brix is ​​ready to accept new countries into its ranks. will the organization be able to become a united fist against? we are against the west, any kind of hegemony, slaves, we are not south africa and india demanded that britain return the exported national treasures, which was answered in london i can’t help but feel the burden of history out of sight state and could it be otherwise goodbye unwashed russia look right now. hello, this is the meeting place on ntv place, where does it all become clear? i'm andrey norkin. my colleague is ivan trushkin. we are working live. today, we will finally be able to talk in more detail about the brix summit that is taking place in south africa. the main question

is whether quantity will turn into quality, because for the five existing members, this is its unification. that's right. so far , six more are added. this is what we'll talk about. but the second hour is, unfortunately, ukraine again, they have a double holiday there today. and you probably remember independence day, yes, and zelensky well in general, there the kiev representatives threatened them on august 24 to arrange something for us, there were some terrible attacks, terrorist attacks, and so on and so forth. well, since a catastrophe died yesterday, the owner of the wagner pmc, yevgeny prigozhin, is in kiev, of course, now i ’m saying, the festive mood there is like a pig. pushes, means, the first messages. actually, in general, the first footage taken by eyewitnesses of yesterday's plane crash began to appear in telegram channels. somewhere around 19:00. a little over 20 minutes later, the fact of the disaster confirmed in the ministry of emergencies, stating that the legacy embraer business jet crashed, which was

flying from moscow to petersburg, according to the flightradar service, the plane, gaining altitude a little more than 9 km, disappeared from the radar. after 26 minutes. after takeoff, the plane crashed near the village of kuzhenkin. this is the vologda region, but the northwest of the tver region is about halfway from tver to veliky novgorod to moscow, about 300 km. when the plane crashed, filled tanks exploded, before taking off, the tanks at the crash site, a fire broke out, the federal air transport agency quickly published a list of passengers who were on board the fallen jet, except for the prigozhin. it is one of or there in this list. one of his closest associates, valery chikalov, is also wagner commander dmitry utkin, several pmc employees. well , three crew members in the department specified that permission for the flight of this jet was issued in accordance with the established one. well, that is, if we translate in the usual way , the body from the crashed side has not yet been officially reported about the death of prigozhin, while

unidentified, it will take, apparently, a dna analysis of the al-jazeera channel with citing sources, saying that yevgeny prigogine’s phone was found at the crash site, but the fact of identification of his body was not confirmed. well , the rbc publication, referring to its sources in the investigative committee. she reported that the investigation of this catastrophe was entrusted to the investigator ivan sebuli, it was he who investigated the catastrophe. in vnukovo, when it happened to the business jet of the head of the then total crosses and demojiri in 2014, exactly. he also investigated the disaster with the superjet 100 at sheremetyevo, that is, the experience of the air traffic investigator is quite large. the investigative committee opened a criminal case under the article on violation of the rules of traffic safety and operation of air transport. it is known that now all versions are being considered, this is a pilot error and technical problems and external influence, the federal air transport agency has already formed a commission that should study

all the materials related to the crew training from the preparation of this business jet itself for flight, as well as data on the technical condition of the crashed machines and actions of ground services. well, andrei ivanovich on the plane crash, probably a lot. everything if there is an update, so far there is no official information. no, what is there is a huge amount of a wide variety of stuffing. there are outright provocative, therefore, as always, unfortunately, when something like this happens, we are forced to call you to this informational hygiene. please don't fall for anything. now wait, because there are, for example, well, some messages, like, like uh with links to sources. including there power structures, some are very similar to the truth. well, for example, there, they say, it hints at how the catastrophe could have happened, that explosives could have been planted there. even the name of the person, the inner circle of evgeny prigozhin, is called, that they are looking for him. let's. we 're not going to take any of this seriously for now

, and uh, wait, because it's really here. of course, you need to try and restrain yourself a little in this situation. i mean, it's about looking for information, and , uh, trusting it, we'll come back to this topic for sure when we're sure that we can tell you like this, so now let's talk about brix themselves, because the topic is very interesting. for 2 days, starting tuesday, we quietly approached her with such a sock and ran away to the side, which means the first. that's what me e no let's do it. first, we will see the plot, then i will ask this question that torments me. i 'll just say for now. that's brazil russia india and china and saudi arabia brix these five countries started something. all if you remember, sorry, yes, the south ran, forward the south africa yes. first there was a brick from four countries, then here are five, and now more tin is being added. it's already official argentina egypt ethiopia iran united arab emirates and this is saudi arabia

let's see the plot. on wednesday, the leaders of the brix countries agreed on a document that clearly spells out the criteria for accepting its association of new members before the rules for joining it , in fact, there was no and the western press regularly pointed out this omission, criticizing the brix there is no formal process applications or specific criteria for becoming a brit member, some countries were simply added to the list of potential future members after an informal expression of interest , such attributes as a charter charter or something like that, there are still no ubriks, so formally this is all there is no association, not international organizations, brix and its headquarters, the official languages ​​​​of brix are considered to be russian, chinese, english and portuguese. that is, these are the languages ​​spoken in the members of the union, fear

it also does not have a single governing body, while there are councils, forums and a working group in various areas of cooperation, for example, agriculture, the only common structure of the brix can be considered, founded in 2014 by the development bank , whose headquarters is located in shanghai , the bank was created as an alternative to the international monetary fund to finance infrastructure projects and development programs strange brix development bank capitalization of $100 billion we have approved or completed new infrastructure projects worth up to 35 billion dollars. these are 99 projects scattered throughout the brix countries and the priority today is to expand the bank's global presence so that it becomes a truly global institution in emerging markets. before we start discussing the new opportunities for brix , i'm interested in this question. whatever you

call a boat, that's how it will float. yes, viktor zhezalevich. that's what you think, but we 're here all the time, so that brix is ​​a kind of association where there is no hegemot, and as if everyone is equal, then these new six states, it is unlikely that they will work in an organization called brix, that is, under the name of - well, as it were, under the umbrella of other states. so you need to come up with a name for something. well, it's not serious that there will be 11 letters, or what? it's impossible to pronounce. how to call the european ones too, uh, the union of equals, but at the same time someone is always more equal, it is clear that the specific mating of china uh the european union was originally called and the european union there was no abbreviation some kind of rebranding. uh, some change. e. the formal name upon entry is valid. in this association

new countries, but, but here what is important, but it was said that this is an anti-western association rather, it is not an anti -western association, not a western association , the difference is significant, for example, brazil, which is a member of e, is part of brix e, being under bolsonaro, who is no longer already resigned from the presidency, in parallel is a member of the brix, brazil has become. ah, the united states, has entered into agreements on special military cooperation, that is, a particularly close military ally of the united states. that there are allies not ours to decide. yes, that is , it turns out that membership in the brix does not prevent some countries that are members of it, but to establish and strengthen cooperation with western countries. but, however, what is important is that indeed those countries that are included in the brix and those that are planned to be included are not western countries, that is, the west of the strange country is european, uh, countries there canada usa australia they are not included, so this is not

what anti-western is not anti-name. they western it in their own way, it's like look at the glass, it is half full or half empty . well, it turns out that it’s more likely that the club doesn’t turn it on, yes, than some kind of association from its anti-western surface sergeyevich, given that russia is in confrontation with the collective west , it would be beneficial for russia for this association to take over. eh, it took longer. well, let's say, well, given positions of the same india, which has normal, let's say, directly good relations with gene states and even relations that improve, in principle, of course, to achieve this ukrainian is also literally there 2-3 days ago they said that it was in general, well, not especially. restrains the idea of ​​expansion, so agreed. let gevor valerievich and the character will somehow change. here is such a

