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[000:00:00;00] in a damn visit by the presidents of poland or lithuania, how they set zelensky on belarus, belarus is essentially changing the security architecture in our region indecent proposal kiev was offended by the invitation to the nato summit why kiev’s speech was thrown out of the main program to begin with, ukraine must defeat the conflict with russia is extremely wrong. berlin intends to ban an alternative for germany, which the descendants of the third reich were afraid of, they vote for us all over the country. watch right now. hello this place meeting on ntv a place where everything becomes clear? i'm andrey norkin. my colleague is ivan trushkin. we are working live. well , forgive me for the banality, i can't help but repeat about the two worlds, the two shoppers, such a well-known formulation.
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yesterday was eid al-adha, one of the main islamic holidays in sweden with the permission of the authorities, and under the close supervision of the police. uh, they burned the koran there they first played football. and there two such fools threw their legs around like that, and the koran a. then they burned it. here the police looked at this we have the president of russia coming to dagestan in general, the muslim religion holds a meeting in derbent on the development of tourism. just here in the north caucasus, putin was also presented with the koran. and putin also talked with local residents. i want to see
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how it happened. putin also visited the most ancient mosque, the most ancient fortress of dagestan, naryn-kala, where the mufti gave him, in fact, the bark, on which andrei vladimirovich had already mentioned, and now vladimir putin, accepting the gift , argued that disrespect for the holy for muslims books. it just leads to sectarian strife and enmity. this is a shrine and a muslim, and for all others the territory should and is holy, we know what they do in other countries, otherwise they don’t respect the religious feelings of people in our country. this is a crime under article 28 of the criminal code of the russian federation and we
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will always adhere to these rules absolutely differently. it's not just on the day of eid al-adha. such an anti-muslim rally was allowed, but at this rally the authorities did not prevent some incomprehensible people began to burn, which means a provocation by burning the koran at the heads. mosques, by the way, in the swedish capital were arranged by a refugee from iraq, the police looked at it all in silence, since the action was approved in advance by the authorities of the country, it was stated that this was being done in order to promote western values ​​and freedom of speech and pluralism of opinion. those who tried to prevent the desecration of sacred scripture. their law enforcement officers drove them aside and even detained a man who tried to throw an arsonist at me . i have already commented on the story. here you see the swedish prime minister spoke in the spirit that everything is legal in general , but really it’s somehow not very appropriate, that they say the burning of the koran can harm the long-term interests of the kingdom. speech about the country’s application to
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join nato, which has not yet been approved by turkey. and here’s how turkey reacts the foreign minister of this country. khan fidan. he not only condemned the burning of the koran, he said that he cursed sweden. after all these events. and if the authorities, sweden again quote efidan, if the swedish authorities turn a blind eye to all this. this means they act with accomplices similar actions. well , the united states department of state. hmm. excuse me, showing traditional flexibility. he admits that it is really not very good with the koran, but this is not a reason for the turkish swedish application to nato not to go further. burning religious texts is disrespectful and harmful and what may be legal is of course not necessarily appropriate, but in general we continue to urge hungary and turkey to ratify the swedish accession protocol without delay so that we could welcome sweden into the north atlantic alliance as soon as possible. andrey
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ivanovich the reason for those with the koran. that's it, there 's more news. let's get back to, uh , the north atlantic alliance. we actually wanted to start with him today. and just change if you'd like. we now have our uh, script and one piece of news. i would like us to briefly discuss, and the fact is that the head of the tomsk defense committee, and andrei kartalov, he did just now. just recently, here is a very interesting commentary on the events of last saturday. here and in general, he recalls that the wagner pmc wagner, like all any volunteers there. uh, we have a military organization were required to sign a contract with the minister. you remember, this was said some time ago and prigogine then said that he would not do this. and this is how andrey kartapov says in the event of not signing a contract with the ministry of defense units, the wagner pmcs had to leave the zone of the special military operation, which meant a loss of funding for them. can you listen now
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snippet from this comment. the ministry of defense for several days there was no attempt at a rebellion, the heart of defense announced that all formations that perform combat missions must sign a contract. and everyone started this decision absolutely the right decision to carry out. everything except the master then was to him at all, but in that case, he would take part in a special operation. that is, it won't. allocated funding
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material resources for the military prigogine this is the main, if not the main thing. and it happened next the first is money the second is stupid and exorbitant ambitions. this is an excited state together. all of you poured out. deception of their combat uh-huh, since all sorts of different versions still appear, andrey ivanovich, we close the discussion. after this comment or someone else, some doubts remain. i think the president gave an exhaustive assessment right away and she didn't really change the details. i
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would like to see, he announced the figures that only for 22 years yes, in the kremlin now there is a little more clarity on the goal-setting of the leadership. why they went for these actions, but i believe that this story is not over. still, 25,000 people trained, they must be somewhere now for all questions. and what next will they move to belarus and if they move, in what composition, and with military equipment or they put equipment in russia, as far as i understand , uh should find transmissions, and in what quantity what kind of military equipment are armored vehicles that they are for foreign manufacturers bought their own account, will they also enter there or not? more questions in general. the most important question we we are waging war in the west, it is very important for us. any person at the front should not use, as they say, the best infantry in the world of assault operations. but it would. well, to some extent, it’s unreasonable, so i would like it, of course, but they probably atoned for
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this stupid mistake after all at the front and participated there again, as far as i understand, there is a conversation going on again. that those who want to continue. they still owe directly to the technician. yes, here are those whom he introduced some opportunities not imagine what is happening how many will remain with the ministry of defense? how many will leave for minsk is also another question that we have to find out in the future. why not? we ask you how funny you post funny pictures with prigogine, then anyway i'll go to that area when you are more comfortable, but i 'm interested. and what will happen next with pmcs in africa , for example, because in our country and in mali, the most important is more important, and in such a strategic church it matters precisely with pmcs those achievements of the russian appearance of the year in the central african republic are connected a little uh, less important to say as much as possible. and
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if the pmc signs, well, some papers, yes, but the defense regulating its actions. are they missing out on anyone? i know, including the distinguished deputy who spoke here, how this situation, which is absolutely unprecedented in the history of our country, will continue to be resolved. this is what we have come to, that we are solving this situation. if someone now pretends that he knows how she is, and how she can or cannot be resolved, then, it seems to me, this person is about to act. well as a professor did not try to act in this capacity, he tried as he tried to explain, as far as i understood. as far as i understand him now, he tried to explain, in general, what was moving a cunning plan. yes, he is in this house. i will
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comment on you now. let me not do anything. let's say something then, you understand, that 's all, what is now being stated, including the respected deputy. this is his personal version, personal understanding of what is happening, i would say, so you know, in general, all this the situation here was said to be unprecedented. but this, of course, depending on how one considers the history of the state, some, for example, here analysts during this time, said that this is a sign of decay. and this i can be dismissed as this sign of growth. you understand , among other things, our military and army structures are being rebuilt today to meet the requirements of an absolutely new time. yeah, what didn’t exist 20 years ago, but we also see a picture of the army that was there in the revolutionary workers’ and peasants’ republic there a hundred years ago, when we solved some problems with those tools, but they were not fast, therefore, i would say that everything will be done, as it is necessary for the state goal-setting, mr. prigozhin analyzes today the donation is not so important to him, as everything else
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will resolved in questions. i think even for the most part not in public. okay, let's go back to the dacha plan of the planned plan then. yes, but the fact is that the eleventh is the twelfth of july. that is, very soon. when will we be on vacation? so, the fateful nato summit in vilnius will be held this is fateful, because we are all told that the issue of ukraine’s membership will finally be resolved there. although i don’t believe in this, and i don’t see any direct or indirect evidence that ukraine will be admitted there, but a rather funny one has appeared. uh, circumstantial evidence that ukraine will not be accepted. in general, it turned out that ukraine was not invited, uh, to take part in the work themselves means that ukraine received an invitation. and for e meetings, what is called on the margins unofficially in kiev, they were very upset. show us plot, please, a wake-up call for the president of the terrorist zelensky, he was not invited to the nato summit, that is, they seemed to be invited, but not quite on their own. it’s more likely
