hello this is an information board program. i am vladimir chernyshov who owns the information, owns the world, and the world owns fakes and manipulations in our program , we will separate facts from fakes so that we remain on the bright side and not succumb to false promises. you remember how last year, with each new package of sanctions, there were restrictions on the russian economy. after all, we were promised that russia is about to plunge into technologically and digitally up-to-date. let's understand what is actually happening europe of new information. and she used to be an obstetrician in one clinic, and today he manages the entire european union, a certified doctor for the female part is a good one, apparently a specialist, but he has become. chipa, at least crying at least a mixture of ursulu, said that

the washing machines delivered to russia to parallel imports already pose a threat to ukraine and even to the whole of nato, it turns out that the russians are taking microchips out of them, filling their missiles and other terrible weapons with them. well, the russian microchip is over. they have the orcs in their mordor. instead of asphalt, forest paths, bears apparently walk along them. here they drink the russian army is taking chips out of dishwashers and refrigerators to subdue military equipment because they no longer have semiconductors. russian economy torn to shreds bloomberg picks up ursul and explains in detail to readers that the sharp increase in imports of dishwashers from washing machines, even breast pumps to armenia and kazakhstan, is proof that russia is dismantling these electronics for spare parts for military needs. well, in general, the end of russia is close. well, there are satellites, space ships on this russian,

maybe more is enough. but the microchips are over, at least buy new washing machines. well , here's what the gynecologist talks about microchips. this is normal for europe there in germany, for example, a philologist. khabib is the author of a book on the nature of the novel. he deals with government energy issues. it seems that the nature of the novel, that natural wealth one bullshit, well, with microchips, the seriously and washing machines, we can’t take them out, but the problem with their import substitution still exists. we trusted you so much, comrade. the west, as it may be, did not believe themselves. well, they relied on the global economy on the division of production on mutual trade exchange for investment other good and light from europe , america was so believed that they almost destroyed their aircraft and shipbuilding were hampered by domestic electronic developments. well , why should i invest money if i cannot compete with digital giants? well, all of a sudden, once we were turned off. it turned out to be turned off and

not the light. it was like a flashlight in a manner, they stopped supplying us with electronics of digital resources in order to weaken our defense industry, first of all, well, a year has passed ukrainian propaganda assured last spring that russia had missiles at home and nothing else to produce. she will not be able to in the conditions of sanctions, well, a rocket, that's all they fly for some kind of ukrainian business. you are on target the russian economy is demonstrating a steady growth in gdp, if in january the international monetary fund predicted growth of three-tenths of a percent, then in april it adjusted to 70% on a par with italy and france well, you taught us that the global economy has the division of production in your chips we have energy resources and metals. well if you don't want to share your good with us, we won't share yours with you . in response, russia stopped supplying taiwan with inert gases necessary for the production of microelectronics. not he heliorgon russia , by the way, provides a third of the world market with neon. by the way, the united states wait for taiwan not

to send microchips to china, that is, the west not only throws russia, but china too. but, for example, apple did not refuse russian rare metals, which are necessary in the production of computers and smartphones. this is also done under pressure. american government. but after all, the gathering, who apple is not in america, in taiwan, in china, in india, and now apple is learning from russia to live under sanctions, is arranging that parallel imports buy our metals from the chinese, but for a long time they said that a world open in the economy and in the internet, if it is open on the internet, then mankind will know, only the truth cannot be hidden , no more secrets of wars can be hidden. here's the whole world in the palm of your hand, yes. well, what about the internet has become a huge field for a new information war ? it is easy to hide the truth in half of the fakes. news. in the queue of trifling half-rights always looks more convincing than pravda, as in the words of ursula vonderlein, yes, russia is slightly behind in the production of microchips. take

them out of the washers and put them on rockets. this is an example of a half-truth dressed up as a lie. he creates a rather ridiculous image of such a wild russian colossus on clay feet for the western layman. this is how the information war goes, but still the question remains how much truth there is in the words about the technological backwardness of russia, digital sovereignty, then i i can say that we have already achieved it. that's because almost all foreign companies have left the market. we are now left to our own devices, as the information war is turning into a world technological war. we'll talk with vladimir kobyakov now. well, vladimirovich. yes , it's been going over to the world technological market for years. naturally. let's rewind there three or four years ago, then everyone was excited. there, the butting into 5g of the public plane and the area of ​​big politics, the struggle for influence in the field of 5g resulted in trump, then it became clear on the market that the world sales leader is the chinese huawei and the swedish ericsson and the finnish nokia are much inferior. by volume in the world