single external political orientation, if it exists after six more countries have been added, see the brix countries have already united. no, some principles general foreign policy direction. all for sovereignty, all for constructive development. everyone is not going to participate in any conflicts. there, including the smell, but they are not going to. in general, fight somehow with this very fight with the west. inside. we don't just fight it. we are fighting right inside brix, as if brix is ​​in my opinion, if brix wants to survive in the world. if you want to take the place of the big twenty, even the small seven brix must evolve into an anti-western structure, but it evolves. evolve, unfortunately, because even in the composition that it was, and only russia and china advocated for this, brazil and south africa were categorically opposed to look. to all these tricks and the south african president regarding the invitation of vladimir putin, brazil

was more likely against india than among those countries that entered in fact, only iran is ready for this transformation. brix is ​​not ethiopia but. not even egypt is ready, nor the saudi arabian. don’t be, especially since the emirates are absolutely not ready for this, and in ricks i remind you there is a consensus principle of decision-making, the more countries, the more collective decisions need to be made that will suit everyone together, and so we have included not 23 countries that have submitted applications, but only six that are really inviting at least some benefit to brix. then. tell me, please, alexei nikolayevich . just explain without delving into it, it's just completely wild . with all due respect, but the new six. why e is part of this six and fiope. this result must be understood that georgych says everything will benefit and the effect will be exact. it will bring suffering in a state of civil war. why, then, is this the result of bargaining, because, well, here the koreans were talking, all

three of them. by the way, you talked about this, but listen. you never know what, i say, all three of me, but brazil, south africa, india were against expansion, because it is clear that expansion is a decrease in the status of participants, and china was for that, yes, it understands that this expansion is a purge of chinese history and in order to push this idea through with the expansion, a bargaining began, and brazil brought its partner argentina with it, which also it must be said, well, not the most economically significant player in the world for the rest of the state. there the last 20 years the state of economic crisis, south africa for the right to expand the brix brought with them ethiopia, which is just in a state of civil war with each other and get something as a gift. yes, the right to expand it is determined. that's the fact that here e. will it turn out that among these numerous now equal ones there will be one country with the largest

economy in brigsy will be the country that is more even all this is china which in this case is the club of friends of china that is before. it was a union. here are five approximately equal states there. it’s clear that china was superior to everyone, but today everything is with the fact that , for example, the same ethiopia, the same egypt, uh, is highly dependent on china. well, by the way, russia is also in terms of food supplies, but here are hegemonies, here are individual players, there are no more, well , that’s right, yes, that is, due to this , a certain, how to say, assumption is formed that china has strengthened absolutely strengthened profitably role. yes, the rest of the players, by the way, including russia it falls in this homerat and a for other countries besides china well , the attraction, it is absolutely unambiguous. it will fall, that is, if we talk about brix as a union of five relatively non-

western, yes, and strong states. well, on this one, on the old brit, we had three yesterdays, 23 candidates for entry are already about a piece of paper. why are they all standing. they stand in line with chinese money. this must be understood. you can go to the silk road for chinese money. they have special investment story, walked towards his path. if you want, through trade it is necessary, please, putin is quite difficult to integrate. they are not in the way. here, and here here the money is handed out alone, we are going, yes, i will explain why and everything is there? well, let's have three reasons. the first one needed some african country, and for the regional balance, the second, consider egypt as the neighbor . the eastern side is not quite afghan there as a guide, and the second one should be strong enough and the third one. again, because of egypt, the game i wrote about it, it is enough

strong for african countries and the third reason is the balance between the countries geopolitically ethiopia has a conflict with egypt at the same time, saudi arabia, otherwise the regional balance is violated. so i wanted to connect leonido, markovich, because as i found out thanks to. uh, today's program , you're a member of the national research committee. brix explain to me having such a weighty position, but some headquarters. like, for example, nato or the european union will have some kind of large apparatus in brussels, because so far there is no such headquarters and there is no such administration, but there is still more of a feeling of a club than some kind of organization somewhere . then striving and again i'm wrong. i've been involved in this from the very beginning. i also started writing papers. and about the need for a bank and so on. i don’t want to at all, nadezhda, he, too, is everything. yes. no no no, you. it’s just that we have boris borisovich here, we are with him on e, similar in appearance, of course, in weight, but we

different end do not offend the distribution of e speakers. i don't speak about anything ever , including you have i don't have an academic disclaimer on this subject first. well, i tell what i wrote 10, which means that from the very beginning there was such a question. it didn’t just arise, but with 11 strange ones with five, then, and never before, all countries were very afraid of turning into some kind of organization where it would be necessary to develop a tough unified position to argue and so on. everyone tried to keep. uh, some hands and reaching informal agreements, by the way, reached one of the places where all five countries have decent interaction in the last 10 years. this is the international monetary fund and the world bank, by the way, our development bank is not a fund. this world bank fund does not give money for infrastructure, the world bank gives money for structures,

but a very fundamental conclusion is important for your topic. this is what the world bank has long stopped giving to the industry for certain types of projects. but because it only gives a post-industrial green economy. yes a this bank, maybe before the brix development bank, this is the very project that the world bank does not give, so we are more likely to deal with the creation of a large yet loose infrastructure. you don't have to drive the horses. let everyone get used to getting comfortable. we have actually created an organization in which middle- level countries sit. well, some out there beat but mostly middle-level development, located. perhaps even in the trap of an average level of development, it is easier to formulate such an international monetary fund or something else. doesn't give money. and here is this uncle,

who we had the vice president of the financial director of the new development bank, says we have completed new infrastructure projects worth up to 35 billion. you explain that this is the money that countries cannot receive, well , from the imf, that is, it turns out that he says alexey nikolaevich everyone who goes to the brix goes for chinese money. no, this is not chinese money in the bank, more or less evenly done. it is not very big, and the whale has its own industrial development bank, chinese money. they are in several places, but this is the bank. here it is for everyone and it is pretty uniform. inside there is no dominance, the chinese, there are no instruments of pressure on other sections or there is no desire for such , the chinese do not want to show pressure in every possible way. well, yes, it is necessary, they give a lot of money. you have to bilateral basis, they certainly appear just so much money. conferences, well, but dishonorably given, well , they just don't give them just the same. do you want to get some kind of influence? first of all

, there was a bilateral, so you are right about chinese money, but you, perhaps, exaggerate the brix channels for this. yeah , most of china's assistance to other countries did not go through the brix, so we just wanted to say that we are interested, as a moderately developed country. we have roughly $30,000 there. it looks like a shower, the population is at parity. uh, similar sizes. uh, a similar level for saudi arabia for the rest is two times lower, and for brazil it is china. it is much lower. south africa is about half of ours. that is , it is in the region of 15 at 19-16.000. fine. yeah it's a collective of some subtract the difference this noted then. you're the difference, how will we create? well, maybe not tomorrow and not the day after tomorrow but after some time, some

single currency brix, because how many brix have been for the last three years, probably, and at the current summit, the topic of the currency was also raised, well, almost all the leaders one way or another and the russian president, in including let's talk about it. the fact that brix needs to somehow move away from the dollar towards their currencies. the leader of almost every participating country spoke, the host of the meeting , the president of south africa, reasoned that the payment systems and currencies have become a tool of geopolitical confrontation. and the russian president needs to do something about this, just like the leader of brazil even spoke about the single currency brix. but the question is. it is clearly not in the near future to create our own currency for commercial transactions and investments between members. brix increases our economic opportunities and makes us less vulnerable just to the brazilian president's counterparts. uh, i have mentioned some points that are most important for all of us, among which i would highlight, of course, questions. uh, calculated

single currency. it's a tough question, but anyway. uh, let's move on to solving these problems. there, the strange brix is ​​already actively trading in national currencies over the past year, the share of export earnings in rubles in russia has tripled, and the share of the yuan in payments for our exports. and although everything looks positive , experts warn that countries will not be able to give up the damned dollar soon. there is currently no alternative to the dollar in terms of its reserve currency status, it may be necessary to find a replacement from 10 to 20 years, it is necessary to create an infrastructure and win the trust of market participants the other day, the head of the brix development bank and the former president of brazil , dilmorusov, boasted to the british press that the organization is already issuing loans in yuan and trying on three more currencies , the south african rand, the brazilian real and the indian group. but, and the russian ruble

