[000:00:00;00] mountainous karabakh ball the authorities of the unrecognized republic are disbanding the army , what can we expect from yerevan now if armenia itself admitted that karabakh is the honor of azerbaijan, a complete failure while the terrorist zelensky is out congress and nato decided to save on the maintenance of the kiev regime. and there are questions for zelensky, where is the reporting, where is the money and the deputies will not catch up with us from the new year, they will switch to russian cars. will government procurement become the engine of the industry? this is where the domestic automotive industry begins. watch it now. hello, is this meeting place on ntv a place where everything becomes clear? i'm andrey norkin my colleague ivan trushkin. we are working live.

naturally, we will start today again with news, and from transcaucasia as you remember, yesterday, literally about an hour before the start of our program, the azerbaijani authorities announced that they were starting an operation on the territory of nagorno-karabakh to restore constitutional order. wording. well, in general, we can say that this operation lasted for a day, because here it is again at 13:00 moscow time. that is, an hour before we go on air. this operation was completed and the authorities and karabakh announced that they were placing weapons in baku and separately explained that i will now quote the ceasefire, the fire was achieved through the mediation of the command of the russian peacekeeping contingent. so this, if briefly now we want with details, take it straight to you. such a big piece of air for yourself, because we need to remind you before the story. then let’s take it in order, then we will involve our guests in the conversation. so, the ministry of defense of azerbaijan announced somewhere in the afternoon that an agreement had been reached, and when

the anti-terrorist operation in karabakh was stopped from 13:00 on wednesday, the authorities of nagorno -karabakh agreed to lay down their arms. according to the agreements reached, all armenian armed forces located in karabakh will be disbanded combat positions and military posts are completely disarmed. again, as stated in the ministry of defense of azerbaijan, the withdrawal of the armenian military will be provided in coordination with russian peacekeepers. it is expected that tomorrow in the city of yelah they will sell negotiations between the authorities of nagorno-karabakh and azerbaijan will discuss the future of the region russian peacekeepers - this is not a simple situation. i continue to provide assistance to the civilian population of nagorno-karabakh. this also applies to medical assistance and evacuation. as stated in our ministry of defense, our peacekeeping contingent, which is now in karabakh, quickly began evacuating the civilian population from the armed zone

conflict as of this morning. 2,261 people were taken to a safe place. moreover, these are all civilians, and of these civilians there are more than a thousand. the evacuation of children and the provision of medical assistance continues now under the command of the contingent. as our ministry of defense reports again, it is in close contact with all parties to the conflict. well, our russian foreign ministry released a separate statement, it says. i 'll try to be closer to the text now. it says that the status of russian peacekeepers, who since their deployment in the region conscientiously carried out tasks to contain the ceasefire and ensure contacts between the fighting. yerevan changed this status. this happened after the armenian authorities officially recognized nagorno-karabakh as part of the territory of azerbaijan and this step radically changed the fundamental conditions under which a tripartite agreement was concluded between the leaders of moscow baku and yerevan in 2020. the armed forces

of azerbaijan report that in karabakh , 90 positions of local armed formations have already come under their control. here you see filming the azerbaijani side, seven armored vehicles, one tank, two combat vehicles, infantry and four mortars, nikol pashinyan, in turn, spoke in style. there he stated that yerevan took into account baku’s statement on karabakh, but in negotiations. this is an important point that the government of armenia did not participate in, and the point about the withdrawal of the armenian armed forces from karabakh, indicated in the text of the message that was distributed today, is not clear. why it is not clear, armenia, according to pashinyan, did not have an army in this region. from august 2021 in the kremlin they state that in this regard, yerevan’s accusations against russia over karabakh are groundless, because azerbaijan, de jure and de facto, is conducting military operations on its territory. the first criterion is

a trilateral agreement, for 21-22 years, which were signed on the basis of which efforts were made to peacefully regulate existing problems. and the second also extremely important criterion is the present moment, when prime minister pashinyan announced his recognition of the borders of azerbaijan in 1991 . this means that armenia is armenian the party recognized karabakh as an integral part of azerbaijan and azerbaijani territory, that is, the present time. uh. this is a significant change, of course, the situation. and we do not accept such trousers. e your address, moreover, after the official decision of the armenian country to recognize

karabakh as part of azerbaijan, now we are talking about the actions of the azerbaijani e republic on its territory after reports of agreements on karabakh, which came today, residents of yerevan began to gather near the building of the armenian government in the center it is located in yerevan and it is clear that the building is now cordoned off by security forces. people continue to gather around the building the night before , individual characters. in yerevan, they thought of organizing a protest rally in front of the russian embassy. they even tried to block our diplomatic mission; as a result of the action, five people were detained, but this cannot be compared with what was happening that night and in the evening at the army government building. hundreds of people came out to the building to protest, they accused the prime minister of the country. carrying out a treacherous policy, which led to an aggravation in nagorno-karabakh between protesters and the police . you see, there were vocal clashes

with police throwing stones, throwing plastic bottles at them and using stun grenades against the protesters. as a result, more than 30 people were detained, but andreevich i hope that the rallies are at the russian embassy. let them be few in number. it won't happen again today. so here it is. well, let's, uh, lade had one that was so big. uh, fragment of connection with today's events. here are the latest ones. and then let me give you a backstory, how i would take it upon myself, together with my colleagues, to make the material. let's see. the armed conflict in nagorno -karabakh broke out back in 1991, when the armenian population of the region declared independence from azerbaijan , baku decided to regain control over karabakh through military action. armenia intervened and the war lasted for 3 years. until, finally. on may ninety-four , a truce was not declared for the nagorno-karabakh republic the international community never recognized it, just as armenia itself did not recognize it. but azerbaijan did everything. at this time, karabakh was considered a territory occupied by armenians as

a result of the fall of 2020. the azerbaijani army, significantly strengthened with the help of its allies in the person of turkey, launched an iron fist operation against complete defeat. the armenians were saved only by russian intervention hey growls in november 2020, a trilateral ceasefire agreement was signed between moscow baku and yerevan, according to its terms, azerbaijan expanded its territory. including borrowed in the historical and strategically important city of shusha, the armenians gained control of the lachin corridor, which connected them with karabakh. russian peacekeepers were stationed in karabakh itself to monitor the situation and were informed of no other way out, except for signing the statement. the decision was made as a result of an analysis of the military situation and based on the assessments of people who are best familiar with the military situation. we must understand that our army fought against

the terrorists of the second nato army and the azerbaijani army, this is the most beneficial for us option. this is actually a military surrender of armenia, we achieved everything we wanted, i actually gave them an ultimatum. having truced karabakh, the armenian position perceived the surrender of territories as mass protests began in yerevan, an angry crowd called prime minister pashinyan a traitor and demanded a revision of the agreement for our people and for our country. and if this power is not swept away. well, in the near future, well, armenia may come to an end, then the armenia that we knew, which pashinyan loved, accused the armed forces forces in the coup attempt and began to regularly

take his supporters out onto the streets. as was said in defense of democracy, in april 2021, pashinyan resigned, but only for the sake of the overkill, which he won by dissolving parliament, a new aggravation in karabakh began in august 2022, then secretary of state blinken hurried to washington to help pashinyan, gathered the heads of the armenian foreign ministry in new york and american interns visit azerbaijan more often. to armenia, we support armenia during a difficult time in the world. these are difficult times. we are located. now. in the midst of the battle between democracy and autocracy, azerbaijan, meanwhile, completely blocked the lachin corridor, and the pashinyan reefs held several meetings in brussels, moscow, chisinau, even in ankara, but at the meeting in prague in the fall of 2022, it was not hall pashinyan, imanuel macron, or the boor aliyev and charles michel adopted a statement according to which yerevan and baku recognized each other’s territorial integrity and sovereignty; for armenia this means that it recognizes

