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today, in our program, this is the internal affairs of russia, a panic attack in the united states and europe is trying their best to assure that they are not involved in the rebellion in russia, which is what they were so afraid of in the west. we had nothing to do with this european sweep in the eu wanting to abolish the right of the century on important political issues. will they be able to silence unwanted voices? we need a rule that will allow us to act faster a systemic failure in russia proposed to abandon the unified state examination will a return to the old exam system help restore the level of education of soviet schoolchildren, sometimes with higher education. watch right now. hello, is this the meeting place on ntv, the place
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where everything becomes clear? i'm andrey norkin. my colleague is ivan trushkin. we are working live. now we will start the events. here's a fresh such an interesting event. we hmm a little gasped. here they gasped, however, not in the center of decision-making, but in the place of accumulation of enemy manpower. and not just the manpower of the enemy for foreign mercenaries. right now, of course, everything is already accelerating, as they are used to. it's overclocking that russia attacked civilians there at facilities. well, this does not stand up to criticism, because they themselves told everything. i mean the other side, then they themselves tried to remove it all. now we will tell everything. that's why you say interesting events. that's what we, uh, delivered right now, such a blow, very interesting. it looks against the backdrop of the reaction that the west has to our saturday events, because they continue to discuss this rebellion and they have uh hmm
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some kind of very strange behavior. in general, now it all connects to me. here is one deep in me. yes, and i am very interested in pulling the strings in this ball. well, let's go in order, so today we received reports that in kramatorsk kramatorsk, as you remember, is under the control of the kiev regime, and there was, uh, a blow was struck at the ria lounge restaurant. uh, that side claims that eight dead more than 50 victims, among whom there are foreigners. now let's watch the footage there, because it's not just foreigners. these are foreign mercenaries on footage that was filmed immediately after arrival, firstly, you can hear english speech from one of the victims of the tattoo of the third ranger battalion of the us army , numerous cars and ambulances that arrived at the site of the impact, e, foreign abroad. with military symbols or non-military symbols, for example, with the sign of the white cross, the place of gathering of the military was revealed by a ukrainian volunteer. here she was now in the photo. her name is julia
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skladanov. she previously posted photos on social media with canadian military instructors. at the same time, she noted their accounts and geolocation. she has now deleted all of these posts. and by the way, you yourself the mercenaries also did not particularly hide where it is, because this restaurant was a favorite place of one of the mercenaries, alex gallan, after the strike , he published a photo with a caption on social networks. lord jesus, we've always dined here. uh, belgian journalist. arno deteker posted footage of himself having lunch in a restaurant 20 minutes before the impact in these footage. you can also see people in military uniform standing in line ukrainian channels presented as the victim, for example, here is such a volunteer in quotation marks from the netherlands let's see. well, we were at the restaurant. we were sitting in a restaurant. all was good. and suddenly , at one moment, there was an explosion. we didn't expect at all. i was shocked, and then i suddenly realized
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that i had to leave in ukrainian , i speak, as far as i understand, come on, yes, yes, of course, the ukrainian authorities and bloggers controlled by them. now they are actively dispersing the version that only civilians suffered during the strikes. at the same time, this version is generally denied by the sbu of ukraine which very quickly announced this morning that it had detained a certain spotter , it is alleged that this is a resident of kramatorsk who, according to the sbu , drove up to this restaurant on the instructions of russian military intelligence. i took a picture of something and looked at what cars are located nearby. and after that , only here, again, this version of the sbu was struck. but then it does not fit in any way spontaneous strike on a peaceful object in the kremlin today they rejected the accusations of the kiev authorities that russia allegedly fired on civilians, but let's let's listen to dmitry peskov's short comments. the russian federation does not strike at civilian infrastructures, strikes are heard at objects that are somehow
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connected with the military infrastructure in the western press about foreign mercenaries who were present in this cafe are stubbornly silent. the bbc claims that among the victims there are three citizens of colombia, all of them are members of the aguanta organization, ukraine. i heard this for the first time, we sorted it out. it is a non-profit organization with absolutely obscure goals that actually work in the interests. kiev the british edition of the telegraph claims that the pizzeria was a popular gathering place not only uh, not just foreigners, but foreign journalists. and here are the correspondents of the publication. colin freeman talks about his miraculous rescue i was in this cafe earlier around 7 pm i was going to order, but we got called on business and we left . how unpredictable is life in ukraine right now? a sense of security, even close to the front line, everything can change in one second.
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the white house has already condemned the attack on kromotorskaya, but there, as they judged, there is not a word about foreign mercenaries. let's hear from john kirby. we condemn russia's brutal strikes against the people of ukraine which resulted in massive death and destruction and claimed the lives of many ukrainian civilians. well, even in the ukrainian press, the blow to kramatorsk is called such an ominous reminder symbol and they pull out the story of exactly one year ago, if you remember the russian side, then accused of hitting a shopping center in kremenchug there. i said, supposedly 25. uh, i’ll remind you of the then version of kiev who died, at first, an allegedly russian rocket flew into the building of a shopping center in the heat of the day there were almost a thousand people there, but it quickly became clear how everything was in fact a russian strike, then it came from outside the shopping center to the vanguards of the kremenchug plant of road vehicles , western weapons were stored there for shipment to the donbass and
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in the shopping center itself after the destruction military facility caught fire, but no thousands of visitors. there was not but near the scene of the incident by a miraculous coincidence. they turned out to be film crews of western channels, while skyus and nbc journalists, who made reports from there, did not show a single wounded or dead person. andrey vladimirovich there were no foreign mercenaries there. the most important thing i would like to pay attention to. this is not the first time we have struck at crowded places, including foreign mercenaries, but the reactions are always the same, but they pretend that there no foreign mercenaries. no. although formally, it's kind of like there. well, they are private. they turned out to be there, these are not official military personnel of some nato countries there. well, why am i saying that all this is very interesting now, somehow, how to put a tracing paper on the reaction of the west to our saturday events on our land. and there is such a prevailing reaction, as it were , a fright or an attempt, uh, somehow hmm
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, it's not very clear to justify. for what we of course, we can assume that the guys there were somehow aware of, and those plans that were good. well, for now, we can’t prove it especially, so we won’t talk about it, but they say that they are trying with all their might to explain what you are listening to. we have nothing to do with it, we didn't know anything. er, that's a little weird. and when you start to understand this , you get the impression that later there is some information that they are allegedly ukrainians. they tried to hold it back this weekend, so that, god forbid , they didn’t shoot anything here, in general, one gets the impression that there is, probably, after all. these are the notorious red lines, about which we have always been told, but they are probably somehow very deeply hidden, not the ones we imagine them to be. quite right. quite right, ivan sergeevich and, uh
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, the west is actually really afraid of something. and not just the fact that here they are now, we will catch them by the hand. there we will say that here are foreign mercenaries, uh, this is in general okay, but there is some kind of big fear. let's take a look at this first article of ours. i may have imagined something like this for myself, but i have a feeling very strong, is it good or bad that there is such a big fear and the red lines have not yet been broken , oh, which we did not know, well, i don’t know yet, let ’s try to find out somehow. anxiety in the white house appeared as soon as reports from russia joe biden began to arrive on saturday. immediately contacted the leaders of france, germany and great britain, they agreed to closely monitor the situation and maintain close contacts in the coming days, with the us secretary of state bylinkin. frightened journalists by saying that chaos in russia could last for weeks, or even months, and already on monday, biden publicly assured that
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the western allies were not involved in the rebellion. we had to make sure putin didn't have any grounds. i stress no reason to blame this. west or nato, we made it clear that we were not involved. we had nothing to do with it. it was part of the struggle within the russian system. hastened to disown what happened in nato secretary general. alliance jen stonenberg. i stutter as i repeated the mantra that the alliance had nothing to do with it. we we must remember that this is the internal affairs of russia, this is carried to nato, this is the internal affairs of russia in europe, too, kept abreast, as french president manuel macron said on monday about the saturday events in russia. he followed hourly and kept in touch with the main partners. paris macron urged to remain vigilant eu foreign minister met on monday in luxembourg. and they assured that
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they did not interfere in the affairs of russia. these events highlighted the internal tension in the russian system. i i speak within the russian system, because it is important to take into account and i want to speak. this is what, this concerns the internal affairs of russia, but the american television channel cnn claims that the western curators of ukraine are led by the united states. they strongly asked kiev not to shell russian territory during the rebellion, so that the quote does not rock the boat, they say, otherwise the kremlin could suspect the white house of helping and rebel and an encroachment on russian sovereignty. tetniks warned ukrainians not to engage in provocation opportunities in ukrainian territories, but do not interfere in internal affairs and do not strike, we do not want to feed forward military means on russian territory on the radio that this was our initiative.
