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[000:00:00;00] was in multiple fractures, that is, multi-salted, multi-fragmented, so it was necessary to recreate the skull, acquire an anatomical shape, plus work with multiple wounds, this is actually very delicate work and creative, and that is, to recreate how it was during life is very difficult. ekaterina said that she also embalms bodies. legally, all bodies can be embalmed. there is a difference: pathological corpses, there are forensic corpses, if crime is acceptable, but after a murder, it is impossible in any way in case of embalming, injecting some kind of preservative liquids into the human body, and this is prohibited by law , if we allow pathological examinations, then they can be embalmed, if forensic corpses, such actions cannot be carried out, ekaterina, but
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is the post-mortem makeup service in general demand? now it seems to be developing, but not so much developed, and i remember when i first suggested doing posthumous makeup, my relatives looked at me as if i was crazy and refused, in general there is no interest in posthumous makeup was very strong in ancient egypt , because the fact whether a person’s soul goes to the afterlife or not depended on it, because the ancient egyptians believed that if something happens to the body, if it begins to decompose. if a person drowned, he was eaten by wild animals there, then the soul cannot go to another world, accordingly , this was necessary, and then for several thousand years this trend stopped, and then after the middle ages in modern times, the christian idea of the resurrection of the body is rethought, and accordingly people they begin to actively think about the fact that the body needs to be embalmed and post-mortem makeup needs to be applied, so this trend
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appears in europe: somewhere in the 18th century. ekaterina, when did your creative journey in such an unusual profession begin? this all happened since childhood, that is, i had parents, a mother, a father, and one day they turned on a horror film, in this horror film, there was a main character who had his own funeral home. and then i tell my parents, let’s go, i say, we have housing there, we are in a private house, i say, let’s go in the garage, i say, we’ll do this one, we’ll produce the coffins, we’ll supply the blanks. we’ll make blanks and sell them virtually to the company, they said, you’re completely crazy, they said no, come on, stop already, oh well, then as i got older, i already realized that i’ll probably go to study to become a pathologist or medical examiner , medical, and then, when it came to education, and my parents said that we couldn’t pay for a medical university, there was no money , i couldn’t go for a fee either, but in the end
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the question arose, where to go, i say, i then i'll go on... i’ll go to work in the authorities, my mother says, there are plenty of lawyers, you don’t need it, everyone goes to education, there is commerce, trade business, so you will go there, that is, that’s all, that is, my mother decided, well, in general, i graduated, my first education was in commerce, trade, well, then i already graduated from law school, and why didn’t i then go to medical school, because i got married at the age of 18, i already had a family, that is, you need to study there full-time, i i just couldn’t do it, after the authorities i quit, got a private detective’s license, then... i i opened my own funeral home and when i hired an embalmer who came, i understood, i ask, do you have a medical education, he says, i don’t have a medical education, i say, how do you embalm, he’s not required there, and i started to kind of think, this is it, this is where i want to go, where i want to study, i’m not a doctor, but i can work with bodies, and i started looking on the internet, where they teach this, but it’s like in every profession , you know, it’s easier to do it yourself than to explain what you want,
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yes, that's right, okay, ekaterina? i’ll ask you now the question that’s popping up in everyone’s mind right now: aren’t you scared? no, and you’ve never had any fainting or suffocation from formaldehyde, well, specifically from formaldehyde , but it’s not related to fear, it happened once, and a man died in egypt, they couldn’t deport him from there for 2 weeks, but well i finally arrived , as if i opened this grobkophage , i got a blast of armalin right in my face, i just didn’t expect it to be so... strong, they pumped it up completely from head to toe, it burned me deep throat, teary eye, well, of course i follow protective measures, but i just didn’t expect that it happened like this, yes, maria, well, it’s probably very dangerous, what ekaterina is talking about, these pores of formalin, tan practice is a profession associated with some very subtle matters, in principle, it is a very dangerous profession, there is a very high level of risk, in principle, it must
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be observed as much as possible. various putrefactive processes develop, and in fact, a person can emit a so-called corpse odor, contains cadaveric poison, cadaveric poison, mainly contains substances such as ptamains, these substances emit some harmful pores, the main danger is getting into the upper respiratory tract, and such substances can cause poisoning, so it is actually very important to work in respirators, and i think that any professional who is a thanatopractor always follows these rules, safety precautions and works with gloves, because it is clear that touching this with bare hands is strictly prohibited, so that this should not happen under any circumstances. contact some kind of bodily. ekaterina, do you follow safety precautions? yes, i definitely wear a mask, gloves, that is, a protective screen, and a cap, well, that’s basically it. ekaterina, but doesn’t your work
