you are proud of radu and nikita zabrodin ntv television company that's all thanks for being with us. today in our program finally received, the chip wars in china introduced the iphone killer as beijing managed to achieve a technological breakthrough in the conditions beijing demonstrated very advanced technologies boiling point the white house re-arms taiwan how long will it endure, china and when will the war start? give us ammunition, and then we ourselves and his game god forbade russian athletes to participate in the asian games. not is it time for us to finally withdraw from the olympic

movement. competition just in case , watch right now. hello, is this the meeting place on ntv, the place where everything becomes clear? i'm andrey norkin. my colleague is ivan trushkin. we are working live. today we have wonderful topics science and sports. everything would be great. if we didn't have to spoil them with politics, but no politics. where are we now, but we will start with well, in our such informational news block with a rather mysterious history, and the manifestation of the us secretary of state, blinkins in kiev, i made a reservation. i specifically said manifestations are not appearances. now, if you have ever been engaged in photography, i was fond of photography in my childhood in the red room. quite rightly, there was no photo to enlarge or youth with such a big big head. and so, when you use the healer, then

you put this white piece of photo paper into a cuvette where the developer was poured and right now you are gradually showing this image. damn, well, it showed up. that is , he seemed to have arrived, and they even began to talk about it. to report, but no one saw where he no one understood. why did he come? well, how many hours have passed there since the morning. now it seems to have manifested itself. i’ll tell you now, so first, uh, eyewitnesses who simply walked along the kiev streets entered the case. they began posting photos online, and the streets were blocked. well, they began to draw conclusions, that someone, then pinned, then. uh, ukrainian publications, some began to confirm that, damn it, king was in kiev, but again , there were no shots, then some journalists. ilya ponomarenko posted a photo with and footage with a blinkin and a dog patron.

this is such a sapper dog, which they have there a symbol of e, demining programs, but rather quickly, e , everyone established that in general this is footage from a year ago, because in september 2022, damn it, he also came to kiev in conditions of such increased secrecy and before afterbirth. there is no information about the time on the website of the office of the president of ukraine, but blinkin didn’t have it while driving. well, the first to lift this veil of secrecy was cnn, which, on its own site published a photo of blinkin. here he is in such a sweater in the style of myritere, it looks a little like zelensky, he sits and works with documents. yes, they say that this is a compartment of the train in which he left poland on a dark night heading towards kiev , according to the same cnn, citing its sources , blinkin's arrival coincided with an air raid alert in kiev, which was canceled only at 7:00 in the morning. that is, this is a mandatory program for distinguished guests of kiev with sounding e, alarm signals were immediately executed clarifies that blinkin is to meet with ukrainian top

officials including zelensky’s terrorists who is to personally inform the secretary of state of the withdrawal of the ukrainian so-called counter-offensive. kuleba, published both photographs and video footage together with blinkin, and indeed, a very interesting place was chosen to meet there. well then publish these photos. here we see here is not very clearly visible, let's go entirely. let's look at this cemetery, a cemetery near e, kiev, it is called berkovets. actually, blinkin was taken there to honor the memory of the soldiers who died during the military conflict, later from these cemetery stories they went directly to the press conference. mr. secretary of state said that he was pleased to be in my house, and i replied in all my sincerity that my house is your house. i've been here before

all to demonstrate our continued and resolute support for ukraine in its fight against this aggression. we are seeing good progress in the counter-offensive, which is very encouraging. we want to make sure that ukraine has what it needs. but about this cemetery story of andreyevich there, ukrainians are already saying that this is part of the mandatory program. now, that is , any visitor of some politician, a guest of the first or second magnitude, will definitely be taken there, to look at the tombstones. ukraine has everything you need. here he wants. and that ukraine is interesting to have a conscience? i don't know independence is the same. let's postpone ukraine for today. well, maybe we will periodically pull it out into the light of god but independence in various manifestations, let's first talk a little about such independence of the technological ah, the chinese announced that hmm well

, huawei has released a new smartphone there and, uh, such an interesting one has begun competition, as it were in the press, that is, some say that all this is proof that china some completely insane technological breakthrough has now been made by a technological ah absolutely independently of the united states from the western world. well, this means, and so on, and economic independence, and every every every other. is that right, is it here? it 's just that a lot of things are calling us and telling us what the western press writes about the chinese economy, in general. we'll talk about it a little later, then we'll talk. let's start with this phone call. last week, chinese electronics manufacturers huawei introduced a new smartphone, which the local press has already called a technological miracle. it is claimed that more than 90% of the phone's components are made in china itself, including the heart of the device, its processor

, 46 local companies participated in the creation of the smartphone among chinese citizens. the novelty made a splash. people lined up in huge queues to buy it, and the americans followed it closely last week. this phone caused a real stir in the chinese market. it was possible to create a phone according to a new advanced one. technologies. the chinese press claims that the new smartphone provided beijing with victory in the us technology war. most importantly, it has new five -nanometer chips made in china, allegedly not inferior to advanced american developments against the background of this news, the shares of more than a dozen chinese chip manufacturers, as well as huawei suppliers dramatically increased the american press in other matters. doubts that beijing has succeeded in a technological breakthrough device purporting to have 5g capabilities making it the first such phone since ever since huawei lost access to cutting-edge technology, the firm has so far kept quiet about the origin of the chip inside

its new smartphone, and we have been unable to verify the authenticity of these reports. last fall, the us imposed the largest sanctions against china in 10 years and banned dozens of chinese companies, including huawei, from supplying semiconductors and chip manufacturing equipment in a way washington tried to block china from accessing key technologies. at the same time, huawei is under us sanctions, in 2019, the company was banned from cooperating with firms from the united states, the decision to include huawei on the list was of national security importance, the company is closely connected not only with china, but also with the chinese communist party, the bans did not stop in the same 2019 , huawei went into the production of microchips, having received $ 30 billion from the state, as the press wrote then, the company organized a shadow network of enterprises to circumvent us sanctions, and last tuesday

, reuter reported that china would create a state investment fund of 41 billion dollars. stimulating the production of chips is not just a goal to survive in the face of sanctions, but to catch up and overtake foreign competitors in terms of technological development. so aleksey sergeevich is it possible to draw such global conclusions, but on the basis of such information , conclusions, of course, can be drawn, but what conclusions really? she gives us. surrounded by, that's the american world order that has been established. i'll explain why yes indeed china uh, huawei was able to make this chip. but, what is the peculiarity of this doubt. we now see already open. these phones are users. they are already there, they are breaking all sorts of things before our eyes, which is the main thing you need to know. the fact is that these chips are produced on such large wafers. well, there are a lot of chips on one plate at once, when these chips are released. it turns out that by well-known western companies it turns out that on one

plate there are 10 chips , nine of them work, one is broken, yes, well, simply. well, yes, marriage, just such a defective people, such statistics. they say that in these chinese types now i to say that if i buy a dozen from the store, one must be broken. no, they are watching. and if i take 10 bottles of vodka, then so on. above the water the fact is that when the chinese release their chips, they have only two working on this big plate. that is, what it means, it is possible to release, but it is unprofitable to release, but they still release. where does this lead us? yes, i don't understand it. you amazed me with the depth of your knowledge of chinese products above, but this does not stop them, so wait. yes, what is a high percentage of marriage and such, how is it, the guy with glasses said, uh, yes, advanced technology. in fact , the process, there is nothing wrong with that, when you invent these technologies, at first you

have a large percentage of defects, then it decreases when the technology improves. i mean, china is now ready to spend huge money and produce these chips, despite the fact that it is unprofitable. why because the policy puts pressure on china, it was very convenient for buyers to buy american chips, american smartphones, without developing anything of their own, and this it was very convenient to the americans. but now , when this convenient world order, they began to use it to clamp down on the political , to put pressure on china, to put pressure on russia , the countries began to say, and if we go on their damn route with our own, we will spend. i say, because you directly put everything on the shelves. how long do you think it will take to have on this record here with its chips , at least nine at least, yes, at least eight, well , let nine still be, so that given that china showed an incredible result thought that it was possible at all, i think for several years, maybe

two months, this is completely observable. the most important thing is that politics is now more important than the economy , and people are ready to invest in their economics, we would not raise this topic. who is here all the rest at once come on, alexei nikolaevich, about the fact that in the world about the percentage of marriage is 10%. this is not so in advanced industries. uh, the level of marriage there program we are talking about advanced technology, it reaches 80% there. that is, two working from ten is fine. so, if we talk about the sovereignty of china, then we must understand that we will take r&d. yes, expenses for e, science and development, so, if at the beginning at the beginning of my working career as a locksmith, but two what percentage of marriage would be if i operated with such figures like this? i think that i had shortcomings, like five, probably meters, that is, advanced chips are very thin, then there, if two out of ten work.