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because if this is so, this is their initiative, as it was said, a little earlier , an encroachment on the sovereignty of russia, gevor valeevich, then, here, do you agree with the correctness of my feeling that they are now trying with all their might to prove that they really have nothing to do with it, because they were afraid that the kremlin could have formed this is the picture after which we are well, that's it, this is a nuclear feeling, wait a minute aleksandrovich but it 's like everything is straight military a whole series of red lines that developed during the cold war rules have long been violated agreements have been violated on purpose, but there are unshakable things unshakable things nuclear powers are not engaged in the overthrow. uh, a regime in another power. and even more so, its leader has not been trying to eliminate it since the kennedy assassination, such an agreement was reached, otherwise everyone will just shoot each other in a row
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the russian federation could well, especially against the background of these publications, which began to quickly appear in the western media with reference to some unnamed sources in the american administration, to read that some of the nato countries are behind the attempts of the rebellion of the lord, mr. prigozhin , funding, support for information, they did not know it may even simply not matter, but this situation of the russian federation could already be realistically calculated. that the last red lines are broken, and here is the path to a completely unpredictable escalation therefore, it’s no longer just at some undercover conversations and so on that they transmit signals that they are not participating, no , at the public level, at the format of a public statement, they say, no-no-no guys, we have nothing to do with it, but i absolutely disagree with thais about the fact that western countries deliberately held back ukraine so that it would not go on the offensive at that moment, what happened was a big surprise both for them and in order to understand what kind of cunning, kremlin game or real attempt to get closer in moscow, it took some time to agree
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on a discussion, and so on, fortunately for us , the rebellion attempt was very quickly suppressed in a fairly short time. nobody made it to the top. there in uh. let's say that american nato structures make some serious decisions on the ukrainian offensive. they don't say offensive, now a second. everything is correct. they said, yes , we will give you to russia now. can you infect him? well in this case i have to thank the american president, then oh what i've been talking about for six months now. so, starting with a pajama party in bali, today it means the next appearance of these characters , who have a clear directive , primarily from the united states , that the conflict should remain local, it should not internationalize, go beyond the border of ukraine, or rise in escalation level up to a certain point, the wording that you used in your story falls squarely on our nuclear doctrine. an attempt to violate the sovereignty of state integrity russia is being nuked. everything
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is written there. this is precisely the very reason that they are, if they are involved in the coup d'état, chaos, there are revolutions and others, which means they deserve to receive and, by and large . this whole story is such a counter afterword, by the way karaganova. what is the first second? e the last one? in general, the story seemed that the instinct of self-preservation has not died some. well, it's still there, so you can hit these attempts all the time today. well, pretend that there are no foreign mercenaries. this is in general, well, this too little wish for small things. well like little things, little things little things fit into your line stay look. there is no full participation. yes, we will not see how much they will
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try to promote it. now, if they make it out of it, there will be some kind of new storm. it's one of the foreign mercenaries, like we killed civilians in kramatorsk like it's always it's always in german package alexander so far very quiet, actually. let's first alexey sergeevich, then you, as i understand it, did not agree with, uh, the conclusions of georgy, valeryevich yes, first yes, i, of course georgievich it seems to me that he quite rightly mentioned that ukraine was warned against launching an offensive in those territories that they consider their own from striking at the canonical territory of russia in order not to meet the conditions for destabilizing russian sovereignty. it seems to me that this situation has actually highlighted such a new sincerity within the framework of a special military operation within the framework of our war here. west when fried e nu, the mercenary pecked, but obviously we saw that here they are real red lines. yes, you can not violate sovereignty of each other, right? and the fact that the mercenaries , er, what is clear, this is all such a game
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that is fine, we would lead in a way, and from here we see the goals of the west. they are fine. now the west wants to inflict a military defeat on the territory of ukraine on the territory of ukraine and russian and foreign policy ambitions, as in the case of urine, yes, and make russia so safe. well, let's say, a few political castrated countries, and the whole palette is used. if there is such an opportunity they do not need a regime change, they do not are waging a war of annihilation with us, and we are not waging a war of annihilation with them either. you see, in words now there is a smell yes, obviously leo tolstoy in fact , not really, but because, and they don’t want a change of regimes in russia , they don’t want the collapse of russia, they don’t want the spread of nuclear weapons, which sergey, like karaganov, has been talking about in recent months in the hands of all sorts of hired structures of all departments, the national guard, and so on. the task is to defeat us there, knowing this we can
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our strategy, and accordingly adjust and understand what we can do with them. and what can we do with them, at least the russians can sleep peacefully when the country collapses. no one can burn the plot like that until it passes. let's show it, because aleksey sergeevich drew attention to this separately, indeed. the western press highlights this point because they are very worried about the fate of our one and a half thousand warheads so that they do not end up in their hands before we show e. it's all the same, it 's somehow here we are with you, uh, a conflict. well , as it is now customary to say so, proxy war. yes, but it’s all good until the moment when suddenly we don’t understand that oh, it turns out you are going to fight with us for real and i’ll explain right away. now i understand that you are officially with us today. yes, now explain everything. let's see the story first. on the eve of the financial times, the g7 countries were discussing a plan of action in case russian nuclear
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weapons fall into the hands of the rebels, and the old fascist josep barrell even announced a new strategy in case of unforeseen events in it is important for our country to understand that this undermines the military power of russia and affects its political system , it is alarming to observe that such a nuclear power as the russian federation can enter a phase of political instability, and the western press supports nuclear hysteria. the italian publication, the republic reported the leadership of nato even contacted our ministry of defense in order to avoid the citation of the nuclear incident. we at the agent wanted to make sure that nearly 1,500 russian nuclear warheads would not end up in the possession of nuclear rebels. the scarecrow rolled out and the american press. a disturbing claim surfaced that the targets could be more sinister.
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as expected, several accounts shared messages that the ultimate goal of prigogine was actually not moscow, but a nuclear storage facility near voronezh, they decided to add fuel to the fire, and in kiev, president zelensky, a terrorist and a disgrace to the jewish people, once again accused our country of preparing a provocation at the zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant and reproached western partners for not responding sufficiently to a threatening situation. but in the white house, the corners unexpectedly decided to smooth it over and stated that they see no threat to the power plant. and in general, they say the nuclear apocalypse is still being postponed. we don't see any signs other than stormy rhetoric. we do not see any signs that there is any intention to use nuclear weapons on the territory of ukraine antonch, why are they so diligently smoothing corners on the nuclear issue as well? and in general, this biden, about whom alexander could have had all this. it was great not to speak, it was possible there, i don’t know , the police called shoigu and said some words and everything cannot be explained. now everything is mixed
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together. let's go on the shelves, there are two questions that you will already answer. why are they what they are really afraid of and the second. why they renounced different things, what they were afraid of, they were really afraid for them. uh, those who who led the rebels much. it's actually a terrible dream. they are well aware that if a nuclear weapon or some kind of nuclear weapon falls into the hands of these people, then the risks to their national security increase by a factor of their nightmare, so that the radicals came to power and took away, so in the hand of nuclear weapons. this is something that was not feared. it's true. now as to why they repudiated recanted. they have a completely different logic and there is no need to invent again for russia for the president of the red line. moreover, that red line that you named from the point of view that since, uh, it will be recognized means. topics can answer. forgive me, please, to the united states openly brazenly. all the last decades supported regime change,
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supporting those comrades from khodorkovsky to navalny and so on and so forth of all these comrades so that they can somehow change, including the forceful scenario of a change of power in russia according to this logic. the red line was crossed a long time ago , that's not the point at all. the thing is, if you pay attention, they all spoke. and how are you training manual. it’s not us, it’s not us, it’s not us what they were worried about in this case, they were worried that if someone supported the actions that are taking place in russia, spoke out in favor of the rebels, or how in this way dali understand that the west supports these actions, then the russian authorities have the russian president have the russian society. there would be an additional argument that all that happened was they , they, respectively, perfectly, it is clear what the reaction of society would be. this would be an additional recommendation, and this made the russian government
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even much stronger in domestic political matters. and they have a task. look, these are two different things. maybe i didn't make my point very clear. here's the time. just now they mentioned all sorts of khodorkovskys there, they gave there, you can compare someone else, khodorkovsky, of course. now he called there, everyone there, take up arms there la-la rifle. yes, but while he's here, he's kind of sick. well, it wasn’t heavy, armed armed. wait wait a second. i 'm just trying to explain why it seems to me that here is a very logical contradiction between what to say, what we say, see their task is to do. but to strengthen this split in society in russia has been done weaker. it is clear that everything was clear to me, but not to change this power. here.
