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are there any scenarios in which america will abandon ukraine we are not engaged in diplomacy new enemy president biden put an end to his secretary of state's conciliatory visit to beijing what a crushing blow america is preparing to strike china china remains vulnerable to this day, watch right now. hello, is this the meeting place on ntv, the place where everything becomes clear? i'm andrey norkin. my colleague is ivan trushkin. we are working live, and we will start today right here with very fresh hadrs, and received from the kremlin today vladimir putin is right in the very heart, and the capital and heart of russia on the cathedral square of the kremlin, he turned to the military and forgive the law enforcement officers, who, as he said, helped last saturday. uh, to stop the war ball of his
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speech, his speech began with a moment of silence in memory of the pilots who died during the mutiny towards. let's look at the footage . about 2,500 fighters came to the meeting with the president. they also represented a division of the ministry of defense and the russian guard of the fsb, the federal service protection. putin called them real defenders of the fatherland, who stood up together with their comrades at a difficult time for the country. on the path of unrest, the result that would inevitably be chaos, let 's listen to a fragment of vladimir putin's speech, you defended the constitutional order, the life of security and the freedom of our citizens, saved our homeland from shock , actually stopped the civil war. in a difficult situation, you acted in a well-coordinated manner and proved your loyalty to the people
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of russia and the military oath. have shown responsibility for the fate of the motherland and its future. happiness, the ministry of defense, the russian guards, employees of the ministry of internal affairs and special services ensured the reliable operation of the most important control centers of strategic, including defense facilities , the security of border regions, the strength of the rear of our armed forces of all military formations that continued at that time heroically fighting at the front. we didn't have to shoot. zone in the confrontation with the rebels , our comrades died. the pilots did not flinch, and with honor the order and their military
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duty. well, on the eve of vladimir putin in the evening televised address, he thanked the russians for their unity during the past events. well , immediately after that, the kremlin announced a meeting between vladimir putin and the security forces. there we saw literally a 30 second fragment. the beginning of this meeting and a short message separately said that there would be no cuts of approaches, as we called it, or statements following the results of this meeting, opening the meeting, the president thanked the security forces for the work done and suggested analyzing the situation that had occurred in meeting weekend. here, as can be seen from the footage that the kremlin circulated, defense minister sergei shoigu was personally present prosecutor general igor krasnov interior minister vladimir kolokoltsev director of the fsb alexander bortnikov head of the national guard viktor zolotov director of the fso dmitry kochnev head of the investigative committee alexander bastrykin a. also head of the kremlin administration anton vaino. well,
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what did the russian ministry of defense say today? preparations for the transfer of heavy equipment used by pmc wagner in the current division of the ministry of defense of russia and in the fsb they announced that they had stopped the criminal case, and the armed rebellion, as it was established that its participants. uh, quote stopped actions directly aimed at committing a crime. well, a little more official chronicle. this morning, vladimir putin received a phone call from the crown prince of saudi arabia , mohamed ben salman. he, as reported in the kremlin , expressed support for the measures taken by the russian leadership to protect the constitutional order of life and security of citizens of the word president of the united arab emirates muhammad benzoid al-khayan andrei vladimirovich also expressed support for putin a few hours earlier by phone with an official chronicle, probably, this is a very important important point, of course, official, but for us this is such a springboard into today's discussion, because and saudi arabia and the united arab emirates are here. countries that
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also belong to the so-called global, which the west really wants to drag to its side, including in terms of, as it were, a settlement ukrainian crisis. we mentioned very casually yesterday. uh, a report by the german tv channel art to which it was claimed that, allegedly , peace negotiations would begin in july. here. well, in general, as if we had such doubts here about the prospects for these peace negotiations, nevertheless. today we can pay more attention to this material the german colleagues have done. how are they. here is the picture in their mind. let's get a look. on monday, the german television channel rd reported a secret meeting in copenhagen, allegedly in saturday. representatives of the g7 and the countries of the global south gathered there. they discussed the so-called peace plan of the terrorist president zelensky, which, in essence , involves the surrender of russia on conditions.
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kiev, it is alleged that the secret meeting was attended by the countries included in the brix, all except russia, the initiator of the negotiations, allegedly spoke in kiev, and the chairmanship of the us presidential assistant for national security jake salelevan, according to aird, the west's goal was to enlist the support of russia's allies formally situation in ukraine and in july to start the peace talks. any discussion, any credible discussion, whether at the summit or somewhere else in a narrower circle , will be welcome, but it must begin with a foundation of faith in ukrainian sovereignty and territorial integrity and begin with a discussion of the zelensky ten-point peace plan. after the rd report, the south african government, which is part of the brix , officially denied their participation in the copenhagen meeting, according to tass china india in the presence of its representatives not confirmed, but a source in the brazilian presidential administration told tass reporters that both brazil itself
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and other developing countries did not support zelensky's plan, because it does not take into account moscow's position . i want to create conditions for both countries to feel good while they they don't want to sit down at the negotiating table, because everyone thinks that he is winning, but at some point they will meet and they will need an intermediary. we need to try to negotiate, brazil is now taking part in the minister. sat down sumorem is in copenge meeting with other countries to try to get america's dialogue going. so any, as mr. kirbis said, credible discussion would be welcome. this discussion deserves trust. alexey sergeevich i think it deserves it. i think that this is, in general , but a diplomatic small but victory for russia , because ukrainians, comrades and their western partners said there that we have zelensky's formula
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zelensky's peace formula, which in fact is not peaceful formula is the maximum program of the ukrainian leadership. and we have the countries of the west that support it, we will not listen to any global south , no brazil, no india, no china, and now they are coming to the point that they have to, uh, attract the global south to their side, to listen to what this is the very south they want say, and this very south concerns us much more. uh, let's say understanding than western countries, so i think this is good good news for us and how to proceed the situation will develop. and you know , it's interesting here just the other day. about two days ago it came out, and a large issue of the fora magazine on the face, dedicated to the situation in ukraine and a , dedicated to sort of resolving this conflict, and almost all the articles, and there they come to the conclusion that it is necessary to negotiate, it is necessary to take into account, including post. this is a military settlement and the opinion of russia, but the battle will continue. i think that the west will act in the same formula as it did during the korean war. yes we are we continue to talk, but we continue
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to fight, but so far we have pushed ukraine and the west to listen to the camp of the big e-e of the global south. this is a big. it seems to me that this is just a little listening to the countries of the global south. they kind of call them to account somehow by twisting their arms with uh, wording, decent people have gathered and are already and already counting. what is it, and you, or as it is customary to say at 360. yes, yes, and you know here ve- it's good. i really do know. when she listened to you, she says now for two days, then, that's what sobering up, in general, the question is not only from me, but once from the two of us, in fact. well , if they could do it, they would . they didn't want to talk to them. why would you talk to the strange global south, if they themselves would be able to do it, they themselves are not able to do it, but they are not ready. i’ll say this from the western side , they are not ready to retreat from the position that they have, and now they are trying
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to lure one of these global southern players with buns or a whip, maybe everyone won't succeed. or maybe someone will get a camp of all these bad people will be wider than one phrase, i will answer any enticement will be a compromise, a compromise that takes into account. including the interests of the countries of the global south, which are not anti-russian. this is already an advantage over the fact that such a moderate optimism andreevich immediately began immediately negative, on the contrary. unfortunately. for us, this is the success of ukraine. and by the way, there is no need to excuse south africa . the adviser to the president of south africa was sitting there worked and approved. it's you who now said this is what they say that they were not there, which means to me that everything is not a success. what is the success of, uh, the copenhagen pieces - let me tell you what it means, uh hmm and what is the success , the third first is that a general