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leave any imprint on you, on your life, on your thoughts? you know, it’s all in our head, that is, it must be accepted, death must be accepted, there is death, there is life. and in general, now it seems to me that there is a wall, i come to work, i... i’m trying to get rid of it, that is, i’m doing my job, that is, i’m at work, i don’t even have time think about it, we have a story about your workdays, which really not everyone can stand, let’s see, ekaterina kostaleva’s workdays begin at 6 am in order to have time to complete a huge amount of work, a man drowned to order in the village next to us , behind the wall from the hall strewn with art, they bring these kind of blanks from such blanks , we make something like this, we trim the coffins and make this beauty, then we display the showroom like this, so we
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use a rubber band to cover this velvet with a stapler we fasten it all to the tree, then the priestess of mourning gathers the deceased on their last journey in a white robe and gloves. catherine enters the room lined with white tiles, left completely alone, and gets to work. she puts makeup on from one to five dead people a day. first, we must examine the body, what we need to change, what we need to take with us, what means we bring here, which means there is a place at work to eliminate all this. after the examination , ekaterina opens a silver case where cosmetics for post-mortem makeup are stored. the remedy is here. a variety of specialized eye shadows, lipsticks and foundations in different shades. we have a bluish complexion, which means we need to take a corrector
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, we have a special paint like this that will work here, it’s a tonic remedy, it’s specially used for dead bodies, this kind of paint, it already comes with formaldehyde and prevents further decomposition, well how would be with a combination of certain manipulations. light make-up takes ekaterina 15 minutes, but if there is severe damage, their restoration can take several hours, after ekaterina treats the surfaces and takes the body to the freezer, where it remains until the farewell ceremony, a specialized refrigerator, where it will stay here until tomorrow, until the ceremony itself, we put this piece of paper for the funeral service employees, so that they know that there was and were extremely neat, somehow this story doesn’t bother me at all, you see, if this is a certain area of our life, then someone should do it, one way or another, anastasia, you
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could choose the same profession for yourself, which one did catherine choose? of course, no, i can’t cope, there was once a funeral in my life, for me it was probably quite a traumatic and difficult experience and imagine that i came to work every day, looked at it, as if i were alive, looking at it the dead body understood that, for example, the same thing awaits me, i am a person who, precisely, i cannot switch off, i am immersed in this very deeply, and this profession would very quickly, well, not just drive me crazy, but devastate me, evgeny, how about you can you explain? why did catherine choose this profession for herself? well, i believe that this choice is the choice of a person who follows the path of extinguishing his anxiety, when catherine interacts with the bodies of dead
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people, she feels more alive than all the living, and this is so, because i see the edge of this death, i i see the faces of this death, i feel as alive and active as possible, the point is that we perceive the very phenomenon of death differently, for me, this is what i was talking about, for example, as for a relative who i came to say goodbye to a loved one, an inexpensive person, this body is lying... in a coffin, this is not just a corpse, this is a person with whom we fished, hunted, maybe did something else very important to me, now that i i see all this, i experience it on a deeper level of my mental organization, what we call the subconscious, and for ekaterina, no matter how cynical it may sound, it’s just material, that’s all, and as a highly qualified specialist, she able to disconnect from these emotional experiences. olga, catherine’s profession mainly... pushes people or causes fear? how can this be explained from a
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psychological point of view? this is animal fear, instinct, self-preservation, and elementary education, that we all live, and we will all die, people don’t want to understand this, they don’t even want to even think about it, thinking that this won’t happen to them, and professionals with healthy motivation, it does not carry any psychology... that is, to say goodbye with dignity to your beloved loved one. ekaterina, and how do your family, your parents, for example, feel about your profession , well, i don’t have a mom, with my dad, i’ve had such a relationship with him since childhood, well, well, well, nothing, well, his attitude is probably normal, he’s like me i didn’t say anything about this when