this is good, but look, then, do you agree with alexey sergeevich’s conclusion, no, if not now, well, through them there in a couple of years in 20. let's see, then, if we talk about innovative development in general, we must understand that china's share is going, that is, spending on science and development. this one is the largest in the world they have with the americans, but in any case the whole steel world. more, and much more. therefore, if the chinese managed to achieve some serious breakthrough here , one must understand that in general, as if technological progress, china is still one of the countries in one way or another dependent on the rest. and you do not consider the sanction factor that they even in such conditions achieves. here is the result. yes, it’s understandable that this was done there by investing hundreds of billions, and china’s total spending on the development of electronics there, there are different estimates. they're up to a trillion. well, if

you take something here for a long period of time. well, yes, if we invested a trillion dollars, we would have the same five-nanometer chips , which means, if we talk about china's overall dependence on the global economy. yes it exists and on speaking of addiction in general from the rest of the world, the key dependence is investment, maybe a little later. i always wanted to bring something else, so nikolai nikolayevich in my childhood was told that who vladimir of deformation, he owns the world. now they say who knows how to make chips, he actually owns the world, because these very chips are in our phones in our sound in our light. here only in our studio these chips. i think 500 nonetheless. if china has learned to make them, let them marry, but does this mean that everything that technological sovereignty is such a very hackneyed word, it has been achieved and china as a whole can technologically divorce the united states to act as it is necessary politically, without fear of technological consequences. e yes,

well, firstly, but i doubt that this is a purely chinese development, which arose in a vacuum. in general, when you really know how much i love the chinese, so suddenly you have some doubt, but when you remember that huawei, which at the beginning dragged switches from hong kong, copied them there and i sold, and then accidentally bought a very large developer of a canadian technology company and your technological growth, in fact , this is where the story of this huawei economic miracle began, so here you need to look for who sold these developments to them. and when we talk about the blockade of the united states , the united states is not the center of advanced elitistographic equipment. this is the netherlands the netherlands have mastered the subway nanometer process three-minute and so on and so forth, most likely we are talking about that the us sanctions are full of holes, they cannot influence the european union, primarily the netherlands, and most likely the chinese have found access to the european union and the european union completely. you just

made a slightly different recipe, the chinese did, but it turns out they stole what is now what, that is now, so the chinese can easily develop bypassing all these sanctions. and what they actually achieved. this is known for sure, 28 nanometer process. it's all home appliances. these are cars and so on, that is, this one the first class of social problems, when they had their microchips closed, and they had a country. this can no longer be achieved in this regard, sovereignty is achieved that the americans want to limit their competitiveness around the world, here the chinese cannot do without europe. therefore , these huawei achievements are most likely due to the fact that some european companies simply transfer their developments to them, so that they themselves completely begin to copy this process , a very long whole, huge, in fact , it will be comparable to the atomic project in beginning here from the twentieth to the middle of the twentieth century. that is, they will need two five-year plans of 5-10 years. then really up to eight five-ten 20 we have one. maybe victor has some other figure for the task, because

again it was in comparison with the nuclear project. ah, the work of our intelligence officers in the united states, when the united states was ahead of ours in the forties, did not prevent our scientists from doing excellent work and then simply borrowing and implementing it. the fact is that china has e in the current situation. there is simply no other choosing how to strive for the maximum level of technological independence, i would not call it complete technological sovereignty. it is unlikely that in our time it is completely so possible, but what happens to the maximum technological independence? let's compare the situations in the relations of the usa and e to russia in relation to the usa to russia and china if the european allies used the united states as a pretext for starting such a large-scale full-scale economic war against russia first and the return of the crimea and then their own, then in relation to china china did not conduct any military operations , did not annex any territories, that is, there is already

a direct history of american sanctions and american pressure on canada on its european and other allies. it is exceptionally and quite so straightforward political economic political. that is, they are afraid that china, e, has significantly increased and may increase even more significantly. maybe their a can represent and already represents essential. let's say dynamically, so a challenge to american hegemony, so they introduce these sanctions. uh, the trends are absolutely clear to everyone, including in china, so the chinese, of course, will use all available opportunities. here, nikolai nikolayevich already correctly spoke about what it was and how the soviet union was in the forties and fifties and then today you would be a success, well, really, you would call it success, as if it were all of them at the beginning of victory. yes, in the middle or already close to the victorious finish, let's look at this story, what was beneficial to china. if only the chinese, if the world

developed in a way that would be beneficial to china then, the relationship of foreign economic relations. uh, relations between the states and with europe would develop in the same way that they have developed in the last 40 years. here are the modern ones. that was china's advantage. they could, and even receive these technologies, those scientific developments. some of the west are legal, some of them steal there, let's call it that, huh? at the same time, they would import, yes, but, let's say, everything would develop. it would be beneficial for china, but contrary to their wishes chinese zaz is to blame for the situation, so it will act now. this is a combination on the one hand. they will invest maximum financial resources and their own efforts in the development of their own. actually scientific potential and take, and maybe illegally from the west from europe from canada from other countries. everything is clear to one, but science is not limited to everything. you said it yourself, a trend. it is clear to us that the trend is clear to the chinese with sanctions. for them , many experts will not be easier. now they say that china is trying economically not technologically, but

arrange economically. well, if not a divorce, then a very strong cooling by the west, as far as he can do it. in mid-august , the chinese press reported that beijing was selling off us securities, reducing investment in us government debt, with journalists emphasizing the timing. now it is not an easy geopolitical tense, and this is a logical step; now china has more than $ 800 billion in us ious. this is the least in the last 14 years, tensions between beijing and washington have reached a new level. level. experts believe that china is likely to further reduce its holdings of us government debt to protect against currency market fluctuations in parallel with china squeezing out american big business. just this year, the boys and fines hit several defense industrial companies and the largest microchip manufacturer from the united states, micron technologies, they are forbidden to buy and sell anything from china and the american accounting firm, minsk group. the chinese

authorities issued a $1.5 million fine for the fact that the auditors filled up the nose, where not should illegally collect data. arrests and searches took place in the offices washington is not guessing, china complicates the situation. i told china very clearly that we need the patience of american business is running out. it needs a predictable environment and equal conditions, and it deserves, and as if in response, progressive western publications unanimously sang the song of the chinese economy. soon it will be tight on wall street, bloomberg journal and other financial. times set up western business. there is no need to deal with china, supposedly. growing unemployment. among the youth, farmers save, and in general, beijing is rotting against the backdrop of flowering western gardens. beijing is moving onto a slower development path earlier than we expected, china may never be able to consistently pull ahead to claim the top spot

as the world's largest economy. in addition, weak domestic confidence is growing and could lead to a prolonged slowdown in leonidge's growth potentials. you actually told us in the pre-interview. that's about this warrior. you and i are independent of each other, because i look the american press. and we don't compete. it's me competing with you, and they are trying some kind of divorce. i do not know a long-term quarrel. what it is. let's take the parameters in china, so in the ninetieth year china had a gdp of one and a half thousand dollars per capita, and now it is 18. well, one and a half billion. there was a billion-100. they came out on 40% of us military spending. that's a lot. we had so many in the late eighties and all the nerves. they are impossible. you see, those who were 20 in the nineties were only 50, that is,

this whole technique is made by people who have already studied in the 21st century. this is a very young science. they can't physically start to have been there for 50 years, so ah. they reached a phenomenal level last year, and their trade balance of exports was 3.6 trillion. import 2.7 dollars, yes, that is a difference of 0.9. wait, i 'm so afraid that you will list it . here, ah, but on something you need to grow, you need other goods, therefore, this thing with iphones. well, or how it is in a smartphone. yes? and this is first competition. this prestige could be some area of ​​the future artificial intelligence of military technology. yes, but it is also a trade in them. where did she go? well the ocean has some other products there. they they