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look, well damn, here, i really don't understand you. that's what anton was supporting now. they were well aware that they would be loyal to the west. and therefore and therefore they will fully support and continue to support them. and excuse me rebels for them the national number. clear understanding. it is clear in that part that he says why they deny this, that they benefit from a situation in which there is no drilling in russia , because it weakens the possibilities states, including in the line of their own . you understand what's the matter. so you understand, yes, yes, questions
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that do not allow simple interpretations, because if they are really them and the people in our country will see that it is they, it will consolidate even more against those same ones who are even more likely to kill in society and so on. the traffic is not to blame. it 's not me, well, sincerely, don't think that you don't know, instead of 80% it will be 80%. yes change. vaughn valeevich, i still don't believe it. your entire explanation of the west's course of regime change in russia, which he carried out throughout. mm, probably more than a decade. it has now changed the political situation in russia has changed radically. uh is different from the one that was before svo. why, in the first place
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, there are practically no more liberal pro-western forces inside russia that could replace putin in the event of some catastrophic events inside russia, categorically there are some residual elements. and the agents are some people who support them. it's those who don't have don't have virtually no chance of coming to power. now a second of explanation is so small, which means now you can’t try. uh, destroy the existing regime in russia, and yes, counting on something, because no. yes, but there are forces that have a much more radical attitude towards the west, much more radical ones who would like to solve the situation in ukraine and not only in ukraine than vladimir putin and the russian authorities? yes, turbo patriots can be called differently yes, in different structures there are such people in different states, and the more the smell puts pressure on putin now, and this
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we say putin on russia the more now the west puts pressure on russia the more a the more a the further they refuse any talks on ukraine they are in their concessions from any opportunities with russia this is economic pressure military-political pressure, political diplomatic and other topics the more argument. with these more radical anti-westerns, in short, they tried to prove that they had nothing to do with this, so that these are definitely intent, however, they can be very seriously mistaken. here is the equation they they are trying to decide to make it so that the authorities in russia are weaker, but at the same time, so that they are not so weak that some much more western forces come. what if this equation doesn't work? what if, what if the stick is overreacted, and what if it happens look at this rebellion
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we have, that is, the planes shot down the plane helicopters the threat to nuclear potential was not there, thank you. god the authorities made a wise decision, a very bold one indeed, that resolved this situation without further spillage. what if next time, god forbid, it will be if this situation develops differently, well, we are now leaving a little. fine? here. to realize it is also important for them now to realize that they do not need this situation. i mean, wait. well, i want to now, here you are, you said that hmm means strategy. the west has changed, which has been there for decades. well, yes, let's count there somewhere from the thirteenth to the fourteenth year. yes, here they are, so they were striving. we 've got to redo everything. now all this has changed, because, well, probably for them. well, as you say, here is the continuation of such a strategy in your logic. er, well, there are certain risks. and what now they will have then. uh, the strategy is now,
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but they won't stand. unfortunately, they are so drunk on what they see as their success that they can't help but notice. unfortunately for the red line, which will be extremely dangerous for them , the transition, which will be extremely dangerous for them below. and what they revel they believe? consider that what happened, that in russia, uh, there is a destabilization, that their policy did not lead directly. they say that they have nothing to do with it directly, because they believe that they are watching something and can, and that their further pressure on russia can lead to further stabilization. many there are happy about this, but this is not something they should be happy about, there will be a catastrophe in russia. it may well be a catastrophe in the west, and they need to understand this? yes, the whole explanation is unclear here. he said the same thing that i said andrey vladimirovich a short pause, i'll go and consult with the young
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colleague. he will explain everything to me now, let's go, let's go, let's go. and who is this, the shifter and the machine should know like the back of their hand? we 're not going anywhere from here until we do an ecg. good evening, gloomy, someone is heavy without consciousness. today i can’t change me and you shouldn’t threaten me, or you won’t tell me now. where are you from such a crane and i know who you are, i don’t know where. the whole life is such an interesting thing too short to lie in it gosha kutsenko ambulance people
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progressive in quotation marks of the western world, as stated in the explanatory note to this bill , russian ideologies were imposed on the ukrainian people for a long time in many areas of life, including relatively observance of the julian calendar and the celebration of the nativity of christ on january 7th. it was a quote, moreover, two more secular holidays are also proposed to be shifted by 14 days. but this is not actually what pleased the deputies president zelensky the terrorist and the shame of the jewish people he proposes to determine the status of english in ukraine as the language of international communication. what does this mean according to the document , the heads of local administrations, officers, policemen and prosecutors will be required to speak english since kindergarten moreover information about all kinds of cultural and mass events. it will also have to be published in english along with ukrainian; finally, theaters up to 10% of their
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performances will have to be shown in english. well, apparently, the first theater has already appeared in ukraine, which will be so advanced in this english or some other respect. this is the kharkiv drama theater named after pushkin. what is its readiness for? and why is it so advanced from the facade, we decided to remove it from us. yes, the facades decided to remove the first letter of the name of the great russian poet, so now in kharkov there is a pushkin drama theater a-a, the russian drama theater also crossed out the word russian from there, it is reported that all this was done with the cash of the director of this very theater elena tkachenko well, and if madness is not enough for you, let's have more ukrainian innovations. this time we got to the bottom of the city of zaporozhye. you know that in ukraine there is such a commission on the standards of the state language. here is the name of the city itself, now it’s not past, according to
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commission, the name of the city of zaporozhye may not correspond to the quotation with the lexical norms of the ukrainian language or concerns russian imperial policy end of the quotation, the authorities were given six months to resolve the issue of renaming the zaporozhye, if during this time they cannot prove the expediency of preserving the name of the city, zaporizhzhia, then the verkhovna rada will take the hurt and one could call andrei vladimirovich news from a lunatic asylum, but then came the news that mr. zelensky proposes to legalize cannabis on the territory of ukraine and at the same time drugs. it must be marijuana grown on the territory of ukraine, if this is true, then all our previous news, they read quite differently. why are you telling me all this now? i think so hard today. you tell me now, now i think that pushkin in english is ushkin, isn't it? no, okay, he killed me. i mean, it just means, look. if the westerners all say as one now, it's not us, we have nothing to do with their saturday events in russia. we have has its own program, as if there is pressure on
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russia, well, this is such a program. here it is, as if uniform without any emotional outbursts, but absolutely all members of a friendly european family should adhere to this program. and if someone does not adhere to this program, then we will deal with him now. let's see the next material. what are the plans on this topic and further alexey sergeevich you will be asked at the end of last week by the ministers for eu affairs from france and germany in a joint interview reporters were told that the right to summer in the european union may be canceled this year in paris and berlin believes that above all important. abolish unanimous voting in the european council on issues such as foreign policy and taxation unanimous decision-making. this means that if we don't like a solution , we block it until there is another one. so we will not squeeze out the rapidly changing world. of the big states, we need rules that
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will allow us to act faster with the initiative to abolish the right of veta in the eu as early as last year, the old fascist and head of euro-diplomacy, josé barray, spoke out the idea then passionately, supported the german chancellor scholz and the main gynecologist of europe, ursula fonderlyaev , to promote the reform. they even created a group of nine countries, which included germany belgium finland france italy luxembourg the netherlands spain and slavs and the reformers consider it wrong that because of one dissent like hungary, important political decisions of the entire european union are blocked, where today unanimity is required, the risk that one side will use its veto power to prevent everyone else from making progress increases with each additional member state. hungary really often torpedoes pan-european initiatives, such as anti-russian sanctions and aid packages to ukraine, as budapest is now blocking.
