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in the npp telegram channel, that’s all for today, thank you for your attention, today in our program: starting point: 33 years ago the unification of germany took place, why did this become a prologue for the current confrontation between russia and the west? gorbachev was a statesman who dared to do a lot together, but with reason. decades later, east germans still cannot forget the gdr. why mentally the people of germany could not become united. for us , the soviet union has always been good. and also deadly thinness. resets furiously again
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kilograms. who imposed the fashion for slimming injections and why it’s time to forget all the body positive attitudes. and i like the way i am now, why should i gain more. watch it now. hello, this is the meeting place at ntv, the place where everything becomes clear. i, andrey norkin, my colleague ivan trushkin. we are working live. let's start, according to tradition, with the news: last night, members of the armed forces of ukraine tried to be especially active in the territory of the kursk region, and a massive drone attack on this russian region was reported this morning governor roman storovoyd. and according to his data , the city of rylsk, bordering ukraine, was shelled with cluster munitions. as a result, one woman was injured. houses, outbuildings, and cars were damaged. local residents post footage.
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unexploded ammunition, which are scattered in different parts of this regional center, sappers are now actively working there. in addition, in addition to the shelling, drones attacked two power plants in the city of sudzha in the village of glushkovo. as a result , more than sixty settlements were left without electricity. local authorities are currently dealing with the consequences of this attack. well, the united states is feverishly looking for a way to smuggle new weapons into ukraine under conditions. when congress , at least for now, does not allocate money for this, cnn reports that such a method has been found, they decided to take weapons that were once confiscated from iran. what is it about? according to the united states central command, we are talking about a batch of one million rounds of ammunition. this is only a small part of the weapons that were confiscated from iran in december last year in the strait of armus. us authorities then said that they had intercepted a shipment of weapons for yemen.
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in the hands of the american military, then, as stated, all this was gathering dust somewhere in a us warehouse in the middle east, what to do with it until the last moment was unclear, the un demanded that it all be destroyed, but the united states, represented by the american ministry of justice, after several months of discussions , simply -they simply appropriated this cargo for themselves and now they want to essentially give it to kiev. the ministry of justice has taken control of confiscated weapons and ammunition and this allows the us use them at your own discretion. the united states has already transferred more than a million such ammunition to the ukrainians. we understand that this is just the beginning. there is symbolism in this because, as you know, iran is helping russia fight in ukraine by sending them drones and other equipment. well, joe biden said that he plans to give a big speech on the need for arms supplies to ukraine. the american president is nervous. while the battle rages in the us congress.
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around the speaker, the budget, and so on, the help is idle, and you have to come up with some plan b, which is now being talked about in the white house, what kind of plan b it is is unclear, biden is still foggy, we can support ukraine with the next tranche that we need, and there are other means by which we may be able to find finance on this, but i won’t go into details now, but the politician’s publication, the american publication , reports that all these american misunderstandings , with the help of ukraine and kiev officials , are throwing all kinds of deputies into absolute panic. here is a politician's publication, quoting one one of the rada deputies is ivanna klympush- tsintsadze. she calls it simply a disaster that the speaker of the lower house congress was dismissed. moreover, she says that the threat of a complete or at least significant cessation of the flow of money from washington is more real than ever. well, these are all emotions, so he will make a much more meaningful statement. secretary
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of the national security and defense council of ukraine alexey danilov, this is very interesting, he asked western partners not to listen to certain officials who travel, travel, in his words. in europe with a proposal to drop everything and start negotiations with moscow. that is , once again, the secretary of the national security and defense council says that there are some officials in ukraine who propose that the europeans begin negotiations with moscow. that is, we learn from his words that in ukraine, it turns out, there is a certain peace party. and where we have a group, we have a group, we call them striped swimsuits. three people who travel around europe to second and third level events and say that ukraine should... sits down at the negotiating table with russia, if they cross the line of what is permitted, if they pretend to represent ukraine, there is a big question here, if he is a citizen of ukraine, this does not mean that he represents our country.
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well, however, the attempts of some sensible, albeit small, part of ukrainian officials to enter into some kind of peace process are understandable, if you listen to how its nato partners talk about ukraine, we will now let you listen to the minister of defense of the netherlands, he speaks directly that ukraine is such a consumable material. let's listen. supporting ukraine is a very cheap way to ensure that russia and this regime cease to be a threat to allies. therefore, it is vital to continue our support. i applied the masculine gender to this lady, well, he’s a minister, but of course i’ll give, oh, okay, i got out of it, you just became a victim of all these modern trends. she has a last name, you can’t tell if it’s him or her, sorry. okay, okay. and we can talk about this in the second part of today’s program, there we will remember ivan sergeevich, his strange reservations, in the announcement of our conversation today it was mentioned that today’s confrontation between the west and us had a prologue, and this prologue, here we in the editorial office
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consider the unification of germany, these days just happen to be another anniversary, in principle, of course, we have lessons we always try to put off history for the second hour, germany - this is an event that, of course, influenced not only germany itself, our country , not only europe, in general the whole world, probably, yes, indeed there is, a large share of the truth, if you call it this event a paralogue to what is happening today, why, well, it’s no secret that mikhail sergeevich gorbachev played a key role in this, in russia today, this point of view prevails, the opinion that gorbachev then. year, i acted wrongly, or so, i acted, in general, of necessity correctly, but still i had to act a little differently later, let’s first remember what happened 33 years ago. negotiations on the possibility of uniting the federal republic of germany and the gdr after world war ii were unsuccessfully conducted at
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for 40 years. chancellor helmut kohl's desire to create one german state and allies in the anti-hitler coalition was initially supported only by the united states. france, britain and the soviet union. the next step was negotiations between kohl and gorbachev in 1990. they lasted 52 hours and ended with the triumph of the german chancellor. however, recalling these events, kohl said that the soviet leader essentially had no choice. the matter was decided by the lack of money from the soviet union to help communist countries and the fall of the soviet regime into financial hole. as a result, gorbachev agreed to the entry of a united germany into nato and
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the deployment of bundeswehr forces on the territory of the former gdr. the new country also received full state sovereignty. in turn, germany pledged not to station nato troops on its territory, on lands that kohl would become the first western leader to visit mikhail gorbachev’s summer residence in the caucasus. the negotiations took place in a friendly atmosphere. gorbachev agreed that germany is a free country and will independently make political decisions, including joining nato. moscow, in turn , obliged. in august 1994, our soldiers , at least long-term officers,
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believed that the soviet union had betrayed us, and gorbachev personally, gorbachev betrayed the gdr, abandoned the gdr to the mercy of fate. refused to leave their military installations in germany and hand them over to german authorities. 2 years ago, the americans increased their force in germany, although a year earlier the then us president donald trump... promised to withdraw a third of the american soldiers stationed in germany. according to vladimir putin, these the troops are occupying. after all, after world war ii, germany was, as you know, divided into four sectors: american, english, french and soviet. so, the soviet union formalized the termination of this occupation status, but the united states did not. and strictly speaking, the form.