try to create. uh, the next stage of the goods they will produce. they just took over these 3 years and broke away once again from the whole world in terms of size, which means, like , yes, i wanted to say, well , it will be economically bred by the western world, or it will be something else. no, they cannot disperse, you quite understand that we are in a figuratively, it can be called a divorce on earth looks a little creepy 800 million billion, they have invested in the house, yes, but the positive balance of the americans, nonsense, 100 billion quarter. i mean, well, close to the members. it’s necessary to sell it there; from there , they buy a little something. there, including there , it doesn’t matter there, that is, you understand at the level of normal economic these same ties. they all get divorced physically impossible. this is what i wanted but i was trying to achieve this answer. here on the advanced

sensitive, as important and so on comes it's time to translate, uh, your discussion in a somewhat simplified style. so, if you think that it is impossible to get a divorce for some kind of legal reason, you wait. no, i’m talking to you now billions of fish about divorce , about collapse, he says, it’s impossible to get a divorce, which means you, or maybe a situation will arise when no one will ask you much. a divorce will happen between you and your partner, so i'm trying to understand, so you strapolilied me in front of the program , that's all, now we're different financial times like troops. what is it, what is it some kind of misinformation is not misinformation, it is an attempt. uh. i think to translate the consciousness of western society and the world into the fact that you are not afraid of the whale, but it will slow down. this

is not the case. i see a picture when medina is already two big countries, they tell their people they are trying to ward off that the american western authorities of their investors from china that the chinese say we don’t need all this. this is, if not a divorce, then a big quarrel or preparation for times. of course, or i'm never again a fool, i don't understand politics we have been determining the economy in recent years, so what is happening is the echoes of politics and the examples that you cited from the point of view of chinese sanctions against american manufacturers. these were retaliatory sanctions on the actions of the americans against chinese companies of those sanctions that china is great. this does not speak of any divorce. indeed , it is simply impossible to place the situation on the knee, because it is pleasant. whether someone likes it or not, we live in a global world to be 100%, uh, everything, importoses and being 100% technologically independent is impossible. not a single country in the world can do this and an example, and

it is not ocd that confirms this with spending. just do not swear, decipher not windows, scientific researcher design work, which means, uh, science. yes, i think that and who told you that we are talking about such a kind of divorce, where will the partners be in different mm. it may depend on the time and when one is choking the other. you say there is nothing here. i don't say that. now now e is happening intensified competition. and when victor spoke, he gave an example that china and america had been walking together for a long time and could, in theory , get technology to develop there, but the problem here is not even in politics, but in the fact that the americans do not need a competitor to the americans, china was beneficial as a kind of base. well, conditionally screwdriver, so the markets are everything else. and this is an objective process, that as soon as china began to claim and bite off pieces in the market in the global market, respectively, to the americans. it became unprofitable, so they began to do so

it won't be a competitor. so you asked a question, and china is located. at what stage at the beginning at the end of which it is a continuous process and stop means a step back. do not overestimate, of course, the news about the chips. it's true. this is great. yes, it's great, right? image, right. yes, this is in terms of a product that they will sell cool, but this is not a 100% solution to problems. and besides, we don’t know the nature of the fact that the chip may be on parallel imports through turkey. i’m joking, of course, so now we'll break. they do not convince me that somehow a divorce is impossible, nothing is impossible at all. it's just so incredibly unlikely, but wait, we're taking a break now. now we will take a break a little bit , we will intensify, we will deepen this whole topic, because i don’t know, it seems to me that absolutely any unpredictable can happen in the world. yes, yes examples short pause back

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the meeting place on ntv, the place where everything becomes clear and we continue this informational part. let's start with forced confessions about the british ministry of defense, it took exactly a day in london to admit that in ukraine the challenger tank delivered by britain, which was entertained by london, was really lost, as absolutely invulnerable, impenetrable, indestructible until today, not a single challenger tank has been named losses in battle and here our guys in the zaporozhye direction of our military soaked this account. i can confirm that this is the first loss, according to our information, we handed over to ukraine 14 tanks and we recognize that in the war zone there is a place for material losses, exactly this happened. i can also confirm that six ukrainian crew members survived.

will there be a new one? no, we have already sent 14 units, but we are in close coordination with the ukrainians and supply them with far more than just tanks. it was extremely curious to see how our colleagues in the british press would cover this news, because when the footage appeared, if you remember leopards in ukraine, then the british press endured all this on the front page, procrastinated, and so on and so forth. what do you think, how many british publications have put the news about the downed challenge on the front page, but i will name the answer for you not one of any of the buildings, so some. well, for example, yes, either the world or the daily star did not mention this event at all in their printed versions. those who told they posted it somewhere in the basements, as they say, and they took the words about the destruction of tanks in quotation marks, they say, perhaps, perhaps, it was only damaged. perhaps he not destroyed, we note in fairness that amazing objectivity was shown at the bbc by interviewing military experts. the publication concluded that the footage really

featured one of the british tanks delivered to ukraine and it could not be restored, the guardian published, citing sources. restored the painting. actually, what happened to him according to their information, first the challenger was blown up by a mine, and then he was hit by russian artillery. the fact that after the artillery strike the crew members survived is very important in terms of evaluation the quality of the tanks is important, because for the first time we saw the direct work of the challenger in the combat zone. but the british edition of the icon of places is clearing up the consequences of the scandal and the interview that the journalists of this edition took from valentin nalyvaichenko. remember there was such a head of the hut, so they dug him up, and he told them a lot of interesting things in an interview with the publication this character, who headed from the future in 2015, said that just in 2015 a special unit was created within the department to eliminate collaborators

collaborators in quotation marks, and we are talking about the fifth sabotage department of counterintelligence of the sbu , to which the murder of key commanders of the donbas givi motorola alexander zakharchenko is attributed, the publication published a quote from nalyvaichenko, where he directly says, here i quote. we reluctantly came to the conclusion that we must destroy. people ended the quote later , apparently realizing that the meaning of the phrase is openly a terrorist publication, iconamis has changed. now it sounds like this, we reluctantly came to the conclusion that it is necessary to neutralize the terrorists, the publication noted, that nalyvaichenko was inadvertently misquoted. andrey ivanovich's standards of journalism yeah, let's get back to our story, so we settled on the fact that i did not agree with this formula derived by our guests, that divorce is impossible, but on the other hand, everyone agrees that, of course, there is no union anymore. would have been gone for a long time. ha-ha there is already an active

exchange of blows with sanctions. such a sanctions war, but if we are talking about relations between the united states and china. if you watched our program, you remember, you know, that many, many times, including the participants in our program, they said that this sanctions war could sooner or later turn into a very ordinary war because of taiwan, of course. in recent weeks, the us authorities have been increasing the pace of arming taiwan at the end of august, according to reuters, washington allocated $ 80 million for the purchase of weapons for taiwan, and a little earlier, the state department announced the supply of ammunition and equipment worth more than $ 440 million in early september , attracted delegations of american congressmen to the island. they promised to speed up the military supply and even protect taiwan in the event of an attack on the island, the president, the king knows that any hostile unprovoked attack on taiwan will lead to a decisive response

from the us nuclear strike in mid- august, the taiwanese military took part in exercises on us soil in taipei in plain text. they say that they act with an eye on western curators. we are trying to convey to around the world that the defense of taiwan is a common task. perhaps there will be countries and people who want to provide taiwan with support similar to that which the united states provides to ukraine , that is. give us vyebasy, and then. we ourselves americans do not lose time in vain and expand the geography of possible confrontation . recently, the press said that the united states is negotiating with the philippines, and the construction of a new port on basco island, 200 km from taiwan, they say. this could strengthen the us presence on the southern flank of taiwan formerly the philippines gave the americans access to military bases, and in april held the largest

