in the end i am absolutely convinced that the bypass channel will be found in this, there is no doubt, and this is a game of cat and mouse. and how long can it go on at all, because they say there until the eighteenth package before twentieth pack. all this can be done constantly or there is already some kind of i don’t know in five or six years. horizon when everything that can be tightened is tightened. that's the whole story with these cats and mice. this is in fact a symbol of import substitution, of course, because if, again, if it was a one-time serious blow, then, probably, there would have been an edge, i would say, but since the story is stretched out. we have time to look, firstly, for alternative ways, and secondly, to improve. production of those same
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spare parts there for equipment that are now banned there, electronics and so on. that is, uh, in fact, if you take it on a large scale, yes, strategic ones, in general, a serious incentive for the development of our industry. and so. uh, well, it certainly won't be a disaster. everyone is sure of this. it is absolutely. it is clear on the one hand, on the other hand, and the americans. europeans push themselves a large number of enemies. if we look at the map, we will see that the same azerbaijan or kazakhstan has no chance not to be friends with russia well, just a village environment. and the fact that in these countries all these stories will be perceived extremely negatively and the number of, uh, fans, the west in these countries will be reduced is also beyond doubt. and you can still a short amateurish question. why do we have such problems? with these national currencies , and why we cannot switch to the yuan and calmly somehow calculate through it. we jump all the time. as a result, the euro dollar was not even calculated. we crossed peter with china there, in general, yes with other countries.
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well, actually 80% 84% of all payments for goods in the commodity market. these are dollar bills. this is a given swift system and all countries, but the conclusion is that those under sanctions, but not very vomit, switch to yuan, yuan in dollars. uh, instead of 84%, the dollar, says five percent in trade flows and a settlement system in dollars. she is very comfortable. it's been around for years, and it's cheap and convenient, and it's being abandoned, but in the world. in general, do not tear. despite posture. eat. it doesn't matter, some big interstate things. there, maybe agree between countries. yes, that is, when there are two countries in the contract, those who sell, and those who buy, respectively , well, our trade is still not the state trading, but a bunch, a bunch of all sorts of companies that are more convenient to work can come up with related schemes .
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anything can be said with a word, but the business is really yellow t-shirts, the leaders of the eat you said that all this will be, including import substitution, in our decision. first, with regard to the terms you know very briefly during the great patriotic war. we'll say sidorokokfak vershigor called others partisans, and the germans called bandits, so this is a question from the point of view. if you think that sanctions against russia are some kind of fair punishment. and it's all right. well, then the supply to russia of goods that are prohibited by the west. eh, probably, you can call it a smuggler, he still understood everything perfectly, yes, he explains, he speaks about those, i am not a specific person. do you think that and this is all, uh, political issues. all these restrictions and what it's meant to be
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in order to limit the development of russia and the russian economy, and russia is taking the necessary measures to protect its economic interests, including then this is called parallel import. that is, it is purely. here are the terms. they are connected with the point of view. now, as to, uh, effect and intent. actually western, of course, americans and europeans are well aware that these measures will not lead to the collapse of the russian economy in the near future or even in 10 years they target something else you think you already understand. this. it seems to me that they initially understood when they adopted five and the sixth, fourth and first package of sanctions, when you take it very seriously to remember that barack obama said back in the fifteenth year that the russian economy was obviously torn to pieces. well, you think that barack obama and his administrations did not understand that this is not the case, otherwise they are acting very,
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uh, systematically with the obvious goal of slowing down russian development to such an extent that russia in the future in 5 years in 10 years will not could not compete with them in the economic sphere, where russia is really not a competitor to the united states in russia does not compete with europe the united states economically many political, if the russian economy is subject to a massive blow of this kind for a long time. the ability of the police to arm, as it has been done for the last 10-15 years, is not even sinking in, as regards import substitution in order to carry out import substitution. we already have serious problems. it doesn't go far as smoothly as we were counting on dividers, and in order to effectively carry out import substitution for import substitution itself, it is also necessary, no matter how strange it may sound. we have western technologies with machine tool building, that there are huge difficulties in others, you understand that in order to replace imports, we need the same western
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technologies in order to build our own, we need some kind of from there, and yes, they try to interfere , they will get sick. well, understand today a-a in the sources of technology. it's far away today not the us and europe, a huge source of technology is today south korea , which finds quite effective means of supplying this to russia as a huge source of technology. today, in a number of sectors , china has become very interested in all this history in order to become their main technological impetus for development with us. e technology can i give you one example, here there was a monopoly in the world for the production of
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ultra-high e-lift cranes, a crane in which tower such tower and right here, uh, on caterpillars moving like this, it means that the only country in the world produced such screens with a carrying capacity of over 140, germany generally specializes in investment construction. so only recently in the urals they made it with a carrying capacity of 200 tons. you need to understand that a technological crane is more complex than a space rocket. here, to be clear. the main thing is that it works. sorry , it works, andryushechka. i understand that it hurts you, but it works in what it is today. well , maybe i listened to you with horror, well, i listened, a
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today, this plant received 60 orders for this crane, and the production volume is four, which means that the question is not in technology, but in the fact that it needs to be quickly deployed and scaled up, of course, and who is who saudi arabia, the united arab emirates say the guys similarly, i can cite. an example with another government, probably already in, or if it is possible, then we need to stop, about the next hour, we will continue a small pause. do not miss the events and people of the week in the central television is preparing more armed groups to overthrow the government in minsk, how could this end after the deployment of russian nuclear weapons on the territory of belarus, this game is no longer just with fire, but with nuclear fire, even after the visit of the american secretary of state to china, the disagreements between
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the nbc channel. he reports that for biden's advisers, the fact that he somehow badly expressed the neighbor was an absolute surprise. and no one at all waited did not think did not guess forced to report and representatives of the state department. that too, whatever. here's how softer softer softer. it shouldn't come as a surprise that we have skyner differences and divisions, and the president believes diplomacy is the responsible way to manage tensions, clear up misunderstandings, and avoid miscalculations. but the swedish authorities in the swedish prosecutor's office are taking new heights. you remember, the one who promised to complete the investigation along the northern streams, somewhere closer to autumn. now they say that if there is no indictment, they will not publish the materials. do that is, if the culprit of a specific no one is going to show the material and the investigation , moreover, the swedish prosecutor has already classified part of the materials of this case. why was it done? what is the reason for this is not specified