is not in question with our country, any operations of the bank were stopped from last year due to possible sanctions. from the west , the national development bank was forced. suspend all operations in russia to avoid sanctions and disconnection from the international financial system, it cannot be denied that it exists, this has to be reckoned with ivan ivanovich how do you like the idea? some common currency? i understand that this is not tomorrow, maybe not even the day after tomorrow, the history of 10 years from now will form some kind of general concept. well, firstly, the national development bank is not the new national development bank, and, secondly, in fact, just this bank can be a means again. ah, an introduction. here is a new one of some kind of unit of account. here i am lending in this unit to some specific projects, the question will suit us right away. now, if they are suddenly going to, there is a feeling that they want to introduce a new currency. we

will get pluses from this, or we will rather be here. well, donors, or something, we will not participate, because so far the bank is not working with us. he is afraid of sanctions and has refused to work with us since last year, then do not forget that the very concept of brix it appeared here as a journalist. remember the crisis of the eighth ninth year. yes, he began to write abbreviations. with portugal as a pig and as a counterweight to it, they made brix, who spoke of a positive and in fact, such, let's say , political and economic association. she became a sufficient degree, casual just a journalistic term liked. so there forgot. ivan ivanovich continue on the other side. again, this new development bank , it was done correctly, it was said to be transferred,

just in place of the international monetary fund , precisely in the expectation that someday new estimated reserve currencies and countries that, in terms of their economic power, are already higher than e. big seven. they will be able to protect this currency just a matter of time. yes, it's just a question. and then i have a question - that's all that has now been listed. i did not understand for russia more pluses or more minuses, because again they said that it includes economies that are weaker than ours. then the question is on the other side. it's a big club where we can organize some kind of currency. here. try it all mirrovat absolutely right, eh! in that part that it is a matter of time to gain strength, the country must build up economic muscles. and when this happens, we can make

a logical conclusion that fear of sanctions will disappear from fear of pressure from the west, but we, perhaps then in this context. let's show up. eh, absolutely. why do i not really agree, for example, with gevorg, that this is, so, this is a disastrous thing, nothing evolves, no confrontation. gevor, it seems to me, is too one-sided about the situation in the world. we, when we talk exclusively about brix in the context of internal relations between brix countries yes, of course, uh, everyone is afraid to call a spade a spade. by the way, in the sco, too, in connection with which for a very long time they did not want to include iran there. god forbid anyone thinks that this is that the sco is turning into an anti-nat the same thing, and here we don’t compete with anyone for everything good against everything bad, we just do our own business, but don’t forget that it exists in this world. the paradigm is not the only peaceful one in which we all live here, yes, but in the paradigm western where the nato bloc where the european union where

the united states of america there is no understanding. eh, here is this horizontal line, yes , a dialogue of equals and in general, they don’t really understand how it is that someone, besides us, will develop some kind of independence and so on. they exist exclusively in the paradigm of aggressive there aggression. there's an offensive there's pressure if they feel that the threat of dollars has gone. and all we are discussing now is the threat of dollars, at least potentially. yes, i can i understand the skepticism of my colleague. here, yes, uh won't there. yes, we may face a huge number of obstacles, but for the americans. in any case, these are potential threats that need to be pushed through and when these two. eh, paradis, these two concepts collide with each other not by our will, but in any case there will be a confrontation and that we have expanded. this, of course, is a big plus in the context of this inevitable. the confrontation is not by us, which will be initiated, but the name of aga. sorry, we will not defend ourselves. and by the way, the single currency. oh yes, in context

relationship between i will add. well, uh, it’s extremely embarrassing for me, of course, to argue from my level in front of, uh, professors, yes, but i dared to risk drawing a conclusion. as for what china needs within the framework of brest, china needs, first of all, brix to work effectively. here, for it to work, china does not need, uh, to demonstrate hegemony, it needs its own there, so that it is effective. what is the effective work of brix when each of the countries is really average. do you have their pluses their minuses their strengths, weaknesses united a certain whole organism is a whole organism. it is our strong side that compensates for the weakness of a neighbor, but according to brix and his, uh, the strong side compensates for the weakness of another. will we all be chinese gears here? with such a machine, it’s good. work, i can’t argue with the fact that china is in this uh in this scheme , of course, well, we are all very far from china and

perhaps, as someone will call it, uh, we should, but i don’t see anything wrong with in this mechanism, we were parts of a slightly smaller size. and perhaps, nevertheless, the abbe a second from our work. would depend on sale of mechanisms. wait, so if it's some kind of mechanism that makes some kind of movement there, it moves somewhere, it's forward. if we are part of this mechanism , i now have a little bit other countries there. and i would like to understand. and where are we moving? that is, what are the goals of the new second of this new association ? in the short term, if de-dalorization is a question, yes, of several decades? and what can we achieve, what can we get as some benefit in a year in 2 years after three. here you can let's do it. now let's know that we

have been saying many times and for many years that the decision yes, in fact , the europeans themselves say this, that the decision of the european union is about rapid expansion. it hasn't always been beneficial. yes, look at what could potentially happen with brix . not yet. even the headquarters, there are some serious decisions so far, that this association is not a union, but a political or some other one, and the decision that is made there, they are not critical, but for countries that are they generally accepted as such symbolic or, er, such a diplomatic nature of a policy of a diplomatic nature? media and others while this is happening. at this level , it was said that projects receive money, which is the main part of loans issued in dollars and euros. yes and in yuan, by the way, less than 10% of loans are issued there at the moment by this bank. so, are you americans and do you think that such a structure is potentially possible? maybe not today or tomorrow, but at some point you will

competition or be simply unprofitable economic political somehow else, in principle, you will, uh, will you interfere with entry into this into this structure? as many very different countries as possible, which you will later, when this association comes to the adoption of some critical decisions and a consensus decision is required. yes, everyone agrees. and that's when you if you are americans and europeans and you want to make a certain balance of work and structure. that's when you use your strings. and now you can not really interfere. that is, one can say in principle, yes, we are there. it is not necessary, but do not interfere, because damn it, and then when the time comes for critical decisions, then we'll see how it votes. will they block this country, because they are not afraid that such an amount of time will pass, and they will no longer be able to pull the strings, because well, let's just say, a lot of interesting things can happen in the world. in

the same 10-20 years, there certainly is, if in 10 years, the united states will lose its status as a superpower and will not be able to operate as well effectively in the international arena, as today, of course, these calculations cannot be justified, but they are guarantees. you never know, they count. right now there in prison, in general, tomorrow some kind of end of the world will begin there, there i don’t know very important points. so the first thing is that all countries are focused on cooperation with all countries. brix does not like the unipolar american world. well, of all the brix countries , only two and a half countries. russia iran a little, china in this world to resist , therefore, no deepening on anti-american basis will not do. and the second important point about the single currency. please understand that the single currency is what i said yesterday. we showed, not a single, currency, a single unit of account. this is a kind of higher element of integration.

if you explain integration brix is ​​engaged in cooperation. these are different things. and it is clear, based on the results of cooperation, a single unit of account is the issuer, who will issue, who will determine the rates, and so on, is this an element, is it higher or not? we will develop nervously. i don't say. i started this and they are ready to cooperate. they are not ready to delegate their sovereignty to some national ability to evolve, because among the brix countries where decision-making is concentrated , there are a number of countries more than half that are against it. this a means anyone can block. how do the poles block what they don't like in europe, not yet mechanisms, but dear colleagues. i'm sorry. let's take a short break and continue this topic gevorg valeryevich be patient for a couple of minutes. not