joint exercise in history, western journalists are delighted. shaking arms is just building an american fortress in asia south korea japan philippines australia the idea is to create a credible coalition in case of a conflict with china without the appeal that war is inevitable. here, yes, the only question is the timing you said about preparing the population of taiwan for. including, the radio real threat, really there five nuclear power plants are mothballed. it's possible that taiwan also had a nuclear weapons program before. it is as if frozen, but it can be thawed and so on. not only taiwan is preparing for this, the philippines, indonesia is also developing plans for the possible evacuation of citizens from the territory of taiwan, the most important thing from china, because china is the other side of the coin. they, too, in theory , should be prepared if war is inevitable, firstly, china has adopted a law on the special

use of the armed forces, which imply use in some additional territories and on their own territory. yes, it's obvious what i'm looking for. for the first time in 20 years, uh, the laws on reservists were updated for the first time, and military awards were accepted for volunteers, and so on and so forth. china is not a country that, for the sake of a media company, in order to achieve some negotiating effects. this is how the regulatory and legal framework within the armed forces will be changed, that is, this is the question. only when i add about the divorce , the chinese-american has already sank by 15% sino-american trade is 150 billion. well, somewhere around 100-150 billion dollars, if this is a very large amount, there really is a gap, when the gap will already be maximum, when the verdict funds are exhausted, participate from the g20 depin for the first time in 10 years flies. yes, then we can say that taiwan has come very close to the military coloring, what it will be is another question, most likely it will be a bloc. yes, at the beginning of this lawyer, which will be very difficult to perceive the taiwanese population from tender rich spoiled and so on.

perhaps it will be the capture of part of the islands and the southern chinese sea and in the middle in the taiwanese pilate strait, the chinese already in armenia in the eighty -ninth year in the nineties practiced such seizures , normal this happened and most likely there is a direct collision scenario or there will be again a pleasant one before it, it will be once, but this is a question of five-year plans and decats. and the ukrainian scenario. can't be. well, once they are at war, they read the crimean script or the hybrid crimean ukrainian. that is, when part of the taiwanese administration here may be shifting towards the chinese army. china is conducting very active work within the taiwanese officers of the armed forces. perhaps it will be a hybrid ukrainians such a donbass-ukrainian scenario. or maybe it will be a scenario of 24 years. but, most likely, this will gradually develop, because the problem of taiwan , unlike ukraine, is, if we really in absolute numbers, take the development of the impact on the economy, this is an order of magnitude more problems for china is a threat. more. i communicate with very high-ranking chinese persons. they

are closely watching the situation in ukraine, and when i speak, you understand that you are now learning from the fact that yes, but there will be many problems for us. worse, that is, drones. now they are flying somewhere to ours, there, like big cities to china. yes, all cities will fly without yours because they are on the coast, of course, there is also alexei mikhailovich again. yes, shake your head. you do not agree that war is inevitable. i don't i agree, uh, 800 billion dollars. well, losing, uh, american trade to china would be a disaster. china would go for it. as a last resort, that is, from what is still there. yes, yes, he stayed, naturally for the americans. this is also a disaster. they lose the capitalization of their entire business. this is also understandable and goods. and here, but at the same time , one must understand that a colleague will agree, and the main tools that will be used are economic ears. no, that is, china has achieved that today here are the latest economic data. uh, taiwan there industrial production,

manufacturing industry fell 15% year on year. that is, they ran money from there, ran to the business. they fled from there, american specialists are transferring factories from there, yes, for the production of chips, but they are transporting specialists together with the factories. that is, ah. that's how the taiwanese experts poets work. they are still this extreme case, when 800 billion dollars are forgotten in general about all this, yes, but there is always a way. there is always another way. that is, in principle, the option that is being considered in as the main one, it seems to me that they will agree on this issue. here we are talking about that the chinese loss of the us market. it's something terrible, but only 20 years old. he dominates in 2003. japan has been china's largest trading partner that is , it is not completely incomprehensible and so on come on step is 12% of turnover.

absolutely correct 6 million dollars only 12%. and in june this year for the first time in china's largest export market has become. the countries of southeast asia are no longer the united states, they are the european union , that is, to a large extent, these risks diversified and this will no longer be a mortal blow to the permission of the states there , alexei sergeevich began to talk about a possible option, when china will have no other, such as a government. if, uh, how would the decision be made, fools or fools in washington who recognize, uh, officially the independence of taiwan and abandon the course, but the fact that taiwan is part of china or fools in beijing who suddenly take it and start all of a sudden such a military operation has not yet been observed, glory. god the thing is now you can change it, i’ll clarify about the fools in washington but when all sorts of stupid grandmothers and children over 80 start flying, and contrary to beijing’s opinion, isn’t it the same stupid course, in the direction that we see the war. this is the most stupid course, but the americans, when they fly there, they understand that because of this, smart people in china

will start a war, but this will not go before the war. it's a step that way. yes, this is a step in that direction, but china will not go to war. which will lead to a catastrophic drop in living standards for the chinese population , it is very important for the chinese communist party that this one, and the well-being of society, in my opinion, will be corrected enough by colleagues. and before them it is very important and they will not go for this military adventure, so there will be no war. now the status quo is fine. yes, now the war will only be with fools or in washington or in peak well, in yours, firstly, i, uh, would argue with the thesis that china is not engaged in pr on this topic, you know, you know, when nancy pilose arrived in taiwan and chinese tanks were uh, found on the beach on the coast near the strait, but it is obvious that these tanks were not there in order to somehow get through the strait to taiwan or threaten from the beach. you and bei they were there for the chinese

because the chinese people love amphibians. they could have been tanks in that they were there, and they wouldn’t even be amphibious or such a distance the fact is that this is the chinese population china's leaders firmly defend china's national interests. at least verbally now, with regard to potential. we may not know all the secrets of the chinese military industry. once in the army, i drew maps for my castle commander with a control stick, so i was not very attentive. was not very healthy. i drew him a tank battalion, right in the lake in some, and he in the morning, when he came to pick up the map. well it saw something painted here. i say, he thought so, he thought, it was necessary to change everything already then, pussy. he says, okay, it will be amphibious tanks, damn it, it all depends. yes, it was almost 30 years ago that the chinese were gone, the amphibious tanks of the war with

vietnam were shown at the time of the incidents in daman. uh, the high class of their armed forces of course since then. well, their armed forces already exist, well, since then they have had no conflicts that i could not show myself either. there is only what concerns, and the likelihood of hostilities, and the americans are provoking and will continue to provoke, because if the chinese, and you know a number of this provocation an endless series of provocations, how it will respond militarily then it will be much easier for the americans to manage the sanctions war against china, you know. here it was a question, step back, if the chinese, as they say , answer in a military sense, then the americans will not do anything further in a military sense. no, i will not support taiwan if they don’t fight, perhaps there is some one here . we showed that we protected you in case of an attack. this does not mean they will

also have the opportunity to put pressure on european allies to canada to japan to south korea to countries also in southeast asia that are by no means enthusiastic about what is happening they had the opportunity to also know how they are now choking on europe because of their own on japan and on other countries and the americans themselves will decide in this situation. that's where what sanctions to impose, so that the minimum damage for themselves and the maximum for china would be. and where not to enter, therefore, when you put pressure on such a large area, you will not run into victor joseph and they didn’t talk about russia about europe that it will freeze, they are not going to immediately complete a divorce will not be. great. come on, misha will not be such a new handling for the americans. this is a plus anton valevich, not about china, the united states, neither military action nor a direct clash is needed in any case. this is the first two nuclear powers, the second thesis. the economic ties between the us and china are such that

the us is in a more vulnerable position if they impose sanctions, because if we look at the structure of their trade. depending on what they are again, i'm talking about mass sanctions massively on the economy, for example, trade restrictions , everything else means, and they sell three and a half times less in china than china sells to america, and this is not a problem for china, not so much a problem for china of losing the american market. how much is america's problem because the huge amount of goods that come from china can run out for them and these are big problems. they just said that for america, china how competitors are not needed? she will somehow try to eliminate him with all her might, i explain, now everything the united states and america are also active, and yes, other players in the world. they are not raising the stakes of the far east of pre-war actions to direct actions, even to what extent this is a salami tactic, when some kind of big global goal is replaced by a sequence of some small things

that you will not cause a tough reaction from your opponent from the competitor’s opponent. strictly speaking, that is, they carried out small sanctions. they understand that china will not, relatively speaking, score on this with a microscope. uh, respectively, uh, what's the name of the nail? he will most likely answer also finely, directly, quite microscopically antonchik, if the word is microscope, you know a nail. no, you are straight, well, yes, a little on him more often works with a microscope than with nails. yes , yes, it is logical. yes, let's take a break of a small 6.000 to screw in it a special component for better penetration and inflammation against pain and inflammation in the muscles and joints. don't miss central television's first news show, events and people of the week. kiev is going to put under arms limited fit and are the events on

