[000:00:00;00] hello, this is the meeting place on ntv, the place where everything becomes clear, i am andrei norkin, my colleague ivan trushkin, we are working live, in general we can talk about the revolution, today we will spend the entire program arguing and talking, because that due to the sharply escalated palestinian-israeli conflict, a world revolution, well, in such a classical sense, probably won’t happen, but i think you ’ll agree with me. that certainly some political and social processes took place at such a fast pace, on such a scale that in general, we can call them revolutionary, because the established world order, established over a decade, if they do not collapse , then they change absolutely, which is not a revolution, here is the second hour, and indeed, although we celebrated the red day of the calendar in november, but still everything

the great revolution was called the october revolution, because today is exactly october 25, when the bolsheviks took power into their own hands, but this is already the second hour, so we’ll start with today’s latest news related to the progress of a special military operation, we want to show you some footage and to quote the statement of the russian minister of defense, sergei shaigu, he inspected a unit of the vostok group, please show us the footage, this is actually information from the military department, it is said that the head of the ministry inspected the forward command post of the russian group, the vostok troops in the south donetsk direction, he heard a report from the commander of the group, where, in particular, there was talk about building up the arsenal of drones and providing all units, i quote, with shock reconnaissance unmanned systems. then there was a kind of rear part, the issues of preparing the front for winter, supplying the military with everything necessary for the cold period were discussed, and now you see the ceremonial part of the event, the minister

of defense presents who received for the destroyed equipment, what was destroyed? m777, of course. okay, guys, well done, the country is proud of you, i hope your family will see it, they will recognize it, well, if they don’t recognize it , then you will let me know, but i sincerely congratulate you, fight with dignity, well, it will continue to be so, and another fragment of the communication between the minister of defense and russian military personnel, we now want to show you, there they talk about some episodes - well, let’s say, communication with

ukrainian military personnel who end up in prison, that is, this is what they caught on the street so far, and we are forced to return to the conflict in the middle east, and there the main news comes from new york, and not from the gaza strip, because everything is more difficult for this structured choir. israel's allies, maintain unconditional support for israel, well, the first to speak here was, surprisingly , the secretary general, antonio guteres, usually such a quiet person. so, speaking on tuesday at the un security council, he publicly stated that the hamas attack on israel, i quote: did not happen in a vacuum, and the palestinian people have been subjected to a suffocating occupation for 56 years. guterres called the shelling of gaza a crime,

the victims of which were , unfortunately, 35 people killed as a result of the bombing of the gaza strip, i condemn these crimes, protection of civilians is of paramount importance in any armed conflict, this does not mean that you force people to evacuate to the south, where there is no shelter, food, water, medicine and fuel, and at the same time you continue to bomb that south, i am deeply concerned about the obvious violations. international humanitarian law, which we are witnessing in the gas sector. israel, after such an absurd attack, responds very clearly, but the israeli foreign ministry says that guterres’ speech was simply a shock for them, and they are going to teach the un some kind of lesson. subsequently israel's organization stated that after such a statement, tel aviv will stop issuing visas to un representatives. deputy secretary general for humanitarian affairs, martin

grief, has reportedly already been denied entry into israel. samogorish in the israeli foreign ministry was accused of justifying terrorism, they said that under his leadership the un would face difficult times, so israel will seek the resignation of the secretary general, and the head. i think the secretary general should resign because from now on, every day he to be here in this building, unless he apologizes immediately, today, and we call on him to apologize, there is no justification for the existence of this building, it was built to prevent atrocities. how can the secretary general, in his own words, somehow justify the terrible. guterres himself is already trying to backtrack a little to soften his statement, so he published a post on his social networks, which says that the discontent of the palestinian people cannot

justify the horrific attack by hamas militants, while he adds that there is no justification and collective punishment for the palestinian people, that is, trying to maintain such objectivity , well, comrade guterres, who has taken such a crooked path of objectivity... they are already shaking their finger from washington, saying that they do not understand these context of his statements, they do not understand what this secretary general is doing there speaks at all, for washington everything is very clear. i don't know what he meant, i haven't seen this comment, i'm not sure i understand the context. biden clearly said who is to blame for october 7, hamas, not israel, not innocent israelis, above who were bullied at a music festival, it was hamas, they planned this for many months, maybe even a whole year, hamas is guilty, and bloomberg reports that the conflict in the middle east has caused discord among the best people of the brussels hostel, it is reported there that the old fascist josep barel

and the main gynecologist of europe, ursula fondern, quarreled to smithereens. the thing is that ursula, during all her last public appearances, strongly defends israel, although previously european the countries agreed on a common position on the humanitarian situation in the sector. moreover , fondern is the head of the european commission; she is not at all authorized to reflect brussels’ position on foreign policy. she doesn’t feel these shores and has already promised israel the full support of the european union. now, according to the agency, european diplomats and european officials are forced to resolve problems in relations with arab countries, and it has come to the point that the gynecologist was publicly besieged by the old fascist barel i mentioned, and the head of the european council, charles michel. well to add another half-tone to all this irritation, turkish president erdogan, during a speech in parliament, said that turkey considers hamas not a terrorist organization, but, quote, a liberation group, after which erdogan announced that

he was canceling his visit to israel. once in my life i shook hands with a man named netanyahu. we had good intentions, but they insulted us. we had plans to go to israel, but we canceled. as you know, but the road is wad, that’s all that vanya said just now, this, in my opinion, is just proof this thesis, voiced by me at the very beginning, that some processes are taking place that are absolutely changing the established world order, i will literally return in just a second to sergei shaigu’s visit to the front line, here... i’ll just quote a small piece from his statement to you that the current now the situation in the zone of a special military operation confirms that the vso has fewer and fewer opportunities, in fact , why this is happening, in my opinion, there are two reasons, firstly, this is our military, well, how

to say, activity, yes, initiative now obviously on our side, the second is that no matter how someone here assures us that the support of the west of ukraine will remain at the same level and will continue, but of course it is collapsing little by little, well, they just pay less attention to this topic, one could say that the stories are now in the middle east, it’s like ukraine number two for the west, i don’t agree with this, because it seems to me that events are going in a completely opposite way, when the west started this whole campaign against us blaming russia is that we are there and so on and so forth, in general there was no particular split there, it doesn’t matter how it was achieved through pressure, bribery, maybe someone there unknowingly took the side of the west, gradually we know, yes , that now the situation here is also changing, but here now

in the history with israel and gaza, i don’t see anything like that, but there is some kind of unity among western leaders, although van just gave several examples that they are starting with each other there swear, dog, by the way, a very good word, here but the street, that’s what vremyavic tells us all the time, he doesn’t get tired, he says, the street simply supports the palestinians almost 100%, so we can say that this is the second... some kind of internal front, let’s look at our first story, the visit emmanuel macron to israel, newspaperanion ridiculed this cartoon, where macron is nailed to an american aircraft carrier on a flimsy boat. journalists are perplexed why the president is provoking an explosion of indignation among the residents of france, where every tenth person is muslim, and macron has had relations with this part of society for a long time conflict. now, after macron’s words of support in israel, the french are afraid of terrorist attacks in their country. the authorities brush it off, saying that after the scandal with charlie hebdo, they are no longer