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the last 500 million euros to the european union for kiev, the head of the hungarian honey promised to lift the veto if this money goes not for weapons, and in january, hungary threatened to block the next eu sanctions package due to the fact that rosatom appeared on the list as a result, this the item was excluded because of the hungarians the day before viktor orban spoke frankly about the ukrainian conflict, which is really important. so this is what the americans want ukraine has ceased to be a sovereign country, they have no money. there are no weapons. they can only fight because we support them in the west so that if the west decides, if the americans decide that they want peace, there will be peace. so, viktor zhozevich. our previous part said that apparently the western strategy is changing a little. they begin to understand that now try to break existing in our country. political regime. this is already
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a certain risk for, but again, wait a minute alexander yuryevich, wait a minute. don't forget. you me. i mean, while vicewicz said the problem is that these western guys can get too carried away with their successes. i asked, what are the successes you alexey sergeevich said develops this idea that their successes are, as it were, the absence of our successes. they attribute it to themselves, returning to this plot. if all this is done here. and you are hungary which, like a nail , sits there in their shoe. they, then, pull out this shoe from them. euphoria means we are all really united. we would deal with the russians there now. that is, if there is a risk that just here this one of them will work. the feeling of success, they lose control a little. actually, there is not much left for them to do, but here the middle-aged fascist, a was right in the sense that we are coming to , firstly, the creation of new blocs and to the era from the new era of large states. we have
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the us we have russia china and we have this one european polynomial. uh, which is obviously in different directions. yes, when lebed cancer and orban pull you. this is all in different directions, and you do not have a unified policy and there is no power behind this , and therefore this project is unconditional. well , let's just say the foreign policy castration of russia, which they now want to carry out, but instead of, as it were, the dismantling of the regime. we just castrate him, make him safe. for them , this will now become, and the reason is to unite the european union with an iron fist and lead it within the framework of a single us coupling, but to introduce the external political concentration of your expression of the individual countries of the european union and all such castrated people to go to the londons of the united states is true, but for us there is an important point here now. china , for example, has not yet lost hope of building relationships. with each member of the european polynomial, but separately, yes, that is, we communicate with these, we do not communicate with these. let's try to unhook europe from the usa a little. but, if we see how europe
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is united with this iron fist, then this hope will disappear from china and then china will natural way to counterbalance the us to the european union to move closer to us. that is , this is the era of the creation of large blocs and large states. in general, it will be good for us, even if at the cost of castration of some european members. yes, these can be all in a row for god's sake, they are not friendly to us. yes castrated can not enter the womb. it is so that you started there the expression was used intentionally. and i wanted to say that my dear young colleagues are misleading our respected viewers. so, showing a picture. so we now have power in the country and there is such an emerging patriotic opposition such a party of war until the end, that is, until washington restores this is not the case, but you are not a representative of such uh social forces,
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firstly, this simplifies the picture . in fact, it greatly simplifies and even leads away from understanding the processes, the main oppositionist in our country has remained. i hope for a short time the powerful liberal grouping is a mycelium that has sprouted throughout the country precisely the current ones in the government in power now government. this is nabiullina, this village has been financially secured from russia for the past two years, khodorkovsky too. let 's definitely not do anything about khodorkovsky's agents on our air, please. no, wait. yes, alexander overthrows those partners for the west, of course, not rebels,
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demonstrate in a wonderful way that we just have ultra-patriots who want to carry out that's the order. you want to do something with nabiullina there, and at the same time, that’s enough, i don’t want to do anything. what's wrong, right? no you told us that we have to go there no. i think what is a buyout. it is simply very big, probably, it is not limited to being pushed away from power, because it is engaged in sabotage aleksandrovich you are now mirroring, in fact. our story about the european union. yes, conditionally, they say that we do not have unity, there are some people who harass to speak some kind of their truth. yes, and you are now saying the same thing, only about us. yes, but i don’t understand about us, why i say the same correct thing. your attention is drawn to the fact that in this story we are talking about the fact that europe is going to that's really gather in a powerful fist,
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which will be us well, at least in the garage. yes, and you need to eat there some kind of bent fingers, there like hungarians, which you now tell us to bend evenly. everything is fine with us, but we have some elements there. which is necessary, then there will be no powerful kulan different stories. they talk about other things. and i 'm talking about political issues, they are talking about it, these are just procedural issues and that's it. how to vote yes, anton valevich. so the first thing i am against is that in general there were such words kura patriots, there are some patriots know why? because in this obviously negative thing there is a word of a patriot. patriot - this word does not need to be spoiled, and you are a pseudo-patriot that there is a radical well-established do not need this word, for example, do you understand well? the first means that in
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russia, of course, the risks of the so-called pro-western liberal revenge are not going anywhere. they are now much smaller than they were relatively speaking, there 3-5 years 10 years ago. it really is, but it's definitely not those faces whom he called. hey, my dear colleague. so these people, just the same, they can be much more patriots than many of those who scream and beat their chests about patriots, because at least over the past year and a half they have done everything for russia to put up in economic and financial terms and work out . let's be honest, i don't know what other departments have worked like this for five, well , or for 5 minutes, yeah, there are problems everywhere. here, after all, they survived and defended the financial bloc of the government so well. yes we are here in this studio. i don't know they are nobody to me , they are not matchmakers, not brothers, but there is a sense of justice. what is understanding? where we 're going, so i'll speak up for everyone i'm not saying you're wrong . i just don't see the position of you. no,
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so in this studio, and i and victor, as far as i remember, and several other people warned. all the last year and a half, that the risks are such that what happened this weekend now in the current situation is much more, just about those who you call ultrapatriots radii. yes, that is, this risk should not be written off, because colleagues and when we start shouting about some red lines , once again come up with ones that do not exist. we are just the same and pour water on their mill, because we give them the argument of the radicals. and now for this one. uh, i agree that the radicals are not necessarily these people who are before washington and not for another they are for more radical action for fast as they think, more decisively and some of them they really believe in what they say to the last russian. yes, only if the poor
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fire before the victory, then we live in politics, which is much more complicated, and every step and every action has its own price, for some. the price is to put another 100-200.000 of our our men there. this is complete garbage, because it seems to them that it is like this hmm for adequate people. we understand that we must fight for each life and protect each one, and each decision that we propose must have the responsibility of the person who says this, that's what i wanted to say, now i understand about europe, you looked at me with your head, as if alexei sergeevich said about the war before the war before victory, these are two different two different forms, because the war of a victorious end does not mean war to the last russian, probably, of course, these are not equalized concepts. it so clearly does not understand, yes, about europe to the literary patriots let's, let's talk about europe so that
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we do not ask this plot, because about the turbo patriots there you need to include mathematics, which not everyone can mean, let's talk about europe. look, and you quoted orban was much more, in my opinion, the correct quote from his foreign minister, peter, who said that this is the one, and that military hysteria, in my opinion , is like that, he will come up with a term that is now engaged in the european union gives it up to a real catastrophe. and therein lies the problem. i try to clench my fist and throw it, but i don’t press it myself where because he wants to. here he considers it. well, maybe. yes, he clenches his fist for some last in the opinion of the final blow, and some final yes all the same, so that they want to change our political regime, and they want to definitely change the regime in russia, but not by direct influence by indirect support of the military uprising again. once again it's red lines and two regime changes from a point of view. the west can only be controlled under the control of the western regime