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there are american occupation troops on the territory of the federal republic, and in fact it is, there are a lot of them there , alexey sergegevich, did gorbachev have a choice in the soviet union, if there was no alternative, then what was possible somehow to tighten up the unification of germany in the process, in our receiving some benefits or guarantees , well, mr. kohls, of course, mr. kohls is absolutely right, the unification of the german people was inevitable, we understand that in the last years of the existence of the two divided germanys, firstly, they came closer kohl and honecker that honecker said when moscow demanded that he stop this excessive rapprochement with western germany, he said, thank you, dear comrades, good luck to you with perestroika, but somehow we are here ourselves let’s find a way out, what the representative of germany said, yes, the gdr felt deceived, and there were plenty of parasites who wanted to sit on our necks. of course, everyone wanted the russians again, we’ll talk about the german dorboeaters a little later, here felix
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will probably add something or, what a stupid laugh, i don’t consider felix a parasite, but he might know about them, you tell me, tell me, we had a choice, we had no choice, mikhail sergeevich himself said who i gave germany to, the germans, they answered, there was no choice, which means it was inevitable, a process this one, i just kind of know a little too, i just... served in the army, at the time when they began to withdraw our troops from germany, he was just serving there, did we do everything right, really in this process, yes we agreed, but no, of course we did it wrong, i like to conduct such a thought experiment, imagine that gorbachev called reagan, in the year eighty-seven he said this, mr. reagan, imagine, we will now withdraw troops from germany, we mean let's dissolve the warsaw pact organization, what do you give us for this? give me, i think reagan would be ready to give half of the kingdom in this... give it away, it should have been done earlier, not when the soviet union suffered an economic collapse; the stores ran out of
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food, but when it was still possible to exchange it for something, that is our position was so weak that it was simply inappropriate for us to put forward any demands of our own, but how do we imagine the existence of the gdr without the ussr? listen , i don’t know, but why is there, well , let’s talk about natomas separately, this story goes straight ahead, but why, let’s say, i don’t know, in general who who? who pulled mikhail sergegevich by the tongue with promises to destroy the warsaw pact, everything else you like about the rapprochement from the position of kohl and honoker, taking into account where honoker ended up after this rapprochement, it doesn’t matter, it’s not the leadership of the gdr, it’s important, it’s fundamental, because when germany celebrates the day of unification, let's call this holiday correctly, this is the day of absorption, hostile absorption by one side of the other, which is why the east germans actually say that, generally speaking. maybe something wanted, but it was not their will, in fact no one asked them, what about the absence, when, when someone asked
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the east germans, wait, don’t, i didn’t interrupt you and you, too, please don’t interrupt, don’t behave like gorbachev in a conversation with khonok, so look, excuse me for pragmatism for cynicism, but when you have half a million bayonets on some territory, you dictate conditions, you can dictate conditions even to the one who says that you have there is no money, he says, well , now half a million bayonets will solve this issue themselves, how this is done, if they are now naked. the position of france and great britain, who did not want any unification at all, it was possible to play on this ad infinitum, we were unlucky that the country’s leadership was, let’s call our things, a narcissistic idiot, a narcissistic idiot there is no other way, everything that was done , including an oral promise, this is natural, it’s just that in germany they still pray to the wrong god, because this issue would not have been discussed at all if not for joseph stalin. who was the only one standing
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the question of the existence of a german state in a neutral status, it was not stalin who created the gdr, it was first the federal republic of germany that created the western zone, and stalin insisted on the existence of a neutral state, pray, it’s the same as gentlemen germans, you understand, otherwise this issue would not have existed at all, but the fact that we found ourselves in a situation because we brought into leadership such a person who did not go further than the combine, well, this is our problem, regarding the fact that we had no choice, felixov, maybe we’ll try, i’ve been reading the book for a couple of years back, and she's western she describes the events as a wall, and so on and so forth , there an absolute feeling is created, it is clear that it is beautifully written there with the words of the participants, the breakers there, who filmed all this breaking, that the people... on the eastern side did not tolerate, was not ready, the westerners might still have something to do, but in the east people are so tired that indeed the soviet union, even if it somehow began to bite its teeth, it would cause absolute rejection of the germans in the east, how true is this ? well i think that this is true from one point, except for
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small regions, everyone could watch western television, where they showed you colorful advertisements. this is an eagle about the west, gummy bears, all sorts of such, well, simple goods, that is, everyone was so ready to exchange one thing for another, despite the fact that my sister, well, relatively speaking, ran away, on time, she told me once every every year he sends stockings, coffee , some parcels, it is clear that everything there was
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gold and all the promises, in fact, why kohl said that i promise you, blooming... but nevertheless, if you were gorbachev, then how would you try to bargain for something more than we received, on the issue of the unification of germany, if i were gorbachev, then i would shoot myself, this is good, this is a beautiful phrase, but it’s still more hopeless than, well, because such a person simply cannot rule the country, i absolutely agree, but if there were an adequate person in power then, he would really
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try to bargain for the maximum, yes, if we want to end the cold war, if we want. ..ready to unite germany, we must ensure that the soviet union, albeit weak, but still militarily huge and powerful, has a worthy place in the new post-german, post-bipolar security structure of europe, namely, the dissolution of nato and the warsaw department at the same time, the creation of some kind of unified collective security system in europe, which includes both the soviet union and the united states , in general, gradual, gradual democratization, liberalization of the soviet union, approximately plus or minus the way it was done in china, that’s how it was possible to do, instead, gorbachev really, at first brought the situation to the point of absurdity, at first he was ready to give up everything, no matter whether in negotiations with kohl or in negotiations with reagan, then, when our new western partners were convinced of the absolutely rag character of the soviet leadership, that we
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could we could also bargain for what we could insist on two or three times. germany, the united states would say we’re leaving, wait a second, the main goal of nato formally is to contain the soviet union and the warsaw pact organization if we unite germany, we are disbanding the department of internal affairs, why do we need nato? there, the british were against it at that moment, they were against the british , the americans, because for them nato was a little different, europe, post-bipo, but we could insist, you have a castle in the air, it turns out, well, i don’t know, the americans would not be for no matter what they dissolve, let us talk a little about this, fans , i don’t know about castles in the air, but one thing gorbachev bites, this is already absolutely known, from completely declassified documents, it was
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promised that nato would not expand by the east will not approach the borders of the soviet union, it was said. several people who admit all this, in fact, there are documents on this subject, but now the nato officials, they prefer to talk about all this somehow, well, there was no such thing, no, i don’t know, there is no document, that means it didn’t exist, give us the material let's see, last year the german magazine spiel published declassified documents found by american experts at boston university, they describe a meeting of representatives of the us state secret service, with colleagues from britain, france and germany, which took place in march ninety-one. and if you believe the archival records, then moscow’s western partners did not intend to invite eastern european countries to nato, and us representative raymond zaitz even promised that washington would not benefit. europe. during the 2.4 negotiations involving the gdr, france, the ussr, great britain and the usa, we
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made it clear that we would not expand nato beyond the elbe. therefore, we cannot offer poland and other countries membership in nato. the authenticity of the documents has been confirmed by experts, and as spiegen writes, gerahroburg’s position was agreed upon with helmut koll. the security of central and eastern europe has been agreed upon. support without nato through bilateral agreements and work within the osce, verbal promises made to moscow and earlier archival records confirm. we agreed that nato territory will not expand to the east, by the way, this applies not only to the gdr, which we do not want to just capture, there will be no expansion in principle. however, nato soon decided, given to moscow the word can easily be taken away, already in the ninety -fourth year it was decided to accept the former members of the warsaw pact organization into the alliance, and already... in the ninety-seventh year, at the beginning of consultations on accession , hungary, poland and the czech republic were invited. just 2 years later , the countries became full members of nato. this
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period could decide whether the states of the former soviet bloc will be woven into the fabric of transatlantic prosperity and security, or simply remain isolated? faced with the same frightening changes that have engulfed many others european countries. that's it. does not stop, in 2004 bulgaria, latvia, lithuania, estonia, romania, slovakia and slovenia joined the military bloc , a few years later albania and croatia also joined nato, and a little later, montenegro and north macedonia. today, even the titan of american politics, henry kissinger , says: the soviet union was deceived, but there is nothing to be ashamed of, is it true that secretary of state baker promised gorbachev not to expand. i know this is true, but it has never been put in writing
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form, so we are right in asserting that there was no formal obligation, but it was part of the obligations of secretary of state baker, alexey nikolaevich, not acting as gorbachev ’s lawyer, but still, let’s say, is seeking some kind of a document that everyone signs in a solemn atmosphere, stating that nato will not go to the east, we are wasting money for this, after 2 years the ussr is gone, gorbachev is gone, they would have just the same signed agreements, they would have spat on them, trampled on them , that's it, therefore, to the extent that gorbachev should be blamed for this at all, again, well, before i talk about gorbachev’s personal guilt, in fact, i am not going to not be either his lawyer or his prosecutor, although i would definitely make a bad lawyer for a lawyer, i want to say two things, here was a quote from kohl, regarding the fact that gorbachev had no options, in fact, in the memoirs
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of genscher and the memories of the same kohl, but others said that this was not so unconditional, it was not a hopeless situation for us, it was goodwill soviet leadership. genscher writes that if gorbachev had not said yes, there would have been no chance of the unification of germany ; they could not force the soviet union to do this, not to mention the withdrawal of the army and how things were going on there... continuing , what georgi said, i can say that yes, nato would not have been dissolved, so i am sure that this would not have happened, but not the expansion of nato and the neutral status of a united germany could have been fixed in reinforced concrete and this paper in ninety-four, much less more difficult, especially if it is ratified by the un and somewhere else, but france and england were afraid of neutral germany because ...