afraid of anything. you arrest muslims every day, the conflict only increases threats of terrorist attacks, what will happen next? of course, the atmosphere of jihadism is intensifying, but this is not only happening in france. there may be attacks, but didn’t we go through all this when we defended the right of charlie magazine to cartoons? joe also risks losing popular support biden, politico believes that he may lose the votes of the muslim electorate in the presidential elections in 2024, despite the fact that the absolute majority of american arabs and muslims in general voted for him in 2020, their support may be decisive in some states, for example in michigan or pennsylvania. last week, dissatisfied demonstrators seized the capitol and staged

a sit-in against the military. guilt towards the jews forced the german authorities to actively join in the defense of israel. chancellor scholz promptly went to tel aviv, came under fire there, and when he returned home, he put on a kippah and solemnly opened the synagogue. at the same time, ferga, almost 6 million muslims massively support palestine. the promotions cover many. in great britain, the sympathy of the streets is also on the side of the palestinians; in london alone, more than 100,000 people gathered for a rally of solidarity with the gas sector. and here is footage from the london underground: the train driver starts chanting about palestinian chants over the loudspeaker, and the passengers unanimously they pick it up. british prime minister rishi sunok pointedly ignores the voice of the people

and rushed to israel to express support for justifying the attacks on gas. the press does not agree with such a one-sided position. warning , this magazine may contain some criticism of the israeli government and may suggest that killing everyone in gaza in retaliation for hamas atrocities may not be a good long-term solution to the region's problems. european officials in brussels also rebelled. almost a thousand european commission employees wrote a letter of protest letter accusing her boss, europe's top gynecologist ursula fondern, of bias. like unconditional support for israel, quote: infuriating. the final straw was fonder's speech, in which she forgot to mention the two-state solution, which is a key position of european countries. so felix, please tell

me, in your opinion , is the european, well, western, in general , political landscape changing, or perhaps will change in the future, under the influence of all processes, well, yes, it has changed very significantly over the last 3-4 weeks, because we have all the anti-semitism, where it would not come from muslims, from some right-wingers. eyes, that there are muslims among them, yes, but now it has become obvious, yes, in fact, this is a kind of paper, yes, that now we have to admit that the pro-israeli state, in words, has 7.5% on its territory people who are determined... began to very clearly

divide, if just a year ago this would have been considered brutal racism, which would have been punished, but by law, what are you saying, here arabs and not antisem, yes, that is, this is the suppression of them, well, their race, yes , that is, so that now this will have to be recognized, and what will follow this recognition, such a question, yes, i understand, well, you’re saying , it will be necessary to admit this, well, european leaders are reluctant to admit this, and they are now openly saying that they should change migration policy, send someone home, that they will have to pass separate laws, scholz vystuks, well, in fairness, every time something... this happens when, conditionally, arab or muslim street goes out onto the street of european cities, but they always say that the laws need to be erased, we are the most active ones, we definitely go home, then after

3 weeks everyone forgets about it, it’s not a change, it’s just a small rattle that is not a cracker. now afd takes more than 22%. i don't want to run ahead. yes, yes, yes, uh, i don’t want to get ahead of myself, because zara vagnknecht is creating her own party in order to select, they began to remember her often. yes, yes, yes, now, as i understand it maybe it’s even a pre-retirement deal , please create a party to delay efforts, but now afda has such a strong influx and well, let ’s not just focus on germany right now. there, in my opinion, alexey nikolaevich objected regarding alexey nikolaevich saying that it’s not 7.5% but much more, but what’s the difference, well , big, because if in germany and today there are about 7% muslims there, you have to understand that it’s far not everything, not all are

arabs, people from the east, they are religious muslims and not all white native germans sympathize with israel , yes, that is, today, this is pro-palestinian, and the population there is about 15-20% in such a country, this will lead to some serious changes, the birth rate among migrants is higher than among the indigenous population of germany, where the birth rate is 1.4 children per woman, in the next 20 years, there will be a balance, a demographic balance in europe, in germany it is already clear that it will change, that is, it has already happened. all the changes have already happened, you just have to wait for them result, this is inevitable, therefore today's german politicians, instead of trying to cling to the past, must run ahead of the locomotive, anticipate events that will happen in 20 years, and form a new mentality, a new, new german society that will meet

new demographic realities, which are already inevitable, you somehow very, yes, very somehow, in the way that you explain, no, to be honest, i didn’t think about the prospect of 20 years, i’m interested, probably, well, the next month, six months, because yes, it’s overflowing all, east, the only correct conclusion is that this whole situation, it split society in europe and in the united states, and all over the world, this is the only one, i wonder what then and now look, because. society is split, then in countries where there are democratic regimes, then, accordingly, this will influence society’s demand for one position or another, and move politicians accordingly, which means, if we look, many western politicians are still trying to stand in line, even those who are for israel, for example, directly, they say, yes, we are for israel, but in parallel with palestine, and now

the most important thing is that we don’t need to fall for this scam, a very propaganda narrative that says that these are muslims, which means that if in europe we look these pictures, for all the pictures where there are muslims, we will also find pictures where there are absolutely, let’s say, traditional europeans, this is true, so this means even more, i’m leading to this, look, look, but if, for example, there are such countries like france, for example, germany, where there is enough large percentages of the population of muslims, then in the united states, you just started talking about baidin about these muslim voices , the situation there is fundamentally different, there are actually few muslims there and biden’s problems are not connected with muslims among blacks , a huge number of muslims, muslims there there are about 4 million muslims there, this is like official statistics, this is a small percentage, the problem is not with them, and moreover, muslims will not vote for trump either,

let’s remember what exactly trump admitted jerusalem is the capital of israel, it is the republicans, first of all, today, we said, there is a split, you took the shovel now, before our eyes, this split has increased , the last thing i’m saying is that biden’s problems are political, they are problems among his and his electorate of democrats, because that among the democrats there is a much larger number, what will all this lead to in a few years, you just use commas there, you say, but i’m also telling you what this will lead to, and i’m telling you what because of this? what exactly is it electorate, for example, biden, if we take a specific situation, it means that biden will not win the elections, everything in europe, this does not mean at all, well, what do you want so simple, this means, this means that

his policy, he will try sit on two chairs, and if he succeeds, it won’t work, he may succeed , because the republicans are openly for israel, they, by and large, do not care about palestine, the more simple and understandable us simple, now i’m just ruslan vyacheslovich, before we have gone far, you said that voters will not forgive and then you had several points, at least in the pre-interview, this could end in something, something significant in the next six months or a year, i i still can’t believe it, i’ll be honest with you, colleagues, we are now seeing the biggest protests in europe and the united states in recent history, that is, not a single issue has told the same story, split european and american society, like the events in the middle east, and now in europe , we see that the scene will be introduced entirely by politicians of a different spectrum, but those who stand, firstly, for supporting palestine, for justice, including for national interests, not for that, not for this