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. swedish journalists from the expresson publication have already presented to the public who they consider to be the culprit of undermining the northern streams. why, no matter how such a switchman , you can’t call a serviceman in another way his name is valery kolesnik it is stated that he comes from dnepropetrovsk and here are the swedish magazines. and they say that it was he who was responsible for renting the andromeda yacht, which , according to this western version, went somewhere to the northern streams and left a huge amount of explosives there. well actually. this completely contradicts the seimaru's investigation. hershey, who says that us authorities and intelligence agencies are directly responsible for undermining moreover, even the agent and the undesirable belling-kett organization. here is the swedish the version with some ukrainian serviceman seemed pretty funny. they write that at the time of the explosion he was in the ninety- third brigade. e of the armed forces of ukraine and cannot be connected with sabotage in any way. well, this is adrianovich about bellen. kat is a standing clock showing the correct time twice a day. i'm not just trying to understand all this time, that's
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all i said. it was this bullet that called. he needed to account for something. he replied that it never mind and so on. the kind even, as would he and him no. i i just don’t know, well, they didn’t ask follow-up, clarifying questions. that's what it means. your answer here's how you and i, andrey vladimirovich, let us pester, when we don't understand the answer or it's not accepted there, well , diplomacy is a responsible way to manage tension, clear up misunderstandings and avoid miscalculation that you repeated it a second time. you are bad. lesha or what? don't know? okay, let's go, here's what we 'll do. an interesting point that i would like to develop is in the previous part of the discussion, when victor joseph said that western countries initially understood that sanctions would not deal a crushing blow to our economy. well, here too. in general, there was some kind of disagreement. in general , i also probably disagree. i think initially. they thought about it completely differently. e and that's why, then
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they began to recognize. what yes , something is not working right, it does not cause serious damage. we have some parallel damage. for those who, in fact, these sanctions are being introduced, and plus there is a story with financial support for ukraine that in parallel, with the reduction of new sanctions against us, it did not stop, they gave ukraine more and more money. i don't want to say that some kind of insight has now come. well, you know, a little bit of an eye. with a bow , circumstantial evidence slowly begins to open up. the fact that all the money from the common cash desk of the european union was lowered to help ukraine was reported by the hungarian authorities, they were indignant that brussels was pulling another 50 billion from the europeans and again for the ukrainians, but the hungarians themselves did not get cents from the common canary. although they were also promised financing, the european union asks for money from the member countries, that is, because of the financing of the war and
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ukraine, the eu cash desk is empty. therefore, the budget. it is necessary to add several tens of billions additionally, the largest part will go to further financing of ukraine , which will be 50 billion euros. why is hungary there if the most generous sponsor of the european union, germany , through the mouth of its finance minister, openly declares that there is no money needed for additional contributions to the common treasury, they say. we have enough problems ourselves, we need to save the economy, so it’s not up to ukraine indeed there is a recession, but we have. we must return to price stability , this cannot be achieved if the state spends more money for its economy, they are worried and the british press scare the kingdom's debt with astronomical figures, it is approaching three trillion pounds and for the first time since 1961. exceeded the country's gdp for the year, government borrowing has
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more than doubled; citizens do not have enough money to pay for utilities and loans. what kind of ukraine is the latest data for april showing that inflation was 8.7, but this is an improvement and the first time since august last year. it fell below 10. the number of adults having difficulty paying bills and debt rose to almost 11 million. more than 11% of adults in the uk missed paying bills or loans for a period of three to six months. well, it suddenly turned out that nato's arsenals were lowered. because of too active assistance to ukraine, jens, stoltenberg, now demands to urgently increase the production of weapons and ammunition, but again there is no money for this, the old fascists and the head of euro-diplomacy jose barrel complains that the eu does not have enough materials for the production of shells, and it is expensive to buy them, for example, lithuania was left without weapons at all, gave the old one
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to the ukrainians, and it cannot acquire a new one, this requires the fastest possible acquisition of the necessary weapons and infrastructure expansion equipment. we will not be able to do all this with the current funding. so yanochka how are you? explain why such a general whining about, i doubt it very much, because you can pull a quote, as you like, and you are in the other direction special attention to hungary not professionally we work or vice versa, professionally propagandize. yes, there is an explanation. and as for hungary, there is a very simple explanation. hungarians are crying that the european union does not give them money, not because all the money went to ukraine, but because the european union accuses the hungarians of corruption. so is that the presidents of his and his power. so to speak, his close circle is this money. to put it mildly, various forests are being plundered with whom, and until they have accepted, i agree with you that everyone from ah wait, please, each of
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the opponent states has its own reason for being. but when all this merges into a chorus. that's why everything at once, uh, it's somehow uncomfortable that you have such problems . i don't, but i also had. you know , when. meru, when barrel says that we do not have enough money, we do not have enough funds for production, and then he says, therefore, we urgently need to increase this. we need to find funding from the budgets. i will talk about it and i should not hear you beard rubs a little microphone a little bit, if you step back, yes, let's try again colleagues, 1, 2. yes. go on, let's do it again then. ah, accordingly, the brel says that it is urgent to increase the production of shells to billions a year, and for this money is needed in order to expand production capacities. he does not say that oh, there is no money, how are we going to live now. he says, no, we need more money. no, meet these costs. so let's try and quickly
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some kind of modernization and substitution in some industry, the usual representatives of the pro-western liberal camp. guys, it's impossible. when they say the same thing, respectively, westerners do the same. at the same time, they nod that they do not have the money or time, or power, or materials for this, the same liberal pro-western experts begin to speak. yes, this is all nonsense, everything is fine. as victor himself rightly said at the beginning it all depends on the sights that you look at if you support europe and the west smuggling. and all that is clear means, uh, yan yanych with all due respect, if you open the european press, you can’t read the russian press, we have already been told this many times, as andrei vladimirovich said. yes, just then what is the object. uh, respectively, studying nothing more than respected opponents. i understand, yes, it's not us talking about how bad they are. this is what they say, but they don’t have enough money, they really don’t have enough. but that doesn't mean