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army no more than 370,000 and so on and so forth and so on, in fact, neutral germany is that invisible or visible border between the conditional nato and everything else that nato could not pass for some period of time, yes, perhaps they would have these attempts, but they would not have been as easy as they are now, and this is me in this, although of course, i, as a person... with a historical let's formulate, i understand that history cannot have a subjunctive mood, but this is my personal opinion that if nato is in that form, we would not now have the problems with nato that we have now, if we had not surrendered germany then, that is there would be a little bit of a conflict, a light one, but it would be more complex, it would be expanded by nato, it would be longer, every time, well, we have every time, when the badania in the security council and syria there, one will veto, another will veto, complex problems are not solved, yes, in person push through. americans love it, especially lately, but it didn’t start in 1991 or 1990 , it didn’t take 30 years for it to happen, 30 years would have been temporary, we wouldn’t
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have received huge benefits, but we wouldn’t have made it so easy for them now it’s just that we’ve been looking at how our western partners behave for 30 years, but would some piece of paper, or two extra pieces of paper, stop them from this expansion, alexander, well, in fact, we still need to remember that the initiatives to join nato was coming not from washington, paris, london, they came from the former membership agreement, which means it was possible... probably to delay this, but in principle i don’t understand why nato expansion is perceived so critically, as if it were a matter of life and death, this it was possible not to understand until last year, until february 24, now it seems to me that it is understandable, even obvious, if in 2008 ukraine, at its request, had been admitted to nato, then nothing of what
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happened in 14. none of this would have happened, and kuban would not exist, and the black sea fleet would not exist, and many things would not exist, that is, there it was possible to negotiate with the black sea fleet and so on, but none of this would happen now, moreover, it means that they are talking about gorbachev, gorbachev relied on what is now called, in an unpopular word, european integration, spoiled ukraine, which means this. concept, accordingly, it was necessary to contribute something and show one’s readiness for this integration, it was necessary to overcome the reputation of a source of evil that the soviet union had, in fact , gorbachev did this, so it was necessary to spread out, lie down, say, the young ladies lay down and ask, as they said, if, if you look from the point of view of existential confrontation,
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russia or the remnants of the soviet union, then of course you will flatten yourself. and if you look from the point of view of normal development, political and economic, then this is an absolutely reasonable and absolutely normal check. the modern european union is developing normally, even economically, don’t you think that there are something completely abnormal there already? the mechanisms are working, now it’s simple, well, you know this figure of 186 billion euros, who are unfortunate there small european union countries will have to pay for the happiness of ukraine, this is all from my point of view absolutely monstrous and the ukrainian issue has turned into a complete nightmare, that is , muscovites were spoiled by the housing issue, and for europeans, but europe was spoiled by the ukrainian issue, of course, but we must not forget
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the reasons for the origins of all this, russia was accepted into all international organizations , the seven became the eight, and in general until the twelfth year, everything developed more or less positively, as for the gderovites, i may not agree with felix, so maybe they they live not as well as they would like, but it is quite obvious that life is better under capitalism than under socialism. save this thought for our next part, when we talk about, yes, you see, look, gorbachev actually made a rather cunning maneuver, imagine if he tried to keep germany by force, it still wouldn’t have worked, they would have united and would have been the enemy in russia, germany, for 30 years , the year really led, andrei nikolaevich pointed out to you the figure that we recalled, 5,000 military personnel, good, but germany is up to
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20. i read these american scientific journals for many years, they always infuriated me that germany acts as a pro-russian force in the european union, it sat on our resources, it became, yes, the nord stream, we will build and even if there is something with ukraine, well, we are not ready to give it up, germany was our channel for gorbachev, he returned germany to us, the germans said , he was a national hero and therefore loved russia, all this, we would have returned germany to them anyway, just for different money for different money on other terms, not on paper, of course, paperwork is absolutely not needed, because
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it’s a piece of paper that would be signed. it was torn apart, and under an absolutely plausible pretext, this is the sovereign will of the local people, the local aborigines want to join nato, these are their rights, we cannot refuse any paperwork, we absolutely cannot refuse. once again, once again i will return to the point where for some reason everyone forgets what they are starting with, what conditions initially the soviet leadership of the stalin era put forward regarding germany, the unification of it in a neutral status was not created, that is, neutral a state following the example of austria, not division, as churchill wanted, on a territory that will not be formed at all, not dispossession of it completely, but the creation of a neutral state, who opposed this, who began to create these proto-states in the western zone of occupation, or what? who then was the federal republic of germany, precisely the federal republic of germany, with the introduction there again of the same wehrmacht military, who accepted it into nato? remind me that, by the way, regarding the question of how we were all friends, let me remind you that the soviet leadership came out with a proposal to join
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to nato in 1953, and as was answered, you were openly told that i’m sorry, but this organization exists against you, let me remind you who else proposed that the russian federation join nato, vladimir putin and that he. i heard from this organization, which is not against us, really wants to be friends with us, excuse us again, they sent me , so i say again, the problem is not that we opposed the unification of germany, we opposed it for a normal unification, on equal terms conditions, not what happened when, firstly, excuse me, the interests of the soviet union were screwed up, and secondly , the interests of the east germans, i still don’t see a way, i still don’t see a way to do something differently, here’s an explanation, the operation is only for 500,000 bayonets , firstly, not bloody, firstly , you will excuse me, but the entire foreign policy of gorbachev’s eastern europe, which was carried out, the refusal to support people loyal to us and a huge number of people who were in solidarity with the soviet union, it was a mistake, there not
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it was necessary to immediately suppress someone, but when you do something like this, leave, do not support any forces, you will get ukraine, you will get ukraine, where there is also a huge number of pro-russian forces, but what happened is what happened, why? because at some point we distanced ourselves and did not... support pro-russian parties, it was exactly the same in eastern europe, you want to say that, for example, in the gdr everyone directly completely denied the soviet union, nothing of the kind, they pursued a completely absurd policy, but i say again, once again, here i could even the method of blackmail was used, sorry, i have 500 million hungry people, armed , who, sorry, also have family members, you want me to take them out of the open field, sorry, that won’t work, instead he took them out of the open field, then oh what did alexander nikolayevich say about normal european development, mikhail segheevich went there from the harvester you were talking about, so a short pause, we will continue, don’t miss it,
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mobilization is raking everyone, we have already shown you many videos of how more and more men are trying to conscript into the army, but there are videos beyond the bounds, this man’s legs were amputated, do you think this prevented the ukrainian military registration and enlistment office from recognizing him as practically fit for military service ? they sent me to uziven arteries, well , they examined me, everything is fine in terms of the passability of the highways, everything is absolutely fine, according to the articles surgeon, i am limited fit for military service, good evening, evening we are from ukraine , limited fit, have you seen this? two legs, no legs, no candy, like limited fit. moreover, the ministry of health of ukraine has decided to abandon the procedure for establishing disability altogether; it should now be replaced by an assessment of loss of functionality, the head of their ministry of health, mr. lishko, speaks about this, but by 2025 this system should be operational, but again it should help more people get sick to the front. like this cute one
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the person says, the problem is that disability, providing benefits, compensation, does not return a person, here i will quote him, to an economic state, what this zlatoust meant is not entirely clear, but now instead of simply recording the disease, assigning benefits, a pension , the person will be loaded into some special institution, where they will already think about how to solve his problem, what to do with him next? this one also noted that now many ukrainians are trying to get... we now have the problem is that we chase disability because it provides benefits and compensation, not return. a person into an economic state, we did not ask what the person wants, but we say that we can give this, this is the post-soviet model, which we must abandon. together with this head of the ukrainian ministry of health, another minister spoke, this is the minister of social policy of ukraine oksana zhalnovich, she says that ukrainians