murderous policy of the european union towards russia, when the whole country is turned off simply by completely literary cultural heritage and not for the abolition of the palestinian people and their right to exist, but they will speak out more, here you go, look at urban, in hungary in which the infante and rybel are a naughty child. there will be similar ones somewhere else the orbans, absolutely, absolutely, will come, will come to power in europe, as for the united states, look now how they are trying to take control of the un, and the israeli leadership and the leadership of the united states are trying to dictate to the un how to behave, this is what a country that, having conquered, of course, there have never been such attacks on the un, this is simply the brightest, american continent, which was completely cleared of indians, and this... the country is trying to teach us how to live in peace, unleashing every year for the new war, this is different, yes, this is different,

they will tell you, of course, how how is this different? these evangelical missionaries who built the usa, they do not provide for any right to the existence of other peoples at all, here is russia, let’s say, the russian state, wherever it came, there is siberia, the caucasus, there central asia created national republics everywhere, you tell me show at least one national republic of indians in the usa, at least one, yes, a reservation, here is a national republic of indians, a reservation, israel did the same, being a favorite children of the usa, they came to the middle east and created differences, that there are no casinos on these reservations and maybe we will then move on to the consequences, because so far no one has told us about flying heads, let's look a little lower, what are the social consequences, we again, we focus on the western press, what can an ordinary european person feel or is already feeling due to the fact that things are flaring up more and more in the middle east? education faced unexpected consequences of the palestinian-israeli confrontation system in france, schools one after another are switching to remote learning, and

messages about mining have begun to arrive too often. we've gotten to the point where our high schools are switching to distance learning to stop calling the police. there are schools where the police have been visiting every day for the second week. but still, the main worries in the west now are because of. resources, the bloomberg agency predicts: if the conflict in the middle east intensifies, the price of oil will fly above $140, but even if there is no big war, its very anticipation is already forcing prices grow. we are in a very risky situation, we had a war in ukraine, a refusal of russian gas, sanctions on oil, and now a war in the middle east. following oil, the price of gas also rushed up, winter is already close, and winter is paired with a possible one. in the gas producing region makes us even more nervous. brussels is reassuring, the gas storage facilities are full, don’t

worry, but this does not stop the rise in energy tariffs. it got to the point that the chief commissioner for energy began to tell europeans that these are not high heat prices, but the houses you live in are not right. buildings occupy a central place in our lives. this is where we live and work. most people have a large share of theirs on them. income. 85% of existing buildings were built before 2010 and do not meet eu energy efficiency standards. the eu economic bloc is still pretending that everything is fine, although according to a political publication, last week the head of the european central bank, christine lagarde, and the head of the american ministry of finance, jeannette yellin, directly warned european ministers, expect a new surge in inflation and if oil prices continue to rise, then things will not be good. to all western governments. geopolitical tensions pose a real economic risk; if oil prices skyrocket, it will complicate

the battle to control inflation, increasing pressure... on governments on both sides of the atlantic. ian yanovich, from what i read in your pre-interview before the program, you are somehow absolutely calm, no one will feel anything in europe, everything it will be fine, they will make a fuss, calm down, can you go into detail, i just want to bring a small piece of realism into our somewhat fantastic conversation, or say, raise our discussion to an incredible level, how did it not look like a child’s drawing, where you know, here two blue dots are the sky, but here it means two sticks are the forest. you talked to the taxi driver again before no, no, i just looked at the next elections, in france the next elections are in '27, macron was elected last year for 5 years, the next one and more cannot be elected, because he is limited to two presidential terms, so talking about the terrible dangers facing macron is, well, a bit of an exaggeration, in my opinion, in germany the next federal elections are exactly 2 years from now in october 2025, 2 years is

a long time, but if we talk about the usa , since we are talking about this, in the usa, 1.1% is the muslim population, which, by the way, is mainly concentrated in dearborn in michigan, but this population is also in mostly refugees from syria, palestine and north africa, in the mid-nineties, meaning in the late eighties, early nineties. by the way, i remembered with pleasure that the founder of apple, steve jobs, is the biological son of syrian refugees, who was later adopted by an american family. that is, he is an ethnic syrian, one might say, but if, if ethnic syrians had not fled to the states at one time, perhaps there would not be today, so - for america, you see, uh, there is a very long-standing and insoluble problem between blacks and whites population, there is practically hatred between the republican and democratic parties, there are huge problems within both parties , because there are republicans, make

american great again, trumpists, the rest of the people who think these are crazy, there is... a huge problem within the democratic party, where there is democratic socialists of america like the senator, oh my god, from vermont, bernie sanders, yes, elizabeth warren from massachusetts, the rest, which is more centrist, these are the real problems of the american politics, but what is happening somewhere far away in the middle east, well, yes, this worries people, by the way, to say, that same demonstration in washington that you showed, the demonstration was of jews, yes, this is so in this and that this is exactly the whole tzimis, excuse me, it may be inappropriate that we say that the split is happening everywhere, which means, in your opinion, in europe this will all sort of settle down by itself, because the elections are far away, in america it will settle down, because in general this is of no interest to anyone, this is a problem, which is very, i just did something like this maksimich was sitting, if he wasn’t grinning, then

he was smiling somehow ironically, in fact , he’s saying the right thing, and i myself am against whipping up passions, and elections really aren’t coming soon everywhere, well, let me just specifically regarding the french situation, it is closer to me, but the elections are not coming soon, but if you listened to french television, how much are the scandals there now, and this arab-israeli topic, it is absolutely the main topic for french domestic politics, it has eclipsed everything, there a split in the national assembly, where macron does not have a majority. because the chairman of the national assembly, the lower house of parliament, she is jewish by nationality, although she does not go to synagogue as a non-believer, she said so herself, she went to israel, and as your beloved mrs. vonderlein clearly spoke out in support of israel, this caused a riot in the national one of of the main parties, he

is categorically against this approach, and they almost accuse him there, in fact, but they already have a terrible political storm going on, but what concerns the street, then everything is still to come, because by and large nothing has begun in the gas sector yet, that’s when the israeli ground operation will begin, when there will be many more casualties, and excuse me, yesterday , according to official data, 704 people died in one day in the strip gas, but you can imagine how this votsky will react. it won’t be calm, because in france it’s already not calm, but in germany it will be much calmer, because firstly, there is a large muslim diaspora there in absolute numbers, but it much calmer, because it consists of turks, kurds, somalis , who generally do not care about this conflict, and in france there is a different diaspora, there are algerians,

algerians, moroccans, tunisians, they are more organized. they are moroccans and algerians, to a large extent they are also connected with the intelligence services of their states, and these states both have 500 cars, some crazy person with a knife will come out somewhere, they will get him out, god forbid, without casualties, of course, but that no less than it has all the political consequences, wait, i’ll add to vanina you also have your remarks, fortunately now both of you and yana yanovich started talking about cars, which means when sarkozy was still minister of the interior, before the start of the presidential campaign.