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agreement has been reached by all participants that you already know where it is, it’s all that paper, that whether a general statement would be needed. be whistle. wait, we, so to speak, firstly, you will shut up one, the second, wait, wait, i myself am silent, golden man, right? what is success? let me tell you , the first thing was agreed that the world itself and the summit, and in ukraine should be held earlier without plants announced earlier. and everyone agreed that without russia it's just no, it's here. trust me a little. i know what happened there, we believe , the second, that it was fundamental, that there was a general agreement, by the way, the representatives of the product of fashion advisers signed up for this and found
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an african friend. signed that here is the basic basis for the negotiation process is the full recognition of the territorial integrity of ukraine by all participants in the negotiations. this is the border wait aleksandrovich wait and and the third and third most important thing is that the negotiations can be based on zelensky’s form here , with the possibility of modifying it like this, and now the question . that there will be no negotiations on these terms, so where is the success, then? i'm a little bit into what ukrainian diplomacy is. unfortunately for us begins to really form a broad front. and here are those very strange global south who actually consider themselves to be someone who considers our friends. they caved in. someone is definitely not ukrainian diplomacy. and
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so let's start it. yes, resent the alternatives, which requires proof of the good old memory for some reason, a person needs to prove, or what are you? have you forgotten? or so no signature no fact, uh, well, let's do it, let's do it. uh, entering from the other side of the negotiations, which were allegedly the subject of discussion in copenhag, obviously it is impossible to initiate everything. the so-called civilians from our uh comrades allies, uh friends, and whatever you call them, chinese, brazilian, indonesian saudi, vatican. well, there , in general, the wrong numbers, they are all insignificant by definition, and for one line, which each of them i checked, each has one line negotiations between russia and ukraine are throwing everything out, carry the next one because negotiations between moscow and kiev impossible that's what the demonstration
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of the istanbul treaty was for. putin said 10 times there is no one to talk to and nothing to talk about. now , if kiev has documented itself forbidden to talk, they told me they would allow it, they didn’t cut it, but if real representatives of the global south came and talked with representatives of the west, then the real subject of conversation. there is only one question, is washington ready for negotiations with moscow, if not, everyone relaxes further, but this meeting could have been like that. i'm just trying there chinese. wait for the chinese. i can't see, i'm trying to see in this photo i don't see saliva. he's probably there, like taking pictures. yes, yes, yes here. uh, if we remember what the president of brazil said , sooner or later we will need mediators to talk. if, nevertheless, there is talk here
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that such correct negotiations are being prepared between us and the americans, but some kind of mediators are needed. here, so that not this one here stands, which survives there with the girls. yes, and they are trying some kind of mechanism. here is this one to work out so that we agree to talk with the americans. yes such an option is possible. yes , moreover, putin immediately said that we are in open negotiations with the side that makes the decision. but these negotiations and the leaders of the global south are well aware of this, the only document i have of my own is our proposals for december 21. yes. the only thing that seems to sober me in this version of myself is, again, this word for the second time. today is experience. and? yeah, well, i drink a little bit every day. it is that there is very little time until july. it seems to me here will not be enough. let's have the next option.
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andrey vladimirovich, it’s not for nothing that we use this wording global south today, because those very developing countries are largely african countries, but these are not the only countries that are now showing themselves very stylishly and are waiting for what the west can offer them, because what they had in the old colonial relationship was financial dependence. this does not suit them. now, is it possible some kind of new world order, let's call it that in the relations between the west and the main south, that what does the global south need and what can the west offer? here is the material about it. let 's see the shoes kissed by one of the leaders of the global south, india is rightfully considered last week its prime minister was visiting on render fashion. washington and his president bytes tried in every possible way to charm it is no secret that india needs two things from the usa and from other western partners: investment and technology for this purpose, fashion. meet the heads of us companies general electric boeing google and amazon cooperation with india partnership, which is one of the most significant in
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the world. it is stronger, closer and more dynamic than ever before in history. we focus on the theme one earth - one family. one future. we voice the priorities of the global south, acute problems for the countries of the global south, there is still hunger, according to the un , 25 countries need food assistance , most of them are african in one way or another , about 35 million people are starving there. people and the solution of food issues for the continent is extremely important our continent is exposed to negative economic impacts, energy prices have risen equally. fertilizer prices and food prices have also risen in fuel prices, but only food or finance will not suit the global south, its leaders demand to be spoken to as equals and recall colonial humiliations. so the power of a nigga. recently, a law was passed on changes in the text of the country's anthem, excluding from it the lines addressed to the french colonialists.
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let's be proud and give thanks for our freedom. there's a verse in the new anthem dedicated to the anti-colonial struggle, another example in may, jamaica, just before the coronation of charles iii, promised to withdraw from the british commonwealth of jamaica in hands. jamaica, we say goodbye to a form of government that is linked to a painful past of colonialism and the transatlantic slave trade. we intend to demand reparations from london for the years of the slave trade, as well as an apology. the request for justice to the global south is not only about symbols . offered to sue the former. president george w. bush jr. for the invasion of iraq and chaos in the middle east kerry however, such a formulation of the question did not like the vul from america, you americans committed a crime in iraq, but is it worth judging george w. bush , why is he not being tried in the same way, because there was no no charges were made. wasn't it a war
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crime to invade iraq under false pretenses. no, we did not know then that it was a lie, everything that was done at that time, we did not knew it was a lie. antonch, here we have shown several illustrations. there is the same global south that everyone is talking about now, it has certain fundamental principles. i can't even call it a wishlist. this is already a requirement. he has these requirements, principles. yes, they are not going to defend themselves now, perhaps they felt that they could in that very copenhagen and it was announced. can the west offer washington something to the global south in order to somehow re -agree with it about russia in relation to russia, may become don't know part of this deal. well, let's fly in the ointment, and then the fly in the ointment is that there is no global south in the sense in which we understand the word and pronounce the word west . the west is really in the political dimension. this block is
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a union. write to your germak so that he does not write to you during the broadcast. yes, let him be patient. so, if the west is really a bloc united by common goals and tasks, then the global one, the south, are completely different oddities. and this, of course, weakness of the global yoga, because if its global south, which as a political in the political department we call it would be one. that is, naturally. everything is much. everything would have been decided much easier, and in particular, including in favor of russia, clarifying questions can be asked. why don't you kind of, well, dismiss the possibility of some unifying moments, because what with all due respect? wait antonovich strange global south, they are united. that's what we've been talking about in many ways, really, really difficult social problems. and latin america and africa and the countries of southeast asia are not the richest. in the sense that the population really understands what the problem is, they are approximately the same, that you guys
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fucked us, when or when years ago, now we have you now we don’t understand you, what is the contradiction with what was said. i said they are all different. i said they are all different. i said yes, the integration process, launched, including within the framework of other formats, within the framework of some summits where they come, they are going to make general statements, but the level of integration of the countries of the west of the political military nature, and so on and so forth, is much more powerful , uh, than the global one, which is still divided, it is easier for this united more united west one by one, and one of these decisive players in the global south was dragged not to decide so quite right, but i said what it means not to be overestimated. e launch in the sense that the west can find for everyone some things showed fashion arrival. what has been achieved
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anti-russia statements against russia are in vogue, including when there are no joint statements, because india is smart, because she understands she will take it there and there herself, yes, in the kiev region, china well, excuse me, but what do they expect from china when blinken confirms the words there by the president no, well, it’s just that in the context it’s very important the same for other countries, of course they are trying more, it didn’t start today, it started a long time ago and these negotiations, which , accordingly, and there is a level, that is , let's get a little closer, see your allegory, when a fly in the ointment is added to the barrel. yes, this barrel is already spoiling. no uh-huh no i didn't add a spoonful of tar, you have separate spoons, no one eats tar alone. and i did not offer tar. eat right now i propose to eat. it stands here on this one
