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tv   Mesto vstrechi  NTV  August 16, 2023 2:00pm-4:01pm MSK

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i extinguished and extinguished my souls and democracy in ukrainian vsu, boasted of a new uniform for pregnant women, when the girls go into battle on an equal footing with men, the female uniform is a reminder that gender equality exists in the army, see right now. hello, is this the meeting place on ntv, the place where everything becomes clear? i'm andrey norkin. my colleague is ivan trushkin. we are working live throughout today's program. we will dedicate the course of the special war, the operation of different aspects. we will try to consider the military and political, but at the very beginning of the program. we will return to the recent. uh , an extremely serious incident in makhachkala, we already talked about this tragedy in our program yesterday. well, there are some additional facts, and that have appeared, i will say again that
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the investigation continues on the victims and on the dead at the moment, the figures are such 35 people died as a result of this explosion at a gas station, about 80 were injured, about 50 people out of these eighty are now in various hospitals at night today the plane of the ministry of emergency situations ah. dagestan delivered special equipment for extraction. doctors and psychologists flew under the rubble of the bodies of the dead, as well as excuse me, on the same plane, and the most seriously wounded were delivered to moscow in a special sport. it's only 16 people. all of them are now in moscow hospitals, and six of them were injured on an artificial lung machine. uh, the flight went to a normal state to satisfy, not without deterioration, the case of a fire and explosion in makhachkala will be investigated in the central office of the investigative committee. at the same time
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, crime specialists will take care of them. against state power. about this writes the edition of commerce, citing its sources explosions. called a violation of the storage of agrochemicals in a car service, investigators believe that a fire at a service station near a gas station at the entrance to makhachkala began during a car repair, the flame quickly spread to neighboring buildings, and it was there that they were easily stored, flammable fertilizers at the site of the tragedy later found the remains of bags. from under the highest grade ammonium nitrate, this version is confirmed by the power of the explosion, which was heard even in the city of kaspiysk and this is 30 km from makhachkala investigators are now finding out. why tons of explosive saltpeter were stored in a warehouse
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near a car service and gas station, according to the same merchant, the tenant of these service stations after the explosion is in the hospital to ask him now there is no way, the owner of the deposit of saltpeter was also injured in the explosion and is in critical condition. he was sent to moscow tonight the day before. vsk was delivered to the intended owner. these same bags from the ill-fated thirty-four-year-old ildar nasrulaev during interrogation. he could not explain why he was hiding from the authorities after the tragedy. these are shock resources. the head of dagestan , sergei melikov, said today that more than 400 buildings were damaged as a result of a fire and an explosion in makhachkala. mostly. all. these are living houses the day before melikov talked with putin and the president suggested that the authorities of the republic take advantage of federal support measures in connection with the emergency, how did they react to all these events in makhachkala in kiev in kiev? well i would call it the head of the national security and defense council of ukraine, mr. danilov, says with branded bestiality that what happened
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in dagestan is the way the authorities, the russian authorities , deliberately arrange an explosion in order to intimidate people more, well, ukrainian creatives also do not lag behind this bad logic. posted on his page in social networks the announcement of the party. in honor of the tragedy in makhachkala, it was called fiery makhachkala, it was assumed that the highlight of the program would be one of the first fire shows in the photo, the posters drew attention, ukrainian telegram channel, radical after which it quickly scattered and a wave of angry comments hit the club in ukrainian and then in russian publics. after that, access to the publication was closed there. well, later the owners of the club. they were tired of the accusations and called this poster a fake. i have andrey vladimirovich comments on the last similarity, but one of them will not work. uh, roskomnadzorovsky such comments. i also have, but in general, there is probably no point in them. let's e. hmm let's leave indeed this club without comment.
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let's go with our plan. so, i said that today we will consider aspects, military and political svo. let's start with the political let's start, but there was quite a noisy news. well, somehow everyone rushed to discuss it actively, but regarding the prospects for ukraine's entry into nato, it means, in short, the authors of this idea, at least the person who voiced it, and he is in the leadership. well, the north atlantic alliance, that is, one of the main military leaders there. and then i i don’t really know yet, was it his personal conclusion or was it the result of some brainstorming. well, in general, he said, the following hmm ukraine, in short, can be accepted into nato if it agrees to territorial concessions to russia now let's get into the details. on tuesday , nato chief of staff sten suggested that ukraine could get long-awaited nato membership in exchange for territorial concessions to russia. well, could this option
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be part of a deal to end the war? the solution could be that ukraine renounced the territory and received nato membership in return, there is already a discussion of the possible status of ukraine after the war and the issue of ceding the territory to russia is being raised , such a decision is quite possible, perhaps in kiev at first they didn’t even believe that jenson could say this, the head of the nbotanilov called the news stuffing, and the adviser the head of the office of the president of the terrorist zelensky, podolak said that the idea of ​​giving up territories in exchange for nato membership is a quote. just funny. in this scenario, democracy will fail, and putin will triumph in the same spirit. more a month ago, terrorist president zelensky himself spoke out. we will never exchange any status for any of our territories , even if it is one village in which one lives, grandfather, we will not give up our territory and
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will never exchange it for a frozen conflict , this will never happen to me our partners clearly know the position, despite their obstinacy. in kiev, the west seems to be actively preparing ukrainians for a compromise . i'll have to give in territories, the garden newspaper also believes that in case of failures at the front. ukrainians will be forced to give up their lands to russia, but american experts are already openly saying to kiev and crimea that we should definitely forget that ukraine's infrastructure is being destroyed daily. and this is a very good reason why ukraine needs to end the war, in order to end the war they need to forget about crimea more countries are calling for negotiations.
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with russia, it was necessary to say that there will be a very difficult political season for everyone, i warn all these voices that are beginning to be heard in different countries of the world that there are problems, that negotiations are needed, we will do everything within the framework of international law and criminal law so that these voices fade away . well, quite a few years ago there was such a well-known formula. we vanya - with vanya just remembered oil in exchange for nato food in exchange for territories viktor zhozevich. as far as in your opinion, this is a real scenario, but the fact is that there are too many who are interested in preventing this from happening, and this question or this statement of the nato representative was made precisely with the expectation of the reaction of kiev that we heard. they understood very well there what they would answer in kiev. and why should it be shown that nato, in general, and the west well, it is ready for compromises, it, and not he, but it is pushing
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ukraine to these actions. well, the ukrainians intend to fight, and for their freedom and territory. and the west, of course, just as the ukrainians intend to continue to fight, it’s not the west that is forcing them, then the west will be further, or they really wanted us to. show that they are at this price. to consider such a global south to the countries of the so-called what used to be called the countries of the world ivan sergeevich in parallel with these statements that another 24 billion dollars are being allocated from the united states from your interview before the program. i understand that you think that nato is dropping everything for a reason, but there is some kind of plan to explain. a plan what the secretary of the secretary of nato said about this e territory in exchange for membership of this is one of the most realistic scenarios for the end of the conflict, about which serious people categorically disagree,
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it turns out with e. victor jozech. no, nato is also considering it. that is. you see, if you understood correctly, you see, he said that this is one of the options for one scenario , the only question is how much territory and what territories. now this is the only thing now just fucking or late. we will definitely come if we are not going to reach. we are not going to lvov . apparently, we don’t need it, then the option in which a piece of ukraine enters nato is optimal for us, because i will explain. we can contradict what he says, including vladimir putin and nato and ukraine things are not acceptable for us in the current ukraine in the current borders are unacceptable. i didn’t knock them, they explain the lump, this is purely pragmatics, pure pragmatics, if after the end of the war we demand that this one will knock them out ukraine there western ukraine because that it will not remain, nato will not enter this
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demand, they can accept it. some documents must be signed anyway, they will throw it with this demand. five years later, 10 years later, here in the studio he said that if this one, as georgievich puts it, will join nato, it will not be bad, because nato will still control him, and you said. yes, i just forgot that well, as an option, that is, in principle. once again i say, we leave them without revision, we hand over, then it requires a request for the requirements of the so-called, which ship it will not be executed in return, we get some kind of pragmatics. this is a package deal. we already just see, yes, let's, we can now, firstly, discuss any plan , uh, the section that we are talking about is possible from the other side only in one case, if they see that you are cooperating, that it is not able to task. as a matter of fact, it will be a game in minsk on a large scale, that is , ok, nothing happened. we are ready to meet halfway, but let's remember one thing, when we say it will cover ukraine, so too what size will this one be, how much will it have military potential. if we
