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the cost of the apartment and even a little higher, we bought it with a mortgage , we worked, rented, saved, we had four jobs at the same time, even there, at night, at day, at night, part-time work, because we had to rent a house and whatnot -to put it off, and we saved for about 4 years so that we could have this down payment in our hands, he was how long? 520, no, no, no, our money was somewhere around 350 , and then our parents also helped, we looked at how much the bank approved for us, looked at the options that were on the market, for about four months, we were probably looking apartment, but when we found this apartment, you were completely satisfied with everything in it, it turns out that my wife and mother looked at this apartment, that is, i was at work at that moment, they just sent me photos, showed me a video, walked around the apartment, i i kind of looked at it, i really liked it, that is good quality renovation, with interchanges, with transport, it was very convenient there, there is a hospital, a school nearby, that is, for us as a future...
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let's say, the owner of children, this was very important, from this position we liked the apartment very much, all the statements , the requests that were required to formalize, in fact, all these documents, and in order to understand that the apartment was really clean, we did, in addition to this, we also, well, of course, the bank also checked, this is his collateral property, that is, this is for him also very important, from the side of the real estate agency , from the side of the seller, they also provided us with documents, there was also... on the side of the seller, that is, on the side of the seller there was a real estate agency, which acted as a guarantor of security. oleg, do banks carefully check mortgage apartments before making a transaction? the bank does not request the archival history of the transfer of rights with documents, it requests a narrowed list of documents that are necessary in order to approve it, and then the bank’s security service and lawyers must carry out their work, again, another important point: the apartment was
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mortgaged by this bank, it seemed that since it was mortgaged, the bank seemed to have already checked it, that is , there could not be some kind of setup here. vyacheslav, how did events develop after you purchased your long-awaited home? we lived together for about two years, and i was just sitting at home, and a bell rang at my door, i asked who looked at the little eye, they told me, as a matter of fact, the operatist authorized by such and such a department asked i have a question: who are you anyway, on what basis are you here? i replied that i am the owner of this apartment, i bought this apartment on absolutely legal grounds, after that he explained that this way and that in this apartment a murder was committed, a murder, at that moment i didn’t understand at first, that is, i thought i was they are playing, but no, a man who is now being treated in a mental hospital, and this apartment previously belonged to him in 1/2 along with his mother, he killed his mother in this apartment, on the basis of this they decided
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to check who was there, in principle, in this apartment, because this was his last place of registration, naturally , i just stuck it in the wall for about five minutes, i didn’t understand at all what was happening, i called the police department to confirm... that this is really a police officer, that this is not some kind of disguised person who just like this, i don’t know, decided to intimidate me, but a month and a half passed, it turns out that sole and i received a claim by registered letter, so to appear in court as defendants, just from this citizen, who is in the hospital for treatment, that this apartment turns out to belong to him and was taken from him illegally and that these are all the transactions that... .after this, we, as the fourth owners, were committed, including recognizing our transaction as invalid, removing the encumbrance from the apartment, so that he could use it, and the debt, in fact, leave everything else to us. and only you or the previous ones were the defendants
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owners too? it turns out that we are like a follow-up, then in front of us there was a woman who sold to us, before her there was a woman, and there was also a person who was directly related to this mentally ill person. allegedly bought this apartment from his mother, that is, he bought an apartment from a man who at that time could not sell it in any way because he was in a psychiatric hospital, from his mother, who at that time had already been dead for eight years at the hands of his son, that is, such a sale was completed, and how is it of course happened, and when was the first transaction, in what year, in the twentieth, in the twentieth, and when did you buy the apartment? in the twenty-first, and in the eleventh, maria, how could this murder be bought, when it was committed, into the apartment of a deceased person, some fraudulent actions were probably committed here, or it was possible to forge an agreement, or according to some fictitious power of attorney,
