that's why you're shooting at this monastery. what goals are you pursuing when you hit the monastery, the church, the temple, you hit. what kind of goals are you pursuing military goals, no, these are not military goals. why do you want to kill these monks just because they are there, and in the orthodox church they serve for this, you want to kill the monks, listen, well then, tell me, guys, yes, that we have nothing to do with christianity at all and that's why we are there i don’t know, we are demons there, we don’t understand who, therefore, we beat, and then it will be clear. but, when you talk about the light, about the pure , about how kind, good and democratic you are, and so on and so forth. in doing so, you do. that's what you do and dance in the cemetery, actually beat the churches. but this is just some kind of frank evil, which should simply be destroyed by another reaction, in a normal person. it simply cannot be, only such a reaction can be, and therefore i am sure, of course, no planes to them. maybe for a year they

will give some planes, maybe the americans will teach someone. maybe i am i admit. although you know, this is also not yet a fact, no planes will help, and in any case, they will not succeed. they won't have any second counter-offensive, they don't have the resource for this counter-offensive. and here is how our army will behave. we 'll take a look soon, and then here's michael himself. we will return to the issue of odessa when we comment on what will happen on the front line. that's it, we meet exactly in a week in this studio and remember that all participants in our program have their own, we will always get to the bottom of the truth yes truth. military space race is real, well, where are your companions? let 's live in russia for a long time in business, this also applies. well, let's move on to the shock phase of this. well, as it were, this is a politically deadly capitalist world in a clean chistogan. they are already leading to orbit. then on

a distant planet, a slight manifestation of any conflict in space. he starts on the ground. the russian space companies cause a lot of interesting things to happen to him. in general , no one has gone on to live like this, and hear we're not done yet. hello this information board program. i am vladimir chernyshov who owns the information, owns the world. well, the world owns fakes and manipulations, but sometimes you just want to look at the starry sky and remember the glorious past at the height of the cold war in the fifty-seventh, the soviet union used the most powerful technique of soft power launched the first artificial satellite of the earth , now this is one of the russian words rooted in other languages. one small piece of metal the size of an air bomb did more for soviet pr than the propaganda department of the central committee of the cpsu did in a decade. here you go today the cosmos has become the new territory of the struggle for the influence of no romance. we are dividing the orbit so our recent western

partners and the information war insist. it goes beyond the limits of the earth's atmosphere in our program , we will analyze these false truths, separate facts from fakes, so that we can stay with you on the bright side and not succumb to the false message we reflect. in our information shield hostile information shield how romantic to dream about distant worlds, remembering the smell of library books from childhood the soviet science fiction writers, in these books of the soviet science fiction writers, taught us to dream of a worldwide brotherhood in the search for new worlds. somewhere in the andromeda nebula predicted the noon of mankind in the 22nd century, but somehow noon has already slipped through humanity before. now everything is bigger. it's like a late evening

going into a dark sunset and yes the cosmic raptures are gone from behind the news headlines. the romance is gone. search the cosmos has become an extension of the earth. all our sins. we are spreading there . space began to divide, not unite, as thought soviet science fiction writers 57th in orbit was one soviet satellite. now , according to official data , more than 11,000 devices have accumulated there. remember, in the nineties, after the collapse of the ussr , shipbuilding was deprived of aircraft, we were told that it was too expensive to explore space. it should rich countries, but move over the russians was still a famous meme, reflecting the situation gagarin helmet. the inscription y. forgive us all, well , the space industry, we still had enough to keep. no wonder we were the first in space and you will hear. we haven't missed everything yet. and if they missed it, so what is now being actively launched into orbit, in addition to useful for life earth on steam, for example, top-secret inspector satellites in orbit