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to talk on the sidelines. such a separate party on the fields of forms , the head of the ukrainian ministry of foreign affairs dmitry kuleba complained about this in an interview with cnn. he also after that that the alliance does not have a unified position on the issue of admitting ukraine to the membership. that's nato secretary general stoltenberg's powers, which, according to the publication, the european asset was extended for another year. he says that ukraine will be taken into the alliance only when it defeat russia urgent tasks. what is now is to ensure that ukraine prevails as a sovereign, independent state in europe because if putin wins this war, then the question from the investigation, there will be no more intrigues in the discussion on ukraine at all the country will increase financial support for the military to 2.5% of its gdp and called on other nato allies to do the same, but most importantly promised at the vilnius summit some
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surprise on ukraine's membership i am sure that the only guarantee of ukraine's security that is valid. it should work, but i don’t want to somehow spoil the surprise of the vilnius summit, by and large, the promise that the allies will make to kiev at the summit is still unknown to the tovan , us secretary of state blinkin let loose, promising some kind of another package of assistance to ukraine at the nato summit you you will see a very reliable support package for ukraine, both political and practically i won’t get ahead of myself, but i’m sure of it, well, the shame of the jewish people zelensky suddenly some fright, he said that russia itself should ask for ukraine to be accepted into nato , clearly as a full member. nata ukraine will guarantee that peace and freedom will reign in our region, and it would be right for russia now to ask that ukraine be accepted into nato because nato members
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defend themselves and do not destroy. andrey vladimirovich, what kind of surprise is being prepared at the summit and why wasn’t they invited me to participate again, as always, we have it all distorted zelensky was invited to the nato summit, but he was not invited to take part in all meetings. at some point he will be invited to vilnius, he will speak in vilnius, but he will not be present from all meetings. this is the first. yes, andrei ivanovich, if possible, if another andrei vladimirovich calls, for example, to his anniversary, but says that you have a large hall. you don't have to come in with all the guests of yulia, but go there. go there, whether you were invited to a birthday party or not. he can't now, and by definition, how can you and uh said that we're misrepresenting everything, as always, i 'll quote. uh, we got an invitation to cuba,
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but not for himself himself, but for participation in the nato council ukraine, which will take place on the fields. once again i explain that yes, indeed , zelensky was not invited to participate in the work himself, so he will not sit all the time himself for 2 days at the table with everyone, but the kuleba does not understand this. why is he taking it out? then? i know why it's just uh, just the context of what else might be discussed. it's a game. uh, which is aimed at pressure on squids on pressure on the same hungarians on other countries, to uh, uh, so that, well, ukraine, let's say what kind of surprise there will be, which she wanted. the surprise , it turns out, is that ah, right now, you came up with yes richard about uh, ukraine becoming a de facto nato member, but not in july.
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that's it, that is, it's very, uh, the uh ukraine's nato council, this is an agreement on security guarantees. it changes a lot, because russia dates. no done. this is a bodyaga that was lost from the very beginning. this is the koran of soviet russia nato, which was a bodyaga, they remain with this, as they say after his demise, and this advice will always operate. even if you already know about it, there was a surprise - this is a complete maksim anatolyevich , you sit and keep quiet, you didn’t want to comment on your own, i won’t be able to substitute a complete package that, so to speak , will provide ukraine with the ability to resist russia for a long time to come. bye. so an agreement on guarantees, a normal agreement , is an agreement that you come to the defense, including the military of this country. this is written in the contract. she therefore
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the guarantee agreement is really the guarantee will be given in the sense that if ukraine becomes a member of nato, it will not. you in this particular case, the agreement on guarantees is, well, we promise to be somewhere nearby. if something happens to you, and depression is promised full financial support. now i'm not doing it yet, not to any extent. okay, you’ll see, but as for zelensky’s words that it would be beneficial for russia if ukraine yes, his wording is definitely funny, then what is needed is an armor plate. here blah blah blah, but there is a script. yes, he is, under which in russia it would be beneficial if ukrainians had some kind of nato if we cut ukraine down to a small aggressive piece of western territory in this situation, in the situation when ukraine joins nato, this is quite likely what will remain of it. even to some extent , it is beneficial to us for two reasons. wait,
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please, that's bullshit. excuse me, but now andrey vladimirovich was spreading a new rumor. here, and here are two reasons, the first one was written by someone from western experts that then, uh, this aggressive fragment will be controlled outside player. what makes it less aggressive is less unpredictable. the second reason is purely negotiable. that's good, we will insist on the results of a package deal following the results of the sv, we will defend that even this ukraine does not join nato. why is this senseless demand? today we will sign in 2 years for the skint. she goes much better to exchange. this is our demand for more serious substantial concessions. here and now you want us to just have a direct common border with nato, how would you understand will. we already have threatened to decipher it. i will decipher e here on video. it seems to me that everyone has seen the person behind the trap called,
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that is, these repeated here said that the proof that there are budans laid down. something happened no, yes, yes, i don't know, did you notice or not? in this video, i not only saw the pledge, but also the inscription. so, the office of the president of ukraine, the office of the president of ukraine is there, handy guys are working and their heads are standing. if you remember, they recently senate lindsey graham like this remounted, which he himself was surprised, so the picture from the hall could be glued there. i just want to go there years ago. yes yes. that's when journalists concerns the decoding of zelensky's statements the fact is that it is obvious that no one will accept ukraine as part of nato while this conflict continues, but zelensky, who, like me, his predecessor, by the way, poroshenko for a number of years told his people, told ukrainians that ukraine will be accepted by nato ukraine will definitely
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be accepted into nato do you remember there was even such a such a story when poroshenko was president, and nato used the wording in english, they used neith a graduate student, that is, aspiring to nathan, and poroshenko, instead of translating how he uses the word aspiring, he said, now ukraine is a graduate student of nato now she is in hell. soon, probably, a professor will have such a history, which means it’s funny with zelensky, as it’s obvious that he won’t need to accept ukraine into nato now, somehow turn it around and say that we don’t need it. but in general, this is beneficial to russia, but we didn’t really need it at this stage, he says so. you know that if it is beneficial to russia, then please ask the nato sponsor to the americans to the europeans to agree to a non -bloc status of ukraine and the whole conflict will be resolved very soon. after that, everything will be over, if it is beneficial, yes, if ukraine’s entry is beneficial to russia as zelensky says , then let them not join. well, it seems, and
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if it’s a question, that’s what they complain about, that they have, uh, nato doesn’t have, as it were, a consensus, let's show the consumable earlier. no, of course, not on the eve of kiev with an unannounced visit. two messengers arrived from nata from the president of poland or lithuania, they are from one side of zelensky. here, you will definitely be sure to be in it, but when it starts, you don’t. the president of poland came to kiev for the fifth time since the start of the special military operation. they say that almost with personal guarantees that at the upcoming nato summit in vilnius in july, the alliance will clearly talk about the prospects for ukraine's admission to according to duda, after the transfer of wagner pmc detachments to belarus, the issue is even more acute than the wagner group, the movement of wagner soldiers to belarus is a very important signal for us, which we believe should comment on us . there is no doubt that they are, in fact, changing
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the security architecture in our region this issue should be considered in detail by nato well, the president of lithuania, gitan snuseda, spoke bluntly. every time i speak very directly and clearly. ukraine will be a member of nato , but he did not specify when military support was also discussed kiev, according to ukrainian sources , european visitors promised to transfer zelensky. polish-lithuanian contingent to western ukraine, ukrainian telegram channels report two possible dates. now they are discussing two dates for the entry of the polish-lithuanian contingent to western ukraine, the first at the end of july immediately after the nato summit, and the second at the beginning of autumn, simultaneously with the supply of heavy weapons. poland itself increases its defense capability to ukraine just during the visit. dudy in kiev, the polish military reported that they received the first batch from the united states abrams, more than a dozen american- made tanks arrived in the polish port of szczecin.