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say that let's say, uh, the territory of the back industry will be part of nato, it will be replenished, it will be armed, and you will still get a second conflict. next conflict. for the simple reason that nato is today the united states they express no desire to speak. a big deal, and only a big deal can be a real end to the conflict deal is what? well, that is, this is the establishment of some new the rules of the coexistence of the west and russia are some definite boundaries and rules of conduct, in which each takes into account the interest of the other to a certain degree and does not unconditionally provoke the other into the military personnel of the new division. russia even reminded the rest of what we are talking about. i'll just remind you that this is a special military operation. it was arranged not to annex certain territories to russia, but to ensure its security and the denotification of ukraine. and if nazi ukraine remains a back industry, you still get a range of these sizes. if you understand
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how good it is for us to know about the size of this piece. i’m trying to formulate here, if nazi ukraine remains there, if it doesn’t remain , if it’s all although this is also, to be honest, i don’t understand why we are there, the lviv region is there, ternopil is some kind or like yusin, the kolomye say to us fuck oh sorry, this is what you need. we are like with them there, then we will, why then let them do theirs there as conditionally, well, of course, but then it says only that you can join nato but as a neutral state that will not represent nominally. you can be there without representing aggression, that is, well, we have a country, no, neutral states. once again, this is a conversation. you already know about the agreement, inside, of which the conditions will be established. look at the territory, it may be under the mandate of nato, but at the same time there should be a little more let's try again, because it seems to me that you
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immediately switched, and to the analysis of our position and immediately everyone began to explain why we don’t like it, is it not necessary or is there morality? i still want to go back again, we throw kiev aside, because everything was really clear there , what they would say about the statement of this uncle it is said there to the global south, no, this is some kind of look and i'm still trying to understand why? because if our position is also clear. well, why then these statements, because they know what is important the context of this statement was made in the framework of the discussion. yes, this discussion is held, in fact for the sake of discussion. here , look, for example, in the north atlantic manias, and they give the north atlantic alliance a question, see there is no ukraine, there are no successes at the front as part of the counteroffensive. and what will be the position of the reaction of the north atlantic alliance, how, with such water ukraine, in
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principle, join the atlantic alliance and, uh, there is somehow further to fight for its own decision. this is the problem of the impossibility of entry. yes, he answers. well, there is various options. in particular. one of them suggests that it is possible. that is, you are the discussion. you understand that if such options are not on the table, he will never happen, he will talk about the fact that we support democracy against bloody russia that, if necessary, nato holds its back, but until the time has come and so on, but he does not pronounce the option of exchanging one, i see one goal such a strategic world is coming. the redistribution needs a new big deal, which andrei said, i am absolutely here with him i agree in order to defend our positions as much as possible in this big deal for the future. well, well, a number of conditions are necessary, one of the prerequisites is a haggard, shabby, and partly exhausted russian federation, when this happens
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it will be easier to negotiate with it. and if there is a goal, you can hold discussions, you can try different things and do if your opponent's discussions are already advancing see shabby. some of us are waiting there. why should he then some go, yes meetings. yes it is so far, nothing but the words imposed thrown. this is precisely the discussion that saw that there are different people in nato. they had so many. two meetings, one was in denmark, yes, in my opinion , yes, and the second was in saudi arabia. here they all gather there, too, some words. they even say some working groups have come up with a discussion of the ukrainian clan. yes , as vladimir putin said, if you want to fill up some business, create a working group. and you say that, uh, the road map has nothing to do with it, that the global south, a bunch of your problems and for them the russian ukrainian conflict - this, uh, means a factor that
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exacerbates an already, yes, difficult existence. they will be happy with any resolution of this nato conflict in exchange for territories. okay that india will be against either china or or africa like them or the arab world so that there is no pointless signal to send, they have enough. opportunities to communicate with the global south on different platforms, but what this statement testifies to is that it sounded from not the last person in nato testifies to for one thing, everything is going badly enough for the west, and it is going very badly. i'm sure it 's on right now. uh, negotiation process, even if not between us and them, but there is some process going on between them. and now we are seeing the echoes of this process, one way or another , these stuffing really goes to the subject. this means that these are signals to see how we will react, that how they look at it, think through
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, and calculate different options for resolving the conflict. but i state from what i see, uh, the statement of a nato member is not the first before this scholz. uh, before that, all this stuffing in the media is not the latest media and so on goes the umbrella. give ground on how to end this conflict, it must be ended, because the further, the worse if it is marin. give ground to us when we see some kind of formulated proposal and in which case we will see who this proposal is from. this is how we will see the formulated proposal in the event that , for example, there will be some kind of meeting with the director of the cia, bill burns, who is our chief emissary for the buyd administration for any negotiations with russia. if he comes to moscow or we have some kind of meeting on neutral territory, like ankara or abu , if this happens, it will be possible to say that, as some kind of proposal , washington was ready in the first place. we offer it. abbas is absolutely right. yes, these are zones. dash the soil in relation to russia specifically. well, listen guys, if you had to agree on something with the global south, and tell something about it, they would send the same burns or mr. moore
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from mi6 to these countries, and he would be fine with them. told not to do. drain, especially in the german press. you see, i still understand this in english, the leak was in the german press. and who in the world, except germany itself, is so actively watching and, uh, paying attention to the german press. we are russia , so it was, of course, a signal. me with saudi arabia is not china and the ninja. they don't even follow the german press as actively as we do. well, that's why in this case it's somehow complicated. and you can add more andrey at the same time, you need to raise, you understand, initially keep in mind that the russians are following the german wars, of course. and why exactly at the same time it is not necessary to think that they will not be at the same time. uh, u- to increase the supply of weapons in parallel with this, money will go. i only wanted from the german press. sorry, not one year is equal to many years, of course, quietly, which we all regulated, but this is the american press. here there is something else now. there regularly appear publications that this
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ukrainian counteroffensive is not the last thing we need to prepare for next year, that we need to issue more weapons, that is, i don’t really see that the english-language press somehow echoed. here is this near peaceful mood. let's see the material. last monday , german finance minister christian lindner said that berlin expects to allocate 5 billion euros to ukraine over the next 4 years , the funds have already been included in the german budget. such a significant expense. the minister explains this way kiev supposedly defends european values ​​from infa. we always stand on side of ukraine our values ​​are also protected here, and with them the european order of peace and freedom as a whole, so ukraine can continue to count on the support of germany we signed an agreement with the ministry of finance of ukraine because we want to help not only with money and weapons, but also in our image , the united states is obviously betting on a long war
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last week, joe biden. asked congress for an additional $13 billion in military aid to ukraine, more of that money should go to new weapons to lend to white house. at the same time, they emphasize for not the last, as the war will definitely not end this year, and the support of ukraine is important for the national security of the american people. we are confident that this support will continue as we work together to make sure the ukrainian people get everything they need to continue fighting for their freedom for a protracted war . next year, and the british times. writes, that before christmas the war will definitely not end, while american politicians. the questions are getting louder and louder. is the game worth the candle, it was in 2014 in ukraine there were mass riots maidan development agency, the united states, which was covered by the cia, invested $ 5 billion to
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finance these riots. we have now invested 113 billion dollars there and they answer us . don't worry. this money will not remain in ukraine. everything is returned. the kiev regime is also preparing its own population as a us military contractor for a protracted war on the eve deputy prime minister of ukraine irina vershchuk said that the military conflict with russia will not end either this year or next spring, according to her, the path will be long and difficult, and the people will tune in to a long struggle viktor rust. this all pours water on the mill of your theory that no one wants to finish anything, as long as you can suck strength out of russia. as long as possible, as much as possible, everyone will be doing this in it, no peaceful initiatives will be able to sweep. this statement i will repeat this statement, this is what we discussed in past in the past segment. it is just from the copenhagen jito series. in this this is not a signal to russia, no one, unfortunately, to the great regret, does not send signals from russia that it is not necessary to give us territories. what
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signals? i don't think we 're going to carry out a special operation somehow. further, based on the signals, it reads some signals there. there they will serve us, but uh, if they signal each other there, we can conclude, therefore, the plot, although further we will be completely different, that they all really tune in, like you and speak of course tunes in to prolonged potentially very prolonged conflict. and this is exactly what is needed. here is an announcement that maybe the war can be ended in this way by giving it back to the russians. and this is some kind of opinion. i don’t know some defeatists there , why they say this so that they don’t understand themselves responsible for them . no, well, ukrainians and russians can’t, can’t, don’t want to. they want to continue. yes, well , the first problem here, well, the position of the ukrainian leadership. it is clear and understandable that any
