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a husband and wife drowned a newborn child in a bucket, and then buried him in the garden . the man confessed to his friend in our studio denis grechishnikov. denis surely you remember in detail that day when a friend told you such a terrible truth, such a situation cannot be forgotten, what exactly did he tell you? i ’ve known my neighbor for a very long time, 2004, late in the evening. i already see, that is, he is somehow behaving incorrectly. that is him. well, not the same as before, that you have some problems. can anyone help there? maybe yes, here i am, 7-6 years ago i lived there with my wife. she was pregnant, but pregnant was not from me,

that is. i'll return it. and what he says, well, the point is that she gave birth and drowned this child in a bucket. and he asked me to wrap it in tulle and bury it in the garden. of course, i didn’t believe it, but i think, well, maybe, as some interesting ones, i decided, that is, to wait such a moment that he was more or less, that is, in his right mind. i asked him a question, and he told me everything verbatim, that is, what is there, tulle, how is it? where he buried it, that is. well, that is, he told me everything, and from that moment i realized that this, that is, this is actually, this is a really creepy story. i can't wrap my head around it. i can't even justify it. i don’t understand at all, that is, what kind of hatred can there be for a newborn whom she carried for 9 months simply as a mother? it seems to me that it’s not that

live after this. well, i just don't know, it's impossible. this is some kind of this is not cruelty. it's simple. the heart is simply inhuman. i don’t know how a person can live peacefully after what he has done, especially considering that she is the mother of this child, call her mother. it’s simply impossible, in this case, it’s her child, it doesn’t matter who the father is. it ’s her child, and i don’t know how she slept peacefully, how she lived calmly. oh, how her conscience didn’t torment her. or maybe she tormented her, but, apparently, not so much that she didn’t go anywhere and didn’t give up, because the person whoever did this should tear him apart from the inside, and he should share it, tell it, i don’t know the whole world to the police , anyone who wants what i did will get rid of this burden, but apparently it didn’t bother her so much when the woman just gave birth, her psycho-emotional state

and hormonal levels change. well, sometimes a woman is not herself, but i want to say, so this is no postpartum depression, no. because depression takes a long time to develop. it has a cumulative effect. and when like this the impulse occurs immediately after birth, yes, that is, this moment has a cumulative effect until childbirth, yes, that is, this is not postpartum depression. it’s expensive to bear, of course, that is, and here you need to look. and how she lived, and what kind of emotional turmoil she had, stress, yes, that is, this is all that accumulated before the birth, these are the circumstances that pushed her to do this and she decided to do this, this child was not from her husband, but by essentially a child who has had enough fun. this may be her psycho-emotional state. from her words, she knew it correctly , she probably said it, that is, either she wanted her husband to be jealous, leave

her, make some kind of relationship, and then the question arises. why did she take revenge on him in this way ? a woman who just had a laugh once, she will never tell about this, but here she told him about it, she wanted to hurt him. she took revenge for what, and here we need to look at the story up to article 106 of the criminal code. it is not for nothing that it is separated into a separate composition. the fact is that mother mother is in such a psychophysical state in which she cannot fully account for her actions. that is why the murder of a mother and a newborn child is singled out as a separate crime and the punishment for it is several times less than for the murder of denis, but it turns out that your neighbor’s wife gave birth to a baby at home. yes, not in the maternity hospital. yes , alexandra gave birth. if a woman gave birth at home herself without the help of doctors, isn’t that fatal? dangerous. after all, you need to cut the umbilical cord. this is

definitely true. deadly. this is very dangerous, especially for the child. mothers, so here it’s like very much. this is a long process during the assessment. the condition of the child in utero, how does he turn there? what is the situation in , how is it all going through the entire labor process, this needs to be supported by the obstetrician, me, yes, gynecologists and midwives. they also help turn the baby around correctly so that he comes out without being injured during the birth canal, so when this happens on his own at home. well, it was extremely dangerous they lived, for example, the neighbors could not hear any screams or squeals, but neither could the women. she's herself a baby could scream in nature, even if she was holding everything in her hands, well, as neighbors and people located close somewhere in the perimeter , for me, my brain doesn’t fit at all, it’s also very strange, and the child of rebirth screams, loudly, loudly, these children were born healthy his first scream is a full-fledged one because it happens along with inhalation and is quite loud and sonorous, that is, you can