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i started this. my mother was already deeply ill with onology, she was honestly, well, completely out of my time, well, she didn’t say anything against me, let’s put it this way, and when you said goodbye to your mother, forgive me, you yourself prepared her for the funeral, or entrusted her to another tonata practice? but there was no tonata-practitioner, there was a pain-supervisor, it turned out that when my mother died, i urgently needed... my dear one served in the army, i urgently needed to prepare documents for his departure, well, in the spring, as it were, so that he arrived in time for the ceremony as a farewell, while i was doing the paperwork, the embalmer had already arrived, when i arrived, everything was already ready, she had no makeup on, ekaterina, what kind of relationship did you have with your mother, my mother and i have never been friends, as i got older i realized that it was probably just my mother my mother didn’t like me, she never heard the word love , so she probably couldn’t say it to me, she
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only said it when she was dying, it probably happened only once, my mother was such a tough woman, that as she said, it will be so, that’s why you got married so early, right? yes, i really wanted to leave home, because in principle i didn’t have a childhood , if it was summer, then it was a sports camp, we didn’t have weekends, holidays, anything, it was either exhausted training, or work at home, so how is your life ekaterina after marriage? yes, marriage did not live up to my hopes, is he old now? 11 also twisted the weight and said, you are some kind of abnormal crazy person, well, that is , in principle, he also did not support me, and we separated against this background, and there were children in this marriage? yes, by the way, we had a child, he was about a year old, and after the divorce, new men tried to hit on you? after marriage i had relationships, they lasted one and a half or even 2 years, in general there was no support, he, how can i continue to exist then? as i understand it, all men
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are scared off by your profession, katya? perhaps, ruslan, you could date a woman in such a profession? no, well, let's start with the fact that i am a family man, i am monogamous - this is one position, and so, if we are to develop this topic, wonderful katerina, multifaceted, such a vamp woman, firstly, katerina came in a certain way... like this it seemed to me, but this is a purely male position; will catherine find a place in her heart for a living man? i haven’t just grown up there now a man’s shoulder, and if he doesn’t have the financial means, well, it doesn’t meet my needs, men are becoming much weaker
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. this is beyond the bounds. thirty-year-old ekaterina kostaleva from samara looks death straight in the face every day. she is a thanatopractor. makes up and prepares the bodies of the deceased for farewell ceremonies. in general, before a funeral, a person needs to be prepared, washed, put on a new one. embalm, if necessary, we are also engaged in restoration, like the body of an individual, but this is when we have a life accident, injury and maybe a fall from a height, to connect our lives with the world of the dead, says ekaterina, she dreamed of it since childhood, but now for doing what she loves, she has to pay with a woman’s happiness. evgey, why don’t men try to quit? relationship with ekaterina and do not support her profession, men have become much weaker lately than women, now
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there are many more women on the planet than men, women are forced to take on masculine functions, here in front of us sits catherine the amazon in armor, this is what carl rogers, the founder of humanistic psychology, called women of your type, fragile, beautiful, graceful, present yourself amazingly, carry yourself superbly, educated, intelligent, well-mannered. .. a tactful, attentive woman, and with all that, she will break this world if someone tells her that she is not capable of doing this, and men are stopped by their fears, their inability to meet your level material request, first of all, the level of your culture and your spirituality, you are an unusual woman, this is what makes you special , she has chosen this path for herself, she is a person of the path, she follows this path and no one has the right to condemn her, she has her own own direction, vector - this is something that, unfortunately, is not present in many men now, you know? the man unconsciously feels his under-masculinity in comparison with this woman, it’s just that a male partner should be nearby, but they are not, you know,
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a partner, and not someone there who will be to suppress, of course, it is the strength that scares away, this one, that is, she is strong as a person, and of course, and it is very difficult for men to be stronger next to her, or at least on an equal footing, but a man always wants to be stronger. ekaterina, do you feel lonely? of course, it's kind of sad. for example, on new year’s, i immediately want some kind of family comfort there and a person nearby, well, a family holiday, and somehow it becomes sad, i would like a man’s shoulder, but now i have grown up not just a man’s shoulder there, which as if he were on the same wavelength with me, and if he doesn’t have financial resources, for example, well , he doesn’t meet my requests, then help with force, with your hands, with physical labor, with your ex -husband, you maintain some kind of connection, not at all i support. no, if i break up, it means i break up all in one day, i interrupt everything, with the child, it’s not about the child either, they call each other, if he
