today, in our system program 32 years ago , the august coup of the gkchp was defeated in moscow and democracy came to the country. why the russians suddenly got bored with everything soviet where he lived according to the law is inexplicable, but the fact of stalin in russia is loved more and more. where does this desire for obedience come from among the people? why do people need old people? why did you miss justice and debriefing, why did sweden refuse to share its fighter jets with ukraine? whether the ukrainian contrast will be able to take off on nato wings, now messengers. yes. we can watch right now. hello, this is the meeting place on ntv, the place where everything becomes clear and andrey norkin my colleague ivan trushkin. we

are working live. here we presented the announcement of our today's program, but you probably guess that we will start anyway messages in the next enemy drones shot down at night. the ministry of defense of our country reported that six such aircraft were destroyed that night. so, according to our military department. two by two drones were destroyed on the territory of moscow and the bryansk regions, two more on the black sea 40 km. no one was hurt in northwestern crimea. in all these cases, the moscow region. one of the drones was shot down near krasnogorsk, another near the clock , moscow mayor sergei sobyanin announced this in krasnogorsk . in general , it must be said that the locals themselves almost broke the remains of aircraft on their own. street. let's hear how eyewitnesses

describe these events. i turned on the tv. i hear a moped. guys, young people ride a moped, without a license, without anything, just without light, but it turned out it was not a moped immediately explosion. and this one, in connection with the attack and drones, the moscow airport - this is domodedovo sheremetyevo and vnukovo introduced temporary restrictions, both for departure and arrival flights. well, as far as we know , the schedule has not suffered much. a little more than ten flights were delayed in one way or another. now all three airports are operating in their usual mode, in addition, ukraine tried to attack in the black sea. according to our ministry of defense , a reconnaissance boat was found near our gas production platform. vsu. it is known that

it was discovered from the air with su-30 cm fighters. actually, this fighter. uh, boat, ukrainian and destroyed. well, vsu, in the meantime, they are trying to report at least, and at least some of their successes. the so-called counter-offensive, which has been going on for almost 3 months, and here they published this video, which was allegedly filmed in the locality of work for the locality of work for many weeks there have been quite bloody battles. the footage - this video is called the evacuation of the elderly from the village and they are taken away to the bradley bmp in the frame, he was seen by the ukrainian general staff, it is presented as an advance in the zaporozhye direction at the same time, and the capture of the settlement is discussed until the ukrainian general staff. again, he claims that the fighting there continues. here are the russian ministry of defense comments, so far our military correspondents report that the fighting go in the center of the village, and vsu managed to gain a foothold on the northern outskirts of the village. well, she kharkiv direction continues quite successful, but slow progress. and our troops. actually, this

causes, i would say, panic in the ranks of the enemy. here are the shots that the ria novosti agency distributed on them at the moment of the execution of a ukrainian soldier by his chief at the moment when this soldier panicked because of the russian offensive, the video was recorded on the phone of another serviceman of the armed forces, you can see how the mobilized begins to panic before the advancing russian forces and the coming battle. after that, the squad leader shoots at the subordinate footage taken on the phone. employee uso. later they were transferred to the russian news agency. well, one more news, which actually shows well how one should treat all these reports about ukrainian successes, which they themselves distribute the swiss edition of lettens. it was reported that kiev banned all foreign journalists without exception from being on the front line, correspondent. he can go there only in one case, if he receives personal written permission from the commander-in-chief all pledged. moreover, litems

writes that it was done. all in one day. this directive came into effect without any prior notification of confirmations and so on. well, they think that such restrictions. due to the fact that foreign journalists should not show and talk about large ukrainian losses at the front, well, with the situation on the fronts, andrei ivanovich, probably, everything, therefore, we can declare at the beginning of the topic and return. well, i i also think that there are attempts to prevent foreign journalists from seeing episodes like this one, which i'm about a month ago. uh, i watched there by the way, and the quality was better. uh, there's a ukrainian commander. he blew up his own subordinates with a grenade, who were sitting there, well, in some kind of dugout there, refusing to speak alone. there you could hear everything very well , he was gahly, there such and such, just such grenades. so we'll really get back to today's military hmm questions in the second part of our program. we yesterday to you they promised

to tell a little more about ukraine's attempts to get planes at 16. well, let's talk about it. we will try to understand, in general, what can change on the front line if ukraine receives these aircraft. well, or rather, probably, it is necessary to say not if but when it most likely will happen, well , let's start our big conversation today with a different topic today, august 22, our country celebrates national flag day. today i was driving to work, i don't know if you saw it or not. i drove past vdnkh past the main entrance, a huge number of people, but i don't know there are hundreds, maybe even thousands. i didn't see everyone. here they are back and forth, as if they were crossing the road and some left the exhibition area and others. so, uh, they were heading there and all in state flags. well, really shoulders. there, probably, there were some events today at vdnkh. i noticed. yesterday there were already gravity-flowing glasses, but in the area of ​​the colored garden ring boulevard, here on the sides it is decorated with flags right to the end, and this, of course, produces. well, i didn’t even immediately

figure out the flag of this in general state holiday. although the day is not a day off 32 years ago, as it was said in our announcement, this tricolor , which we are all used to now, was recognized. the state flag of the russian federation then was the decision of the supreme commander of the rsfsr. and probably, that's exactly this decision. now, especially no one hmm does not cause any hostility with the deadly one, it was a little bit, otherwise, like you. remember, then the music of the soviet anthem returned; the other was the text, but somehow it was accepted by everyone, but very well. well, about the flag. well, sort of like accustomed, in general, if we talk about the events of august of the ninety-first year, that trend has already formed every year , there are more and more citizens in our country who directly have a negative attitude towards the events in august of the ninety-first, but to that soviet past, which seems to , as the end came 32 years ago, is positive. let's see our material

on august 22, 1991. for the first time, the tricolor was officially loaded on the building of the moscow government by a crowd of thousands. the capital with a huge white-blue-red banner, now this square was decided by the participants of the rally to be called the free russia square, the tricolor red-blue-white russian flag was raised above it, then the events of august 1991 were perceived by many as the victory of democracy by the navigating soviet system, it seemed that the people, having taken to the streets , prevented an attempt by the security forces of the ministry of defense of the ministry of internal affairs and the kgb to restore their order in the country, having embarked on the path of deep reforms and having gone a considerable distance in this direction. the soviet union is now facing a deep crisis. the further development of which may

call into question. as the very course of reforms, and lead to serious cataclysms in international life. moscow met the action of the pochists with thousands of protests, so on august 19, the participants of the gkchp brought troops into the capital, the central telegraph television center and the white house, where the president of the rsfsr boris yeltsin was then surrounded by armored personnel carriers, but suddenly the military began to go over to the side of the protesters a simple russian soldier, i brought out yesterday 10 armored personnel carriers and as i drove through the streets and squares of the city and brought up the rear of the column of armored personnel carriers with the russian flag, then people on the streets were crying, because they saw that the army and the people were united. i never thought that i was a simple person who would stand with the president of russia, whom you elected in the country then really blew. the wind of change, a huge

number of people sincerely rejoiced at the destruction of the old system, they believe that a bright future will come, freedom will be forgotten, the deficit will disappear, controlling everything and everyone in the party apparatus will become available free travel abroad. and i don't care who or it was better. and now you feel bad, i feel good. and what is wrong with you, you are so beautifully dressed , an elegant young man, if you don’t count that you bought this jacket for 1,500, and pants for 700 rubles. that's all right. azatovich 500 and bought for 700, so earn a lot i'm generally a military man, despite the fact that life has become better, life has become more fun , nostalgia for everything soviet among the russians only intensifies every year, judging by new polls. vciom, almost half of the participants in the study admitted that they would like the restoration of the country of the soviets most of the surveyed phrases. the soviet union is associated with stability, carefree childhood and good times. at the same time, the modification of goods and