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contaminated water into the ocean from the fukushima-1 nuclear power plant, and almost all japanese tv channels broadcast this process live. here it is necessary to remind where. actually. this water was taken back in 2011 at the fukushima-1 nuclear power plant, an accident occurred and after the liquidation of the consequences a new problem arose. what to do with the toxic water that was then used to cool the reactors , there was practically no place left for it in the tanks, and now the authorities made the simplest and cheapest decision to drain. all this is good for the ocean. for this, a special underwater tunnel was built. and this morning they launched the process of dumping a day into the ocean. 460 tons of water will leak from the nuclear power plant as part of this water there is a third is a radioactive isotope of hydrogen, the process of e proposed this discharge of water in a stretch for as much as 30 years by the japanese authorities. at the same time, they assure that everything is going very safely. and why? because if you look later at the world ocean, then here is

the amount of this very third, they say, they will be negligible, which means there is no problem. well, environmentalists and japanese social activists do not agree with this. uh, just today there are demonstrations that demand to stop canceling all this, because no one advised people. protesters with placards and drums criticize the authorities and for the fact that the decision to drain radioactive water was made without the consent of society, real data on environmental harm are hiding in a rage, now japanese fishermen. they fear a drop in demand for the reproductions they produce in the capital of south korea, a group of activists tried to break into the japanese embassy in protest against tokyo, police in south korea detained 16 people earlier russia and china sent japan lists with technical problems that the reset could cause water from focusima to the ocean, and expressed no confidence in the plan of the japanese authorities. but here in the rich in

the very rich, who for a year and a half cannot understand who is shelling our zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant on the plan of the japanese authorities. they quite approve of themselves. they say they will be watching closely as japan slowly infects miro little by little. what is the reaction of countries around ? china completely banned the import of japanese products from japan of aquatic origin . radioactive contamination and food safety threats are reacting and in russia there is a statement from the all-russian association of fisheries and its head. he assured german zverev that russian fishermen do not fish in those places. uh, where in japan? e. actually, this radioactive water gets into. but at the same time, experts note that the current in the place where the water is discharged is arranged so that it goes north. therefore, in theory, some part of the third in the direction of our sakhalin and kamchatka can reach, but andrei vladimirovich and these

money says yes greta thunberg. i don't know these people, they always tell us everything about ecology. so we have the main thing in terms of ecology. maybe she eats japanese fish and is silent. i don't know, that's why i'm silent. and by the way, the chinese, as far as i understand, announced yesterday that they are suspending all purchases of japanese seafood. everything is correct. so a little more. come on, we're talking about, uh, brick means, here you are explaining everything to me that brix is ​​not against it. and then there is the collective west. and what can to explain that hmm the brix countries now some of them they uh started to lead such an anti-colonial movement, well, we kind of develop this idea here. well, we're not fighting right here with those. who, as it were, colonized us, yes, it still needs to be looked for, who would be god for this role, and some brix countries have such unpleasant moments. in history. they are now starting to make claims against their former colonizers. well, basically, of course, everything

goes to the uk, which once walked around the world like that robustly. give us a plot please. in my group of activists from south africa , he demanded that britain return to the country the world's largest cut diamond kulinan odin, known as the big star of africa, it adorns the scepter of british monarchs. the petition, which has over 8,000 signatures, also demanded that the use of the diamond at the coronation of king charles iii would not be allowed if king charles ascended his throne, ensuring that he shows respect to those who were previously colonized and if he wants to be recognized monarch respected by the african people, for his part it would be wise to return what was taken from us in may, the reckoning for the colonial past from the british demanded india new delhi launched a whole, diplomatic campaign to return to the country national jewels worth 45 3 million dollars, which was flaunted in the crown

of elizabeth ii, the telegraph edition claims, what indian premier fashion. give him the return of the treasure. almost a priority of his policy, diamond has become a very cold and harsh reminder of colonialism, and the most brilliant thing that we have in this is located in london tower, which for the indians shines with a reminder of humiliation, was taken up by other former british colonies that are part of the commonwealth of nations a few months ago. they demanded from london to recognize the consequences of genocide and colonization to apologize, most importantly, to repair the damage for the barbaric attitude of the british to the enslaved peoples. this week , un international court of justice judge patrick robinson opined that london must pay $24 trillion to 14 caribbean countries for the slave trade, but the british prime minister prefers not to hear this and leaves

topics that are unpleasant for him. will you apologize for the role of our country in the slavery of colonialism and will you undertake to pay reparations? no , no. i think for now we should focus on understanding our history from all angles they run away. but right now, we are making sure we have a society that is inclusive and tolerant of people of all backgrounds. but i would give my grandmother to those who were offended, it would be very inclusive. well, it's more than just one. come on, alexei mikhailovich, these anti-colonial ideas, they can become something for the updated briks. well, fundamentally, rather, no than yes, because the same south africa is categorically dependent on european capital, if western companies in south africa stop, they just take it, and the south african karaka will not work there,

south africa is just falling apart, e times remember the protein now, no matter how much they can look. there is an internal struggle there. there are populists who put forward such demands, india is the same story , the current government, india is this, well , the government is close to the nationalists and in vain uh-huh therefore, from the point of view of internal, as it were, the struggle of internal support. there's a conversation with the poorest of their population. yes , but quickly, well, it is quite obvious that all these countries depend on e europeans in terms of maintaining their stability, then you need to understand that they traded, and slaves are not those who people are living now. yes, there in africa or somewhere else, and those people died a long time ago and why current people should get compensation, let's say , yes, we are doing this movement, but, nevertheless, to me , diamonds mined in south africa in accordance with current legislation with property rights. this is absolutely

correct. well, absolutely legal, uh, the property of the british crown, if these are diamonds taken out by robbery because of the same india. but that's another story. and what was mined during the colonial rule great britain but i do not see how it is possible to demand fasteners of the bowels of the country where it is actually the metropolitans who belonged to those plots of land where they were found. how did they come to belong to them ? which? what actions to consider very well understand how it all got there and whose hands? well, look, if these are all complex issues, if people unite , well, or in this case the state, which , uh, well, are not satisfied in some issues yes, in social and economic finance. here they are united. well, it's probably logical. suppose that they will try to restore this justice in relation to themselves, perhaps, and then they will somehow, well

, really consciously these, well, do not make claims, but fight against those who are now clamping them down. no, i'm wrong now or 200 years ago. i would say about now that you are saying that even now many people depend, 45 means. angelov was in control of india in the middle of the xviii century at a time when its gdp per capita was about twice that of india in the thirteenth year six times in the fiftieth year with independence six times and these 43 million - this is calculated by indian economists. losses. go for that period. these are not pebbles, pebbles, separately. this is a huge problem. there is even a famous joke. and why aren't the pyramids, uh, egyptian ones in london, because it's hard to transport, otherwise they would have been taken away, so, of course, the british museum is a collection of colonial booty. there is this endless process of the legal house that cannot

be separated, and i do not think, and this is still a problem of the two countries. u, not all countries were, and who does not blow and the problem, maybe religion is something all the time, but it's not about artifacts and even expensive ones. yes , to compensate for the lost century in development, and uh, to get money from london for this, as if brussels owes the belgian cong unthinkable. ah. the losses are simply unthinkable, so, uh, rather, if you look at the future, and the brix countries must go through a certain stage of development to help each other, first of all, they are to blame for those, uh, in compensating for losses in science and technological progress, this is still forward. and as for currencies, one small nuance, and which was mentioned, by the way, by our president. there is such an accounting currency and the issue of securitism, the main one in the world financial architect. as

it turned out over these couple of years, not even in what currency the contract is written, in the end it is particular. and the fact that financial flows are under control. they go there go there the world tank does not give to the industry. it doesn’t give at ugolnaya doesn’t give for that it doesn’t give at the power plant, if they’re good - and so on, it doesn’t give a lot of projects that are still the next 10 years, but completely green, if you leave, they will immediately be made in the countries of the big breeze let's say the big brix is ​​good, that's a good idea. and now the news is coming. in continuation of what you are talking about, sergei lavrov is now in hanesburg and is heading our delegation. he says, if i'm quoting correctly now , there is no question of the single currency right now. further, help colleagues are somehow looking for ways that do not depend on the west of calculations, that is, avoiding some western phenomena of states. a. in general, in short, there is a ministerial summit finance, how much is correct in kazan? yes, yes