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they don't have enough for everything. explain to me. you very often, by the way, before brought. uh, like in the uk, when did they say there were problems? can you explain what happened here? that's how big the role is here, i don't know, pump it up. not with the money of ukraine or is it some other thing about the uk there, really, look at the rating, including the conservative government, which is consistently low for some reason, because there are serious claims, because there are a lot of problems that have been accumulating for years on the one hand because of canned food- uh, for politics conservatives, on the other hand , these anti-russian sanctions. they led to this a combination of factors, it is impossible to say that there is some reason for growth, there are also energy carriers. there's a cost-of -living crisis you don't want, seriously a cost-of -living crisis. and, therefore, not only the uk means germany, they will officially catch inflation there, but the study that spiegel began to hold, and it says that the germans themselves perceive this inflation as under 20 there 18 with what - a percent. that is. well, naturally
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naturally, but people, this is the most. the main thing is that they are everything else. that is not all nonsense to say. no, of course, as they have a large deposit. but we finally, listen, well, because we are professional propagandists. well, how far are we being hinted here? we understand that there is no such thing, it is not there. can all these factors listed above influence, er, the general financial policy of the european union in the direction of some, of course, they can. look at him correctly sergeevich what did he say that biden, america is trying there show this solidarity and then agree that they pull out more money. they invested well there, but any country, of course, tries to give less of its own, as it were, everything is clear. i want to have the same question here. will there be some kind of change of some kind, firstly, you need to understand that here is
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the money for which they said that there is no money. this is veterinary, first of all, about what is called the peace fund, where did they finance it from? uh, supplies from ukraine yes in this fund. now very little money concerned, but this is not the eu budget again let's make a distinction. this is a general part of the eu budget oriented administration in germany speaks about e-reviews in germany as if there is a recession, but this is not a crisis at all. sorry, in german families , payments for neftegaz bu for heating for gas fell four times four times in the first year, hot weather and only due to this the economy got out in may. what are we talking about, because we always want it to freeze there, it's difficult this year, right? it seems that here we very often have those
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who are called propagandists, they talk about russophobia in the west, about anti-russian sentiments in the west, but when it comes to how far, how far the west is ready to go and what sacrifices for the sake of anti-russian actions, all of a sudden, the same people who say all this, it turns out , which seems to be that they, perhaps, somehow do not really believe in it themselves. but in vain. i mean, it’s in vain that the level of anti-russian sentiment in the west is so high, not because the russians say so, but it’s really that high they are really ready westerners and americans europeans are ready. to make certain sacrifices in order to inflict russia, that is, a swabbi burgher is ready to pay three times more on the bill, but in order to make things worse in filthy russia, no more. seriously we have experience. of course, i don't have an answer. i’m trying to imagine the past of the cold war, when sometimes the fifties were not yet completed, not restored to europe , when there were
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still people in belgium and in some other countries on cards, but this was at the end when they bought food in england forties early fifties, and they were already spending huge amounts of money on confronting the soviet union even now. yes we are in the scene of a new cold war by the west and they are ready. i am not ready to spend money on the economic damage to russia, germany, as in france, as in russia, there are people with different views, dear guests. oh no, we're out of time. but about this one, it can be a little strange and obstinate, which some western countries demonstrate. we'll talk in more detail the next part of the program is in a few minutes. killed my son came to visit those who made it offensive to pass.
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the meeting place on ntv, the place where everything becomes clear. we continue. when i just said before a pause that not some european countries demonstrate such a slightly mysterious obstinacy. i meant, of course, the obstinacy of the anti-russian and the country that adheres to the revelation of others of this line. i think you will agree with me, and first of all, of course , it is poland, so we wanted to talk about it now at this hour, but first in a few posts by ivan which concerns here is today's memorable date in our country. yes, you started the program today with the fact that today is june 22, memorial day and soon you will have many events. here, the actions of the all-russian candle of memory as part of this action on june 22 at four in the morning near the main temple of the armed forces of russia, 1,418 candles were lit, one candle for each day of the great patriotic war, these candles were lit from the flame of the eternal flame. on mamaev kurgan
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, a particle of this fire was delivered the day before from volgograd; also on thursday night , a memorial service was held in the temple of the armed forces and divine liturgy in memory of the victims of the great patriotic war. well, we called the action the all-russian candle of memory, although, in fact. it is such a worldwide more than a million people in different countries. one way or another, they took part in it in berlin. the action was held in the tirgan park on the territory of the memorial in memory of the soviet soldiers of liberators in bishkek, in honor of the day of remembrance, the activists lit 1418 candles, an action of memory. also held in madrid, the russians gathered at the monument to soviet soldiers in the cemetery. in our disposal. there are also footage from the russian embassy in the united states. here you can see the russian went anatoly antonov spoke about plans to erect a monument to the heroes of the fatherland directly on the territory of the embassy. well , employees of the russian embassy in moldova laid flowers at the eternal fire. at
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the chisinau memorial, this event was there for eternity, especially symbolic. why on horseback the moldovan authorities decided to cancel the celebration of may 9th victory day now on may 8th, they will celebrate there. i even here complex names memorial day and reconciliation in honor of the fallen during the second world war, as the parliament itself. it was discussed there objection not accepted let's start the meeting and listen. aven , you are silent, we have many academic specialists who can provide information to deputies who had poor grades at school. they didn't teach our history. we must respect history, if we had may 9, we must celebrate may 9 as the day of victory, i propose to give a negative conclusion to this initiative. understood your point of view of a wonderful trip to st. petersburg and tel aviv madam lavlakh. and the russian military historical society for the first time published in russian the so-called
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famine plan. this is a document that was prepared by nazi germany with the aim of exterminating the peoples of the soviet union ; this document was officially called the directive of economic policy, but of the economic headquarters. it was posted on the portal of history. the rf now plan is dated may 23, 1941. he assumed the extermination of 20 to 30 million inhabitants of the soviet union due to the total export. from the territory of our country and understandably depopulation, the occupied territories with the subsequent resettlement of the germans there, the document was found by the americans in the papers of the wehrmacht high command, it appeared, including at the nuremberg trials. this is how we slowly approached the historical part and approached this anti-russian itch, and which is directly pursuing the current polish leadership in recent years. he uh
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. well, because it seems to contradict. e logic. here, look, there the same president duda and president zelensky, and the polish ukrainians, they like to hug in public, and there they declare that these two countries are friends, allies, partners, and whatever. at the same time, all the time, some kind of abscesses burst on the surface, to put it mildly, and in relations between poland and ukraine, abscesses that are connected with what happened, but in the middle of the last century, nevertheless, it means here the poles continue, uh, use ukraine to achieve their own goals, as far as this is the correct policy. well, a policy that brings such results. i don't know , let's take a look at some of the recent scandals between poland and ukraine have taken to understand what actually in general, how this mechanism works.