he said that i’m this rabble there, well, how very yes, my acquaintances, my french, well, my french there, they said that thanks to this toughness, sarkozy won the presidential election, but now it’s the other way around, that is, against these residents. young people, well , no matter how tough you can’t behave, because they can’t, they can’t, they’re in an absolute dead end, so macron went to israel, we show this, and the press criticizes him , that he went too late, that he waited there for 16-17 days, why is everyone else already there, a german, an italian, the same ursula, everyone has already been to israel, not speaking of biden, and macron is the last, he is criticized for this, but he cannot behave differently, because with such an active france, i would not expect any serious consequences due to the fact that for france there is a permanent

political crisis - this is a constantly constant story, then they have a pension reform, then something else is constantly being burned, as if for france, and the elections are really far away, here, in the united states, there may be consequences, i will explain why, because very much. these stories about values ​​come to mind, values ​​are above all, values ​​are above all, that is why it is the democratic electorate that is now indignant at what israel is doing in palestine, and the democratic electorate is so important to biden, this is precisely the question about biden and about him, which means , further opportunities to be elected or not to be elected, this does not mean that biden will definitely not be elected, but this is an important factor that will be accordingly, and the very last, short one was said. it seems very naive to me to expect that some new political forces will appear in europe that will behave differently, they have nowhere to come from, everything has been lost for a long time, another thing is

that the old political forces, they will have to adapt to the new citizens , within the framework of these demographic changes, it cannot be otherwise, i haven’t seen anton vach as such a passion for a long time by the way, regarding the united states, do the math, and the usa - how i cover these events in palestine in what tone, you will be stunned, absolutely anti-israeli, today i just took the lead, the editor may have already been fired, so let’s take a pause, we will now continue the topic in a few minutes, don’t miss the central television, the first information show about the events and people of the week, political murders: what the ukrainian special services are doing now scare even their teachers and curators from the cia, has kiev really crossed the red lines that were drawn for it

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to israel, but regarding ukraine, they have a lot doubts, which is why the republicans, as the policy writes, want to separate these items of expenditure. in addition, they are unhappy with the amount requested for kiev, and demand that attention be switched to solving problems with mexican migrants, that is, internal american problems. the discussion of the white house request itself, the politician reports, is uncharacteristically pessimistic; the material quotes a senator, a republican, his name is mike round, he announced a request from the situation is complicated by the fact that the house of representatives has not been able to choose for itself for almost 3 weeks speaker, there are all sorts of candidates replacing one another, rare names are saying something, now mike johnson is being discussed, this mike johnson is causing heartburn in kiev, why? there is such a scale of support for ukraine, don’t be surprised, on this scale of support for ukraine he is here very poorly, because twice he voted against biden’s demands to include

expenses for ukraine in the budget, well, the dissatisfaction of ordinary americans, in fact, what kind of money are you spend our taxpayer money, dear comrades, senators and presidents, it means some kind of incomprehensible military action, but it ends up closer to the high stands, like hillary clinton recently got when she spoke at columbia university. president biden is demanding $100 billion in funding for israel, taiwan and ukraine, and we plan to unite it all and start world war iii. that's not how we negotiate. if you want to talk to me, we'll talk later. we hear them, the president does not listen to the americans. it's your opinion, we heard your opinion, sit down, thanks a lot. i was waiting for her to say at the end, please take him out and shoot him behind the scenes. his face looked just like a commissar's. let

’s return to the situation in europe, because it seems to me that, after all, i’m right, felix’s words convince me of this. said that if, or rather, not even if , but when this recognition of this problem occurs, uh, that there are a lot of, let’s call them so softly, newcomers in europe, then some inevitable political changes will begin, some processes are already underway, including, perhaps, number one, it is the most obvious, this is the process of internal security of countries, and the europeans the first thing that comes to their mind is to close down, despite the fact that they...' have already done this with it was a great pleasure just a couple of years ago, when there was covid, as you remember, then the internal borders in the european union were also closed, now history is repeating itself, please show us the material. last week, the european union started talking about the need to suspend the schengen agreement. topic

italy raised the issue at the summit of the heads of the ministry of internal affairs in luxembourg due to the increased flow of migrants along the so -called balkan route. the suspension of schengen activities is necessary due to the deterioration of the situation. italy was supported by hungary and slovenia, however, their strength was not enough to resist the european commissioners from brussels. in the european union, according to them , everything is fine and it is safe to violate the freedom of citizens. taking back control violates the right to free movement. europe must avoid this. we need to be sure that the european union protected from terrorists. we also need to make sure that we don’t have anti-semitism, that we don’t have islamophobia. however, 20 eu countries have already chosen security instead of the principles of european solidarity and have introduced internal border controls. against this background

, the british authorities announced that they would not allow palestinian refugees into their country, although ukrainians had previously been gladly accepted. in switzerland , the national conservative party won the parliamentary elections. people's party, which advocates sharp restrictions on migration and distancing from foreign conflicts, well, henry kissenger, whose family fled germany in 1938, suddenly criticized the german government for the fact that the country accepted too many migrants, this is a crime, they say, i have no complaints about the german people, but what is happening now on the streets of germany, i find crime. germany made a serious mistake by accepting too many migrants from completely different cultures, religions and faiths, because this created a

pressure group within the country. alexey nikavich, to you it doesn’t seem that europeans have somehow begun to return to this idea of ​​disengagement very often, and could this result in something more, let’s say, intensify it. look, by the way, they talked about europe, about threats to europe, one of the main threats to europe, this is not internal, external, because the european economy is tied to that very global south, without the global south, it is impossible to ensure the prosperity of europe, so this pro-israel policy, it destroys it, the readiness of the global south to be economic partners of europe, as for your question, but the train has left and nothing can be changed here, as if

the lampedusa no longer has any special significance, a critical mass has already been accumulated inside, look, according to european legislation it is impossible to expel migrants, it is necessary to expel everyone separately, in a group, when there was a conversation about this, here therefore, it is impossible to kick them out, well, simply because it is impossible to initiate some kind of criminal cases against each of the millions of turks there, so the train has left, europe does not. islamic, whatever you want, the main problem in this regard is that the old europe as it is, it has an economic model, they understand how the economy works and where the machine has levers , this new democratic europe, it has no understanding of how the economic machine works, well, if they believe that electricity

comes from a socket , you asked about disengagement, i wanted to ask felix, orban said not so long ago that the eu’s policy is similar to the soviet occupation, he says, to which the old fascist barel is answering right now, but any european country is free to leave our beautiful garden the european community doesn’t like it, go away, isn’t this a division? well, i think that in fact the train has not left, because there is... that is, you have now got this new world mess, and i don’t know how you

perceive it, will you fight against it in europe, if so, then how? i think that if the current government does not fight this, others will come who will, but it is simply possible by democratic means to divide in thuringia not to let one party into another, but if it takes on such massive weight, already on that it is forbidden. about disengagement, disengagement will inevitably happen, precisely on migrant grounds, and that is, you support my idea, between eastern and western europe, because what was said, the train has left and now we need to adapt to the new life gradually there, even you said islamic europe there , in principle, it seems to me that in old europe many politicians have come to terms with this, that not... children and grandchildren will live in such a colorful country, where there may definitely be

more muslims than catholics, given that the same the french don’t really go to church, they categorically don’t want to put up with this, post-soviet, post -communist states, because historically there was no such diaspora, african, asian, because they, well, lucky in this case, it turns out that they are more poor and not like germany or holland or denmark for migrants from the third world, they want this, their ethnic advantage is that they live there, well, in fact, poles, they don’t want european countries, like spain, italy, greece, they don’t have it, but they don’t have the kind of colonial empires that