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have an idea for a better stationed detective. today at 20:00 on ntv, the place where everything becomes clear. we continue as i said at the beginning. we're in our second hour. here is the one that is coming now. this one will again be such a ukrainian theme. well, with some sort of analysis, but at the beginning of the war with the news, it was today’s ukraine about its achievement in quotation marks, which today was subjected to another powerful shelling from the armed forces of ukraine, this and donetsk , adjacent to makeevka, were hit from nato caliber shells in the region of 7 o'clock in the morning , several strikes were inflicted on the kirovsky district of the city, which were stuffed with

cluster bombs. the roof of a local store caught fire after the attack. one of the buildings of the central city hospital and an apartment building also received damage . well, the kiev regime today announced its big plans for the crimea, remember such a conversation, we have discussed it more than once, which is called the crimean platform. such a form. yes, yes, andrey ivanovich fedorov remembered a lot, he paid attention to this against a lot of everything for the third time. yes, the third time the third crimean platform. here on this crimean platform, president zelensky speaks of the plans of kiev when he already wins, as it were, to give the peninsula for plunder. oh, i wanted to say at the mercy of foreign investors and businessmen. let's give the terrorist president a russian hearing. after we expel russian tyranny from our

ukrainian peninsula. in crimea, there will be a normal, peaceful, democratic life ; foreign businessmen will be able to. let's go to crimea after the decoupation, as part of the ukrainian economy, crimea will be part of the global world economy. today we are signing the first document with companies ready to enter crimea well, the verkhovna rada quickly adopted a resolution excluding any territorial concessions, for the sake of cessation of hostilities. according to this legislative act, a key condition for the end of the conflict. they see the exit of kiev on the border of the ninety-first year, including crimea. on august 24, ukraine transferred all its units to an enhanced mode of service. this is the thirty -second anniversary of the idle day, the so-called independence of ukraine in order to avoid provocations, the kiev authorities. all mass events and

buildings were canceled in advance. rbc ukraine published a whole memo about what absolutely cannot be done on this day, for example, provocations will be considered. the decision on the street of t-shirts with russian inscriptions, even if it says, well, for example, beloved dad today, the kiev motherland monument, on the shield of which the coat of arms of the soviet union was recently replaced with a trident and other iconic places, will be highlighted in blue and yellow colors. well, you can’t call it an original congratulation in another way, but answered the leader of neighboring moldavia mindu. she recorded a video message, we’ll show you closer now, so that it’s clear why we are being ironic here in this video message. in the video, she is surrounded by children who are happily waving flags inverted ukrainian , several of them and eu flags, the children sang a song to chervona, which, i recall, is considered the anthem of ukrainian nationalist groups. happy ukraine day glory to ukraine yes. so you heard at

the end sandu said glory to ukraine, except that she didn’t zigzag, which, of course, is especially fine, given the date, because august 24th. actually. today, as usual, uh , was celebrated, a different day, since august 24 , 1944, was the fifth shock army. e from the workers' and peasants' red army. under the command of general nikolai berzarin, she liberated chisinau from the nazi invaders in chisinau, officially now on this day the holidays are celebrated as if nothing had happened at all, however, since early morning, and in the center of chisinau , people began to accumulate at the memorial complex of eternity, who brought flowers in memory already victims of the occupation and all those who stood behind the liberation of moldova in the solemn laying of flowers. the ambassador of russia oleg vasnetsov, as well as the ex-president of the country vladimir voronin and igor dodon andrey, it is logical that we can return to the topic of independence, probably,

august of the ninety-first year is very rich. uh, as we understand the dates. hmm, that's where historical decisions were made. well, i'm under historical right now. uh, i mean a decision with big political implications this week. if you watch us all the time, well, almost every day every new program we find a reason. here's something to sort out from those decisions of august 1991 and hmm discuss the consequences that they brought today , just what vanya is talking about, because the twenty-fourth of august. ah, ukraine has now become, as it were, an independent state. that is, here it reminds again, yes, the nineteenth twenty. the first is the path. here's yesterday. in our program, we were just talking about how they tried to ban communist ideology in russia. yes from the second we we talked about how we got our new flag, which we are already used to. well, to be honest, and in general, we are already

used to everything that is called this ukrainian independence or the word independence. this is a rather peculiar phenomenon. but perhaps we can somehow understand it today. why? where did all this come from? the date and formation of modern ukraine is considered to be august 24, 1991, when the supreme soviet of the ukrainian ussr , chaired by leonid korchuk , adopted an act by a majority of votes. on august 24, 1991, ukraine was declared an independent democratic country by the ukrainian authorities. they bothered to find out only after more than three months on december 1, 1991 , a referendum was held in ukraine; everything was proposed

to confirm the decision on independence . more than 30 million people took part in the referendum and 90% agreed with the new status of the country. let's vote for independence ukraine gives independence for us. as a great hope for our entire ukraine, i think that over time, everything will be fine with us. at least not worse than any of the european countries. in the crimea and sevastopol, only half of the inhabitants voted for independence least willingly. only half of the residents of donetsk and lugansk regions were a little more confident in their choice; in the territory of almost the rest of ukraine, more than ninety-three percent voted for. however, just 9 months before these events, all union a referendum on the preservation of the ussr, which was held in all union republics. residents of ukraine voted in a completely different way, about 70% of citizens were in favor of preserving a large country. experts explain the paradox by the fact that

people simply had no other choice, and independence was not separated from the union with russia , and the mass mood of that time was frankly expressed several years ago by the first president of ukraine, kravchuk. and all, but thought differently. i once asked. why did you vote so actively? and they said, we thought it would be ukraine independently, but with russia, that is, they did not see independence as a separate state. you need to know this literally 2 years before the referendum in the ukrainian ssr , local nationalists again began to raise their heads. in 1989, a public movement, the people's movement of ukraine for the restructuring of people's hands, appeared. at the origins of its creation was a well-known ukrainian nationalist. vyacheslav chernovov, after 2 years, the social national party of ukraine appeared, which already then included oleg aktivnibok and andriy parubiy, well-known

according to the events on the maidan in 2014, it was then in narodny rus ukraine, in which one of the founders of this folk lesson of ukraine has been staying since its foundation, it was not just an act of one day. it was a process. we were constantly engaged, because we fed the people's rada, which at that time was already the verkhovna rada of ukraine, fed with ideas, organizational capabilities , and propaganda capabilities, many were surprised then at what speed and scope nationalism flourished in ukraine. but if you look a little deeper into soviet history, everything it becomes clear, starting from the fifty-fifth , under khrushchev, the amnesty process began, for bandera, who had been caught for 10 years in the forests of western ukraine, according to the ministry of internal affairs, only at the end of the fifties in the ukrainian sir. 25,000 thugs returned, and in the early seventies, there were about fifty thousand of them under an amnesty, then even the former shukhevych vasily kuk, after 6 years

in prison, got a former leader, banned in russia, the upa calmly got a job in the central historical archive in kiev for us. that's when they reproached, they say you cooperate with the germans, but then we announced we would fight with the germans against the bolshevik invaders for the benefit of the ukrainian state. when this story was voiced, i thought to myself. well, how are we going to have a conversation here? we are constantly trying to understand. how is it that it happened that the brotherly country is neighboring, what if this is a terrible nazi, this monster, yes, it appeared and began to spread so quickly . and here i am reading this text. and i myself come to the conclusion that this is not 2014, 2004 and not 1991, but it turns out that it was