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. our task is not to run the tar. eh, not to be allowed. in speaking of allegories, of course, that's what i'm talking about. now, as for the talks a little faster , just to let the rest too, da rewind it means losing about territorial integrity, dear andrei vladimirovich , russia is also ready to recognize territorial integrity from ukraine only within what borders and under what conditions, so this does not mean anything at all. this is a common phrase. this is the first. this is the first. the second is all all the talks that were gone. now opportunities, alas. and and how would anyone like it for the world for there are no conditions for peace negotiations. why? that 's why there is no such possibility so far tactics on the contour of ukraine are still in effect because in russia, unfortunately, those events happened that happened and at least part of the elite of you accepted this as a crack and as a weakness inside russia and the statement of officials, including this, as you call him comrade borel barrels, means that that let's give money there macron,
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that is, our tactics are right, you see, they have cracks. unfortunately it gave only for pressure. so let's viktor zhozevich, and then there is some kind of global yuka, and there they perfectly understand , remembering the experience of the last cold war, that they profitable lot vector policy. it's really beneficial for them to hide everyone from having normal working relations from russia, from china, to the united states and to the european union. they can receive support from different capitals, but in certain situations, but it is important for russia to take a neutral position, and now it is important for russia. russia does not count on african countries to occupy american countries, that's obvious. we will not count on the russian position of russia, that they can obviously be anti-russian bases. yes, they are . russia would like them to remain here these neutral positions, aza wants them to leave these neutral positions. yes, not so naive either. let's be
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frank, americans. they say they are not so naive as to think that all or most of the african countries of latin america will pass. that's purely for the pro-american president. no. no, they really counted on the fact that someone would turn more towards them. that's why they do it well global, the blizzard, as they were, will remain neutral to them. this they proceed from their national interests. how do you disconnect this copenhagen meeting, because you see, we had russian successes, such as the ukrainian case, and generally bullshit or bullshit in general. yes? for now, for now, what is worth talking about the bandage, that is, about what. quiet intention yes, the intention is obvious, but to split someone out of this neutrality and turn closer to the western position, but this jerking happened. for the time being, probably, it is impossible to speak, but as for very briefly, as for the position of south africa, what
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as for the position of china, you can say with confidence that they will not switch to particularly pro-american positions, this is not beneficial for them, because it seems to me that you both agreed and disagreed about something, firstly. sorry , i agree that this is the success of russia or the success of ukrainian diplomacy, firstly, as the success of ukrainian diplomacy is not the sovereignty of the country. and the second thing was that the meeting in copenhagen had nothing to do with the peace talks, the peace talks - this is the sign behind which this meeting took place, the west understood the meaning of this meeting only in one and a half years, that his economic blockade alone did not lead to the collapse of the russian economy. here's what obama once said. yeah, our economy has not been torn apart, respectively, the next stage is to strengthen the blockade,
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all other countries need to be pulled up to this blockade. the so -called global south. that's why this meeting was held under the sign. uh, we're talking peace. about why excuse me why is he holding such a meeting. they are accepting another package of sanctions, they are starting to twist the arms of everyone who, as it were, to us helps these, and why should they collect them, or what? just, of course, to collect everyone and moreover, look how they were collected, they were collected. after accepted. e was, another package of sanctions. yes, a blow just to them guys. this is already further on by a completely random coincidence. although roosevelt e, not an infantile in politics, said that there are no accidents in politics, so this meeting took place precisely at the moment of the rebellion. in russia , i planned correctly in advance. i'm telling you, by chance , if they hint there that they are all who you are.
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only they didn’t hide behind us, and they speak so quietly to them. russia is weak in russia , such events occur, we invite you to join us, otherwise it will be worse. here it sounded, what is it? uh, no one is going to give this wrapper a wrapper, they just twisted their arms and explained that supporting russia would turn out to be disastrous for you. and now what will happen on the other side, on the other side, they perfectly understand that if russia loses, then the very colonialism will return to me, colonism will return to them, that this is the law that they accepted because they set their own price for russian resources. which one will i buy? uh-huh, they will install it in the same way on everyone else. that is, it will be clear, but globally the robbery of this very south, but on the other hand. they absolutely do not want
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to get involved in this fight. and what if russia loses, if it loses, and we are not in a fight then only 50% of our wealth will be taken away from us. and if we knit everything on the side of russia , everything will be taken away, therefore, they will maneuver to the end. uh-huh, they will try in every way to help us surreptitiously, because they understand that uh, our victory is beneficial to them, but at the same time meet. well, obviously the west. say the right things. all i have now maneuvered nature maneuvered. yes, this is about maneuvering other more such big world players. we 'll talk in a few minutes now. the bright taste of jardin instant coffee, gol and jardin is a pleasure to feel as soon as we step into the right by
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should call the president of the terrorist and the shame of the jewish people, vladimir zelensky, while they talked for the last time, and not just the day before yesterday, that is, on sunday, biden, as always, said that the united states would support ukraine no matter what and why suddenly needed such urgency the second conversation in 3 days is not clear. i spoke with president zelensky of ukraine and told him that no matter what happened in russia, we will continue to support the defense of ukraine, its sovereignty and territorial integrity. we agreed on follow-up and constant contact, meanwhile, cnn found out that it was not only biden who called kiev over the weekend. here, according to cnn sources, all kinds of diplomats of various ranks and levels from the united states of europe called the leaders of ukraine to ukrainian politicians in kiev and demanded that they refrain from hitting military targets inside russia so as not to rock the boat on the weekend , according to the interlocutors. the last thing cnn
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wanted in the west was the collective west and ukraine was accused of trying to violate or encroach, but on russian sovereignty. well, unexpectedly, the white house rolled back and on the situation with the zaporizhzhya npp, you remember, mr. kirby accused russia that we are allegedly preparing some kind of nuclear movement or something not very good may happen at the zaporizhzhya npp. here, now he suddenly declares that nothing like this is seen in washington. as you know, we have the ability to monitor radioactivity near the station and we have not seen any signs that this threat inevitable, but we are monitoring it very, very closely. we are monitoring russia's strategic posture as much as possible, its nuclear capability, and we see no signs other than stormy rhetoric. we do not see any signs that there is any intention to use nuclear weapons on the territory of ukraine with one eye sees a repeat tuesday with one eye does not read karaganov articles with one eye. he does not propose to use
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nuclear weapons on the territory of ukraine, they said or simply translated the entire article to the end. you just said that you don't understand, you don't understand. why hmm after the sunday conversation. biden from zelensky should call again andrey vladimirovich i heard bourque explain clearly, please, we are talking about the final definition of the formula for the relationship between ukraine and nato and that there is just one of the three forms. and what has changed since sunday has changed a lot, what has changed is that, as they say , a factor appeared, as they say, the instability of russia, it was on sunday. i once again now, and now it remains with us. sorry weeks two weeks total was a decision ourselves. this is the key message now, because, by the way, any of the three formulas that will be adopted at the vilnius summit will completely close russia's possibilities for negotiations. why because, excuse me even then, russia, will not
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be able to say anything about the fact that ukraine will be a non-bloc state, everything, oh, will appear to the council, ukraine nato, can i have mine russia nato has existed for 300 years? let's close, we will now give andrei vladimirovich the opportunity to process the information. hmm. wait, we stopped at the previous part. i'm just unscheduled. now i heard what he was saying, so i turned to him. in the last part, we dwelled on the thoughts that igor sergeyevich voiced that the countries of the global south are stronger. the less powerful. they will continue. it means trying to maneuver in this turbulent stream into which the united states is trying to drag them, but the united states themselves are also catching, because they also have their own streams, in which different monsters sit from different sides. i just thought to speak about the whole charybdo, after victor invited me to the task today, than intentions will not talk about it. let's see what they have in