baku’s rights to these lands of 86,600 m², the territory of azerbaijan includes nagorno-karabakh if we understand each other correctly, then armenia recognizes the territorial integrity of azerbaijan within the named limits and the territorial integrity of armenia in 29. 1,800 m² immediately after this yerevan began to make claims against moscow , the pashinyans stated that the russian peacekeepers were allegedly not fulfilling their mission, and russia had surrendered the region then pashinyan decided to recall his representative at the ocb and articify the roman status of the nato alliance appreciated this and promised to think about someday accepting the armenians, in the meantime, the american the soldiers arrived in armenia for training. now president aliyev tells me, well, you know that armenia recognized that karabakh is ours, that the question of the status of karabakh no longer stands,

it was decided by the armenian leadership. she publicly stated this, counting the entire territory before 1991 within the framework of the azerbaijani ussr , uh, and naming a figure that includes, uh, which includes, of course, the territory of karabakh itself. this happened. this is not our decision, this is the decision of the armenian leadership today. well, what should we say here? there is nothing to say if armenia itself admitted that karabakh is part of azerbaijan, so armenia admitted that karabakh is part of azerbaijan, in general, all the information that was necessary. we are similar to you provided or one. is it possible to say that, uh, well, for more than 30 years of this conflict periodically, but the military that turned into a conflict

has not been staged, right? if yes, options for development or if suddenly no also options for the development of the situation, in my opinion it is too early to say that the point has been set. but it is already clear that the current the surge in tension quickly fades away, and in this sense we are talking about some kind of long-term conflict. now we can’t, uh, and because uh, there has been talk that now the hotbed of tension in nagorno-karabakh will last a long time in the hot state, this will not happen and now they will begin to negotiate aside, but the end will be set when on this bill, specific documents will be signed; they have not yet been signed. the situation on earth has, of course, changed radically . and here we still need to find out. uh, what's that the further status of the presence of russian

peacekeepers in the conflict zone. what is the status of the same nagorno-karabakh and what agreements will be reached and we must also understand that there are still many interested parties, quite a lot of the same americans and the european union are playing their own game erdogan has now invited russia to armenia and azerbaijan to play their game, how to get them out of -under the influence of large major overseas players and their allies, but this will be extremely difficult to do and obviously the same americans and europeans will try put a spoke in the wheels of any agreements if they sense that these agreements will be in particular in favor of russia. and here you said some documents need to be signed. it will indicate, and some documents are generally necessary; there are statements , for example, the minister of armenia who says this is the territory of azerbaijan. azerbaijan defended the constitutional order on its territory. what documents are needed for

a long-term conflict? uh, this conflict goes back even to the period before the collapse soviet union when it all escalated. you explain it wrong. yes, that is, some more separate documents are needed on karabakh, despite the fact that armenia officially recognizes this part of its azerbaijan or whether some kind of agreements will now be needed on the relations between azerbaijan, including karabakh with the army and modern armenia, yes. that is, as if karabakh is out of the picture. this “what should be outside the brackets” has been taken out quite a long time ago and every time it led to a surge of tension, that is, even now. there is a chance still determine the status of karabakh itself within azerbaijan, what will this status be? like what corridors will connect uh , with armenia and so on, and a bilateral agreement is also necessary between armenia

and azerbaijan regarding the status of karabakh lena unfortunately for me, unfortunately, everything is clear statuses there will be no as there is no status for the serbian region. eh, which the croats simply dealt with in 3 days and that’s it. this is the position. this will not be anything olive describes, because aliyev is the winner this must be admitted. like this. well, overall a winner. yes, even, in general, well, as we must admit, and now next, what should be the subject of these negotiations. accordingly, there must be negotiations there. i 'm thinking about how to ensure a safe exit. the armenian population is from karabakh because they have to stay there. i think it’s impossible, because it will be something like the sudeten germans after the war, but it needs to be different from how they came out, and at the same time the czechs mocked them and killed them. i absolutely don’t believe it, but i covered this war

more. now, when it was 2 weeks from the time the armenians took shusha, on may 8, 1992. i was in stepanakert, and in shusha there were also azerbaijanis, like they were firing from above, so there is such hatred there that they should live together. and if someone hopes for a great soul, uh, k, azerbaijan will simply not be defeated from this , because the degree of bitterness is colossal and in azerbaijan the national heroes are safarov , the man who became famous for the azerbaijani officer who hacked to death a sleeping armenian . they had some nato ones there courses. well, as i understand it, the issues of evacuation of civilians are now eh? well, at some initial stage it is decided. so this is what we do. we are the ones who bring people out. they will somehow do something to the armenian uh leaders and withdraw themselves. and that's

the question. well, first of all, this is a humanitarian issue. well, the salvation of tens of thousands of people is already a question for our future. i'm trying to understand, if it's not cold and his, well, there team they say that uh, that means karabakh is the territory of azerbaijan, they now say that there are no the armed forces of armenia are not there. they say that they have not taken any part in any agreements now. i want to understand, but these people are armenians, they are refugees, uh, pashinyan’s team is with them, they are yes, who will feel their fate, not just somehow in the head. well, who helps you sympathize? i think there will be little sympathy, because they are pashinyan’s team, where they should be in armenia. i think some part in russia is ultimately speaking. no why there is a lot of time now. let's give everyone more to say there is no fuss to do everything so that in

armenia for the benefit of in armenia there is a humanitarian catastrophe with these people for the simple reason for the same reason that pashinyan successfully surrendered karabakh his task is to oust russia from the south caucasus from armenia in particular in order to you need to make a statement in your pocket to blame russia. and now blame russia for all the disasters that will be supported. i 'm trying to understand one simple thing, which for me is probably somehow not simple. look, when pashinyan came to power. a. well, in general, then even in our studio we said that well, of course, this was some kind of, naturally, not constitutional. well, we can say that it was a coup, then several times. this means its local population. tried to drive away. even we, in this story of ours today, recalled a couple of times when they came out and shouted, “no, call, traitors, nikolai , convey that he was very eloquent.” man , we showed you, yes, let me remind you of a piece from the rally, ’22. yes, and he says that if this

power will not be swept away. here it is not displaced. he wait. he's an election. he won the new elections. now they are again walking and shouting nikol is a traitor, nikol is a traitor, but well , they will shout all this will not end in anything. well, that’s why it didn’t end in 2020. so with a high degree of probability it will end now, because first of all, no one among the top armenian politicians, except for a few people, wants to take responsibility for what will happen next in armenia. they are ready to accept refugees now and that's how vasily anatolia is not ready. this is now such a small poor country, therefore, once again refugees will not have to deal with russia, and it is even possible to implement it in russia and this is not only a humanitarian issue again, if we, uh, all 5 years that ruled after yum , we did nothing to to beat him in order to break his game of inciting the armenians, not only in armenia against russia he did this systematically. now if we leave

these refugees to their fate again , relations will win again, uh, the spin is that the russians abandoned the armenians, so these people need to be accepted. there is another important point that needs to be worked on. this is the most pro-russian residents of armenia, a resident of nagorny shipment, when except for russia there is no one to think about these people and take care of them , including the government of the country. i would not rush to conclusions regarding the fact that in armenia there is no one to shelter refugees from karabakh; there are enough people in armenia who sympathize with the karabakh people, who are furious with you feel what’s happening and get angry, but they can’t do anything. why are they in their families, regarding the acceptance of refugees. uh , presenting them with all sorts of uh, well, benefits and so on, i’ll remind you, i’ll remind you that the syrian armenians were accepted and they settled and