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any such compromise will immediately lead to the fall of power and the government of both zelensky and kuleb. nothing will remain of the danilovs anyway, sooner or later. this is true, when even when the americans, the british, some allies, will get the opportunity to be practically punished without wasting their human resources to harm the russian federation to kill russian soldiers and officers, when it is still the modern afghan war and the third biden administration, she still has one and a half years before elections. you understand that if such a compromise, it will run to this, you will run, but, well, i will also consider him his political opponents will claim that he has won - and do not say we have the biggest one, so europe works for him will say so much money ice cream, do not stop. where where do the russians say they were seized for a year, i
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am practically sure that in a year and a half and through the action andrei nikolaevich the first different intensity. is it true. that's what they were coming from the investors of the war. naturally, they are interested in keeping it going. here the question is, you are their very comfortable situation. we are abandoning the ukrainians. this means that they are dying on the front line , mr. zelensky drives first the disabled, then the women, then how they are getting ready. there, according to the program of children, in short, we will show it now. yes, the fact that mr. boris johnson called the war for ordinary ukrainians is fine, when we talk about a possible plan , we are talking about the fact that people will insure themselves in case this system stops working if after bad contrast. the front starts to break. and this may well arise if a protracted war does not work out, and ukraine begins to crumble. for some reason, everyone forgot about august, it's hot, a protracted war should be such that this is how it is, here is the line
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of contact. that's the time and it was there in august. it is difficult to say anything about this, but there is a winter ahead, which will be very sad for ukraine. and we are already open. they say it will not be comparable to the winter of last year. and these are the help that are sent there. she won't help and it seems to me indeed this is a problem. and this is the metal that can break. and if it breaks, what do you say, watch how it all collapses, and how russia moves towards achieving its goals, then let's turn it on. let's talk about the world. let's turn on new minsk let's somehow stop this resource. and then it will be necessary to save the situation, and here is one of the ways to save it. of course, i answer victor's task in such a way that it is not an end in itself to keep us in a position longer. first, under the biden administration, there is no talk of what it will be implemented under the biden administration, of course, will not be under the biden. this is a scheme that will be implemented after the biden,
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because the biden cannot stand up and tell the voters you know i fired you, because it is for a second term, but probably. well, listen well, again, they will rise from the grave of the voters. let's see, he will go to the elections for a start, will he reach the elections in the main to be more humane in relations, and the second thesis is that there, for some reason, murder for him russians harming russia is a great end in itself, which he will not, or what? why is it a tool to weaken russian damage? no, just a second for some i don’t know poles, maybe jokes. it can be self-made for you don't have to assume that people in washington. so petty to them just now, this is how the conflict is going now. this is how it is now going on, it is categorically a long conflict not profitable, because the more it rains this conflict, when russia does not give up, when russia does not
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demonstrate, weakness does not demonstrate collapse, the more they destabilize american system around the world. the more potential other sources of instability arise, other countries began to think that they were after and so on, that the united states is ready to endure 7-8 years and see what will happen to russia no, not really. why there i heard was about china at the same time. that is, look. let 's not even think of anything. let's look at the official national security strategy document adopted last september. it openly says that the confrontation with russia is in fact in fact, the confrontation with china yes, the goal of the americans is not to destabilize russia . because it is so distrustful of the russians that this is the destabilization of the most important ally. china’s northern borders with china, which we have a huge yes of energy flows and so on, that is, for them, uh, it’s just a tool, but one
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step in a big confrontation with china at the moment when they realize that they can’t destabilize the situation in russia spent a huge amount of resources. and now they are running out of history with taiwan from competition from china. and now they are already they begin to feel this in the shortage of the same shells and missiles, then, of course, they will be forced to find some kind of formula for how we can freeze the conflict in ukraine, pump it up there, then with weapons. perhaps they are already western ukraine, wait, wait a contradiction. and why would they end the conflict in ukraine if so wait if you are now saying that everything that is happening now is actually an attempt to destabilize china well, let them continue, then the us resources they are of course large-scale, but they are not endless, that's why admin. let's openly admit that they have a shortage in certain categories of weapons, for example, shells and missiles, and for good reason, a variety of military analysts. well, mostly related specifically to the us air force. that is, the topic who is now being trained to compete with china is complaining that here is
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another six months of the war and we will not have any missiles at all. and how can we compete about the fact that they launched their vc on a military channel, what are they ready to understand? all these stories will sit forward five. i read about a year. sorry well, a year. you see, they promised to increase the production of shells to 30,000 per month by the summer of this year. somehow they increased it to 24,000, that is, they are already behind the schedule next year, it seems, how it will be 80,000. well, for example, if we take the development of hypersonic missiles, they failed. although they should have been put into service last year, the problem is a lot of problems with logistics, lack of engineering personnel. and so on. it’s just that at one point the americans will realize that they didn’t spend too much here and the game is already not worth the candle in the first place. turn precisely military resources will switch to other stories. here, i agree, by the way, here, yes. uh-huh well, i think in the range of about one year it will happen, let's talk. through what concerns the biden administration and his position to him just like, again, many.
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uh, the same political technologists, the parties are also leaking this information to the american media , to some extent it would be beneficial to appear as a kind of peacemaker who, on the one hand, sort of started this whole conflict, and on the other hand, then ended it introduced a man who was able to save at least part of ukraine from falling under the control of russia and so on, of course, it will not be the hawk window that will criticize him. nobody argues with this, but we understand that now the last poll of the south, which came out in the us shows that 56% of americans are ready to negotiate with russia if they bring a truce, that is, public opinion is gradually changing inside america. so , things are changing in europe. therefore, such a peacekeeping position is already becoming, perhaps, a little more popular right now. and in a year they would be quite popular. and, of course, biden may well have a motivation to knock this trump card out of his hands. well , donald trump. let's, let's talk, or rather, listen to ivan sergeyevich literally in a couple of minutes.
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of justice and democracy. in general, they promised you about trump. let's talk about trump in the fourth new criminal case. against him, the former president of the united states is ordered to report to jail, report to jail - it's such a very american prison story. it's in the pound county. georgia local sheriff trump demands it remove the deadline until august 25 in prison , the ex-president will be arrested, photographed, and they would also take fingerprints. after that, trump can apply for release on bail, but this is at the discretion of the court, the trial should take place on the day he arrives at the prison, in fact, the earlier indictment against trump. he is suspected of trying to illegally influence the outcome of the 2020 presidential election, a georgia grand jury of such ordinary americans, similar is not so much interested. a little bit of business. how much opportunity here to personally talk with the former us president i would like to hear the former president, not only
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to hear, to be honest, i wanted to call him to court. because i was supposed to swear people in there, and i thought it would be cool to get these 60 seconds of personal communication with president trump, only he and i would look at him and ask, do you swear to tell the truth and only the fucking truth, that would be awesome. and now let's take a closer look. what, after all, trump is accused of by only 13 articles in the indictment, including conspiracy to forge documents and inciting government officials to break their oaths. the heaviest article is a violation of the organized crime law, according to accusers of the ex-president and his accomplices. there are as many as thirteen eighteen people, all these next trump scratches. they refused to admit defeat both consciously and minds. came in on the side one of the charges concerns trump's call to georgia officials asking them to find the missing votes to win over brother. the first court session in the new
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case against trump is scheduled for august 25, and it will be broadcast live and the prosecutor has already advised trump not to delay and surrender as soon as possible. i give the opportunity to the accused. to voluntarily surrender no later than noon on august 25, i remind everyone that then we are talking only about the readiness to begin consideration of the case, based on the decision of the jury. now the task of my unit is to officially prove the suspicions that trump himself has already promised to strike back. and even named his date. on august 21, on this very day, he will present, as he promises , a detailed report on what did happen in georgia. this is to order it not wine. i won the georgia election by 100,000 more votes, that's my opinion. and this is a strong opinion. and i think that it is supported by the facts. and we will see it andreyevich i am already ready to bet money that they will pack it before the elections.