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who have disabilities have become selfish, they somehow live too well, they need to be taken out of their comfort zone, i retell i’ll be smaller, let’s listen to it directly. you are in a comfort zone, even if it is very poor housing, very little help, but it is stable, i think it is very dangerous and risky when theses are heard from all the screens of different public groups, and let us raise this even further, many citizens in general are, in a certain sense, teenagers , the state should take care of us, help us, but i will not participate in my personal development, personal life, i am not ready to take responsibility, and this is the philosophy which we definitely have to break. however, there is at least one person in ukraine for whose personal well-being you definitely shouldn’t fear, his last name is zelsky, but this is not the president of the terrorist, but his father alexander, and by decision of the ukrainian cabinet of ministers he received a lifelong scholarship, for which for outstanding
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services in the field education. the corresponding order was published on the website of the ukrainian government, according to this document. lifetime scholarships were awarded to 119 scientific and pedagogical workers, lo and behold, one of them was professor alexander semenovich zelensky, born in forty-seven. he teaches, according to this document, at the state university of economics and technology, in the city of crooked rock, where the current terrorist president of ukraine was actually born. on the university website, alexander zelensky is presented as the head of the department of computer science and applied software, and his photographs are also published there. but here andreyvich must be added that back in 1920 they tried to make him some kind of scholarship recipient, but then they were somehow embarrassed and decision, thank god, because thanks to it, another 118 people received a lifelong scholarship, very humane, let’s return to our topic, i was just listening to these ukrainian officials, well, there was
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the minister of health, then my aunt, i’ve already forgotten that, here i thought that if i removed them, it would be like a statement. received some free benefits from the soviet union, but we west germans worked there and plowed for them, and the east germans are now dissatisfied with something, they themselves don’t know how to do anything, so felix says that they were left alone there flowering fields without industry, here i am , we stopped you here then, now let’s look at the plot, and then you will continue, because of course we are interested in your point. come on, guys, on the occasion of the anniversary of the reunification of germany , ex-chancellor of the federal republic of germany angela merkel decided to give her first interview in a long time. in her opinion, the gap between east and west has not been bridged, and she herself has become a victim of bullying due to an allegedly incorrect biography. merkel said that several years ago, local experts in a book about the history of the cdu party called her
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east german past by balastom. the chancellor herself, who has repeatedly called for abandoning the derogatory attitude towards east germans, still... holds a grudge against journalists, i couldn’t believe my eyes, and then i read it again, i felt devastated, it all really hooked me , of course, this is my biography, my childhood in the gdr, this cannot be separated from the person. the germans are confident that the gap between the two germanys has not been bridged after decades. according to the zdf tv channel, half of east germans still feel themselves... second-class citizens in one large country, and the number of such people is only growing from year to year, but the authorities assure that there is no split. in fact, there is no longer an east as such in germany, there is a difference between life in cities and in rural areas, between progressive, booming regions and depressed ones,
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but this applies to the entire country, and not just the territory of the former gdr. political preferences in the two former germanys also differ. in the east there are traditionally more supporters of the right, so the voices of the east germans helped the alternative for germany party enter the bundestag in 2017, and this summer the adf won local elections for the first time in the eastern state of thuringia. here in the west the position of the greens is strong. at the same time , it is not easy for a person from the eastern lands to reach the top political leadership. there is a certain gap between the west and the east. we cannot discount the fact that we have. there are significantly more people from the west german states in the government than from the east. european tolerance is also not inherent in everyone in germany, especially in the issue of refugees, according to. believes that migrants are a burden for the state, that germany has already accepted more than
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enough of them, but in the west there are significantly fewer dissatisfied people. this is massive, uncontrolled, illegal migration into our social system, but we will not allow this to happen to our society. in addition, east germans sympathize more with russia , for us the soviet union was always good, we developed a love for the ussr, and this love is still alive, but in relation to a country that is a follower of russia, russia is for us before is still symbolically a guarantor of security and peace. that is, from the point of view of the western germans, the gder germans are such parasites who were given the opportunity to live under capitalism, and instead of joys, they
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love russia for something, now they are happy to resort to simplified schemes, if you look at this gentleman from the bundestag, to unfortunately, i don’t know him, yes, who said that there is no longer a difference between the east, but only between the village and the city, but if you turn off the government for eastern germany , look at his facial expressions and you can see that he is lying, bites his lips and so on, but his facial expressions do not stick together at all, if he already said such words, he should have pronounced it heroically with delight, but he constantly hides his face, bites his lips, i think that i think that he is lying openly, yes, broglie is running around, she destroyed the twelfth largest industry in the world, yes, this is... the industry of the gdr, all these factories, the dairy factory was sold to another dairy factory, which quickly closed it, it began to produce all its milk, kefir, yogurt,
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from the main dairy factory, now there is nowhere go to work, it is clear that the citizens of the gdr, who did not have the opportunity to participate in capitalism for 40 years, they were naked, yes, to them, you just told us all, or rather, about gummy bears, which. that's it, you've already had enough, they weren't allowed to privatize apartments, yes, in the west people could chew up capital, lose capital, yes, that is, but in russia, at least private property exists, for 80% or 86% of people, in western germany 26%, yes, have real estate, and... even less, it is clear that these are people, who are on a social drip, it’s so understandable, that means the discontent is understandable, alexey nikolaich, can we now
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cynically ask , somehow play on this discontent, i don’t know, maybe, yes, now, now, these people there, now, maybe they somehow sympathize with us more , it’s not for nothing that we gave you these social surveys, they treat russia and vladimir putin personally much better than in the west, in the west i mean germany, in fact, andrei vladimich’s surprise is absolute, in general the answer to this question. no, look, i would divide it like this, is it possible to play on these sentiments, yes, can we play in our condition , unfortunately, no, here we are, we have no influence on the east germans, their love for russia is as conditional as the sers’ love for russia, for example, it does not affect our foreign policy in any way, we cannot monetize it, i would not use this particular word, but unfortunately no, if you allow me, i would add what felix said, first of all, i fully support what he says to the impression germans, about these
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the most humiberchen, well, these gummy bears, we experienced the same thing in the ninety-first year, yes, we, too, in general , surrendered our own country for these very gummy bears and also to applause, if we remember the footage when the guys, at the same time, this does not mean that the whole country, with a single impulse and a single right, wanted the ussr to collapse, but nevertheless no one, or almost no one stood up for it... and when the germans tore down the berlin wall, this was also a fun holiday for them , they were really having fun, but it was mostly young people, this is the driving force that is ready to destroy and believes in a bright future, older people, by the way, the man behind the wheel, who was, well, it’s clear that this is not a young guy, then he was no longer a young guy, older people understood that this is not so simple, in fact, these processes are of the same order, in this sense i would really like to draw attention, here plato, in a conversation with a wonderful writer from sevastopol, said, then gorbach’s surrender in germany, the events related the fall of the berlin wall, began to lead to