cards recalled 4% expressed the same amount, and earlier, from childhood , they inspired repressions from the cradle. oh, how it is love for the motherland, love for the state, honest work. not all, of course, went this way, i see. well, the majority. this is what we are holding on to right now. guys, please return to us this sign with the results of the survey in general, i must tell you that if there was something this was asked, i, too, probably would hardly have begun to remember. i’m generally confused about the deficit and about cards from the card, but because it seems to me that it was already somehow there a little later after the collapse of the soviet union. we even explained such an episode to me somehow here, but it seems to me that it's just the way memory is arranged, and we remember better and remember more easily with a human. well, something good to have in life. but this is all that is heavy bad, but it

goes somewhere, yes, stanislavl. good that you raised your hand. we have thought. that's why we want to start with you, because you are here the youngest of our guests, but certainly the soviet era must be remembered, so, don't you think that, do you agree that a change in attitudes to this soviet past, then there is that every year there are more and more positive assessments due to the fact that more and more young people answer the questions. that is, those people who in the soviet union do not remember anything at all. they don't know anything, but i would say that here reverse situation. but because you look at the current demographic dynamics, and there are fewer young people, because the birth rate is lower, and there are more elderly people, because life expectancy. now it is increasing, so the trend is such that there are more people who respond. e about how good it was in their youth, and in principle, i even remember,

because anyway the soviet union is getting smaller. a no more. no, look, but in any case, on all these issues, you should always give demographics. yes, because by age there is a significant difference in how they relate to and to the soviet professor, someone comes up with something, someone thinks something up, someone remembers his youth, and so on. fine. why then do you explain? you see this growth of such nostalgia, the intensification of soviet nostalgia because there are more elderly people in society as a whole. yes, not true, true look at the dynamics graphically dynamics. demographic - these are very simple numbers. only necessary in society. generally. you do not hear my watermelon, the sacred interpretation is free. so in all cohorts. here you can always look at the data of sociological studies in all age cohorts,

including those that our dear presenter spoke about. nostalgia for the soviet union is growing sharply. well, mainly in the elderly. well, more like, well, facts. well , please, well, i'm just saying the names of the facts, because well, they did not agree. yes , there are many people who remember about, but the most this is the main main most active cohorts, where it would seem that there should be, and freedom to travel and so on is growing there , and memories are again your explanation, why , because these are the young people who are now used to living in these conditions for a second, yes, when you can buy

something for yourself there, and previously inaccessible. can you go somewhere? well now, yes, of course, there may be some difficulties there , some, but nevertheless, and what kind of memories can young people have? wait, it's not about memories. yes, even growing. wait. now let uh, the most right here, wait. you can agree with me, they are used to all this and for them the soviet past begins to be such and such. uh, yes, where it was, they just don’t understand that it wasn’t, where everything that they have now was. well, and some other goodies there. no other materials. let me finish, and another motivation is the first over the years that the attitude towards the value of patriotism has changed dramatically. today, 90% of russian citizens consider themselves patriots. and this is a supervalue, the second. know-

significantly increased the importance of social justice, and there are, and perhaps mythologemes, but steady, that the soviet union is associated with a period of social justice. well, in general, for the whole vision of social reality. this has been checked absolutely many times over and already as soon as it was not shaken, therefore, and and very much and , accordingly, the vision comes out. uh, i'm sorry , the august events are changing, because they expected that the kingdom of justice would come, and many remember the nineties, already the most active. and here you are i repeatedly recalled that this did not remember the kingdom for me at all. he has an idea about this, just according to the stories there are no nineties. i

remember ivan talking about his parents. and how he translated it, and it was very meaningful to me, so these are, uh, not deceived expectations - two super values, you understand? yes it is clear. yes, please don't score, yes. i want a nail in the coffin of my good attitude to the younger generation towards the youth, which i treat you so simply, if you constantly behave like this , i just generally want to agree, not you i'll catch someone in the corridor right now. i'll fucking die. fuck so wait, please, didn't kill anyone. i want mikhailovich, i understand it is normal for people who remember mikhailovich for people who remember all this of your age, a little younger, a little older.

and here is why the approval of the soviet era as a whole is growing among people younger than me, who , perhaps, caught something when they were like that, and they didn’t really understand what was happening there, from which it suddenly changes, because people are now here we are his age they live actively work, give birth to children. they have a family, they develop there. god forbid it's good for them that it makes them look back with snow in that era in which they were not and believe that it was better there. here you know me. i will say one word, just here are the requests, and in any opinion polls, it is important how the question is posed. here let me. eh, if i reformulate this question, we would like the restoration of the ussr e into a question. would you like to restore the leading role of the cpsu in our country and you will see a completely different figure, but in reality the ussr this is the leading role of the cpsu in our country after 1985. yes, including, if there were no leadership roles, perestroika would not have been so much trophic, this is an absolute

dogma, so as for the memories of people, in fact, if we are talking about the young, then they have no memories. here what is called watch uh, film, uh, 17 moments of spring? yes, muller's phrase that our ideas need to be somehow fed there, yes, well, paraphrasing in a socialist way. and i must say that the left feeds this idea very strongly. see which country. she went out over the past 30 years. well, probably several hundred books about how you are magnificent stalin about how red the soviet union is, we see the reaction of soviet chauvinism. that's how i call it a phrase. this is such revanchism, to a certain extent, revenge, to which society reacts, because propaganda is going on, plus a kind of mythologeme is being created that requires different patriotisms. we need different patriotism for the war. including, what is called such a picture, as if we still have,

the leading role of the cpsu is that a huge number of people perceive the soviet union somehow without the cpsu, just as in fact the problem of modern russia is that there were democrats. yes, that's why they treat 90 badly? yes, because the democrats were disgusting, not because the tricolor was introduced in our country, not because. russia has become an independent sovereign state, but because the democrats themselves, who were in charge, build them it was impossible to love. here. let's talk a little about sociology personalities , emotions also change. if you look at personal, then here is stalin, the already mentioned mikhail borisovich, he is now one of the most respected, if not adored by the people, leaders, how did it happen and how this attitude not only changed towards him. no now now now the results of fresh questions have shown that

our citizens are the best rulers of russia. now they consider peter i , catherine ii and joseph stalin, more than half of the respondents voted for the leader of the peoples. but a negative assessment of his rule is given only by a fifth of the survey participants, and the next in popularity. after stalin comes another general secretary. leonid brezhnev worst of all, our fellow citizens treat the reformers. boris yeltsin and mikhail gorbachev. they also head the list of rulers. hero i'm in the country about the swing, these so-called democracies, which we didn't really need, probably this year on the occasion of the seventieth anniversary of his death. stalin , a lot of research has been published on how our people now relate to the leader of the peoples, sociologists record a trend. almost half of the survey participants relate to the leader. respectfully every fifth generalissimo handsome and only 8%, they say that they have a negative attitude towards stalin and more than half agree with the judgment that stalin was a great leader of steel stalin but

one person gathered so many people raised an army to rethink the personality, the leader of the peoples, and the authorities decided. so the role of joseph stalin in the new unified textbook of the history of russia will be presented more objectively , they promised the day before in the russian military-historical society, they say it's time to abandon the western interpretation of the criminal stalinist regime, if funded textbooks. and in the nineties, the soros foundation and others. it was a tyrant take away, uh, a mediocre commander who filled up the enemy with corpses. in general, uh , the criminality of the stalinist regime, but in our unified textbook, of course, the role of stalin on a is set out, uh, exactly in the proper way. that is, this is objectively alexander vladimirovich if i remember our previous programs correctly, when you came to us they pulled out stalin then they assessed it more positively than negatively, but i immediately propose not about the role. there is no stalin now about the role of steel. we

are not talking at all now, because otherwise the discussion will go only to this and this is all 2 hours about only one person. we are trying to understand why the attitude has changed. here is an example , why in my childhood, except for the word tyrant , there was no prefix before the word steel, as it now seems indecent to say, tyrant. well, in general, please understand? i did not say that i evaluate it positively. negative is a historical figure and he was exactly a child of the era, why does it grow? uh, a positive attitude, it is perfect, it was understandable after the reforms to the stream, when so many drivers and not only drivers put a portrait of stalin on their car. it was this in general, as it is a return to a certain image, a typical image of a state mythologized in many respects again. here is the role of boris nikolaevich, so you can say a lot of negative things about him, but i'm sorry, this is a person who allowed russia