france had and that’s why they don’t have that. when you go outside, you don’t see a single one on the street, excuse me, a swede, as you are used to seeing in pictures, sweden’s royal guards have black guards, so what, in sweden there are social ones. they don’t like it, well, this is hardly news to you, so they say, let’s say there are experts sitting here and only yan yanych is sitting, who spoils the appetite of all our viewers there, but imagine that you are not alone here, but you there are seven of them, this is what vanya tells you about the situation with migrants in sweden , this is not an isolated case, in sweden there are no problems with

migrants, you know, no, the population is entirely black, yes, and malmo is not even worth talking about, i mean i saw it with my own eyes, can you hear me, there are, there are a lot, in naples there are a lot of black people who stand on the street and sell counterfeit, gucci or some other brands, in naples and they’re just very, they catch the eye, because it’s clear that these places are bought and that these places are supported by the local mafia, yeah wonderful, this does not mean that italy has become a black country, no, it does not mean, because in italy there is quite a high bridge, in general i ended up abroad somewhere in 2002, i didn’t see this, but they told me, you just don’t you see, we live in a completely different country, half 22 years old, okay, okay, let’s now we can argue here

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leamax - purchases with a plus. this is the meeting place on ntv, the place where everything becomes clear. we continue our current debate about the revolution. but now let’s not talk about some hypothetical, but already. about the one that took place, van, literally 10 seconds, i’ll remind you about the city of the revolution that this sunday we are meeting with you in cultural center troitsky 29 at 18:00, on november 4, we will celebrate another holiday, the day of national unity, together in sochi, at the grand hotel zhemchuzhina, that ’s all i have for now, let’s have the last piece, if nothing happens, yes, informational, thanks to the western... that the united states allegedly made a very serious proposal to russia for the exchange of prisoners , here you see this man, this is paul willan, he is now serving a sentence in our mordovian

colony, and it is him that the united states apparently wants to somehow get out. news with reference to state department spokesman, cnn shared. american paul willan was detained in moscow in 2018, in the twentieth year he was sentenced to 16 years of maximum security under the article espionage. then. in court, it was established that willan collected secret information in russia and was recruiting employees of the fsb and the ministry of defense. cnn was able to contact vylon. in the conversation , he stated that negotiations for his release are still underway, although very slowly. according to the convicted person. in russia he is considered a highly valuable person, so they want someone valuable in return. willen himself, as it turned out, was very offended by us secretary of state anthony blinken, who, in his opinion , could not get him out of... russia, i told him point-blank that after leaving me here for the first time, he drew a target on my back, and by leaving me here a second time, he essentially signed

his death warrant. well, what is moscow’s reaction to all this, here are the words of deputy foreign minister sergei ribkov. he says that so far moscow has not heard of any serious proposals for willan, but they are ready all kinds of ideas to consider. much more extensively, rebkov comments on a different story, and the united states turned to russia with proposals of a different kind and passed on an unofficial level to such a certain note, as they say in the diplomatic department for arms control, although for now our foreign ministry has such a position, here we need to be consistent all american offers are on the alert. we must be on guard, and as our president has said, if the united states moves forward with nuclear testing, we will have to. answer mirror, we proceed from this in building our further line. we just showed you rebkov in the federation council, why he was there, because

just today the federation council unanimously approved the law on the recall of russia, the ratification of the comprehensive nuclear test ban treaty, before the vote, the chairman of the federation council, valentin matvienko, said that the west and the united states should hear this signal from russia if, again, they are really interested in how to support, if the united states does not continue to take steps in terms of fulfilling its obligations, this... the agreement will remain such a sham to participate in this imitation, then, of course, russia makes no sense, uh, we must, uh, eliminate the inequality in this case within the framework of a single document, re-balance the system , remove imbalances, restore justice , that’s all with the information part, andrei vladimirovich, let’s move on to our revolutionary

topic, such topics, we always, as you know, we’re trying to understand these processes of rethinking, because while i was still at school, well , then probably for a few more years already, when perestroika began, of course, on november 7, the day of the great october socialist revolution, i kind of i got used to it, then, when we had november 7th, i kind of lost this status, they started saying that it was an october revolution, this wording... october revolution, well, it didn’t seem to suit me, i’m just not used to it , this is to evaluate all this, here’s a picture of this different interpretation, we have it here today, i think, it’s depicted simply brilliantly, look, below here it’s black and white, so gloomy , absolutely like the kremlin, at the top it looks like there’s a battle going on there, but everything is so colorful, bright

such, but this is moscow, okay, first of all we need to return to st. petersburg, petrograd, six years ago, so that our guests can still express their opinion, in response to the question of what it was, october 25, 1917, immediately after the february revolution in april in 1917, vladimir lenin returned to russia from switzerland and immediately called on the bolsheviks to make a new revolution, explaining that although the february revolution led to the overthrow of the monarchy, the goals were not achieved; power passed to the bourgeois provisional government, outlined in his april theses: the new government will not can give neither the peoples of russia, nor those nations with whom the war connected us, nor peace, nor bread, nor complete freedom, therefore the working class must continue its struggle for socialism and for peace. these theses fell on fertile ground. population of russia at that time i was already tired of participating in the first world war. if the interim government

advocated the continuation of hostilities. then, increasingly popular among the people, the councils of working soldiers’ and peasants’ deputies sought to end the war. dual power was established in the country. at this moment comes what historians will call the term dual power. we have a provisional government, we have petrosov. ah, under the petrost of the army, the navy, the petrograd garrison, that is, the force that holds the telephone, telegraph and railway. provisional government. this is a legitimate government. in july 1917, the bolsheviks, in alliance with the anarchists, made their first attempt to seize power in petrograd. on july 4 , tens of thousands of armed people, including soldiers, took to the streets with slogans: all power in council. the demonstration led to armed clashes, killing dozens and injuring hundreds of people. the provisional government accused lenin and zinoviev of organizing unrest in an attempt to seize power in order to

avoid arrest. both fled to the village of razliv, where they lived in a hut, and after lenin crossed to finland. in october, he secretly returned to petrograd and called for a new armed uprising, which caused disagreement in the party leadership. zinoviev and kamenev were against the revolution, but trotsky hesitated. the concept that he abandoned, let’s label trotskaya, even before the revolution, as a political prostitute, has gone down in history, that is, for him, that’s how you understand it. hesitation, lack of stability, clarity, in the political party line. october 25, the bolsheviks did not meet resistance, captured key objects of petrograd, the telegraph, telephone exchange, train stations, the main power plant, food warehouses and the state bank. the storming of the winter palace, where the provisional government was meeting, took place in the evening after a signal salvo from aurora, the palace fell

almost without a fight, this is how the soviet stage of russian history began, comrade , the christian revolution, the need for which the bolsheviks were always talking about, accomplished, well, we are completely canonical now here are two pictures, the film october from einstein, who was filming. to the tenth anniversary of the great october, from where we each have gates here in the subcortex, and on the palace, which revolutionary soldiers climb there. sailors, which didn’t happen, and romovsky lenin in october, on his twentieth anniversary, 1937, with this visualization of the scene about the rabotchikayan union, well, come on, you’re the first konstantin alexander, so what was it,