, they are engaged in surveillance of other spacecraft. they can intercept data, if necessary, get close to disable other people's satellites, and this is only what is known from open sources, such satellites are an inspector, and russia and the united states do not know the exact number, because military secrets, in fact, any satellite on in fact, it can be a dual- purpose device such an all-seeing eye in space on american television. this was clearly explained by the authorities in our cameras for the first time they were allowed to enter the joint space operations command center in colorado springs where the united states monitors and records any launches of warheads and missiles around the world from the war in ukraine of chinese military exercises off the coast of taiwan to this launch of a russian satellite and how quickly can you find out that somewhere in the world something has been launched, we have a very good cosmic potential, which allows you to almost immediately understand that there was a launch.

this is the latest satellite that detects the thermal light from any rocket launch on earth of its size, in reality a satellite about the size of a school bus. this is part of the current cold war. it also goes in space. it's kind of like playing cat and mouse in space. well, that is, leave him alone in space at least a little bit. we would be vulnerable to the missile potential of the enemy. after all, our so-called partners. they are nobody are waiting. even at the height of the cold war, they used the space theme in the information war against the ussr and won in the mid -eighties at the peak of star wars movie popularity. us president ronald reagan announced that his country was developing a program called the strategic defense initiative, which immediately became known as star wars. it was the first attempt in history to bring a weapon into the planet's orbit. reagan said that the program was defensive, but in the information war. it was a direct and accurate blow to the soviet union. that it was a bluff no program

the united states spent money only on its advertising, but in the ussr, just in case, they believed and increased defense spending immensely, which, at low oil prices of that time, quickly drowned the soviet economy. well now times are a bit different military space race, a real space arms race. i am sure that space is a new place of conflict, and we also have crazy actions in this space, and we have countries from highlander and there are new hybrid attacks, but in space also came. private business, it is the merchants who set the tone, because they quickly realized that the launch of a rocket of satellites. the case is all lucrative private the space company of elon musk, jeff bezos and richard branson, is already taking tourists into space. but it is so, of course, more entertainment. here, the main thing is the profit goes there government orders. we all understand how it works. remember, musk promised the whole

world to provide fast and affordable internet, so that even in the jungle and antarctica wi-fi would be and began to send packs of satellites to orbit and liberal ladies and boys. even we were delighted and the caps just did not throw up air. what darlings what a romantic thinks about humanity, tries for people. well, these romantic satellites for mankind have flown into orbit. and now the pentagon is being handed the starling system of ukraine so that this connection can be used in combat to strike at our army and our cities. starlink is the backbone of ukraine's communication especially at the front where almost all other internet connections have been destroyed, but we will not allow escalation conflict that could lead to a third world war. this rhetoric is a mask that betrays his sense of helplessness. he understands that he can’t do anything anymore, because the us government decides everything for him

, whoever orders satellites dances them. we do not allow starlink to be used for long- range drone strikes. it will be a curse if you don't stop if you don't stop it will be a curse. well, in general, the complete helplessness of the bloomber agency confirms the pentagon has concluded a contract for the provision of lubricants starlink network services for the needs of ukraine the us air force and space force are the backbone of the ukrainian operation, providing air transportation, know-how in the field, logistics, transferring artillery and ammunition combat vehicles anti-tank systems and air defense systems providing missile attack warning reconnaissance from space, maintaining communications indeed, no other country in the world has such a potential of support as ours, of course, from steel, our prospectors have been taken out of the game for many years, however, we are coming out of this cosmic sleep. understand,

that if we don’t catch up then, as they say, stalin is self-righteous, but there’s no harm without getting sanctions cleared a clearing for private russian start-ups and projects that could not break through the bureaucracy before competing with western giants competitors vladimir kobyakov vladimir yuryevich is now joining us how are we expecting a real star wars soon? by the way, are you a romantic or a pragmatist in relation to space. you will romantically look at the stars or look after your wives on the moon. no, i'm more of a pragmatist, so on the moon for now i don’t look after the plot for myself vladimir gennadievich yes, but if we return to the star wars strategy of the eighties, then if the big powers return to it, it will most likely, first of all, be included there, the states and china, of course, have not yet at the level of the first persons, but still sends signals, the american constellation of satellites interferes with the interests of china, they say, china itself will now launch 12,000 satellites.