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to complete a transaction issued earlier during the life of the mother, or, let’s say, before the son’s imprisonment in a mental institution, but at the same time... the death of the mother is automatic the power of attorney is still nullified, so there are definitely no legal ways. why weren’t you confused by the fact that from the twentieth to the twenty-first year, there was a transfer of rights, well, you might not have known that there were four of them, i admit, you do not have legal literacy for this, they didn’t tell you, and how long the previous owner owned the apartment , six months, she bought an apartment, made repairs, but then she felt, well, it was kind of inconvenient to travel to her place of work, so she justified it at that moment, he says: well, i bought it cheaper, i’m selling more expensive, as if the usual story, one more question, what amount is indicated in the purchase and sale agreement, by the way, an important point, i asked this question at the preliminary transaction, the seller tells us that the obligatory conditions of the sale will be the conclusion of a separate
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agreement on inseparable improvements, i kind of asked the question, what exactly is the problem, we pay you 3.5 million rubles, that is, the bank pays you 3.5 million rubles, why can’t this amount be indicated? she said that she needed it, for what purposes, what the amount you have is indicated in the purchase and sale agreement, 900 basically, there is the balance you have under the agreement or simply according to the receipt for the agreement, not separable, what kind of agreement is this for inseparable improvements, when the seller does not want to pay sales tax, the purchase and sale agreement indicates an amount equal to the amount for which this apartment was purchased; roughly speaking, you bought a renovation. this money, wallpaper, sockets, everything, well, yes, yes, they explained to us that these were both sockets, that is, she had to pay tax because it was an apartment she took possession of only six months, and not 5 years, yes, not five or not three, depending on whether she has any other housing there, if she has housing, then it is 5 years, if this is
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the only housing, then 3 year, the seller in this case evaded the tax in order not to pay the tax, in this case you entered into some kind of conspiracy to defraud the state, and you became this party as if knowing about it, these risks were not explained to you? my eye twitches from this story because of nerves , honestly, you acquired it with such difficulty, saved it with such difficulty, but why didn’t it occur to you to go to a professional lawyer, to one, to the second, to the fifth, to the tenth, you’re not buying a suit, not shoes, an apartment, we went to lawyers and from the agency there was a lawyer who constantly accompanied us , who assured that everything was fine, i made sure that i went to the eldest of the house , talked to her, what and how, are there cockroaches, what kind of house is there, is everything fine, i say, with the apartment, how are things going, he says, yes, everything is generally
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great, guys, come in, everything is fine, vyacheslav, olga, when everything started spinning history, the investigators told you the details of this murder, he didn’t give you what exactly happened, but then, when we already turned to a lawyer who was supposed to protect our rights, we were given access to the materials of the criminal case, where, in fact, all these points were in detail described, that is, actually. this man, who is, is still in the hospital, in the eleventh year he met a certain girl, a woman, i don’t know how to put it correctly, and he suddenly suddenly wanted her to start living with him, a problem arose in the person of his mother, who was categorically against this, he decided to simply drown his mother, and drown him in a bathtub, in boiling water, as cruelly as possible, boiling water, in boiling water, yes, after the murder was committed, people naturally appeared there.. . the law enforcement agencies, who recorded all these moments, took him to the police station, well, there to formalize everything else, but the most interesting
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point is that for some reason they categorized him, that he seemed to be in a state of some kind of passion there or something something like this, so no they began to sort of initiate criminal proceedings against him, but they simply sent him home on his own recognizance, and after that he was declared insane, this line is not there anywhere, i also looked for where he was declared insane, that is, he... roughly speaking, his illness worsened, and he, in this altered state, committed this act, after which he was taken away, then they apparently performed some kind of procedure on him or something else, he seemed to be fine, he was sent away under a subscription not to leave, but through for six months, in fact, he was taken for compulsory treatment, you were scared, but it’s not that i was even scared, i was just scared when you found out about the murder, i was just scared to be even at home alone, i was scared to go and wash myself. i was just waiting for glory from work, so that i could just
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go in and wash my face, my friends came to see me, i just had such a shock for several weeks that i, well , i couldn’t even get time off from work, sometimes i asked for time off early, so that together with salt, how would i i couldn’t even get out of bed, it’s just because of all this, you think about how i feel so sorry for this unfortunate woman, murder is scary, and you just and what are you in this situation? it’s just nightmarish, incomprehensible, not at all unreal, it’s crazy for me to hear all this too, and the owner from whom you bought the apartment, didn’t she know that there was a murder in this apartment, when she sold this apartment, she didn’t care he didn’t tell us that, we were provided with documents, extracts from housing and communal services there, from everything else that was there the capital repair fund has no debts, there are no debts for utility bills, no one is registered in the apartment, that the apartment is completely empty.