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the americans themselves. i mean in the biden administration according to the new york times. the results of the first weeks of the counter-offensive are visibly considered, the sobering bi-ukrainian army is facing a huge number of problems. russia keeps the defense and destroys the lack of soldiers for you and the beginning of general mobilization in more and more new regions ukraine is pushing analysts to think about the loss of the will of the armed forces to continue the fight, which may force kiev to capitulate this option last week , vladimir putin outlined her technique, of course, you can put it in addition. but the mobilization reserve is not unlimited, and it seems that the western allies of ukraine really decided to fight russia until the last ukraine, however, we must proceed from the fact that the enemy’s offensive potential has not been exhausted yet another scenario of depleting western resources for continuation of hostilities. the united states spends
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billions of dollars to support ukraine. ordinary americans are unhappy with this and demand a change of course to end the conflict, in theory , donald trump can if he wins the us presidential election next year. i am the only person. who can say, i will stop world war iii and we are very close to world war iii the expert is sure that a pragmatic politician like trump will concentrate on solving the internal problems of the united states and although on recent issues trump's rating is slightly lower than that of biden, his popularity among the voters of his fellow party members is growing the last simple nbc channel. showed that trump is now supported by 51% of republicans, 5% more than in april, it also blows outside the united states that if president trump won the election in 2020, this war would not start, and we are looking at his possible return to the white house, as a hope for a peaceful future, the third
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option for a possible withdrawal of the united states from the ukrainian conflict, the beginning of a war with china over taiwan in the last months of the american the press regularly warned that if the united states used up all its reserves in ukraine, there would be no resources left to fight the chinese. ugurinpolis wrote that washington's financial military assistance to kiev may come to naught due to the deteriorating relations between the united states and china, and the united states has announced that it is preparing for a war with china defense secretary lloyd austin announced the military budget, it includes a forty percent increase in spending for attacks on china us national security is at stake because china is becoming an economic superpower. they want you to believe that chinese soldiers will soon appear in your backyard. as i understand it, in your picture of the world , the factors that are listed here and do not affect absolutely in any way, so there will be absolutely no more war between china and the united states
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. this is also frozen, like everyone else. but support for ukraine yes, it will only grow. it will only increase, as for the trump, by the way, the adviser said that the fine is indeed. can end the war in one day by presenting an ultimatum to both russia and ukraine, so i give you 24 hours hostilities do not stop. and that i cut everything for you and for you and for you and they cut it for you. what else? well, what will they cut green? i understand that they have nothing to cut off zelensky’s skills, in theory. no, well, listen, it's still not to that extent. we are a bloodthirsty people. just introduce the so-called total economic blockade of russia, yes, now even more times he knows everything, i clarify, but i consider if the us is a possibility. that at some point ukraine will simply get tired of fighting no, and will die at all no no, in general they consider them immortal machines that ukraine is ready
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to be able to. at least people are still people. i practically still have a reserve of almost 2 million people, which we have two million. yes, with what fright there is less than 30 million, officially possible? well, oh, ukrainian mice call this question, which actually interests me the most, and with which we constantly address people. we say that ukraine is ready to accept this american help, the americans are ready to cost something else. uh, to represent this help by force, but ukraine itself does not will get tired at some point from this situation, constantly fighting to the point of exhaustion, ukraine is in a situation, and the ideological patriotic war. this is the maximum ah, a motivating factor, and i would not count on uh, fatigue of ukraine, i would not count on donald, trump . and america can't. wait, andrey
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vladimirovich just said that this is not a war of machine people, but in hell. and i, too, like, wait. wait a second. here in this story that we showed there was a big piece there at the beginning, i don't know you. or is this the whole video or not? and they posted it in general , they have one in ukraine, as if the journalist butusov is completely so wounded. they are there , in fact, we cut it off, i watched it in its entirety. yes, this is a huge field, over which these bmps of some kind are scattered, of course, i can’t tell the bank. well, it seems like some kind of american ones, and there are these really wounded ukrainian servicemen who are constantly undermined on mines. we just didn't show you. here they come to this bmp, it opens there. here is the hatch. uh-huh, there one starts the other. uh, it means to drag on the armor, and at that moment, they advance for a minute and explode, and one just jumps out. here he is standing here holding. that's how the bulletproof vest jumps and hits right on the minus.
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that's why the questions are understandable. quite natural. naturally, where will they get manpower from just for this war of the americans. they really have quite a large resource, their very motivated population every ukrainian, this one, to the last ukrainian. this is not discussed. as if, in order to understand the enemy, you need to understand how he thinks when he thinks himself in a state of world war ii. now i’m not talking about ukraine, but about the ukrainian authorities who give money for weapons, they give them everything except people. yes, they also thought how this fox is. the mana of the local shut up so that he stopped fighting, and he continued to fight. he says i will fight, and you americans won't do anything to me. no need to discount here zelensky and ukraine in general, they themselves can influence the united states and wag out of the american one, and not they can fight. in general, u mine for a long time, and they will give alexey sergeevich not
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to fight. if they say we're all here, we can't, we're tired. not now, not in six months, but in some medium-term perspective. i will not give up, then yes, but they, until we see that they give up or to this, somehow found the opposite. antonovich continues to resume, which means, firstly, about high motivation. high motivation it's always good when a person sits on the couch and supports, when it comes to you personally they will take it away, and now they will throw it in contrast. stop. i think that this high motivation will come down very quickly. many people don't, if he has more than 100, this is the first second moment. so, as far as you understand, the americans, both there and in the allies, of course, understand they are not idiots. they are well aware that in a protracted war, ukraine simply has fewer human reserves, there are definitely economic ones, and so on and so forth, to get out winner. they are well aware that at a certain point, ukrainian society may also get tired. they are well aware that the west itself can get tired of supporting support for ukraine - this is very expensive, so , of course, they have two options: either they do everything for
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ukraine to counterattack and show these results, or the second moment. if this fails to freeze the conflict, that is, not to stop, but to freeze, because the cessation of the conflict means the cessation of the conflict. in any case, on conditions of russia, and freezing, it seems, has stopped. maybe, but one-sided freezing does not happen. this is what i wanted and say. i'm talking about tactics. now, as for the war with china, you know, i know for sure that most likely america will not fight with china. although all sorts of possibilities can be even nuclear probabilities are always there, unfortunately, if sorry the gun hangs it. unlikely, here but there is a share, but there is, but that's not the problem. we live in a world of truth where probability is nothing speaks. uh, the chinese threat is so hyped in american society, including among democrats and republicans. this is generally general content that china is an enemy, that in any case, when you empty your arsenals and at the same time you shout and
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say, as it were, that we are there with china, this is our enemy, he writes it down in documents. so we say that we need the armed forces. at the same time , you intimidate the arsenals and nothing happens, and you turn out to be weaker, at least in the ideas of information people in your head, of course, these are big, uh, questions about the population to their politicians. like the democrats , so are the republicans. of course, they will put pressure on them, but still democracy, still america is inside, no matter how it is oriented towards choice, it does everything for the sake of elections. they need some victory for some kind of achievement. and here it doesn't fit here it doesn't fit there it doesn't fit, and now they're actually hoses here. alexander yuryevich, you said that ukraine's forces out of themselves are correct. understood your power surge, there is still a little doubt about the numbers of 2 million. nevertheless. maybe at all some moment when ukraine wants to get out of the conflict of rights, and here i am. firstly, i wanted to thank the respected hosts for finally being here after almost six months. we have returned to the topic to the topics, about which i have been talking since january here with you and everything, how skeptical.