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the collapse of the ussr, and ultimately this further resulted in yeltsin’s speech. in congress, god bless america, we ourselves gave it all up and unfortunately we ourselves, for some reason, were sure that tomorrow would be better, now is enough, well , that’s normal, for a person to believe that tomorrow will be better, i don’t i know, we still have time for another one or we’ll put an end to it , in short, well, very briefly, we can really use the mood of the east germans now, why yes the east germans, since they lived in the soviet union, they know what russia is really like. then big geopolitics arises, this is what this man was telling from the screen, we, he says , germany needs russia for our security, russia, symbolically, and not only symbolically, russia's reliance on russia is a guarantor of independence, a guarantor of security, a guarantor of after all, the economic power,
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economic, political, geopolitical power of germany, including in europe. turns into political capital, i don't understand, it turns into political capital in the event that for either, well, let’s put it this way, let’s say, after the end of the war, it will be much easier for us to seek a common language with the germans on the basis of pragmatism, with those who still view russia through a pragmatic prism, and if they view us through pragmatism, they are obliged to cooperate with us very much, this is of course also good, but as i understand it, gummy bears cause a lot of harm , in a political sense, i think now we will continue this topic, because now we will talk about health, physical, about how to eat properly there, yes, but gummy bears are evil, away from gummy bears, we will never advertise them, now there is a pause and we will continue, 3 days have passed since the murder of businessman zoykov, and the search is asleep, now
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this is a meeting place on ntv, a place where everything becomes clear, now we will talk about beauty, that ’s why some of our guests are late, there are some difficulties with applications by taxi, i will then use it to remind you of a wonderful event that awaits some of you next weekend, it will come to the nizhny novgorod region and we will meet on october 14 at the palace of culture gas directly in nizhny, the next day 15 in the city of dzerzhinsk at the dcc khimikov 22 october, despite all the stupid rumors that i talked about, kalining palace of culture of railwaymen 29 troitsky cultural center in st. petersburg, as for november. we have such a plan, my friends, that means november 4 sochi, grand hotel zhemchuzhina, november moscow concert hall vegas city hall 12 moscow region elektrosal, and then we have 19 velikiye luki, 25 balako, twenty-sixth saratov, in principle, i can continue further the guests are so late 24, will again
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now say that how can i remember so much information, so let’s now give the floor to ivan so that he can also show off his knowledge, you also have a block there that doesn’t seem to fit this, it does fit, it’s about mental health, i would say so, let’s start, let’s, let's start with rishi sunak, the british prime minister, he, as they said in my yard as a child, decided to pee against the wind, spoke at the conservative party conference and there he would talk about his railways, salaries, pensions, well, that's the usual political agenda, at that moment he suddenly felt the urge to talk about his attitude towards the lgbt agenda about how many genders there are, a man is a man and a woman... parents should know that their children learn about sex at school, patients should know when they say in hospitals about men
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and when they mean real women, people cannot choose their gender, they cannot, but the american journalist tucker carlson just recently published an interview with political expert chris moritz, who specializes in transgender issues and everything related to this . and this mr. maurice, to smithereens , spread all sorts of tales about what it means that nature wins, encourages a person to change sex, and so on. he claims it's just money and business. total sales value of gender reassignment operations and pharmaceuticals in 2018 amounted to almost $3 billion. by 2022 , this figure has exceeded 4 billion. and by 2030, as it shows. our analysis will increase to $7.5 billion, more than the entire health budgets of some african countries. in the united states, there are more than half a million adult transgender people, or
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i would say transgender people over 13 years of age, as of 2022, this number has doubled in 10 years, the vatican is slowly starting to pour grist into this mill, the western press reports, that the catholic church has decided to take up same-sex marriage, to take up the matter in the sense of not condemning, but quite the opposite, now we will quote this publication to you: yesterday a three-week meeting of the holy synod began in the vatican, with representatives of the catholic church closed until the end of october. plan to discuss all the pressing issues, the church’s relationship with lgbt people, the place of women in the church hierarchy, the fight against pedophilia, abortion, so, as they say in the vatican, this is only the first step towards reforming the church, which is planned to begin carried out by pope francis, from now on it will all be set up to involve everyone possible in the church. bishops are afraid to talk about what is happening. i ask you to comply. this function because
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the priority of the church is to listen, and this is very important. i thank you that all together, we try to keep up with the times. pope francis himself has already outlined his position, just recently the vatican published a letter from the pope, here it is, actually to his five cardinals, where he says in what cases the church can bless same-sex unions. the pope talks about blessings. homosexual couples who need god's approval to continue their spiritual life, however, the pope makes it clear that a union of people of the same sex cannot be equated with marriage, so we’ll finish with spiritual health on this topic, but in fact we will continue further, well, we’re not talking about these people , about moving with the times, yes, as the respected pope francis said, that is, about certain trends that... may at
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some point change completely reasons that are incomprehensible at first glance, of course you know this kind of word-boosting, we periodically returned to this topic , here we have a lady depicted here, a typical representative of this body positivity, that is, this is a movement that fits absolutely into the modern such a liberal, tolerant agenda that you should accept everyone else, too, yourself as such, someone is fat, in no case should you somehow oppress overweight people, all this seems to have been accepted all over the world, in last month we noticed that there is a danish pharmaceutical company called , they, among other things, produce a drug for diabetics, it has a side effect, one of the side effects, the sense of appetite is dulled and the person begins to lose weight, in general, about this
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i found out, it started - there was just some kind of hysteria around the products of this company, everyone started buying this drug, and it didn’t matter that it might not be recommended for people who don’t have diabetes, that’s where various hollywood stars got involved, in general, this company began to swell by leaps and bounds, getting rich, everyone began to take this drug in order to lose weight, so we want to ask our guests a question today, what is this, that is, has this trend changed again? and now these ladies, everything connected with them, will go somewhere to the periphery of public attention, we will again be told that we need to be thin and slender, this is where ivan sergeevich has something to think about, because as you know, when i bring some edible gifts from concerts, the editors thank me for it he scolds because he says that ivan sergeevich doesn’t need it, i’ll tell you a secret, andrei vladimirovich, i open most of the gifts that are delicious inside the editorial office, we try it together when they scold you. you go prove it, we haven’t
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seen any evidence of this, shoot a video next time in the editorial office, but for now we ’ll watch our story. in the spring, the sports brand nike released an advertisement featuring plus-size model anna o-bryan, who weighs one and a half centners. all hell broke loose in the comments to the video. commentators criticized the company for instilling bad habits and standards, and the video itself was considered propaganda of an unhealthy lifestyle. the brand's advertising received no less criticism. h&m, which, along with traditional fit models, featured ladies with curvaceous and not at all athletic figures. the company calvin glue also received its share of hatred for a video with a well-fed black transgender. our uniqueness lies in the fact that for us there are no restrictions or prohibitions of any kind. we had to do it ourselves, that's what makes us great. plus sai and western models abounded until recently. fashion shows
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, british brands have been at the forefront of inclusivity. in february , models of different sizes, as well as pregnant women and people with disabilities, were invited to the show of the new collection of the irish designer ooder. and at milan fashion week, which followed the london shows, there was almost nothing left of inclusivity. there were at most 10 percent of the massive models. but most of all, supporters of body positivity criticized the fashion week in new york, where plus-size models were not invited at all. trends have changed in on social networks, according to experts from the university of vermont in the usa, the vast majority of content is related to the drug azempic, an injection for diabetics, has become a real hit in the western segment of the internet. bloggers say that they use it for weight correction and
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show reports before and after using the solution. the press claims that they promote their products through tiktokers. i can fit in easily. and pants. in 1 year of using the drug azempik, i lost about 10 kg. the trend for hoodaba has also swept over hollywood. the once curvaceous kim has noticeably transformed kardashian, who wore the legendary naked marilyn monroe dress to appear at mat's ball , lost a lot of weight. kardashian's mother kris jenner also halved her weight. ozzy osbourne's 70-year-old husband sharon has lost 14 kg. a similar story with jessica simpson. in a short time she lost it. 45 kg, and actress amy schumer completely took drastic measures, resorting to lipasuction, now she calls on others not to tell fairy tales about magic diets, all the liars say: “oh, i eat smaller portions, shut up, are you taking azzempic or something