during the collapse of the great soviet union , which did not come to a systemic crisis. no element of the system was the very structure of the state gone into a crisis of the deepest it was he was inevitable. yes, leonid ilyich brezhnev with all his good attitude. i would not have solved this problem, especially since i could not solve it, please, why then is this here? well, it's just a psychological story . this is nostalgia for the times when we were all younger, healthier, faster and jokes , you know, in every stratum of society, your people are older - this is youth for the young - this is some kind of mythologized, strong. russian federation here it is a mythologized picture is that we passed it on to younger people what was in the nineties. here, i completely agree with my colleague, what is democracy? maybe this is correct, but our russian democrats were terrible. it was not a democracy completely real subjugation

thought, because he speaks correctly here can not crown the building. you understand, here we are now talking to you. about why stalin yes , society just becomes more infantile in any infantile society, the request goes to a figure who can make a decision and then to insist on the implementation of this decision, and it will be tira so what? no need to talk about our country. you know who the greatest frenchman napoleon is the man who covered the whole of france with blood. and in germany, by the way , hitler lost, so there is a second fries. i was magnificent in tashkent, the city is tolerant, excellent relations. to the russians. what monument stands in the center of tashkent timur and the world timur who covered everything that was there with blood? what is the largest monument in mongolia? genghis khan is golden in all

they will say, this is the same as it is democratic england, which is there and the cradle of parliamentarism. what is the most popular figure in england, when you go to the museums there, is the full moon henry the eighth, who blew up the monasteries there, cut the monks and executed them. well, he's only eight people there. why requests goes to a strong personality who can make a decision why is society an infantile society? yes, and why puts forward a figure in the nineties, society was less infantine, there it was necessary to stupidly do something so as not to die, and now society has become infantile, it says, that's who the great man who will decide for me, after all, he will be greater than me i can't decide. i am infantile. oh well, in the big sense of the word, so the request for this figure is not only in our time. it is from time to time in all countries

there are constant requests for this one, uh, then you scare me a little with a certain prospect. i was listening to you just now, trying to remember verbatim, i don’t remember the formula, but for some of the arab sheikhs, in my opinion, she attributed to, and the essence of such hard times create strong people, strong people. e. create good times and good times. uh, so weak people are born, weak people make hard times, hard times make strong people. that is, this is the personality of history repeating itself. yes, well, i want more, we can sort out a little bit from this here according to the survey. that's the only thing that made me really happy. what is it that the population voted that the two worst rulers in our history are hunchbacked by the communist party of the soviet union, let's say. uh, if nikita sergeevich wait, well,

maybe the same khrushchev is already there and i don’t remember someone. well, it scares me a little . now, if this is all right, this is cyclical, which means that after some time , some kind of again is waiting for us. yes, and it is possible that temporarily yeltsin will be called in a completely different way, as it is now. those times are even closer than it seems, well, let's see if we live, it showed the trinity of the most popular authorities, what distinguishes them, and the strengthening of the imperial beginning and the expansion of the territory. mm. actually saying, here is the subconscious of a russian person. passion for expanding territory she lies. here, moreover, notice the expansion of the territory with all three mainly backwards. because the expansion of the territory in the east to the south, it is not so popular. now

i really want to know why the youth is so oriented, and everything, in fact, is very simply told by your obedient servant. he grew up to 16-17 years old, surrounded by people who were born and received, as it were, maturity before the revolution. these people left in the mid-seventies, when i finished school, my mother to tears, and, perhaps, nicholas ii, and only after becoming a historian and 3 years, having read a course of lectures, but russian history. i understand. excuse me for expressing the same crap was imperial russia i was brought up in an absolute cult, both imperial russia and the white movement alexander nikolaevich i suspect that your attitude to the soviet e-e system is even less complimentary. yes, it’s just

very hard for you , you have had a difficult system to form in the soviet union all your life, if you read historical literature, and academics, i don't know the professors of those times. listen, it is difficult to form it with any other attitude towards imperial russia and the royal family. i doubt that books were published on how to do it, i just read both foreign and pre-revolutionary historians. so what? here are the youth you said according to the stories. here we are, that the poet, there you have to pay 1.5 million for education for an academic year . some grandmother tells them that in soviet times education was free. a who needs to be paid from me all the time, and at moscow state university they recently told me nonsense, well, i don’t know nonsense, in short. i know the price, but i would n't pay for such an education. so

my colleague's grandmother tells me that in the ranking of the russian academy of national economy of the civil service there are 800,000. but this is like a paid officer. i'm in general, 100.000 no matter how much i have here, uh, i have a friend of some financial academy . i don't remember how much he said. here it is, the point is not that the point is that they are told that education was free. oh how fine. here for everything, too, it was not necessary to pay for free, it was not paid. as a result, by the way, yes , today we live absolutely without the communist soviet union, what happened last. yes, there are 2 years, relatively speaking, this is everything returned us to the reality of the mental soviet union only without the communist documents

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the meeting point on ntv, the place where everything becomes clear and we continue this part. let's start with the tragedy that took place in moscow, where people died who went on a tour of e, dungeons in the neglinka area, this tour was called secrets of the moscow dungeon and people went to see these secrets during a downpour, which actually became fatal for them this morning from the moscow river they got the body of the last eighth participant in the deadly excursion. this man is his personality. now set according to preliminary data. this may be a 31-year-old guide, who actually led the group to the dungeon earlier in the area of ​​​​the moskvoretskaya embankment of the large ustinsky bridge. the bodies of a married couple from st. petersburg, a 15-year-old schoolgirl, as well as the head of the pr service of the vanit company, were found. who went on an excursion with his daughter and nephew. all of them were wearing

hazmat suits. and warm clothes, as in the collector of the river it is non-clay all year round, the temperature is approximately the same, about 12 °. what they died from is a phenomenon that they are actually victims of, of which they turned out to be called a collector wave. we can look at it. yes, if you look into the collector, you can see how strong, fast water flows, actually flows. it's just like after a downpour, a collector war - it's kind of like that. well, a tsunami, or something, only in a closed space, the incoming flow of water picks up speed and becomes so strong that any person. he is able to knock down the chances of salvation in such a situation , there is practically no, in this regard, with the slightest likelihood of rain, visiting the collectors is absolutely prohibited even for specialists, but for amateurs, in principle, it is legal. the biggest danger, of course, is if you 're in the gutter network . uh, when

you can really wash off with water, pick up and carry away, and since the entire drainage network works on the principle of self-flow. so roughly speaking, these are communicating vessels into which water is drawn, and tok e surfaces from the territory of the city and instantly fills these vessels very quickly in a matter of minutes. well, the mesh telegram channel published the last message of the guide - this is from the ill-fated excursion. he wrote that it started to rain and asked the organizers. is it possible to rise to the surface in the area of ​​trubnaya street after this message, he stopped communicating in addition. it turned out that these excursions he introduced as a hobby. it's just a part-time job, saturday sunday. yes, i'm working. well, yes, sometimes i didn't want to have to go on two excursions 2 hours and in the evening. he said that this one, well, goes for 2 hours. he uh in the evening say two people only here and

on sunday it already turns out. i don't talk to him. then it’s uh, and he said on saturday, at least he says, there’s no rain in moscow collectors need to visit only special clothes with special equipment, and for the passage you must first go through a briefing, where they will explain how it works in case of emergency, well, get a special pass, as for the search for the perpetrators, here, as the kommersant newspaper reports, citing its sources in law enforcement agencies. the suspects were arrested today. this tragedy , according to a businessman in the case of the death of people in the sewers. there are now two detainees. this is a tour organizer. nikita dubas and the director of the company who distributed tickets for the tour, his name is alexander kim