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on the baltic sea. this will help fill the gap in poland's armored arsenal after warsaw shipped about 240 soviet t-72 tanks to kiev . yeah well sometimes why can't we get hot? and today, sometimes my pot boils too. two of these territories arrived in these fields, they brought in, in fact, they brought
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weapons. dozens and hundreds and thousands in colombia well this is practically the colombian version, it is necessary to give any guarantees, and then we would hang them. in general, there is one ukrainian figure that you said, there it is simply performed , and here it is the same. in my opinion, any representative of a western country who sent at least a package of boxes or anything with cartridges. uh, respectively, ukraine is already a legitimate target, at least on the territory of ukraine, that is, completely free again. you see, once again i say the day of the underground partisans. well we have there are enough funds. we have
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a heavy combat drone. you understand in the end, as we know from american performances. there are always groups that are not controlled by the government, but in connection with the latest events. they really control about russia, which they can always commit patriotically, that is, the murderers of the genocide of the people of the lord duda degree in the south, and our opponents a long time ago. they officially talked about the need to eliminate russian president putin , they don’t do it, but they talk about it absolutely to argue in such a way that when any of our diplomats and any of our ministers, any of our officials went somewhere abroad, so that he would have all the time fears that our opponents were going through hostilities . and no one invited them there. this is their
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personal selection. we absolutely. i'm getting a lot and very loudly . andrey uh-huh yes, see the answer. well let's, yes, when we scammed at mercenaries in kramatorsk kramatorsk is the territory of the russian federation, people who got to kramatorsk illegally are engaged in terrorist activities there is a legitimate target for us. who would they be, starting with the president, ending with a simple mercenary, and at the training ground in western ukraine, these are our illegal goals , absolutely legal there were none there. it was not there. nobody molested them in the same way in kramatorsk you don’t admit that they recognize them there. they say there were volunteers. in you can do anything in kramatorsk, you can do anything in kiev, you can't do anything kiev, from our point
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of view, is the official territory. ukraine, the polish president, the lithuanian president, i don’t know any there, another incomprehensible comrade has every right to arrive on the territory of kiev, and we legally punished him for this ; we have the right friends of the ninth. yes, we have the right, and in a different way, then they have the object yes, why, because this again, because it will be andrei who is on our territory, all illegal people who are in our territory are our objective goals. we can do whatever we want with respect. kiev needs to be shown to resonate a second. we cannot afford these two people who brought this military aid almost with them on the plane. well, at least on paper. uh, first they have to go to
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war and then the people who brought the boxes of weapons become participants in the war you trying directly to war instance and a half what is the meaning of ukraine is not fighting such a meaning to kill the president. dudu exhaust from this positively will be much more of a problem. so let's say maxim conditionally, but for me the discovery was that the resident channel is obviously his twin brother, the channel is legitimate to position as ukrainian. okay, that's just me bracketing the smart part of our viewers. let them make a bet. well, for the stupid explain but to me for me, i well , wait a minute, well, that's it, i'll understand. no, i don't understand the resident channel. now by by what does it mean and so understood everything. i didn't understand. this is also ukrainian ukraine.ru. no, in my opinion, no, so now that concerns. here it is necessary to strike blows or not, and the question is. why, what will it give us in all seriousness, if
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really, huh? start thinking seriously, they don't just tip their hats like that. here , instead of the duda, under which we will liquidate , another president will come instead of the lithuanian one. another president will come to the seat, and in order for me to change the policy, more will return to the warsaw pact. or the creature will return to the soviet union nothing will change at all, then there is no need to do this, because some kind of answer will arrive, the second one. sorry, we won't be able to do this if ibudanov is still alive and zaluzhnoy is alive, so that no one now speaks or hints and is fully capable. we just can't. and if we can not substitute it is not necessary and the third is already my argument for you. it will probably be a little further, but nevertheless. you listen, we are not international bandits to set this up. there are rules of conduct, there are red lines. and for us, oh, and for them , we don’t strike at the american embassy on tank street in kiev wrong deeds on the american betrayed. and how many
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intelligence agents are there, are there all of these, eh? according to your second argument, you can say that some answer will arrive, there will definitely be an answer, and so on. but you are sure that even if a blow is simply struck, no one will suffer. but next to these people, but someone there may be scared, they will crap up a lot, there will be some kind of answer, which means that either they will just be scared, there will be regret not to be afraid for a long time. we are so we are naturally sad, because we are with you are not like everyone else, but we will reach the polish border, they are no longer afraid of us, so we will find a way out of the conflict in a completely different scenario and on saturday completely forgotten words for 16 months will be spoken compromise, and so on. here, there will be mutual compromises and the fact that we do not strike any blows, and they should not, or could strike. this is part of the dish, thank god, and between the special services and between
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diplomats continue. and they were sentenced about it. i'm americans and even lavrov hinted that they called me, uh, western representatives, but since lavrov gentleman keeps his word he didn't say who we can only guess. here are the saturday events, they just nullified the possibility of a compromise, more or less did not nullify any conflict, negotiations are ending, but not a compromise that will be acceptable for ukraine, it will be a compromise, which will be just a compromise, right now gevorkovich, an acceptable compromise, right now this is a small advertising a pause in our love studio ends with an advertisement. it's good that they
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where belt marks from belts are visible. here are such uh excuses that he like found out on the couch. it means that when the journalists, understandably, began to attack the velodom with questions, what happened to the journalists, they said that biden has apnea - this is when during sleep you may have difficulty or even stop breathing, in order to fight this biden puts on such a mask belts actually. e belt marks that we see, which pumps air there. well, it helps him breathe. the white house has just confirmed that the president used a cpap machine last week to treat sleep apnea and sleep improvement. here is what the white house said back in 2008. biden said in a medical file that he was suffering from sleep disorders and the use of such devices is standard practice for people experiencing similar problems, of course, this news cannot but spur a discussion that is already active exaggerated in american society, and at the age of the president of the united states, but biden himself insists that he is in excellent condition and ready
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to fulfill his duties, but new york time journalists, in turn, drew attention to some inconsistencies in those the biden health bulletins that the white house publishes regularly are really a problem with me. first time wallpaper. he reminded me back in 2008, but in his last health report, in my opinion, it is february 16, there is no even mention of breathing difficulties in sleep, but even here journalists ask questions. and what else? hides or doesn’t tell the american president, biden’s no less obvious problems with concentration and attention, let’s say, because he recently answered a question from cnn a and forgot what his government sponsors the war, where it sponsors it, instead of recalling ukraine and cancer, he mentioned the latest events in russia. of course , it is difficult to say to what extent vladimir putin has been weakened by recent events, but he is clearly losing the war in iraq, he is losing
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the war inside the country, and he became something like a pariah all over the world, not only for nato , not only for the european union, it is also japan. you know, 40 countries, journalists from the white house pool remembered another fragment, this is the same press approach. in addition, for no apparent reason, for some reason he suddenly remembered about china, and the quote stated that beijing had enormous problems. biden did not specify what this was connected with, however, the statement could not help but notice this directly in china ; the chinese have already reacted there and asks the united states to pay attention to their own problems first of all. i think that any country, including the united states, is part of its development and progress may encounter problems. we hope that the united states will be able to focus on resolving its internal problems to play a constructive role in ensuring the stability and prosperity of the world, the core of lan, frankly, is already tired