always there, a monster always always lives there , anatolyevich was always right in these feelings of mine, or i just somehow fell under the influence of you and right. and not true. here explain in something you know our body. for example, each of us has a wand in it. koch is perhaps weakening, yes, or there is a herpes virus, when the body weakens then wakes up and the body gets sick. uh-huh yes, these phenomena are negative aspirations for separatism. not even yet nationalism. they are present in ukraine quite a long time ago, i start with those elites who turned out to be dissatisfied with their status within the russian empire and began to carefully oppose, starting with the intelligentsia of romantics who in the nineteenth century put forward the idea of ​​secession, there and so on and in soviet times, but ukrainian nationalism received the main impetus thanks to our soviet past in soviet times, they formed the ukrainian identity , conducted an educational program. this era

was fed. yes, she was deliberately fed, because that the main trend of the national policy of the soviet union was positive discrimination. we are positive. that is, we support all the national outskirts, all the national movements, and we weaken the central russian, which we feared most of all, feared about it perfectly. here it is written with documents, for example, in the telegram channel of alexander dyukov. he quotes documents from memoirs. from anything, for example, here, there is one moment that is often released, the russian federation did not have its own national communist party ordzhonikidze even offered to speak. let 's create our own in russia. there will be no cpsu in russia. and in the republic, the national communist party, as constituent parts of the union in ukraine, by the way, was even a separate polishing. here, kravchuk spoke here. he did grow up. where was he already a geologist? communist party of ukraine therefore, i answer your questions. these phenomena were there, but at a certain moment they were not fought. today i spoke with

a man who, for example, told me a very remarkable story about how one of the same soviet soldiers was persecuted. malymchuk figures who protested against the ukrainization of ukraine ukrainization. ukraine was engaged in people. very different, starting from above the bolsheviks itself, this is a laudatory soul, shelest cultivated , among other things, the ukrainian identity culture , precisely as non-russians, as completely separate ones not connected with russia. and this is the ukrainian national consciousness. it flowed smoothly. then after the collapse. well, at the time of the collapse of the soviet union, just in the national we have borders. there is a flag. there is a coat of arms. there is a population, that is, everything is there, yes, if it weren’t for e, the measures that you have just announced would not have been carried out , then nothing would have happened, or something, if there had been a policy of assimilation. forgive me for interrupting even in the russian empires and beyond. this is how it is done at the same time. yes , in the russian empire, here, i understand there was no such national movement. the question is a little closer to the russian empire , because, well, after the ninety-first year, and maxim anatolyevich was there a chance that

something would go differently and not come to a point which has come now, because from what bogdana anatolyevich describes, it was all laid down 150 years, at least before, and it had to grow one way or another, that is, we find ourselves in a corridor that was supposed to lead us anyway. that's where we are or, in your opinion, there is a moment where ukraine itself turned the wrong way, i don't know, you take a gap after the ninety- first. yes, for the game, the most interesting thing, in fact, because you can already clearly say that after the first maidan, there probably wasn’t chance. but after the ninety-first year, but if we systematically dealt with ukraine , of course, you would understand nothing like that, well, you didn’t do anything. the problem was that the post-soviet space as a whole in moscow after the collapse of the ussr was treated according to the residual principle sent there, far from being the best diplomats. those who are there in france, in america , in australia, but did not go. okay, some

retirees. and they went there, political technologists, in general, to cut budgets, and some of them supported yushchenko even during the first maidan, and those who are now such straight patriots, look. well , you prescribe the problems of the common post-soviet space with belarus. we now have a union state with kazakhstan and armenia. we now have a single economic space, a customs council, that is, not everywhere. it went bad. i'm trying to understand what happened wrong with ukraine, but with ukraine it was necessary to work many times more intensively, smartly, because the situation on the ground was very neglected. the main problem. in my opinion. why did ukraine go like this way? it is that the capital is in the wrong place, that the faces of the wrong place in ukraine if kharkov or the day. or donetsk would have been the capital, everything would have been different

, but the kiev residents, the kiev intelligentsia, were set up, but this is how they say patriotic, as we would say nationalistic , and therefore, when one or another ukrainian president came to power, and due to the votes of the southeast due to e, thanks to his promises to make russian the second official language, he ended up in the kievan atmosphere after that, and she ate him. he is here this is the kiev intelligentsia journalists activists hate this word i hate. this is a concept, and he tried to live up to it. and in the end, the same kravchuk, the former communist idiologist, the same kuchma, the former red director , immediately yanukovych to a large extent tried to comply with them. and the kyiv intelligentsia. she actually played the villain of their why now cities? the mother of cities is not lvov

. she was likened to lvovskaya she took. why for example? well, because these are the ukrainians of kiev, anyway, this is what lived in them look at him, that’s all, they were the leader of the ukrainian communist party in soviet times, but he pushed ukrainian nationalism through communist ideas anyway, because like this it is difficult for us russians to understand this. what is the nationalism of a small srednedorovich. spiridon try to explain. let's first imagine it is more healthy, i'm on your question in regards to where ukraine took a wrong turn. i think the question would be correct where russia turned there ukraine continued on its way, because we have been together for some period. well, by the way, we were moving along the cliff , you know? just you in due time with the election of the president.

putin was turned away, and ukraine continued its path and came to, uh , what they came to with respect to kiev. kiev was very different at different times of moses. and you have to understand who is who, kiev at different times was very different. well, very very different. uh , in relation to the intelligentsia, including, well , let's say, uh, in the same nineties, of course, there were also nationalists, but they the first violins did not play. i just e want you e. remind it was 2006 or the seventh year. i have already been elected as a people's deputy. and i participated in the broadcasts. there's a tv show in ukraine , yes. and i saw how the svobodovites came to the air in the city of kiev so that you could understand freedom in the city of kiev in 2006. they didn't go without protection. they went by five to six people, accompanying their own. so to speak, they were afraid that they would be beaten. well, maybe, and so

then it was in 2004 that we elected yushchenko , who, let me remind you, decided to fire two two 20.000 20.000, in my opinion, or 200-200.000, in my opinion, it’s just to dismiss employees in general , it’s just to replace them. and what do you think, with whom he replaced his, he replaced with people who were forcibly dragged from western ukraine well, right, violence is forcible. yes, people were simply taken and brought there, and, moreover, starting from the minister and ending with cleaners. you see, they flooded the city of kiev, it became completely different. it was already a completely different city. well, then , further, all this spiraled spirally in relation. ah, ninety-one . to be honest, that's when i listen zelensky's statement that he wants to return to the borders of the ninety-first year. i want to ask a question about the rating of the ninety-first year, the beginning or the end of the ninety-first year,

because at the beginning of the ninety-first, ukraine was, uh, demarcated. western border only. everything else between the republics only existed administrative boundaries. what borders does he want to return? because there are two ways, there are really two ways. there is a desire to return to the ninety-first year. and for some reason. i don't know why they have there is a notion that if they do that, then the war will end. and i'm asking a question. why did you take it? well, even theoretically, he believes that the war is over, because they will win, they will win and that's it, if they think that if they come out on the border of the ninety-first year. it happened a little bit not about this, too, zelensky. i say to dissect each time. this is his statement in the vatican, in my opinion, when he said that there was nothing in crimea. there is still no tourism. nikolaevich wanted about wrong turn, so that he somehow knows how to see more globally where the wrong turn was

for ukraine, or do you think that it was not a ukrainian wrong turn, because they normal returned here. praise them for being there. and now i'll tell you, and maxim anatolyevich had a phrase. at the very end of his speech about the fact that our nationalism. eh, he is russian imperial imperial yes, he is, as it were, more healthy, since we will tell you questions of a nationalist plan. so not alien. maybe you are here somehow try it because they have really some kind of sick nationalism is not like that. well, there should be. well, i don't know, because if well, they have some kind of ideological theory of the road. so they follow it, but there is no result, that is, it is getting worse. well then, this is the wrong kind of idea works. they think it's getting worse. yes, they say now that it is getting worse as a result

of the fact that russia has led its policy, as it has led itself and done what it did a year and a half ago, of course, worse. well , that is, russia is not behaving like that because they acted like that. they think we're like, let's get in touch. in other words, at some point. well, let's cautiously say political circles, otherwise they will now say that the people did not want this. well , the people are always something incomprehensible , political circles at some point made a bet of national value. from the point of view of healthy in quotation marks

imperial nationalism. this is incomprehensible, because being in symbiosis and together with russia is a priori considered a boon. russians at some point, well, since the 19th century, on in fact at some point you thought yourself brothers. that the ukrainians are brothers, but they believed all this time, and the soviet system of values, in general, believes that, and all people adhere to the point of view that is proclaimed from the stands. but they believe that we had internationalism and that ukrainians also consider themselves brothers. they didn't think so. this was shown in the eighteenth twentieth. they showed it in forty -one-forty-four. they showed it