stayed and worked and fed them. eh, well, a sufficient amount, perhaps less than a garage, but still. what i mean is that they will accept, of course, some people, and will not stay there, but that’s not what we’re talking about now. why is it too early to put an end to this issue? let's remember that, um, the karabakh issue cannot be considered at all in isolation from, uh, the so-called zangizur corridor project , and by the way, erdogan was talking about this just now for the audience. explain very directly and connect. as a matter of fact, the whole nickname, yes, with a lot of san-clave. this is the real goal. this project is still nicknamed - this is the sovereign territory of armenia to which, as i understand it, azerbaijan also has certain claims. and if this happens, what to say now is an official statement. no, this is an official statement, i am not baku i'm making things up out of my head. if we uh, then we’ll calculate everything a few steps

ahead. and let's say that the scenario will unfold, three events will unfold according to this scenario. this is already much more serious for us than the karabakh issue. why because, if in the case of karabakh moscow can still do it? well, this is not our question. eh, armenia itself did not recognize it. more precisely, she recognized that this territory of azerbaijan is ours, but here the csto is already here. and here is iran and here is already a very serious conflict. and so, let's don't forget our viewers are not very good. well , imagine, here’s a map. well, here’s the caucasus. you can, i think, imagine that there, as it were, there is a relatively large territory of azerbaijan. well, it turns out there are four times there. here comes this one. here, it’s like an armenian stripe, and behind this stripe there is still a small piece, which is just somewhere in the city of nakhichevan. this is exactly azerbaijani territory; they have no direct communication. this is what i was talking about just now. let's red line this is this it’s really a fact that’s why the negotiations

will continue, so that i can ask whether these negotiations take things out of the equation or not. and if the negotiations end in nothing, where is the guarantee that again no one will be blown up by a mini-mini, a special operation will not begin again, but already, but here is a really important point. if baku begins some kind of operation to cut a corridor to nakhichevan, then it turns out, yes, that military operations are taking place on the territory of armenia and so on, and then the dcs agreement should give way to this issue questions key in terms of the possibility of breaking the narrative into an anti-russian narrative, pashinyan said so and will continue to say that he is essentially to blame for everything. russia did not defend karabakh. russia

did not turn out to have surrendered to russia, right? yes, yerevan itself refused the pashinians from the horizon from karabakh, there would be countries, and moreover, for several years, the pashinyans have been doing everything in order to cause damage, frankly speaking , relations with moscow, given the fact that moscow is here. imagine the situation, when you have practically one one and only ally, which is capable of providing them with military support and has already provided it. i am in the past, because in the first karabakh war, armenia won largely thanks to russia then in the nineties . there is also yes, iran is also an ally of armenia , but come back. you said that the corridor and now use your relationship with your only serious ally. how can we break something interesting to look for a movie using talk. i said this a few days ago. russia should really say it directly. at what level, not necessarily at the presidential level not even necessarily at the level of the minister of foreign affairs. although it is possible, and at the laurel level, that the entire territory, the international, recognized territory

of armenia is under the protection of the adb, and no one anyone who focuses on the territory of the sovereign territory of any members of the adb will receive a rebuff, including potentially with the support of the russian russian military and this will make it clear to ordinary armenians, who may believe in pashinyan’s anti-russian territory, that russia both adhered to the principles of the collective security treaty and and will hold it. armenia recalled its representative for tkb - this is also necessary. well, i’m talking about something else, i ran out about something else and that’s the case. wait, what threatens us is literally the word uh, one thing that is. if this fails , the consequences will be very serious, if russia fails to reverse the anti-russian narrative, or rather, that the first threat threatens us. uh, the exit of armenia is no longer officially just their representative, as they did, and the exit of armenia for such a

thing is not nothing that will prevent them from doing this. it may be that we need to do everything in order to to understand, if we offer, guys , please do not leave this company, because if something happens, we will protect you. this is a little funny, it’s not funny, because if we say that this communist party with russian support will support armenia, then we are breaking this anti-russian native on the bus. well , it’s not difficult to say that russia is not under. armenia can we now talk about western and other reactions, because iran’s reaction has been mentioned here several times. well, the reaction of western countries is western countries. they now essentially. this is what happened in the last 24 hours. they took the side of armenia but have not yet taken any concrete actions. the united states is now calling the new round of the conflict particularly egregious and particularly dangerous, but no one in particular is threatened . us secretary of state anthony blinken spoke on the phone with pashinyan and aliyev about the inadmissibility of the use of force, and also

called for an immediate ceasefire ideal. azerbaijan's unacceptable military actions risk worsening the humanitarian situation in nagorno-karabakh, we call for the european commission came to brussels for an immediate cessation of hostilities and direct dialogue on the side of armenia. she condemned azerbaijan and called on it to immediately stop hostilities . european parliament. he even called on the eu council to impose sanctions against baku, and the german foreign minister annalen. berbak promised to discuss the issue at the un general assembly with french president macron. i spoke with pashinyan on the phone and initiated an urgent meeting of the security council. the un strongly condemns the use of force by azerbaijanis in nagorno-karabakh , the offensive must stop immediately and there must be renewed discussion about the rights and safety of residents. i am in close contact with prime minister pashinyan. but iran expressed support for azerbaijan , an official representative of the foreign ministry said that his country recognizes nagorno-karabakh as part of

azerbaijan but calls for negotiations and is ready. participate ankarazhi supported the side, at all levels the turkish minister of defense assured his azerbaijani colleague that turkey today, as always, supports azerbaijan. and turkish president richardagan regarded baku’s actions as defense territorial integrity and declared this from the high rostrum of the un, as everyone now recognizes that karabakh is the territory of azerbaijan , the imposition of a different status on the region will never be accepted, we support the steps taken by azerbaijan with which we act together under the slogan one nation, two states to protect its territorial integrity. andrei vladimirovich it looks like a classic washington european game; they verbally, of course, expressed concern in every possible way, tried podshinyan was pulled away from us and thrown. no. no, that’s just explain why there is no roof than on

the mountainous karabakh anak, unfortunately, is not closed. she just moved. there's the cucumber karabakh . and on the international platform, this un general assembly in the european parliament and so on and so forth, and it will be a different matter for a long time. now a completely different aspect is not territorial integrity. there is now the most important theme that resonates in everyone and first of all the french. this is human rights genocide against the armenians, which can be and so on and so forth something like this and this topic will be discussed for a very long time, this is the first. that is, this is what she said will somehow help. or rather, endless armenia from the point of view. what will he help? this is the first and second thing regarding dkb. well, forgive me, but in this sense i am a pessimist. i’ll tell her that just now armenia has happened in the near future, and such people are like this. excuse me andreevich, if now let’s look, according to your plan, armenia is leaving the akb, then in case

something happens in the corridor, armenia is not is a member of the akb of his own free will. and even then turn to russia for help, and this is the only adviser, the french at this time behind you, with arguments about human rights in the village, troops will go, they will send a question from another , they will condemn this very thing. well, for god’s sake, negotiations are definitely underway now on signing an agreement on the possible signing of a security agreement between the united states and the army, and in the event that the akb army does not leave the bkb, the united states will take over the mountains. believe me. no, believe me, usa no, we believe you. sometimes you have to make an effort to understand how to guarantee when opportunities are sufficient. well, tell us turkey, that is, yes, azerbaijan, first of all, in this way economic political why and if in that

sense, because it’s not the answer to the question for them, why what? in the usa and especially in france , the existence of a more powerful armenian lobby can confirm. and where was it during the war? i also kept the last one for azerbaijani gas. it's clear. yes, andrei vladimirovich is coming. well, wait, sort of replaces the russian one. like, let's see what ah. come on, you won’t just offer some new arguments to us now. you answer in order. you said that means armenia will withdraw from the treaty. we are asking questions. this means that if something happens, who will they turn to for help, you tell the americans in a huge number of different ways. name at least one of the most effective ways in which the united states will guarantee security. and what is it that doesn’t bring