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this kind of thing." stop it, stop it, be honest with people. when i had liposuction, i spoke openly about it. how appropriate is this word when discussing this topic, are you really full, uh, now i’ll try to explain why this is such a dramedy in a nutshell, we just need to understand how to prepare for what social impulses in the future, now i think it will be clear, so look at how this happens with them, but there is a global super idea, it’s beautiful, it’s good, that everything people are equal with equal opportunities, therefore they should be like this. anyone, further, in order to protect their rights, well, somehow promote this idea further, they are divided into categories, you are lgb, you mean, let’s do without these, let’s limit ourselves to fat and thin,
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today, so that simply, i’m starting to get confused by all these obese people, a separate institute is being created, not as an educational institution, but as such a formalized movement. yes, no, no, no, the institute, i understand everything, the institute, ah, it gathers around itself - such passionate people, quite loud noticeable, and they begin to promote their agenda, fight for their rights, pull up those actors or famous people who fall into their category, which is very suitable, and then it spins like a flywheel, stopping it is much more difficult than just starting it. it is necessary, here we have kim kardashian, here we have another character , that this flywheel began to spin somewhere in the other direction, continue, and then there is a subtlety, being obese is hard, well, physically hard, you climb three floors
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you’re dying, i somehow gained weight, my maximum was around 90 kg, it’s very physically difficult and that’s why those people who are now intensively losing weight, they understand perfectly well that no matter how they promote everyone else in the obese agenda, they are about they think to themselves that it has become difficult to participate in this company, they are slowly crawling away, crawling away, merging because, that is, this does not mean that some new counter-flywheel is being launched , while this counter-flywheel from vladimir viktorovich’s concept we understand that for some reason in in this institute, as you said, for some reason it woke up to common sense, that is, in all other institutions that you don’t ask to say it’s not lgbt and it doesn’t wake up there. and here for some reason he wakes up, i don’t understand, maxim anatolyevich, maybe this is some kind of new thing, maybe this is how pharmaceutical companies work, we wrote that you lost a few kilograms in your time, remember what a hog i am here was when the program began, and what a pig i was, you and i
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were two pigs, you were no longer a pig but why did you do this, because it became difficult to walk up the stairs or that at some point the spine began to bother me, i went to the doctor, the doctor was wonderful, he said: well , imagine, you put yourself in the place... of your spine, it wears an extra few tens of kilograms, but after that i have willpower, sports, i have interest , so i noted every day, that is, there is no violation of your rights as a pig, you are here, but no, well, i just dropped everything, well, of course i had to there change these t-shirts, and that’s all and it’s okay, i’m just trying to break it down, that makes sense, and there’s a protection company, as far as the company is concerned. yes, there is a spine, this is one of the most famous such houses in the world, such a situation, why i don’t think that this is some kind of company, because the topic is very controversial, against any discrimination and these people cannot be discriminated against, but it is also impossible to discriminate against those who will try
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to say that this is not good for health, joke about this topic, on facebook now i have one friend who is actively losing weight, when she wrote something not very forest probodi positive girls, she was banned, this is also wrong, and then now here’s one example, i don’t even know which side you’ll take, i, well, my hobby is driving around the world, i am the leader of tourist groups, we sometimes go to such remote places where only a small plane can fly, there was a case, though not with me, in another group, but i just know all these people, a small plane, pay we need it, but we have one traveler, he’s over 200 kilograms weighs, a dispute arose, and the group did not quarrel, he needs to pay double, triple, or - three girls who are the second here like him, and you can’t discriminate, why three times more, so, if he wants to go on a small plane to fly, he must understand that
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not every small airplane is designed for his seat, this, this price is not provided anywhere, this company maxim anatovich can sue and win in the hog format, as he calls himself, well i'm not the main pig here, that's how you are you see, but in fact in america there really are a lot of blacks, now you don’t see just like... that some new advertising campaign is starting to return to, i don’t see it yet, because, well, these are the same ones representatives of a minority definitely, here are overweight women, they can start talking about how their rights are being discriminated against and will immediately scare everyone , so i think, a step forward, various hollywood celebrities are getting involved in the matter, then pharmaceutical companies, i again continue, yes, then this is all for a reason, talk about
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some kind of social trend that body positivity, i don’t know, did not take off or flew to some heights, and then began to land slowly, there are two reasons, the first is that the pendulum really swings, we remember the twenties, it gave shame, then the end the forties, the fifties, such a very sexual modesty, then the sexual revolution of the nineties, now again a period of such modesty, at least from above , which is being imposed, here the pendulum also swings, this is the first reason, and there is a second, you remembered this medicine, this drug, well, we didn’t remember, i learned about it for the first time, it has now entered the market, and it is critically radically different from the previous various drugs, what? the fact that it essentially suppresses appetite, even people who were hungry, they wanted to lose weight, and now, but they couldn’t, as far as i understand, this drug is not for... this is not the only drug that was originally intended for one thing, and then began
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to be used for other reasons, so the story itself with bozi positive was born in that including from the fact that in america, yes, in the west they strive for comfort, including psychological comfort, it’s not that they really thought that a person who is very fat lives a healthy life, it was obvious , and doctors, doctors... tell these people: you need to lose weight , you need to lose weight, you need to exercise more , you need to eat less, but these people could not help themselves for various reasons, for some this is a pathology, some could not eat less, some could not, did not i wanted to, i was too lazy to do physical exercise, in this situation it was beneficial for the sake of psychological comfort to come up with this body positive story, when a person, in general, for various reasons, remains at this weight, but at the same time does not feel any... accept this
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the drug is no longer to worry about the fact that you need to do more physical exercise, you need to somehow limit yourself in food and don’t want to do it yourself, it turns out , it turns out that this story of body positivity is to some extent losing, losing, if possible, losing weight because these people are now got what they wanted, many of them, you know, before they needed life, because they could not give up their weight, they could not do what was necessary, but now they no longer need it, they can lose weight without taking those efforts, which, as always happens, the whole story is connected with brains, then it turns out that everyone was lying to each other, then they saw a magic pill and decided that they don’t have to lie anymore, if so, and this too, well, if possible a little more times , it will fly on a more global scale, such are you
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you ask whether there really is some kind of trend, yes, of course, there is a trend , because... now there is an opportunity to be lazy and at the same time lose weight, so yes and no, yes, on the one hand, the tendency to be lazy has remained , because i can do it quite easily, without straining, yes, without using any diets, without changing myself there, and so on and so forth, i just inject myself there, forget myself and at the same time you lose weight, everything is fine, on the other hand, there is a certain tendency , with an agenda, of course, here we are now, sort of as we look, here and there lgbt is developing something, something is showing there, but on the other hand, strictly speaking, the agenda is causing more and more critical situations, including in the west, that is, if we are now talking about, there about the fact that many western universities, american
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universities suddenly began to say that we will not admit, for example, people of color, non-white minorities. despite the fact that they know the material worse there, yes, we will give honest assessments, because there was a decision supreme court of the united states, which canceled these violations for absolutely right , we will honestly evaluate, this was impossible 3 years ago, 3 years ago and the supreme court would not have made such a decision, but what happened, why suddenly, what has changed, is it really sane the meaning he’s talking about somehow awakens, the pendulum has swung, absolutely right, right? we’ll talk about this separately now , it’s everywhere, so it’s interesting what will happen next, including here, where this pendulum has gone, this one the phrase always reminds me of the pendulum freezing along the well, i wouldn’t reduce everything just to a comfort zone, everything