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come on, but now we are discussing the merits, which means that quoting is always good. e. yes , i realized that this is not a collision for a collision. this is gratitude, that you are thanked, as always alexander yuryevich come on, come on, sorry, you know the first year, that means so. and as for, therefore, sly, there fox north on my word liz sly is always okay, well, then, uh, about two million. uh, kiev let it be on the sly without official announcements, but the regions of general mobilization have begun. and what about started? he this is important in western ukraine began laid the foundation for the ivano-frankivsk region, because in poltava there is simply no one there anymore. and this is a reliable fact that there in poltava there are simply no more men in general, according to the poles, an underestimated 8 million. e people with ukraine left only for europe 8 million. this is about the holy war, yes, domestic 8 million valves of the country are wild, the patriotic war of a woman.
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what's the difference, and the men at home great war points. first of all, most of the women of ukraine have already adopted legislation that allows women to mobilize our supreme is absolutely right. but their categorically wrong, andrey is a war of machines, and bradley is fighting without a crew, what or what? she works on joysticks, they can make them more brads. more precisely, they already have to send, but they cannot make new ukrainians, they run out. this is the last task set by ukrainian sources. uh, the office of this nonsense, uh, dial 50-60.000 and everything for the last blow, but they won’t do it. god forbid, by the fall 50 dash 60.000 and the end. how will it finally come even earlier, because the question is posed in general , wait a minute. and also here putin says that even
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you wait. you are christmas trees. putin said that ukrainians keep strategic reserves - it's still some kind of big one. no, what is not according to data from open arguing with putin? no, but he named the numbers, and i will name according to data from open sources before the start of the offensive. they formed two corps. yes, the tenth eleventh memory does not change. this is ideally 60,000 people. in fact, 50 of them are understaffed everywhere, plus they are packed with equipment, there is a mechanized brigade. in the same place, these are english german tanks, listen, but putin said on saturday that our fighters are fighting with superior enemy forces. well, andrey vladimirovich, that superiority can be created in each local area over the enemy, despite the fact that the main one just doesn’t want to go into it, but they have an advantage, because they pulled out a strategic reserve there. they
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have already dragged these corps there, and this and this is their defeat, because i spoke. it is at the very beginning of the offensive that the two main issues are the direction of the main attack and reserves. we did not touch the reserves. they dragged the strategic reserve. that's it, they won't be able to get him out of there. they untied our hands and this is the last offensive of the kiev regime. still, we will sit and wait while we have them there. does not spank everyone. and notice there is a certain dynamic. starts june 4th. we are shown it. yeah well, it's not emphasized because we're all. we're waiting for yes, that's all. well, you know, when the french were now surrendering. hey ukrainians. this is an everyday story, this was not the case, even in the spring when the french. threat now showed a report, remember it was looked from our positions. here is what kind of fortifications we have, how, of course, the question has disappeared, because if we didn’t do this now, this counterattack would still be afraid of them did not reach them. yes, so short pauses, then we will return to our geopolitical topic.
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where everything becomes clear. let us let's continue the conversation we had. firstly, i will now give the floor to vanya, because i interrupted somehow. ah, reasoning. uh, alexey sergeevich new about trump. he said that you wait with your trump. and in general, spoiling, probably, is also not very correct. because news related to it appear every day. and now we have another such portion, what is there with him, oh, remember the scandal with secret documents, all kinds of disclosures in classified information, just like that, the prophets are next to the toilet bowl. there it appeared continued new item one toilet bowl. now it's not limited to cnn claims to have obtained an audio recording of trump in 2021. that is, after leaving the white house, he allegedly shows a document marked secret to the people who helped. writing memoirs to former adviser to the president marco medusa in total , five people take part in the conversation on the audio recording. she
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is actually quite strange there we hear a voice similar to trump's voice and some rustling. well, let's show you all this. well, dare to think. now i will show you an example, he said that i wanted to attack iran, it was he showed me. this is off the record. he was the department of defense, and he did it. not me. it was he. i just discovered. this document. it will definitely help me win the case. true, this is classified material. that's because it's x- files and caught on experts. cnn here absolutely gave in to hear it, they wouldn’t hear it, but the sound of the discharged water was, if god, as it were , a possible kind of rustling, but nevertheless , we’ll return to secrecy, because that’s it this secrecy. that piece of paper that is not being discussed and is now playing into the hands of those who say that trump should be tried for the same mishandling of classified materials. he shakes the papers.
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says he's classified, by definition, one of the most confidential documents that a potential us enemy's attack plan could have is very valuable information that the iranians could pay tens of millions of dollars for. he's just a sociopath who does n't respect rules, or other people's lives, or country, neither the constitution nor its duty , it is curious that cnn used to say that it has certain principles that it does not use any of its documents or audio recordings of an incomprehensible nature of origin in investigations. so now, in particular , compromising evidence on the macron was not used, but the bidens boycotted the story with hunter's laptop in every possible way. ah as same there same wrongly stolen documents. well, they refused to discuss the audio recordings of poroshenko's conversations, incomprehensibly someone's voice. well, it’s not ethical at all, but for trump on cnn, of course, he is ready to make exceptions from his principles. well, trump himself
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has already commented on all this, to be honest, he was not shy about expressions. deranged special counsel jack smith, working with the justice department and the fbi , illegally leaked and hyped the transcript of my speech, which is actually an excuse, not what they would like you to believe. this ongoing witch hunt is yet another election interference scam. they are scammers. and the thugs rustled like this andrey vladimirovich, at least they did not hear. no, i read it was written there. i now know how to rustle. eh, paper shuffling needs to be remembered, but things that we actually got out of his understanding, and they are not for me, but for mine they are inaccessible. and let's then. we are now, since we had such a piece here about relations between the usa and china. our guests will try to explain all this to me, because, well, some things are true. i have absolutely no
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idea how this all works. so, here we are now trying to analyze. someone said here andrey vladimirovich yes, and anton vladimirovich agreed with him, there will be no clash between china and the united states. that's what we have now at the moment flying. uh, a few days ago , mr. blinkin, head of the state department , visited china for the first time in some cloud of years. i already forgot, but we talked about it, that is, it is very important to go to the meeting, judging by the picture. uh, nothing good happened. there's something, yes. it's just that i have this photo, when they shake hands blinky on isi, here he is, and so he stuck his hand somewhere there, a here such you know, well, it seems, as normally flew, flew home. president biden, says a day later the chinese sit-dictator. here is a reduced dictator well, it doesn't matter, here is the main dictionary, chinese. this is what it is, so the americans are starting
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to explain something like, well, as always, the president is not quite right, understand? or maybe things have calmed down. out again. blinkin, says no, biden, rightly said, and we all mean with our president. he is expressed by an intelligible dictator. what it is? i am not understand. give us a story, please. despite the fact that the beijing rendezvous between blinkin and xi jinping was emphasized cold, the sides reported a thaw in relations. the very fact. the meetings of the head of the state department with the chairman of the prc in the west were interpreted almost as a breakthrough in american diplomacy blinken, even called for closing the chapter with a chinese balloon shot down over the united states, but the very next day joe biden opened it again, saying in an interview that zemfin was very upset due to the situation with the balloon. and this quote is a big embarrassment for dictators. beijing called this a provocation by the american side.