turkey, azerbaijan and russia closer together? let’s see this way have already become close. if the americans begin to act openly in this story , that i am absolutely not ready to argue, andrei vladimirovich, that armenia will not get out of the road accident , despite all this nonsense, it will, let pashinyan be ready for the craziest actions. i read it to you yesterday. eh, bagramyan e, 26 - this is pashinyan’s telegram channel, so she put it simply on how to deal with russian peacekeepers in quotes and the russian base, if moscow hands over to azerbaijan moscow hands over to them to the usa and the first one is given 1 month for collecting things and leaving armenia, the second is not to give the ancient ones right away. send to three letters and the third is to be placed in the basement of the russian embassy

so that nothing is accidentally threatened. ha-ha-ha, in short, with someone so irresponsible. on the move, they can really learn anything they want on emotions, but at the same time, if, nevertheless , they turn on their brains, and the wise people of the armenian people, even against the background of emotions, the brains should not turn off, then the question really arises, if time, kiev declares that erivan is armyansk and is azerbaijani khanate, and we lay claim to everything, and even to the junctures. it is generally sacred to protect. nobody can and will not, neither france, but we can figure out the niger to figure out america of america other priorities. this is all fantasy, just us. why should we defend everything, that’s me now. armenia is not loved for pashinyan’s aspirations, but look how our other allies there will react to this situation kazakhstan kyrgyzstan tajikistan which of tajikistan where are our eu bases for the maximum

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; our delegation, a delegation of our diplomats headed by sergei lavrov , minister of foreign affairs, flew there to participate in the 78th session. the un general assembly is expected that lavrov will lead our delegation and at a meeting of the security council where, perhaps, he will sit at the same table with the terrorist president zelensky at the airport , the russian foreign ministers were met by our post-president vasily nebenzya russian us ambassador anatoly antonov tass agency notes that lavrov’s board flew from moscow to new york along the northern route, overflying all sorts of unfriendly countries, while our foreign ministry was taught that permission to fly spices from the ministry was granted during , in contrast to this year, the us authorities issued visas on time and to journalists who lavrov traditionally accompany. however, this time for the first time the press pool received visas with restrictions. the movement, that is, the american side allowed our colleagues to move at a distance of no more than 40 km.

from the center of new york. that is, if for example, colleagues want to record someone or talk to someone in washington, but they can’t go there. it is still unclear whether there will be at least some contact between lavrov, uh, and zelensky. and the terrorist president himself told reuters that he is not sure that a meeting in this format is necessary. but you can already see the headlines about zelensky. yes, zelensky was disgraced by the fact that the polish president canceled the meeting. um, with my ukrainian colleague, this meeting was formally simply excluded from the polish president’s schedule, they say it didn't fit. however, as reported by polish buildings, the reason for the breakdown of negotiations was ukraine’s complaint to the wto against poland in connection with the ban on the country’s import of ukrainian grain ; in addition, the deputy minister of economy of ukraine announced a new ban; a ban on the import of polish vegetables and fruits to his country is subject to the embargo. nod polish tomatoes cabbage apples in response to this duda will remind. ahh. that

it is through his country that all kinds of aid, including military aid, arrive in transit to kiev; moreover, he compared ukraine with drowning but we are dealing with a drowning person. anyone who has ever taken part in rescuing a drowning person knows that he is extremely dangerous, that he can drag him to the depths, he has unimaginable strength due to personal fear. and the rescuer will simply drown himself; this is similar to the situation between poland and ukraine . ukraine is in a very difficult situation. she grabs everything she can. and if a drowning man doesn’t look, he will harm and drown us, he will not receive help , and the brazilian president luis did not get involved with the drowning man. sego is supported by his previously announced meeting with the president terrorist. zelensky did not take place. although in ukraine there were great hopes for this meeting, in order to try to somehow drag brazil a little to its side, so that it would not communicate so actively with russia, the cancellation of this meeting became known at the last moment

by the president of brazil after his speech at the general assembly, saying that he he flies home early because he has a headache and is tired. in general , i got sick with a hip. however, as they write, brazilian publications explain the reason for the early departure - this is the behavior of the ukrainian delegation at the head zelensky during lula’s speech, there were ukrainians in the hall. you see them now, they were the only ones in the hall who refused to applaud the brazilian president, and they also expressed their dissatisfaction in every possible way. they sat with sour faces. they looked somewhere at the floor and so on and so forth, as the brazilian press is now reporting lula so, i had no particular desire to meet with zelensky. and after the antics of the ukrainian delegation, he completely refused the meeting. but zelensky’s terrorists are waiting in the us house of representatives but there too they don’t promise him any kind of warm welcome. really. uh, speaker of the house of representatives mccarthy said that he would meet with zelensky on thursday, but said that he asked the ukrainian side

to bring a report in advance, but how does it spend american aid? when you meet with ukrainian president zelensky on thursday, you will commit to providing another package of financial assistance to ukraine. zelensky has been elected to congress. he is our president. i'm not going to promise anything. i have a question for him, where is the reporting on the money we have already spent. what is the plan to achieve victory? i think the americans want to know. if this is not a failure, then what then is a failure, so we can probably recognize andrei vladimirovich. let's just add a few more words in the next story, there are press evaluations and some more statements on this matter. show me, please. the wall street journal writes that the kiev authorities are hunting for money, and the united states and europe are already thinking about stopping financial military assistance

, the daily mail edition adds that the main mistake the west presents ukraine as some kind of absolute good in the fight against absolute evil. and in general , covering the conflict quote in crudely primitive fairy-tale terms , they openly make fun of the dominance of the ukrainian agenda even in advertising videos ukraine ukraine ukraine stop. can we talk about something else, for example, about our new burger, ukrainian patriots are dissatisfied with such hatred and write angry comments on the materials of western publications, calling them putin and kremlin, even the agent of the daughter of their bbc corporation got it pro-russian, we certainly won’t call it under the distribution of articles on the mobilization of the disabled on the front and the weaning of children from beige europe became a pro-putin publication, working according to hegels 20% truth 80% lies, based on the number of lovers of the russian world who came running,

this channel is for them, and therefore it's time to unsubscribe. but unsubscribe from you kremlin idiots? the us house of representatives decided not to include aid and its temporary spending bill writes washington exams. and hill reports that congress may even block allocating assistance to ukraine in a way that more and more internal shifts do not see the point in this, instead of guaranteeing the terrorist president zelensky a new round of funding in congress, he is required to report for the assistance already provided; nato admitted that ukraine’s requests for weapons are too high and its resources too high. the alliance also feels sorry for the volume of weapons and ammunition that ukraine requests is enormous; the scale and volume of weapons used are beyond the scope of our production capabilities. and now we we see that we are distributing weapons and at the same time ordering new ones. there is no balance in nato

between the volume of military aid supplies to ukraine and new military orders. during the same genocimlio shortly before zelensky's speech, some participants complained that because of ukraine they lack resources to help other countries, ukraine, for better or worse, has sucked all the oxygen out of the room, and we, of course, understand the need to support ukraine but in there are other hot spots in the world that are in the same deep despair, just like ukraine so we must make sure that we remind the world of the importance of the entire globe. ukraine, meanwhile, demanded that the west stop whining and continue to provide assistance to kiev, according to tradition. strict demands are put forward to partners by the head and syvo danilov. considering the electoral political cycles and the possible change in the situation in europe and the united states, from the point of view of maintaining the stability of the partnership , the step to consolidate

military assistance is considered far-sighted ukraine in long-term cycles and legislation, that is, each country must pass a law on endless military assistance, so andrei vladimirovich how to evaluate all this. well, it's all beautiful in the press. in fact, zelensky will receive another package of military assistance tomorrow and, moreover, will receive guarantees, otherwise military assistance from biden until the end of 204, so this is all beautifully written, and so on and so forth, the volume of 24 billion dollars will not be that much, of course , but the problem is that no one will refuse. from this help. nobody, europe, not the usa. no need. here we have there are illusions. what kind of things are they turning off completely? why then all these publications? is this the public? this looks like friske's company. well, this is a journalist. this is a normal thing , you know, but in fact