. there the documents of the mother of the empress, they pinned themselves to alexei mikhailovich. here , too, you understand even earlier, why then, if they somehow turned out to be shown to them, wait a moment, that the poles will give worse. but that the poles are worse and that their orthodox identity is somehow oppressed? well, as for the uterus of the empress, it’s there, there’s just nothing good to remember, because serfdom was abolished, it was spread, but they don’t go like that. doesn't bring anything good. well, yes, there were not built at that time mihailovich of course, it’s better to sit in the soviet era, you also don’t need to establish your own world order. here, crush everyone, and then i understood everything was built, which means that the russians asked

to come up with themselves, but no one asked us. well, first of all, it wasn't in the 19th century. here is the idea that there is some kind of ukrainian or belarusian people, and they are brothers. this is an invention of the soviet government. here is the period, there is the tercentenary of the reunification with ukraine yes, when or rather even the war when it was such a concept with uh, slavs there, yes, brothers slavs yeah, so that they name someone specifically and somehow there, and i think that's the problem. mm, here's our perception. all e. ukraine are connected with the fact that we cannot understand in any way that this is such a long story. and what if the soviet government, uh, planted this population that was in the ussr on such soft drugs for analyzm, such a light, such a soviet, and international nationalism in quotation marks. yes, that is, internationalism as a whole was part of the doctrine of the communist party. but in order

to contain this huge mass of narrow people, it was necessary that the outskirts still nationalism flourished, which would be so ideas on the ally of the communist party and because, if you read all the speeches of our leaders of the line on or stalin on e. hmm all those ramps, at least halfway through. e thirties one of the main problems of the party was great-power chauvinism, but translating into russian. these are some manifestations. well, i don’t know the russian imperial consciousness of russian nationalism. there, or simply russian culture, great russian culture, as vladimir ilyich liked to say there, yes, and therefore, uh, this light for several generations, the drug has created a feeling, including among ukrainians, that they really are. and then, when there was already, uh, free ukraine and who do you already understand such synthetics, such a nuclear one, when everyone we see that

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everything is here for the sake of a common cause, everything is honest here. this is the meeting place on ntv, the place where everything becomes clear. we continue to stop. we are in the last part on a rather coherent theory of michal borisovich smolin about how the ukrainian population was still in soviet times, and then already during the time of independence and then hard drugs nationalism. but if you look at the promise of almost all ukrainian presidents over the past 30 years, when they were still candidates and ran. they are these drugs of nationalism, they did not promise society, they said, on the contrary, we will be brothers with russia. well, everyone except poroshenko will be friends with the russian language, our second language, and so on and so forth, and

then when they came to power, they immediately changed their shoes. let's see the material. in 1991, the then presidential candidate of ukraine, leonid kravchuk, addressed he promised russian brothers and sisters to protect the state interests of russian-speaking citizens, and called ukraine a common home for russians and ukrainians. as a result, the very next year, kravchuk supported the church schism in ukraine and the creation of the kiev patriarchate and launched the process of forced ukrainization , the number of schools where they teach in russian began to decline, while in the last years of his life, kravchuk openly demonstrated contempt for everything russian, scared that russia wants destroy ukraine and donbass called cancerous tumor. i have come to develop ukraine, if ukraine wants to develop, as a free state. she must cut off a cancerous tumor, which is called the donbass. on the wave of pro-russian sentiments, leonid kuchma came to power in 1994; he also

promised to give the russian language an official status and spoke about a special path together with russia . however, in the constitution adopted two years later, they called the language of national minorities moreover in the ninety-eighth year, it was thanks to kuchma's decree that the day of remembrance appeared victims of the holodomor, and the events of those days became presented as genocide of the ukrainian people, and already in 2003. kuchma presented his book, ukraine is not russia among russians, i more often than among ukrainians met people who were burdened by their work and therefore did it poorly, a long life under the roof of one empire, where the russian a person lived with the feeling that all of his homeland led to a sad ending of all the nations of the former ussr, the titular one turned out to be the most non-communal, and ultimately less optimistic than the same ukrainians. petro poroshenko, who came to power in 2014

it’s hard to name pro-russian politicians, but he still promised to end the war in donbass and unite the country, apparently as part of this association, under him , russian films and books began to be banned in ukraine and massively change the names of cities and streets that refer to russia or the ussr ukrainian . the people are ukrainian people, and all of ukraine is entering a new historical era. this event marks the final break of ukraine with the russian empire, and of the ukrainian democratic world with the authoritarian russian world. farewell unwashed russia surpass their predecessors in hypocrisy. only terrorist president zelensky succeeded in promising to bring peace to the donbass and curtail the total screening of society, most of the country believed, but a year later zelensky signed a law on the liquidation of russian-language schools in ukraine, and they began to fine and persecute people for speaking russian on the street. wherever russia goes,

the rule of violence is established. we will establish the rule of law. russia has isolated crimea. and we will return the whole world to crimea. alexey gennadievich turns out to be a little connected, because if a society is infected with this, the whole is addicted to the drugs of nationalism. it was not supposed to perceive, which means russian and ukrainian are brothers for a century. it should have been completely different. as far away as possible, as quickly as possible , and so on, but they promised to promise as close as possible, and then all this nationalist transmission. how is it that this person is so drugged to build this theory, in fact, i’m a short digression here, but it still means that novgorod captured kiev in the 9th century or in the tenth. yes when it was, i mean, we can’t discard it, and besides

that, there was still a wound, or something, he drank cool, therefore , orlik was there there are all sorts of danila galits, otherwise they don’t know anything about it. here are these, which are all there. and it’s impossible, it’s good for us, then vanya’s question is even more relevant, if all these eagles are shmorlis in their blood, why do they first vote for a candidate who says, i’m with the russian maximum close to our times, and so to speak, my favorite trick is to refer to vladimir putin, who also said that ukrainian nationalists of the 19th century and the beginning of the 20th century have always advocated, so to speak, a close alliance and close relations with russia , the russian president spoke about this. absolutely absolutely accurate. and before the program, i watched korchinskiy's performance at the end of the eighties, in my opinion, or the ninety-first year of korchinskiy. he says that we are in close connection with the don cossacks with the kuban cossacks. we remember how

korça was one of the uh, stubborn ukrainian nationalists, but when he came to moscow he gave competition, there were also various harms to the news and strikes the outer era and society guy, there and all sorts. so it was he who said speedovich we turned off this path, they found us and here is the key story. we did not allow them, for example, to the parliament, and we did not use the nationalists as a strong tool. in what cases in ukraine was nationalism used as a tool when the donetsk dnepropetrovsk oligarchs were arguing among themselves, and in ukraine nationalists were used. actually, uh, he fed them, the west, of course, we know and remember this story from dzerzhinsky, so to speak, ukraine from russia is the key task of the western ukrainian west. but this is rather an answer to the question of the previous part, when they turned