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of being sarcastic about his health at work. do not come ivan sergei my dear. why, if you do not comply with the limits of decency in the evening in the morning, there can be the most, most diverse traces on the face. it doesn't depend on keeping hands off old biden's. okay, to hell with him. i just wanted to say that the comments of the chinese mead turned out to be very mocking. and we don't have much time left. uh, vanya took it away their questions about the elimination of any dud. and maxim said, this is it. well, because he provoked here, as if thrown now , he provoked here some kind of this very holivar, as they say. maxim anatolyevich said that everything ends. e compromises. and this is also what we soon saw. i will be very happy if everything happens like this. hmm, but because no matter how bad the world
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is, it's always better than a good quarrel, but so far i don't see something. the desire to make some kind of compromise, i see, i have begun a completely different thing, finally, these exercises in ukraine are about they were told to you by e, which means the elimination of the consequences of a terrorist act that russia is preparing at the zaporozhye nuclear power plant. preparations for the russian terrorist attack began in zaporozhye in the city, rescue posts were deployed in the maneuvers that are taking place in the dnepropetrovsk mykolaiv regions, as well as on the territory of the zaporozhye kherson region controlled by kiev , energy rescuers, doctors and police, on the roads, put up additional roadblocks and cordon sanitaires with check sensors radiation background. the population is preparing for evacuation within a radius of 50 km from the zaporozhye nuclear power plant. this is almost 140,000 residents on television in social networks replicating instructions on how to act in the event of an accident from the scientific place of the first-aid kit in the first-aid kit, you must
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have a mask with you, iodine preparations, antacids and alginates of italy, and you must move at least 50 km away from the zaporizhzhya npp. and then wait for official orders. the doctrine in case of nuclear catastrophes is an obvious reference to recent fakes. the fact that the russians mined zaporozhye nuclear power plant, these rumors are actively promoted by the president. ravis zelensky and the head of ukrainian intelligence budanov are the other worst thing. that during this time zaporozhets to the nuclear power plant was additionally mined. and the worst thing was that the cooler was mined, if they disable it by detonating it, there will be a high probability that there will be significant problems in time. hysteria coincided with the submission of draft resolutions to the us congress, in which russia proposes the use of nuclear weapons in ukraine regard our message to putin and everyone as an attack on all of nato. who next to him is
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russia should take into account that the use of nuclear weapons will cause a massive response from nato and it will be in a state of war. andrey frants is something like a search for a compromise, this is a reason to send troops from europe to the territory of ukraine, an additional new word onion , the lithuanian-polish ukrainian corps and two presidents of ukraine and poland, who are including discussing this, but need some kind of loud scandal is needed which can be unwound here, respectively unwinds to erase, associated with the release of some radioactive substances. colleagues here have already said this question today. and why is there that's why we destroy the presidents? what will it give? well , exactly the same question. why would we blow up a nuclear power plant? yes, our already with? yes , this will give absolutely nothing, so they are looking for a reason, but duda is on the territory of the kiva. he said one good phrase that the appearance
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of wagner units in belarus changes the security system, that is, it is possible that they will find a reason for the introduction of these troops into the lutsk region just indicates where the headquarters of this course will be located, by the way, it is there that children are now being given iodine. in the event that nuclear weapons are used or some kind of emissions are possible , this reason, uh, will be left related to the terrorist attack, uh , nuclear, because the white house has already warned said that we do not see traces of the preparation of the russian woman for any terrorist attacks he doesn’t see anything on the territory at all, when, uh, he doesn’t want damage, was it for ukraine what guys? not necessary. this option to use this corridor of opportunity for them already cannot look like a real attempt to strike later than the porozhskaya nuclear power plant, but an imitation. that's how the white helmets are being filmed for some reason. uh, let me remind you, it's just that in syria , no chemical weapons were filmed , just in a certain piece of territory, people were serving as bearers. there is someone choking on someone's trembling hand, vomiting and so on. ukraine
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is trying to show something similar, saying that it was filmed almost in the city, zaporozhye well, trying to inflate some minister out of this, her allies could not say that ukraine was lying. they are anyway. there it will be necessary to show some kind of traditional infection. well, i don't know, well, completely there is someone who was shown some kind of religion, and there's nothing to do, the foreign intelligence service said that part of the spent nuclear fuel had already been taken out, bypassing control. mgt means the chernobyl nuclear power plant, so relatively speaking, spray it in the air so that the sensors detect or the wind rose detects this matter. everyone panicked in poland local residents. the russians were looking for you to attack the inhabitants, so these troops, which will cross the border of practically polish units, are going to defend you. the reason would be good, but the maneuver has been narrowed down a bit now. perhaps they will communicate that zaporozhye station is there for one reason or another about there wagners of belarus, but you
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have little doubt that the polish lithuanian troops will enter the territory of ukraine. you see, it means what you think, therefore not only a meteorologist is a military meteorologist. can't ever 100% to give guarantees that in the event of a nuclear catastrophe it is necessary to zaporozhye with or some other, therefore, another question. we are already talking about this, and the poles, slovaks, lithuanians, to them to justify some sort of entry of troops to them. do you really think that they are ready to sacrifice their own population in order to decide on the deployment of troops. well, of course, they are not interested in this can not be interested. well, i think if someone in kiev decides to do this, they are unlikely to think about the poles there or not, and not
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of their company, which is being conducted in ukraine, suggests that it is potentially such that these are types of information blackmail, in fact, about whom it is blackmailing, including, uh, their opponent, yes, russia, those whom they look at, as in their opponents of russia and this. and the story around the zaporozhye nuclear power plant where the stakes are very high if something happens there, but so far we have been seeing news stories for many months. we have some stories about them that something can happen there. who what can fame do god nothing is happening yet, but it's a rate hike and potentially. i agree. here maxim actually agrees with one part with one part. i do not agree that this conflict will be resolved sometime through negotiations, that they will take place soon. unfortunately, it is not known how soon, but the higher. i remember saying that you said lavrov communicates with someone, but it does not mean what you and before, if negotiations begin before them. we can see higher and higher
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. let's think about how an element of the ukrainian idea of ​​​​a truce , you understand, this is the logic that came from bandera's documents, either ukrainian or nobody else's what happened. from the donbass , what they did in hiding behind people in mariupol , the kakhovskaya hydroelectric power station, you understand for them if they have a clear idea that the contract will not cause radioactivity contamination to blow up the station on the territory of the contract. i'll just remind you that if it was categorically taboo, then from the first their shots there, which began, they would have been stopped, but they were not stopped leave the radioactive problem, no matter what anyone says, no one will ask the poles of the slovaks no one. but leave us the radioactive problem, which will be our problem and say so. well, now stay. stay in ukraine infected territories, please, this is such a compromise in ukrainian and western duhevich, which means about the introduction of polish troops. i rarely disagree. there is disagree. this is the polish troops, the polish flag will not
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be on ukraine until such time as ukrainian speeches. i have something to pour in then understand. all i will take the western territory for one simple reason in poland will soon choose you represent the muzzle of kaczynski's face if the polish columns. they will be defeated and will go home under the official polish flag, not in the format of mercenaries on the sly, but under the official polish flag you are not going to have a huge number of coffins. it's like they won't go. there was to be. them why don't we have the right? what then are they still not guarding? nothing if even in march, because for the polish authorities there will be no consequences for the polish latter. it will be them if we hit these. and why, if they were so confident andrei ivanovich, they really were already great. as far as two things are concerned, as far as
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vander is concerned, only 8,000 people will be relocated in belarus. this is the first fatigue on all counts. i know the very beginning of the foundation is the first. and the second, with regard to radioactive contamination. i say again, this is too serious, because in the course of the upcoming offensive of the new e, ukrainian troops quite, perhaps, the complete destruction of the vault. not the reactor itself, nor the reactor, but stored, which are located with me. at the gatherings this is scary, because it is easily destroyed, the ukrainian new offensive will set itself the goal of destroying the storage, because their goal is to return to their own zaporozhye, and with control it will not be possible to destroy the storage insufficiently, having received it. i'm talking about destroying the vault and generating radioactivity.