, the political decision has already been made. they're already used to it and that's it. anatolyevich will say not only the publication, of course, the publication, for example, it means, uh, i was driving today, i looked here , that means, and the newspaper mont well, by no means, sympathetic to russia, let’s say so, but they have the main article uh in the international section that biden with you didn't compare the two performances last year and this year about russia, why talk about it? yes, yes, last year russia was already mentioned in the third sentence. now 22 minutes after the start of the performance. in general, no matter what andrei vladimirovich said, he could not read to ukraine, less fatigue from ukraine is growing . i listened to zelensky’s entire speech because these pieces that we are used to are not enough for me. well, naturally, you don't all dance. we can't until you know the performance. in general, well, it’s completely unclear there. for what he put this one in so conceptual.

it would seem that making an attack on poland is simply showing how nervous they are, how much they justify it on emotions. it seems to me that even andrei vladimirovich, who is always right, will be difficult. it's just plain and bad. well, uh, i think it's a failure from a point of view. well, even the allies of ukraine - this is because he has so raised the stakes of the confrontation between russia and russia; his goal is the nuclear disarmament of russia, that is, the unconditional surrender of russia, but will they really sign up for this? i'm i’m not talking about the global south, but even shells and biden, who adhere to a much more cautious approach, i doubt it, i just didn’t become a politician. he continues acting and this is his main task regarding the issue of acting. it’s not without reason that er recently announced that since the fourteenth year. well, i’m not quoting, but this is the meaning of the conversation since the fourteenth year. oh, no crimea, the russians will not leave there. yes, yes, yes, yes,

yes, what is this about, but does it tell us what this indicates? well, what do they understand in turkey? we still need to return to real letik , all this, uh, abstract talk from populists about returning crimea or disarming it. yes, russia there, well, they are leading nowhere, as far as fatigue is concerned, there is really no question of whether they will stop helping tomorrow or they won’t stop tomorrow they won’t stop. i think few people in this studio from outside it will argue with this. wait for another question. how many more times will they have to help? how much earlier and in what size will representatives actually be required? as i understand it, according to american hierarchy, a third person, yes, that he will really be needed, whether the reports are real or not, but what he said about it, what i said out loud about something, an agreement a little different, was not. once again , the trench still needs to happen before ukraine shows any results. and uh, in general, will you remember, yesterday i was in this studio and

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and they added more barbed stuff about there, the official reason for the closure of the silan point, as reported by the latvian portal lsm, a threefold increase in attempts to cross the border illegally according to this latvian border guards, the average 600 people and about 90 trucks enter and leave this point every day , the state border committee of belarus says that there is no official they did not receive any notification from latvia that the point would be closed. and mutually there is a well-known procedure preparing a warning and informing the opposite side, physical obstacles will be placed on the state border, which will impede the movement of vehicles or persons across the border. we told you about how european officials in different countries will think about confiscation of russian cars that enter their territory or just say that they got out of there. but here, too, each country is defined in its own way . on tuesday, the head of the estonian foreign ministry said that the country is not going to confiscate cars with russian license plates. but he plans to retroactively sign a decree

on the period during which our russian cars need to leave estonia. the deadline was set and in finland the country closed the border to russian transport last saturday; they need to leave six months in advance. otherwise , the car will be confiscated by the latest eu sanctions. poland its border. they closed it on sunday night. norway also decided to ban today, but lithuania, which supported sanctions for russians, was hurt they have taken it even more seriously and even major news portals are urging citizens to report to the authorities. if you somewhere and ever see a car with russian license plates, you immediately telegraph and knock. but behind all this meager information data, maybe even somewhere, on some side, humorous, there are real human stories. and we understand how painful it is for people to deal with this. here we will give one example, by the way, an example from the bbc russian service means a resident of mariupol with a terminal stage, cancer, the real name of the victims

is not reported by the publication. the woman’s family had to cross the russian-estonian border in a wheelchair; as the publication writes, they went abroad a long time ago in february last year. and so, uh, this woman herself refused for a very long time, and the city has now decided on its package due to the sharp deterioration. health, according to doctors , the women planned to conduct by car. an ambulance from st. petersburg, but due to fears that the car will eventually be confiscated simply at the border. through the border point 1.5 km this sick woman’s stroller had to be pushed by her son andrei vladimirovich due to eu restrictions. i'm done, we can return to our domestic stories. the first time i just heard this story, of course, some strange route. i, of course, wish her health, but from mariupol to st. petersburg and then go to estonia, but i think this is all good with the comments about the idea of ​​​​transplanting

our officials and deputies. she is a domestically produced car. we already talked about this some time ago certain. this is how vanya talks about development, which means, if we understand correctly, the intention of the state duma deputies is from next year, when they will visit their constituencies. that is, they will go to the regions, they will have to, and they will travel exclusively in our cars, again i say, if we understand this correctly. starting next year, deputies in their constituencies must drive only russian-made cars. this decision was unanimously adopted by the state duma council on monday, an idea that has been around for several months. promoted the speaker. vyacheslav volodin topic of the movement of deputies. in moscow, too , everything is being decided; it was decided to replace the failed duma foreign cars with russian cars. what kind of cars are we? therefore, we will be demanding of the auto industry and there will be other cars. but if we don’t pay attention and

use cars, we’re not friends, it’s so strange, we’ll never create our own auto industry , it’s expected that officials will follow the example of the deputies. minister of health mikhail murashka has already switched from bmw to otechestvennaya aurus, and the ministry of industry and trade is the first of the federal departments. he promised to transfer employees to russian cars. a special unit was created for this purpose. what kind of cars will he decide to buy at the russian tinter? vladimir putin also spoke about all the cars for officials last week. yes, they may look somehow more modest than, uh, than mercedes and there or audio, which in the nineties began to be purchased in huge quantities. that is ok. i think we need to take an example in this sense from many of our partners, for example from partners in india. yes, that

means, uh, they mainly focus on production of the use of vehicles manufactured in india, regional authorities have already begun to block the purchase of foreign cars, in particular in mordovia they canceled the purchase of mercedes and toyota cars. the republic of artyom, through social networks, warned officials about personal responsibility for such purchases , the governor of sevastopol mikhail razvozhaev and completely promised to fire the officials who formalized the state purchase to purchase a french car. the main thing is that officials will serve as an example of the fact that it is worth using the domestic auto industry. this will serve an example for the people that it is quite possible to drive our cars, however, are the journalists of the publication. len really found one and a half hundred active applications for foreign cars on the government procurement website, in general, in 2023, purchases of foreign cars increased, while domestic cars decreased, both in the number of transactions and in the amount of money spent, this is stated in a study by an analytical company, the results which the basin publishes there is no clear answer to the question. where are

the children now? this is a huge foreign car fleet in the federation council was asked not to rush, not to wait a few years until it becomes unusable in this situation, of course, it is more efficient to drive imported cars until they reach a state where it will be impossible to maintain them and, of course, to buy domestic ones instead cars. it's me. it will be rational. like you, the latest initiative bothers me a little, the fact that you have to wait until it is no longer possible to service your car. this, in my opinion, is quite risky, but if a lot of money is spent for some foreign car, no one says that we need to throw it away and it means urgently to cross here just because if there is anything we go about, but we don’t buy further. that's what we're talking about, the normal approach is absolutely another mechanism. we also propose to sell them through auctions and use this money to buy them. uh, domestic cars. this will just speed things up at this moment. we begin to stir the water in a glass of water,