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clean, there is simply the rosreestr, where all the information about the transfer of ownership of the apartment, when collecting documents, you were obliged, this is a standard procedure, to contact the rosreestr to receive an extract, from the rosreestr, to the rosreestr, only there is one small clarification, at that time we we couldn’t get a full extract from rosreest; we only received an extract for the actual current one. no no no no, no, unfortunately, i’ll correct it a little, in the twentieth year we had changes this year only in march, when you can’t get a jäger statement for any apartment, there is a statement about the main characteristics, which shows who the owner is, the square footage, that’s strictly speaking, according to the history of the transfer of rights from the rosreestr, which is what they say, that you could order this extract to see that in a year, even in six months, there were three transactions, the question here is what the agency that was doing something needed, you should have been given this information, well, they they hid this information from us, they didn’t tell us, the agencies are from the seller’s side, and
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in fact, the important point is that this realtor, who helped buy this apartment, this realtor helped sell it, it can’t be said here right away that she was guilty, she knew everything, she could also know nothing, you just bought her, you turned out to be the last link in this complex chain of a standard deception scheme, my opinion is that some kind of... confidence from some kind of incomprehensible notary in the name there, or this there was some kind of gift agreement, that this share was given to the son, the son acts, and there was a simple written form, and then it was simply resold, that is, you had to call this notary to check with the notary, here, if, well, this notary really existed, he would say it was a fake, he didn’t do that. vladimir, is there a certain number of transactions after which it is no longer possible to challenge the purchase and sale agreement? no, that’s not the case now. there is no law, so to speak, the owner has the right to sell his property even in the second minute after
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of this, as i acquired it, i would say here that people came from us and want to hear some direction on what they should do in this situation, i would strongly advise them to start with the criminal case that began, because if it is established that he was sane at the time of the crime, but became ill , which excludes... his legal capacity is insane, then you have a serious chance to challenge that civil claim, you know, because firstly, he was not then could enter into inheritance. in relation to his mother, if he was sane, the second point, let’s say, if he was insane, you have a chance to challenge the power of attorney that he gave to someone to file a lawsuit against you, that is , he will not be a proper plaintiff, he is an insane person, this is where you need to look very carefully, then you will have a chance
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to save either money or an apartment. olga, that's right. that you are now suing the very same owner who is in the hospital, right? that's right, yes, that's right, at what stage is the process now? on at the moment, there is a civil claim on his part, it was completely, well, almost completely satisfied, that is, we now, well, that is , we lost the court, we lost the district court, that is, that you were evicted, or what? they wanted to evict us, but while the appeal is underway, which we have drawn up, until the writ of execution comes, we still have time to, relatively speaking, collect our things there, there are some other points, the court ruled, that, strictly speaking, the apartment needs to be taken out of the bank's collateral, right to restore the property of this comrade, due to the fact that he was in this apartment for six months under a written undertaking not to leave the place, they considered this the basis for recognizing him as having actually accepted the inheritance, they can simply evict us and you
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must continue to pay the mortgage, we will continue you have to pay a mortgage for 18 years, you know, it’s terrible, but your payment is large, it’s purely a mortgage, we have 26 and a kopecks thousand, in addition to this we also have other loans, we have a loan for furniture for everything else plus utility bills, that is every month we paid about 40,000 for all this together, for more than a year i just can’t afford to buy damn things there, i don’t know new shoes, buy something else, because all our money goes to legal, these various consultations and to a mortgage , we didn’t stop it, it will be extremely difficult for you to even rent a room now, we are with glory. we were going to live in this apartment and we walked into it and it was empty. naturally we needed to furnish something, we thought and decided that we would take out loans and live there for 5 years, so what? we would have to squeeze in, but we will live in normal conditions, but now it turns out that everything , well, that is, we don’t even have the basic money to actually go there and rent a room or
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manage it somehow, because the bank obliges us to pay this mortgage, ol and is it really possible in this case that people about of course, they are obliged to pay it, because the loan agreement has not ended, tell me, did you have an offer from the bank to pay for an additional legal check service, such an offer was received, but so, but since the apartment has just been came out of the mortgage, bank he was guided only by the documents that were necessary, he requested and you provided them, the bank approved it at the level of what he saw here from the open ones. well, you see, it’s also incorrect to say that the bank had to pay for yuruservices in order for the bank to do it properly , but no, in no case, it’s a bad reality, it turns out that transactions are being made here, and why the hell am i then, in principle, he has something then i take it and give you money to buy an apartment,