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you see, threatening to destroy the repository causes much more damage in the donbass russia than ukraine unfortunately, you understand that this is how terrorists work unless you want? we don't have a war. accordingly, we have no problem, zaporozhye, which is under the control of ukraine, will harm the gifts, that is, they will be themselves. well, you know , 700,000. this is a pretext for the destruction of ukrainian statehood must be destroyed. we need to stop now for a short commercial break, then we will have a slightly different theme and a different composition of guests. thank you dropper guys, but the heart does not bother, we we're not going anywhere from here until we do
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we wanted to talk about such possible changes in the political spectrum in one of the leading countries, and maybe still the leading country in europe in germany, but first , some news from france, as you remember, president macron, here urged everyone to closely monitor the situation in russia while he was closely following us , he himself has situations there. it's not very good. actually news from france explain. why was maxim anatolyevich yustin today so tense. do you think this is due, perhaps because of this, because for the second day in france , riots continue in large cities and the reason was the murder of a seventeen-year-old teenager by a law enforcement officer , presumably from algeria, how it all happened. it all happened last tuesday in the city, according to eyewitnesses, the police stopped a yellow mercedes driving, which, it seems, was how this young man was. the policeman initially said that he tried to knock them down, but that's when they were franz agency footage released later . what happened looks different, which means the driver's door. here you see
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two policemen approached, one of them seems to have pointed a weapon towards the driver, a shot is heard. here it is then seen as the car at full speed begins to move. and when she drove a few. uh, meters flipping the french press claims that a teenager died from a wound in the stomach at the nater mass protests. they began almost immediately on that day, and only then they spread to large french cities. this is paris and cowardly and lille or he last night in the south of france for the first time since the second world war, a siren sounded, outraged by the actions of the police, protesters to build barricades burn cars attack the police station and practically storm the city hall. the main weapons of the rebels are firecrackers and all kinds of fireworks. the police are still responding with tear gas and batons on the night of june 9 in the city of friend , 20 unknown persons tried to storm the local prison in order to release the prisoners from the eyewitnesses. uh, hit the french
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combat vehicles peugeot gbs 180, allegedly. such equipment was sent to one of the protested cities in order to suppress the riots last night alone, the french police arrested about 80 people, in total, according to some publications , there are already more than 150 detainees . in fact, in the french segment of twitter, footage is being distributed. can we look at all this, and immanuel and bridgek macron, here, supposedly having fun at the concert of elton john i don't know again no one knows how really these shots were filmed directly. at this concert, indeed, on june 28 , elton john performed at the akurena stadium in paris. but to confirm that the macron is there, with all his companions, jumping and somehow the french authorities cannot have fun on this day. in fact, a rather ridiculous macron is justified, responding on twitter that, well, what was allowed tonight is not justified. he condemned
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this whole situation with a teenager and wrote that citizens need to calm down and urged them to meditation word meditation. here i have specially checked in french really for macron meditation, calls to respond. why i don’t really understand to meditation, let’s be honest about the french lesson. i think that everyone in such a situation acts by immunologically closest methods. now, if we are here, if he has already left, and he would certainly, now, just tell all this and ask. we made a mistake with the translation. no no. i do not mean it. just when they were, when sarkozy was also the minister of the interior of france and they also there was an outbreak of teenage violence. i don’t remember why they were dissatisfied with something either, and teenagers , for the most part, too, by the way, are like that. coming from the secular circles of the suburbs of paris, everything, this was an extremely tough position. e, he occupied and they say that this
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helped him a lot, then to become french president. well, another thing, what was he like there? president , it doesn't matter, but since we 're talking about it now, and i mentioned here. hmm, such a migration problem, well, an indirect victory. a hmm, so we wanted to talk about germany today. the ruling circles are german every day. it's already obvious more and more uh, expresses concern. with the growing popularity of the alternative party for germany , it allegedly has already climbed to second place in this internal ranking. here is an alternative for germany in our understanding, they are probably the most consistent critics of migration policy. here, they really don't like the influx of migrants. and so. berlin's fear of alternative activities for germany a. maybe now there are such hints to lead to
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the fact that the party? how to ban it? and to ban it, you can accuse it of being such ultra-right extremists. here they are against migrants and against everything a there, and therefore, it means to ban its activities, however, it’s not true. this is of course a matter of time. it's interesting to see. well, let's start now with how the picture looks. now today, an alternative for germany 10 years ago was created by three economists who stood at the origins of the european union but became disillusioned with policy of brussels and ex-chancellor angela merkel who used to solve all the problems of european countries at the expense of german taxpayers at that moment the eu was saving greece from bankruptcy and the anti-greek agenda. helped adg win the support of every tenth german voter in a year. this is a record for new games. alternative for germany - this is the people's party for us
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to vote in municipal elections, across the country the radicalization of the party. started in 2015, when hundreds of thousands of arabs fleeing the syrian war in germany surged the number of crimes committed by migrants that refugees are the main problem stated as much as 76%. vdg, immediately saddled a new skate engaged in the propaganda of islam phobia and the fight against migration at some point, the leaders of the alternative for germany came to such statements. hitler and the nazis - this is an insignificant episode. in more than a thousand years of successful history in germany, we have a glorious history, and dear friends it lasted longer than these, cursed 12 years of flirting with nationalism brought electoral success, bundestag in 2017, and the dg won 94 seats in parliament, i.e. 12 1/2% of the total in the last elections in 2021, the result came out
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slightly worse in the ranks of the alternative. every tenth member of the bundesles. radical statements are well received by a certain part of the population. it turns out that this is still possible to say the party has turned from a quasi-professional to an absolutely extreme right-wing party, which today is extremist anti-semitic and partly racist. now the adg agenda, the fight against high prices for food and heating has been added current public issues. the latest polls show that the party is supported by up to the third most popular german voters. she caught up with the oldest political force , the social democrats, the fsbg, the native party, the chancellor, the scholz, the germans, the establishment. in a panic, what is happening should be a red flag for us. i think we need to redefine the spirit of german unity. we must rally, not laugh at those. who believes the populist of march 2021, the german secret services are officially monitoring the activities