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is your term, so you explain bulgarian mathematics. i myself wrote this text. you are right, it means that the gas scandal between moldova and russia has developed ; he says that almost no debt exists. why almost, because they are ready to pay only eight out of 709 million dollars, on wednesday, the minister of energy of moldova, uh, called a special press conference where he announced that chisinau has a meager debt. already russian gas to such conclusions according to him, a group of international auditors hired by the moldovan government estimated that most of the debt is 400 million. it is not necessary to pay it overdue, the other part is not confirmed by documents. well, summing up this complex moldovan mathematics, he said chisinau will pay russia 8 1/2 million dollars. well, it's all over.

what is proposed is proposed to pay the amount of 8.6 million dollars at this stage, so that all issues were closed by this offer. we sent to gazprom, we are waiting for a reaction and spoke the moldovan prime minister, his name is dorin of speech, but he turned to the citizens of moldova and played on their feelings that it was not the government of moldova , not the citizens of moldova, they were all free from any debts to russia. well, he offered to rejoice somehow. let's listen to speeches moldova will not pay for non-existent debts. we will not allow this debt to be placed on the shoulders of citizens. moldova is not going to pay non-existent debts, and the citizens of moldova are obviously not obliged to pay for this either. but if you think that's it this moldovan theft did not end there, it means it was the day before. it is known that the romanian gas company, which is called west transgas for 5 years.

it received the right to manage the gas transmission system of moldova, why is this important before this decision, the moldovan gts was essentially controlled by gazprom gazprom, the main shareholder of moldova, gas, which you gts was engaged in and remains this shareholder, but in moldova in july this year convened a special commission that came up with a special law, to withdraw from management in the ownership of gazprom this very moldovan gas transportation system is a sleight of hand and no fraud. andrei ivanovich, i think that ostap bender could work. moldavian, the government was such a film red four letters and there, at the very end of the first part of this film, the heroes of biryus willis and john malkovich flee on a cart from moldova, the moldavian army is chasing them, they turn and shout, moldova sucks. by the way, there aren't many good movies like this anymore. today i thought, well , some kind of fu, the joke is not very political, moldova sucks. i think that no, smoke without fire is about sports. he appears in our

program when the international olympic committee makes some regular statement on the situation with our athletes. well, here, too, a little bit of a moldovan approach. forgive me. apparently like ostap a means for technical reasons. uh, russian belarusian athletes will not participate in the asian games. this is the decision of the international olympic committee. with that, in general, as expected. we should have there to participate, and not just there neutral status, but even outside the medal count. well , just run and jump for your pleasure. in general, the question arises how long. i don't think i have one. let's see the first story. on september 23 , the asian games will start in the chinese city of hangzhou, but russian belarusian athletes who applied for participation in january will not go there. so last weekend decided in the international olympic committee. citing some technical reasons in

total on the game. asia should have almost 500 athletes from russia were invited to participate in a neutral status. and out of the medal count. we have discussed this issue at the international level between the entire olympic community and the international olympic committee. we are enabling independent athletes to take part in the games in asia in the run-up to the olympics in paris in russia , now the discussion has flared up with renewed vigor tom is it time for us to leave the olympic movement. at the end of july , the olympic champion in fencing called for an exit from the galina gorokhova, her arguments could be controlled by western politicians, and in the sport of politics, russia's exit from the sport could not have been allowed by the olympic champion in gymnastics. lydia ivanova , there is no democracy left there, and that means that the russians have nothing to do there. similar calls are heard in the state duma of full-fledged participants in the olympic movement. they are not used as a doormat for wiping their feet. they do not wait to be invited or not to the games in paris and on

what conditions to climb out the window after being pointed out more than once at the door. yes, even at the same time, pretend that you are walking up the main staircase with a red carpet strategy. failed in every sense , the russian olympic committee does not agree with this position, according to roc president stanislav pozdnyakov , a call to leave the olympic movement. this is a game into the hands of those who seek the isolation of our country, the olympic champion , now a state duma deputy, svetlana zhurova, will echo him , arguing that russia risks losing its membership in international federations. although now we can’t hold international competitions anyway, and in the world cup and our athletes are either not allowed at all or they do it with serious restrictions, with a russian athlete prohibited from participating in international competitions and sporting events. in russia, sponsorship in all disciplines and divisions is canceled or transferred, the international

sports community is stopped moving towards further isolation of russia . some kind of masochism, some kind of masochism, i don't know. do you remember the little bracket i will open it when, in december last year , the russian football union, which is now facing the same problems as ukr. and suddenly he announced that we were thinking of going to asia. and although this was done solely in order to hear a reaction from above, whether we are doing the right thing or not, because there were no instructions from above, but for our functionaries. this is the worst thing in the air, they know how to change their shoes, but decide for themselves, and then get under the distribution like that, but we nevertheless simultaneously talk about talking to asia about uefa contributions for 23 for 24 in advance. all paid, that should how to turn yours that

to me that one thing seems to be morons, and that the other too. dryuchit dryuchit. eh, it wipes your feet. and you still pay money for this, firstly, we are punished for very specific things, what kind of prutkov, we don’t rebel against the authorities, therefore the events of february 24th. and for what sports never, please down to earth? for what sporting events did the international olympic committee punish our athletes? let's change not punished. athletes can compete in individual status, and that's when forgive me for roskomnadzor will also forgive this, we need this could. who does not look at sports competitions and says, and you are from russia , something is wrong with politics there, but you won’t perform, right? it turns out that why do we need a quantity, why do we need such an organization, when a huge number of countries have existed for years outside of sports movements. we can remember yugoslavia ninety- one through ninety-eight, we can spit

on yugoslavia. i don't care about historical examples. now my country says sports organization, that it will not let athletes from my country, because the policy is not sports, and the usual international policy of my country does not correspond, it means shelling, but then they don’t do it quickly. now the choice is between inviting us without any conditions or inviting us with conditions. we are now being met, because the choice is different between not inviting at all, but. make us kneel and choose or just make us kneel. all propagandists are busy only inventing that it will be necessary to condemn the military operation nowhere in these documents could it be said that a lot more is needed somehow a statement. you, you are a more savvy person in sports than i am, when athletes from our country are punished

simply because they were born in russia and they have a russian passport. forgive me, this has nothing to do with sports at all. excuse me, we lived in these conditions from 17 to 1952 for about 35 years. no one said that and for what we are punished. and what does it have to do with those who are now born, they have nothing to do with paying dues in moss seventeenth to fifty-second. well, we weren't paying the whole closure. the question is closed by you yourself on it. reply. yes, please, because before their programs, just this thesis, such an interrogative one, was always present and there was an explanation that seemed to me bright and intelligible, this is this conversation. actually. what kind of crimes have we committed, for which we are being punished. yes, no crime. we have not committed to me in this case two issues are still on the agenda, first, who punishes us. and on what

basis we are punished by an organization called the international olympic committee. it’s just that i really don’t want to talk about this in the studio to those people who are in favor of these continuations of relations with them. this is a private shop. it is a private organization funded by private sources. why on what basis does a giant state with the fifth economy of the world, a private organization have the right to punish in this way? why, in principle, the question arises, i know in a striking way. i agree. here 10% with nikolai nikolaevich. today, i agree with the part that russian sports officials continue to dance with a tambourine. this, frankly, is what pisses me off. no position. they are waiting for the position from above to be expressed that, well, the olympic committee, of course, it is in a straight line, as it is assimilated with the international olympic committee. so far, so it is here, but why is there still no tough position about the wild humiliation that our sport is subjected to. why are we still