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extremely absurd extremely irresponsible contrary to the facts seriously violates diplomatic etiquette is a serious attack on china's political dignity this is an open political provocation by the american press in an attempt to soften the situation began to intermittently say that all white house officials were buttoned unawares by the words of the bayan of chinese libya to smooth the situation and seek new contacts with beijing, but then a blinkin appeared and ruined everything, when it comes talking about china, it is absolutely clear that we will do and say things that they will not like. they will do and say things they don't like. he speaks frankly. i have worked for him for over 20 years and he speaks for us . it is possible to make forecasts of such open information , but it is difficult for me
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to make such forecasts for the future, of course, because in fact the deep american state builds relations with china in such a way that, well, at least try this confrontation to introduce, but in some familiar framework, yes, therefore, blinkin flies there, therefore, in general, he seeks meetings with delpina. do you remember at some point there was incomprehensible. you know, it seems that the life of this ball has passed, then the biden comes out. and so , in the demobilization style, in the pensioner's way, they spread what they all think, of course, you never know, which of us thinks some things. it's simply unacceptable to say even if only because china demands respect from the united states, respect for its rights, respect. well, the titles of his leader. i don't think you can call a dictator a weakling out loud. don't try to imagine yet,
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because not only it was there. and also why the dictator didn’t get upset, because yes, yes, control, and here i don’t even think that the press is how you could think from the plot that the american press was trying. well, how would you solve the foreign policy problem, that someone called said, well, really , do it in such a way as to smooth it out. e with china this is a contradiction. i think that they were really told, and without references to the hunters, what they the rules were stunned by this statement and it would be better somehow, uh, to resolve the situation, but then pancake again. that's what blinky did, he absolutely nullified. well, because he is a member of the team, but because at some point, not only in them, but also in other countries, i will not. it is necessary to call to swear allegiance to the president, he fastened new items to the president, or maybe he could have evaded the answer, swearing allegiance to the president, but not repeating. this is
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about the rule of a dictator. and then the results of the visit would largely be preserved. yes, you could have it was also that biden did not do it. i didn't have it. this is where i have serious doubts. but is everything so normal in this team a of the ruling democratic party. yes, you know , i don't really understand why we all the time, uh, represent the american leadership as a bunch of some idiots who don't understand. so there is one idiot. yes, nothing ever happens. wait i'll give you the disposition first. let's do this, in my opinion, mr. fedorov , there are many of us, and there were many many months ago. he said it didn't matter at all. oh, biden understands something there, or he already understands nothing. around the biden there is some kind of such an apparatus that works and the biden,
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in general, is in tenth place there. therefore , this apparatus, as it were, works for itself and works and no. here we all do not represent them all idiots. on the contrary, they have an apparatus. they have power, which is represented there by biden blinken and so on and so forth, remember, the same story was sung with this task of a very advanced age. well it was the old woman sang. yes, there was a lot of history with her , too, everyone spoke recently, she even had the great depression. she lost her mind and others, then it turned out that all this was her trip to taiwan, absolutely clear. clearly planned in coordination with the white house. although the white house denied it many times and so on, it was a well-planned action against china , why? we took that the goal of the united states is to improve relations with china. we proceed from what they say officially, everyone says it, everyone
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says for peace, everyone says for friendship. from it does not follow that everyone strives for peace and friendship. who then is fighting, the goal of the united states is to eliminate china as a geopolitical economic competitor? it’s easy to grind, but they don’t need a war at full power, they just need china to stop being an economic threat to the united states . calling a weakling dictator a moron there. well listen you achieve, just wait, the americans believe that it is a position of strength. such impudence, such rudeness towards china is beneficial to them. here the same story repeats itself, but
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nothing understood that it would be perceived in china, but they deliberately went to aggravate relations. they solve this problem, but not through war. so how close is the theory to you. well, look, of course. strategically, that's right. yes , the americans want to win, but china is tactically in the moment. really. i think some analysts' strategy is washington would like to arrange at least a temporary so-called so-called thing that also in the western expert community actively promoted detente in relations with china yes , for one really prosaic reason, because now many in washington are concerned about the strengthening of cooperation between china and russia and also iran, then, there is such a triple alliance, and many hoped that the second council was bad for the ussr, but to force russia, in general, because i convince the operation in ukraine so our opinion, but not the americans, but that's all there say the experts. more with you wait. you
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take heart met you to me explain if they have. eh, so here is some kind of desire for a small discharge of the device, who arranges such discharges? that's what i'm going to that, of course, nothing happened, that is. you saw how hanging binkin ended in a complete fiasco. i even managed to agree on opening a direct channel of military communication between the pentagon and the general staff of the people's liberation army. china that is, even such an ordinary thing they failed to achieve, the minister of defense of the patanction, and the proud chinese said they would not and there was no meeting on this issue between loyd austin, as well as the disarmament of china. as a result, we somehow agreed on resolving the fentanyl crisis in the united states; as we can see, no special progress has taken place. in general, biden. as a result , he came out and said quite, perhaps a certain reservation. but this is a freudian slip, yes, that is, it was excellent in parallel. today that, in principle, everyone thinks so in washington, in fact. about china, simply often because of diplomatic politeness. they didn’t talk about it, now they said in the white house, and
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such a gewald began like this, because, well , there was no understanding of how to react to this? yes, and they were mustaches. the word is not a sparrow. good in the end. eventually. as a result, in fact, blinkin came out and said that yes, he reflects, of course, the opinion of the entire administration, simply because it was recorded. that this visit ended in a fiasco, that's all. you need to understand that the anti-chinese consensus in the united states is stronger than ever, and in washington, among sixth graders and in general society, 80% of americans view china negatively. if now, against the backdrop of all the failures in the agreements, biden. well, in general , the administration of the baydan. would have continued to try further to negotiate with china, it would already look bad in the eyes of the voter. and they don't need it. the visit ended with blinkin's biden failure. under this, he signed using the phrase humiliated dictator and then something that no detente happened , warming is not coming. that is, everything will go. only even more down we went to beijing not for
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discharge. he did not go for warming relations. he went for their stabilization. that is, indeed, there is absolutely anti-chinese content in america, and america has set a course to contain china's opposition, but america also has it. but no, most of the majority of experts that america will not pull out on two fronts, therefore, you need to maximize the detente of stabilization somehow. well, that 's when you're in any way, sort of, uh, improving the intelligence situation is when you put your conflict in a manageable channel. eh, what's with than traveled, blinkin just pull on the collision time collision is inevitable. china is growing too fast, and from this point of view, his happiness is not entirely his happiness. uh, but his visit failed. but as for what, how would he and what do you think, here , if biden called uh, forces a humiliated dictator, what should blinkin say when you accept the text asked you support
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the president of the russian federation uh. so you have to answer, but the president's phrase was taken out of context, as they always are, of course, when did the pills get mixed up? no i couldn't to say it is impossible to say, it was possible not to answer this question, than we are blinkins. we will teach not to answer questions. he doesn't want to answer. when asked, he will leave him and tell how he ate. and once again, in the case of a contradiction, in general, concepts, while the americans are failing, while the americans are trying to do something. we see how china systematically strengthens its position and enters the international arena on all fronts. in fact, these are literally the last, maybe a year and a half, probably. maybe a little more i ask for a sharp activation of the chinese foreign policy, where they fail to stabilize conflicts with china, here, where they fail partly for everything, then all hope goes to the fact that china does not need a conflict now. the united states of america does not need it, but we need it, and
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we need it, so we will. yes, of course, no more. yes, lord, well, that was 20 minutes ago okay. so elena vladimirovna means in the blood, god bless. but, uh, still proceed. e fixed, yes, the americans want to grind. uh, china, i think this is based on the fact that they are there in everyone in washington is crazy, because after all , everyone understands. what is the meaning of china is the strength of china's population. yes, in terms of nuclear missile potential, maybe china and the united states are still not up to par. here, americans can breathe more or less calmly, but there is no need to grind, but you need to try to make this whole machine work
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let's see the material, the european confusion regarding china was fully manifested in april during a trip to beijing by immanuel akron, and ursula fondlyaem called the visit catastrophes then, the main gynecology of europe, severova, scolded the chinese for violating human rights, and the president of france, as if to spite her, did, surprisingly warm conciliatory statements, arguing that europe, regardless of the us , france supports the status of whom?