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comes to his mother-in-law, they meet there, but without me, your ex-mother-in-law came today to support you, in studio natalia kostaleva, hello, natalya , hello, natalya, do you continue to communicate with ekaterina even after their divorce? well, we have a grandson, whom i love very much, that’s why we communicate with her, and my son, he has his own family, he doesn’t like her profession, but ekaterina suited you as a daughter-in-law, i liked her because she was straightforward, so business, but then , when they got married, they lived for three years , everything was fine, then my son says to me, mom, you say, can you imagine, he says, what did she come up with, i say, what, coffins says, to do in the garage, well, on the basis of this ... scandals somehow happened, scandals began to occur, he didn’t like this business, but i think this also contributed a lot to their divorce, but how
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do you feel about the profession now? at first i didn’t accept it, it wasn’t wild to look at her, she wore black all the time, black hair, black jacket, black skirt, but now in black you can already see her profession, but you’ve now come to terms with it. yes, of course, i have come to terms with this profession, this profession is necessary, but aren’t you worried about your grandson that his mother has such profession, no, why, i’ve already taken it from her, everything’s fine , profession, grandson also takes it all calmly, that is, you’re not afraid for your grandson, no, i’m not afraid, no, he’s quite serious, your friends, they don’t whisper about your ex-fiancee’s hobby, of course, they whisper, sometimes they even call me, i say, i opened the internet, it was there for work, i needed to see that instead of this, advertisements pop up with photos of her, where she lies in a coffin , lies in a coffin, ekaterina, why did you do this,
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i didn’t get my first profession just like that, i’m probably good. in general, well, in general, it’s a marketing ploy. oh, oh, katya, katya, you weren’t afraid to lie down in the rake, it was scary, it was winter, and i was in a dress, i was cold, i was barefoot, and when i lay down in this coffin, i felt so hot, my legs were burning, my arms were burning, but probably because of the adrenaline i was still scared, but then i worked through this moment with myself and the fears went away, galina, how can you do this, you know, now there is one psychologist, the other psychologist, and everyone said, yes, that, unfortunately, this topic is not raised, because we have a huge number of prejudices, yes, that are associated with it, and the fact that such an attitude towards her now is not not against her, it’s this attitude to this topic, it’s our prejudices that speak for us, you know, they’re running across us - the locomotives are running away from us, sergey, you don’t feel creepy from this photo, how do you like this image, it looks very beautiful, firstly, here, right
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now even more interesting, it even looks very sexy, anastasia, would you dare to do such a photo shoot? i really creatively, i really like ideas and implementation, but i myself wouldn’t risk doing it precisely because of these, some subconscious fears still sit, what’s yalina? when my friends found out, they cut off the phone to me and said how crazy she is, you will die tomorrow, you will have cancer, and the third tenth, and i was sitting at home and i think, my mother, i’m sorry, didn’t lie in a coffin, didn’t smoke, i didn’t drink, but i have... liver cancer. ekaterina, why did you take this photo? this photo, this is already being done, these photos are for calendar i make a calendar every year for funeral companies. natalya, how do you feel about such photographs of your daughter-in-law, honestly, negatively, negatively, why? i don’t like the idea that she will bring disaster upon her family. ekaterina, what
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’s happening in this, oh, in this photo, my god, my god. here you can clearly see that i am doing post-mortem makeup and see with your own eyes what it looks like before and after. alena, is it beautiful or creepy for you? for me it’s beautiful, firstly, a good marketing move, which is really shows the difference, and for loved ones who come to say goodbye to a loved one, there is no need for his appearance to cause some kind of horror, fear? there should be some kind of quiet grief, yes, the deceased should give the impression of a person asleep, but this one, well, the left side of the face is more likely to cause horror, why such emotions, when saying goodbye, ekaterina, and what comments do people leave under your photos , after the first photo, the very first one, it first spread
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all over the internet, i woke up famous after this photo, in terms of very bad comments, at first i was somehow upset, and then i realized that if these comments didn’t exist, then i wouldn’t be known, people seem to know me, but honestly, even those who wrote bad comments, once he had to contact me and he even wrote me a good review, well, there was such a case, let 's listen to what people write to you, i really want to ask ekaterina, if you understand that this work is your calling, you i really want to help the relatives of the deceased, why don’t you you work in a government agency and do not do your job for a standard salary. essentially, you are making money off of someone else's misfortune. during such a period, many people do not think well and are ready to do anything for the deceased. they think that it will be better and easier for him this way. funerals were, are and will be the most profitable business. there are many beautiful words, but the essence is the same: without money you