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, there should be no russian radicals, because the button is all, vector said that, relatively speaking, there are no people in the liberal environment who can become these controlled. a alexandrovich says that there are no creatures, therefore, either the radicals are conditional for us , uh, bad or there, then the liberals are here for whom this knowledge is eternal at some point. these people may be against the west, but they may be subject to control and yes, as if influenced by let's say so subject to processing by money, anything, there are just hard-nosed radicals who are exactly ours. that is, here is a radical that is straight. here he, too, can lead with the help of patriotic slogans, but you can’t buy him and you won’t put him under control. and if you have portunists, who now occupy one position, because such a trend is so correct in this case to occupy. but what if
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our television season is slowly coming to an end. i will remind you friends about our meetings with you. here are my personal ones in july in the crimea, i hope you will come there to rest, which means there will be five concerts, in the last decade in july, july 20 and evpatoria and the pushkin theater on july 21, sevastopol was officers of the fleet, 23 feodosia city palace of culture, 25, yalta theater chekhov and the twenty-ninth shipbuilder dk shipbuilder, city of kerch so we will have a busy summer. and i hope everyone who will go soon is on vacation, and as for vacations and vacations for our schoolchildren, the younger ones are in full swing. but the graduates of the applicants. they still know that they are not quite formed, because, and the examination time is every time a reason to talk. uh, about our
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school education and lose, especially since that's just recently just a few days ago. uh, the liberal democratic party announced another such own initiative, how to deal with the exam that is, i'm practically here, probably, a member of the liberal democratic party, because i, of course, had my will. okay, i'm getting ahead of myself a little. let 's now first vanya with news on the situation at the front, because so far we have not touched on this today, and then then we will move on to the topic. yes, let's first then operational reports. so ukraine is trying to attack several of the directorates, but so far, all this has been unsuccessful on wednesday , ukrainian troops once again tried to shell the city melitopol is a city in the south of the zaporozhye region. the shelling began at 10:40. this morning , it is reported that the air defense system worked and all the missiles fired by the ukrainian side were shot down ; it is not known whether there were any casualties or damage as a result of this attack, that is, at the moment. we believe that they are not the deputy minister of defense. nany anna painter
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says that the ukrainian troops are trying to advance near artyomovsk, but she has been calling him a bang for the fourth day, but everything is moving in this direction with difficulty. why because supposedly ukrainian the troops left a lot of fortifications there before artyomovsky left, and now our troops have occupied them, and now the ukrainians are very difficult to attack. here is such a one. our defenders daily move along the flanks gradually, but confidently, the city of bakhmut as of today did not enter the liberation of this direction has its own peculiarity, which complicates the process. the terrain of bakhmut and the suburbs has a developed system of engineering fortifications and an extensive network of strongholds. all. it was in due time, prepared our military and local authorities for defense. actually, what helped to keep the city for so long, but now these fortifications and strongholds have been occupied by the enemy in the west , officials continue to say that the ukrainian offensive is moving extremely
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slowly. here is the speaker on important issues and the defense of the american white house, john kirby , he says that the russian defense slowed down the ukrainian force. the russians have invested a lot in the past 6-8 months in defensive capabilities, in some cases they have three lines of defense in depth when i say three lines. i mean miles and miles and miles deep and three big lines of defense. they knew that the ukrainians were going to return the territory in spring and summer. and they worked to prepare for this in kiev, forced to make excuses. so the minister of defense of ukraine mr. reznikov says that wait, they say, everything is still ahead. and in general , there are certain successes, but they are still classified, but behind me is mr. kuleba. he also complains that because of the stubborn russians, everything is not may come. as we are used to seeing minefields, fortified lines, defenses and russian dominance in
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the air in hollywood films. these are the three factors that pose the main obstacles to us, but we still run away gradually. i understand that we are the generation of netflix, and everyone wants a blockbuster, but sometimes things take time to develop, especially when the lives of people are at stake . life the counteroffensive somehow will not change, then you have to negotiate. here is the washington post edition, and-a publishes a column of a harvard professor, his name is graham alison , he just argues that if the ukrainian offensive continues at the current pace. that's how it's going now, it will take 16 years of attention to return the lost territories, 16 years with the ram. i, probably, all of us can go to our topic of the hour. yeah hmm so we don't turn into the netflyx generation.
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if the ukrainians like it there, for god's sake means ltr. i said their initiative is another proposal. ah, they say that it is necessary to cancel the exam and return to the classic exam in some form, which was once adopted in ours. let's call it there the soviet school. but when i finished school there, and vanya probably did too, right? you probably didn't make it. i was the last year in moscow who did not give food. it was 201 then. we will now look at our material and just boris aleksandrovich asks the first question. one of the main arguments for the introduction of the unified state examination was called equal chances for all graduates when entering universities, the process of submitting documents is remote, which means that applicants from the regions do not need to spend money on travel and living in cities does not affect the chances of admission to a weaker education in the periphery. now universities in moscow and st. petersburg enter 70% and on the road. although before the introduction of the unified state examination there were no more than
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a quarter of them, the number of students from the villages has increased in regional universities. now such students. there's half the system. she is quite democratic. yes it allows anyone to pass if he is purposeful, if he prepared well and made efforts to enter the second advantage of the unified state examination, the fight against corruption, the introduction of a single exam, excluded giving a bribe when entering a university. yes, and the test itself is the same for everyone, and therefore the overall result is more objective, however. scandals. all the same , they take place in one of the novorossiysk schools this year during the unified state examination in the russian language , spelling dictionaries were laid out in the audience. as a result, the results of thirty-three students. annulled, canceled in one school in dagestan oge results after it became. it is known that 96 out of a hundred schoolchildren received third-party assistance. in total , more than 600 people were removed from the unified state examination this year in composition as of june 14. we have removed more than 600
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people in part of 618 people. the main reason for the removal was cheat sheets 51%. and means of communication. 33% of the results of violations of the violator are canceled and therefore they cannot pass the exams in the current year only in a year more on logic than on real knowledge, and therefore answers can be selected by the method of exceptions, moreover, graduation classes. now they are not so much studying. how many schoolchildren are teaching exams, as a result, the level of preparation of students is falling, i'm talking about mathematics, and the tasks that are in it are absolutely the same and having solved the previous five exams, you will solve this one, well, exactly for 85 years. but if you're not an idiot there, i don't know, if not everything is bad at all, but with you. so boris
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alexandrovich here. if you ask me what i don’t like the exam, but i didn’t take the unified state exam. i had others. i can’t explain it with arguments, but i kind of have a feeling that well , children leave school less developed than when i studied. if you propose to cancel the exam, you must have arguments. these are the arguments - this is short, what i really don’t like about the first exam is when they offered to conduct it very beautifully 22 years ago. everything sounded. well, allegedly there will be no corruption and much less corruption. this is a plus. a, but most importantly, education in the country has improved. in general, education in the country has deteriorated. on the whole, there are already few people who come from the villages to pass, because for the guys from the villages who come there is no way to get the same access to knowledge to a good pre i just said that 70% of non-residents
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in moscow and in st. petersburg and in regional universities 50% are just guys from regional universities in moscow and st. petersburg comes, uh, guys from other cities, but those who study in very good schools, where there is an opportunity to come to tutors. uh, the number of tutors increases in demand for tutors increases every use from the eighth grade. children do not study, they are all engaged in cramming, then wait for the exam. well, if we are correctly aware of your biography, then you passed the exam. here, however, it did not affect the achievement of certain careers a few. yes, wait for higher education honorary professor you have scientific degrees. so how would you and imposed your education of 22 years is deteriorating. that is
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, you are the last one who passed the exam and at such a young age it just ended. uh, this is a test story, that is, an optional state exam. uh, only ended in 2007. uh, talking about the fact that the teachers began to leave experienced teachers who took care of the children, who helped them. uh, basically getting that most important basic education. they are going away. we will now take teachers to school because of the spo. everyone is looking for a step. we generally from the tenth grade will be first-class. this is a big problem. we brought education. well, as far as i remember, just my time before entering the faculty of journalism of moscow state university was the first there for 2 years. before it was it's not about studying anymore. it was about the fact that you described the communication with the tutor. i did not pass the exam, it was to get there. that's it. what's the difference? what kind of use run by tutors and without the use in themselves ran for four years, not four years, they take for themselves when there were exams, they took some topic, uh,