beijing has methods. if necessary , launch american satellites. out of order and so that's what china's claim is like this called medium-high orbit here . satellites have all the leading countries about 40 chinese satellites 32 us gps satellites the european galileo system has 24 satellites a comparable amount of russian glonas there is a lot of space here. and if all the satellites are added up, then there will be only a couple of hundred of them, we are descending into a low orbit, there are already devices much larger than the upper part of the low orbit , there are already hundreds of satellites of the british oneweb project, plus they plan to place the devices of the russian future sphere program in these parts, and look now lower altitude area 500 km. already now the starling is teeming and dominating here. china also wants to launch its rival group of thousands of people here, and the european union has expressed a desire to place its project there. iris two. it's

already tight here. well, you will probably have to work with your elbows, which is what they say in china, what it specifically offers. how can china deal with this? well, let's immediately see what articles came out in february this year in chinese media how it reacts elon musk here is the headline of china plans to launch 13,000 satellites to overwhelm starling elon musk, yes next, spacex should not have time to capture low-orbit resources, and the chinese project, codenamed gw , will provide internet services and can monitor starling and carry out missions against it. before that, a specialized chinese journal of ballistics astronautics rocket posted just such an article on the impact of the starlink constellation on situational awareness and countermeasures in space. moreover, in chinese special magazines , such articles appeared a year ago, when starling began to play, well, one of the important roles, so to speak, in the fighting in ukraine, what musk answered when he was asked about russian anti-satellite

tests and chinese threats. well, here are the words of elon musk from his interview in march last year. if you try to disable starling, it will not be easy, because we already have over 2,000 satellites on

and the ceo of sr space will add that his company has grown from space startups, both rocket and satellite, and processing services satellite data. yes and here dmitry stefanovich at the table is a researcher at the center for international security with the tools of the international world economy and international relations of the military economy and innovation. including the spheres of his interests are space military innovations of extraction. let's start with a question. yes, from such that the situation around ukraine has shown that any civil space infrastructure will be communication and sounding of the earth. there is internet. yes in an instant it turns into a dual- purpose structure, and even a structure military-strategic purpose. yes, and in

the peak of the discussion over the past year , such calls are already being made. why, let's move on to the shock phase of the near space, in general, we are going to this for now. or how it all looks. a very fair assessment, a very good question, but in fact, if we look back , let's say that the cosmos was originally dual- purpose. yes, any space infrastructure. she was dual purpose, of course. before we actually had real space exploration, there were some idealistic views on what space is something for the benefit of all mankind, then the appearance of the first satellites, which, as you know, were launched on a rocket, designed for completely different purposes. now, uh, it became clear that the cosmos helps to conduct combat operations very well. on the ground. not to mention all sorts of things related to intelligence with communications for military purposes. well, directly to ensure, uh, fighting . and what is happening now as part of a special operation. how, in principle, as

it is believed, were carried out, including some cyber attacks on space infrastructure on both sides and so on. eh, here, but, of course, everything cannot be drowned out. is it possible with kinetic methods? shoot down all these satellites so that the enemy loses this opportunity, but theoretically , you can probably try. but will we have time to shoot down faster than to build countries will quickly bring out new ones, this is a moot point. and what is most important, we depend on space no less than on space, after all , civil infrastructure also depends, and , accordingly, my personal opinion is that until today, everyone involved in the assessment they understand that there will be more pluses and minuses from the transition of the cosmic anti-ascending phase, because how to do it in such a way as to take away everything from the enemy, and not to suffer yourself. so far, no one has figured out how to do this. the shock phase is close in the lower space, or we will avoid it fan card. this is an electronic service for the safety and comfort of attending