really hear it. well, being, of course, if it ’s there somewhere in a closet, where it’s closed and you can’t hear it and somewhere far away and there, for example, from site to site and there is a long distance, well then, of course, they didn’t hear the child was just born. he let out, even if he did, the first cry, he still did not understand anything that was happening to him, this is actually a baby that was born and, accordingly, he was placed again in an environment containing liquid. that is, here is water. he probably quickly choked and his screams died. there would have been at least the slightest chance to save this baby, of course, of course, who else knew about this situation, right? well, yes. well, who can, the neighbor's brother said that he was the only one. who knew, but no one signaled. why do you think people were silent, but it seems to me that and this is

elementary irresponsibility and negligence. this is the case when neighbors are friends and relatives. this is none of our business, we will not be in solidarity in this situation. it seems to me that no one really cared. well, how could you not notice. eh, the woman was pregnant for 9 months, that is, naturally the neighbors saw her on but according to the law, how those to whom this person told about what he had done should have behaved. naturally, he should not have fulfilled his civic duty and contacted law enforcement agencies to verify this information. and if the fact is proven that these neighbors and relatives knew and kept silent on purpose. this can even be regarded as a concealment of a crime, they saw a pregnant woman, they saw that

she then walks around without a big belly, the question arises by itself, where is the child? and even more so , the information from the neighbors who are nearby is impossible not to hear the child’s cry, the child was born and the child. naturally, he published some sounds and the neighbors always see everything, who is burying there, and so on. it was all visible. they reported this crime. for one simple reason. some may even have been afraid. you never know that a man killed his child, perhaps his hand will rise to kill his neighbor. you never know what kind of elderly people could be there yuri and you understand those people who were inactive, who didn’t believe sochi doesn’t need to interfere in this story, brother, that means i won’t extradite my brother. i am a neighbor and will not spoil relations with my neighbor. i am there neighbor. why do i need this and so on and so on. that is , we will protect the atmosphere of our village so as not to quarrel, then god forbid it gets out of here. and she knows about me, about my skeletons, and this is where the cheese board begins. let's better not

touch it. and the horror is that these people are sitting with this man, with this woman, they are all communicating with a murderer, a murderer. they are talking to her. they know who the killer is, who destroyed the child, bury him, actually drown him, like a kitten. this is some kind of horror. i have no words to say that i don’t denis goes to bed after the neighbor told you about the crime, what happened next. i tell him it’s time to warm up then take off there and go and admit it. and this makes sense to me, that is, a small child, after all, that is. well, or i’ll have to do it myself, because i mean, i won’t carry it inside me and keep it. and what did she answer to that? he was silent about how he reacted. he even began to work further, and then after about two hours it disappeared. damn, it was approximately five o'clock in the evening. just left you. yes, that is, he left me, but i already realized that he would not return. i go to the police department and this whole thing, that is,

a fact, i outline and tell the police. well , of course they didn’t believe me, because it was a week, that is, complete silence, but i live 5 houses away. that is, i see, i see that there are no results, no people come, no looking, no digging. i have decided to apply already. that is, the police chief turned to the bosses. yes, they took up this matter. that is , they directly took more money. that is, they we've arrived. they began to look for him, searched, searched, searched to no avail alexey and why the police didn’t believe denis’s words the first time is difficult to say and give a legal answer to this question, besides the fact that this is a direct violation of the law when a person comes and sets out in detail. eh, that he has information about a crime committed, not just some stolen item, not just some kind of garbage a person threw somewhere in

the wrong place, but he reports a murder, the murder of a newborn, what is this? in that the same day they were supposed to accept applications, start carrying out hereditary verification activities, conduct an inspection of the scene of the incident , and ask all witnesses and check the facts that were stated in denis’s statement, but in the end the police found him and found him. he fully admitted his guilt. and what is characteristic is that he admitted even in moments that he did not tell me. so he said that he drowned. and he told me that he came from fishing, went home and saw a child in a bucket, his wife asked him to roll him up in tulle from under the curtain and bury the mother of god. why do you think denis told the person one version, and when did the investigation get another? a criminal case is being investigated, and when investigators approach the interrogation of a suspect