, american companies simply overslept this race. as a result, trump launches an economic attack on huawei and offers european companies to enter american concession. by the way, boris johnson resisted for a long time because the british had a lot of contracts with huawei, but in the end, trump convinced him to crawl away from the chinese during trump, they tried to convince other european leaders. but then no one really wanted to meet trump, they teach, given the strained relationship. now, with biden , technological sanctions are hitting the hands of both russia and china washington technoblockade. first of all, it pulls up the countries of the g7 and moscow, beijing as the leader of dismantling microelectronics, is blocked from access to microchip microchip technology, in fact , every day there is news that chinese companies are prohibited from investing in the production of us chips in germany in holland in japan in various cases on the deal impose either a government ban, or convince the owners themselves.

abandon deals in response to a month in china's trade is working on a report that considers different options. what to do with lithium cobalt and nickel? this is exactly what is needed for electric vehicle phone regulators, microelectronic elements for the green energy transition and china for a whole list of these rare earth metals. the leader in the world is something that is mined in china, many more come to china for processing and then for export. and now beijing is threatening to shut down sales of these metals to western companies. china, of course, has used such rhetoric before, but now there are times when today is a plan, and tomorrow is a reality and nothing can be ruled out and all these blows are likely to lead to a clustering of economies, when large centers will have everything they need in microelectronics communications it - to do it at home, and someone else to choose the rest of the country, and here vladimir viktorovich had to think. and here, and whether russia will pull such technological sovereignty of microelectronics. or should we go there such dependence of china the most important question

that now must be answered, first of all for yourself. in general, communication transport digital services will suffer. to what extent will they suffer or all the negative impact can be somehow leveled, but at the expense of what their parallel import technologies need to be thoroughly analyzed. today, in our studio , a person who knows almost everything about russian equipment probably starts microchips and ends there with some big servers. this is oleg valerievich izumrudov. he heads the association with xd such a difficult name, in fact, it is an association that unites enterprises that deal with russian processors with russian servers, that is, with russian hardware for electronics developers. the first question is directly on the forehead, what is happening with microelectronics right now. this is a collapse of a catastrophe, then we slowly emerge and swim. how can we run after a departing train or really microchips, as she said

, we steal courses from washing machines in order to put everything on rockets well. here, like a skating rink. well if, probably against such a high professional. uh, someone probably knows her areas of the corps, probably she knows thoroughly. here. well, it's probably there somewhere. mined according to microchips. and what about reality? well, in fact, everything is not as he says, tursunov is not as they say, uh, western experts. eh, well, and here in the main it is not the way it is presented in our, probably, there mass media. uh, hmm, we're not catching up, but the present moment, yes, but we could run fast enough, and we're not sinking. we e right to us, probably, the expression we pop up is enough. well, let's put it this way , sharp promptly, that there is not enough air. yeah, there is, here we have such hyperbole. yes,

again, as it were, we started later than we would like to start. yes, here vladimir gennadievich is a soil worker, including a technological soil worker. somehow, we even had a fight with him about what he says. now there comes a time when everything has to be done here. i say, well, they say, we must take it better and use it, and then with regards to that. the uniqueness of high technologies and microelectronics, well, it's impossible to do everything here, it's impossible to deal with natural, well, economic microelectronics specialists, and with a liberal education. here, let's listen to the phones now a second. here they are my phones and so it means, see this conversation with vladimir gennadievich, we hide the iphone yes, we open the iphone, you can break it. this is the sixth iphone that we will see there. yes conditionally elements. there memory will be somewhere japanese for the first time iphone battery battery, not even developed

battery. there are different ones. yes, there will be china or japan or even gyroscopes, there will be italian and italian french, so some chips are a wolf there. yes, this is an american plant, but uh, not a plant about an enterprise, but the factories are located there in austria in germany . yes, we can do it. it's not a secret. they also announce, for example, for the twenty-first year, and suppliers for apple are 540 production sites around the world. of them chinese 150. this is china american sites. there is about 50 indicated, the united states m. and about taiwan is also 50 site. everything else everything else. these are 30 countries. that is, we succeed, how can we do this microelectronics here. and