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let it be for a couple of days, but i read somewhere that if so, uh, and then he himself will participate in the elections. if he chooses wins, he can pardon himself. well theoretically yes, let's stop. listen, my brain is going to boil. and this garbage still in a little over a year will take place in detail there we will tell about all this. let's get back to our topic so if we stop here on the thesis that hmm well, most likely. and the desire to drag out the conflict of that side. prevails over other desires. so, they still have to embody this desire. eh, into reality by someone's hands. well that's when we talk there proxy war, yes, that is, it is a war that is being waged by proxy, that is, we need ukrainians and weapons themselves weapons. you can deliver there. eh, where to get the ukrainians? there is no way to supply them there from somewhere, even if in those e men who fled from
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ukraine are now hiding in european countries, they begin to catch and send back, sort of like a conversation. there is such a thing. show us the following material, please last week, the verkhovna rada submitted a bill to restrict travel abroad of men aged 16 to 18, critics consider this to be the preparation of the kiev authorities for the conscription of teenagers into the ranks of the armed forces shortly before that, the ministry of defense of ukraine presented a special military uniform for women , according to assurances, very conveniently tailored taking into account the characteristics of the female figure and even pregnant women can wear it. the fit is designed so that the tightness of the fit around the waist is adjustable. so it can come in handy even in early pregnancy. the western press explains the tightening of conscription conditions in ukraine a huge shortage in the military registration and enlistment offices the british edition of the guardian writes that there are no volunteers in the square; those who fundamentally do not want to go to war either sit
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at home or pay off the military enlistment office at a standard fee of $ 5,000, those who are ready to pay the military enlistment office are helped to flee abroad, according to the fan times the number of ukrainian men detained recently while trying to fall over the hill is equivalent to five, brigades of the armed forces, the ukrainian border service reports almost 20,000 detained on february 24 last year on about 6,000 people were detained at checkpoints while trying to cross the border on forged documents, and 13,600 people were stopped outside the checkpoints who intended to cross the border line alone or in groups and hide outside ukraine military commissars explaining this by saying that corruption during general mobilization is a real threat to national security, ukrainian human rights activists foreshadow a new wave
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of mobilization, under which hundreds of thousands will fall a person of people who have been in the trenches for a year and a half at the forefront physiologically need to be restored, they need to be replaced by someone. these are hundreds of thousands of people who will have to be mobilized. and this means that of the three of us, someone will definitely be taken, and then the second, and then the third, despite desperate attempts. kiev potential soldiers in ukraine is becoming less and less. the population of the country, as the deputy of the verkhovna rada from the party, the servant of the people, georgiy mazurash, assures , could be reduced by half to 20 million. to avoid further current, the kiev authorities want prohibit men from leaving the country for 3 years after the end of hostilities , denisenko, adviser to the head of the ministry of internal affairs, said that such a measure would help ukrainians survive as a nation. so, when we showed, in the first part there was a story in which the german finance minister appeared, he said, remember, yes, he gave an interview there. by the way, he gave an interview to the german
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media, not ukrainian. and he said that we want to help ukraine not only with people and weapons, but also remember our experience. yes, i still think so, damn it, that's what he means. how he wants to share his german experience, vladivostovich, and the germans had experience, but i don’t know about pregnant women at the front, but there were old teenagers there, however, this was already when there was a fire. they understand that somehow something is not right here, uh, there is still agony in ukraine. no, this is also worth understanding when it comes to the fact that they will announce a new wave of mobilization, but it is like this in fact, it does not stop. but, and they still have a resource, judging by the same ukrainian publics, i read, including comments, and there are a lot of people. eh, probably hundreds of thousands of, uh, men who have not yet been mobilized, but they just sit and wait for their
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turn, and moreover with wording. well , when they call, then they will go. of course, there is an active part that is trying to leave somehow to seep beyond the border of ukraine, they are caught. there are those who tried to pay off and now, probably, their indulgences will be reset to zero after the change of all military commissars. that is, there is still no resource in ukraine? it will most likely be raised. just worth the cost will not be five, there do not know family or 10 indulgence. cancel no. i say to be again, to collect money again there one way or another through this sieve and someone else will be selected. there is money, even someone has already run out. and even if this resource runs out, there are still baltic countries ahead, not far away, but in moldova there may be problems. poles, please, are also excellent resources. and this can go on for years , so i'm on the side, you see, which says that it should, if we are talking about human resources, your vision of the picture confirms their intentions to delay
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and drag you in. well, let's just say they really have a resource, but let's talk about quality. uh, people are deeply demoralized. this is a fact, what a difference and so on, what quality is the difference, because if we are talking about meat, but we saw the same, artyomovsk for example. how many people were thrown there, did they have a resource for this? well, it’s not enough to drag out the conflict, they can still. indeed, it says that it is somehow effective or there. well, i would not, well, especially ukrainian publics, well, not the most with all due respect. eh, reliably not the most reliable source for information. here is another question, even if we combine, yes, the information block, which we talked about before. and this topic. eh, right there. do you understand what? what is the essence of the west, and i believe that it is there that everything is decided. i think there will be little to argue with this, or maybe quite calmly with one hand to really send weapons money. uh, meat, uh,
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indeed , both poland and the baltic states . if they are not at all i doubt it, because this does not mean at all that nato will participate, this will be a problem. poles poles can calmly and they still are. well, a huge number of polish mercenaries. this is an even number of mercenaries, but it seems to me very doubtful that in the same poland one can deploy some. there is no relational company at least there for a little bit, but nevertheless , to rotate, there is already a huge number and constantly replenish rotate for the sake of god with one hand, the west will do it one thing does not exclude the other, with the other hand the options will really get over all the time. e stop this conflict. as malik correctly said, uh, they want to come to that key point now. well, let's say, indeed, the arrival of the head of the cia in moscow , let's say, or a meeting with them. they want
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to approach this moment as prepared as possible with the maximum possible inviting him to moscow, but, nevertheless, channels of communication exist. i'm sure we're waiting for some kind of offer. for god's sake, another question is that they are fighting now not in order to defeat them. they do not believe in the defeat, russia, they do not understand what the victory of ukraine is. they do not realize. and what is the defeat of russia is not a thought. they are now fighting to get to this key moment as much as possible and on favorable terms to win yes, yes, will it be yes so that later what to write in their media yes, why they won, let's say so, of course, will it be there? by choice or after the election. uh, it's not clear how much this whole thing will be after the next ones, right? or after yes? that is, how long it will be is unknown, i i guess, and they don't know, that's why they're really wrapping up their budgets for a few years ahead. they are really preparing for a protracted conflict, but whether it will be protracted is not a fact not a fact, it may happen. look here. uh, the failure
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of the counterattack is uh. the first one is like this too. yes, will there be a serious failure of the second circuit? do we have a resource here? how correctly we cited such quotes, we will pray for him. he will fail a second time. it will be another hit. and from these blows the path will develop. here is the agreement some, perhaps, it is possible, the filling of the ukrainian army. maybe, by the way, here, then with some kind of pebble that will outweigh. i understand that no one has seen it here. i'm trying not now. just when christ began to talk about the poles of the balts. you started out negative. so you understand, the poles of the balts, this is the transition of the conflict, do you understand to another stage? everything that is now mostly said in the west, says, after all, about the war to the last ukrainians. and here there is such a very important point, but look at 1917 at the beginning of the seventeenth year, the resource of the russian empire in terms of mobilization. was there a disappearance? no, what happened to the army, but one simple thing happened to the army today, the army stopped understanding why and why and how it howls to people who separately dealt with
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ukraine last autumn in kherson. this is the expectation of a counter offensive. it was such a very powerful coat. when you recruit people who are not very walking, but walking and waiting for victory , you understand if it turns out that coffins are coming to you, coffins, coffins, if you constantly a publication that the places in the cemeteries have run out they are closed and this is already the western press. and this is constantly going on, if mr. zelensky comes, who promised you a month ago that tomorrow he will drink coffee in the crimea in yalta, and today he says, get ready for a long war. you understand that people are taking you away to die and pulling out the resource that we say, the resource remains there, which is the last thing that saves. this includes defense enterprises, are ukrainians ready, we now talked a lot about uniforms and enterprises are ready to be formally, but whether it will work is still a big question. yes? look, we'll have time yet georgievich, i don't know, right? come on, come on, one and a half, probably still
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there. i try to keep the resource short. indeed, firstly, it is not only a military, but also an emotional resource. people should understand what they are fighting for, but in addition to this, the resource also includes other things , political resources, if the ukrainian leadership has, and political resources in the west, so that the west continues to help is not a fact, because zelensky zelensky is extremely satisfied with his behavior, if they have an economic it is called our bitch for the last 2 years. you, among other things, tell us that you are dissatisfied with zelensky and so on, nevertheless, all this continues, therefore they do not accept it, the more this dissatisfaction for when now he is trying to openly make the americans to blame for the failure of the ukrainian counteroffensive. before the election campaign in the united states, such things are not forgiven john bolton echoes him in this, as if there are economic resources economic resource, then self-destruction ukrainian economy. if someone is going to tell now, something does not matter, because the western financial flow will be endless, they will give as much as time.