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there is no import substitution program; chinese companies partially or wholly own european airports and energy companies. they have shares in the ports of greece, italy, spain, portugal, belgium, the netherlands and, again, germany. therefore, after anthony blinkin's visit to china, president macron was delighted and called on the west and east to live together. i have never put france on equal footing with china and the us we are all in nato we have common values, and i mean human relations and friendship. we want to have the best relationship from china just
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to clarify that the perception should be the next china and the us should be on the same level of competition, but i want to emphasize this point. it is very important for me to have a more autonomous europe and the european union. why because it's good for the global order? nikolai nikolaevich here it seems that europe has found itself in such a trap of this confrontation between washington and beijing. beijing will treat europe in the same way as it treats the united states. well, as part of the united west with which it is increasingly at odds, or it will somehow happen differently here. well, i think that in the first part of your program there was a thesis, and you did not fully answer the question. what is china fighting for the us but they are specifically fighting for the european union for the european technology market is now a question because it is not very subjective. the history of the european union is, most likely, it will have the choice to be, or, respectively, to remain. in the same er, americans. uh, either it's still to change the owner and refocus on the chinese market. save your economy stay.
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in this chinese american now, since the age of 21 , of course, china has ousted in the united states from the largest trading partner of the european union . and what will the european union do , er, the european union? the united states may indeed impose some kind of sanctions, but de facto chinese companies will trade with the european union through the system, and some companies will be affiliated intermediaries, and so on. everything that we observed in circumventing the sanctions from the russian side, a will be observed in relation to. uh, the people's republic of china. i understand everything, but at some point , a moment of some kind of aggravation, the united states will want to stomp their feet and say we are imposing such sanctions against china now on technology. we will come to this on some other issue, and he says europeans. come on, you are with us and at this moment you will either have to say. forgive or humility here elena vladimirovna just cited the opinion of hmm a number of american politicians. she said that they
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they themselves understand that the united states is now a force outgoing, some of them there, as she says, john bolton is still trying to puff out their cheeks there, but the americans themselves understand this, the europeans themselves understand, if they understand, then this is it. and which is brewed, yes, as it were, they should not be allowed. and i think that most likely they will still go to the netherlands, about the netherlands it’s already clear that by microchim we tried, er, to fix the restrictions of the american, and still found some way to bypass these restrictions, what you make the americans, they will blow up, uh, alternative, so it will be like nord stream 2. uh, maybe some traffic is disrupted, the chinese european chinese are preparing for this very actively, that is, about the europeans, no, there are no americans, and the tools to prevent the chinese european such attitude of methods, against the bone, yes, yes. well, look, in my opinion, you didn’t quite correctly pose the question, when they said that america was adjusting with directorial sanctions and
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they would force europe to lead the situation a little different. no, we quoted a respected senator. perhaps the one who said that if anything, we will command europe, and europe is being destroyed , look in america and with china there is still a very high level of trade turnover. for 600 billion dollars and of course, to bring their economy to its knees with sectoral sanctions, right now in the moment they are not going to, what they want they want to use the european economy. again, as a battering ram not only against russia but also against china, that is, this will not be about the fact that we were conducting our own sanctions the europeans should implement the same sanctions, no, it will not be that we will force the europeans to impose their sanctions at the level, and we have brussels talking about it, national leaders, like the macron, which they are trying somehow now. eh, buckle up a bit. yes, but at the plus level. in the same place, an anti-chinese consensus has already been built . mrs. michelle's ball on the internet and all the other guys. barrel, by the way, about the need to reduce our critical dependence on china, that is, at the level of presentation already accepted this is a strategic decision.
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uh, it’s really moving in line with us policy, so it will be about the same scenario here, how from russia, how would europe have already done, the main thing is the victims of sensation and europe, you already hurt a little from these sanctions and now they will still be on china, the side will also break old fascists. you see, he will die of the euro. europeans will become, quite possibly, the prospect of the european union. that's all, perhaps, in our perspective, what is a fascist? i already said everything. well it's good that as for china as for china and europe and i've been talking to a lot of european political scientists in recent days. naturally, we discussed saturday's events , since we talked for a long time, then on some global things. you wish it ended and you moved on to others. well , it's simple, if you talk for 1:40 minutes, you talk, and then 20 minutes from those things that discussed nothing to finish. and what's interesting, they said, i noted for myself. that is, now the main clash
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between europeans and americans is, and americans want europe to push confrontations with china uh-huh and the europeans are afraid that by doing so the americans will betray them. in the conflict with russia, which is the main thing for europeans, and for americans even for this administration, what does it mean, and for the transfer, the americans will decide that the main enemy of china and russia must be negotiated, even at the expense of some concessions that europeans consider unthinkable, because that emotionally they are already on the ukrainian wave. here are the americans, they are more selfish, they sit, sit-at home . so on the continent they are all these ukrainian-european affairs. they don't care that much. but the confrontation with china is existential for them, and the europeans are afraid that the americans will drag
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them into this confrontation, so here it’s not paradoxical for the kremlin in moscow that those forces in europe that blindly orient themselves towards the united states take over or otherwise the americans will see them at this moment to close the russian page and escapism on the confrontation with china please about who resists the macro resists. here is everything, tin. he was presented as a person who later changed his position under pressure in the united states. he became such a tough, anti-chinese. no, they paid attention, he is also my interlocutors. and what about the french i think, by the way, no, which means that around a-a, he applied the right of branches and forbade the opening of a nato office in tokyo because for a macron. it was a completely unacceptable challenge to china. although they wanted the american, but here the macron said no, and in this camp, like the macron. uh, frank
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well, of course, the french, the germans, and the italians, who were under the previous government the most important lobbyist, china in the european union , completely defected to the american authorities. george tunes here i answer this is who told me this. this italian was a very good political scientist. so it is precisely in this, and here the americans bent the italians the italians, where, but the country where the chinese very much penetrated their market with technologies with their launches. that's it, it's george meloni. i reviewed everything and absolutely went to the american camp, the french and the germans hold all the silver. wanted or yes, you started to add something, uh. in my opinion emotionality and professional politics are things. uh, still incompatible and many of the european politicians. if need be e were emotional politics. hugo chavez, for example,
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feeds of instruments, well, it happens, of course. to generalize exclusively on a mass scale, and some of them will be the first to resort to, e . the europeans. a lot of claims to america to itself in e. areas economy. after all, now the economy is nobody . well, they are sitting, they are crying in a fist. and rightfully so, the macron has repeatedly said that he needs to jump off this american rhythm. the problem is that europe has mechanisms. they don’t have much, here they write good ones, you read their think tanks, french german think tanks there, what you need is everything you need european, the army needs its own politics. they don't write how they have a crisis, a leadership expression , and a crisis. eh, i wanted to fulfill them. here at