so it was with this that we began, that we are too late, we begin to work. and yet it still held back. as i understand it, it is immediately development, because if everything is already being produced, why do we need to disassemble samsung ourselves. yes, they say that south korea is large localization, yes, that is a lot of things are produced there, but let's say there, even if we take some kind of processor, there is a graphic one. from the built-in, which was developed by the norwegians, and this is all owned by a company headquartered in the uk and this company is owned by japan is assembled. most likely in india called its globalization throughout. uh, let's say a certain paradigm of the last thirty there , relatively speaking, we were just trying to be. yes of course, and uh one of their own slogans, which uh was that we have oil gas, respectively, money. well in this separation. yes, we'll buy uh-huh if it's worth quoting the first person. ah, and therefore , thanks to, in fact, such a position, and

the majority. well, let's say officials, and entrepreneurs, so to speak, did not see prospects for developing everything domestic, as it was in the soviet union. the soviet union produced absolutely everything. the russian federation , let's say. so it went down all the time. sectorally, it reduced not just the volume of production, but the types of production, that is , industries, that is, it practically consists of -3, where industry is present, in fact refused? yes, because. well, of course, of course, yes, so we were shown the path, and we even follow it, yes, listen, the same thing happened to microelectronics. when well, we will never make our phone. it's clear? what is it hmm well, not exactly now, but for example, five years ago. would i agree with you well? well, we all heard and read. yes, that there were domestic processes of domestic development of elbrus baikal uh, that is, uh, the developers are in russia and assembled them

in taiwan yes, and showed the help tablet to the president. let's deal with this processes. they seem to be russian. well, this means ivana, they don’t collect all the sanctions. that is, we will be able to collect elbrus and baikal somewhere now. so it will be replaced, of course, but for obvious reasons, when it is still kept secret for odessa political reasons. yes, it will be the territory of russia or not? hmm, perhaps, that is, in the near future there is hope that domestic processors will again appear in large quantities. we're talking big because, well, i take it tens of thousands there, perhaps now produced. yes, but the greater the amount, the more directly the volumes that are needed, and in for our market, yes, for security. yes , uh, the so-called cybersecurity is, of course, already the number

is much larger. therefore, we are talking about hundreds and thousands of millions of units, because the domestic consumption of the russian market for microprocessors. this is about, m-m differently fathers. uh, that's from uh three and a half to 6.5 million units. that's it, well, we bring it in, or let's say mobile phones there. so device mobile connectivity depends on this statistics. well, you know, now you are saying things that are probably a revelation for many, because we existed all the paradigm of what you remember back in the late eighties, we were called the upper volta with rockets at the beginning of two thousand, russia is just gas stations, which just shakes. what if we somehow have rockets flying and somehow satellites are launched. and it turns out, uh, microelectronics exists, yes, that is, we, as it were, are still becoming certain sense of sacrifice. uh, well, such a black barley country of course yes of course look like, uh, central sliding

control let's say. so high-class specialists work there, including in the field of pr and marketing, when it is definitely necessary to give them their due. but in fact , it turns out that the monitor there is a gas station , a gas dispenser, but also grain products, right? uh-huh column for the production of e-e a large number of elements for microelectronics. here you have dismantled it, but i can show what elements of the fatherland are there. what's the way yes? this is an interesting example, please, only we mixed together already, yes, not a problem at all. actually, i'll show you right away. here is the glass. this is domestic. yeah actually. this is sapphire aga stavropol plant, stavropol plant. mono, crystals scary mystery. e, if you really directly study in detail here it is on this board, for

example, but the system board, for example, uh, all the substrates. well, on which well, on microelectronics, completely on mobile there , let's say, the foundation directly. uh. well, for example, on a large percentage of the skin, which are allocated. quite a lot of heat is used just at the first substrate. well, er, a monopolist in the field of production of large plates. i mean, uh, uh, for example, russia holds 40%, uh, of the world market for the manufacture of artificial. e sapphires in general, but in the field for the field of precisely microelectronics. that is, for this you need large plates, that is, 300 mm, for example, plates. here, that is, here are such , uh, that is, 100%, o strangely enough , they arise through the fault of a person. stop and defeat the fire. the call is strong, forest

the firefighters of the protection air force have been growing for 90 years. on guard of the forests of russia, the ice maker was sent to investigate the murder of girls. with the support of the investigative committee of the russian federation , that the researcher for especially important cases, the main department of st. petersburg, especially important cases. misha of your general was found in the apartment by billions of criminals. i understand you didn't mean to kill anyone. well, why didn’t i really want to, and now i want especially brave researchers. i believe they arrested that killer now at large.