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it’s very good to make money on this in order to minimize it. on real estate, the bank could request information about all these stages of the transaction, all four. vyacheslav, what do you want more now, return the money or keep the apartment? for us, money is much more important now, because after i found out what was happening with this apartment , i have no pleasure, and moreover, i want all these freaks who committed this action to be imprisoned, and do you think the person who committed the murder of his mother was involved in this scheme? i suspect everyone. immediately after the advertisement is the position of the second party's lawyer. my trustee, he is not incapacitated. he did not sell this apartment. and somehow it happened that they decided to release him when i moved into this apartment? that is, everything is very doubtful, very doubtful, we’ll be back in a few minutes. i heard from one old fesher that
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deminkov from irkutsk took out a mortgage for their dream apartment. and 2 years later they found out that a brutal crime had occurred there. the owner was boiled alive in the bathtub. the detective came to our house and said: that our apartment is a crime scene, in in which a man killed his mother, right in our bathroom, and now the dimenkovs are at risk of remaining on the street, after the death of the owner, her son was not sent to prison, but for compulsory treatment, now he wants to return to this apartment, he claims that the living space was sold illegally, after some time, we received a lawsuit that this person... who committed a crime is the owner of this apartment and is asking to evict us from this apartment,
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the lawyer of the first owner of your apartment believes that he has every right to it return to elizaveta sugak's studio. hello, elizaveta, hello, what can you say about your ward in general about the current situation? my client is being treated in a psychiatric clinic, my client’s attending physician, she came to the conclusion at some point that my client can continue treatment... not as an inpatient, but on an outpatient basis, that is, he can be discharged from the hospital, but discharged from hospitals are only allowed to a certain place of residence, when she opened his personal file, she saw that he he owns an apartment, and his attending physician, she decided to check whether the apartment really belongs to him, they ordered an extract and it turned out that the apartment does not belong to him, the request was made...
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on the basis of which the ownership was transferred, it turned out to be a purchase and sale agreement , in which their patient, my principal, and his mother, who died 9 years ago, acted as a participant as the seller of the apartment, he did not sell this apartment, well , as if his mother died, he got caught, and what are you saying, his mother died, why you do not are you saying he killed her? very cruel, by the way, why aren’t you talking about the seventeenth? so he should have been released, this is also what your doctor said at the trial, who is your witness, but somehow it turned out that they decided to release him when i moved into this apartment, how did he get kept in the seventeenth year, he could have left the institution, i everyone i suspect, in general, everyone, how the doctor received the documents in the twenty-second year, an extract from the unified state register, i understand, but how he received the purchase and sale agreement, this is the foundation document, my principal, he is not
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incompetent, so they received it through his application, that is, he received it, gave it to them, and in general, how did you enter into an agreement with this person, if the institution is closed, the workers of the medical institution, they came to the conclusion that they need to find a lawyer who would represent their interests patients in a court hearing, he wrote out a power of attorney, and i started working, how did they pay you off with your pension, please tell me, how was his free will recorded? i focus on issuing you a power of attorney, as recorded by the main a doctor, as the doctor explains, he can be aware of his actions, he can direct these actions, and he can make certain transactions. elizaveta, when you became your client’s principal and the documents for the apartment came into your hands, what did you learn? from the documents, i learned that the apartment in may 2020 was under a forged contract
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, as is now reliably known, that this was a forged contract, after 11 days it was resold, there was a purchase and sale agreement, after 3 months it was resold again, there was an agreement purchases and sales, and after a few months they also sold it there, resold it, and it was the demenkovs who were the last to establish that it was a forged contract, i contacted the police with a statement about the crime committed, a criminal case was opened on the fact of fraud, article 159, part the fourth is on an especially large scale, the preliminary investigation authorities carried out a handwriting examination, which showed that the signature on it was not mine, and why didn’t you check the notary, and why didn’t you submit using forged documents, so that they would recognize this form in its entirety and share it, that they would not be interested in where this
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document came from, you wanted to know the truth, and why did you treat it so superficially? i made a request, a good question, wonderful requests, was this contract not notarized? yes, it was not notarized and i supposedly, the notary says that he does not have this number, but no one recognized this document as fake, when the prosecutor announced the preliminary conclusion, she sat laughing in the same way, and my wife sat crying, i didn't i said this at the trial so as not to run into some judicial matters, but here, here ... no one will stop me, i will say everything that i think, everything that i feel, it’s very easy to sit and reason when you’re there’s no such debt hanging over you and you’re not kicked out of your apartment, elizaveta, you’re doing your job, but on the other hand , you don’t feel sorry for vyacheslav and olga, no, i’m actually sorry, because they had nothing to do with this chain of transactions intent to deceive someone, you know, from an everyday point of view, they victims, but nevertheless, when - you