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about a month ago, a conflict flared up between poland and ukraine over the volhynia massacre in 1943-44 in warsaw, they are waiting for repentance from kiev for the mass extermination of poles by ukrainian nationalists during the great patriotic war, the press secretary of the polish ministry of foreign affairs lukashi yesin demanded that the president poisoned. zelensky publicly apologized during his visits to poland, the ukrainian state did not do this, but president zelensky should take on more responsibility, as president of ukraine zelensky was offended by a diplomat out of sin, fired away, but the conflicts between ukraine and poland did not end there, the head of the institute of national in memory of ukraine, anton drobovich demands that the polyakov completely restore the memorial plaque and the list of ufa wars, which, according to him, bravely fought and died in battle with the nkvd at forty in the fifth year, the monument was erected near the village of verhata, and according to the ukrainians, it was destroyed by polish vandals 3 years ago , now ukraine presents an ultimatum to the poles until poland restores the original
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state of the monument, it is impossible to agree to new excavations and exhumation of poles buried in ukraine because ukrainian graves are in poland are still under the threat of poles, such impudence seriously angered, especially since just now poland is preparing for large-scale events dedicated to the eightieth anniversary of the volyn with a massacre, the polish foreign ministry put pressure on the patient and made it clear that until ukraine apologizes for war crimes, it will not enter the european union. yes, we do not want one statement of one declaration of one apology. we want this case to be resolved in a comprehensive and long-term way, we are talking about more than one statement to carry out an exhumation and pay tribute to the memory of the victims. this is a very important point. at the moment the situation is not satisfactory. i cannot imagine that ukraine will not resolve this issue before joining the european union here it is not very clear to me, because on the one hand, this list is mutual. uh, these mutual claims. it is much
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longer than what we have just given. here's the other side. we know that, probably, most of the foreign mercenaries who are now fighting on the side of the armed forces are poles, and maksim anatolyevich here is how to explain this. it turns out that the problems are all mutual claims, there are resentments, phobias, but now they are deliberately relegated to the background by both sides, because and those and others hate russia and russians much more than each other. that is, the poles minus by minus gives a plus. yes, that is, absolutely pragmatically, how durable can they be , how to say yes? well, until it's over. here, uh, roughly speaking, the hot stage of the conflict in ukraine, our our conflict, they will have an alliance. and more will be the most reliable and allies of ukraine as a guide of ukraine and the lobbyists of ukraine in
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the euro-atlantic structures, then they will already be the latter, we do not take seriously. this is a threat that ukraine will never the eu will join until it sorts out its historical ones there, firstly, there are more serious forces than more, which in the depths of their souls do not really want to see ukraine forever. you are a dependent in the european union there, husband, germany, holland, are more likely to object. here at some point. if suddenly sometime it reaches the final stage, but here, probably the poles will raise the question. well, it will be a different situation, because the current ukraine is at war with us. nobody will accept. that is, now, in principle, yes, when it moves aside, well, roughly speaking for the russian cargo, when they deal with it, as they hope, then everything will be clear to you later. you absolutely. naturally yes these contradictions, of course. there is between poland and ukraine, but as long as there is a common goal, a common enemy. uh, they
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will be retouched, they will be in every possible way for me later, when it's over. uh, these parties will accept these two parties. eh, some point of view one or not? somehow the second still has an aspect that i just wanted to say until then there is still a very large video some external orbitor, an external hegemot, is playing. it's either brussels, the center of the european union, or it's the united states, because as long as these two forces can somehow quarrel a little more, they all say, come on guys, go there. and, by the way, lukas esin , who spoke here, he has already, in my opinion, been sent to an open-ended project. yes, we even say that it is, because, as far as there is known, and insiders. here inside. the poles have this feeling of sensation. but when it begins to break through and threatens with some kind of small-scale conflict. it's all here starts intensity. can it happen that before the hostilities it somehow breaks out here or you completely exclude it completely solidarity maxim
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anatolyevich that while there are russian weapons against which you can take up arms, and they will forget about all this in any case. i'm in the most painful. it’s just that i’ll add it too, it turns out, how a little bit wrong, if the poles are all so cool, so we want to be the main one in europe ourselves, but then some khokhlyatsky figure blurts out something and they have their ambitions there. well, somehow it doesn’t fit in, it doesn’t want to. the fact is that the poles, of course, remember all this, and they really have ambitions, but they still have certain goals in relation to ukraine to create a new speech to the commonwealth. so, when they create it, including with the help of an external behemoth, then all these shotguns and others will be in their place, then they are waiting for their yes, absolutely, and there are all the prerequisites for this. there is already a cultural expansion going on. polish is studied in schools. to the same population will be. well, soon it will actually be semi-poles, there will be a completely different ideology. a new speech, a new euro commonwealth. and so on gradually , this topic of the volyn massacre is quietly. if the poles prevail over this space more than belorussia added,