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for the president to tell for the first time that the wagner group was financed from the state budget and even called specific numbers. at the same time, he noted that the owner, the concord company, made very good money on government contracts. the content of the entire group was fully provided by the state from the ministry of defense of the state budget. we fully funded this group, only uh, only from may 22 to may 23 the state paid the company 86 billion 262 million rubles for cash support and incentive payments. of which cash support 70 billion, 84 incentive payments 15 billion, 877
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insurance payments 110 billion worth 79 owner via voentorg despite the fact that the very maintenance of wagner was on the shoulders of the state, for a year the owner of the concord company through voentorg received money from the state by supplying food, without providing food services in the army, he earned 80 billion rubles. full content and part of this entire group is the control company at the same time earned 80 billion rubles. but
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i hope that in the course of these works, no one stole anything, or let's say less, but of course, we will, of course, with this completely understand, while putin noted that the fighters of the wagner group in russia are treated with respect, they have shown more than once at the front, courage and heroism. well, putin also added that the cant of the armed forces should be formed from those who properly proved themselves in combat work. here are the latest news from the kremlin well, we need to figure it out , this is what yesterday, in my opinion, kazakov told us that now there is a lot of work for the fsb and the investigative committee. well, when they figure it out, then we will discuss it now, after all. let's let's finish our today's topic, because we settled on the fact that, apparently, the united states will try to force the europeans, somehow
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impose sanctions against china, but in general, the americans are also working on their own sanctions, not that they already somehow introduced, but they are considering a variety of actions one of the options. the fact that the united states intends to tighten controls on the export of semiconductors. china became aware last week , washington's target according to a japanese publication. kyoda interfere beijing in the development of advanced technologies for military needs along with the americans , japan also expanded its list of goods prohibited for export to china, it just included devices for creating microchips and economic interconnection. this is a recipe for peace and mutual prosperity. isn't it true that the usa is still the main pivot of this system. they have the most important ingredients , the best software, and the largest number of chip making machines. taiwan their best friend possesses factories where chips are made, china
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is in a weak position. chip's full-scale war in the united states was unleashed last year, when american companies were banned from supplying china with high-tech semiconductor products, these restrictions , as reported by the new york times, should significantly slow down the progress of chinese military programs, in which supercomputers are used, in particular, to simulate nuclear explosions to control hypersonic weapons and the creation of advanced surveillance networks for opposition figures and representatives minority, but the lack of chips and will affect the world and sectors of the chinese economy. automotive manufacturing buildings, electronics and others they import tons of chips because their economy depends on assembling electronics. today. china spends the same amount of money on semiconductor imports. how much to import oil and this is an extraordinary indicator along the way, the united states decided to increase the production of microchips in europe as part of
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a strategy to strengthen defense. from asian corporations this week, the us processor company intel concluded a deal with the german authorities for 30 billion euros, and the construction of new factories for the production of microelectronics. another 10 billion euros from the state budget for these purposes will be spent by the germans themselves economically. we cannot allow strategic technologies to be created and implemented in asia or exclusively in america, we as europe must have a certain self-sufficiency and be able to provide key products. do you think you really found such a vulnerable point? well, of course they groped the fact is that now the united states has been publishing a huge number of articles in the army for the past few years, saying that the chinese are bypassing in the field of neo-science in the field of scientific technical development, especially the military quantum computing there, and so on
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and so forth. naturally, in this from the usa , it is trying to limit the growth of chinese high-tech as much as possible. he is trying to limit as much as possible, including what you said, and the export to e, chinese chips, the only problem is that the chinese also understand everything, the chinese understand their vulnerabilities and the chinese are developing mass production of microchips in its territory. this is the word self-sufficiency, which was said by a german comrade, this word has become the new main word in the entire world economy. it's all about growth. that is, while you are developing this production of microchips. this is your 5-7. and maybe even 10 years will pass, when you see those capacities so that you can start producing self-sufficiently. secondly, the chinese had enough production. they just build up in thirds. that means a part microchip manufactures taiwan taiwan in the twenty-fourth year. a lot of things can also happen after the elections, right? that is, in principle, china at least what i read, maybe the chinese counterpart was you.
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it's a pity that you are in the previous block. they never once said anything, but they raise their hands, but they didn’t say anything. well, come on, i'm just not one of the articles, including the americans, it was said everywhere that chinese high-tech is bent due to lack. no, well, that's understandable. this, that is, this is just when right now, when you need to puff out your cheeks, when you are already in fact a position of weakness , in fact your material was only talking about one blow, in fact, these two blows in may 21, also the chinese automotive sharp decided to chip for a period of about two months. they survived this blow. there grouped production continued second impact at the end of the twentieth year of the twenty- first. and why did i have disappeared abruptly disappeared microchips on the largest taiwanese manufacturer so far this issue was investigated by the americans, where? who could it be someone bought a large batch,
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will not be on the example of america , the chinese perfectly saw how expensive, inefficient and dangerous it is in some seven leaders. yes, one of the leaders for sure. yes, i absolutely agree with this. i think that china is not striving for this, it is striving for more multipolar world can be bipolar or multipolar world, but another thing is that the situation remains mutually dangerous. yes, what the west calls the fukedin trap, when one superpower leaves, another appears. a superpower may not even take the place of the united states, but, nevertheless, it threatens the positions of the united states, therefore, usually in such cases , major conflicts occur, perhaps we can never avoid this either. nikolaevich china cannot but become a guimon. otherwise, you economy is tied to international markets. it will simply fall apart, but another thing is that this movement cannot be in one step at the beginning there must be two powers in order to come to a single power and an important moment without the russian federation of china will not be able to become a hegemon, this will definitely not happen. tomorrow it will last 20 years. china will take a bite out of the american system of europe and east asia, and so on. well, china is a rising force, which means in modern
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realities a more or less young uh-huh, but china will behave like that very experienced bull on the mountain. take your time, full of confidence that honesty will always be some such illusion. you have some book on world history, i don’t remember already. in which read on the example of the tenth or one layer signs. what did you read? uh, the tenth-eleventh century, chinese ships sailed to the middle east and the chinese then saw that they were significantly superior in terms of both intellectual and progressive development to the times they saw there, but they decided that they did not need it. here they took dominance and sailed away the question. does it need china now? you don't have any xenophobic one. no. i'm better about the global south. in general, one way or another, the whole program was talking about it, and the south would be exciting uh, we will soon have a vacation next week roza yakovlevna how was your vacation, they say you were resting,
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somewhere far in the south is disgusting. all 2 weeks it rained non-stop. what are you talking about, well, it seems to me that you are still a little tanned. it's not a tan. this is rust, this was a meeting place that cannot be changed 14:00 weekdays ntv broadcast all the best to you, goodbye. actually stopped the civil war vladimir putin addressed the representatives of the power bloc today on cathedral square.
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