; haven't been able to stop. he escaped from russia , presumably to the united arab emirates , as soon as news began to come in about the disappearance of people in the sewer, according to investigators , the organizers of underground tours were well aware of the risks of these excursions, especially during rain, however, diggers. the so-called instructors of the company have not canceled the illegal peace, in addition to this, underground tours were not coordinated with the city services of moscow, although punishment up to criminal liability is provided for this. well, now the detained organizer shines up to 10 years. deprivation of liberty is terrible, of course. andrei ivanovich history. and let's get back to our topic, we don't have much time left, and for discussion we stopped at the statement of alexander nikolayevich, from his point of view , for the last few years we have been living, as it were, in an atmosphere of this without communist soviet union yes, we correctly recall

the results of a survey from e. the numbers of the three most popular leaders of the country among our fellow citizens are representatives. that's exactly the communist regime. uh, there was only one person, stalin. yes, he takes third place, as the person of stalin really gets more and more attention. i cannot agree with mikhail borisovich, what is going on there? some kind? only the promotion of such a positive, or something, image is there, but there is exactly the same and, uh, growth, as it were, of those who would not want, but, relatively speaking, the old language there revival of the cult of personality. give us the following, please. a unique historical event attracted attention last week, the city of velikie luki, pskov region, there, in a solemn atmosphere in front of the building of one of the factories, a monument to generalissimo joseph stalin was opened and then a priest of the velikie luki diocese illuminated the eight-meter statue of the leader, the public was very surprised and asked for clarification from the russian orthodox church there assured that

everything happened without the knowledge of the central apparatus of the church. about the action of the priest. he will check himself, he does not see anything shameful in the coverage of the monument and suggested thinking logically that the church suffered. these years of reign are eons, but thanks to this, we now have a lot of new russian martyrs and confessors, who we are now praying and who are also helping us in the rebirth of our motherland in yekaterinburg , they are arguing heatedly about the bas-relief of stalin on the district house of officers, its facade was dismantled. 956, and returned in 2021 despite the protests of social activists and even the governor of the sverdlovsk region, evgeny kuyvashev. the press service of the central military district was told that the bas-relief was returned in order to restore the historical appearance of the building, another scandal with the bas-relief. stalin flared up in volgograd because of the decision of the leadership. gosmeta university return it to the facade of the building. the bas-relief of the university was removed under khrushchev in

the midst of the debunking of stalin's personality cult . we are talking about the restoration of the historical building of an architectural monument in order to give it its original appearance. stalin's bas-relief is part of the artistic design of the architects as well as the steel inscription on the open books capital and columns. here in the nizhny novgorod region this summer they began to build, already a whole stalin center on three floors of the museum, local communists plan to place exhibits related to different periods of the life of the soviet leader, the project budget was estimated at a little bit 120 million rubles. the regional branch of the communist party believes that the construction of the stalin center will help the patriotic education of young people and the fight against distortion and rewriting of history in crystallina, the forty- ninth year of the soviet union created a nuclear weapon, thanks to which so far. russia remains, uh, the un security council

is the result, just the activities of stalin , the result of the activities of the soviet government of the soviet people. so, come on, mikhail borisovich here. uh, it was a guess. or rather, even such an axiom of konstantin alexandrovich that we are becoming more and more infantile, and now there is a request for such an order and life, this is an idea, it seems to me that there is some kind of certain infantilism and forgetfulness here. i would also add, yes, due to the fact that historical education in our soviet. i 'll emphasize a very bad time . practically none at all. that's why these polls give these names? but because those who just finished high school received. here is about these people, only information. she is absolutely mythologized. but when they are asked, what do you know about russian history, they pop up. they saw brezhnev they remember stalin they remember, lenin remembers

peter the great catherine ii although, if we speak like a historian, then to put it mildly , the first ten should be completely different absolutely. well, this is god, and as for stalin , it seems to me that the problem is here, uh, as plato said, what are the correct forms of power? yes, there is a monarchy, an aristocracy, a democracy. there, she called them differently and together with aristotle. and there are perversions. and so, when you are hyper-hypertrophied in a country introducing freedom, then you must know that the next desires of society will be tyranny but sociology, because people get tired of this hypertrophied freedom and want someone to come who, on the contrary, i would tighten the screws, as soon as the one who tightens the screws comes,

everyone immediately says, listen, a, that you are somehow uncomfortable. yes, and people somehow disappear from the left and right. yes, give freedom and the problem is that this pendulum should not swing too much. a normal society from left to right is when the pendulum is good, the problem is that these circumstances are being pumped up, which are now going on. e , some kind of pendulum in the direction of tightening the screws from my point of view. i don't see it. but a is allowed, it seems to me, wrong expansion of the concept of patriotism, because what is soviet patriotism. i remember lenin during the first world war. this is a traitor. this is vlasov. this is a man who demanded the defeat of his fatherland. here is classic communist patriotism. he only believes that it should be like a corner, professor diskin cried while

the patriotism that we have now, and a colleague almost had a heart attack. we would save the first thesis. well, you can't. your own opinion is strongly relied upon. it's the only right and so disrespectful to treat the opinion of the people. and who among us does not respect a divorce just now, and now and you generally keep quiet. now the answer is the soviet union more than 60%. our citizens believe that their success depends on their own efforts, and not on government assistance. well, what kind of soviet cheese is it, which stood on pathognalism. this is the first second. and yes, there is such a book, akhiza about the pendulum, but thank you lord, sociologists have already dealt with this. well, philosophical views are wonderful in order to automate the situation.

see me here, been told now, yeah, eh procyclicality here is a pendulum. i'm already sitting. i was already sitting out of the opposite. it was said that this would be correct, but there is an opinion of the mongols themselves. there is an opinion of uzbeks. wait. leave the mongols alone. you tell me, that is, no cyclicity, no pendulum. i'm afraid that there's nothing, what's yet to come in my life. we can go back, otherwise i yelled at him. with stalin, no no wait wait. so what are you, wait? you again emphasizes, yes, the youngest of ours here is an expert. that is, you are afraid of something or these pendulums don’t scare at all. there is a concept that history goes like a cycle, but you think so, look, i think it’s necessary, uh, to understand them more specifically, because today we spoke such words as patriotism the soviet union for 70 years are completely different

politicians. stalin seems to be a specific figure, but at the same time, each person is talking about steel, so the next question after the patriot question, do you love the soviet union , you left, of course, specifically. yes, and what exactly do you like in the soviet union patriotism has risen no and so on, and therefore the next step we will understand is that stalin , as i understand it, now, if such deeper interviews are conducted with people, this is not only not only, but a red flag over the reichstag. well, another concept. eh, to understand justice, about which he speaks, and what is justice set? well? this means such, including mass arrests of corrupt officials and representatives of the then soviet nomenklatura, generally speaking, so love for stalin is in context. that's such a hard hand, that's a hard hand against representatives of the authorities. there is an average order. there is one more minute. yes, wait a minute, yes, in many ways, uh, love for stalin and for any historical character. this is the result , on the one hand, of the mythologization of this character

on the other hand. as far as this character e approaches that historical psychotype of the people, e, which speaks about him, opponents can argue at school. arguing as much as you like, but both peter and catherine became they in many ways. corresponds to that historical psychotype, how he thinks, like ivan terrible as the ruler thinks, our people are an aggregate on the one hand. if such polls had been conducted during the time of mother empress, there might have been a completely different picture, because i am talking about the mythologization of this image. but that's absolutely right, a colleague said that it was a struggle not only with tears, but also mainly by representatives of the power structures of the nomenklatura. no, there was not. this is our people. thank you very much, in general on the very personal life that we rarely have such discussions we are conducting, well, the objective correctly said