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to study more widely. uh, there are some additional materials to get, and here from the eighth grade. coaching for the unified state examination begins , people skip non-core places in order to try to make a versatile school graduate from a teenager out of this child there a personality, according to boris alexandrovich's dear colleagues in the ldpr faction, but it’s just memorizing those correct answers that you need to substitute in this tablet in this plate like this. uh, what's there in there? i don't know. i like the peremptory nature of boris alexandrovich and his colleague professor. e no. that's it, then he organized everything, so he falls short of higher education. how many one here, and he says one thing, i like it without appeal is good when they say that is the general level of education in the country
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fell. i want to ask a question. what are you measuring in parrots? we simply do not have international studies that the russian federation conducted within the country. i rely on science, but rather, not like that. i rely on the rear vciom, where at first they measured with a ruler in one village, and carried it out in another village. that's what sociology is, now let's go back, i say, therefore, where they measured, the ruler was 15, yes, where surveys were conducted for 30 years, we absolutely return to the essence of the issue, when you say that the exam should be canceled. i'll just remind you that it's seasonal really a phenomenon, but just the communists, uh, always call for abolition. uh, here it is, uh, constant winter summer time, and the liberal democratic party always calls for the unified state exam and so there is nothing new here. no, it means at least somehow you need to show your
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influence and hand out your daughter. yes son still to be, like uh. they went through it , there were many opportunities to observe. so i can tell you that what children experience, maybe i'm wrong. this is not about education, but psychologically, what children experience before the exam does not go to any comparison there with the fact that i was there when i graduated from school or tried to go to college there. i took it easy. and they just have them. excuse me, the arguments don’t work well, because before my own, not before entering the fact, i remember how the worst days are in mine, because it’s just normal, because if i add a second time to drink now, then i would probably got drunk before the exam. well, something like this, i have stress , you don’t think that now it’s some kind of huge completely psychological one. here comes the blow. of course not, because the child prepares, he no longer worries so much. you understand that if a child does not pass the exam, then
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life begins like this, that's what he planned for himself there. it all flies to hell, because the next year you have to retake it there or something else, of course, but only, uh, in the first year, when i entered the faculty of history there, i did not enter. well , they did. you are stress for me, of course, there was stress, and then i had to re- enter, and then re-enter again, because i decided to change the university. so endlessly. this same e three times deftly experienced the same stress twice. how many children died, how many died did it count or not? decide i'll add. let's party position, that is the first dear colleagues. why are we against? by the way, i think that we also support the first, and this is a tragedy for children, and the result of this tragedy is suicide, a repeated incident, and the life of a child. you know, it's not worth anything, that is, it's not worth the effort that children put in to let's just go very far. those technical errors
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about, which we have heard say that for these many years nothing is ready, have not been able to prepare for these years. we have already experimented with the balloon system. to what we came to its transformation, the same, i'm sure it will be here, moreover , i want to say who wants to bypass the exam, he does it. he enters the sport and calmly after the ninth grade, having received an average score. a worthy student takes an exam, studies, and then goes to a higher educational institution who did not pass the exam. that is, there has long been an option, too. yes. and the most. the main thing i want to say. you know, why we are not prepared for the level of wages of our teachers is a penny and therefore there is no opportunity for training for children and they use numerous tutors and moreover, i want to say that children do not go to rural schools to study in the tenth or eleventh grade. why is the school closing? cause they go to spo well maybe huh? you do the right thing to learn here. how is the use how
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effective is it? uh, for a student, first of all a moment. i am an use expert, moreover, and it seems to me that what they say about huge nerves for children. it's really. right. i see from my students that there is a huge emotional burden. it exists, but i agree with you that when i entered moscow state university, for example, at the faculty of economics , i issued exams. it was the same kind of stress. we didn’t sleep at night, and here we either need to cancel the exams altogether, or if we leave some exams, we need to work specifically with the psychological health of children. with psychologists, it’s more likely to develop some kind of programs or something, it seems to me that there are two psychos with you. as they say, it didn't exist. that's such a huge fear did not change, because you knew you would not pass. now you will go to the use school to give the opportunity to half of vladimirovich give us the opportunity now to communicate, too, in the whole word of the use from my point of view. indeed, he has more plus. than minuses, because he evens
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the odds, as already said, in your story e guys, and uh, for a long time. as i understand it, even the liberal democratic party does not talk about any checkmarks, because it is very difficult to pass it for a high score. yes, less than 11,000 people pass math for 100 points now, that is, rather difficult serious exams. in the soviet union, there were also difficult written entrance exams. how can you explain this to me, i don’t know, maybe it’s a tumor already, yes, that, uh, people came out of the soviet school. like i said versatile. and now we have the unified state examination that produces such fools, who actually do not know anything, except for the correct answers they have learned. i don't agree with you. here's how you can absolutely agree with you that this opinion is not right. of course , i'm sure that it is wrong. i communicate closely with children with teenagers. and a. they are just different and you would be the same as them if you were given the internet yourself as a child, and you would not want to either. there, for example, walking on the street there, do not know why. muravyov, would you like
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to surf the internet from morning to evening? we must look at the fact that we have an information age, an information world, not russia, these start the internet and all that - this is much more, but it affects children more than the use, i'm sure. now we just have the following piece in the development of just this thought, and then our other guests will also discussions will join. object you will wait at the address that you will receive right before the meeting to pick up the object, provide documents and deliver the border. take whatever you find.
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, a place where everything becomes clear and we continue to stop at the words of anton yuryevich that today's children are young people are different, because they have had the internet since childhood. and we would be the same if we had the internet since childhood, i didn’t have the internet as a child, and we had a class there for those who want to become an economist and lawyer. and now , since you wanted to become a journalist , something like this, the internet has penetrated your whole life, then people young people link their model of success directly. so with some alternative blogging, we call it the tiktok generation. let's see the plot. as it turned out in the course of recent questions, most of the youth associate personal success with an interesting job and material wealth, while a little more than a third of modern schoolchildren dream of starting their own business, while the vast majority of already working young people, according to polls, 80% are ready to quit their job in order to become a blogger with all our subscribers to convey our energy so that they, just like we, are not afraid of public
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opinion principles. and all of this they did what they want, sociologists explain the craving for this kind of activity in the eyes of young people, a blogger is such a successful person of the new time. he is recognizably making good money and doing what he likes according to the ramir company in the list of the most adored youth bloggers. nastya ivleeva karina cross and dogavich and the fact that modern idols sometimes do not know and elementary things does not bother anyone. who wrote the novel. paint me some more one button. look, well, i may not know that. this is fine. this does not prevent me from living and earning money, in general, the fact that knowledge is not the main thing today, they say, young people themselves say that school gives a lot of unnecessary information. everything you need can always be googled , and the role of the teacher is changing, according to experts , the teacher is now becoming more of a mentor and colleague in the educational
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process. he no longer transmits knowledge, but directs the student. two tasks come to the fore, the first to captivate the child and the second to organize the educational process here, then an environment in which the student himself can learn these skills - it is the ability to be different to change throughout life comes to the fore. well, it’s not the use that’s to blame, that young people have become different, or you also know the use, too, uh, the fact is that despite the fact that i don’t belong to the liberal democratic party bye, bye. i want to say one simple thought, when we analyze, uh, those who have the quality of knowledge that we have now graduates with very high scores on the unified state examination, then you will be very surprised, they cannot pass the elementary tests of higher educational institutions in the first year. you ask any teacher of the moscow state university of physics and technology. they are shocked, because they get these students, having corresponding grades from the unified state examination and banal things. they don't know