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is just a agenda, in general the movement is bode positive, it appeared back in the seventies in the united states, we just didn’t hear about it, didn’t know , because it was their agenda, not ours, moreover, it arose from time to time, somewhere in the nineties it arose again, when some public organizations appeared that were more active, and all this appeared in response to the fight against discrimination, full of people, what is now it seems kind of unthinkable, i mean , there are lower wages, there are some offensive things, other medical ones, that is, it was a very real agenda for protecting the rights of a certain group of people, fat people had lower wages, that is? number was infringed upon in the seventies, as if they were struggling with this in the united states, well, just like that, i kind of studied the issue, yes, i’m preparing for topics that i’m not very well versed in, so that means , well, i’m not a supporter of body positivity, and well, i mean, i don’t mean against in the sense of not yes vyton wadi negative it’s clear look at you
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no, i’m for, i’m for every person to live the way he wants to live, i don’t see anything wrong. not in overweight people, not very thin, not at all, as long as it doesn’t affect your loved ones or yourself, that’s everyone’s business, what to do, and when it starts to take on some kind of appearance, now it comes to the fact that you say, now this is really the agenda, now it has taken on completely different forms, this agenda is convenient and politically convenient, and it is convenient for pharmaceutical companies that make money from it, it is convenient for clothing manufacturers, the fashion industry and anyone else, and this pendulum swings... based on business interests, but to consider that these trends, such fashion trends, are of some kind of mass character, well, listen, this is more and more, let’s say, a media picture, this is more and more this is really activism, what we see are all these manifestations, this is activism, the bulk of people , in the united states, in russia, in france and well, probably in africa, i
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ntv, the place where everything becomes clear. we continue. in the previous part, we somehow stopped about something very abstract, the pendulum swung somewhere, there was a whiff of something in the air, and so on. no, no, let’s now look at the stars, and not just at the stars, at the stars that actively drowned their own rather large bodies. they need to be respected, loved , and in general it’s just pride, what happened to them now? our story. the icon of body positive women, world-famous singer adele, began to rapidly lose more weight. in 2020 it completely decreased by almost half from 113 to 68 kg. the singer’s dramatic transformation gave rise to many rumors about what miracle cure helped her gain a new figure. the celebrity herself laughs it off and says it’s thanks to sports and diets. i know i look completely different, but that's all due to covid restrictions. i had to travel light and
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only take half of it with me. at home, however , such metamorphoses made us think not only about adele’s health, but about her honesty, because just recently she said that everything stereotypes about beauty and the ideal body are nonsense, and they definitely don’t need to fit into modern standards. have you ever felt too much pressure from society? no, i never, never wanted to look like a girl from the cover of a glossy magazine, on the contrary, i represent most women, i’m very proud of this, i like it , i always liked being myself, i saw people whose lives are controlled by the idea of losing weight, getting big breasts, i don’t need that, actress melissa mccarthy, you've definitely seen her in hollywood movies, became known for her curvy figure in the tv series mike and molly, she even played a lady who goes to overeaters anonymous classes, in 2015 she launched her own clothing brand for those who do not fit into the usual sizes, macarthy has repeatedly encouraged women to love
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their bodies. and not waste time on diets, but soon the star lost weight sharply, by almost 40 kg, and now praises the low-carbohydrate diet, everyone wants to know your trick, there is no trick, really, nothing to say, just a very calm, boring life, you don’t you do nothing fun, you just go to bed at half past eight in the evening, a few years ago the british singer kelly osbourne lost weight beyond recognition, she did not hide the fact that she had undergone surgery to reduce her stomach. the artist continues to lose weight and even recently stated that she considers losing weight her mission, although before she was not shy about her curves, and back in the 2000s she starred with her family in a reality show, where she ate everything she could get her hands on without embarrassment. i'm starting to worry, at least ozy hasn't lost weight, then they all somehow i would pass it on to our guests. evgey now, when i
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was preparing for the program. i looked at who is coming to us today, i, as they say, googled you, yes, i saw photographs where you are not as slim as you are now, and where it says what you mean, the winner of the competition there, if i remember correctly, miss russia plus size or something, i can type, and you asked our colleagues, guest administrators, that we should not focus on this plus-size past of yours, this is all because you just realized that the wind was blowing in the other direction side and this. they lied to you, they lied to you, they asked me how to write me in the credits, and they suggested that i write ex-model plus say , i don’t consider myself an ex, yeah, i understand, that’s all, i’m drowning in positivity and now i ’ve heard a lot of opinions, i don’t agree i don’t agree with one thing, that it’s only about fat and thin, it’s about disability, about scars, about
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veteliga, about some... some other problems about psoriasis, for example, where people are afraid to leave the house, wear some kind of revealing clothes , body positivity about the fact that you can accept your body, not just fat, thin, but also different with some , we are not blurring the problems now, we are blurring, no , no, we are blurring, well, because there are much fewer people who belong to the categories you listed than just overweight people. and out of everything, out of everything else, you don’t get the money, wait, body positivity was made , you just showed yourself about fashion week, where models ride out in wheelchairs, this is also body positivity, not only fat, thin, and me, you probably missed that after this show, we already have such examples we can’t bring you up, models in wheelchairs have disappeared, plus size models have disappeared, again everything is called up, shown, it’s just not
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every brand, but it takes it into itself, then again the question is about you, so you personally have moved from those forms that were before to forms, who are now slimmer, due to some kind of commercial component, or again, well, it’s not fashionable now, i had surgery on my jaw, i couldn’t eat, so i lost weight, in general, when i was in sports, i finished after 15 years of training in professional sports, achieving your goals success. i gained 20 kilos, yeah, i felt comfortable, it wasn’t hard for me, i had problems with my back, when i trained in synchronized swimming for 15 years, my lower back hurt. when i weighed 80 kg, i flew, my spine didn’t hurt, i didn’t have any problems, i was popular with men who showed me attention, i didn’t have any problems, i didn’t have a goal to lose weight, but i i don’t support
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it when it’s like you already said, that there are 200 plus kilograms, and people come to different programs or just somewhere on the internet they write about how they are small on the bus... the entrance because they can’t get through , for example, or a small seat on an airplane, or a small seat belt on an airplane, this is disgusting, what disgusting, i remember that when i was little i was brought up like any soviet child in soviet cartoons, venepukh tried to make a claim that someone’s doors were too narrow, but the rabbit quite rightly noted that it was someone who was eating too much, and any soviet child was on the side, i think so, what is it, what disgusting to say that in the bus needs... the rights of these people who can’t fit into the bus, let’s try to be a little kinder to you, that’s generally the idea of body positivity and how
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it’s unfolding in a mirror image now, wasn’t it originally, well, so hypocritical, maybe people are just people i just always wanted to be relatively slim, even if people called me not very slim behind my back. at one time i weighed 104 kg, i heard people call me chubby people, well, in general, i’m generally silent about soviet fatness, just nothing, no positivity with this powder, yes, with powder, not to disguise a person’s attitude towards someone who is slim, who is not, who is beautiful, excuse me, for some reason in the general consciousness it is now built with a synonym for beauty, so it turns out, you know, we are now very vigorously discussing this topic and we will, it’s not stormy yet, it’s not very calm. substitution of concepts, well, what kind of body positive, what does this mean, a good body, in the end we just