or accused, they already have sufficient information about the circumstances. e of this crime. and when the interrogation is carried out by professional persons. yes, from the point of view of a critical attitude towards the interrogated person, the information that he gives, that he remembers, about which he tells some information can be treated more confidentially. that is, he is already beginning to remember the shadows of the nuances, uh, that actually happened, and he shared with a friend. well , this was what bothered me about his fiancé. denis yes, maybe he wanted to justify it somewhere , embellish it, and so on. and when interrogated by a professional investigator. moreover, this was clearly interrogated by an investigator from the investigative committee. this is not the jurisdiction of the police, of course. he probably already remembered how it all happened, and indeed these testimonies will form the basis of correct qualifications. qualifications because that look, one story, when he helped

bury an already dead child, and the second story, when he was the direct perpetrator of the crime. when together he, uh, that means fulfilled the objective side, that is, he drowned this child. i held him still alive in my hands. yes, radically different. that is, if we are talking about qualifications, that is, here, if a mother killed a newborn child immediately after giving birth, then the punishment can be up to 5 years in prison. what if they killed a living child together? having discussed this plan, it is murder up to life imprisonment. denis, your neighbor’s wife was also detained, her and him. yes, and the wife admits her guilt, the wife. yes, she showed what she arrived, that is. and approximately where it was buried. that is, this is information not only for witnesses to track, right? who do you think drowned the baby? well, to be

honest, i believe that my mother drowned because they had conflicts. before that, as i told him, they were fighting because there was someone else’s child. what do you think, is this the mother did it and the father did it. you know, most likely, this is a man, because after all, childbirth is a high-cost process ; a woman often after childbirth, not that it’s difficult to drown anastasia, most likely, they gave birth together. he cut the umbilical cord, took the child and placed him in a vessel of water. but the neighbor of the accused does not believe that he is capable of killing a child, although he was a witness when the man was detained in the studio arthur for god . hello, how did you find out about the tragedy that happened in the evening, the police officers knocked on my door, could you be a witness? i

i say what happened, he says to the neighbor. we need to drive up. i got into the car. we drove up to our neighbor. i immediately think that the neighbor could have done something like this, so that i could be understood there, and you are generally located far from each other in the area. they blossomed to the end of the garden. so, they ask the neighbor, he says, they said they showed it. where to dig well, did they start digging? i asked a police officer, i said, what and what are you digging, i say, 6 years ago, he says a child was buried here, where i was simply in shock. i have this chocolate i was in a state of mind, how can i bury a child like that? neighbors, lord, i just couldn’t even exalt such a thing because i know my neighbor quite well, he has such a gentle character. he is me and i

have encountered each other at work, roughly speaking, he wouldn’t even hurt a fly. i think he couldn't do it. he showed and told how exactly he dealt with the newborn child. started to drown. how long did you stand aside? i took my tongue from these shots that we just saw, the men are behaving very confidently and everything is clearly shown. well most likely, he did this and, most likely , this person was told from the inside every day that he needed to repent. and now, finally , the hour has come when everyone has already learned about what happened,

and he shows it all. in fact, he remembered well how he did it. and what surprises me is this moment, because he, uh, when he told his friend and neighbor, he didn’t go and dig up this little body. that is , he just ran away. yes, but i didn’t go, i didn’t dig. he knew where he was buried. this suggests that he still understood that it would come moment of criminal punishment. what do you think? i think here they discussed it for a long time and it was a spontaneous moment. just take it and drown it and discuss it for a long time. long quarrels of the theory of the child not me from him to save the man to keep them from the relationship system. so there was an idea. no more confident than she is. and she began to persuade him to do it. this is how we need to do this. we need to hide this and so on. arthur what do you think, which of them got the idea? second? well, i think it’s more likely his wife. because he

still has an eleven-year-old child. he is alive. this is a child. oh, they had a child together. and how your neighbor treated him. he loves him very much and always took care of him. and when that happened, we met with him. he says they are even divorced. he says, we need to, he says, go to his wife and take him to her home. that is, she gave it to him periodically. he came with this child. he was always pure and pleasant, and when they lived together and when they divorced, when they divorced a long time ago, probably about six years ago. they divorced after that case, it turns out that at the time of the crime, their common child was 5-6 years old. and he could see it all. so he could see. how long did she give birth? she didn't give birth in 5 minutes. she could spend hours in labor screaming at alexander if the child saw all this. would he really not have said anything about this to anyone during these 6 years? he might not have seen it. overall, he could hear something going on. they could just not let us in, even if they were in

a five-year-old state. at that moment we do not know what was happening. what was the conflict? he could just as well have fallen under the hot hand of this under the same um, let's say so. e negative adrenaline which influenced the murder of the youngest child. and the older one could have gotten hurt. and he could even tell someone , a child. you just can’t believe it in a kindergarten in a nursery school. they could not believe it, they could not betray the meaning. or the parents could say that it is impossible to say, convince or frighten, everything could happen. yana, if this is so, if a child, five or six years old , saw all this, his psyche is probably damaged and damaged forever. well, of course, of course, this will give an imprint. but this is how it will manifest itself, right? that is, here we can only assume that in the future, having seen all this, but, of course, this can push the child to develop aggression, because