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alternatives for germany sanction on this by the federal office for the protection of the constitution chi. novniki suspect the party of extremism and until the elections of 2025 from dd may simply not survive last week. in this germany , it hinted that the activities of the party could be banned due to threats to the security of the state. as federal minister of the interior, not relying on his authority. if at some point we come to a conclusion. of a sufficient basis for declaring the activity unconstitutional, but i will act accordingly so felix please tell me, does the alternative for germany really pose any danger to the current political system in germany and it's not so bad. is it really good or bad for me? that is, every person is good, which means that everything is worse, but in any case, because you decipher this joke. you need to understand where this
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electorate came from. yes, that is, he was not a landing force, they threw him into germany, yes, that is, he was and he was recruited at the expense of some other parties, where it is lacking. there are two voices here. yes , two options or an alternative for germany, but it works so well and finds some words and actions so that the electorate follows it or all other parties. so everyone would already be tired of the problem in another. and in some way then, that for four rutted agenda, all the big people's parties were so capped that socialist values, conservative values ​​began to emerge. yes, because of the social democrats as well as the christian democrats the electorate, quietly, such a protest, or what? i think this is a protest and just a large number of people did not find it. in those programs
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that were written because of this, why then when i said that there is a danger to the political system? you said that everything is much worse, that is, somehow you have no doubt that it exists, because we can still collaborate with those large parties that were created after the second world war. yes, that is, it is a matter of continuity. yes, because i believe that for alternatives to germany , several parties may still come up, which, uh, they just take for themselves. i do not think that the alternative for germany, by the way, the constitutional court will ban, because the party program is written quite competently in the context of a democratic concession. well, they can ban uh, get out of certain people who did hard right. no, it will be more efficient. see. here are the nationalist values ​​playing on them playing on some traditional family values ​​playing on the demands of social requirements doesn’t remind you of climbing
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there is no such party in germany which, in my opinion, was called the nsdp, family values. no, yes, because they are recorded in so many parties. uh-huh, about everyone else. eh, that's debatable. eh, well, our situation is very different, because any party that is ready to follow the method of non- democratic struggle is considered outside democracy. yes, the methods of non- democratic struggle are shown only by the minister of the head of the ministry of internal affairs who says, listen a. let's try to ban them. this is even more knocking down the electorate to this party. no. i can i can submit material at the school desk so that they are banned through the concentration court. this is a democratic process. but this does not mean that it will be crowned with success. well, just look, vanya delicately, uh, hints at the fact that new nazis could grow out of the alternative, and fe lix said that it’s more
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like a struggle with this green uh-huh and libertarian, if i can call it that way, this scale coordinates, there is a scale and value that alexei nikolaevich is imposing on the germans, your assessment. i uh in general agree with felix hmm would like to clarify. attribute an alternative for germany to the right sector, if you understand the word right a little more to the right of it. hello nazism. completely wrong. this is to indulge the left-liberal agenda, which actually unfolds in the german media. well, let's check the cdu. doesn't mean it's much worse in fact. i believe that their alternative to the ugliness of nothing is the kind of moves with and, accordingly, xss, which should have been a cds, a healthy person. well, yes, this is such a hb healthy person, that is, what is hadith christian democratic union ie traditional values. family values, religious values. you understand in this way. we are the right party.
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sorry for such a comparison, one can call united russia but it would be quite less stupid, because the value of the alternative for germany in general corresponds to our values, which we now support in early here are the future nazis - it is rather such a tool to combat it. just i read before the interview. naturally. you have nikolai viktorovich it seems to me that i suddenly yes , that's when share it first. i would like to say that, uh, colleagues do not draw historical analogies. and this is a weakness, because with my opportunity now, as alexander is ready, they grew up, they grew up and this is a small difference in the russian language, uh, it gives us an understanding of the political processes that are taking place today in general in europe in germany, especially start uh, dissatisfied people are dissatisfied with today's situations are unsatisfactory. why? well, because the green agenda, destruction, human nature, german
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french greek vote something is not going on in general. this is connected not only with russia, or in general , something broke in life, there was some kind of bourgeois, attractive, germany knows all the pelips, but now they understand that it will not be good. and now everyone is dissatisfied at this moment, those who manage the political processes create their own alternative to them. the example is very simple. we believe that germany is, well, relatively speaking. a in fact, not even conditionally under the occupation of the americans. so, ukraine is also under their occupation. we see that they are from ukraine, the americans have made an instrument of their policy. well, so they use germany as an instrument of their policy. why is it necessary , in order not to lose control over the instrument, you need to have the power to control and control the alternative all the time, and today in europe an alternative is artificially created, which will then replace
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the power, but it is really right and it really should be at war with us. as far as this alternative is not a party. that's how you say how much control she has. it is controlled, because look , if you are also hinting at the thirties of the last century, because you say that the nazis, well, about directly big control , i thought that he controls it up to a certain point. yes, now hitler was brought to power. anglo-saxons in order for him to arrange a big war in europe for the genocide of the slavic jewish of all other peoples. it was needed by those who brought him to power. this is how historians would send you. i would also about controllability. i would argue with you, cherry on the cake. look, other parties came to italy, which, it seems, were supposed to. uh, contrary to the current
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course of europe, they do nothing in the same way. they scold the same thing, the russian european union for germany, if it comes to power, it has become much more radical, because they believe that they can decide for the climate. for all voters in spite of voters contrary to common sense contrary and so on. we are a more radical party. this let's konstantinovich, i can not argue. under what historical yes because, of course, to argue. i can't with this. and you just do not argue, but state your point of view and pay attention to everything. this means that parallels can be drawn, but they will not work at all , some parallels that vanya draws, which will not work. the thing is, uh, when we are now all drawing these parallels, all these parallels are exclusively based on some external external factors, that is, here oh, it seems.