of course, a living machine that drives. it was purchased conditionally, there six months ago. why not get rid of it right away? here, of course, met. it’s just summer in the summer with you, so they have the same reason and there is a problem there, i remember. yes, they said that you didn’t come in a moskvich but in a st. petersburg car. yes, it was clearly not my car then. and eh. well, yes, what else is the view from the speaker. and if you are talking about foreign cars, you also need to service them. so wait, you somehow right away, but it’s manifest on you that i love your attention to the words to yours. let’s talk about uh, because. here are three of you, yes, from the state duma, we interpret correctly that from next year. here you will be when in the regions, travel only by car. maxim anatolyevich is correct. yes, we are being a little disingenuous, we just came up with a recommendation that the cars that are provided to us may not be ordered by them themselves, that is , an auction is held in the region, and

money is allocated from the state duma for the provision and servicing of state duma deputies; some company wins which does she have cars? we don’t understand talking about the fact that there will be all russian cars. i have a question. if we write this in the competition, but not a, will the fas protest? that we don’t do it ourselves yet. that is, we use the one who won the auction and provides us with the car. wait, what is oak council? on monday, he recommended regions to regions, which have already left. uh, letters. that it is necessary to hold auctions and conclude agreements for servicing deputies with those companies that will provide russian cars maxim anatolyevich from the sverdlovsk region, correctly, sverdlovsk region toyota camry yes, which is assembled here in st. petersburg, i again have a question: should this be considered a russian assembly, which, by the way, it ’s all written in our documents that and we have time. you also said that you have russian authority to stamp your foot and say that they will sit in this foreign one. please let me moskvich

stomp our real ones. i can use the car. i didn't receive it. yes, i can’t sit down again, that’s why i asked the question, when are we, uh, what is correct to consider correctly called a russian car? well, let's alexander andreichenko well, in general, it’s very simple , we have a vin code that accurately identifies the country manufacturer. this is what is riveted on moskvich, uh, maxim kodakov knows very well and what vin code is there is wrong, because there is a russian vin code, and there are no answers anywhere , because there is no answer to the question. what is a russian car? how to answer this question for yourself is fundamentally different. there are government procurement rules, where a certain share of localization must be in points, which are determined by the ministry of industry, we take preferential car loans, which are used by almost the entire population. there are also very clear the rules are only cars, serious localization,

therefore, if we are russian cars that people want to drive, we are ready. although i doubt it. eh, all the deputies and officials, if we are talking about such cars, then we can list all the modes right on the fingers of one hand. this is uaz, it's gas. this is a gazelle pair of a haval car which is assembled in the tula region and an aurus. more and more, if we, if we, at alexander’s suggestion , take as russian cars all cars that have a russian propeller, like your toyota camry, then the funnel expands there and moskvich there is a tora car there, electric currencies there. and let’s say the new ladas that began to be assembled at the former nissan plant, but this car is a large-unit assembly. it was about a sliver of soap. we don’t actually give this money to the treasury, nor to producers.

we have one more point in terms of quality, if we speak, they were somehow very different from the stupid questions they are probably asking now. yes, our assembly is a large-unit car, and the car is exactly the same as assembled, for example, in china and the most important thing is that if we count according to the second principle, then this means that tomorrow, well, not tomorrow is good, according to current times, in 8-9-10 months. we can organize large-scale assembly of any vehicle. anyone here. we take any chinese car. rahunians are the size of an aurus, we assemble it here from 20 parts. four wheels, four are certain. well, it’s clear, but the engine mount, gearbox, like in a cartoon, the whole body is lowered at once in a single monolith, and the russian wine is a russian car. okay let's alexander andreevich add. why are you taking any more initiatives now? let me return to our first question: in the regions they went to ours. i personally remembered about kot, because well, now this is the most understandable and simple way to determine whether russian cars are russian or

not, namely with this problem. we are now facing, because if you ask if this is a russian car or not, pointing to moskvich, someone will say that, of course, it is moskvich, someone will say. well, what kind of moskvich is this when it’s jac gs4, yes, if i don’t i’m wrong, but the model is absolutely a chinese car, which, in principle, no modifications have been made to all the cars that are produced by the moscow moskvich plant now, these are the ones we can determine very, very much, all this reminds us of the story with the refrigerator, and which matroskin took in whose refrigerator is the state that it gives rise to? there’s something here that’s elusive to me. well, unfortunately they are elusive. you are absolutely correct, because many of our enterprises are state-run state budgetary institutions and so on. they they don’t have a car on their balance sheet. well , actually, that's the maximum. transport services are paid by mileage. you come to them and they say, we don’t have a single car

at all, but first we drive, and what car will come? i don’t know, by the way, we need to figure it out separately, just, yes, because these tattered ten-year-old ford focus then came for me. i'm the boss here. well, they sent me this car, but this bentley arrived like this. and this is for the cook, he will go for groceries; there was no transport vehicle company. so yuri okevich. tell me, please, you see, there’s a whole bunch of them here, well, not a problem, but certain difficulties. somehow you and your colleagues on your committee will sort this out. this is all to understand not to do. yes, i understand that we are talking about what is russian production. what is not russian production? well really. uh, at the moment the full list has been named , talk about which cars to drive, which ones need to be supplied, and so, for example, in the far east, yakutia, trans-baikal territory, ulan-ude, there is always a car park there. bereziki, which are provided. and in

fact, there are other cars and uazs most likely not suitable, but i see the different ones are not exactly the same. i can't go everywhere compared to a uaz. this is a myth in terms of cross-country ability, of course, the uaz wins and of course, this is really a controversial issue. what is russian? well, in our understanding at the moment. uh, the first thing is what is being produced at the final stage in russia when we talked about what we want to come to? here now we are talking about to what degree of localization or to what degree of production. do we even want to do this? why because we want to give impetus to development, that we moved this thing. and that's already good. and the fact that you need to put on work. yes, of course, dear. and we still don’t know what we moved, that they were russian cars. and what no tomorrow we will be uh, and we can already see now, you can see around the city. well, at least, yes, here in moscow , the russian national guard on moskvich, somewhere they are already traveling on car transporters. this is russian. here we are

this way we can move it. no, the chinese bought it well, they assembled it better and sold it all. let's anton, the problem that is solved in this way thanks to this solution , there are several of them and in general, but active, including the transfer of first a large subassembly, then as localization. what is it for, first of all, so that hmm in russia there are at least some cars of different classes that could, uh, satisfy the needs of people accordingly. this is such a global task about some programs are maximum hopeless for the next one no, wait, it’s not hopeless, when you come, uh, to the stores you won’t have any car, in general you will say oh what were you there did you sleep in any shoes at all, that means this is a program minimum program , maximum in the near future, here are all these enterprises, which, accordingly, for now. from the assembly there from the glonass installation or some other things, this means increasing the level

of localization, because the hawalla itself, which you mentioned, there are generally grandiose plans for in fact, if you believe these papers, which, accordingly, thanks to the developed level of localization, you are completely wrong. i may never do this right away, but this is all a step-by-step story. and as practice shows, including in other industries, localization. it happened over time , which means that it concerns our domestic ours. e officials, that’s all. rest. this means that it is clear that now all this will be perceived by the broad brain, that even there is a moskvich car which seems to have a very low degree of localization of this large e assembly, which means this will also be considered russian, because this is our enterprise. people work there. taxes are paid, salaries are received. is it good? is it bad? we proceed from what we have, unfortunately for a number of parameters. we don’t have completely russian cars. of course, if i were in the subway. or if i were a governor, i would have already

gone to uaz two years ago and said, i need a limited batch of cars. here you have it, for example, a conventional uaz, please make it normal. paint it. put it here. normal turned out to be an excellent conclusion. there's no need for that before. i ’ll buy this batch from you, wait a minute. that means, but because no. how else could it be, uh, or it doesn’t work at all, but it’s been localized for 20 years. wait wait, why do you give me a car somehow hmm, no, i’m not trying to get through. i was told through your arguments. yes, maxim aleksandrovich said that there are not many completely russian cars, you named lada, among them , correctly, number one always comes to mind. well, as far as i remember, the name lada is in at some point, which i don’t remember , i attached myself. in general, to the lada. we had zhigulis, then they began to be called vaz boots and were slightly modified. i don’t understand