today they did not come empty-handed. yes, just ah. let's ask then for such a dangerous load, so as not to break things carefully. it's much more expensive. now this is rubbish. well, yes, if i'm here, uh, we said, uh, under uh, to the operation. let's say there are a large number of foreign companies there , including one, but this one is domestic. what is this? yes, this is this motherboard for the service of data storage systems. this is actually the basis. it's just built around everything. this is completely made in the russian federation data for these huge docents, so to speak, yes, this is what the data processing center of the russian states looks like.

here, here, we have data storage systems here and here. as a matter of fact, here are all the secrets here. elbrus processors, for example , are used in data storage systems, which are now produced and operated in large quantities by us, including those for the very same video surveillance cameras for control. hmm, let's say the operator's control, that is, the yarovaya law 374 of the federation, there are elements here. they are russian. no of course, no uh, passive elements. there are domestic passive elements. eh, there are also foreign passive elements. ah, reactive elements. here here, for example, this is under foreign processes. yes done. why are the enumerators

there, that is, this is the substrate. what is a fee? here is what is green, you see as a basis. if you think it's easy. here is such a substrate, then no. it's there 16 layers of them and between them all, uh, conductors. uh, develop it. yes , the process is very complicated and it is a very difficult process to make it. er, it's no less difficult. how to produce, for example, an uh microcircuit is good and we used to use, respectively, foreign. there, not not not 90, but 99 and 9 at the start of the recording, they said that bookmarks can be made into this substrate. yes , there is no substrate, not quite under the boat, for example, e in the controls and e, the base start and the monitor. ringa can bookmark, right? that is, it is good when we used western substrates, that is, cases of bookmarks. there were

cases and there was even a leak of information, and it was not the only one. for example that pension fund was stolen. for example, you can ask the ibm server that is, the data they used the pension fund and there was a leak. it was recorded in england . a short explanation about suspicions of hardware tabs in imported equipment was said in 2018 in russia and the industry believes that it was these scandals that influenced the government decree that stimulate the transition to domestic research. by the way, even earlier, china accused some american technology companies of hardware tabs to spy on beijing in the interests of the us intelligence services and then the states in 2018 filed claims against chinese companies that they also used hardware tabs in the interests of the special services. in china, these mutual accusations are not only a sign of a technological struggle, but primarily of an economic and political one, there were other leaks. some public others have not

become public, but nonetheless. they have been repeatedly. so, well, look. this is how much we can now produce such products, how much we need and how soon. in order to increase production how much do russian producers cover? uh, and this is exactly the server boards that are for the storage server, for example, this is the edematous raid controller, yes, which turns, for example, this is the server into uh, including the storage system and when connected a lot of storage items. it's all domestic. uh. these people there 5 years ago could only dream of this or they said that i would come to you in 5 years. and you called me a dreamer. yeah, i wouldn't believe it either. yes, they mostly talk. well, here it is now the reality, again, again thanks to the sanctions , it would not be sanctions to speak to them again. we are not sitting here. we sorted it out there, and i'm with you only iphone

yes, uh, russian people always have something to customize. so, they will somehow be on what was and where it is poor, right? yes, we strain, but we go fast. there is such a feature. look, now we are talking about dozens. eh, thousands. yes, unfortunately, not millions and tens of thousands, but for the needs and critical information infrastructure - this is already is it enough to meet hmm let's say the demand of everything there, for example, the year of the sector, yes or corporate laws. i think that this is also interesting for corporations to ensure their security, they are dependent on foreigners, for example. so partners. yes, of course , mmm, but you need to start something in the first place. uh, secondly, uh, this is already being done, production is expanding, that

is, the plant is now working in 3 shifts. that is, this is indeed a reality and domestic production, as it were, is growing. do you know who? we are now in line for this product. here on yours here lies yes, a foreign company. what foreign russian interests are those who? uh is very closely following what is happening in the world. yes because of the western countries you mean strange. let's get out of uh, in general did not like, uh, the eighties to the seventies such a movement is not joining. you know, this second one is relevant. it is now relevant again. yes, because i'm not talking not only about the strange, which is the same as the russian federation under the sun. yes, if we have initials there and there iran will speak there they say a word about north korea, yes, and then no. i'm talking now about countries that are quite hmm big, first of all,

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