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close, no, the attitude is different, but here we turn a blind eye to the problem, and initially, let’s not lie, it still started with justify obesity. then they began to generalize and so on, as you said, disabled people and scars, that’s all, but nevertheless, there is a blurring of the problem, a substitution of concepts, as you said, absolutely, the americans even say themselves that they took this word hostage, they have such a concept, hostage , that is, taking the term hostage, because this is not body positive, this is body negative, because it turns out that they have such obesity there, this is positive, and we we’re all sitting here with you, negative bodysuits, of course not, in that case we’ll get there, they’re already showing armpits, these ones with hair, then we’ll stop washing, which means we’ll justify these lice on our heads and
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that’s it, hair is also considered body positive in america, that’s right, it’s we have already reached the point where this is my body, my business, and we will now reach the point where we will have, in principle, back to nature, this. if you believe the french media, maxim anatorevich will not let you collect, klopov in paris somehow became unexpected there are a lot of things that they will bring to the olympics, they promise, to the point that it will be necessary to open a movement in defense, and if not about infections , here’s about your personal experience, you’re a nutritionist, you had clients who came to you for a long time, for example, nothing worked for them, and they tried it, and then... in the previous part you didn’t discuss it, azempik az used it myself and i can tell her first-hand and in general with all the drugs that we recommend to patients, this it's a cure for diabetes, don't worry, you
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becomes clear, we continue, i would like to concentrate a little on our side, because now we were even arguing with vanya there with colleagues. i said that when i was little, well, the soviet period, we didn’t have so many fat people in the country, they argue with me, and the grass was greener, about the grass, ivan sergeevich, it’s on your conscience that we let’s leave this remark, there is no need, there is no need to hide behind, the word is not a sparrow flying out and you won’t catch it, everything is clear with you, but it seems to me that after all, we have the very concept of body positivity, that is, like a full person, who is the same as... everyone, well, yes, who can argue, of course, he is the same person and has the same rights, but we have an attitude towards fat people, well, to extol them somewhere, well, no , this is not our bond, we still have some idea that a person should be in some other, slightly physical form, again, let’s pay attention to the stars,
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which are indicators of all these phenomena, tv presenter anfisa chekhova became a sex symbol after the resounding success of the program sex... with anfisa chekhova's fame brought her curvaceous figures, which the celebrity was proud of and flaunted everywhere. however, it was not possible to instill in russian girls a love for a big body; the reality show model xl, with chekhova, failed among the audience. anfisa herself lost a lot of weight a few years ago and admitted that she was afraid of being bullied by fans because of her excess weight. evil tongues claimed that the tv presenter had a gastric resection and then injected herself with some drugs. she herself claims that she eats whatever she wants. eat, no i have restrictions, whatever i want, i eat, and no one will limit me from eating what i want. recently, tv presenter anastasia ivleeva boasted of losing 14 kg at once; she posted photo comparisons on a prohibited social network, wrote that she didn’t notice how
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she had become so overfed earlier in the comments, evleevi was reproached for using drugs and called a skeleton. former soloist olga orlova is losing weight intensively; at the beginning of this year, the star said that she was trying a new nutrition system and losing weight after the birth of her daughter. now i’m reading one nutrition method, when you can eat everything, not exercise, and still look great, i try it on my family, ksenia borodina carefully monitors her figure. the tv presenter has noticeably lost weight in recent years and even published her own book. a dramatic transformation occurred with polina gagaren. the singer previously weighed more than 80 kg, but then lost almost half of her weight. according to gagarina, body positivity is not about curvy shapes. this positive attitude is based on the fact that i love myself as i am, without any natals. i like this the way i am now, why should i gain more. the masters
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of domestic show business also closely monitor their weight. a few years ago, the queen of russian chanson, lyubov uspenskaya, noticeably lost weight and now shows off revealing outfits. people's artist of russia, nadezhda babkina, has been transformed. 3 years ago, the singer lost more than 20 kg, all, as she claims, thanks to intermittent fasting. this is how i lose weight, my eyes melt, is it true? no, but don’t think that i’m smart, i’m just a little bit of this, a little bit of that, otherwise people they are grounded, wow, that’s it, that’s it, vadim viktorich. who are our skinny or plump role models? we are definitely skinny, why? well, because those who followed the agenda closely and tried to follow it, they have now mostly left the russian federation, it just so happened, uh, and as if the mood for health, it didn’t really go anywhere for us,
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because what was thrown there into our media space, and that we are somehow exceptional as a country, as a people, that we. it’s normal and there too, by the way, it’s normal, that’s why they’re trying to lose weight there, it’s just not fashionable to admit it, that’s all, but here it’s fashionable here, yes, i lost weight, i teased those fat classmates in my childhood, i’m not, oh well, well stop lying, well, no, i’m a good boy from a large family of seven, that this is a question of attitude to psychological comfort, and that it is different, this is the psychological comfort of someone, of society, for which this lady here, well, she does not correspond to the idea. what about comfort, she's annoying, here she comes down the street, everyone is annoying, let’s see, there was an example, disabled people, the fate of disabled people in some shows, but it’s clear to everyone , absolutely everyone, that if this disabled person or any practically disabled person had the opportunity to regain their legs, arms, what
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-something else, they would do that in a second instead of talking about body positivity , right, that is, that’s not the point, it’s not that someone thinks that it’s great to be very obese, yes or healthy. in these conditions, if this particular disabled person, relatively speaking, would have both legs, he would never have been invited to this fashion show as a model. you know about the fact that now there is already a movement where people make themselves specially disabled, there is some aunt there, she blinded herself, but there was a very big story here, the movement of the misers was in russia and their leader kondratov was buried so that in it happened to russia too, that ’s not the point, the difference is not the difference in attitude. in russia this attitude is a little different than in russia and taking care
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that people psychologically feel feeling comfortable, not as accepted as in the west, and the attitude itself, the understanding that being disabled is bad or being obese is not good for bright companies does not mean that we are different, but we are the same, beauty standards are approximately the same everywhere. now i’m not talking about 6096 beauty standards change over time, go find this polina gagarina in rubins’ paintings, i agree, but partly i disagree, but indeed, somewhere in some times they were thinner, in other times they were fatter, the white face of the finger, as it were there is definitely not a thin figure, but never chubby, it’s not about these 20,200 plus, everything else, but where did the chubby come from in literature? where is the standard of beauty, for example, women are the opposite for men, let’s be honest, these are not the techies
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we’re talking about, in russia and in the united states and anywhere else, people try to be fit, they try, they’re just lazy, there is, for them. beauty standards are completely different, believe me, a person who has traveled all over africa, in southern africa, they are completely different, the women there are all very positive, in west africa, in senegal, these are interesting, but let’s talk about russia , after all, this is a rare case where russia, it’s like ukraine, in ukraine there was recently a scandal, well, laughter through tears, by the director of a museum.
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we have only 2 minutes at this meeting point, the question was born from the last dispute, which means that i believe that there should and is a ban on belly fat in many professions, people who make quick decisions, obese people have already been proven that the speed of decision making is lower , especially since such a person cannot be a leader, how can he lead other people if he cannot lead himself, political rights in no case, social rights in no case, professional rights perhaps, because there are some standards for some professions, but you need to do a sufficient number of push-ups if you serve in the police, and there should be information restrictions on the propaganda of everything related with obesity, vladimirovich , there shouldn’t be such restrictions, but they do exist, just for natural reasons, well
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, so it’s a very short eight, what ’s wrong with your figure, by the way, i have two children, did you devour them, or what? so it's still 16, see you tomorrow. they inspire, give knowledge and guide in life, today teachers note your professional holiday. in georgia they announced that foreigners were preparing a new color revolution, how did the serbs get involved in this matter? for the same reason, there is another scandal with the nazis in canada. the authorities had to apologize for rewarding the sesov worker. they took an injection in germany and attacked one of the leaders of an opposition political party. the winners of the nobel prize in literature have been announced in sweden. who received the high award?
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