it was a coup d’etat, and, here you are talking that you, for example, don’t like the term october, that i don’t i like it, so the most interesting thing is that the term october coup - this term did not cause rejection by the new government, that is , yes it was really a coup, why a coup, then they began to say that it was a revolution, that is, it was this that the provisional government basically missed everything is from our own hands, that is, when we talk about some patterns, we can say that during

its activities since february of the seventeenth year, the provisional government, in the course of its , let’s say, transformation, in general, lost everything it could, on my tongue another one is spinning... in the end, in the end, the power had to come to replace the provisional one, and if we look at the provisional government, because as a provisional government there were first the cadets, everyone and then the leftists, and that is, everything should have to reach your point, the point was either the socialist revolutionaries, or the bolsheviks, or i, too, a little, listen, i would sit down now, i would drive everyone away and sit down with you, you told me all this, no, it was a joke, i just -i want to turn a little. these are the events of october '17 november according to the new style, but to give them, to stick some kind of label on them, to give them some kind of assessment, that is, apparently it would not be worth it at all, well, this probably happened for some

ideological reasons, because a coup is probably not very good, but revolution is a connotation, well, it seems like something very useful for the people happened , but initially, that is, here in general , we don’t need to evaluate revolution, now we must move away from the concept of revolution as a sacred cow, that is, revolution is the brightest thing there is no, a revolution is a violent change in the existing system, by violence, it is a reform carried out by force, it is a reform carried out against all odds, with the help, the last argument, from this point of view, i was told at school, but again a revolution is something like that.. . some kind of global change in the state policy of the state system, which then brings exceptional benefits, just wait, here’s a puch, because the october puch also spoke a little, but for me

a puch is when i’m really something of the country south america and it’s all very bad and disgusting, it’s from the category of a spy, that is, that’s why, that’s why no, revolution, that’s it, now we can say that if we consider the revolution, there from a philosophical point of view, from any other point of view, it’s ... precisely violent changes, and we are already ready for such, and why not, this is normal, then to vyacheslav nikolaevich, because if these are violent changes in power, well, probably , it’s hard to deny, then we’re not here we can put positive tones, because that violent changes in power in our current parade and system of coordinated actions happened directly after, this is what you and i see, nevertheless, we again see this violence, well , firstly, there is no need to oppose coups... revolutions , why, because the english word revolution is a revolution, but i’m not opposing it, that is, it ’s the same thing in fact, plus revolutions, they have happened in all times and peoples, we have not the first and not the last revolution, so this

a bypassed phenomenon, now about violence, one of the great figures of the past, almost anton ivanovichnikin, said that by october of the seventeenth year, power was lying on the street, the bolsheviks, the communist party, the first one who will be quoted, he will quote, i ’m talking about this, there was no violent coup , okay, listen, here you are again turning to this very film , the bolsheviks are running, the machine gun is firing, the cannon from aurora is, so to speak, watered, in fact, it was an almost bloodless coup, here is the february revolution, about 1,600 people during the battles, in the october revolution in petrograd, so to speak, practically no one, well, they stormed the cadet school, soldiers, and that was practically the whole... the march of soviet power without resistance

, it all happened. that is, there was no violence in october, november and so on, a bunch of belochekhov, in the eighteenth year, there was none, i understand that shelling from the kremlin artillery is not violence, but it is, arosev, passing by, shot at the kremlin with direct fire, let’s but now we won’t organize idf-hamas, nothing was. this is not just a shift in power in our country

; everything social has been destroyed. which grew over 1000 years of russian statehood, statehood was destroyed, power was destroyed, the dynasty was destroyed , all laws, all traditional measures of weights, chronology were abolished, that is, in fact , the bolsheviks ripped away everything that had been for a thousand years, but somehow this can’t stop you, no, i’m saying, you were just talking, you will later tell in your communist academy how smolin is wrong, now i i’ll speak, well, whether it was or wasn’t, thank god, unfortunately, it was , unfortunately, it was, it was really such a total destruction of russian life in layers, and indeed in the seventeenth year they started with the state, they started with the authorities, they started with dynasties, they started with laws, they destroyed the senate, the duma, and representative institutions. zemstvo, and then they began

to gradually tear off layer by layer, the nobility was removed, destroyed, the clergy was destroyed, then they began to engage in christianism, practically it for the soviet time, the twenties, thirties, christianism was russian, it was precisely this that gave rise to the growth of the russian nation, this is the quantitative fertile layer that it created over the course of a millennium, this is... about which today we are its representatives and want it to be what - in this way i treated myself more humanely and did not arrange such events anymore; in the future, there is a bright, humane, useful for the country , there is absolutely nothing useful, because a revolution is not the beginning of something new, it is destruction old something new, not always, not always tacola.

in this case, it is very difficult to speak after michal barisivich, because i agree with the main provisions, but i would characterize, firstly, the coup itself as a three-stage coup, as an unsuccessful summer attempt, as on october 25 itself, the coup itself ended with the dispersal of the constituent assembly, after this , it was impossible to talk about any legitimacy, which means, in fact, you can call this a coup of the revolution. whatever, in fact, it was a disaster, so a socio-economic catastrophe, a catastrophe, a psychological one, in general, any catastrophe has already happened, therefore the revolution has occurred, accordingly, which means that we must treat it this way, not only do we now have the opportunity to express this point of view, in general, somewhere

... to the end, to the middle, to the end of the twenties, and the fact that it was a catastrophe was understood even by the bolsheviks themselves, and despite all the controversial reproaches, yes, which are there, this is a separate conversation, but regarding stalin, stalin became restore at least statehood, and abandoned trodsky’s point of view that this is a match that should develop a world fire and so on. well, by the end of the twenties, somewhere all this happened, respectively, the second is this imperial move, it entailed an additional catastrophe, you’ve been gone for forty years already, the attitude, well, something like this, you all want i should tell ivana, our viewers, that i, the one who hasn’t been rebuilt there, well, damn, i don’t know how

to find it, yes, well, in general, in any case, i’m some kind of victim of ideology, because of course, for most of my life i could say that ntv and your work and... today’s meeting was possible only after the revolution became a thing of the past along with the communist regime. nothing would have happened at our meeting, the ntv television company appeared in 1993 and began working when the soviet union no longer existed, so now it’s difficult for me to say what would have happened if we had worked in communist times, let’s take a short pause, this one here's the work on this assessment. we will continue the program now, only now there will be a turn bogdan anatolyevich, short break. well, let's go, you can be whoever you want, break