start talking we'll look at we'll look at the terms. send us an email. and all this continues to humiliate us openly in public. they tell us all this, and we continue. well, how to take such a position between the clouds and the sea. this is what annoys me, to be honest. even more than the fact that we can leave somewhere, if we leave the brain in the same way as for them, for example, in the situation with the world hockey championship, nothing will change, in general, in fact, we do not participate in the competition develops . only when start and go back. that is, it is not no, no problem. i remember the tournament. druzhba 84 went to him, which was an alternative somehow they told los angeles, and i remember this lie, when it ended and the champion of the los angeles olympiad was announced in the stands , friendship put four sixth places and all wow and then passed years. we looked at these protocols, when they were published, it turned out to be a blatant lie, like

the competitions in the spartakiad because this year, which were simply below the level all results. how do you need it because of this? because it seems to me that his chest can be heard in the microphone reminds me of this old obscene anecdote guys. i don’t understand something like a hunter or a pederast. well, the truth is, this is the story that the domestic sport will perish and it is necessary to perform these yesterday. well, the day before yesterday there on these mr. bach and speak. in which and he wants to see a russian athlete. here i will put in a corner without flowers, respectively, i mean, national colors without a coat of arms, without everything, but in front of it there will be a glazing team of ukraine. well, why prepare a propaganda show, he sees it that way. he says that he cooperates with politicians, because, probably, he did not finish cooperating with politicians in the past. he cooperates with western politicians the whole matter. why participate in this show? we get a broken tongue. explains that everything that bach introduced does not correspond, first of all

, to the olympic hare. in no way, therefore , the story that, well, there is a reason for which we were punished for this. here, excuse me just playing along with that side. excuse me, but you need to understand for yourself, yes in this system, we are not radov me. sorry, but they ask again when they tell me that this is the dream of athletes, if an athlete's dream, let's go without the opportunity to name ourselves. excuse me. somewhere. as it turned out, even talking to be silent without flowers in a gray robe. to perform at such competitions even if i have trouble, in my opinion, that's the big mistake. this is trouble. these are big problems, then we have with sports, if we brought up athletes who are ready go for it and so on, again the main question arises. it already arises could not have them a client. and why do we need to finance such a method, that's the problem. i'm actually talking about this for now. i have questions, maybe for a long time there was such hmm and some time ago uh hmm

as they say, they are an integral part, uh, of our such cultural life. in the month of may, there, at the end of april, my big qualifying tournaments were held. uh, for this event. tv channels invested big money there and fought for the right to broadcast. this the event was such a cheat, just huge. eh, there were some teleconferences of the studio there. and eurovision, yes, yes, that's also money. they gave it to him a few years ago. they started to say something. some kind of yes, it is necessary to bring down from there and everything is impossible to bring down, because we are enclosing ourselves with a fence there. we have been living without eurovision for several years now and somehow, in my opinion, we are living well. ah. don't be afraid, nikolai nikolaevich we have been parting ways with you for a long time already in some places from blessed augustine. i don't want don't want out eurovision can i first

ask maxim anatolyevich, but in the next one in my speech. you will tell us all this about maxima anatolyevich, dear to your heart for some reason, eurovision. well, alexander asked a question here. why don’t sports officials take the initiative and wait for instructions from above, because everything in our country is there so no one makes any officials, without instructions, from above, and decisions are good or bad. we will not discuss now. but it is so. now let's think. why don't you follow instructions from above? why can't we think about it? maybe they understand that there is no need to commit any yet. hasty action, maybe there is a complex uh, including a diplomatic game. look from the other side at bach's statement on the position he could how the ukrainians react. why are they so nervous? why because you offer? should we analyze now? you yourself say that this should not be done for a long time. well, give me a complicated idea. i'm not

talking about slogans. just don't interfere, please, us, please, it means ukrainians threaten boyko there. yes, yesterday there was a statement that allegedly already, and not a coalition. we have a history, a little obviously meaning those states that support them in the political military field. that is , it turns out that france will boycott igor, who is being held there, that is, the ukrainians are their own and uncompromising. for a year they drive themselves into a dead end and discredit the new world , until everything resolves , the boycott will be in what case if the russians or belarusians, in any capacity, come to the games in paris, that is, why are you now proposing to run ahead of the locomotive to make such a spectacular decision and you, of course, are wonderful in the studio so mega-patriots 90% of the audience will

applaud, but in fact, sometimes you need to turn your head on. let's play number two at a second pace , this is both in sports and in politics and in life, and even in war, he called us all a buttock-old discussion about whether you want to be 100 years old, and then maxim anatolyevich also doesn’t get to us. let ukraine turn with maksimovich there so what, thank you very much, you were idiots. yes sometime long approach once upon a time. alekseevich and i are happy to work. e on the echo of moscow vedic here, i don’t know if it’s true or not. and nadia always. yes, thank you, he always told the story, somehow autumn came to him, to whom something like that and wrote a letter of resignation, but dictov, he says, lyosha says, and you didn’t indicate the reason there for which alexei wrote it, that i ask wolf because i'm an idiot. uh, as an idiot goes , there were some interesting ones, nothing to venediktov, then. yes, we are called people who do not

include the brain. uh, as i understand it, we are on the same wavelength, because you also say that you should have been out of it a long time ago. no, i don't say that. i say that you should not participate in competitions if you are offered humiliating conditions, but the very withdrawal from the ioc is a pure advertising campaign. this is beating yourself with your heels in the chest, and so to speak, why i will explain. here such here, my benefit is not present. well, because the olympic movement does not belong to mr. baku because if the olympic charter, which is how fair. oleg said violated that membership and participation. do not confuse this, here we are now in the olympic movement taking part in the olympic games do not participate, as this is mysticism. sorry no, but we no , this is not sophistry. this is not sophistry, if well there was a case, among other things, between international politics, when we refused to the security council, he

voted and so on. if i remember correctly, correct me people following politicians , the korean war started. no, there was a story when our post took a meeting and left and they voted differently than we did. wanted and as a result it led to unnecessary consequences for us, but this, but, but we in the security council, he remained without leaving. yes, i'm telling the truth, yes, under the auspices of the un and it was perceived in the world in no way as if the united states but as the international united nations wait i don't care, because let's not go away, then it's far in the past. i still want to understand, uh, this is what is happening now is our participation in the olympic movement, which is right here always, yes, i will support your festival jokes. uh, party member's speech. i am her brain. that's why the question here is very simple for us people, as it were, they forgot that they need

to turn on their brains periodically, we have already overripe the decision, no matter what we do now looks like. it will be bad. we leave the brains, well, we stop at least this national cuckoldism, when we just didn’t piss there, i don’t know, in principle, virtually. if you remember them as a team, it means that you did it, they simply got it, unzipped it and rushed, but uh, and we are going out now. and what will we achieve next, that is, we need some alternative in theory, but on the other hand. yes, if we do not go out and there we will stay. well, just waiting for us, most likely, the first in general, well , relatively speaking, because, unfortunately, there are people in general on the olympic day, a spoon. so forgotten that the sport, in theory, should have been outside of politics, but there everything seemed to be put on this principle, in general, with a bolt, just the most powerful just fucking do it. that's what we do, that we're overripe both of these decisions you understand no with talk, of course with talk. that is, you want to cook the door,