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this is not what the american election says, when you have more than 50 % of the us population opposed to an increase in us bailouts, you lose a bunch of extra money yet again will show some kind of trouble again will show some patience and and of course arises aside all year, that is economic resources of ukraine do exist until so far, but he has not practically reversed the trend towards exhaustion. how long can the ukrainian army and just the state resist the task here. the west is no longer to win, and to get out of the war on the worthy. we will continue this weighing of these ukrainian resources now and there will be a pause. we'll be back on the air in a few minutes. my name is oleg. i am not an alcoholic in my life. no, no bandits.
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of power this is the meeting place on ntv, the place where everything becomes clear. we continue to be our regular viewers. i want to reassure you somehow, so that you can look at our seating arrangement and be afraid that there, but not easier and constant, have switched to the dark side of the force. no, this is not so, they are still our jedi, it’s just that today we wanted to gather as many people as possible on this topic
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yes, those who are directly related to the events we are discussing yes, and experts, but the opinion is, as it were, according to the first hour they could understand, they are completely, as it were there are a lot of different kind of kryuchkov for which thoughts clings and you can discuss all this, so do not be alarmed. everything is fine. so, once again today we are discussing, as i said, the military and political aspects of the special military operation. and well, all the time we are trying to understand what kind of resource ukraine has left with the west , what they have developed , what they have . i would call it a terrorist resource uh-huh that's for sure they haven't worked out yet. and today we received new confirmations. now let's show the footage that was published by the cnn channel. what is their peculiarity? synn claims that they received these footage from the security service
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of ukraine severe injuries, what proves? this is, in fact, the fact that the sbu transmitted the video to cnn for the first time to the security services of ukraine in fact. takes responsibility for this terrorist attack the service provided the tv company with a video showing the last seconds. before being stuffed with almost a ton of explosives, the pilotless boat crashes into the reinforced concrete support of the bridge. in two other recordings, here is the hut, there is also footage that the boat is attacking the automobile part of the bridge, the explosion is visible from several angles, the head of the sbu vasily malyukov in an interview with cnn said that the c-baby drone was used for the attack. well, if translated into our language into the sea, the kid was allegedly made by ukrainian specialists. ukraine was modest to the last saying that these powerful explosions could be the result of the work of some unidentified
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floating objects, but no longer be modest, the head of the sbu told us that this is only the beginning of sea surface drones, a unique development of the sbu, the manufacture of drones is carried out at one of the underground production facilities on the territory of ukraine. we have a lot of interesting operations in water areas of the black sea. i promise it will be a surprise. especially for our enemies. well, ukraine continues to show running up, pretending that it can establish some kind of special rules of its own, shipping in the black sea. that came out of the sport of odessa. the first ship after the termination of the grain deal. uh trading according to the ministries of the ministry of infrastructure. ukrainian ship. it's called joseph schulte. this is a container ship. there are more than 30,000 tons of cargo. including, as separately explained and food it follows. with the flag of the race yes, along the temporary corridor for civilian ships, it was announced by ukraine that it is heading for voskhod, while the temporary corridors were originally planned by kiev
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for the evacuation of only civilian, and in no way merchant ships from the southern ports of ukraine. well, the wall street jorny publication, citing its own sources, writes that the united states is discussing ukraine with turkey with several of its allies, alternative routes for exporting grain from ukrainian ports, most probably now an option. here we have a map. this is along the danube, across the e, which means this coast to the territory of romania from where grain will be transported from romania to other countries this option is longer this option is more expensive than the one that was used in the prize deal, but in doing so, as figuring out the same sharp jordan found out no alternatives. the united states and turkey see no other now, since the overland grain export routes developed by the european union. they may not be substantially expanded, but have a special role there. they don’t play in the pentagon , but at the same time they denied any military decisions in order to resume the work of ukrainian grain carriers in the black sea, as the department said, washington is not
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going to introduce any convoys in order to cover transit from ukrainian ports here so as not to irritate russia the us does not have any means in the black sea we continue to monitor the situation we have made it clear that we do not seek war with russia there is fighting in which we are supporting ukraine but for now moment. i have nothing to say about the black sea or any provision for the movement of ships. well, now andrey ivanovich, the military component , can be entirely a sbushnik. he said that it was just the beginning for them. there are a lot of interesting projects. in the black sea. they make a lot of weapons there. and let's in the next material there, just here is an analysis of what they showed there, what they lost. and this is our official data from our ministry of defense and calculations from the western press. let's see. a
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newspaper recently wrote about the colossal losses of the apu, the new york times, according to its data, the number of killed wounded ukrainian soldiers at the beginning of a special military operation reached 150,000. on this background. the french defense minister boasted that paris had trained a new batch of ukrainian soldiers, stating that a new generation of ukrainian soldiers needed a quote for the new ukrainian counter-offensive, the military in early august, given the loss of the ukrainian side, was published by our ministry of defense. only first of the so-called counter-offensive. highly lost more than 43,000 military, this figure does not include wounded foreign mercenaries evacuated in the hospital of ukraine and abroad, as well as military personnel eliminated as a result of strikes with long-range precision weapons in the rear areas. at the same time, the most independent it is becoming more and more difficult to hide colossal losses in ukrainian social networks, they constantly publish videos of local cemeteries , which are replenished every day with fresh dead soldiers, so what are you, now, kiev even began
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to open old graves to make room for new burials ukrainian military prisoners say that the leadership is just sent the soldiers were put to the slaughter in the position of information, they gave little connection. with the support of what nibulons and artillery of the nybulon aid of the diving group, yako invented the badge. he just dumped us speak with technology at the asu. also problems according to our ministry of defense. only at the beginning, the ukrainian offensive lost about 5,000 pieces of equipment, including 26 aircraft, more than 20 american infantry fighting vehicles, 25 german tanks, moreover, western equipment sinks in the mud or fails on the battlefield, footage of burning leopards caused a resonance even in the west. although local journalists tried to convince viewers that it was a fake? if you're here look at this rectangle. you will see the fire in the form of a tank, but the fire does not burn, an even rectangle. if you look closely at
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the image, it looks like an overlay effect. let's start with you, because kiev defined the zaporozhye region as one of the main counter-offensive directorates . here is your assessment, if you evaluate their resources , the resource present is not as small as we would like to actually be here. here i am everyone. e, as it were, yes, here, uh, i will ask you to refrain from throwing a hat of heaven on earth so yes, yes. well, because now everything is cool in the expert community. all counterattacks failed. uh, we can rest no, everything, in fact, is not just starting from the fact that force legalized the information , but the forum said that supposedly the eighty-second yes, sort of, uh, the brigade, yes, the assault landings are already the last forces. these are not the last forces, in my opinion, they talked about it. here we will summarize it, about so many came out literally, that is, here they are talking about it. you need to understand that the eighty-
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second. yes, this is the elite in their tasks it was just to go through different paramogens. well, that is, the victory parades in sevastopol. yes, this is it what was voiced, uh, in the uh ukrainian community before i therefore ask you. here, if we try not to pay attention to what they voice there for themselves. they were supposed to go along the lines of victory in sevastopol, but today they are fighting on the first line. uh, the defense of the surovikin line has been directly worked on. i mean a little. in short, the ukrainian language came to guess itself. yes, that is, they planned one thing turned out a little worse, and now the situation is very difficult in the area of ​​​​the former time ledge. why am i saying the former, because, well, de facts, they cut it off, these are settlements located in a lowland, this is such small consolation that they are in a lowland, but nevertheless, the enemy passed there and now, in addition to the battle for harvest, by the way, here in fighting for it this is a small town. well, in fact, the village , uh, the enemy lost in 20 days, well, over
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7,000 people. exactly. that is, it is a very large number of it in fact. well, maybe even three brigades. yes, if we take it in the classification that exists now, if well, if there was a map, then in addition to the fruitful battle for the south of the fruitful, they are now trying to advance, southwest of you notice the desire we will show. yes, what resources are often populated on the maps during their counteroffensive. ukraine still has to bring someone into battle. so continue this counteroffensive. they are generally present, or we are now looking at some sort of - again, they remove various sighs, which is just about, just about, and then they will no longer be able to do anything, except to sit in the trenches and shoot back from the arteries. this is not the last gasp, but then again it is my personal opinion from those calculations that were used. uh, 9.10 army corps. yes, here are the same e forcibly mobilized people, but nevertheless, holding weapons in their hands. terra baron and so on. in my opinion over 20,000 militants.