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will not do any of this. it's all about the money. rytualka is the most profitable business after oil and gas, and the most important thing is that they make this money on your grief and helplessness at this moment. the prices are simply astronomical and unreasonable. i like to do this, this mental disorder comes from childhood. and about how you rip off money, unreasonably high prices, and speculate on death, we don’t need to thank you. and the court is a prison. this is tough, a person with a normal psyche will not be able to work there. how. nightmare, i wouldn’t agree to work there for any money, in my opinion the girl just loves money, such services are very expensive, when you work in such a place for a long time, you become saturated with the corresponding smell, it should be a shame, the fact that you take money from this mountain, this cannot be the norm, some strange interest from childhood, money yes money, but not love for the deceased, only thoughts on how to make the deceased
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beautiful, anastasia , well, would you be pleased to read this? of course not, but as a child of social networks, i understand the provocations, but in all this i see not only business and not so much business, but rather the fact that ekaterina enjoys attention to her own. to his business, specifically to herself, which is why she answers our questions with such pleasure, enters into controversy, all these comments, this is in any case attention to oneself, because these photographs, no, a photograph in the water with a coffin, this is not about coffins and not about money, for the most part it is about sexuality, about: look , what i am, by the way, can scare off men very much, in my opinion, because from the outside, of course. we all love to look cool, great, but when your woman exhibits such photographs, and also, as it were, a double one,
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it turns out to be a theme, both a naked body and a theme death and coffins, not every man can bear this, and you can talk as much as you like about the disadvantaged, about low self-esteem and about everything else, this is really unacceptable for many, the girl said correctly, that attention to yourself, but if attention is on me, then for my work, you know, well, that is , for mine. business, vadim, tanato practice, this is a very profitable business, well, everything here is really conditional, and even there, well, it’s not very much to say, that is, well, different specialists in their field, well, they can earn different funds there from a segment of the public there from the number of clients, and something there says that this is some kind of super profitable business, yes, it’s very difficult, yes, this business there will most likely be constant, the only thing is yes because everything is like that or else we will turn either to ekaterina, there either to me or to our colleagues, well, that’s how much, for example, in moscow, on average, somewhere from 10 to 30,000 rubles costs in moscow. ekaterina, you earn good money, a larger amount than
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you announced, it’s with tanat practice that it’s a top practitioner, of course, i can’t to say that a lot of money is earned there in thanato practice, well, from 10 to 30,000 per body, that’s decent, well, how much do your services cost? well, for example, posthumous makeup starts from 4,000 rubles. it costs 4,000 rubles to wash and dress, plus makeup - 800 rubles. how catherine’s loved ones react to her passion for morgues, coffins and cosmetics with formaldehyde. i even spent the night in cemeteries; i saw in all this a protracted child’s game. this is beyond the bounds, don't switch. naturalness, perfect taste of natural compositions greenfield. greenfield finding harmony. it happened, friends, it happened. new season
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the machine consumes only 10 v less than a conventional incandescent lamp. call and order a mini-automatic folding washing machine with an incredible discount, for only 2,999 rubles. call or order on our website leamax.ru. beyond. this is beyond the bounds. her the coffins of the dead are not afraid. thirty-year-old ekaterina kostaleva from samara considers her calling to be dignified and beautiful. people on their last journey, she puts on makeup and restores the bodies of the deceased. i like the fact that i am in my place, i will carry out this mission for the rest of my life, probably, and see people off on their last journey. her husband, ekaterina, did not share her passion for the world of the dead, said the woman’s former mother-in-law, 57-year-old natalya kostaleva. they decided to get a divorce because it was obvious
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to listen. these are permanent ones, come on let's get into the coffin business and something like that, he just turned around and went to his friends, he probably found it much more interesting there than listening to her about her coffins, ekaterina, and from the other side, who supports you in your hobby, my grandmother and my child, my grandmother easily talks about the topic of your work, yes, she is interested in everything, my grandmother easily, easily questions me, but she is the one who supports me, well then, go ahead. we will invite your grandmother to our studio lydia bebenina, lydia, lydia, for your granddaughter you are a reliable friend and assistant, of course, necessarily, did you take care of your granddaughter as a child? yes, i took care of her as a child, i took her to a sports school, she grew up as a very inquisitive child