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did natasha koroleva go down the aisle again? you won't believe it on sunday at 20:20 on ntv oleg what do you think, the shock phase is close in lower space, or we will avoid it here, probably it is worth saying or starting with the fact that most of the space industry, it is just related to maintenance those needs that exist on earth, this is remote sensing of the earth. this is both communication and, of course, such infrastructure or such resources or opportunities. they can not be involved, and for various kinds of conflicts in the game, there is such a political or geopolitical confrontation, but we are not yet observing active ones in parts, and the phases of the earth space are now it is rather, but in terms of

some statements and some experiments. yes, we are confronted with tact and other methods of suppressing the work of technical apparatuses. but it’s more likely to be scientific or experimental for the time being. that is, massively , this is a conditional line; it has not yet been crossed. well, none of the parties crossed it, but at the same time, we are more faced with problems associated restrictions on working with data on the purchase of data among devices on restrictions on supplies to electronic component bases. well, that is, uh, this confrontation is now in a less u such an obvious hot phase, it is more in the field of economics and in the field of business and business processes that the stalinist side uses no matter. now there is a company of state-owned civil companies. yes, oleg buy any

satellite image. yes, conditionally for the purpose of evaluating. uh, harvesting wheat on some farmland is civil yes but no, there was no guarantee that this picture would not end up in the hands of the military, who would evaluate it after a while. there are traces of military equipment, columns of some incomprehensible objects, that is, here the line between civilian and military infrastructure is blurred. yes, by and large. we see it now, it just depends in the active phase. yes, it depends on what you have. if you just buy data, then as a rule, you can initially, for example, what we encountered is that they don’t sell data outside the russian federation, that is, we don’t we now have problems with him about the territory of the russian federation, uh, well, let's say, we are now outside. and if we have our own spacecraft, of course we can redirect them. ah, we can, and there determine the e zones, and the work of the shooting zone. e, in fact

, what is used for emitrological purposes or there climate change. it , including, may be applicable for a-a, to put it simply. for our audience that's what he you say, what we have, what we have. what stage are we in now? at what stage are we catching up how far behind we are. what are our prospects, because i read, for example, dmitry's speech, his articles. there, a rather gloomy prospect is drawn up to the creation by our so-called recent partners of entire constellations, that is , constellations of satellites that can jam. it's all electronics. there are ours and so on. we are now how vulnerable. yes, i can only repeat here, uh, or quote the words of yerevan chebarisov, that in fact we overslept or called it, and the transition to mass production or mass production

spacecraft and the number of vehicles that we have now, but in our orbit it is catastrophically small, it is not enough to perform many tasks, because now the so-called operational monitoring is very important, and constant communication. can only provide grouping or constellations. that is, if you have a total of, uh, four or five devices, uh , remote sensing of the earth, then you cannot provide high-quality and timely services, so now we are talking about how russia can create a mass the production of spacecraft to move from some, but single copies to serial production. vladimir, i suggest, uh, to watch a short report with oleg mansurov, we met there literally 2 months before february 22, and we did such a report about russian space startups. let's just recall what we said then in the report. a space

startup shop in an ordinary moscow basement here , the production of an idea, startup oleg mansurov , has already attracted about 3 million dollars 100 kg for the first stages of development, yes before that, in russia there were dozens of similar rocket startups and disappeared in russia, it always has this normal feeling of shooting six years ago to create an orbital carrier of one of the first russian private rocket projects ended and, in general, work stopped.

now it was possible to interest investors, then. it was almost a sensation, the money was given by the developers of the famous game world of tanks . there is a hit right in the air, what a risky step, but the end of this startup, almost put an engine test? emergency at the training ground with wounds received by a person who illegally made his way to the training ground, long proceedings, a criminal case, precisely this engine. that jerked, then, but from the destruction we underestimated. this is an unsuccessful test, but it is not a tragedy and not a tragedy. there, the rocket startup survived and went to new tests on small prototypes. this is the size and a half. yes, a little smaller, that is, on prototypes of this size, we worked out the control system of a large rocket since then alexander ilyin has changed several times,