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it will not withdraw. and what's wrong, will this one explode into contradictions or not? depends on whether we can e with us. and that's all we can try to do. e to convey to people. this is a discrepancy, because it is really correct. everyone says that all these contradictions mean, and connected with the historical with the historical pain of historical truth, they are strenuously extinguished or over the years. so let's all understand perfectly well that in the west they understand very well, and in israel they understand very well that they also contradict ukraine there . yes, everything else about bandera, which means that in poland and poland everyone understands very well that in ukraine these are all the comrades are a pillar on which it rests, including all the talk about the independence of ukraine, now this militias is all these comrades who mean they slaughtered jews were also killed. and polyakov and anyone. they are heroes, they are given military honors, so, uh, a street is named after them. so in the cities. this indicates that they are erected with monuments, this is an ideological pillar about the kiev regime. and when you say, can it be that some kind of position means
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to win some side, yes, and everyone will agree. this can be two cases, either bandera will come to power in poland because it is incredibly true, or it means that ukraine will change the kiev regime without changing the kiev regime. this situation is never will change. why if some remains there? well, a piece of ukraine is there, i don't know some. yes, the poles take it for themselves and build it in their own image and likeness. well, now ukraine is the entire ukrainian society from small to large. all this during the aftermath of his euromaidan and the dialogic ones lined up in concepts that it is our heroes to turn this situation upside down? it will just be so difficult. okay listen. there are a lot of colors in the picture. uh, ukrainian society travels 80% of us to work in poland to pick apples and strawberries and greens. and yet they hate them. well , listen, well, yes, and that and then they will agree under the polish pas. again somehow there under their rules that's just the point. what is not.
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wait, wait until the depths of history, but i'm coming back, like thoughts that i started and didn't finish. the fact is that everyone understands perfectly well that this is the polytechnic university. this is nazism for me , for me nazism, which really exists in ukraine. yes, here in propaganda means the promotion of all these things. this is political technological nazism, not nazism, that ukraine in order to to fight with russia against russia must be allowed to continue to do this. that is why all this is here. uh, trying to shove it far away far away and what tasks just did show and say here a few days ago. i don't know if it's true or not. i did not see verified sources distributed, supposedly the comment of the israeli ambassador to ukraine means that about bandera the speech of everyone else, we showed it as a video of this video. yes, he was on the israeli air, that in plain text this is a nazi, right? yes, it means kyiv bezhim praises the nazis and supports, but since ukraine is afraid of russia, it means, but you understand, what
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a thing. this is actually the official position of the entire institution and should be went yes should express the official position of the state. he confessed to this approach of the west and our task is to show ordinary people in the west in israel in poland and other countries. here, look at your western sleeves. this is the only way to play, for sure the photo that is now in social networks tusk arrives in lviv, where people are kneeling meet donald, dim. there is no particular hatred there, poland is very respected there. this is an established powerful state. many ukrainians. they want to become poles. yes, exactly. there were also ramparts from the root back of the polish city, a mess was practically yes , alexander nikolaevich was taking shape. so, what is the future of this polish ukrainian union like here for us? a single laser , in my opinion, said, yes, that they would unite there into one
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country, something like that, well, firstly, if we start from this and talk about unification into one country, then this is an association it will be all the same and first of all, infrastructure, and on the basis of capital that will come to poland and then will be invested in ukraine on the one hand and on the other hand. it will be, uh, a certain cultural influence. or maybe just call it absorption. it is clear who by absorption, probably not, because uh, firstly, poland is unlikely to pull. well, no, well, a piece. yes, that's the closest one to yourself , this is about a piece. this, of course, is russia's blue dream of dividing ukraine from poland today. yes, yes, yes, but this is a dream. it is absolutely not redundant and from my point of view. this dream should be abandoned, that we will take here, well, for me , an ordinary, of course, this is it. uh, just, yes.
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yeah from this. please explain, i don't know. and what is even more i will tell you and me. what is the benefit and the benefit to russia is completely direct, because thereby the disintegration of ukraine legitimizes. hmm, there is no point in discussing this, by the way, aleksandrovich in my opinion. there are also, it seems, even anecdotes. you know how the aliens wanted to attack the earth. well their ship is in orbit around the earth and there an alien small team commander comes to the main one and says, we are ready to attack poland, and he says. why is he talking about poland? well, on this planet, in principle, it always starts like this, because in fact, in fact, all this is when we say no. this is impossible.