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a plus. this is the meeting place on ntv, the place where everything becomes clear. we continue , we stopped at the words of stanislav zhuravkovsky that we need to get out of international olympic movement and do something different. here, let 's dwell on the second part of the phrase to do something of our own, because really , after they stopped letting us into all sorts of reputable international competitions. russia took up the organization of several large major tournaments at once. how successful is all of this? at the end of july, our ministry of sports said that next year kazan will host the brix games, 5,000 athletes from 50 countries are waiting there, that is, not only member states of the organization, but also all who are going to join there, like kazakhstan , mexico, turkey and many others , 25 sports will be included in the competitive program. yes, an alternative

competition is being created. just in case, although here, probably the word itself. just in case, do not imply. and that we are reinsured , athletes will receive world-class whole-making processes. and in the spring , another sporting event, the friendship games, was announced. in september 2024, they will be hosted by moscow and yekaterinburg, and the winter competitions will be held in sochi is waiting for about the same number of athletes , about 5,000, that everything looks big at the games in brix, but our ministry of sports admits that such competitions could not completely replace the olympics. we do not consider this as an alternative competition for the brix games of the friendship games, the games of the future of the games of the cis countries - this is a new format and competitions that shape and strengthen our national sports system , at the same time , other fears sound louder if all these games are not athletes from the usa and other hostile countries, how interesting it will be for the fans and the athlete himself. for example, in swimming, the main struggle takes place between

russia and france and the united states and britain. yes, biathlon, it ’s hard to imagine without the norwegians. but fencing, diving and gymnastics promise to be spectacular, but only on condition that the chinese come. the financial country of the issue is also interesting. recently , a project appeared on the network, allegedly prepared by the ministry of sports in russia, in which the total cost of the friendship games is estimated at about 8 billion rubles. and most of the money should be allocated from extrabudgetary sources. it is clear whether this money includes the accommodation of athletes and other transportation costs. earlier , the organizers said that large-scale construction for new competitions would not be required in any city, i plan to build new infrastructure. naturally. in a year. it's impossible. we will be based on those excellent sports facilities that already exist in our country. so antonch, it is possible for the previous part. and now it will be a replacement

or is it such a fallback just in case, as if there was a reservation, and how much is it will it cost us and will really strong athletes go? in general, there are a lot of questions, and this i suggested the word alternative uh-huh yes, an additional alternative and there is nothing wrong with it, it is already an additional action to what may or may not be, so, uh, there is nothing wrong, i fully support with all my hands for and know your now talk to money. this is absolutely not about that, but money, if a political decision is made, it will not be found , everything will go well. so, if they go well there and the sponsors pull it all up fine. the question is completely different. quite right, but will strong athletes come and strong athletes come, even from those countries that are hands-on, because where is the guarantee that in a year or two, it means that international movements could also. uh, they will put bans on participation in the national sanction of the federation. yes, who will take part in this part, we do not know for what, but

again now for a second for god's sake this has ever happened in history. and there weren't many things . well, that's what a person is involved in. e. well, i don't know. sebastian cola came to moscow in the 1980s, and then he was banned somewhere. he says that where is the guarantee that they will come to us for these games, and then they will be banned from sanctions in them leads, as there has never been such a thing against the political communication of the international federation. and so , but this does not mean that this cannot be, but i say again that this way to some alternative competitions is good. that's right, even if, as it were, everything will be fine with the olympic movement. in any case these are these alternatives. they are good because it is possible to compete the development of sports and so on and so forth. i'm not talking about this at all here we love. eh, everything. that could bang, bang, bang. listen, everything is smokey clear with the tank. all clear. and in fact, the problem is not at all in baja, but the problem is that he was appointed, and he publicly spoke about this several times, that he was imposed such conditions that, on the one hand, we do not impose any sanctions against russia, but with another. and for this

a huge number of western countries simply enrich does not give money and melt and the like, they just put him in a row. he acted differently, the problem was not in the resignation and another will come and everything will be the same the problem is not in bach. at all. in general, i propose to discuss this this could, because this is politics. and when we say russia needs to leave the ioc, listen, russia cannot but leave the ioc, enter, enter. yes , because it could, as it was rightly said. this is a public non-profit private shop, do not stop relations with this happy state. well there is no this membership without membership. so we're going the right way, and the only way not to end the relationship is not to take part, which is how we do not take part. they are making false choices. it will not come out officially to announce that we are no longer with this private shop, which is in charge of emotions. we no longer have any relationship with her. i want to go back to what the colleague said at

the very beginning. here is my pain. i've been talking about this for a long time, the second year has passed and the position states in some kind of raskoryaku second year, please do not second. no, well, now i mean, well, this , please take at least some position for our federations for athletes, what is going on we say about the federation to do what you want as a result of insulting conditions, when humiliating, when you have half a delegation they just ban because they found some likes or there, so these athletes e belong to those sports organizations that are related to law enforcement agencies there. that is, you have your gender, uh, so the delegations are banned, and the second half goes like this in general? so, you are now calling your ugly examples, drawing the leadership of the federation to the leadership of the russian olympic committee to the ministry of sports. first of all, to the ministry of sports.

still, we don’t have a crux, whatever one may say, so sport is 90% connected with the state. of course we can talk. we even here in our previous programs this is the business of every athlete. he has to decide for himself. that is , it turns out these amazing, and the requirements simply force betrayal. and this betrayal happens because when half of the delegation goes, and she let us down to participate in competitions. and sometimes the aspartians are not the strongest, but the second half sits there, in which they were not allowed. it's just something like that in general, when they tell us here, now we'll just hang a little, yes, look here. we are now in a conversation. yes, hare, you just need to announce to the guys, either we do not participate until then, or we say exactly the next state of russia does not participate in this matter, and you are athletes. if you want to participate privately, there must be some

intelligible baking sheet. yes, maybe alternative games. well, how do we call them that among ourselves, we'll be back, because maxim anatolyevich wants more, i wanted to pass it on. yes alternative games have a very interesting plot. but for me, as for bali, it’s like a sore to me, the more interesting competitions will take place on the combat side or with the participation of the national team of my country, the better. therefore, in theory, a wonderful idea, of course, they are not allowed to the olympic games to the world championships. well, at least the games continue to be played . well, let's let's see what the score will be on the scoreboard. that's who will send. and which athletes, which delegations will it show, for example, with regard to winter-e, here are their types. so at the last championship, china beat, the united states , that is, two, it turned out that the question would be, uh, the chinese would send the film. and it is very important that they send those same athletes and athletes who won the world championships. well, then it will really be interesting, and

ours will be interesting to compete, as far as football is concerned, but the brazilians are unlikely and the strongest team, but even from uh. well, what is football? and respect at the olympic games. here are the t-shirts of the world cup of the olympics in football is, well, we at least have something to look at. here is absolutely look in all sports. and we will be serious with whom, that’s with no one, because to remember, but not with africans , there is no one between them, including, therefore, yes, there is a figure in the obsleevsk, or it is, for example, you are biathlongs. yes, such competitions, but that's why they don't say anything about them yet. well, let's see africans, for example, will send their e, the strongest long-distance athletics runners or not, so that at least somewhere there is at least something, but then it’s more or less normal, all the more there is no choice. in general, in fact, the situation is already so bad, but here at least a little bit. it

won't be so bad in that none of these alternatives or games brix blacks friendship blacks cis whatever it can be commercially viable, this money is needed? why can be commercially viable? i remind you that the olympic games since '84 have all been profits. isn't it true, this sochi 24 is absolutely a lie man 2008, just from the first to the last word. you open documents difficult. the most important thing is to always hold any sports competition as a political action. we did it to our own detriment. there, in 3 days, they transferred the world cup from the affected japan in the eleventh year to their place. only in order to show that it is possible, yes, we held the unprofitable olympic games in sochi. these games don't last forever. they cannot be of interest to anyone. and it will spending. we are not in the nature of the state of money. they would not allow planning until they can be of interest to anyone and that's it. we spend

absolutely unprofitable alexander aleksandrovich you were indignant, and 90% of all olympic games. it is indeed open information starts athens 2004-2. and lord vancouver 2010 and so on. they are simply unprofitable, they plunged countries into a crisis after the olympic games to the question that the games are unprofitable sochi is just one of the more or less better examples is barcelona of the ninety-second year, which blossomed after the olympics all other olympic games. uh, lily hammer's expenses exceeded and income 15 times nikolai you are now openly lying what you say, it's just not true that you read open information. everything is not, see the truth, as we considered the costs of 90 ministers, there were no exceptions. i can even say some siddny 2000 more or less atlanta of the ninety-sixth year there with certain reservations. and here is the third olympic games in the ninety-second year in gyeongochang, half of

the objects were assembled and dismantled immediately after this is a mandatory requirement, so that if that money yes, we are now a little bit about sports and about sports competitions. well commercial interesting patriotism effect, there, i don't know how it's a different story. but it is then that it is imperative for us to have these impulses of some kind, and to defend our own merits. they also brought us money. well, i think you are absolutely right. i believe there are olympics. they have them talking like familiar events. this is primarily the experience of patriotism, and national ideas and so on and so on only later about the money about their country, and the status and they took the games and the breeze - this is not about money, the childish old, obsolete paradis said the editor of a newspaper called soviet sport. and here we take another pause and continue in a couple of minutes. everything that