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they definitely still have this great power. this is a small force for the entire front, but it is quite enough for a pinpoint strike or , god forbid, in the area, work on or in the area. uh, the same old line, which is not trying to break through, since it is a settlement located at a height and after it opens and so on. uh, on the map, we will go through the settlements, because we also want to draw your attention to those settlements that we are liberating. i'm a little more about the resource. here, konstantin valentinovich, you tell me, here is how i should perceive the following figures. this is, uh, data received, and from the ministry of defense of various nato countries, that means, here let's take only leopard tanks. nothing more until we take either french or e. english means leopards and 14 second leopards received from poland more than 100 leopard pieces. one from germany denmark the netherlands eight second leopards from canada
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and norway six second leopards from spain eighteenth leopards from germany three second leopards from portugal what does this mean? well, first let's look at the quality. so there are three types of leopards, so to speak. these are 18 leopards, which are the most modern from germany. a6 is a very serious tank with powerful armor, frontal protection and a high effective cannon with a barrel length of 55 calibers, which has a huge penetrating ability, surpassing in predictability what the abrams-44 caliber has. tank leopard 2 a4 - these are the a2s that are others. he is a tank in terms of the level of the eighty-fifth year, a 44-caliber gun, the armor resistance of the frontal projection does not
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meet modern requirements , it breaks through our shells into the frontal projection. in particular. here it breaks through with shells, like these mango, here from a distance of 2 km here, nevertheless, it has a completely fire control system too formidable adversary. well, the eighty-fifth year in terms of level corresponds in something stronger to something weaker with our t-80 bv tank of this class t-72b t-72. here is what i have just listed. and now you have deciphered all this to us, it gives us, and some kind of advantage or not. let's and here are the rest of the tanks, and there are 170 of them. yes, a leopard one option corresponds approximately to the t-55 tank. that is, there are 60 years of very poor planning. he is heavily in the barrier of his frontal projection in the tower, so they are strengthening the armor. well, the same
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the most 105 mm gun, 40 mm side armor makes its way even from a 30 mm automatic side projection gun, so when we talk about a leopard alone. well , consider that they would not let the t-55 in when we say that leopards are burning in ukraine and, as the president said, very well. we talk about the others and about the third hmm , first of all, when they show it here, which in the pictures is the sixth, well, you have to keep in mind that the sixth leopard. port projection is also there, even taking into account additional systems and dynamic protection. at best , the equivalent of 200-250 mm. whether he breaks through rpgs all these leopards or not, significant advantages can be realized. let 's start with the fact that the tank is an element of the combat system. the combat system turns on aviation times. artillery drone that's all here, if he goes naked, let him be a super perfect tank, he will be destroyed. so.
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so it turns out in such a way that now they are going, basically without air support of limited air support. just no with limited behavior reconnaissance is significantly less than ours and weaker fire support, therefore , uh, they become a victim of both aviation and artillery and drones, our tanks, in turn, operate in more favorable conditions, so, of course, i don’t need to freak out here. uh, i'll be there and watch how we'll bang gradually, so there's no point in panicking everyone. and all the more so, which means now this technique is lost, what then should daniel viktorovich worry about if it is relatively impossible to be afraid of leopards 64 apartments. we also scored. for this situation. need to pay attention. for the next first. they introduced their own strategic reserve, which
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is directly subordinate to the commander-in-chief of the all-union. they led the so-called operational-tactical group maroon, which includes the 46th airmobile brigade, the 82nd airborne assault brigade of the 71st chasseurs. brigade one of the battalions of the 80th airborne storm brigade and some small units of the main brigade 82nd assault on brigade weapons. there are 90 american stryker armored personnel carriers, 14 british challenger 2 tanks, and 24 american howitzers of the m-119 caliber. e 105 mm. what does it say that some one is going to cook. first, yes. first. this suggests that they had to introduce a strategic reserve because of the large ones. but the second , for some reason, they introduced it at this stage. yes , perhaps, if someone is addicted, somehow
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strange, there is a plan, they also introduced it in the zaporozhye direction. yes, where we all understand that this is the main direction. e hit. yes, because they are trying to achieve strategic success. e, reaching. coast. what is an armored striker? yes , they are strikers designed for combat operations. uh, reduced intensity, that is, they were not intended for assault operations , they originally planned to use the 82nd brigade and, in general, otgaron. after, for example, the forty seventh mechanized brigade, which was supposed to be a battering ram of our defense. at the beginning of june. they had to break through the front and operational spaces. just the same, they should were they supposed to pop in through this hole in ours. not only the seventh brigade , but also the 95th brigade, despite the assault zhytomyr and the like, they suffered enormous losses and other units also left this reserve with
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this equipment, and challengers. well , at least you explain it to yourself. why did you have to enter? then through these reserves will be. uh, so maybe they 'll try to build up somewhere in the other direction, uh, the grouping strike, but also try to break through the front in the other direction, when all our attention as we. they understand that we understand that they have introduced a strategic reserve in this direction. you can designate such points where they can do it, well, such a strategic success as they could achieve in the inquiry direction. they are unlikely to succeed somewhere on well, when the front breaks through, yes, they are on the wire in the artyomovsk direction. well, where will they run into our territory anyway. just in the depths, yes, where here, most likely, it will be some kind of despair. step just break through our front, do not achieve any strategic success. this is, for example, e. cut the land corridor to the crimea yes, but simply break through the front and gain a foothold somewhere, maybe
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take some settlement under siege. perhaps this is their artyomovskaya, allegedly to the kharkov region, in order to try to do something from the other side. well, uh, at the moment, in the kharkiv direction , they don’t have enough forces there, considering that we have uh from the other side of the border. also there. uh, the unit is on the defensive. uh, in the kharkov direction they also have forces in the sumy and in chernihiv only for such. come on, we are all the same, since everyone wants to speak out, focusing on the events here, and we will return. ah. come on, we will pause now and then just present a plot for you, where all this military geography is painted in detail with us. this is a black dog, not just a dog, he is a spirit. he lives forever, on the way he comes across in everyone eats.
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the meeting place on ntv, the place where everything becomes clear. we continue, and since all our guests, in one way or another , returned to those dots on the map of the ukrainian contour, where the situation is going. well, let's just say not as good as we would like. let's take a look at our plot now, where all these points are marked, so that the audience understands what the ukrainian army was directly trying to break through our defenses in the area of ​​the village of rabotyna last sunday. this is the zaporozhye region. the forbes edition clarifies for this kiev had to use one of the last large reserve units, the attack was repelled with the help of artillery and aviation, despite heavy losses, the next day the apu. again tried to break through the work. on social networks. even footage appeared with ukrainian by the military, allegedly filmed in the village itself. as a result , the enemy was destroyed as a result of a russian counterattack, and the day before, the russian ministry of defense reported. the military repelled three more attacks by attack aircraft from the strategic reserve of the armed forces. they can afford there, uh,
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advance several tens to several hundred meters in places. uh, we know these trouble spots - this and harvest this and, uh, the district. and the work for this is all that concerns the zaporizhzhya direction of staromayorsky. uh, but there the enemy is advancing on these tens of meters, carrying just another colossal hot spot, the village of urozhaynaya in the donetsk region. after two weeks of hardest fighting with heavy losses. still, they managed to gain a foothold in the north of the settlement, but at what cost vladimir rogov, a member of the main council of the administration of the zaporozhye region, said that in order to advance a couple of hundred meters, the enemy lost two of the four assault groups and elite carrots, despite this, the ukrainian ministry of defense reports success . this week. fighting continued in the populated crop puncture.