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it can be assumed that in this situation. this is impossible, but there is a mass forum for the creation of several independent ukrainian states, one that will be puppet under poland, why did they eat it dreamers are these dreamers dreaming at all? here i am but at least there are some prerequisites when we talk about the future. about the future, this is political science, and in political science there is no evidence. but if we go back to the past, then we can say that this conversation about the volyn massacre is this polish ukrainian. eh, contradictions. this conversation is not from the fourteenth year. no, this is a conversation in the nineties, as the socialist system has cooled down. from this moment on. this is all exaggerated, the volyn massacre and everything else the poles are an absolute obsession, they
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will never leave, not a single politician. not you, not that right and justice is a civil platform. will never leave. this is what it is, so to speak, a much more liberal office has never left now. yes, for aesthetic reasons they, uh, do not force it. but again, here it is. uh , mida's press secretary yes, the former yes , now the former yes, what did he get, the former with the press secretary, mida, he is on the payroll and is waiting in the wings. this is called indefinite leave is called. here no one came out with it wolf tickets, probably everything is fine. duda talks all the time about the volyn massacre. he says, uh, this, if i'm not mistaken , they showed yablonsky. yes, this is the deputy minister of foreign affairs, who says this quite specifically, what the poles are doing, they are doing what they think is necessary, that is, and everyone in general, and on the whole, understands, in general, they understand and in europe they understand and in israel they understand and in
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why is europe the hyena ? she's such a mean snatch quietly a piece, so that all those were, so that i would protect myself in the period between the two world wars. in the last century, no more time was lost to cling to the weakened neighbors and the then leader of the user, pilsudski dreamed of his own empire between the sea, and the black and adriatic in the south, then the baltic in the north, and in order to capture more land in the east, the philosophical called it the restoration of the rech border commonwealth, he entered into an alliance with ukrainian nationalists against moscow following the results of the soviet-polish war in 1921 more acquired the western territories of ukraine and belarus the problem is that poland has polish years, there are more ambitions that go beyond its borders.
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so that its capabilities would be the first in europe who in 1934 signed a non-aggression pact with nazi germany for the third reich, the fact of pinsud hitler became a diplomatic breakthrough, concluding an agreement with hitler , actually put an end to the attempts of the western powers to put together an effective military-political union of the side against germany had to remain neutral if a party to the agreement will declare war on any third country, and uh. it is interesting that in this treaty there was an invitation to a secret proposal, according to which in the event that germany commits aggression against the friction of the country, then poland continues to adhere to neutrality, that is, in fact. poland has already become an accomplice of the aggressor. with such a silent accomplice of the aggressor, already in 1934 in the fall of 1938, germany announced
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plans to annex the judicial region of czechoslovakia, the ussr declared that it was ready to defend chekhov, the only thing for this warsaw's permission was required for the passage of our troops through polish territory. poland responded with a categorical refusal, threatening to declare war on the ussr, except for moscow , no one defended chekhov, and in september thirty-eighth in munich, britain, france , italy surrendered czechoslovakia to hitler and agreed, in fact, to all his demands, the czechoslovak delegation. even closer to the night before the fact, they were not invited to discuss gratitude for the pro-german position. he gave the poles the teshino region of czechoslovakia, the gift was more accepted with thanks to mikhail borisovich i understand that the questions would be, of course, so peculiar, but nevertheless, if it were not for this polish position. could the second world war turn somehow fundamentally differently, and especially its beginning on june 22. well, you know, i think that it is impossible
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to change the national psychology at all, therefore the polish one, especially, uh, it seems to me that this is our everlasting recollection of his behavior between the first and second world. all this can be deepened into a more ancient history that the same behavior of poland was in the xviii century in the seventeenth-sixteenth year, and the problem of polish statehood, failed empire. more is a failed empire with a huge one. here are the ambitions of those offended by their shadows, plus it must be said, look, the first world war and the second world war began, in fact, because of the problems that, uh, large states created in eastern europe. just in these here regions of the balkans poland czechoslovakia and so on. that's because all the boundaries are there all artificial all, but easily contested
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all with huge ambitions. uh, everyone wants to remake them. everyone remembers very well that they changed very often, so, uh, when they say that, uh, they don’t see any problems with the ukrainian statehood by dividing it , or they don’t see any problems with making more mistakes in the european union, and would be in what -something foreseeable future is again divided. well, it seems to me that these are also dreamers , or rather people who, well, do not know the historical outline well, but poland stumbled in its history, well, in almost every century. here, as soon as ambitious polish politicians begin to build at least some plans. and the order was given by the great mus- some kind of great poland is clearly noble there, and poland , so immediately this statehood ends
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with her death. here they are dismantled for parts. three empires are sometimes dismantled there. there, the german austro-hungarian and russian sometimes dismantle germany and the soviet union understand that similar times are now coming, because poland has made its choice in the sense that uh, poland well, what is called not in size and not, if possible, enter into big politics. it just turns out a little, as if you will be punished for this, as it were, a little ahead, because we were talking here about whether you can participate more in or ukraine . well, it can be fatal for her to participate in big world politics, because, of course, she can be promised some part of ukraine. but what is called, you also have to eat it, yes. here in this huge in the confrontation between the great powers and the poles
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, it always seems that the great powers are playing fair with it. and as a rule, it turns out that they are always deceived. moreover , they are deceiving, just their allies, those whom they trust most of all, look at deceiving the allied government, as was thrown as a result of several days of negotiations with stalin, the churchill. immediately surrendered and all the conditions of the soviet union were good, some kind of this phenomenon of this very, as i said obstinacy. if here you are, even you say, there once a century, they retreat all this to no one at all do not need anything. uh, what would happen if e could be, as the worst scenario, when the poles, together with hitler, would go against russia, which, by the way, redmigly dreamed of. well, yes, and pilsudski too, but there could be an option when the second world war or the great patriotic war would not have taken place at all, because germany would simply not have dared to attack or this war was limited to the sudetenland of the rhine region, something else could be a war in france in scandinavia there and
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so on here it is impossible to answer unambiguously, but indeed mikhail borisovich right in a way. why because poland became a victim during the second world war solely because she believed britain france and spoiled relations with germany she believed in her role, but i play a boar, but i would not. now the largest in the xix century. china was a very weak state, which was actually used as a colony, where the opium wars were held. and now it is a state that is challenging the hegemony of the united states and poland now, relying on external ones. e hegemons in the us brussels is there, she also plays very an important role in europe and and, in principle, this state is not so weak. the economy is very well developed there. they get subsidies for themselves. they kept their currency. they have a good army. the only thing is that maybe they are being prepared, like the second front against us after ukraine, yes. this is quite possible, so you should not immediately say that we will share it. yes, we do not say the only thing. i slightly disagree with your definition of victim. you once called her victims. it's not a sacrifice. this is the aggressor
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i tried to grab and it turned out. it's not a sacrifice. it's not a sacrifice. in that. they are very similar to ukraine, because there is some kind of competition, who suffered more, generally disappearance, so maxim no division of poland is on the agenda from the word, in general. poland is a serious opponent , which is now on the rise, politically behind them are the united states and great britain, the forces of present-day poland , unlike all previous versions of the polish state, this is its monotony, that is, there are no regions densely populated by others peoples, as it was between the two world wars, they absolutely do not need to repeat the mistakes of that poland between the two world wars and for some reason return lviv ternopil ivana-frankivsk, these regions will not be remembered by night, because they have already been taught by bitter experience . in political
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terms, they will have an impact on ukraine and not only on ukraine, as they hope, they have ambitious plans and, unfortunately for us. maxim is now how you can play after the twenty-fourth of february, such a big one. here is the maximum tell me please, how can they not be able to how can you realize your ambitions. so you say the poles have huge ambitions there, and not only there in ukraine , but also how can these ambitions be realized, if you do not expand the territory. the state as you were sitting there on your patch , but we are the most ambitious, but i'm trying to understand the nineteenth eighteenth century a small territory to control uh, much more they will not expand the territory and this is their weakening, such as switzerland which used to control small future finances.