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the wife of the forest resident said that he should do this. i rolled up my tulle and buried it in the garden, then i went and buried my neighbor’s secret. denis immediately decided to tell the police and the officers detained my neighbor. he admitted his guilt in full and showed the place where he buried the child. they found him 3-4 days later. now, i can't understand how a woman can to love one child, yes, the older one and treat the second one so cruelly, perhaps she didn’t really love the first child either. well, it’s impossible for this child, mom and for this child. i’m not a mom, this is very strange, or really these conflicts with my husband are that he constantly nagged her, that this is not my child. this is not the sea. perhaps this is true, but for me again. well, this man can't be matter. it seems to me that there was

some kind of critical situation here. at this moment and in this way, maybe she she wanted to keep her husband, who was already going to leave and was going to leave her, and she blackmailed with the help of her unborn child. that is, her love was so strong. as i understand it, she was ready to sacrifice his life, and it didn’t matter. well, that is, you can see these hormones at that moment. they really predominate and the child. it doesn’t matter to her whether he is alive or not, so i think that she manipulated nina’s husband in this way, but as soon as the terrible truth was revealed to the child. they had to react immediately, at least place a specialist institutions and go to court, if not for deprivation of parental rights, then at least for restriction. and after such a terrible crime, aren’t the parents automatically able to resolve their rights; they can’t only through the courts. and if this woman

gives birth to more children, the mother will not have them. clean up, and a woman has the right to give birth, no one can forbid this, but no one will automatically deprive her of parental rights; the moment was in the village, uh, with my mother. well , now i don’t even know if both parents are in custody and the child is without guardianship, then there are several options for the development of these events. the first option is to place the child in a special temporary detention center where minors are kept. children - the second option is that the child can be placed under temporary guardianship. already organs. guardians select a family temporarily and transfer the child there until the issue of parental rights is resolved. uh, under the accused and i would like to note that in case of deprivation of parental rights, of course. eh, here we

are saying, she didn’t kill, she killed, but let’s say the verdict hasn’t arrived yet. there has been no verdict yet. now, when there is a verdict, when the court has established all the circumstances of the commission of this crime, then in the event of initiation of this procedure, the judicial procedure will be carried out by the authorities, guardianship and trusteeship. the court will decide, is it valid for the remaining child? there is a threat to his life and health, and if there is such a threat, then the court is obliged to make a decision on deprivation of parental rights. rights if the court does not find in the circumstances a previously committed crime. eh, such a threat, then the court might refuse to deprive him of his rights, so for a while he will be transferred, maybe under temporary guardianship, and then she will come out and exercise parental rights . the accused is afraid that the woman’s eldest child may end up in a foster family, so deliberately take him under your care

in the studio. hello, i learned about what happened from my neighbor, of course, we were shocked right away from the very beginning, because, well, basically, i can’t wrap my head around it. how did all this happen? but it was confirmed later by the police, they confirmed it. well, of course, i still don’t want to believe it, but i understand that now you are also worried about your sister’s child, they offered to take his care. i agree to take it. but at that moment they asked me what my financial situation was. i said that at the moment i am divorced. i myself have two children, rented housing and this moment. i'm not working yet, i'm on maternity leave. i’m ready to take him there for the weekend if they allow me to attend various clubs with him and go somewhere, that is, some kind of entertainment centers. or also come and visit him if no one can take him, and now this child

where is he? well, how is it? maybe he's in a boarding school somewhere? maybe he is there now? for now, yes, but your sister only had two children , no, she also has a younger son, he is three or four years old. he, but he stayed with live with father. oh, so she still had children. how did this happen? why does he live with his father? well, because it is he who was born from him, that is, it is his directly, and the eldest one comes from his first marriage, but he probably did not want to keep her for himself, because that’s how everyone was born from different men. and how did your sister feel about the fact that her youngest son remained with his father and did not communicate, so there was no reason to even put the situation together, that is, well, the idea was that they no longer maintained contact, as they were taken under investigation and that's it, i just have one question you haven't seen. and that she's pregnant? are you not communicating? so