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and i also really enjoy looking at the pictures. yes, why are they so, because they had no time to do this, it means that we just have a moscow teacher in moscow, the unified state examination , it is set at a very tough and high level, as the unified state examination is set in dagestan for inexpensive. that is, there corruption just shifted for a second. look, look what the students and their uh, geography at mgimo look, you will have everything at once. it's clear. these are obvious things. let me explain one thing , the mechanism of coaching for the exam is detrimental to any education, because the system of critical thinking in a child is killed in the bud. no need to think, just memorize. and this is exactly what it is. uh, in fact, the root of evil, uh, which the unified state examination brought us. therefore, my personal position. i think that, of course, the use should be gradually abandoned. yes, of course we need it. uh, a very objective evaluation system in my
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opinion. she should not be at school, but either at independent uh institutions, or uh before the unified state examination and i remember that physics, which i honestly didn’t understand with my teeth, nor geometry, which i understood, i just crammed physics in the same way. so it is memorized by heart andreevich memorized the formulas because my head. maybe she's stupid, my head, too, she was nothing. well, i'm generally fine. but for those talented guys who have a technical mindset, they, unfortunately, too. they don’t have the opportunity at school, but they received the education that we received without tutors at the fest, what you said at the very beginning is mikhail borisovich as a person who periodically encounters graduate bags. that's what they really do, as if they come with serious gaps with such other questions. we are colleagues. i still teach social sciences, so i have a completely different impression. it seems that this system of some kind of exams it does not
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play a major role, but in the development of students, firstly, because they receive these exams already at a fairly decent age. yes, teenage, that is, 10 years. them something taught. there bad good not very good, but exams. in general, let's say they show their ability to learn. yes, there is something to cram something there or to perceive volumes. here is a critical thought. they never show up. eh, can a person think? yes, but it seems to me that it is very difficult to find out in exams in general. can a man thought it can be found out if we talk? yes, but critics boris alexandrovich yes? what is it? nothing, just listen. fine. no need. this citation of the classics. so, look, if anything, the critics of this system say
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, if you are not engaged in graduation classes, you are trying to creatively develop the child, including what to teach him to think critically, but simply train him for the exam. so where, then, does he get this ability to think critically, but he sits for a year, or even two, and simply memorizes these answers, like trushkin, who struggled with physics. there i graduated from a soviet school and entered a soviet university, listen, we had two exams, that is, two stages of exams. yes but we also studied, including cramming in sochi. we didn’t write at school, right? so it 's us, too, we were taught by teachers. how to write an essay ? i had to pass at school in all subjects, in fact, exams. yes, in the soviet school. don't excuse me, but then i had to go to university , i didn't have to take a lot of all sorts
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of exams. yes, another question is that i just like that, then it was possible, if you in some well, so i entered the big university of st. petersburg yes, i entered, but someone didn’t enter and immediately, let’s say, i was able to pass to some pedagogical one. this is good. that is, you can try yourself on the top bar later, if you can't take it, you went a little lower to try to take it. this, it seems to me, is very good. here is the unified state examination, if it were given, now it would be very good, that is, the unified state examination, if the unified state examination could be passed in a month, let's say, in two. this is another point. here i liked it. uh, a colleague, a communist deputy, said that the ltp team is not for anyone either, they act with a powerful fist. i understand, but i was also so offended. you know why they say that they are against the unified state examination , because there you can’t
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give this one and only correct answer, but there you have to choose, there was such a joke. well, well, i liked that he said that teachers receive little money. i just think that everything will change when the costs will receive less than the pedal and so on. well, the problem is that the deputies decide to see, yes, not the deputies citizens of the security level, you jumped right when it was said about corruption. yes, simply in connection with the fact that today is still a holiday, including dagestan in the sulfurous caucasus, eid al-adha to congratulate everyone. yes, i want to congratulate everyone on this holiday. eh, i take the opportunity. and when we give an example of some leaks about how they rent in a particular region and compare it with moscow, this is all left in the past. pay attention even to the plot that was shown here statistically 60 people 100 people. a
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total of 600 people. it's not much and who's in it is clearly not the use system that is to blame for this, because yes, there are distortions in the field, where they put dictionaries, for example, but no one forces the guys to bring cheat sheets or other sound recording devices there. and of course. here, i would like to say the second thing, which means that the growth of supervision, as a structure that introduces the unified state examination, is also ready for constructive here, the main word is a constructive proposal for an exercise of corruption violation. this is not the main thing, this is not a problem, so the exam is changing and now here i will join the words of boris alexandrovich regarding the fact that poor information work is going on, we are still living in myths that the use is a choice of four answers and that's it. there is also a writing block, there is a block associated with some kind of creative thinking, and so on with solving real problems, where it concerns some kind of computational operations, and so on. and of course, here once again to support regarding the possibility of retaking, when
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the child, due to a stressful situation, and so on, brings a cheat sheet. and suddenly he can haven't even used it yet. she drops out of him for his exam being removed. and for a year. he loses the opportunity to pass this exam. this is where part of the big problem lies. psychological need to be given the opportunity to pass this exam. may be an understatement of ba. like this, but not in a year, well, nothing will be reduced by this, just the heat on the plant. and if you take a wider look, so that not only about the unified state examination specifically, how does he say such a test part for a student, but in general about education, how easy it has become, washed or about school? yes, there how much it has become, lighter compared to what it was 20 years ago, because there are such reproaches that the use is a consequence of the fact that at school they now teach less somehow more on the surface, and so on. no, of course, they don't teach less at school. uh, on the contrary, for facing really serious problems, which were mentioned in passing, when
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the teacher's rate is 75% of teachers, and the rate is less than the cost of living is less than the mouth is less than the mouth, so in order to work you i have to take several rates, and the depreciation of educational institutions, the depreciation of those materials on which the children study, some problems were said, and when i studied, this is it. this is directly more pronounced, but only now there is definitely a tool that fixes this, including problems, but the use fixes a problem in russian education, but it’s obvious yes, they said, uh, in your story that equality of chances is more likely not a chance, but rather a possibility. well it's true, it's all recognized that people from small towns can come and enroll in moscow universities , which was very rare before. and now it's really possible, then those arguments that were against the unified state examination well, they are about the best. excuse andrey vladimirovich that before the girls were younger, the sun shone brighter, the trees were taller. approximately like this because
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everything i talk about, i apologize to me. ok then. don't ever apologize. don’t excuse me, don’t excuse me andrey vladimirovich, because indeed there were no collections of essays that were memorized, they didn’t leak in the task. from what, by the way, almost now there is no, but before everyone knew this, especially from the far east, you could call to inform, right? all this was leaking, so, of course, the use is a much fairer tool than it was before. this is true. whether it can be improved can only be welcomed, but in fact , it is not necessary to change the thermometer, which says that you have a fever, that you are sick, but to treat all the problems that are teachers' salaries, but this is obvious. well, the truth is, this is all there so that the teacher can not only to train for the unified state examination well, to engage in creativity in human development, at school he remarkably answered that everyone listened , spent a few minutes on, but you still didn’t answer the question that
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you didn’t study less from the very beginning, because if a person hasn’t gone to work in school. he is definitely a creative person. fine? and then we'll take it now and hmm a little bit like this , turn everything upside down, as we like. yes, as we love, but in a few minutes. got access to her data, you know what can happen maximum your daughter. i worry. and you? you 'll survive, now this woman wants a man to lean on. i just read the mail of pavel gromov and there it was written in the letter. you know what your father is.