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he had such a statement, in general, i must say that the rules. op, probably right, he says, tired, if they have it there, well, it doesn’t matter, in general, the slaughter of the cat of the olympics , the country, uh, is punished by quite serious two olympic cycles of suspension, that is, you have to miss two winter olympics and two summer ones western press in turn writes that bach is simply trying to try on the role of a peacemaker and hints at commercial interests. thomas's strongest trait has always been his political intuition, which usually helped him find a way out of difficult and confusing situations. he never had any illusions and was not the most ardent supporter of democratic values. bach has turned the international olympic committee into an organization that has only two goals: the cult of personality around him, the infallible grand chairman, and the billions in profits from advertising contracts for the olympic games.

well, it looks like something personal. this publication has against bach but nonetheless. here is no illusion. uh, alexei teaches correctly, let's not have illusions in stock popcorn, and again i say. if you step back from the situation. let them decide, because let's look at the situation, for example, with tennis players in all respects. they go, that is, bears. they are performing now. well, they're going well. here's what they do and so, it seems, as an independent decision is not made about this. now the position of ukraine will be interesting to me or well, i don’t know, no, you say, answer. i will ask question ukraine here they are, that they refuse to go to paris if medvedev appears there or how it's all lies, so no, who they are they will give back the bucks will give me back just curious. medvedev is not particularly needed for this olympics. and we have to sit and wait. let them boycott. let them with each other. uh, after one of them will be an idiot there, and drops out. but then, uh, what your

neighbor, antonch on the right, was talking about, e minsport should not work out some kind of unified position on statehood. we are waiting for them to decide for themselves bullshit, right? i don’t understand, everyone why, if from the other side to work out clear state support, i’m only for it, if , but in our country, vladimir vladimirovich never really put it forward. and because it goes down from top to bottom. uh, then, strictly speaking, everyone should spin to do. it's not that we all take the president for the president, he is a man, he cannot do everything. so they are formed until they hear. wait. no, not like that. this, of course, of course, such an octopus sits and everything in every country’s problem is dealt with by the foreign ministry your pre-offer. so, accordingly, as if preparing his own proposals for the ministry of culture on some problem of the ministry of sports, that is, erdogan. now

came. yes, gadzhi just came to sochi, they frayed there about some football player, because when putin saw off erdogan, they had an exchange of remarks there. yes, and putin says. okay, he says, we'll figure it out there. if we can help with something, let someone like that play. yes, let's stanislavovich what do you say, uh, a successful alternative. uh, as such private shops are not private should consist of several components. again, this is a quorum for everyone to come. less desirable should be sports interest, there are also television broadcasts, again, that is , the competition itself should be beautifully filmed, that is, there should be a lot of cameras, professional directors are an event for entertainment. first of all, that is, this is our entertainment, there must also be professional teams that can shoot, so that it is watchable , it must somehow correct the ratings, so that looking at such a sports competition

the man wanted to run. they just had fun on the sofa from a bottle, so that there was a drama, again some kind of sports, so that later children usually start to get sick, by the way, they start rooting for the football team that they lose in childhood. they feel justice begin to hurt. let's have alternatives. it seems to me not to organize large-scale pompous events. let there be beautiful games. yes, just make the russian championship open, offer normal prize money and maybe the athletes will go and no one will make a decision will send they will participate themselves and examples, by the way, there are volleyball, for example, one of the strongest couples in the world participates in our championship on their own initiative, what will we do if we win the first three places in the russian championship there will be nothing champion of russia well , since the probationary khl or award-winning, and themselves will train well for the champion of russia will be the second place here. well, khl nikolai

nikolayevich is not necessary. this is somewhat, in my opinion, exaggerated by one of the brightest seasons soviet football, generally fell on 46-48 years, the confrontation of the cfc, and dynamo is a legendary, in general, story, where the stars of soviet football came from, then the coaches came out and boris arkadiev, who coached from the cfc - this is the man who created the theory of modern world football on wait a second. what do i mean by the fact that we then fifa did not participate in international matches; there was no understanding of what we are today. well , imagine, yes, they existed. we are in the system of international sports, and then the citizens around us went crazy and started dragging policy, and here comes the question. you will either crawl there on your knees and fulfill their conditions, or you will say, and go, you all dear comrades, you know where, until you change your mind, and i will play sports here. so, if you look, when you are told that it is necessary to indicate not to indicate the statutory documents and, in general, the position of mr. sports. you know that the education of patriotism, including this is one

of the fundamental tasks of the ministry of sports , explain to me the current line of the officials. here it is in the message fencers, who, it turns out. she went herself, who was then humiliated by a ukrainian woman, and then everything again disappeared and got lost and there was no one to ask, since she went there, who sent her there, it turns out that the girl herself went to be humiliated, and then all the officials. this is absolutely from the federation of these tavans from the olympic committee, they said general words and disappeared and the girl disappeared. guys. you don't have to do science. let's develop adults. it is necessary here and now in the conditions that were they wait, that someone will call and tell you how to do it, well, a year and a half has passed. you see , when the athletes themselves say, well, as much as possible let's go about our business, and not look at what they say. bach will say, the danish newspaper will say some other american schizophrenic who thinks that he will tell us something here. well , we have to break away from this, they have been doing this for 3 years. there for 10 years, we turn on the russian championship of the crimean teams, they run

not on the federal children's broadcast channel youth tournament, because donetsk shakhtar arrived there, he, god forbid, we will be sanctioned for international broadcast. but it's a fucking shame. you excuse me enough to deal with. this is nonsense. be men already, in the end, by the way, some here are representatives of precisely women for representatives of big sport, well, where does anyone come, they somehow have no doubts. they have a very clear and distinct position. well , let's stop here now. yes, i really hope that somehow us today looked at the same ministry of sports. maybe we could help? well, now let's sum up helped to develop a solution. go man, could not believe his ears when a neighbor confessed to him that he had killed his mother, call the police, the decapitated body of an elderly woman lay in the house for several days stuffed

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movement without russia or sports russia without the olympic movement. who will win? if we say, will there be, uh, without russia , the olympic movement, unfortunately, sadly, if we continue to send our athletes on the conditions that she put forward the olympic movement will exist, because formally supposedly at least someone came, russia is somehow represented russia seems to be in the olympic movement. here, either not to participate , or, accordingly, he makes some other decision, so stanislavchik the olympic movement already without russia, in fact, it will continue without russia , and if everything remains as it is, then in fact the olympic movement already. without russia, it has long existed successfully or not. this is already, in principle, understandable, but, as it were, already russia nikolayevich e. will never live without this movement. i think, unfortunately, the detachment will not

notice the loss of a fighter, the olympic movement will live quietly without russia, and therefore, if the athletes want to, uh, build their careers, and all that is necessary, urgently change sports citizens citizenship. called on us by the editor-in-chief soviet radical statement after another aleksandrovich as long as the political order of things is preserved in the world , the olympic movement will be preserved in its outer world, because flesh from flesh is one from the other, when the geopolitical situation in the world as a whole changes, when this radical change ends in the era that we live in this era of change, the status of russia will change and its position russia will live without the olympics in their current form, it will be difficult for the olympic movement, because i'm afraid that for russia will follow a few more countries now leaving. uh-huh, i'll allow myself time. we still have one personal memoir in 2016, a difficult reporter's fate brought me to the glorious city of lausanne, where about the unfortunate accidents located at the headquarters international olympic committee and sports arbitration you were not included. then

he joined and also works at the meeting place , according to my personal reporter's feelings , a more swine attitude towards the press to the organization of people who are interested in sports. no one else, as he could, does not express. here i am, this is mine. top antique so i hope i live to see both of these climbing buildings burn down. i 've heard enough of eremenko, he infected you with some kind of radicalism. it's like a joke. although i think it's more. it looks like the truth. means sports news in its latest statement, the international olympic committee explained that it has no objection to the performance of russian athletes at the olympic games. the main thing is that they do not win, as explained in the ioc - this is fully consistent with the olympic criteria. the main thing is not victory. and participation was a meeting place that cannot be changed 14:00. everyday ntv broadcast all the best to you, goodbye. it’s a pity,

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