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went to court and vyacheslav and olga became defendants, did you win this case? well, it’s too early to say that we won, because the decision has not entered into legal force, yes, it has been made. in favor of my client, he was recognized as a victim, because the property was not disposed of at the will of the owner, moreover, after the death of his mother, here i will say that the court found him unaware of the nature of his actions, unable to direct his actions, the court released him from criminal liability, there is a resolution to release my principal from criminal liability and the issue of placing him under compulsory treatment has been resolved, has your principal entered into the inheritance? yes, after the death of his mother, he continued to live in this apartment for another six months, and that is, he thus
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accepted her inheritance, her share, right? yes , at the time when he was taken to this clinic, you say that it was established that he actually accepted the inheritance, that is, as far as i understand, there are documents confirming that he paid utility bills. but this it must be, if you say, he should not only use the things , he should bear responsibility for the apartment, we heard from our last buyers that they received an extract from the house register, that it was deregistered, how did this procedure happen? i went to the court’s website, and from there came a decision to remove it from the registration register, who was the iztsum seller, the seller before that is , the matter was quite complicated, because the first two sellers were selling an apartment with an encumbrance with the person who, yes, was registered there, but to their seller, she was the buyer at that time, and she was provided with information that no one
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was registered in the apartment, that is, she was provided with a fictitious extract from the house register, a certificate was provided, again, this is from her words, in the documents of the russian registry this certificate is just there, i paid attention to it, that it really says that no one is registered in the apartment, but what about them in the seventeenth year, when he was forced out of when they said that everything was fine with him and great, why wasn’t he discharged then, why was he discharged exactly when i bought this apartment? elizaveta, your principal should have been discharged back in 2017, or what? he was being prepared for discharge, precisely in the twentieth, twenty-first, no, in the seventeenth year, this was in the testimony of your, in fact, the doctor whom you brought to court. vladimir, a man committed a crime, killed his mother. and he was not sent to prison, but he was sent to a psychiatric clinic, why was he sent exactly there for the crime he committed, and not behind bars, how long should he stay there? who decides when he
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can get out of there? i still need to decide, i haven’t heard an answer either from my colleague or from these young guys, the crime itself against this woman, it... was committed by a sane person or an insane person, this is of fundamental importance, because if he got sick in the future, they will not really judge anyone, but will wait until he recovers, and after that the court will consider whether he is guilty and not guilty, but if he was healthy at the time the crime was committed, then my respected colleague could only represent his... her client, as she would call him, but she could not represent the interests of the deceased woman, because they were challenging the deal for the sale of the apartment,
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and we had a sale of a share, as far as i understand, the deceased mother could not give a power of attorney and did not give it, there are many nuances here, that’s how the question was asked, that in the seventeenth year he had the right to leave, so to speak, from this medical institution, from there is an assumption to hold me over... we are talking about certain terms when he cannot be convicted, they initiate a criminal case for fraud against this man, but these young guys, they were not victims in the criminal case for fraud, and i let me draw your attention to the fact that their money was stolen, they bought the apartment in good faith and it was taken away from them, so at the very least these people, along with this sick man, should have been victims. very doubtful, so olga’s neighbor vyacheslava not only are they worried about the apartment of a young family, but about their own safety
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, our guest is yulia shulunova, hello, yulia, good evening, how long have you been living in your apartment, about 5 years, when i... was just planning to buy an apartment in this house, i had a friend who lived there, she told me back then 5 years ago that there was such a case, that there lived such a man, that he killed his mother, boiled her in hot water, that he beat her and threw her down the stairs, that the screams were constant they had these, she closed herself off from him, in bathroom, hiding, constantly, that she suffered a lot, she periodically took him to an institution for treatment, that too, but they all said it, as if the neighbors were yes, but he somehow harmed the neighbors, he flooded very often, and there was a case they said, that he left the tile on and was there nearby. it caught fire, this smoke came out, the firefighters arrived