close? this is your dear sister and cousin, we communicated at that moment when she was not, s- this is still married to me, that is, she was not in the family, that is, when, uh, she got married. i got married. everyone has already become their own family and they began to see each other much less often. and even if she was pregnant, she was quite a very large woman in her own right. and even if she is pregnant, well, he will be. personally, i wouldn’t notice here, she’s thin, and that’s it. thin. yes, she was bigger. yes, there is one that is twice as large. unfortunately, there are even episodes when she is very large. as you say, it happens that even these very large women themselves do not notice their pregnancy for a certain period. there up to five to six months. they think it's a cycle delay. it’s just some kind of hormonal imbalance due to some kind of dysfunction to the point of colic, there’s gas and that’s it. the rest is this woman in the photo. believe that it was necessary not to notice that she

was pregnant with such a complexion, it is unlikely. if exactly, she looked like 6 years ago, as in this photograph, her stomach would be clearly visible daria do you even believe that your sister could drown her own child ? honestly, no, but as the facts add up, they are all obvious, then the only thing left is believe it, but the fact is that your sister’s husband told two versions of the investigation. he told that it was only he who drowned the child, and denis to his friend. he said that it was his wife who drowned the child. do you think how it really was, well, how would we really be? in fact, i don’t know, but i saw an investigative experiment that was shown on tv, which took place directly in their house, where it all happened, and he said that he drowned him in a bucket, they put him on some kind of rag. she wrapped it up, and the two of them went together to bury it in the garden. did you even know this man? you knew him and talked to him. when did she just start living with him

or were they already there? they were married. she decided to introduce him to him. i came to visit them, but why should i tell her right away? she said that i am not happy with this man, he is rude, he is ill-mannered. he's a swearer. maybe he offended. yes , according to her and repeatedly pressed on her sister, he beat her during pregnancy, when she was pregnant. he beat her and kicked her all over with a stick. she hid and hid with neighbors and came to spend the night with us, another beautiful son. no, i can’t say, because when they didn’t have such a conversation, what did she say there so that he could give it to his son there or something or something else yuri after i heard that you still think that the woman is to blame for what happened. i think all the initiatives came from a woman, because , well, for various reasons. maybe it’s because all this has already become a burden. sory with the child is not his and you are scared that

there are a thousand reasons for losing a man, when there are, then, it seems to me, she already had an idea to somehow get rid of this creature even before the birth. this does not happen spontaneously for a long time, and they are the most terrible pillar for me. these people were still discussing this together. they are sitting here and discussing what we we’ll figure out what we’ll do, sit down, and you have a different opinion, initially. it seemed to me that she, on the contrary, was controlling him. that's why he's trying to cover her up. yes, now, when daria described, ah, a man, then everything is absolutely different, but it seems to me that yes, the initiative came from a woman, because she wanted, supposedly, to make amends for her guilt, because this is not her child. well , then don’t say that this is your child , the accused, by the way, also doesn’t believe that he could drown the child. let's get a look. with a man who admitted to infanticide

, 38-year-old elena samoilova was in a relationship in 2018. they even lived together , says the woman of her former lover. she remembered him as a calm and non -conflict person. at least until he wets his throat, she raised her hand at me, but well, to say the least, he didn’t hit me too hard, he killed me and threw something like that, with whatever he got. but when he was sober, he was, of course, calm. he will clean everything himself, he will cook, if in relation to her a man could afford too much, then for his child from the first marriage. he didn’t even raise his voice, he remembers the woman, and the child came to us to buy clothes, we had a fight, because of this he gave everything to him. she didn’t ask me anything on the internet and i still can’t believe it, i can’t say that he

could kill a child. i won't believe this for anything in my life. maybe he raised his hands against the woman there, but so that i can’t say anything to the child, i could take the blame upon myself. you can protect your wife. it’s terrible when you know he’s beaten, but you don’t really know. is the drowned baby really not the only child who was disposed of in cold blood? she wrapped him in some kind of sweatshirt and threw him into an abandoned house. yes, and other people will take the child’s life and will love and grow and just invest their souls, but here someone is simply inhuman. this is just a killer, shocking details in a couple