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this is the meeting place on ntv, the place where everything becomes clear. we continue as promised was moving on to our practical main topic. today, i remind you once again, we wanted to, uh, tell you a little about how the situation at the front could change if and when ukraine gets f-16 planes, now we’ll talk in detail about this, but first vanya will show us sergey viktorovich lavrov dancing and something then there is still there, let 's start this part, really groovy shots from south africa there, as you know, in johannesburg today the briks themselves are opening. here is the plane of the head of our delegation of the minister of foreign affairs, flew to the base of the waters, and there was the russian minister of foreign affairs. now we all this, uh, we will see, met the loss with such national dances. it wasn't just men dancing there. well, here are these beautiful ladies next to the laurel. i 'll be honest, i watched the full video.

several times it even seemed to me that at some point lavrov wanted to somehow join them himself, but he didn’t, and according to the protocol , he already went further according to his program , a much less warm welcome is being prepared for the ex-president of the united states in the state, georgia we are talking about donald trump according to cnn as early as thursday. he must arrive at the fullton county jail, where he will go through the so-called arrest procedure. a very american story. under this procedure , trump will usually be photographed and fingerprinted upon completion of all formalities. trump will post a bail of $ 200,000. after which he will be released back to freedom, trump managed to negotiate with the office of the attorney general of georgia in accordance with this agreement. he will not be allowed to interfere in legal proceedings. social media investigation processes. if trump begins to somehow threaten the witness and other suspects with conditions, the deals may be reviewed, and he may apparently go to jail.

note that this is the first of trump's criminal cases where he has to pay bail on this point, he was humorous on his page on social networks trump you wrote that the prosecutor was afraid of his possible escape to russia i will fly far, far away, perhaps in russia i will share golden domed suite with vladimir and more. no one will see or hear me. now let's move on to other shots. let's see this fire victim in hawaii meets joe biden. as you remember, there were very big fires , according to official data, 114 people died there, and now biden flew in 2 weeks after these fires started, which explains what they shouted in the direction of his motorcade. let's watch the video with sound. the pictures arrived in hawaii on monday by helicopter, he inspected the affected island. also drove around with a motorcade

to the city of lakhtain. it almost completely burned out as a result of fires along the route of the motorcade, according to the white house press pool, people lined up with posters trump won and to hell with biden, the reason was. the president's public reaction to the biden tragedy is too late. for the first time, he spoke about the fires almost a week later, and before that, with a smile, biden himself refused to comment on the increase in the number of deaths, having arrived on the island, he tried to pity the victims of the story about how he almost lost his own in the fire 15 years ago collectible candy. and i don't want to compare the hardships that each of us faces, but jill and i understand a little. what it's like to lose a house many years ago 15 years ago. i was in washington for a briefing, it was a sunny sunday, when suddenly lightning struck and a discharge ran through the wires under our house through the heating and air conditioning pipes. and to make a long story short,

i almost lost my wife, my 67 corvette, and my cat. but the evil people from the publication. new york, the post found out that biden, or something again confused, as it happens to him, or simply lied, the incident with the fire in the house of the american president really happened, but not in 2008, according to biden, and in the fourth year he was still a senator in the kitchen of his house, by the way, a small deli vre happened fire. indeed, as if one tells because of the lightning strike as a result of this coming, then no one suffered the fire was taken under control, for example, lived there for up to 20 minutes. itself caused firefighters fiery course, history. andrey so today i am directly lost in these comments. i was just wondering why we blurted or it wasn't we who blurted our fingers, but screams. here americans don't need a finger. maybe someone we have in english we have in

the middle okay with them. so now for another trip. hmm, too, so here are the trips of smokers, like, here’s a canoe, there trump zelensky is now traveling around european countries and he asks, well, where they ask, where they ask for an airplane with a different degree of success, he succeeds vanya as you remember yesterday in such a new block about this told? let's just more. last saturday , terrorist president zelensky went on a tour of european countries and begged for modern fighter jets wherever he stopped , and sweden was no exception to the swedish flu. the swedish flu is the pride of your state. and we believe, i believe that such a pride in the prime minister. could share with ukraine but the swedes. they didn’t fall for the forest and delicately refused, citing the fact that they themselves had little aircraft in nato , the country had not yet joined. in general , there is nothing to defend against russia, but just in case praised the high level of begging of the terrorist president zelensky i have great

respect for the fact that they demand more and need more. he speaks openly. after all, he doesn’t have time for small talk, but we are in the wrong situation . sweden is a geographically large country, we have to defend ourselves, and so far, not in nato , perseverance could pass on to zelensky the first successful agreements of the cherished f-16s. the other day, orders came from washington to junior nato partners denmark and the netherlands to send to ukrainians in their old planes. the danes promised 19 aircraft, but not immediately 6 before the new year, eight more over the next year, and the remaining five already in 2025. but the dutch put zelensky before the fact, they say, give us everything you have, that is, 42 f-16 fighters the premiere of luta, such impudence, seemed to be a little shocked. we evaluate. will we be able to deliver unused aircraft? either they still need to be updated or this is an impossible exact number. i

can't tell you, but at the moment we 're working from what we have only 42 aircraft. in short, kiev is not particularly optimistic about the possible supply of f-16s, even if the netherlands gives up all its aircraft, plus the promised by denmark - this is recruiting 61 fighters. and ukraine, according to the military , needs twice as much. 120 that was the goal of 128 the number of fighters, which would be enough to replace the old fleet of vehicles and be dispersed throughout the state. these are approximately four aviation brigades, by the way, four, aviation brigades, from not only planes, but also pilots, so the president of the terrorist goes to the ballot box and seeks from allies, also obligations to train ukrainian pilots on monday, under the pressure of zelensky pavel of greece, today we have achieved an important result for the aviation coalition, greece will take part in the training

of our pilots on f -16. thanks for this offer and for the readiness of your team to help ukraine more to defend our freedom, the americans enthusiastically supported the training of ukrainian pilots on european bases, promising to ensure progress training and estimating the total duration of several months in practice, according to the washington post newspaper, the first group of six pilots to both. the young f16 hasn’t even started yet, because they have to fill in the gaps in their knowledge of english at a technical level . in general, even the us military estimates the full-fledged training of ukrainian pilots at four or five years. uh talk. well , here i am anyway. it's all hmm somehow causes such a squeamish little bit relation. this is such a collective prayer. uh, ukrainian kievskaya. on

this one, yes, that is, a super-weapon with which they can defeat russia. yes, at first there were zhivilins, then there would be oktars, then there were haimas. everything, then there were desks, now 16, well, somehow a special change. i do not see. i have no right to such an interpretation, because you always call on us to be vigilant, which should not be underestimated, the enemy, and so on. well, look, uh, here's the kaerl. uh one of characters. remember talking even in order to stand still. sometimes you have to run really fast. and in order to run to run twice as much, so, uh, a year and a half of hostilities, a significant part of the aviation is practically. well, she is already on the way, and drying and ukrainian instants, here is a citizen, ignat, whom you just quoted. when he spoke about 128 aircraft, he spoke about

the restoration of the fleet. uh, he wasn’t even in his phrase that we would dominate the sky there, so uh, it’s literally the same mr. ignat said the other day that he says as soon as our plane takes off from five to nine russian planes, right? you understand less and less and practically does not remain, therefore this story. it consists of several blocks. it's simple, firstly, the restoration of at least some combat capability. uh, the ukrainian air force doesn't have them, and uh, this is a problem that they have to somehow solve, because uh, they got missiles, and the missile is still being fired now. eh, even the same tarusas. if now the germans will give it all. well , even if pr is completely informational, no this, of course, is a story about at least maintenance, certain combat readiness, on the one hand, on the other hand. well, we know about the price of americans, because zelensky is working here for someone now, he is working. uh,

an american military officer. why because he comes to the country? you just need to understand the scheme, how does it happen? come to the country, he says, give us a plane. it's not an l-list. this is a gift, because half a sheet, then the money would have assumed. give us a plane and not this. yes of course get americans have beautiful new ones quite right. this is an american communicator voyager, who persuades, on the one hand , to give him a gift, and in return for this gift , buy from an older brother or cholesterol, which well, a plane. this is a 5% old man, probably victor, moreover, after all, the direct appeal of the americans, for example, the us secretary of defense or biden or some other official to the people of sweden, the netherlands, denmark well, it would not have had such an impact as the fighting leader arrives , and ukraine, to them and from them