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and southeast of the staromayorsky donetsk region, the vsu and milli uspech are consolidated at the achieved lines, but i must say that in the south of our armed forces they encountered very serious enemy resistance, and last week the authorities of the kherson region spoke about the liquidation of the ukrainian landing force, which tried to break through to left coast. dnieper near the village of the cossack camp, according to vladimir salda vsu, a lawyer was involved in this operation. our troops destroyed the enemy boats and back ukrainian the saboteurs will return, but they could not relax early, the enemy does not waste time in vain and is constantly trying to improve. methods of warfare, american journalists recently spoke about a new demining tactic that the ukrainian military uses all night long to launch drones with thermal imagers to detect those heated by the sun alone. ukraine until the last shy saying that these powerful explosions could be the result of the work of some unidentified floating objects, but no longer be shy, the head of the sbu said us that this is just the beginning. so andrei
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yuryevich, we constantly hear these settlements work on the side of harvest, what can all this threaten us with, if you specifically in these settlements ukraine achieves some success? uh-huh. why is it scary or not scary for us? well, let me say a few words about the particular, and then still a couple of words about the general and particular. well, that's the whole front line. it is understandable, in fact they have potential impact points, it really is, harvest work at pyatikhatki is strengthening with ninety-fifth brigade of the kupyansk direction. this is a potential preparation, well, rather, it distracts the landings from the landing on kherson, and these are attempts to strike at the northern direction of bakhmut, with the aim of bypassing and reaching the donetsk direction. eh, respectively, their main task. now it is to cut through a point and go on in the direction of the sea of ​​\u200b\u200bazov. you said that tactics have changed.
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it really has changed, if initially it was a breakthrough tactic, now this tactic is such a dumbass, that is, when you say that someone was taken there, someone was brought in correctly, they organize the carousel of the ninth tenth corps, also the same maroon, and so on. they put them on rotation until they complete them, start them in the next ones, they changed, they completed the next ones and so, in the carousel mode, they hammer at one point. they really changed, uh, the tactics of their combat work. that's it, as far as what you're not after, they're after russia, they're still trying to get russian, so, uh, way. uh, single line, mean, uh, logistical they're making sure that go to the line of shelling of crimea and launch missile strikes on crimean targets, well, and in this way create a negotiating position that is convenient from their point of view. this is about the private, about the general. that's what they started with about reserves and attrition and everything connected with it. it's true, i don't
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understand. based on what military experience, based on what military companies did it arise, er, the assumption that the depletion of the forces of the enemy personnel of equipment, especially which is replenished with the help of nato, can, uh, provide us with some kind of success we had on order more. uh, well, there are fewer chechens there, chechen companies, that really the company was completed first and second after the western media ended, well, about their concept, no. we have some kind of military company that has shown success due to the fact that we ran out of people, uh, people ran out of german germany, but only after they were cut off. uh, the mobilization opportunities are there for all their allies, so why am i saying this to the fact that uh exhaustion by itself. well, this is a renewable thing, including these personnel calculations
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, this is a thing. in fact, such a rather speculative loss in technology is also the west, and it compensates for them. that's why, without moving forward, without building up the ability to e , control, there are territories under the cut-off of the mobilization logistics e, industrial capabilities of the enemy, similar companies. in such companies , they do not win victories, because people and tanks ran out there. i really hope that this one counteroffensive, it will still end with the fact that the initiative will be intercepted, and we will move forward, but for this we also need to increase our resources both in terms of personnel and technical and, such, our technological capabilities. i want to ask yaroslav mikhailovich everything, because. you are not so long ago, from the very, very before the skating rinks, they say what kind of mood there is. you hear radio conversations. you see some prisoners of what our mood is, but tell us because no one except those who were there can tell. well, look set up our combat. there is nowhere to go,
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we need to win this war, and 100%, now a lot of ukrainians have begun to surrender. yes, i mean, well, they're in the mood. their spirit level is dropping, right? that is, they are the same foreigners when they get there. uh, there, yes, that is, they come, so to speak, on a safari or something else, they are told that ukraine is winning, that you will come? it's okay, when they get into the horror that they get into, they get into it. yes, that is, it suits them on all fronts, then, accordingly, they begin to run. that there is, and their spirit falls. as for the need to move forward. i don't agree. just now they were saying yes, that is, our main task is war. here's how to deplete them. and if we move forward, the front line will be extended. if we go forward, that is, like this, which is now the defensive one. she is very literate. we are a relatively small army, we are destroying a large, serious one. this, uh, big serious adversary is not to be underestimated. yes, that is, ukraine is
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seriously some kind of small forces with small resources. we grind them. this is the right one i think there is a tactic. if we go ahead, we've gone for how long. in your opinion, we should still adhere to such tactics with small forces, so sit and grind while they climb and how small the forces are. i, well, we have little strength. here, in the center of the ratio, there are dozens of times more of them, yes, that is, elementary we stood, that in a swollen or under a crime, i was yes there, and there, well, there were actually 10 times more enemy, and we carried in much smaller loss, how long, that is. well, i think this summer is over. counter offensive on their part by attempts. yes, something . and the winter will go back to the stage of such a defensive side with itself. that is, everything will be dug in and will survive the winter to fill up strength. i think the decisive one will be just the next. if you have a few more minutes, and i just wanted yaroslav mikhailovich, here we have footage. that's what you said there. and you can repeat here a little bit, as if what you are now
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telling on camera there. we have sound here. no. what is it? well, let's say it's a dugout. it's a kitchen. this is what we have. call sign goblin, he made such a kitchen. and this i mean, well, people hear a lot, yes, that is, they say, there is no water there, food is bad , or something else, so to show how you can actually live, uh, to convey, and this is not don't tell it yourself it's criminal. uh, crime city. yes, that is, this is the line of defense of the city itself, kremennaya here. people came. well, it's like it also has a key task, but the front end is a little further, that is, it's clear 8 km. here people so let's say the rotation took place. yes, that is, it is such a rear, it turns out. yes indeed rear. it is anyway. uh, well, not a red, but a yellow zone, but it's not safe there, but this group of drgs passed, that is, the task is to protect the city, that is, a sabotage discharge or groups. that's it. you can live in the war, and you yourself
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are at the forefront. how much we spent just so that the audience knew, we are familiar with your biography, so that the most advanced one is directly translated, damn it. yes, for two months, probably, then i went to the auction group. that is uh evacuation early. uh, main i had a task. that is, i was somewhere in the rear. yes, that is, they left. ah. during the shelling, something else is received. well, that is, when the call went out, we left. that is, if you specifically take how long i sat in the trench, then a month and a half or two. but again, you say that it is possible with small forces. we are now on the defensive and ready. so to speak, grind grind grind grind. but i’ll ask such a question, our guys are ready. here, with small forces, you can still sit for a long time. or, after all, there is some way to set up another one, look with our guys. everything is very bad with us, but the institute of political instructors has disappeared. yes, that is, the guys do not really understand what they are doing there. why they are sitting there do not understand the majority, that is, they do not understand what is happening there. in one line of front sections, yes,
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that is, so that there is an understanding, right? well, roughly speaking, here you are looking into the embrasure. yes and now you see 150 m. that's why you know, everything that happens around you, you don't know bypasses you, from left to right or vice versa, but goes into line, well, alignment of the front line or something else the guys do not understand. this is a very big problem, that is, to talk about, er, well, that is, their opinion, yes, that is, how they see it. they don't see at all. it seems to me that this is not quite as if the task is to water the hand. if we talk about the political instructor, this is probably the real explanation. what are we sitting? wow andrey yulchik, it’s just that in your words it turns out, some kind of conflict, because you say that it’s right, that here we are sitting with small forces, destroying superior enemy forces, and andrey yurievich too. in general , it is quite logical to say that without an offensive there will still be no victory. if the guys, as you say, who are sitting in the trenches do not understand. this, of course, is really not very good. very problematic. i don't understand
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why they actually stopped the mobilization? why are there so many 500,000 lucky ones? yes, they must remain until the end to go to the birch, then prepare the next batch. submit these apartments. these then are not discussed. this means that there is no talk of any serious offensive yet. here we can only guess. let's say they used to say that more than 200,000 contract soldiers were recruited. yes, yes it was more than 86 seconds. yes, this is more than expected. let's just get on with it now. in the case of a plot, we will show the settlements that our armed forces occupy and liberate, because we do not just sit and grind there. uh, the enemy units are advancing too.
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woo-hoo, now you have arrived, as if the movement will trample on now. criminal investigation department, city of sochi it looks like they were shooting. snot
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junior and transfer money at any time this is the meeting place on ntv, the place where everything becomes clear and we continue to stop. actually, on the uh remarks of our guests , some of them that we are sitting here, we are, as it were, not moving forward. i mean the front line. so, this is how much it really corresponds to the truth, because, well, after all, some information comes that is different. ah, let's move forward. here i now want konstantin valentinovich to explain all this to us somehow, after having looked at the following material.