, i organized a competition for americans behind the wheel. slava magazine behind the wheel, but i want to choose the lada yeah , where did they come from in our country with a car called zhiguli, that was our idea, as far as i understand, it was a fiat and then there is no lada, export. well, wait, it turns out to be a story at some point. yes, they took someone else's car. yes, years have passed. and now you you say, this is purely our development. now we are talking little by little, and this no longer raises any questions for anyone. and the weak one was not on the sly, there is no need to deceive. after all, there were imports of machine tools, a huge entire ministry and or department that was engaged in purchasing equipment for absolutely not only automobile factories for a huge number of enterprises for kamaz for moskvich for lada and avtovaz when we built avtovaz we built we took out the soil.

we built walls, but all the equipment the lion's share of the defense was purchased abroad. absolutely right. how many years have passed on this project on this project? well, it took five years. but no, but in our case, one after another , suppliers upped and left. we didn’t have problems back in the stone age with complex products, we didn’t even understand them at all. yes, because you can no longer be heard. yes, we are advertising or we give the floor to nikolai rybakov so that he will completely smear it on everyone. so what? come on, you know how to somehow irritate absolutely everyone, because in my opinion. in general, this is absolutely not something to discuss do the right thing at the beginning, you reported on the outstanding achievement of the minister of health, that he switched to aurus , and so, during your discussion, i saw that aura costs 46.5 million rubles. well, this is not the limit. as far as i understand, if it’s cheaper,

and this is the average pension for 204 years. fie on you , this is absolutely the date of the nurse. yes, of course, i understand that everything had to be distributed to pensioners for 80, the average salary of a nurse for 89 years. we are not a question. or rather the answer. why are our officials, deputies , senators some exceptional people, who generally need official cars, nothing of their own, that is, no need at all, no need at all, no need at all, and your party leaders have never driven cars. i don’t go for the state and about others i showed the state doesn’t need to eat. help again only years with your habit never my friends. let's have this debate. i now have the answers, you are a live network. i gave up my company car when i was a deputy of the first class of the first day; it’s easier from the first day not from the first day. but you are even second

started meeting some some time giant. this was at the beginning of the two thousandth . first half of the 2000s. yes, i had a company car and a personal driver. personal widely. once upon a time there lived this wonderful, by the way, uh, man and a very good professional, before me he drove grigory alekseevich ivlinsky. the car was different. well, the driver was the same, but the most interesting one, that for a long time grigory alekseevich yavlinsky, and hmm valera well , the driver he drove vladimir aleksandrovich gusinsky, who also had another the car paid for the work in all these cases. vladimir gusinsky has already had two cars like this. here is an interesting collision. so let's nikolai igorevich , we take a break for now, so that everyone realizes that the leader of the faction, in general, why did he drive like that, like the leader of the faction with dvushinsky's money, yes, can there be such a thing as a company car? why are

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be transferred to a peaceful channel and especially spoke about the work of our peacekeepers at this difficult moment. we are working very actively with all parties involved in this conflict , doing everything to protect the civilian population in our main base there are already over 2,000 civilians, of which there are more than 1,000 children, but we are in very close contact, i repeat, we are in contact with all parties to the conflict and with the authorities in yerevan and i hope that we can achieve this. yes, escalations and translations of the solution to this problem. a peaceful course . also at the beginning of the meeting, the russian president thanked the chinese minister for the brilliant organization of the visit of the head of the chinese denping. if you remember, we showed you. this was in march of this year, according to the president.

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now return to our discussion and return. we settled on what is considered a domestic car. to what extent this car must be made here for it to be considered domestic, to what extent it should not. let us prepare a little material on this topic and continue the discussion. the concept of a domestic car and what it should be like is not precisely spelled out in the legislation, and therefore questions arise. for example, the moskvich car is a russian automobile industry, or so far, not very auto experts, having visited the assembly line of the new crossover, confirmed that moskvich 3 is chinese jacques at a factory in the capital. so far , only large-unit assembly is underway for the haval car; in this regard, it is becoming more and more large-scale. at the plant in tula, welding and painting and even engine production are carried out. we really need to purchase cars for state needs that were produced here in our country and consist of large quantities of domestic components, this is 100% true. it seems to me

that here we need and e requirements for the purchase of a car, you can introduce the appropriate conditions at the beginning. ministry of industry and trade several years ago i studied to what extent russian cars consist of russian parts, and also where they are painted, assembled , and so on, in first place, then lada granta turned out to be in first place with an indicator of slightly more than 50% ; as for the premium segment, the manufacturer aurus reported that 60% of these cars are russian, while in the aurus there are components from the middle kingdom to the developers and suppliers of the air suspension, for example , the chinese company kiss became and the german company porsche engineering helped design the engine although the technical specifications were ours, of course, when our manufacturers produced cars almost 100%, that means assembling cars from foreign spare parts. well, what’s our localization here? we’ll raise it, we’re not going to close

completely here on our knees to do something. there is another problem with domestic cars, a high one. cost experts. kommersant newspapers surveyed say the average cost of new russian cars has set a new record for the first time in history. it exceeded the 1 million ruble mark. same the simplest moskvich configuration will cost almost 2 million rubles. and the premium aurus costs 37.5 million. and this is only an suv sedan. almost 10 million more expensive. i look, that is, in fact. it seems to me that the price tags are very high, but domestic cars there cost 2 million, 3 million each. he wants to sell a camry, buy two grants, will this cover the money? i doubt. how much does a million grants cost, in my opinion, now vladislav andrey you went to moskvich of course you went. i understand there was an election campaign. this was beautiful, even on two muscovites, but here, in fact

, he immediately directly asked a rather logical question : the seat will not be enough for two at once , the cost. because you are a speaker, probably you are not entitled to a small moskvich , you need something bigger, and we already have at least 37,500 more for the budget , it’s a little expensive, and you look like there are several speakers in the state duma. we are already 100 million. we are jumping right in. will it be too expensive? or maybe, again, i'm thinking wrong. you can correct me, but i’ll tell you, i honestly don’t share the skepticism colleagues who talk about why we are doing all this. i absolutely agree that you need to start with something, for example , moskvich, on which the second moskvich on which and which i tested is an electric moskvich, in many countries by the thirtieth year it will be generally stated in the strategy that this is only an electric car. we can get it from somewhere, in principle, such technology. there is nowhere, for example in china. what is the difference between the assembly that unfriendly countries had and what china gives us?

this opportunity, take it and localize it to 100%. if your power allows you and most importantly. let's drink the order. for this purpose, it is i who transplant officials. e for a domestic car in order to increase this order. there can’t be a price, if you collect aurus per year, i don’t know, i’m afraid to lie to my colleagues, tell me, but there are 50 , probably 70 per year at the moment , about 1,000 of them all together. well, 1,000 each, which means somewhere around 100-150 per year, of course, that’s the price. compare it with a mercedes with a similar one three times cheaper, which is okay, it's why does it cost so much? well, relative to other foreign cars, the lada is much cheaper after all, and look, it’s cheaper, it’s still expensive now, unfortunately, it won’t cost you twice as much, because a clear example is understandable to everyone, even not an expert mercedes c class is produced in this way gigantic quantities