the wrong way, but still a bulk question. how do you answer why the paradox is such a paradox that people still hoped for close cooperation, because the economies were linked, because everyone understands perfectly. no, no, if it didn't work the first time, it shouldn't have worked. after when we talk, we talk about one of the two ukraine specifics of ukraine that there were two ukraines look at the maps of all voting nine regions of the southeast, they voted differently than 16 regions of the west that is why, unfortunately for ukrainian nationalists, up to a couple of times, well, before the change in the status of crimea, they were in minority. and now, purely demographic, that other ukraine , which has a completely different psychotype that did not want to, and it was small for the majority to separate from russia; this changed after crimea, because 2.5 million inhabitants of crimea and sevastopol - it was

tagilka after that is already a purely demographic of those who would always vote against us became more, and before that they had to in order to enlist the support of these fifty-five percent of this. the majority had to pretend to be something, and then again, moving to the capital, it was very big. ah. they made one mistake. wait, alekseevich, no. wait, please, alexei genovich. wait it. i understood with this, i’m not going to do everything well, but zelensky doesn’t fit this formula anymore, there was no crimea, and he has 73% votes, but because the earth because zelensky voted for zelensky and the nationalists, including everything was different there. no, all 73% who voted for zelensky, and they wanted normal with russia , all nationalists like you at the

nationalist factory. those who voted for him believed, on the contrary, that poroshenko was traitors to the ukrainian cause, because he had a lipets. let's start with the russian budget. bogdan wanted to answer your question. that's the one . here, uh, we just discussed it. and why has it grown in 150 years, why hasn’t it disappeared, there and so on, because earlier here in the 19th century. it was a tiny sprout of this hogweed sosnovsky yes indeed. if they were engaged in it, just cut it off and filled it with salt, it would disappear. it would have been symbolized at the beginning of the 20th century, if not for the revolution, not for the first world war , the bolsheviks did not come to power, but if you artificially water and propagate. yes, it breeds, so it just happened, it was a frail little unpopular magazine again in the 19th century , it lasted less than a year, because there was no no one subscribed to him for money, and so on. as for the ukrainian population , people live there are russians, but playing in the elections in ukraine is like coming to the casino to place bets every time, hoping that you will win at the casino. moreover, every time

here they showed a bunch. this is a very good president from the point of view of demonstrating the ukrainian nationalist idea, firstly, ukrainian nationalism is always first of all the parasites of the desire for secession, and then everything else is tucked under it. story made up there and and so on, kuchmar also said at a meeting with students a wonderful sacramental phrase ukraine regardless of what we would have received. now we need to create ukrainians. this is the essence of the ukrainian nationalism of the ukrainian elites , the common people. he has nothing to do with this and is manipulating ukraine, it was necessary to create ukrainians. let's take another break, yes, just a couple of minutes. the british are preparing to remove zelensky did not tell where and what money and where they went. how many doubles covers the head of the kiev regime, where is there a bunker in which he is hidden? well,

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europe or there an overseas partner will help us and the second is worse than russia. better they imposed on us. uh, a vicious national idea that is not inherent in ukrainians, and all ukrainian authorities act exclusively as uh anti-russian force, with the hands of the current government from ukraine, they made such an anti-russia for themselves and now, uh, for some reason, the main function of the state has become a demonstration. this is the anti-russian orientation of ukrainian politics. now he has fallen, what do you say, i just wanted to say about this, that the peculiarity of ukrainian nationalism lies in the fact that it is not based on love for one's motherland and on an understanding of what needs to be done and what can be done for one's country. she hate the stranger. this is what we base this one and the second in relation. ah, the national idea. and in general, uh,

the ideology of the nationalists. actually, they had an idea. so i think that they had absolutely no idea at all, that’s the whole problem, that if they had independence, first of all, fell on their heads, so unexpectedly that they didn’t understand at all what was happening with this side need to do you showed a bunch of what? i'll just remind you a bunch of people came to the podium already being president and said deputy. tell me what needs to be built and i will build it for you, because he himself did not understand which is not very clear to me. why are you several times stressed now nationalists. yes, i’m trying in general, who knows ukraine very often and for a very long time, he has been there many times, maybe this will surprise many, but in fact, the nationalists are classical nationalists who were in ukraine, they opposed nato and against integration into the european union. they believed that it was necessary to ensure the security of their own army, to develop their own

production, and so on and so forth. it is then already those who are those nationalists who in in the fourteenth year they played the first violin on the maidan yes and between freedom and so on. you read their statement before and after that then they began to waver along with the party line of the washington deception. but in fact, before that they were opposed, so they never had their own nine. i agree with erinat kuzmin, who says that this idea was imposed on them, both anti-russian, and about european ones, and so on. and the vast majority of people in relation to it. if someone here wants to argue with me. the water of the people who always wanted to go to europe i just remind pro-european politicians about european politicians in ukraine came to power twice once in 2004 through an unconstitutional coup. i mean, yes, yes, and the second time in the fourteenth year, and both times they came to power in a non -constitutional way.

tell me if the whole ukrainian people would like to join the european union and nato, whether it was necessary to carry out such coups in order to bring to power those who came out with these ideas to this people, of course not, power. it is now the second question is alexander nikolaevich and that's it. you 're still here's the idea, the national ukrainian independent one way or another comes down to anti-russia, or again, it should not have happened, let's say that's how it happened. as a matter of fact, that didn't happen. at least before the annexation of crimea, remember the situation in autumn 13, when, uh, yanukovych tried to sit on two chairs. here they told lukashenka to sit on two chairs and at the same time refusing to retreat to the customs union, nevertheless sign the relevant documents with

europe and what they did to him then, they twisted his arms and, in fact, the dissatisfaction of the ukrainians began with this, when it was rude, uh , carried out, but he tried to intervene in them before you say he did not try to turn ukraine into anti-russia before that subscribe my theory . why are you anti-russia, why is it necessary in order to carry out, as far as i remember, ukrainians sometimes we even have money, yes, even if which is somehow not remembered now. yes, everything was done. everything worked fine , interruptions began, uh, in a serious relationship, uh in economic relations, and in connection with this so-called pandemic. here and uh, in connection with evolution. e state ukraine under poroshenko in your opinion there was no anti-russian russia

no, right? well, here we will try in different ways , this is what the time of alexander. sorry, the time has brought here. integral immigration that appeared on russian mass media pavlovich a short pause now let's summarize listen, i have something bad. premonition

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they lied to themselves when when well, in the literal sense, because they went out there. we did not know what, as it were, as soft power. yes, soft politics, they were stolen. is n't this a lie to ourselves, and they came here, reports are all so much spent so much, so to speak, everything invested should pay off. everything must beat. isn't this a lie to oneself, and it is also important to respect, so to speak, originality. this one is also important, and then everything is definitely complicated, so there was an originality that they are money everywhere. we also andrei mikhailovich luhansk christian andersen has such a work. no, it seems to me that this is a wonderful illustration of the relationship between russia and ukraine; there are scientists there to walk his shadow, which rebelled against him and wanted to, in uh, take his place, forcing him to serve the shadow. it seems to me that the phrase that hans christian anderson wrote there is a shadow know

your place and after that the shadow returned, but to its owner. this is the slogan in which we should treat today's ukraine in popular historical literature. popular not from the point of view of some kind of grandiosity, but popularity from the point of view of the surface of the approach, and therefore large circulations, is such a special genre. here in. and what if and what if the attempt on hitler had succeeded, and what if the carriage with lenin had been stopped, and what if the giant mada spanish had not fallen into a storm, and there the authors still come to the conclusion that yes, some there would be small changes, but in general , the processes were not started by one specific event. i'm here for this letter. i might about the national idea, maybe i'm mistaken, a ukrainian got to a jewish wedding. well drank, i don't know how he got there. don't ask me about it. well, i got it, it means i drank it and looks like that. eh, eyes running. post is looking for bacon to eat. but no fat. naturally, he says, and where is the fat, then? and the jews say, but we

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