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, but how do you and other neighbors feel about the fact that this person might return to this house again? of course we are afraid, we should live there, and when you first moved, the apartment became empty, some girl lived, lived a little, did some renovations and moved out, but what can you say about olga and vyacheslav? very good people, positive, they are kind, sympathetic, are you worried about their fate? well, of course i’m worried. we would like this all to be resolved calmly somehow. vyacheslav, do you have any real estate other than this apartment? no, i don’t have any real estate, my father just gave him a service apartment at one time, then he retired and decided to privatize this apartment, but i started the administration is suing, and it’s like, you won’t get this apartment, 3 years, my father is also without an apartment, now he and his mother have been paying the mortgage for a new home for a year, that is, this is some kind of family home, you will have nowhere, yes. yes, yes, your mother hopes that you can
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win all the trials and live in your own apartment, in the svetlana deminkova studio. hello, svetlana, hello, studio, can’t believe that this whole nightmare is happening to your children? our entire large, friendly family, in general, everyone is shocked by this situation, nothing predicted that there would be such horror when we first signed it. with such love, with such love, what to buy, what to put there, where to put it, hang curtains there, there, slava already had thoughts there, as the owner there, to do this , to make a balcony there, that is, they already had plans , i honestly don’t understand what they should do, no, of course we won’t abandon them, but we don’t have the opportunity to help them again, he blames his colleague for what happened, he’s a traitor, it’s not this man who should be persecuted, they
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are free. ambulance, new season, today at 20:00 on ntv. beyond. this is beyond the bounds, a married couple from irkutsk was told that in their dream apartment , right in the bathroom, a woman was brutally dealt with, an detective came to us right at home and said that our apartment was a crime scene in which a man killed his mother, right in our bathroom, son killed in they didn’t put him in prison, but sent him for compulsory treatment, a man has been in hospital... for more than 10 years, during which time, according to his lawyer elizaveta sugak, her client’s apartment was illegally sold, the first transaction, it was on may 20 , 1920, she was , concluded between my principal, his mother, who at
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the time of the transaction had been dead for 9 or 10 years, and the registry for... this transaction transfer of ownership from my principal to another person who was a party to the transaction to the buyers. vyacheslav and olga the diminkovs became the last link in this tangled chain. 2 years ago they bought this apartment with a 20-year mortgage, and now they want to evict them from there. the court made a decision and satisfied the claim of this comrade, that we need to be evicted from here, our property rights should be annulled. olga and vyacheslav are horrified, for 2 years they invested not only money, but their whole soul into this apartment , they furnished the hallway and kitchen from scratch on their own, they got a set from friends, a stove from their parents, only tables fit in the small bedroom
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bed, the family is still paying off the loan for them, the couple used to happily entertain friends in this living room, we are folding this sofa, there is sort of a kind of impromptu dining area, the demenkovs planned to remodel the balcony, but now they don’t see the point in it, because at any moment they can be kicked out of the house that has become a home, i would of course like to finish it someday, but now i don’t know if such an opportunity will arise, because most likely we won’t be living in this apartment anymore, we when we bought this apartment, we thought, well, now we’ll furnish it a little , we’ll do everything right, and we’ll have kids, i ’m already 30 years old, when i pay off this mortgage, i ’ll be 48, 48, well, when i do this, well, it’s just time and now i would be in this situation, right? i just don’t know who is to blame, how this happened, we are just
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asking our family for help, so that we don’t stay on the street, so that lawyers can help us, so that perhaps the investigative authorities will pay attention to this situation, that we just got out of this nightmare, i had nervous breakdowns, panic attacks when we were given a decree that we were being evicted, that we were staying on the street. i’m just me for 4 days, i couldn’t even get out of bed, this news simply trampled me, olechka, vyacheslav, i want to urge you to be patient and still defend your right to live in this apartment, you are so loving you show all this, you feel comfortable there, it’s so cool, and don’t cry, please, you need to be very strong now, a woman is the keeper of the hearth, and you will win, thank you, vyacheslav, do you intend to? continue to sue, with the first owner, including, yes, we also sent a statement regarding fraud and forgery of documents
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to the police, but we learned that for some reason our case, fraud on a particularly large scale, was transferred to the district police officer. slava, your colleague doesn’t understand why you are suing the first owner of the apartment, and not the scammers who deceived both him and you, in our studio, georgy petrosyan. hello, hello, georgy, do you think vyacheslav and olga are acting wrong? i am sure that it was all possible to resolve this all peacefully, especially since i talked a little with elizaveta , i see that she is ready to make contact and help you too, we should not persecute this man, they are defending themselves, what does persecution mean? i believe that i have the right to absolutely legal means, i was in court, i had a lawyer who defended my position, i don’t think so, there are just two victims, and this man, because he remains homeless, and you, so how did you fall victim to scammers, and where are you from?