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for organizing vsebucha, when a semi-literate country a few years later became the most literate in the world. but the founder of the ldpr, vladimir zhirinovsky , was always extremely critical of the revolution and personally of vladimir ilch. the bolsheviks slaughtered the entire elite of the best officials, scientists, officers, and police. detectives, well, all the best, or on a holiday in siberia, or simply shot, open the works of your saint lenin, well , shoot on every page, shoot, open 55 volumes, the leader of the faction just russia for the truth, sergei mironov, is sure that the events of those years should be taken as a lesson for the future and always bring the reforms started to the end, he recalled the famous words of alexander kerensky, the head of the provisional government, he was once

asked, would it be possible after the overthrow of the autocracy, all reforms slowed down, ultimately giving the opportunity to the bolsheviks and lenin to carry out what we now call the great october revolution, neither by the centenary of october, nor later, the state of the official interpretation of the russian revolution... did not give, the president was asked direct questions about this during press conferences more than once, to one of them vladimir putin answered: lenin laid a mine under the thousand-year-old russian statehood. everyone accused the tsarist regime of repressions, which began the formation of soviet power with mass repressions. i ’m not even talking about the scale, but just the most extreme example is the destruction and execution of the royal family, but they could have done it together with the children. there could be some other ideas considerations about the need to eradicate, so to speak, possible

heirs, uh, but why did they kill doctor botkin, why did they kill the servants, people of generally proletarian origin, for what? in order to hide a crime? bogdan anatelevich, it’s not for nothing that we ask about grades, because i honestly don’t understand how to tell schoolchildren about this now. about the october events, this also needs to be given in context, what is good and what is bad, and here we come up against the clash that we have, we need to give such an assessment, well, because history lessons for schoolchildren are probably still an evaluative thing, evaluations cannot be used to evaluate any event at all, i will immediately note, i made several comments, the first thing that prevents you from doing exactly what you are talking about is the first is the absence of ideology in the state, that is, it is precisely the absence of goals and tasks for moving the future, the second is the absence of historical politics, we don’t have it, so we cannot say whether this is good or this is bad, but we are talking about something we don't talk at all, we're talking about

we forget about this, as for the october revolution, and we should, that’s good, how should we look, how just now, when vyacheslav nikolaevich quoted denikin, mikhail borisovich said that for quoting denikin there in soviet times it was possible, no, andrey vladimirovich, i prefer large strokes, very large, not a quote, can i be one of the quotes. large, that is, we cannot, look, you say, we must definitely give an assessment, that is, we cannot say that we had white heroes, we had red heroes, i just give assessments i can, wait. i understand, he asks the question, how is it now for the kids who are studying at school, everything was explained to me, everything is clear, i understand, yes, but within the framework of any myth, anything can be explained, there is a criterion, so i adhere to it, this results for russia and for the russian people, firstly, the revolution did not achieve any of its goals , it promised peace, what it brought, it brought civil war, the peace of bresse with occupation, right up to russia from the territory

of the present, and 10 to 17 million victims of the civil war, devastation, destroyed economy, completely... ruined plans for military construction, civil love, she promised the workers factories, the result was a kind of version of state capitalism, she promised the peasants land, instead the peasants became serfs, new until the fifties, so that my paternal ancestors were peasants, they received a passport only if they went to get a job at a factory, and before that you worked here for pennies in workdays, the revolution did not achieve a single goal, they destroyed one class society, built a new one when built houses for the soviet elite, there were provisions. it’s so bad that we defeated all of europe , let me finish, finish, where are there several more large criteria for assessing the soviet period specifically, very large ones, this is that you can cut off all the small ones, the first thing is the national policy of the bolsheviks, that’s it led to what we now see in ukraine, in karabakh, the kyrgyz are slaughtering the uzbeks,

the uzbeks are slaughtering the kyrgyz, everyone is slaughtering the turoks and so on, all these mines between the ossetians and the georgians when they began to fight in at the end of the eighties, what didn’t explode before, why because because there was general pressure when it collapsed, you yourself can be like that, i’ll finish try, who destroyed the soviet union, what did the denikins come to destroy it, the bolsheviks themselves destroyed it, all like cheers, the bolsheviks weren’t there at that time, in addition to the national policy of the bolsheviks, this was also their attitude towards christianity, and even here i’m not taking the church from the bolsheviks. their pocket churches, there was a living church, namely, they tried to eradicate christianity, and the third, what can i say here, yes, they built a society, there were certain positive moments in it, social aspects, pensions, vacations there, a lot of other things and so on, but people at the end of this society stopped wanting to live in it, you remember what rallies there were

at the end of the ussr, millions of people came out to these, why, if everything was so good and wonderful , people, at least on paper, wanted to preserve the soviet, i understand that it’s hard for you, because in general it turns out that you’re kind of the only one against three, konstantin, he is we are hovering over the battle, as if, no, well, ah, but look, it’s still a little strange thing, all the arguments of your opponents, which point to, well, i can’t even say, mistakes, but crimes, well this is what the president was talking about, you... always object like this, but how come we won the war there later, no one disputes, just as no one disputes, no, he ’s talking about what happened right away, nikolaevich, you are talking about what was then achieved at the cost of gigantic sacrifices, including that we produced what you can say, because there was a civil war, no, there was foreign

intervention, as we are saying now, this is not a war with ukraine. are we currently at war with ukraine or with nato? we are at war with nato then we were at war with the entente was our ally in the first world war you clashed with your germany about technology about technology in fact the gurlu plan is a plan to eliminate all general illiteracy building schools a plan to build a large fleet this was all laid down in the empire. stalin, as a man who simply had state thinking, he came to this, nikolai fought with japan and germany, and stalin fought with japan and germany, this is a challenge, wait, i understand how we can try to distribute now, but we can come to you, konstantin alexandrovich again, to divide the relations directly to the soviet regime and the soviet period, in which there were obviously positive things, but we all understand this and the attitude of the thing, this is an amazing phenomenon,

the people sitting here, brought up before the soviet regime, so to speak, say that everything was badly. among the people present here in our studio there are 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 people, how many of them at least one of them were repressed, i mean already share the attitude to share the attitude towards the soviet period and the revolution itself, and is it possible for this piece? do this? for example, having condemned the methods of the revolution and so on and so forth, keep in your head, well, the advantages of the soviet, saying, now is a minute, a minute of absurdity, a revolution. this is bad, then the bolshevik soviet government is generally a mess, how bad, that’s it then everything seems to be fine, in general, and the women won the war, and therefore the player konstantin will answer, which means here, firstly,

there is no need to separate anything, but you need to remember one thing that, by and large, a revolution is always a crime, in there was a time, that means there was a phrase said, in my opinion by a cartel, that a revolution is made by fanatics , a revolution is conceived by idealists, carried out by fanatics, and its fruits are used by scum, are you talking about the ninety-first year, probably not, i’m talking about all revolutions , including the ninety-first, including, excluding the seventeenth, and the ninety-first and the ninetieth, well, ninety, any revolution is like that , a revolution is violence, which is, in principle , alien to the normal development of man, why then do we have it now, if all this is bad, and i’m talking about us now, let’s have we have some embellishment.

in general, it’s just incomprehensible if, as it were, a crime is a revolution, a criminal government, which means it must be condemned, in the end that’s all, no, that means , look, there is one thing here, we must remember, we must remember about one thing that no one wants to remember from politicians, why, why doesn’t he want to, because it’s not profitable for him, there is development, historical development. countries, you see, gagarin flew into space, this is the merit of the bolsheviks. wait, this is the development of the country, that is, our gagarin flew into space, this is the merit of the bolsheviks, and the americans flew into space, here it is not the bolsheviks, but this is normal, because it was a normal development, any country at this time came to the fact that it is possible to fly into space, and this is not the merit of the american bolshevikism, there and so on

in the fact that social security has become, not only here, we have our own, by the way, we don’t quite have it there, so to speak, it has actively developed, in germany it has its own, in the states it has its own, social, why, because this idea of ​​a social state began to develop more actively, feminism, relatively speaking , also after it began to develop, it began to develop everywhere. not only was the burqa with the woman of the east collected there, it all started there in england, in france and in the states, why? these are the same laws of development, but each country has its own government, what does it do? because first of all, he’s trying to appropriate it for himself , naturally, but what about the holy cause, because if you don’t appropriate the gogarian victory for yourself, then it turns out, i’m sorry, a failure, why? we have an economic crisis, but not there, why?