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fierce battles are going on in kuplensky direction, according to analysts at the american institute for the study of war, our army has advanced in the area of ​​​​orlyanka and nikolaevka, and the successes of the russian armed forces are recognized even in kiev and are urgently transferring reserves to this sector of the front. the ukrainian military is hastily erecting defenses on the outskirts of the purchased area itself. guys, direct clear orders to build a layered defense tightened our firing positions provided certain guidelines transferred reserves over the past few months unsuccessfully trying to take in the encirclement, artemovsk, our army is squeezing the enemy out of the village of klecheika berkhovka, which is also an important point. in this sector of the front, it is under the control of our military , and the highlands are also trying to break through the defenses in the area of ​​\u200b\u200bandreevka and kurdyumovka. and although the offensive of the ukrainian military on this
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sector of the front. has stalled in kiev assure the situation is under control. you know that along the south flan. gradually, but surely, ours is moving forward in battles with very large obstacles from the enemy, there bombing and air mortar shelling, therefore it is very difficult, but in such conditions ours are advancing and in the svatovsko-kremensky sector the hills are trying to be active along the line of contact and break through the front line. our ministry of defense stated that in the last 24 hours alone , the russian military repelled five. attacks on the loss of the enemy amounted to more than 50 people. so well, here is konstantinovich then something that can be somehow explained and it just happens. here, well, yes, an amateurish look, what is there, if we from zaporozhye consider a skirt, donetsk the people's republic of this means, here we have the east of the front. yes and there, than on above. e, to the north, yes, kharkov region. there, then, the picture is a little more favorable for us. well, or is it some kind of distracting
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maneuver of the nuances of small particulars. let's take the 82nd air assault brigade, 2,000 men. this is the regiment. so, uh, technical equipment, that means these same strikers, armored personnel carriers, well, consider our t-80 armored personnel carrier of the eighties armored personnel carrier-80. here are uh tanks 14 this is a company of the whole tank gun gate 119 105 mm main caliber 152, so you are now dragging me down, why will i finish, because then, here, i hear you, when this company is here, how would there be nothing then the question arises of what we are then sitting and we can't with this company. come on, i'll finish. let's talk about the fact that these brigade well, why is she walking on zaporizhzhya, because in zaporozhye they wanted at least some result, at least some
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for them. yes, there, that there you can still count on something. yeah, they generally burn, there everything is empty now about the exhaustion of forces. so there is exhaustion of forces, uh, strategic, when it comes to lack of exhaustion there, so to speak, of the country's potential. is there an operating room? right now, our task is being solved the task of exhausting and knocking out the personnel and military equipment of the strike force of the apu. well , as near kursk all the time it was a different matter that here they are for the time that for the distance they traveled near kursk manstein, not manstein. and this is the very thing in the north, which the module was advancing there, he passed in 3 days. here i lost, i rolled back the same time. here manstein walked 40 km. lost most of the equipment, our subsequent offensive operations were more successful in the south than in the north. now we are talking
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about exhausting precisely the operational grouping of forces. they put them into action. now about the small number of our forces. so, e. the total number of our group. here, if you take it into account. this means that the volunteers of the initial composition mobilized in this way are quite worthy in order to have a composition that matches two fronts of the times of the great patriotic war and conduct a normal large-scale offensive operation with a breakthrough of the defense as well as in the classics. here, then now at this stage, of course, here is the mini defense, as always it is done. this is a classic, operational art shock grouping of forces strike they do not join our battle. yes, they are preparing for an offensive solution with this somewhere not put neatly into action. well , that is, it's not yet time for well, of course. what happens at kupinsk then this is what kupinskaya? this is called improving the operational situation. ah, it means practice.
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uh, this so-called forefield, with reaching the lines, we use the favorable moment, and how you build up and then in a number of cases the offensive has a very good result, because when the day before yesterday the offensive was at a pace of all kilometers a day. this is a very good result. this is a very good result. this is the tempo of the offensive, corresponding to all the principles of modern operational art. this is where we are kept. well, those however, it's slow. this pressure is gentle. here, but i emphasize again, as i always said before. er, well, the nature of the armed struggle. a special military operation has a very distant relationship to military art. this is almost a refined policy. it's not because it's bad, because uh, well, the principle is simple, which means that if the frog is thrown immediately, it
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will jump out. now, if we say, we could still gouge you by the month of may, you take yours, crimea and i mean, i say all the time, this very , uh, so to speak, to lead to the kiev victory parade well, how would they react to this for this one, where is the guarantee that he did not go for the use of nuclear weapons. now, by such a smooth tightening , we are slowly leading to the fact that we will solve this problem. well, naturally. at this price, there are still a lot of political nuances. i also want to make an important point. i always say this in our country there is a fifth column. this is the fifth column. this is not 10 people with posters there or a villain sitting there, writing some easter there. this is a force that was formed in the khrushchev era, penetrating all of our society and tough actions in these conditions can bring spins, please, konstantin petrovich , together with you, then the ruler of this topic for a separate program well yes, we must maneuver
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in such a way that it doesn’t explode here, it doesn’t explode here, yes and solve this problem. this is a very subtle game, yaroslav nikolaevich, you are reacting to the explanation that we must save lives, and okay, here i am about the direction of kupyanskaya, artyomovsk. yes, that is, they are close to me. i'm under crime was artyomovsky, i can evaluate in terms of the quality of the war. hey, how's the fighter? yes, that is, why are we allowed to request? i think it’s the same area there, and ours doesn’t take action, but bribe, but they do it, well, under kupyansk it’s easier relatively, that is, there were forests working there. uh, less damaging, so to speak. yes, there is where to hide, move away, and therefore there is a big result and you need to move, firstly, it delays. just recently, i received a message that turnout has become wonderful. fine quietly calmly, because part of, uh, the reserves were transferred to kupyansk, once again, it
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’s difficult for artyomovsky to fight there, the fields, that is, there are just wooded areas. field does not see. there, for 2 km, the bird rises up, and you cannot pass. here are three people , everything is already standing, so it will be covered. and kupyanskoye, the kremlin direction. it’s easier there, there are forests, everything is closed, so we get results there. but here we don't want to do that. for what? that is, we need to grind. let them come. let them expend energy. that is, where we can advance with fewer losses. we're advancing there, we can't. well, we came to this again. let's take a short pause and summarize today's conversation in a couple of minutes. hallelujah xanim with me you will forget, everything is experienced. you will go crazy with happiness very upset. so whether to use the brain anything can happen.
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restaurants with premium taxis and access to business lounges didn't expect to see you again. now i have a world payment system card. let's try to give you all the time to speak and answer the question that we have formulated in this way, how do you think. military special operations are finally moving into the phase of such a protracted military conflict. or, in your opinion, perhaps something is some kind of
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drastic change that will accelerate development events. so let's start with you yaroslav mikhailovich protracted. e into a protracted war. and i think it will last at least 10 years. c'mon, yeah pretty progression. everything will pass the phase now next year, in my opinion, eh. and it goes into a kind of passive conflict, yes, that is, the active phase will end and in a couple of years the active phase will repeat itself. that is, this is the first round in which we are participating. i understood you so, yes, well, when forecasting the term, you should not focus on the number of apu. and in general , the presence of suction, that is, it will end all the poles, the baltic states, the romanians, and the like will begin, so this opinion was also voiced for a long time today vladimir valeryevich well, the forecasts of the case. eh, it's very good that you call it some kind of calendar. yes, in my opinion, everything is just beginning. so konstantin valentinovich from a military-strategic
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point of view, this outcome is in no way determined. this means that this is pure politics, therefore the outcome of the special military operation will be decisively determined by the election year in 2424. you are hinting at the american elections, both ours and ours. so, when covid began, everyone was waiting, that everything would be decided in two weeks, we also remember, you know , the hope for such a short clip thinking trump is on a war in secret, something like this will happen, everything will be resolved right away. this slightly infantile approach will end when it is achieved, its goals in order to formulate these goals, that is , we must understand the image of victory. what is
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this reference point? after which the special operation will be implemented, but even in the form of those rather tasks that are now declared, and not goals uh, today's environment today's resources are involved and environment. including on the line near the political processes does not mean that we are right at the stage of resolution, understood when they talk about a protracted conflict without moving the front line. i always remember the first world war, and for me these are bad memories, because everything didn’t work out very well for us there. but i hope that all your conclusions have been drawn and taken into account, even if we do enter a protracted phase. we won't collide with the same problems. no, well, of course, on the one hand, i want everything to be faster ; on the other hand, we need to somehow prepare everything, not always slowly. it's bad to be so short. here about just. the pace of bringing the idea to life you know
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