asking them asks asks begging asks for a long time, but the go-ahead appeared only the happiness of the awesome states yes, from the united states, so i completely agree this is a very successful pr. the scheme has been very successful. and zelensky is the work of zelensky, yes. and wait for the governments of these countries. they conduct their own negotiations with the americans and with nato, and these decisions are made outside the context of his visits. he comes already ready, in fact. his appeal. this is pr for the people in those countries that supply military equipment and other financial resources to ukraine because that it is necessary to convince the people of different countries of europe that this is necessary, despite different problems. within these countries, it is necessary to constantly supply military equipment with financial resources, for example, and so on. and since this scheme is successful, we can unfortunately expect it to continue. they will do this until the end of this year and next year,

as for andrei vladimirovich, he spoke about javelins. er, about some other weapon systems, when they look at this situation? i mean americans british. they that, after all, they see they believe that thanks to these supplies. this conflict has been going on for a year and a half, and they are not counting on the fact that these aircraft will not even be delivered there to some extent. they don't count. what a grandiose victory for ukraine so that they don’t tell the ukrainians there , they will say this and the ukrainian leadership will tell its population that the americans, the british of their allies, have completely different calculations, completely different. their goal is absolutely anti-russian to use ukraine ukrainians, whom they do not feel sorry for, do not feel sorry for, they are extremely utilitarian, and they will continue and continue and continue to do this terrible hangover, then hmm well , first of all, yes, they don’t lose their people

maxim anatolyevich will affect the course of hostilities here as well. i am now konstantin valentinovich for you. yes, i will express a few of my thoughts. and here it is always necessary to look at the reaction in the opposite direction. pants, i watched the reaction in ukrainian social networks to these deliveries to the news about the program, they are very disappointed. why are we so patriotic, we would say nationalistic, i am deputies and former deputies there. uh, read and famous journalists believe that little believe it is too late. and we are convinced that the west, by mockingly dosed such supplies, only drags out the war. in general, they understand that dasha is their chance. yes, a quick victory and peace on ukrainian terms. that is, they must be understood, the active part of ukrainian

public opinion, the maximalists, they need a victory, they do not want any compromises. and at i get the feeling that these really dosed deliveries, which the americans carry out in ukraine , seem to me like a mockery, and the americans are pushing without talking about it. uh, open. no one would open it, but in fact they are pushing zelensky, who is guided by the radical part of public opinion, to the fact that after all , maximalist demands should be removed from the agenda and when it arises. i really hope that there will be closer to the end of autumn, and a chance for uh, a peaceful agreement. who it is possible, yes, that then the ukrainians would agree to the necessary compromises, because otherwise, when in yours it is very difficult for this picture to be the public opinion of this small piece of the world, well, as if these f-16s are generally outside the brackets, yeah, that is, they are generally

don't matter. and the plot was very good. you said what schedule until the end before the end of the year only six. yes, only until the end of the year. even these six aircraft, while the pilots are trained there, while they are out. that's probably somewhere. maybe mart's a cop. april. they will be at the front. there's already taken the contrast to end. god forbid yes, let's say next spring, if the conflict does not end, ukraine receives up to 100 of these aircraft there. while we are talking about this figure , how much is 60 for us. well, in general , maybe someone else joined, i went through the big picture to give up to 100, and they turn out to be planes. how could this change the fighting though. if it can even change how easily these planes are shot down for our e, planes and for our air defense, then in general. formulated so essential

the supply will not have an impact on the word essential key to the course of the poet's hostilities. just from the balance of forces of the parties, our grouping is up to 300 aircraft there. judging by the open sources of the same nato, they supply 101 to three in our favor, our second grouping relies on e, still deeply echeloned. uh, so to speak, a multi-layered air defense system, including long-range s400 systems, which are not in ukraine. they generally do not have effective air defense, so some serious influence. they cannot provide they can do. here is what they are doing now. that is, these are small groups of 1-2 aircraft there at intervals. maybe once twice a day, having discovered some kind of gap in the air defense system at low, extremely low, the heights came out, hit and ran away, that's all i can't do. about any domination near and, of course, in such conditions, we can’t even talk about it. let's compare the characteristics

of our aircraft that operate there su-35s and uh, the plane uh, then the f-16 there are modifications that it is in service with holland it has a radar station, and on the pzh 80 further from the detection of an air target , such as a fighter, it is 110 km, respectively , the effective firing range of the missile , taking into account the head of the capture head, the capture of escort and much more 70-80 km of the maximum su-35 air target of the f16 type takes distance of 400 km. almost four times more has the possibility of 350 security. with such what i read about them, that they supposedly want to attach these at 16 under these, what is there for the swede, and then, how would they be shelling, crimea, that i, as it were, these planes are first of all needed

in order to release a long-range missile and fly away yes , yes, yes, yes, uh, it can be done really technically, which means it’s not well, of course, this is realistically feasible . no problem question. how many times have i told you storm is a masterpiece, and secondly, the launch range of these missiles is 280 km, the maximum, taking into account movement by bending the terrain and maneuvering around air defense zones, is really effective. this is somewhere no more than 200. this means that this is also the zone of effective our air defense yeah, it's just that in this case we will have to ensure that we constantly patrol at least one radar patrol aircraft, which this f-16 takes at a distance of about 500 km, and according to this aircraft, direct our fighters to destroy them. here, therefore , it will also be the same as i understood you, the fourth. that is, this is the same as the current su-24 good moments of choice hit for a shot and ran away to eat everything now. we'll stop, there's one more moment. yes, which,

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will be my fish reserved special forces friday at 20:00 on ntv place we continue. and now let's try to focus. on the most unpleasant, not on some intermediate ones, but it’s unpleasant for us to color it, for example, ukraine receives a certain number of dozens closer to hundreds to hundreds of these fighters, for example, pilots appear from somewhere, ukrainian or mercenaries or something else to manage , because now our army is systematically working to ensure that there are no airfields capable of receiving and sending these aircraft ; there are fears that these aircraft

they can fly from the nearest nato countries, and then let's talk about the plot, let's see. ukrainian air force commander mykola aleshchuk announced the day before that an american f-16 had already flown to the ukrainian airfield, and everything went well. true, the journalists found out that the f-16 did visit ukraine, but back in 2011. now, according to the words, alyushchuk. that's it, work on the preparation of runways, the reconstruction of airfields, and protective structures are being built even better. however, not everything is so smooth even, a bream admits that ukrainian planes do not always have time to break away. from this runway. our planes are constantly fired upon while performing missions against our pilot, shelling from five to nine planes of various types immediately takes place, they shoot from the ground and from the air that the infrastructure is for expensive western planes. in ukraine , no, the head of the ministry of defense reznikov said back in july its liquidation. russian army. planned. engaged throughout

the operation. for example, only for the last for a month, our aviation aimed at the airfield three times. and the air bases of the allied forces in different parts of ukraine have just had two claps. the first one left this trace , the second one i don’t see yet. cleaned russian air strikes on airfields prevent the use of long-range missiles transferred by the west with tom shededu looking for an aircraft to be launched, the financial newspaper reported last week. times, according to the publication, in order to protect their combat aircraft , ukrainians have to transport them every now and then from one airfield to another, and ukrainian pilots have to make constant flights between surviving air bases and commercial airfields. already, many experts are predicting that in such a situation , the new fighters will probably take off not from the territory of ukraine, but from the airfields of poland , romania or bulgaria, the russian foreign ministry warns against such decisions. every specialist knows that in ukraine