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, she was so energetic, her mother told her... that she loved animals, she loved watching and treating animals, her mother brought test tubes for her, her mother worked for her a doctor, a nurse, well, in the laboratory there were test tubes, so she did all sorts of different tests, and when your granddaughter started painting the dead, how did they react to it? i was wary at first, of course, i thought how could it be, i worked in the police, then she left from the police. and along this path, what did the granddaughters say? i said, katya, you can do it, well, katya’s character, character, yes, yes, well, she says, i can, well, she likes it, and i support her in all matters, and you visit your granddaughter often, yes, of course,
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at home, the granddaughter is the most ordinary woman, of course, yes, she cooks the same way, cleans the same way, looks after the child the same way, well, then let’s see how everyday life goes. thirty-three-year-old ekaterina kostaleva proudly shows off the luxurious renovations in her two-room samara apartment. the walls are painted in deep colors, white furniture and carved doors stand out against their background. large icons painted to order hang in almost every room. an artist painted it here , well, maybe so to speak, it’s a painting, as it were, but the priest has already illuminated it, probably, it’s already considered an icon, because well, this is my patron, this. in the master's bedroom there are images of an angel holding the keys to hell and heaven on the entire ceiling. here, above the bed, hangs a carnival mask, which catherine received as a gift from the morgue. she used to hang in the morgue, this the forensic expert gave it to me, i brought it
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home, they also tell me: oh, with such energy, go home with such energy, well, with what energy, i don’t believe in it. the bedroom is furnished with a collection of angels, which catherine began to collect since she mastered the new one. profession, among them on the bookcase, with its legs dangling, sits a bizarre figure with an eerie face, guarding a lacquered coffin, this is katrina, she is the patroness of the day of death, this was made especially for me to order, i also have this charming coffin here, but in fact it not a coffin, it's a casket or, well probably some kind of case for wine, i like to put a bottle of wine on the table for about a birthday. the second room is reserved for the nursery. at first glance, there is nothing unusual here. computer, bed, desk and toys. but upon closer examination, you can notice small skeletons hanging on the window and children's wall, books with specific
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content on the shelf. i have books here, but they are all mostly about death, about medicine, about forensic medicine, about tonatopractic. in general, we only have books like this at home, kirill, he’s not afraid of my work, he knows my job, he’s on vacation with us in the summer, he likes to upholster coffins, cradle, he works for me, now my son is rarely at home, lives in a cadet school, ekaterina herself disappears all day at work and only has time to sleep in her home , for example, there is no time at all for cooking, even though the hostess loves it very much. i can get up at 4:00 in the morning, leave and arrive at 6 in the evening, but i’m on my feet all the time , often we order food where we don’t have the strength to cook, or we go somewhere to eat, well, to a restaurant, somewhere, it seemed to me , what
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catherine carries this only externally, this shocking and imagery of hers, but it is also present in her home, and i don’t quite understand the symbolism for myself personally in my home of all this, but if... it’s so comfortable, why not, here i am i’m absolutely tolerant of this, absolutely, if it’s convenient for her, let her do it as it’s convenient for her, well, she has the right to do so. sergey, from a male point of view, how to bring a future chosen one to such an apartment, but if we are talking about the man living in this particular apartment, then i hope, since he doesn’t have to live in a single room in the midst of this particular surroundings, i saw in all this a protracted child’s game, since she herself told me that even in childhood she developed an interest in mysticism, in horror films, in everything this surroundings, that’s why she has such an external appearance that matches, in the house she is in her own room , in her bedroom, she arranged everything like this, no , well, in the child’s room we also see
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a similar surroundings, by the way, ekaterina, and you are not afraid for your son’s psyche, i’m not afraid, he was present at the funeral, was present at my work, which i of course expected... a bunch of questions and some emotions on his face, but when he approached, he had no emotions. evgeny, what do you think, ekaterina’s work can affect her son’s psyche? i am convinced that yes, the fact is that a little boy who, well, this is no longer a little boy , we are talking about a teenager, in fact, 11 years old is the entrance to the so-called puberty, and this is a period of such hypersensitivity, that is, increased susceptibility besides, i think it's a very sensitive topic, look, today we saw the reaction of adults... they were horrified by some photos, horrified, but what can we say about the psyche of a child, who is even more susceptible to the maximum? of course, this can find its reflection, the question is what kind of reflection it will be, but what is obvious in... it somehow impresses him, then it will find its response in his life, absolutely for sure. ekaterina, your son doesn’t tell you that he dreams of