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oh, they spoke for germany. oh, they speak for germany. nothing like that. the goal of the nazis was on the fascist soloists, there was a very specific thing, which means the main thing, uh, the stimulus of progress is a national idea. there is often nothing like germany on the migrant agenda. it’s just that the nazi party had a slightly altered non-100% immigrant agenda, i understand, i say, today’s refraction of this national surface. we 'll see if he insists on his parallels just, yes, if we look at the program. and the alternative program for germany. i hope everyone has read it. and we will compare it, so to speak, to everyone, what is said , if the speech of their leaders is there, what is specifically written about migrants, the main thing is to eliminate it. and the fact that if they are refugees, then refugees should be refugees, that is, when everything is fine in their homeland, refugees
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return to their country, if people under the guise of refugees begin to come and sit in our germany this is bad. this is on the one hand. the second is to prevent the islamization of the country, then there is the elimination of islamic enclaves and the construction, let's say, in a mosque with the money of foreign states, and to ban wearing hijabs there. that is, what is written we are ready to accept emigrants if they are ready to be incorporated into german society, despite the fact that german culture is for us, well, for the germans. it's like a light in the windows everyone should learn german to know. thirty no, yes, and if these migrants here do not want to control anything with them. and how ? so just like here, just like ours deported people get on planes and fly to another country an asterisk
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is glued an asterisk is glued on a coat, but so that it’s completely incomprehensible even then, yes, a small moment, the most important thing is that they didn’t say at the beginning. why the alternative for germany is seen here is what we saw as a huge threat. well, it's not because of the migrants. these are completely migrants - that's one small touch to it when you read this program. there is absolutely black and white written guys. no, we have multiculturalism. alternative for germany an alternative for germany against and for gender studies an alternative for germany against the green agenda of the left, well , it's only in the left green. i again bring this mirror of the twenties-thirties to you and propose to look at it. you don't need to put in a word. just a green trip against this created, uh, liberal liberal
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state. uh, betrayed by the interview, alexander nikolaevich said golden words against this entire fag agenda. so just a little so good. absolutely correct. i listened to felix's sympathy for his plight. he stands well in russia, however. but since felix e denotes all this with the words green agenda, apparently an accordion. now the green agenda can be criticized here ah. well, you can’t criticize, because facebook and gays have become more blocking even the word teacher instead of yes, because you don’t need to use facebook. this extremist is also an absolutely scientific word in the medical literature of the early 20th century. well , it was used and clearly i’m not going to refuse it, but the point is not that the point is that and back in the nineteenth year there was a letter from thirty so-called intellectuals who warned, mostly french.
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but those who warned that the right danger was coming. so i then, by virtue of my modest capabilities, published an answer to them, one thing is that you agreed with them or not. no, of course not. so. i wrote that it is absolutely fundamental, but there is a conversation about completely fundamentally different opposing values. let's put it this way, here, respectively, uh, sitting here in moscow is very difficult. mm to share, uh, then the dirt that is poured on the alternative for germany because of ideological considerations, including calling them uh, and comparing them. uh, with the nazis. this is the morning of reality, which means, uh, really today it is a party, as i see it, but of the national renaissance
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. and here is a party that follows the path that the italians took a little earlier, that is followed by hungary, and so on back to the twenties, which before the italians. now it contains the addresses of alternatives to the japanese. now i will answer you, but the main thing the accusation of the alternative for germany is that they are called paths. in some places they say that they exist at the expense of russian emigrants and at the expense of russian money, such an accusation sounded, at least before the war. so now about the twenties thirties. in general, i’m surprised at the rather 85 -year-old trauma of any person living in this territory, to whom nazism is seen in everything ; in ukrainians, nazism is seen in an alternative for germany
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, the cyclical nature of certain historical processes is not seen. here your such a somewhat derogatory term. wait, what hit you so hard that some national revival does not suit you, then a flock of these plus sign and the word germany it seems to me that any person who does not live in this territory, that is , not in russia, but in general in europe , starts. a little bit not satisfied if the value. yes , pensioners have survived from reality, blocked by a mystical agenda quietly, but you are an exception, your attitude towards germany we know a little, so one sentence, first of all, my attitude towards liberalism. well, alexander mikhailovich , wait, what do we
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worry about ? no matter how much she condemns the agenda and turns out to be an ally of the most liberal, most left-wing, most anti-national forces, as you just happened in the history of russia and so on is happening now before our eyes, because she is in favor of so-called conservatism. russia is very worried about the preservation of liberal values. and as soon as it start threatening. so she immediately raises cries. cautiously, nazism said so, as igor sergeevich snapped about the analogy. yes, yes, yes, you will have time, then continue after the advertisement. okay let's do it. or maybe it’s better not to develop it at all then. yes, we will give a full-fledged short break, then we
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of the german economy is energy due to the actual severance of relations with russia , berlin was left without cheap oil and gas, of which half of the country's enterprises worked, experts recall with pain the times when nord stream alone worked at full capacity, if it continued to pump gas, the north of germany would receive an additional 3 billion euros per year, another example is that refinery workers in the city of shwed are now constantly threatened layoffs. he supplies gasoline to berlin and brandenburg. our partners are boys. we are still afloat, but it is very important to understand what course to move not just for our oil refinery, but for the whole city, which is completely tied to it. work, the german industry is going through hard times. energy-intensive industries are going bankrupt, germany's oldest metallurgical concern closed last spring, more than 14,000 employees were left without work, and a little earlier, another metallurgical holding, arcelormill, it is the largest in the world, announced the closure of two of its plants in
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hamburg and time, and another two german production at the company's plants was reduced by a third after a tenfold increase in gas and electricity prices, with which we had to reconcile we are no longer competitive in the market we see an urgent need for political action to immediately bring energy prices under control another problem is the labor market, laid-off employees cannot find work in their specialty, while in germany there is an acute shortage of personnel we are talking about almost two millions of jobs to fill the gaps with migrants from the middle east and north africa employers can not i talk to hotel owners. they can't find service personnel. i go to the bakery no one to work. no one studies to be a baker , there is no one to work in airlines. we take refugee children to kindergartens, but there is no one to work with them either, the workforce does not grow on trees and does not fall from the sky, we have to live with this
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decade. more recently, germany was prophesied the status of the third economy in the world, which it was supposed to take away from japan, but all this seems to have remained a dream last year. it has the worst performance among the g7 countries , the outflow of capital from the country, according to the german economic institute, is a record more than 125 billion euros, and the outlook for this and next years is even bleaker. european economic engine fails germany's economic growth will lag behind the rest of the region for years to come, and the international monetary fund estimates the german economy in 2023. may show the worst result among the countries participating in the g7 igor sergeevich big business is dissatisfied in the twenties. in germany, too, big business was dissatisfied. and then he found a candidate who was supposed to suit big business as a crutch redmi. i'm not saying it will happen.