there is no infrastructure for the operation of the f-16. yes, and there is also no required number of pilots for maintenance personnel, what will happen, if american fighters take off from nato airfields, controlled by foreign volunteers, andrey nikolayevich, what will happen? should the united states , together with its allies, decide to launch these, as it were , ukrainian planes from some kind of border with ukraine and polish, for example, airfields. and what will be our actions then? no, you understand decide not to decide. it entirely depends on the circumstance whether nato directly enters into a military conflict with the participation of the armed forces or does not enter until now as long as it wasn't. let me remind you that the story with the american drone on the black sea, which the americans accepted very calmly, because this is the very rule of the game, how would they consider that they were violated, therefore the loss of the drone. well, yes, they regretted everything, if you ask yourself the situation that the f-16 is rising from a polish airfield. it will strike a city in

the crimea, yes, yes, and people die in any object, what happens next . then, accordingly, a strike follows the airfield from which the plane took off in polish in polish, immediately without any warning from our side. it's inherently do not know ultimatums and so on in the conflict, you know, one thing when we talk about creating a bass. ah, the introduction. there, with him, the wounded, and so on and so forth, another direct participation, and this is precisely the direct participation of the conflict. this has been said more than once after such a blow. if you say so, it will be. poland will eat it without further conflict. and it will be again. i believe that if they go for it, then, accordingly, this will be a precedent for entering the conflict in poland. well, again, then we are talking about the need to really decide to involve at least one more country in the conflict, but i think that it is still not, because when we talk about what is happening now. you see, this is ukraine, just like

with its president. it's hard, sick addict. you know, these doses of euphoria, which he now otzhivelin, then they are reduced from bayraktar and now, when they tell you, there are 16, he says there at 16 other. here you are today, mr. reznikov, a. he says that everyone will go through the war, everyone will be disabled, everyone will suffer , everyone will go to the front. what is this for? because f-16 is a dose that should make ukrainians feel that he is not doomed. and can somehow get out of this? this is just this dose that is given by the blood. no more than that, by the way, i do not agree here, therefore, that there are some signs that the conflict is in a peaceful stage. that's just it, if you wanted to go to some negotiations, we would not give, because ukrainian society has such a feeling of what is happening. this is how it is with a person who is in a state of withdrawal. he sees what happens every day receives coffins. he understands that he drags people away to die and has no chances, he practically doesn’t see them anymore, because they don’t come from there at 16. in my opinion, we will always have, but vladimir viktorovich about

everything, returning to polish airfields and so on. you shook your head, i don't think so. i shook my head, only confirming that for me, in fact, the main thing is the fear of the polish romanian bulgarian airfields exactly, because uh, you understand for kiev , of course, the cherished dream is now that someone else would intervene in this conflict on the side of kiev a. neighbors sometimes have the feeling that plans to somehow intervene in the conflict so on the floor of the bumps a little bit. well , so as not to interfere at all. well , i don’t think that some kind of bump is not very good looking. it is possible in different ways, you can directly, taking off from an airfield in poland, enter the territory of ukraine and launch a rocket return to the airport. poland, for example, this week. yes, wait, and you can act a little more gracefully using some airfields in ukraine. jump. here he landed. there, immediately takeoff landing from

bombed. gone again. no, that's right. yes and they can they be built from build? well, that is, no, no, it can be built for the protea for some kind of plywood airplane, which they pass through the neutral inputs of the same aircraft, that is, uh, there are a lot of options. they still remember some times of the korean war there, but migov, but then direct conflict of the soviet union between the droplets, we will still perceive this aircraft as a direct threat, as an aircraft that fires a missile at our territory and then where it goes. well, i don’t know, i just can’t imagine, and you are in neutral waters. excuse the territory of the country of a member of the north of the atlantic face. the territory of the country is the plane that stood there. you are ready to bomb the territory, and this side is ready to help in the war against a nuclear power with its own participation. . yes maxim anatolievich here. now you are rehearsing the conversation that may take place in

a few months. six months later. god forbid when this scenario can be carried out. after six months later. so long, god forbid. no, i hope it doesn't. and i don't believe that the eastern european members of nato are so mad as to give the ukrainians the opportunity to take off from their airfields. maybe, on the contrary, this conversation will just become. so you know, that's the trigger when everyone realizes what's next it’s impossible to escalate, it’s necessary somehow, i exclude bulgaria, the romanians will not do this, too , the poles are theoretically unlikely. here, for example, i consider this scenario unlikely, but nevertheless. let's look at what agrees to this more after the elections that they will have, because well, the self-preservation instinct of ukrainians has already atrophied. we need to atrophy, so that the eyes of the poles. in general, they are also somewhere mentally close. and i do not rule out that they may try to take a risk. that's what

happens after that, you won't be instantly our blow, oh, which is not. i'm asking. i think that there will be several ultimatums, maybe even ultimatums. and well, they will be extremely tough, and it will be said there that we are striking at the country of a nato member, it’s already. sorry, if she allows this, after that the americans should turn on, because they have just happy people, if their self-preservation has not atrophied, has not gone away. and that, if there is such an incident, it will be the first and the last here, so i don't think it will come to this, because, well, we are not madmen sitting either, a full-fledged full-blown blow to the structure of the penis. nato will not be inflicted without warning, perhaps, just in this way moscow will achieve what it has been striving for since december 2021, so that it seems to me that they start a full-fledged security dialogue, and the hot security is clear. eh, let's say. how to say

a mood, or something, uh, the story with chernigov, which they present there as the devil knows that another bucha is some kind. no, we all got the information there, who was poles were lithuanians, there were military spices, just for cartridges. well, these are their problems, that they are such territories, it’s important there, but we can always americans, as far as i understand, there were some other german specialists who say, yes, well, they say, they say, they came to a warring country, the territory of the country , nevertheless , they were on the territory of a belligerent country even for serving strange nato. well, this is a military country, that is, cases of nato on the territory of ukraine does not apply. yes, even if on the territory of ukraine, and even if there will be 1,000 of some nato figures or someone else , the nato charter for the protection of nato countries on the territory of ukraine does not apply. it's very important

to understand a very serious difference, i don't argue, but it seems to me that i don't know a few months ago. probably, many of us would also doubt it. is it possible to strike at the territory of ukraine here. we as volunteers volunteers mercenaries are one story. it's still, like some came. there , the shrinks were discussing what the officers should say when we when the delegation officially many delegations come to kiev, but we put on it no, of course, but here it’s not official that they warned us through the military. here we are asking. now don’t strike at these, then i know that zelensky also flew there. eh, waiting. there is confirmation that no one will fire at him, relative to poland again, let's do it. according to international law, if

aircraft take off from the territory of a country and strike at one of the belligerents, this country is a party to the conflict, and in relation to that country, according to which is struck, it carries out an act of aggression, yes point therefore, we answer. i totally agree. well, as you said, most likely, it will be carefully considered, delayed and all that, before deciding to take such a step. the second point is also about what will go in poland. yes, it’s not the states that decide there anymore, but the states have the situation. this is the commander who brought his first echelon into battle and this first went did not solve the problem. he can lead the second battle for the states . ukraine is the first theopolitical echelon in fight and he now has a dilemma in the states, either to admit defeat and pass attempts, or to drive the second hose in action. now they do not know what to do, but what the second echelon is preparing to strike and into the water in action. this is evident from the nature of the activities and the baltics.

and poland. therefore, as an option that they cannot start from the territory of poland . well, then poland enters, so this is a completely feasible one of the possible options. here's the thing. uh, the possibilities of basing the f16 on the territory of ukraine can really here, taking into account the operational situation , to provide, well, 10-15-20, a maximum of cars that will be distributed in small groups at civilian airfields. that's hidden from there. it can mean that these airfields will no longer be civilian. yes, yes, maneuver-based, that is, he sat here, took off, flew back , let's go to another. we are talking about the introduction of the next echelons into battle there. this is what konstantin valentinovich let us down again. there is an interesting note there. we are american in a good way yes let me down, yes didn't make sense. uh. yes , she caused some trouble to us in slang, which means that she prepared