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so what, but on a national scale. it’s very difficult, why is it difficult, but to give this assessment, now we will give you the opportunity to listen to one point of view, this is the point of view of elizaveta likhacheva, she was in our program at one time, at the time when she speaks, she was the director shusevsky architectural museum, now i think it ’s pushkinsky, but it’s already been there for a certain number of months, listen to what she says, i can tell why it’s still lying there, why, because soviet power has not ended yet. that is, the moment when he is finally buried will be our farewell to the soviet regime, will it be the final point when this will happen? i think in 15:20, when those who are still 40 years old finally leave, the pendulum remains for 40 years, well, listen, well , no matter how we feel about ourselves, we are of course very different from our parents at our age, yes, but let's be honest, we all come from there, so mikhail borivich, that is , soviet power did not end with us, you once we discussed this topic, i think that

we can’t possibly move on to the natural stage of calm reasoning about those times? why can’t we, it seems to me, build some kind of project for the future for our country. because we are constantly rushing between two socialist ones, either to build again , try switzerland or the united states , in this version of liberal democracy, or people say, listen, everything is so bad, here in the nineties, let’s go back to the soviet union, there’s something there after all there was 120 rubles, there was something like we remember the tv is so quiet , you are offering us the russian empire, i am offering , i am offering you, you know, for starters, to go somewhere, which seems important to me in this topic, what is important in this topic

is the difference in the principles of development of a revolutionary society of an ordinary traditional society, a traditional society, it believes that no matter how many problems it has, this is the problem of the people actually in it, we need to think about how this... change these people for the better on the other hand, the revolutionary society says, if there are any problems , then we need to tear down this society and start building something new, this is the difference between violence and the difference between education, i would say so, the soviet methods of leading the country are always a solution to problems through violence, let’s say, let’s solve the problem with education, it’s a good topic, but let’s all be literate, but that’s how it goes... in 1930 , universal primary education was there, and then famine began, and then repression began, and collectivization began right there. , that’s right, so the problem is, is it possible

to make some changes in society without violence, why do i have to talk to him all the time, because you have some kind of class that needs to be called out socially, you are like representatives of the problem, can i will continue, no, i you... i can only speak , you have confused me, so look, what is the problem, i absolutely agree with you, as this is not the only one, you have already given me a lot of ideas, but the problem is that in order to understand where we want to go, wanma said, we we must understand what we actually went through, how? but since we are all in such polar positions, it turns out to be a vicious circle , we must give this assessment, and we must change it, change what we don’t like, this is the main key question, do we need to again use methods

of violence against ourselves, but some people may not agree with you , these people should be in prison, so alexander nikolaevich, well, including today’s, respected meeting and expressing my point of view, testifies that confrontation, internal, what i call a latent civil war, in general it has not gone away, and before deciding

on the further image of the future... to the extent that it is probably impossible without this, this is what is possible without violence from my point of view , and even the current russian economy in the current conditions proves that where the influence and intervention of the state is either insignificant or absent in the office, in general the situation is quite normal, in the production of many, but as manilov said, the necessary peasants, also now. a controversial point, it seems to me, why, there is furniture, there is, and there is a lot of things, it’s just that when 2020 came, everyone ran to that same state help, even those who felt very confident during the coronavirus times, well

we will deny it, that the situation with the coronavirus was complete idiocy, this is not what we are talking about now, this is not what we are talking about now, this civil war, because you say, you can use violence here, you shouldn’t use violence here, let's say, let's say, it's more likely not than yes, but let's say, how will you then stop this latent civil war in your heads, if you still commit violence, it's difficult to stop it, some kind of public consensus, well, some people think that if lenin bury, then this consensus will come, i don’t know, it’s a long process , it’s a lot of work and it’s a very careful, careful work that needs to be combined with a variety of different ones, simply using violence, you offer the same methods of the bolsheviks that you proposed, just a characteristic

moment. it is already practically impossible to build on the basis of good agreement within society. why then should we accept many people who adhere to the diametrically opposite? watch calmly, time will put all this in its place, bogdanich, listen, 160 years have passed, just where to go , from my point of view, a very simple criterion, it should be favorable for the development of russia, the russian of all russian peoples, if there are any then useful soviet practices, vacation, there is a pension, everything else, please, we want to preserve them, naturally, but this does not mean at all that we should not evaluate the october revolution as a tragedy, the main lesson of the october revolution, we should not allow external interference. if someone wants to compete with each other, please, get elected to deputies

, get elected to self-government bodies, go to the meeting place program, find out here, and the soviet period as a legacy of the revolution, how we should evaluate the soviet period, firstly , as a historian, i would divide it into two periods, pre-war and post-war, they are very different, secondly, let's separate the soviet communist ideology, and a number of practices in which we really still live, we have an asymmetrical federation, we... the region is completely unequal in status to the republic of tatarstan or even more so the republic of chechnya, these are completely different in status and capabilities of the region. these are national policies that we inherited . there weren’t any in the soviet union, certainly there weren’t at all, a little bit, but no more, if in this situation we look precisely from the point of view of the criterion of national conservation, which is common to all other peoples, let’s move towards a consensus option that will suit everyone, but which will be truly fair. well for this. somehow at least it’s not very clear how it is, we have time left, no, that’s it, then

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great revolution. in russia there is no consensus yet, because in our media education is very often dominated by anti-soviet views, in that there was already a consensus on the revolution in soviet times, everyone there who did not show enthusiasm was perceived as anti-soviet , therefore, here it is desirable that, after all, in society we come to the idea that whether we need to continue to carry out any social... it becomes a pity and we finally begin to respect ourselves, then we must understand that there is no self-repression in our society should never again exist, and accordingly no evolutions, konstantin, consensus

will be reached, but there are two options, first, if nothing is done, then consensus will be reached in 20 years, because in principle, when we look at historical research, we see that the process is underway only one way. the second option is if there is political will, when it is simply announced that consensus has been reached. and then, let’s assume, when the prosecutor’s office decides this, then all this will be decided. no, but i’m not talking about the prosecutor’s office, it seems to me that there will be a consensus when at least some kind of evaluative history is finally written into the history books, three or four generations will grow up that. in a sense, it’s also violence, i know one thing, that if we talk about... my topic, and according to some anecdotes, when, why is this a separate topic for cultural research, i don’t know, but at some point the jokes about vladimirovch lenin

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