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following in your footsteps. in fact, my child was very spoiled, but not reads any books, everything else and sent him to the cadet corps now, and you know, he liked it so much, he is so happy, i have never seen my happy child in my life, that’s it, in general, what gifts i never gave them, he never i wasn’t as happy as i was in the cadet corps, and you know, now he’s a little worried about us. he’s at home, and he says: mom, just recently, and you don’t want to take me to work, i say why, but show me the duties of a director, so he says, maybe i’ll be there later too work, ekaterina, and now one of your relatives is working with you, yes , dear brother, i offered him, i say, when you come back from the army, let’s move to samara with me, he wanted to work with shoulder straps, i say, it doesn’t matter, by the time you get a job there, well, time will pass, he needs to live somewhere, and i say, can you work part-time for me? and he had no problems when he worked for his sister, he even had to spend the night in the cemetery in the studio
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catherine’s brother, dmitry bebenin, hello, dmitry, hello, you have you always known about your sister's love for the mortuary and funeral work? no, not always, i found out when i was about 15 years old, she then told my parents about making a production facility instead of a garage. and how did you feel about it? i was always in favor, that is, a little later your sister’s offer of cooperation did not frighten you at all? it didn’t scare me, it was just unpleasant, and i went to work, as if i had gotten used to everything. what did you have to do? dug graves, washed the dead, dressed them, performed ceremonies, painted them, landscaped the graves, sometimes even spent the night on cemeteries, we had an order, we had to dig a grave, we...' or a grave, we received a second order, and so for the whole day we, well, roughly speaking, lived in the cemetery,
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such work turned out to be comfortable for you, graves digging is more comfortable than working with the deceased, washing and dressing them, the first time i watched how it was done, learned, the second time i kind of helped a little, supported there, helped in some way, and the third time i was already thinking why , i can do it myself, and i started doing everything myself and quickly learned everything, and what are you doing? now landscaping graves, because now, well, how can i say, people don’t always have time in other cities and, that is, such a service is in demand. how much do you earn? well, about 30-40 thousand. are you grateful to your sister for your help? certainly. ekaterina, besides your brother, did you manage to captivate anyone else? of course, i have students. your student, ekaterina, dreams of becoming as successful as you in the studio, ekaterina morkovkina. hello, ekaterina, hello, why did you decide
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to become a specialist in the funeral industry? oh, this is actually my old dream, to tie my life with medicine, but i graduated from law school, well, then i had to get married at the age of 19, so i gave birth to two children, mine are the same age, and it takes a long time to study in this profession, and in 2018, grief happens in my family, i lost... a nine-year-old son, he was 9 years old, i don’t know why, but all this motivated me, i think, anyway, i should connect my life with medicine, we are very sorry for you, tell me what happened to your child, my son died from he had appendicitis and he died from a rotational error, that’s why you found an outlet in the person of ekaterina, yes, i phoned katya.
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we met, what did you learn from ekaterina, ekaterina, this is generally powerful, thank you, i thought that everything would be painted like that, she immediately took me to the morgue and said, well, let’s, how to suture, how to sew up, how to wash, how to dress , how to put on makeup, everything, she showed me, i was shocked, but very cool, i am generally grateful to katya for this, and you already had a lot of clients, grannies come to me and say that you have trained for this profession, i now calmly i can die, they are already ordering something, how you should paint them, yes, they have already warned their relatives, even so, how can catherine find the man of her dreams, she has a request to have a strong man nearby, but how can she let him come to you, don’t go to this afterlife, we’ll continue after the advertisement, 20 children grew up in a family of guardians, and then... only one girl from childhood knew nothing about her blood relatives, i asked, mom, do you even
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farmalin. thirty-three-year-old ekaterina kostaleva from samara says: since childhood she dreamed of working in a morgue, now she dresses, makes up and restores the bodies of the deceased on their final journey. i once went on a date, and the guy didn’t know that i still work with bodies and he... was shocked, inspired by the activities of a woman and thirty-four-year-old ekaterina morkovkina, she calls herself student of ekaterina kostaleva. in 2018, grief happened in my family, my nine-year-old son died, i don’t know why, after that i wanted to go into this field, i don’t even know why there is any help for people in this difficult situation, ekaterina , are you married? yes. i’m married, but aren’t you afraid that your husband won’t be able to stand such activities of yours?