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here, in some upcoming elections no , no, i'm talking about a trend that may be in five seven ten years if it remains unchanged. may give us something similar, perhaps not even the sdg with some more radical party resurrected on its platform. you know, the draft, i think that the analogy with the twenties-thirties pre-war period, and not entirely correct, is not entirely correct. they are quite correct. and why was nazism nurtured, thus big capital to solve two by six fascism of two main targets first target for war with russia uh soviet union and second target for suppression of the population inside the country because uh hmm parliamentary democracy stopped uh giving power to big business people were too dissatisfied with the popularity of communist parties and so on and so forth , now we take
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the present. what we have, and what we have is that it’s not that europe but the whole west is already fighting against russia in a hybrid way, yes, but they are fighting and i remind you that e german armored cats are now attacking the positions of the russian army on territory on our territory in ukraine with the same crosses, so the nazis are not needed for the war against us. but there is another problem. now you just showed in the plot that there is a deterioration in the standard of living, migration, and so on and so forth, people are dissatisfied with the old parties, they are losing popularity, it is necessary to ensure control over the cattle, i mean the electorate. and this is where the nazis will be very, very beneficial for big business, because i completely
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agree. here, what sounded like they were grown for this. next, you talked about that the nazis were out of control quite right, hitler was out of control. why then england and the united states? i had to stop by the allies of the soviet union, but they also taught this experience. they are working now. that's just in the same ukraine, there are the authorities of the kiev regime, who provides the frank nazis correctly who is controlled by transnational capital? yes, even demonstratively for verification. they appointed administrators on behalf of this transport national capital, and traitors sergeyevich is just not talking about it right now. he also says that there are certain prospects, there are 5-10 years. i say what is it? maybe finish then? and i'm talking about this about the fact that it is in the future. if it
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goes like this, say the same, what is not a completely correct analogy, but you see the result. then then i don’t understand what your disagreement with him is, just the current nazis, so called at the head of germany, they are already at war with us. and they will need the nazis not for war with us, but in order to strengthen their power within germany and strengthen, thereby germany, and here is another question. that is, whether we are interested in this according to your idea. in general, a repetition of the events of the german hundred years ago. quite likely. it is likely that it is already underway. you are talking about the same thing, what kind of tanks german tanks with these crosses are already shooting at our soldiers on our soil. and the last thing i want to say is that for some reason we love these very ones. e. hmm, they are against liberal
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values ​​and so on and so forth, i absolutely don’t care about that, against it. what values ​​are they they will strengthen both germany and europe as a whole, they will strengthen the warring against us, according to our interests, the protection of the rights of the oppressed minority corresponds. mu mansky there and other minorities in these countries and support for their just struggle for their rights and the more this will continue. we want we offer to respond to our internationals. quite right, 30 is still surprised. why is it when cars are burned there in france? eh, some other villains didn’t supply them with the stolen e we have to somehow fight a little against, and such party as an alternative for germany e. but wait, this is how konstantin alexandrovich said that he did not understand. why, then , the westerners, who the nazis are trying
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to ban there. yes? let's do everything so well, if german tanks are already fighting with us, that is, why do they say? wait for alternatives for germany alternatives. there may be a much more capacity pact with russia. you see, because, er, of course, of course, the nationalists came to power. they stood there and fine a second. together you said that an alternative for germany could there should be a much more agreement with the tenant, and igor sergeevich says, and we must support the oppressed muslim population of germany in the struggle for that is, yes, then i worry about the matter, well, it’s clear, as you understand, the main mistake is the mistake in understanding fascism and national soloism. she was admitted and even a long time ago by the bushes
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of the editor, who made the most important mistake. they characterize fascism. moreover , it characterizes quite clearly, they put forward the main idea. they said that fascism was created for what to fight the great soviet union, this is great here, as for we created the main goal for this. you don't read a single statutory document of the nazi party so you say you don't want to argue with nikolaevich i want to argue, but he comes. yes , there was no goal, the goal of freedom was the goal of building e russian society. absolutely you capture the space is not at war with the soviet union. well, well, i don’t care, something the union was a territory that needed to be conquered. well, what are you talking about, why is this the bolshevik today, russia needs to fight, that it reminds me of colleagues that any dispute we have must end with advertising, apparently,
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call by phone or go to our website leomax.ru this is the meeting place on ntv dear guests, wait, now you do not want a historical discussion, i understand, but today, as at first , yusin, says that you are waiting for comments from me. now konstantin aleksandrovich does not want to argue, as he argued. so ok let's have one more argument. uh, let's consider now, by the way, nikolai viktorovich voiced remember he at the beginning of this conversation says that the united states occupied germany yes, this is a very common point of view and many say yes. this is not independence. uh. so it translates to the weakness of modern germany, because the germans depend on everything that is there, it means the americans, but in all directions it depends on what the americans say depending on. in general, we figured it out with colleagues. uh three
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the main depending on political dependence is economic and depending on the military and let's see after the defeat in the second world war. the americans, as it is now customary to say, hooked the germans on a financial needle thanks to the marshal's plan , germany fell into a debt hole and the leading german companies have indeed since then been controlled by large investors from the united states among politicians have been purged. again after the war. in the leadership of the frg, the americans left only people loyal to washington, all those who disagree were declared either hitler's accomplices or communists. this was very inconvenient during the cold war, while the loyal to the united states, in fact, former nazis, their descendants worked quietly and work in various structures of the leading frg, they just make decisions that are convenient for the united states. there , joining nato, the european union schengen, the rejection of the national currency in favor of the euro, and so on , they say that any new chancellor must receive tacit approval from the white house before being appointed. it's not proven, but
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it's kind of a known thing. as for the military component after the defeat of the third reich, the american contingent remained in germany. first, under the pretext of protection from the soviet army, and then they simply remained as part of the support of nato allies on the territory of germany; now there are about 150 us military facilities, including the largest rammstein airbase, there are almost 40,000 military personnel there . nuclear warheads alexey nikolaevich you agree, uh, with such an analysis of dependence. unfortunately, yes , unfortunately for germany, of course, so, but i am a person in this sense. even the order is interested because. hey my grandma ethnic german from russian germans. and i have a large number of relatives who live in germany and at the same time lived there for a long time, and i saw this dependence on americans from the inside, and i know that german society understands it, and in fact, i would not say that it approves.
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there, somewhere, they are divided in 50 to 50. but wait, please, but apparently, they understand this and take it to what extent, i would like to return a little or help ivan , let's say. so he is absolutely right in his search analogies and hidden crypto-nazis, who can only become real, only looks, he should look in the wrong direction for germany, and those who are already in power now in europe are heading to europe. uh, germany is now run by people who are called liberals, but in essence they preach what distinguishes nazism. first of all, not a national idea, but a totalitarian dictatorship, one opinion on the pressure of minorities, only minorities are now other minorities - these are those conservative germans who understand that they are under power, the united states who do not like that they actually became their puppets. they
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turn into a minority not in terms of numbers, but, in fact, they turn into an oppressed part of society, this oppressed part of society. under the guise of liberal ideas, they are now forced to give up what is dear to them from all the conservative values ​​that we said they are forced to be. by the way, nikolaevich in this sense was absolutely right to follow this same homosexual agenda whether they like it or not. well, i'm not very good for god's sake, you're like a new person to our program. not quite familiar with our rules yet. what are you? by the way, speaking, i shrugged, because i said that with you gigantic. i suggested discussing your other forces, which will be no less pro-american, who will be promised the national revival that they are talking about there and will force them to fight with russia again, when a colleague gave an analysis of today's historical events, current in one in one. i just don't agree. today
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they are the path of human development. the main path of human development konstantin aleksandrovich in my opinion , there is no threat of ultra-right coming to power in germany, but the next german government that comes to power as a result of the next elections will be more right. what it will most likely be. as a result of today's discussion, i inserted remembered one of my favorite soviet films the adventures of widely holmes and dr. watson from the first series of acquaintance acquaintance. when watson actually collected some compromising evidence of holmes' strange actions called him to a boxing match, they box around the room. and watson you list it all to him. here some strange people disappear to you and do not come out. you are running away to you somewhere, rather a bachelor was listing, because and all this continues and with holmes she answers everything correctly, but only it was necessary to put a plus. yes and you put minus i'm
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shorter than the underworld box. here today's discussion was about the same, i listed some arguments, perhaps i will really hope that it was necessary to put plus they minus i wanted. veld had an article yesterday hmm completely, by accident i scrolled through, i didn’t know that it would be such a topic, which means it was written there that the growing popularity of an alternative for germany is explained, i quote, by the backward mentality of the inhabitants of the eastern lands of germany, that is, the former gdrovites. here i leave this assessment. naturally, it’s on the conscience of the authors of the article, but this gives me a reason to tell an anecdote from the times of the gdr, which means that eric hokker wakes up in the morning, like well, the sun rises. he says hello sun. hello comrade. general secretary. well, during the day he was at work too to the window, the sun. it's high up there. hello sun. good afternoon comrade general
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