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i understood, yes, but the main ambition of poland is, of course, this stirred up that they have existed in the national consciousness for five centuries. well, it’s just like this, the real slavic hatred of the russian state, that is, their task is us to destroy their task of the slavic you contradict yourself maxim anatolyevich if this hatred has sprung up and the desire to destroy this implies an expansion of the occupation of some territories. well, why? well, what will they be, even if that's even their hatred they dumped back to capture everything. already given to god from my experience as a boxer. when i went to warsaw as a reporter and filmed there, it was still some kind of seventeenth-eighteenth year. it would seem that everything is very far from a special operation, every second polish political scientist with whom i spoke when something about western ukraine came up . lvov lvov is a polish city of only non-poles. so far , maybe i, of course, did not choose those heroes. i don't know don't know yes or any
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person. i now i offend everyone very much you know how, because yes, because lviv is absolutely polish city in exactly the same way, when it is then when offended, it is enough to go there once in order to yes, so that it is completely art it's not about that. the fact is that today we are talking about the allocation of a certain center of eastern europe, the center of gravity of geopolitical eastern europe, for this, indeed , maxim is right. it is not at all necessary to attach new series, like in the seventeenth century. uh, here and raise a certain flag there, it can be anything, but it is quite obvious that post-soviet russia failed to cope with the function, but as a stabilizer and guarantor of security, but in eastern europe and the
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post-soviet space. and sometimes they start such a task before themselves, they did not set themselves such a task. she aspired herself. the so-called senior partners. uh, that's a task that failed, one instability from russia's interpretation did not work out. uh-huh, respectively , always the older partners constantly, then unstablely made this border. and that means, sometimes it seemed that ukraine was claiming this role, uh, hardly for today day. it can be said that ukraine is capable, and for such a role, accordingly , it remains to be considered now more as a stabilizer as the main center of gravity of eastern europe, when the headphones of the city group created this, too, all in this piggy bank quietly. yes, it will turn into a kind of association like the scandinavian ones. well, of course, only in contrast to the unification
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task, a few more facts. i said, here we will bring, and the last autumn edition of the speech. slept there reported that the poles want e return. e from the czech republic is part of the territory that warsaw considers its own. we are talking about a microscopic area in the north of the country of three and a half square kilometers. but these are several warsaw quarters. here we have drawn on the diagram, and the poles have been repeating their claims to these lands since the fifties, because from their point of view, they received these three square kilometers illegally after the second world war. further, with regard to the lands of western ukraine, we will again burn ourselves, the polish press, the pdp publication, believes that these land could be a good compensation for the military and material support that warsaw provides to the zelensky regime well, about reparations. it must, of course, be said, this is also one of the favorites, themes demands of us. they promised to calculate the money for the soviet occupation by the fall and put up a price tag. here, and from
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germany, the poles demand more than six trillion zlotys. if you count it in dollars, but this is a little less than one and a half trillion dollars, although, again, according to polish estimates. these are small plates. amount of 1.3 trillion euros this is a fairly conservative calculation of the requirement. warsaw should be five or even 10 times higher. i would like to see some changes in the germans' historical consciousness and sense of responsibility for what happened during world war ii. so antonchik looks like an attempt to stabilize the situation in the east. let's try everything that has been said. let's have another picture. yes , because the puzzle was formed, then ivan sergeevich spoke. e, asked a question, and poland in the last century. and it so happened with us in the official historiography that poland is a victim. which was attacked, because everything was good in argentina of our influence, just as it was no longer
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a victim, the polish people were a victim , it was no longer a victim. poland tried to play its game. and they called her a hyena there, maybe some other predator, but a small one, who decided that he was a lion. he tried to maneuver and, strictly speaking, did not even in the czechoslovak section. actually, this is a very important reason. this was the reason or reason for the heteran's fall to poland. the question was originally there. give build e highway. which would be, according to the principle of territoriality, and the railway, that is, the question would seem to be absolutely trifling, but uh, poland means it decided that it is so great that it is now the polish cavalry, if something reaches berlin, therefore and in unleashing the second world war, and even more so the great patriotic war, since these are the consequences, right? no less degree lies on poland than on those who concluded the munich agreement there, then the same, no less, the polish people. i say again the victim is no more. it was rightly said that at different historical uh
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periods. poland tried to grab something , tried to be the instigator like this then and got it in the teeth. yes and so, well, the wrong conclusion is that she will now, as it were , act in the same way, this is wrong. that's because all those periods were no longer under the hood today, poland is not only under the umbrella, but it is actually under the hood to some extent, with zhenya limiters and poland's independence , that's what the united states allows them to do in a frame, then they do beyond that frame. they won't come in. there is one problem regarding. uh, that means, with regard to, for example, reparations, this question, in my opinion, is exclusively in the plane of propaganda, moreover , propaganda a addressed to the polish voter. well, this year is very important, it can be selective, of course, you say no one on the radio, of course, will not give it. now, with regard to the division of ukraine, i agree with my colleagues here, the fact is that in the 21st century, it