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he told me: no, katya, don’t go to this afterlife, i’m against it, but i’ll go to the end, and if musha leaves, no, he won’t, and there’s someone else who doesn’t like your hobby, my sister is against it, you are absolutely right, ekaterina, she doesn’t understand how it was possible to change the profession of a lawyer to work with the dead, in olga’s studio. ronola, hello, why didn’t you approve of your sister’s choice? i think this is very terrible, this is abnormal, that is, it turns out that she paints dead people, and then with this energy she comes home, with a child, a husband, all the bad energy of deceased people is carried home, this is impossible, this cannot be allowed, have you tried to dissuade your sister? i tried, of course, if she finished legally. also there, like she will help people after all, yes, still legally, but here it turns out that she is doing something to her disadvantage, your husband may not tell you anything, but in any case it seems to have
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a very bad influence, but my sister is like me i think she doesn’t listen to you, no, she doesn’t listen to her own, that’s when she had a grief that i will never forget, it passed through us like a scar, a very sore subject, and i really tried to dissuade the fact that you really have a child, you ... husband saying leave it in the past, that's us survived, we still have to go there again, that’s what it’s like to carry energy, it’s very painful, it’s kind of unpleasant, galina, today we heard more than once that many people, and especially men, are put off by this type of activity, as you think , catherine still has a chance to meet the man of her dreams, of course, it will be very difficult for her to meet her own man. because on the one hand , of course, she is a very strong woman, not every man can compete with her, on the other
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hand, she has weakness, she has tenderness, she has a request for a strong man to be nearby, but how much she can let him get close to her is difficult to say, men want lightness, they want emotions, family is about life, and you could help catherine establish her personal . you can work with this, it’s not that she’s some kind of hopeless, i have a marriage agency, we do this specifically, we introduce people to start a family. ekaterina, will you accept galina’s help? yes, of course, i will gladly accept galina’s help. we'll look at the candidate, put on makeup, if necessary, don't, that's good, we need to look for such a candidate. i would have worked on it myself, to be honest, she aroused my sympathy. i wish i had techniques, tools that allow a woman to go and build these happy, as we call them, harmonious relationships with a man, well, if evgeniy helps me, and
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work through mine with pleasure, of course , remember that with any problem you you can always turn to our program for help, we will continue tomorrow, right now a new dna test. tomorrow on the air abroad, a mother of many children went to unwind in a restaurant with sister and never returned home; they found her dead, under stones in a black bag. there were no clothes, no telephone, nothing, could it be that three children were left without material by the one who volunteered to let the woman down, tomorrow at 16:50 on ntv. my brother decided to give his younger sister, her biological relatives, whom she had always dreamed of, as an anniversary gift.
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yuri came to us for a dna test. i don’t know, hello, yuri, hello, you decided to give biological relatives to your sister, i understand correctly, yes, and you are sure that she will be happy with such a gift, well, yes, she always dreamed about this, talked about it a lot, so i decided to contact you so that it’s her anniversary. would you like to give her such a gift, how old is your sister? she will turn 45 years old, do you and your sister have a warm relationship? well, yes, of course, we have a big, friendly family, well, we actually have three siblings, there were 20 more adopted children in our family, that is, 23 children, it turns out that your mom and dad are foster parents with many children? well, not exactly,
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we had a family orphanage, that’s what it was the first family orphanage in the altai territory, then there were four more like that, well, it wasn’t like adopted children, that is , they took care of children, well, it turns out that no one was adopted, but you are children, natural children , were not against the fact that the parents wanted to become guardians, no, well, at the time when this decision was made, i was and at the time when i came from the army there were already five in the family, besides yulia there were four more kids, two girls and two boys, tell us in more detail, after all, 20 children foster children, three of their own, how they fit in one house, well, at first glance it seems scary, but in fact it’s normal. and your parents managed to become real, loving for all children, at least for a
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while. that yes, because, well, the children grew up, received passports, and almost everyone who lived with us took our last name, well, i think if they felt bad or uncomfortable, they would not have done it. 20 children are under the care of your parents, and why did you decide to help with the search for only yulia? well, many children knew their parents, many categorically do not want to know their parents. that is, resentment develops in children, even though they seem to be small, because ours were very small, almost infants, and yulia, she just wanted to know, what do you know, yuri, about yulia’s biological family? i know the last name, the name is loshkova vera, this is loshkova vera - who is this? this is yulia’s mother and presumably she has brothers or sisters, how many? i don’t know this, but you
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