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will not keep this moment to myself, that is, i will not hide it silently. i went to the police myself now, the ex -spouses and the consequences, the cousin, the accused thirty-year-old daria kosykh said in our studio. she wants to take their eldest child under her care. the child goes to my sister's power of attorney and my blood to the mercy of fate. throw the child. i won't be able to study. why is this man telling denis’s neighbors and brother about all this, that is, it turns out. he doesn't hide it, but at the same time he himself does not go to the police and does not surrender, one can only assume that he was really tormented by this situation, that he experienced some kind of internal torment for six years and the fear of receiving some kind of punishment for this. that's why he hid his subconscious and said that he had to go

tell him, but the thought she said, why? you will get a prison term for this and will be punished alexey. what do you say? i think that this version is the most disclaimer. it takes place , of course, if we listened to arthur now. here's his ex-lover we are drawing a portrait, but it’s quite a pretty person and now attention. what is the motive for these actions? why does this not coincide with the investigative experiment, that is, the logic is that he incriminates himself in order to shield his wife for what he is doing. he does all this for his eleven-year-old child, because he understands that if his mother is imprisoned, then the child will be worse off, and therefore he takes the blame for the murder so that this child will remain with his mother. that's what they do it for. could totally say that i wrapped it up, that mother he tells us the experiment. into the fabric and went together. yes, no mother

will give it if she does not have such a desire and thought. she would never let her child get her throat torn out just to fight. i don’t know for sure how to run away from the child. she wanted to get rid of him. there, from the beginning or from some stage of pregnancy, but you understand, the woman cannot take the life of her child. this is impossible, but a normal, adequate woman looks at all this. i'm heartbroken . it would even be easier for me accept all this if the child was already born dead. honestly, because i hear it all. i can’t wrap my head around it at all, because i watch other versions, well. well, this is barbaric. let's listen to the official commentary of the investigative committee. yes, maybe something is happening: the murder of a young child by a group of people by prior conspiracy under such an article, tambov researchers have opened a criminal case. in

relation to a 37-year-old resident of the village of bokkina and his former 31-year-old spouses, the accused while at home in the village of bokina, tambov municipal circle, she was born a child in school. due to the fact that the soup is suspected there is no child. they jointly decided to drown him and then bury him in the garden plot of their household. the remains of the child were found only in august 2023. actions aimed at establishing all the circumstances of the crimes committed and his we are talking about the fact that they had a common intent to commit this crime. this means that they both realized that they will do. they foresaw what they would do. they understood. what consequences do they expect from what they have done? this is what this means from the point of view of the law. how could this be expressed? it could be expressed in a conversation when they were together. and then she gave birth, and they decided to do it, or it was expressed at some stage of pregnancy, where they decided.

listen, it’s too late to have an abortion now. i could already die from this, but we don't need it. you and i will decide. come on, how to be born. we will solve this issue together if alexey, this was a joint decision, then the punishment for them will be the same, accordingly. well, of course, the question of punishment here will definitely not be the same, because she is one woman and another man, the second question. she just gave birth and he was the direct perpetrator, so the punishment will be determined based on many factors, including involvement in objective actions, how was it? she gave birth to him, handed it over to him, or she held it, he drowned the basin, or as he shows hereditary experiment. he took it and did it himself, what was the agreement on how to complete the crime. such. here are the nuances. all of them will form the basis of punishment in accordance with the law of punishment. we must have it individually and assigned

in accordance with the degree and nature of the public danger of the crime. and if god forbid it is established that this is not the first and not the last child. whose life was this mother so cut short that uh i want to point out that when investigating violent crimes, when they bring uh to criminal charges responsibility, the suspect, the accused , the involvement of this person in the commission of similar crimes is mandatory verified, so we do not exclude that case. it was the mother. this means she is also involved in other crimes, including murders. andrey. what do you think, a woman who drowned a child. maybe repeat it one day? this again, maybe the suspect neighbor believes that more than one child in the elena

ivleeva studio suffered at her hands. do you know the suspects well? how long have you known her, since she was three years old? so you grew up nearby, or something, in the same yard in the same village in the same village? and according to your emails, how many children does she have? the first son is nine years old, the second one turns out to be a drowned third boy, two years old, the fourth turns out to be. and she took it and took it to a neighbor and threw it in the snow, oh my god. is this true, elena? yes? i know something about this , the latest cases, december, which was uh, her husband calls and says, so and so your sister is in intensive care. i think, well, what happened, that he beat her and knocked her down, why did she