, tens of thousands, because the whole world rides it. this made it cheaper. he is ready for a very expensive car, which costs plus or minus a level. like the aurus, the aurus can be made cheaper, but it won’t cost 2 million. he it won’t cost 5 million. it won’t even cost 10 million. he will never stand on the class, wait, if we set ourselves the goal of developing the domestic automobile industry in order to provide cars to the violence of even such harmful types as nikolai igor fishermen, so that everyone can buy a car so that it is inexpensive. we are in the right direction right now, not on maxim anatolyevich street. we, uh, the message was to transfer officials and deputies to domestic cars so that we could feel it so that we somehow understood how to develop our automotive industry. we understand that it is in deep stagnation, that we cannot catch up with anyone

yet, and therefore we either now have to strain our brains to come up with something new or it is not visible, as we did with fiat, just buy some to determine the models that we need, which people will buy this technology and produce them for 10 years. well, what does localization have to do with up to 80%? let there be power. thanks to god, we don’t need to build anything new. we have empty capacity. here's a new one in 10 years ruler. and how to buy again and move along this path gradually. which way do you see? well, how would we buy, just like we bought fiat and then started developing our zhiguli, then i sometimes decide on the segment that we will develop; there’s nothing to be ashamed of, there’s no need to buy. uh, these are the models with the right to produce and sell them, and thus maxim anatolyevich political situations. we will be limited in choice, because we are the same from mercedes, probably, as we can’t buy an unfriendly car anymore

we will, so we have both, in principle, in terms of technology and already in terms of car production. he has probably already overtaken europe, why is this not allowed about money? anton come on, the people's car, what price should it have, we imagine, because when they say the cost of the cheapest car is a million. no, this is an average of a million. this is a million, there is a price of 50. for me it's a number. well , it doesn’t sound like a people’s car, everyone is already used to it, i don’t know, yes, because what is a people’s car? here we are somehow on one of the broadcasts, uh, we talked. the point is that a grand probably won’t suit you; it’s better to submit your needs for a car from andrei volochkov and your needs for a car. i have mine , someone else has theirs, someone needs a cheap granta , someone needs it. as a people's car, there is a bmw x5 and a people's car. and people, for example, apply this to a foreign car as well. let's not

talk about it now and give it up. here, uh, the old concept of people's people's as if these poor people are not in trouble, people availability different models. eh, different model range. in our country, relatively speaking, if lada makes a car of a certain class there, then it’s great, for example, the representative you need. well, i mean we need a representative com, as if to say, we don’t know how to do it yet. here, of course, you need to either purchase something, or, accordingly , bring it in, and that means doing localization, but i would also go to a friend on the other side. you say our cars are expensive. they generally grew everywhere all over the world, if that’s correct for a million grant bmw began back in covid times, when they flooded here is another problem for which, honestly, i have an answer why? but perhaps our parliamentarians also need to look for this answer. we have a chinese car, for example, or those that are assembled in china, for example, cost 890,000 rubles.

800-900.000. and we have two and a half 3 million, it turns out that what you are hinting at was in uzbekistan, talking to the driver of the car. this means business class, which means the electrics are all chinese, he bought it there 30 years ago. let's save time well passes for 3,200 buy, 10 executive class and completely. and what is there to understand, you need to understand the chain, well, there is a calculator, take it in your hands and buy it. let me answer you , we are wasting time. you buy a car for a million in china. how much does it cost to deliver a car from china here now? how much do you know? how much from vladivostok is cheaper than 200,000 you didn’t get a million to this price you have to add uh, customs further, if you if you officially transport as a large

supplier, it’s 15%. 15% to this you must add mds to enter, and i will now wait, wait, heard you have to add. i hear you. you must add the glonass era and you must add. and after that you have a car. do the math take a calculator machine, you're arguing with me, i'm not arguing with you. you propose to deputies that the company should be allowed not to pay taxes. no , i suggest looking at where these processes can be made cheaper, no comfort, please. i’m logical about the cost of customs, listen, in fact, you say that we will take this money out of people’s pockets, what are you proposing. do you propose to develop clean up the auto industry through the abolition of state duties, so that the chinese can have it even cheaper in the water. ingeniously, the spare parts that go through the property also

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, the force of all cars will cut the asphalt with software and armor. if we leave the last episode, uh, out of the spotlight, yes nikolai igorevich, that is, you want to say that in general all these initiatives, they are not trustworthy, because this is more pr looks like i'm feeling sick. it’s just that you really show one component, you don’t show the other components. which of these same citizens? well, let them be there ? yes yes, let's go to the state duma , we'll see, he thinks that he will keep it to 100 million. he said, yes, yes, but there is one drawback. we're terrible at

math, so we don't need much now, so it's good. in reality, you just need to give it up. well, the party chairman is sick of the apple and doesn’t believe in all these initiatives. he them. well, that’s the question, i believe it, i don’t believe it, it won’t, it won’t. are you feeling nauseous too or not? because of all these attempts to somehow attract attention to the fatherland, licks, i have a bad attitude. this is populism. do you think or what? or is it promotion? well, except for the last one, i don’t need to talk about it, i ’ll say it right away with mercedes. we took it that there is no problem in transferring everyone to domestic cars. over time , no problems at all. no. i think this is correct, also because excuse me, spare parts for everything here, uh, it’s just very difficult for western europeans. even just getting them for money, as it were, everything will be very expensive. even in this sense, it is logical. tell me, this will really somehow contribute to the development of the automobile industry. but in any

case, look at this, but it is obvious that this order itself is extended over time. it doesn't have much in common. produced machines yes on the one hand, but on the other hand we mean consumer trust in this is unconditional. but if people see that it’s like, uh, it means government officials ride on it, and it doesn’t break down. at the same time it’s normal. all this travels. listen. that's what i'm talking about, uh, mistrust. i know a lot, but now some company about the chinese auto industry has gone, that they are very short , very short. i just get asked like this all the time. there are a lot of chinese cars now. that's ninety-nine percent. the taxis said that they are happy with the cars they have, that there are no problems, that they bought them cheaper than they would have bought these cars. accordingly, if everything were so, let's take another short break and discuss the results. so let's say, you are a super super pre-trial detention center premiere, sunday at 22:20 on

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the bounds today 16:45 on ntv please name, in your opinion, the best way to give development to the russian automobile industry. which maxim aleksandrovich is definitely not with the help of deputies, but populism does not work, if deputies and high officials wanted, they would have switched to domestic cars long ago; developing the auto industry requires crazy people; unfortunately, with the pouring in, crazy subsidies are needed. it is simple and necessary to develop not only factories, as such they use components. what are our cars made from? problems with high chemistry. we have problems with metallurgy. we have problems with the production of spare parts, and so on , start to finish, and then maxim anatolyevich well, we need to understand in what way, in what way we will develop our automobile industry. and the fact is that the first step has been taken, and we are transferring officials to these cars. but this is probably what we should understand correctly. how our car industry is developing, but there’s nothing wrong with that, we’ll travel with domestic ones, and then everything else. what

maxim said all the car industries are, after all, probably about trust too, so that people trust more. it seems to me that in order for people to trust, you cannot fall below a certain level. i won’t name the brand, but i know that we had, for example, a budget passenger car without abs or airbags . it seems to me that about trust , if we are talking about security, these requirements must be ensured first of all. and somehow i still don’t have abs, you just don’t notice when it turns on. yes? okay, well, a girl comes into the car the salon employee, a girl, comes out to meet her and says, hello, i would like to buy a model car from you. no accountant, but thanks for the compliment. this was the meeting point, which cannot be changed 14:00. everyday life ntv all

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