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are the arguments as it might look. this is a ukrainian counteroffensive. after that, how will they get this next new type of weapon. in this case f-16. there are some time intervals. even if there are no breakthroughs this summer, ukraine can continue to fight and over the winter , over time, ukraine will use more of its nato-trained and equipped brigades , while russia will find it difficult to maintain its rate of fire and coherence on the front lines by the middle of next year. ukraine may also use f-16 jet fighters the big question is related to the f-16. is what weapons the us may allow them to carry. russia has anti-aircraft systems that can hit aircraft equipped with munitions such as jones stand tactical missiles and

precision bombs. combat could have allowed the f-16 to keep a safer distance from the front. andrey yurievich what do you think? why? so far? such considerations do not disappear. although it would seem like it would be possible to analyze the situation. there last spring last summer fall current spring this summer. that is why they believe that a something it will work, i.e. it will not work. and what will happen that time, what will happen this time, although nothing has worked out so far. well, because in general , rhetoric, and in the endless ukrainian offensives, this is also an information tool for our deterrence, because every time the topic starts to swing, that ukraine is about to break through us, as it were, and we enter a state of reflection, where judging. well, actually we 're coming. if we figure it out like this, we started this operation, we are advancing and, uh

, in order to detain us in the information and in the political space in the theater of operations. uh, you need this constant pumping and innovative meaningful weapons in terms of supplies, and so on in this sense, this is, well, to a large extent an informational component. but of course, it should not be completely ruled out that this is a picture, in the theater of operations there with these deliveries somehow it will not change either. he is a simple example for us, uh, a significant part of the combat work is now carried out by combat helicopters. the same k-52. that's when we we talk about the confrontation there, let's say, uh, aviation, then, well, you correctly showed a number of missiles now, because the americans are doing the same. eh, it was put by the europeans. and they put the rockets. we, that is, there is some kind of cooperation. they always do this in all their warriors, and therefore they need to show that we are not alone. we are pumping ukraine, we are all pumping it together, and that's

when they will have these missiles on the planes that were installed by, uh, the europeans. well, of course it does. e on the combat ones defined there quality now, even if we return to the conversation that was about airfields. so i just want to remind you that there is, for example, an airfield in uzhgorod, which has an agreement with slovakia on the use of landings and starts. uh, the airspace of slovakia, on takeoff, on landing, they immediately go into the airspace of slovakia. as a nato member country, there are many such examples. they flew up and worked on our helicopters, for example, over long distances. well, uh, of course rhetoric. she lets it airfield. uzhgorod to visit different airfields. in ukraine, this is a very large territory. here, at least, let's start. let's get on with it, there are factories and asphalt plants that

roll up these take-offs there for a short time, because then let's visit the factories. well. yes, they are standing there, taking off , but planes are still taking off now. ukrainian planes are still working for us . we are working on them with missiles. well, it's just not like that. here is such a local, small story. she's very big, that's why uh and why the planes should be so correct, the colleague said, they need to be distributed around the country, and then constantly maneuver them there , including their deployment and to the theater of operations, of course, there, from the point of view of isolating the theater of operations, the defeat of ours there, the same helicopter teams. well , of course, and uh, for this reason, uh, such informational content pumping. it makes it possible to be in good shape and find ukraine, if we are talking about a western audience. here everything is logical. you stated that we will invest in ukraine, we will achieve the result we need, there is no result. no, you

have to give something to the western audience. here you have to take only one, we will give something else. and that's when it will definitely happen, because if you don't say that , ask the question what to do next, the money invested, so now there is a conversation. this , of course, this article is a rather primitive conversation, that here they are now yes , but it’s another matter that one way or another we are approaching a certain ending, that is, they get planes. then they will ask for a missile with a range of up to 1,000 km, and then the question arises of everything that they can take a shit, then nuclear weapons. yes, nuclear weapons. we are coming to the end of this story one way or another, therefore, well, the strength of the dose will no longer be missed. uh, does he want a suicide? does he want a suicide, because the calculation is not even for the victory, you understand the calculation is actually to listen to the smell, and not for the victory, it is russia's recognition of its defeat. that is, if you listen to the conversation, when right now, for example, yes, yes, mobilize 3 million ukrainians, er, the russians will not mobilize additional reserves. i

mean, that's what the conversation is about. well, that's all now russia will agree. that is, we will completely turn ukraine into minced meat, but nevertheless we will achieve our results. why won't we, because we're talking. what is the need? well, no, because they are inconvenient, because the question is uh, and if the russians then understand, all this meaning is simply nullified. let's see how it fits together. with your idea, you always tell us that they are interested. how longer and longer and longer. if all this really rests, then nothing more can be delivered to the roof of nuclear weapons in some story. how can this be avoided ? why is this constant? why nuclear weapons on the contrary. well, if russia does not inform. uh, nuclear strikes will not be the same for other countries, then no one will provide ukraine with nuclear weapons. it's just western is completely unnecessary. opposite the west needs, uh, and the west. i mean, first of all, the awesome states of great britain some other countries. not all

western countries. e agree with this. but those who decide on this agree to the maximum uh hmm duration? conflict, well, you understand the damage to russia, but some new ones should supply less. why and here's the whole story, then what is it needed, but it doesn't work like that, but what will they do? here, look at such conflicts, look at the vietnamese wounds and slave conflicts that went on for many, many years, many, many years. sometimes new types of weapons were supplied there. sometimes not. see, here's the problem. that's what for the ukrainian population and for the ukrainian armed forces will constantly hang informational propaganda line that every next offensive. here it is sure to win, but this time it did not work out. well here's the next entry be sure to use some here to turn into a boy who screamed wolves

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25% open the application for free. ntv is the meeting place, if we assume that the west will try. as long as possible , drag out this conflict, is such an option possible, the moment comes and kiev itself says everything is fine. we are tired. we want peace konstantin valentinovich after the change of power in states or after the complete defeat of the apu. so vladimir viktorovich ukraine lives in hope, as long as this hope is given to it. they will hope to the last, even if they already come close to the western borders of ukraine. look, nikolaevich at one time, czech enterprises

stopped supplying weapons to adolf hitler in may 45. so, the money stopped coming in if they stop paying ukrainians the next day he will tell me that they are finishing it. i understand vector zhivchik ukraine will fight as much as the west it will demand this from it and finance will supply them with weapons. that is, uh, there can be no independent. maybe they are ukraine at the moment a state limited by sovereignty andrey yuryevich maybe when we formulate an image of the future for ukraine e, one where the image of our victory will not be a humiliating defeat for ukraine and we will formulate this image of victory for ourselves for ourselves too maxim anatolyevich will never stop. they are stubborn, they are stubborn for them. this is a domestic war. they are fierce they hate and will, uh, fight until they win. maximalist conditions for fulfilling their

maximum conditions, therefore, all hope for the west is that the west will stop them and impose a component on them, but they themselves are not ready for this. you today used the word wunderwaffle given there, of which one way or another the germans. waited for the last 2 years of the war. i hope that here it is, even though the war will come, it's all the same. here are the germans, by some year they were tired of the war. no answer no, only the defeat of the forty- fifth year stopped here will be the same the most important thing about prodigies will be told 150 times so that people keep the word woodcutter heard for the first time in donetsk when i arrived there. ah, i'll be back by the first hour. well, if you and i sort of agree that these final stories of ours are illustrations of a particular topic that was discussed, then today's illustration, this picture, is what it is. sad, maybe even bitter, but i can't help it, because she very colorfully describes the relationship, and our fellow citizens. i mean,

here is the topic of this anti-rating of leaders, where gorbachev comes first gorbachev american journalists say that gorbachev has been 30 years since the public-private partnership declared your health to be very poor. here we are talking to you and none of the members of the gkchp. no longer alive. how do you explain it? he speaks very simply. you know what remorse the americans say. yes, he says, but i do not. it was a meeting place that cannot be changed 14:00 weekdays ntv goodbye. the symbol of the country in russia is celebrating the day today state flag. what is the history of the tricolor policy of multipolarity in south africa opened