lies in intensive care, she gave birth, says at home, at home, the child was born dead, as he said, and she wrapped him in some kind of sweatshirt and threw him into an abandoned house. my god, my god , i wanted to go to the hospital where she was lying. it’s clear that no one allowed me into the intensive care unit; the attending physician came out. her doctor said that her condition was moderately stable and she would be transferred to the ward on monday. that is , to want to come to the fact that when i called on monday, i wanted to come to her to find out what she would tell me about this and what she would tell me she said, i don’t want to see anyone, after this situation we stopped communicating with her. well, at least bury your baby, and you know something about this, he, in principle, is the same story from the words of the police officer, also yes, a child born to her. that's right, a different man. that's right, yes, judging by this. well, in this

situation it doesn’t surprise me anymore. she is used to not being responsible for her actions. that is, this cold-blooded person simply does what she did the first time. it happened a second time and that’s it, that is, the person didn’t even thinks about it in general. why give birth? i have so many close friends who cannot have happy families. they suffer to spend. there money, crazy strength, nerves are born here. well, let other people take the life of the child and they will love and raise him, they will simply invest their souls, but here there is some kind of simply inhumanity. i don’t know that this is nothing at all, just nothing, what do you say for such a woman. i can't call her mother. i think it's the best. this is a life sentence so that she never commits such acts again and deprivation parental rights, because here she definitely cannot give it to the eldest

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to speak, the hot nickname pocket shot six people, and the court sentenced him to compulsory treatment. an unhealthy movement has begun. i can say the same about you. oh, you guys shouldn't be like that. the first department today at 20:00 can't wait on ntv beyond the border, this is beyond the border of the tambov region, former spouses are accused of murdering a newborn child, a terrible crime, a man and a woman hid it for six years in 2017, the accused, while at home in the village of bokina , tambovskaya street in the district, gave birth to zhukov's child. due to the fact that the suspect soup was not the amount of the child. they jointly decided to drown him, and then bury it on your

property. this is not their only ruined child, the monsters’ neighbor, 41-year-old elena ivleva, is confident that according to her, the accused had at least five children , the eldest, the second is going heated , she gave birth to the third, she took the fourth to an orphanage, the fourth is alive, she gave birth to the fifth and cut the umbilical cord of the child. died and she took it to the neighbors and laid it against the fence in the snow. alexey, if it is proven against these monsters, what kind of sentence they still face, taking into account everything that has been heard. i would like, first of all, you know what the question is it should be noted that we have a state program, which is connected with the fact that in maternity hospitals there are so-called anonymous booths. that is, this is a tray where a woman can come and put it? uh, the baby she gave birth to? this is exactly why this is done, so that this is the moment when a woman makes a decision for herself what to do with a child that she does not

need. she could have disposed of it in exactly this way and not gone to extreme measures. i don't know how much i remember what it is the program is developing and i would like to note that it is not just that this is not an isolated case. that is, what we are discussing now is not an isolated case of such a murder of the mother of a newborn. this is a certain system. this time is a definite problem. and this is a question that requires not only legal attention, but also general social attention, because these reasons why mothers do this are very deep, as for your question about punishment, the punishment for a crime in part two article 105 of the criminal code of the russian federation can reach up to life imprisonment, but life imprisonment is not assigned to women, and to a man, accordingly, if he is involved only in this crime. we understand that the percentage is 90. it will also not be assigned a punishment, from my point of view. they will get approximately eight to 14 years. imprisonment. this is the limit. what if

all these terrible words about other children are confirmed? we don’t know whether she is being charged for this episode as an independent crime. eh, as far as i heard after all, that she gave birth to a stillborn child and abandoned him, yes. well, it’s easy to attribute it simply from which he breathed, but lived, but it is very important that the intended punishment takes into account the personality of the criminal, including her. with criminal behavior and the behavior that he had throughout his life, if these facts are established unconditionally, they will end up in the materials of the criminal case, because of course. this will form the basis for imposing a more severe punishment daria and you will fight for taking away my sister's eldest son. so, yes, i will try to get the guardianship authority to allow it. if not, it means at least to take it to him on the weekends. if daria