investors and a startup periodically put on there are about 300 such startups in the world, but only now a nuance has arisen. and what about the market for orders for the delivery of satellites by light rockets, if the regime of trade wars and sanctions has begun in the world? the project of oleg mansurov , the world situation forced to reformat his plan and his rockets and his services and his satellites. here you can see the so-called losing electrometer, which analyzes greenhouse gases. uh, these emissions are horizontal in russia. now there is simply nothing to count and there is no one to monitor them from space. we could fix them example somewhere in the leningrad region, but in fact they come to us from norway ah. that is conditionally thanks to these two devices. this can be calculated from where the greenhouse gas came from too complete a picture, and for this you need, just a group of more than one classic apparatus for the first complete private cycle in space in russia wants to attract 50 million dollars, but so far it has found

only four. and here is how the leaders of both startups answer the same question, and if our team fails in russia with other states, european asian asian, if people in different countries have it , then why can’t it work out in russia oleg and you have such a question in the spring of 22, you described the situation with your startup. so the main investor said that we are all already in space, not up to investing, but actually on the balance sheet you had debts on salaries on rent on loans and you were close to bankruptcy. so it was all true sanctions in our case, we almost do not shift, because we are a very small business psyche. and if we talk about the situation of 22 years, of course everything to describe it exactly the challenges he faced. and, of course, everything had to.

uh, in manual mode, change very quickly to adapt to external circumstances, but just around september , and we already started receiving orders from last year, and to understand at the time of the beginning of spices , more than 80% of all space data that is used there in the sector is there were data in the main. ah, and american, we, respectively, began to look for domains from satellites in other countries, and due to this , we were able to practically survive and even type, then there is. the previous year turned out to be more successful for us, and in the previous two years, oleg came to you. uh , conditionally some officials. after all this situation, after february 22 they did not apply. here with this, well, where where where are your companions. let's talk about where we applied and the situation is as follows, that if we were able to close the issue

with data plus or minus up to six months, then when we say that it takes one and a half to two years to launch a spacecraft and the text of satellites that our potential customers need. we are told no. no, it's very long. and the time goes, that is, in fact, we contracted. uh, last year, then at the end of this year we could have, but something to launch. tell if you look ahead. we are in space, at least in near space. we are going to this option, when some kind of technological coalitions of the near space will be formed, including western countries, of course, both near and far, and the construction of the moon and other celestial bodies is also happening and there is, uh, still trump’s project of the artemis agreement, when the countries actually us allies and partners they line up in a single block in a single rule recognize the single rules of the game in their own way. she is near the lunar space. and that, in principle , is a kind of gap in international law. that is, in principle, here they

actually usually form order in order. i apologize for the tautology of the rules for using this space, as a rule, the extraction of resources from there. the chinese and i don't seem to agree on a moon base. it is possible that this cooperation will take place, but such a discussion is underway. everyone wants to go to the south pole the moon is conditional, because there is some water seen. yes, it is possible, yes, where the base is more convenient for the location and there are already deals. who who where should land fly? here is also a question. uh, because again from the trophy of competence. let's just say this happened not only, uh, in our country. here in the usa, too , heavy missiles continued to suffer for a very long time. here, china of course, i apologize for suffering longer. yes, but on the other hand, here, returning to the topic of the space renaissance. not so long ago, we set a record for the number of living people in orbit. that's because it is also connected , including rivalry. and in fact. perhaps this is not so bad already, this rivalry with elements of cooperation. it gives an additional incentive to development

is called a chance. it is necessary to complete the optimistic note. and we have already left uh automatically went to eh. hmm, an optimistic note that everything will be fine with us. i think we have always overcome difficulties as best we could, we will overcome them once again. the harder it is for us, the better we've done it's hard in the economy to manage the situation in space. we are trying somehow to press, but it will not be possible not to answer. yes, i'm right. absolutely. thank you. well, on this optimistic, but we thank our guests and say goodbye to you, dear viewers in ours take care mainly of your mental health, only that in the first place. only the truth. find out, including from our program, goodbye.