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you know that this man is not in this scheme , how can you say this, who, who will confirm this, why should i feel sorry for him, why should i feel sorry for him, i fucking wash myself in this bathtub every day, i don’t feel sorry for him at all , i will drown him, i don’t consider him a human being, i’ll tell you more, the most terrible crime a person can commit is the murder of his own parent, and there is no... no such justification, you don’t need to tell me , do you think he’d be an adequate person killed my mother , i don’t count those people who were the scammers who stirred up this whole scheme, i want everyone to be punished, georgy, that’s what , how did you know that vyacheslav and olga have a problem with their apartment, how did you even know this? we work next to soslava, let’s say, in a different bar, i’m samily, i see that there’s something wrong with fame, he ’s kind of confused, he tells me this whole situation, that they want to deprive him of his apartment, he ’ll be left with a mortgage , he... will be left without a home, without housing on the street, and after all this he began to blame me for this too, he called
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me as a traitor, now i’ll explain why, before buying this apartment, since we were friends, he decided to ask me for advice, i said, go ahead, i have a lawyer friend who can check these documents, the lawyer checked everything, he said, well, there’s nothing to complain about, everything is fine, and after all of this, slava began to accuse me of betrayal, that i was also to blame, i recommended this lawyer to him there, he did everything for him... the raspberry, and after that we began to communicate very poorly , it was so, well it was so, because you blame in everything, everyone, but you are such good saints, so you’re also not saying that i’m a good saint, but just damn, gio, well, you understand perfectly well why this situation happened, well , imagine, put yourself in my place, well, just imagine you, a friend offers to check the deal as if it were his friend’s lawyer, i check the deal, as if i trust him , as if yes, he says everything is fine, everything is great, then well... you then know what happened then, and you're surprised that i reacted this way, i'm not saying that i'm perfect and
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that i did everything absolutely correctly, if i had done everything correctly, you understand, vyacheslav, that now it’s pointless to be angry with georgy, at this point, can i ask, did you file a claim to recognize you as bona fide buyers, what kind of answer did you receive, they didn’t name us, what if you were recognized as bona fide buyers, you were entitled to a payment, a lump sum payment from the state, which is always calculated individually by the court, it can be there the market value of the object or the cadastral value of the object, here in this case you you can’t count on this, my advice, guys, is not to lose heart, because all the difficulties, i understand this perfectly well, all the difficulties in life are given to those people who can overcome them, you have a strong family and this is clear, you need to hold on, find a lawyer, a competent lawyer, who will not take money from you and give you some kind of nonsense, but who will really give you this... the solution path that you will follow, oleg, what conclusion can you draw from this whole confusing story, i still can’t
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understand, and all of us colleagues don’t understand, we’re sane he was not sane, that is, no one answered us: he is not sane, from this everything is further, you can destroy this chain, everything that was done, everything that should be done, if you start from and do not take into account sane, he is not sane, i see all i see is that some kind of notary appeared, who possibly issued some kind of power of attorney for some people, or even if there was no notary, that is, in this case there was a backing for the purchase agreement document purchase and sale, with the deceased mother there, in general from... this whole scheme, it’s already, well, when you see it, you understand that the person, well, all this is already illegal , i see a fraudulent scheme, i know such situations in practice, i have had a lot of them, their essence is the same, it’s just that the guys have become finite this final link in this chain of deception, oleg, tell me some simple rules when buying an apartment, so as not to get into such
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an unpleasant situation, the first thing from... this situation is always alarming about the frequent transfer of rights within a short time, so be sure to contact us here contact a lawyer or a real estate agency, because most lawyers and real estate agencies have the ability to obtain reliable information and provide it to you. nikita, how can you help these specific people? can you personally do something for them? so, well, first of all, you did the right thing by coming to the federal tv channel. such stories need to be talked about so that people know about them, this is a crime, this crime is obvious to everyone, it is being investigated, i am sure that it will be brought to justice, which means what needs to be done now, for example, for me, like representatives of the state duma have two questions, the first question appears here, the institution in which a person is located, who, according to those present, has been there
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longer than he should have, we will make the necessary inquiries, we will draw attention to the activities. this institution, i’m wondering, it means that maybe there are individual specialists there who periodically help their patients with housing issues, then this, well, after all , the competent authorities will have to somehow check, and we will make sure that they this was noticed because it’s very interesting how everything is shaping up, which means i can’t blame anyone, but i assume that there is a group of people who are related to different institutions, so to speak, of our society, here. some notary has appeared, notaries need to be checked, looked at, because in fact we have responsibility for those incompetent actions that you are responsible for, for which you can collect funds, yes, so the first thing we will do if i i'll ask you to draw up appeal, and we will immediately send requests to all federal authorities tomorrow, we will put them under control and make sure that everything is impartial, this is the first, then the second, thank you very much, as for