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that is, so that children go to colleges, so that children go to technical schools, so that they get working professions, because we don’t have jobs at all, if i understand correctly, the same statistics, but these efforts are not in vain, because we have more and more children every year. uh, so this is ninth grade. yeah they finish handing this one their oge and go to college and technical school. and those who pass the exam in order to go to the university are becoming less and less. please. show us last week, prime minister mikhail mishustin, at a meeting with employees of the kazan aviation plant, raised the topic of working specialties in russia according to him , engineers and technologists. feet are now the most important professions for a country dearer. mishustin expressed the opinion that higher education is generally not a prerequisite for a successful career. guys who are professionals, who will u graduate from a good college, uh, a good technical school, yes, but now they are called that or they will get professionalism absolutely
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as well as those who sometimes have higher education, but turn the nut on the letter. the fact that russia needs to develop secondary vocational education was discussed in april, and in the federation council, speakers valentina matvienko then said that vocational education is on the rise, more and more graduates of the ninth and 11th grades continue their education not in universities, but in technical schools and colleges before we are faced with the task of preparing for the production of specialists of a new format capable of quickly integrating into the changers who have lost so, for example, in the kirov region and the number of budget places for those wishing to receive secondary specialized education has grown by almost 10%. the popularity of colleges and technical schools in novosibirsk is growing now. almost 70,000 people study there, according to the ministry of foreign affairs of education in 2024 , for the first time in the history of modern russia , there will be more graduates and colleges than
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university graduates. if earlier we in the region, more people wanted more graduates and their parents wanted their children to enter a university, today we are seeing a trend, not exactly the opposite, but we are seeing a sharp surge and interest in the profession and specialties of secondary vocational education. many different schoolchildren do not go to universities tired of studying, according to ipsos, the number of schoolchildren who believe that it is important to learn something new all their lives is falling, some are simply afraid to take the unified state examination, while others dream of starting to earn money as soon as possible. so vadimchik maybe then, in general, how would the exam be left alone. er, yes. no, you're just watching. now children think a little differently, if my generation was considered obligatory for us to have a higher education, because without it they didn’t even take you, even for the position of a janitor. let's say so, but to be honest
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, uh, like if you go to a vocational school, they go to college, so they are stupid. well, that's how it was with us. yes, now the next moment is now. uh, modern kids. by the way, i have great respect for them, because they there is a feeling that they are building their lives much more rationally than us, that is, they are looking at several years ahead, assuming. and what will they do? how much will they earn if they decorate? no. right. they look ahead. oh in general, nowhere you would know how my daughter chose her specialty there. now she is studying to be a dentist, but she has been there for the last 2 years of school. just juggling going there. no, i'll go here. no, here i will earn less for this better. i will choose this and now children. they are beautiful to see that a competencies are in demand, not crusts. we have food. there was nowhere without a crust. now those are required from you exactly some skills that you can do either with your head or with your hands. they
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see perfectly well that welders earn good money. they perfectly see that a good plumber. now in demand. eh, like never before, the other royal competence center, at the exit, the child immediately receives 80,000, but they really are all pre-prepared already. what kind of energy is there and everything. this is one example. well, i just know it myself, so now they are absolutely rational thought they do not seek. well , definitely boris alexandrovich has the same question. uh, maybe then to hell with him with this use well, if you understand, yes, they are now ready to take a large number of driving exams, here, uh, you can’t share the use oget, about the same easier exam. yes, uh, but still the problems are the same there, by the way, he is less controlled by the oge. uh, here the conversation is not about whether you need to stop talking to the use anyway, it’s a big one. if we have it now, it turns out that everything more and more children go for
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vocational education. they are overpriced, well , you are in some kind of problem, you see, this is good. i continued even now higher education specialties appear and the universities themselves are transformed in order to, in addition to uh, classes at their desks. create practically. here is the russian biotechnological university, i know it well. um, there's basically not that many lectures. how many practical things they do with this food industry of these legs, uh, and bioengineering biodesign is not, in the sense, there, uh, flower. yes, very interesting approaches. uh, the state opens up a large number of state-funded places and transfers them to technical universities, that is, here. you cannot separate one from the other. e, here everything is together and the key point is not in the methods of certification and testing of knowledge, but in the quality of education. unfortunately, we stop fighting for this and orientate that quality is why, for example, ivan sergeyevich had to suffer with
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physics, which, well, he doesn’t really need. well, i'm just stupid, but you don't really need physics at all. so you can not geography learn. there is an appendix, because of geography, in general, we can return to these words of vladimir viktorovich that kim's young people are set up differently, and they sit and consider where they will succeed, where they will not succeed, rationally, really it’s so true that i don’t remember that we have schoolchildren in the tenth or eleventh grade somehow. here we were at this point, there was just an understanding, some of my classmates were going somewhere where it was less disgusting. well, it's impossible to give a definitive answer right now. i work in very good schools. and there, children are much more serious about the choice of their future profession than i once was on the other side of my colleagues who work there in some ordinary schools. it is said that some are also much nasty to me. wait, what influences the choice of a profession, if the child already knows what he wants to do? after a few years, to do it and there, ideally, all his life , the school education process somehow influences this choice or
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not, it indirectly affects it. this is not the first thing the child cleans up. that is, there is if there the choice of a profession, for example, is connected with languages, yes, but at school they don’t give him e strong there, he needs some. there are oriental languages, for example, yes, then in any case it is sort of like now yes , yes, yes, or there is some kind of programming, yes, there are these oge and use well, already there, i don’t know, what is the sixth there is the seventh grade. and so. he says that i will not teach this physics. i don't need it and have nothing to do with it. so this is a very debatable issue. how is the transfer? i believe that one must be versatile, some believe, on the contrary, you know what you need there, how to hit a fountain at one point, no matter how physics is there, if you don’t need it, don’t suffer, it seems to me good. who needs these prescriptions now, if therefore logic, then he really doesn’t need them, but you can’t all just
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need them. and how does he write any computer typos at all. i will print, he says, why do i need these prescriptions , you understand, here you can’t follow the students here, you just need to go from, uh, what tasks we are solving, for example, the fact that secondary vocational education is now developing education - this is great, because we really need good turners. we need good locksmiths. we need good specialists with secondary vocational education, because there is a huge demand for them. here i told you. we were looking for a welder in st. petersburg. e of a high category was found alone, one at that time he was more than seventy-eight years old. he earns, that he earned for a second a month more than three hundred and fifty thousand rubles, and it was very worthwhile that he cooked the necessary, rather of all, let's not go to the other extreme, when we have people with higher education. somehow it will get smaller and smaller. well, on it, probably, they are also needed for something. no, you understand, people with higher education, of course, are needed. just around the should be
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the principle of reasonable sufficiency. and when everyone gets a higher education, but then they don’t go to work outside their specialty. i don’t see any point in this at all, but as for, uh, higher education in general, and is it necessary to create, uh, a good quality assessment system, of course it is necessary, because in fact it is the desire of a person to increase knowledge and to acquire a new specialty of higher education that should be the basis, but i draw your attention. how can we now conduct the unified state examination in a standardized way, if we do not have a non-standardized textbooks and we do not have a program. i answer you. we teach textbooks differently in different schools. we have different programs in different regions. explain to me, please automate. sorry, let's go now and those who didn't put it up, now the final let's ask some questions. welcome wifey. he just came and took her like
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vocational education to higher education, right? here you need to change something for you to change or to leave unchanged. i believe that the unified state examination will be canceled sooner or later, i want to unexpectedly declare this, but not as a result, of course, your bill and with all due respect, i do not think that the state duma will support it, but for a while. maybe it can take a decade, maybe a little more, but in the process of transformation, the digital transformation of the school, when it accumulates over the years of teaching the school, i realized that this is the result, vladimir vladimirovich additionally support us as you wish. at this stage, of course. uh, i also think so that the ldpr law will not be adopted, what needs to be changed now until the law passes. the first is most. the main thing is that those tests are in line with the curriculum that is taught in schools. it doesn't match. i can give examples now the second is to raise salaries and the level of teachers. uh, take off their reporting load
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so they get decent money, not tutors. everything let's limit ourselves to these two points for now. i understood nikolay igorevich. the exam needs to be saved. uh, it needs to be developed, what to change to avoid demonstrative disrespect or suspicion towards schoolchildren and teachers. a if something is changed, it really needs to be changed, this is what they were talking about, to understand that our future is a school, and not cannons internet salaries in every school. not even in motive mikhail borisovich i think that the main problem of teaching is not in the unified state examination, but in the position of teachers. it is rather heavy of all that they receive little and are burdened with completely non- pedagogical issues. here are the reports and so on, but in the exam, give the opportunity to retake it not in a year, but in a month or so, to separate exact sciences from social and humanitarian. they should be completely different. so anton agrees to give the opportunity to retake. i would introduce different weights. if, for example, one arrives physically,
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then physics must. do not equate to mathematics in terms of points. yes, that is, such different weights, not completely obsessing over the unified state examination, more to lead some additional chances for admission, like a portfolio contest or something like that, but i would also introduce the unified state examination at universities to check the quality of our higher education too. i am very short. i really hope that if some variables follow, they will not be so spontaneous. you know, like winter, crept up unnoticed in january about these changes , first of all, to schoolchildren who continue to prepare and memorize something, it will be announced for a year, or even two, so that they somehow rebuild themselves. well, all the same, if you allow me to stand a little in my previous positions, uh, from which i entered this conversation, because i can’t rebuild the exam in literature so quickly, they say this year. e question, what is mixed up in the house of oblonsky answers, and everything would be fine with you
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