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is much more profitable to put a political control territory in fact to manage this territory or military-political control. well, that is, for example, to send troops to parts of the territory, supposedly under protection. yes, we have troops. and for example, there, uh, america is located, for example, in the european union, and this is supposedly protection of military facts, in fact, this is military-political control, including structures, the same thing is needed . poland can turn around. ukraine but again, this does not mean the seizure of the territory sections of the territory and, accordingly, you know this forcibly, you know why why it is unprofitable to consider it, some stabilizer or not, stop, it sounded like, uh, so the western senior partners wanted russia to be a stabilizer, but in russia it didn’t work out, to which i objected that if they wanted russia to be a stabilizer , which means, that is, as it were, the center of forces, they in general it was they in general, firstly, well, at
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the edges we didn’t blow everything up in e. so, accordingly, in russia they did not try to interfere in the matter. and moreover, why does the united states need a center of power with their own hands, the same from poland is not. poland plays its own role. okay, i understand you. let's just now everything is correct, except for one who wants to be a stabilizer to play this role. yes, but unlike the compartment of historical periods. it is under complete control and by control is not very complete control is not very complete. uh, step to the left, step to the right, no escape . you can even cook out of the constitutional court . in general, they give everything, especially since poland now feels e behind its back. uh, the united states that gives them the opportunity gives them this pocket, because on this or that all the same, to become like this, as we have before. here is the original element, just the stabilization is right on the green. he
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can arrange in his region. that's in order in its own way. yes, this is where he can reach, where he can reach , relatively speaking, all the extended vyshnegrad group will remain. it means that she couldn’t, but could put, relatively speaking, the unification of a certain rzeczpospolita, which has its own armed forces, like this one, ukraine, not so to speak. the very abbreviation is very subtle, yes, then it will be possible to talk about it, and depending on whether the united states will give them a map plan for this. why not? actually? why won't they give it if there are problems with him in the united states? we are from germany to eat there with other countries very problem with my grandfather. yes, there is a decision to be made. i definitely pushed maxim to one thought that upset me very much. that's when he said absolutely right that poland is now under the hood of the united states , but i thought that this was already in history that poland was under the hood of a much
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more powerful power napoleonic france semi, such a semi-polish was, but believe me. i studied very carefully. uh, this is the history of the napoleonic wars, if there hadn’t been more , but napoleon hadn’t made this fatal mistake and would not have gone to russia and would not have destroyed his empire and it was the poles, the second polish war began and was called this the second campaign along which we call the first patriotic war the second polish campaign. and now, no matter how something similar happened, because the americans think that everything is under their control, but the poles have a unique gift even for their patrons in catastrophic stories. oh yeah repulse. this is a very dangerous topic and we need it. let's try to answer the question now. how do we well or not we avoid. that 's good. let's
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call and order a knee brace. move easily from lamax for only 999 rubles. call us right now and you will get a second knee pad. move easily, absolutely free of charge, call by phone or order on our website leomax.ru. please, uh, answer this question. so, how is there a way to curb this hyena of europe so that the poles do not drag, including their patrons, into some kind of adventure like the napoleonic campaigns there, so mikhailsovich. i think that we don’t need to do anything at all for this, the political class has always done everything for all its neighbors , always put their statehood in the basement, so i think that this time they
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to one degree or another, they will harm themselves, so the neighbors just have to wait for the right moment for the polish state to fall apart on its own, so konstantin, you know, i would support and recall one more word, they were drawing, which are all about the hyena. he said much better he said about poland he speaks about poland he said never the bravest of the brave was ever found. here under the guidance of such vile freaks. but this is the combination when the bravest brave man turns out thicker. this will only lead to the fact that they themselves will build everything themselves, everything is destroyed and everything is safe. unfortunately, this may offend others, including bogdan anatolyevich's neighbors. there is a small group of intellectuals in poland who treat russia rationally. that is good. in our understanding, a follower of domovsky's novel. they even have their own newspaper polish thought polish thought. now, if by some miracle, as a result of some geopolitical events, a catastrophe, or something else, they come to power in poland, then we
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will have normal relations. at least for for some time, but certainly in order for these relations to normalize , more changes in the policy of historical memory were required, because the whole aga position. poland is absolutely not rational. it is based on feeling. that's exactly the historical injustice and all that i read this book, a mobilized nation. i won't recommend it. the author has a specific one for her, but there are interesting details in forty. the third year when the germans. they dug up the cats exhumed there the bodies of death with rubbed hands, because the photographs were really spectacular. at first he used it for such anti-soviet propaganda in the west, he could see what advice the beasts are. she did all this, as with one efficiency or another, and then for the time being she decided to show it to the internal audience, they say to the germans, so that they could see what kind of beast we germans are fighting, and then she sat down in an absolute puddle, because before that he is 6 years old. even seven told the germans that the poles are subhuman. and actually kill them. this is good, so the internal police recorded such moods, some dead poles, but even if someone killed them for us,
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he just helped us and made an example from a book. i can't boast with such examples. i'm all about jokes. i once told you that the vast majority of polish jokes are polish. it is, well, such one and not very good national features. today. there is another reason for the same anecdote to recall two germans talking. one says, can you imagine, let's go here with his wife to poland , is it a vacation by car or what? well, yes, and on what did they return back? it was the meeting place which cannot be changed, 14:00 will be nifiga ntv day of remembrance and sorrow 82 years ago, fascist germany attacked the soviet union without declaring war gosfilmofond
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