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history, i already spoke about this today , i really have. if i see my fellow lawyers have questions that we don’t understand how 1/2 of the murdered mother passed on to her son, but i personally have questions like this, because he lived for six months, i understand what the experts are talking about, but listen , i do not understand why the state did not react promptly, because here is my opinion and the opinion of colleagues with whom i also consulted before this program, that after all, listen, the situation with property, but it would be of such a nature that after all, this is 1/2 of the matter the murdered woman should have been transferred to the state, and this issue must be raised, we must look, we all have deadlines for this, today you said the phrase that listen, well, here we are, we can, we are now left virtually without housing, but we must pay the mortgage, we we pay, or rather, without interruption, take a mortgage holiday, at least so as not to pay this mortgage now, while you are having a trial, it will increase later, i
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understand, well, this is your right, i just said as an option, but your decision is probably the right one , that you still need to insist on compensation, but again , fellow lawyers will say that you need to ask someone, you need to ask the criminals who are caught, who are scammers, perhaps you need to ask those organizations that gave some documents and so on, they assured you that you need to pay attention to this, so we will help you, i will get involved immediately, what other way out of this confusing apartment story could there be, we knocked on the door everywhere. wherever possible, like blind kittens in one door, another door, here we were refused, here we were refused, i will help you for free, but on one condition , look after a short pause, lyudmila lengard dreamed of finding out what happened to her twin brother, i i think that with me next to me it will be much better, svetlana tikhonova and
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saturday we watch superstar, on sunday avatar. at 20:20 on ntv. beyond. this is beyond the bounds. they saved up for a down payment for years to get an apartment with a mortgage, the dream came true, they bought a cozy two-room apartment in irkutsk, but recently they were told that 12 years ago in their apartment, the son boiled his mother alive in the bathtub, and now he is going to return home from forced treatment . and here we a statement came that we were being summoned to court, a civilian was being summoned as defendants, and that this citizen, who is in a mental hospital, he, in fact, is the real owner of this apartment. plaintiff 's lawyer elizaveta sugak said. her client
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has every right to return home, because while he was undergoing forced treatment, the apartment was sold illegally. a citizen who acquired real estate using a forged document, he sold it on june 1, 2020 to another person. well i admit that it might be a fraudulent scheme, this is being established by law enforcement agencies. maria, what way out do you see? from the current situation, unfortunately, in my opinion, it will not be possible to return the apartment, to challenge all these court decisions and push this case through all authorities, there is no point, in my opinion, yes, just waste your time, nerves, i recommend that you file a claim against this previous owner to invalidate the contract, these inseparable improvements, yes, which were acquired, and the return of all funds, because this is a requirement was not satisfied in the previous court hearing, because you... but it was not
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stated, you had a different strategy, i will help you for free, but on one condition, that you pull yourself together and will no longer kill yourself like that, because what do you know, believe me, i have seen a lot of scary stories in my practice, and only those people got out of them who thought that this is just property, this is just money, we are alive, healthy, we are together and we can handle it, so only such an attitude, this is the most important thing, friends, i want to express a huge thank you... to all of you, friends, those who are present here, to all the experts, of course, to you, sergey, because we generally knocked everywhere we could, like blind kittens on some doors, other doors, but here we were refused , here they refused us, but we were like, well, well, someday, but we’ll be lucky, well, we should , well, at least, well, at least once, as they say, the people will fart, well, because well, well, not it may be that everyone just suddenly suddenly became impersonal and stopped paying attention to other people’s grief, so i say again, thank you all so much, because i don’t know
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how it would have developed further if we hadn’t come here. vyacheslav, olga, we really hope that justice will prevail, we hope so too, thank you very much, if you find yourself in a difficult life situation, call and write to our editorial office, we will be back tomorrow, a new dna test right now. tomorrow in the program beyond, a woman’s roommate stabbed a woman 13 times to save herself, she had to pretend to be dead, her lung, liver, intestines were damaged, the diaphragm, the seal, there were three blows to the back of the brain, with a knife in the back, when he was already approaching, i pretended to be dead so that he wouldn’t finish me off completely, lord,

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