tv Pozdnyakov NTV November 17, 2023 12:55am-1:11am MSK
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home, home, let's go. the confrontation in the gas sector continues to split the world, how high is the destructive potential of what is happening for geopolitics and the economy, who is the main beneficiary here, can russia expect the sanctions pressure to ease? is the world community ready for the leadership of communist china, what did the west miscalculate when the new world order comes, let's talk about this with the president of the institute of world economy and international relations iran, alexander dinkin. alexandrovich, the situation in the middle east has become increasingly active lately displaces the ukrainian agenda from information flows. according to experts, the destructive potential
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of the conflict around the gas sector is great. well, i. i think that the destructive potential is very great, because in the middle east, after the aggravation that was associated with the fact that trump withdrew from the joint plan of action on the iranian nuclear program, yeah, after that some kind of reduction in tension began, with the mediation of beijing, there were normalized by relations... between iran and the kingdom of saudi arabia, the indians announced a big transport project like india, saudi arabia, israel and europe, last year relations between ankara and tel aviv normalized, but the most important thing that apparently did not suit the hamas leadership was that there were quite intensive negotiations on normalization of relations between the kingdom
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of saudi arabia and israel, yeah. with the active support of washington, well , there was finally talk about starting to create a palestinian state and negotiating with mahmoud abbas. yes. and so if all this had happened, the role of hamas would have been marginalized. in addition, they understood the not very stable position of the netanyahu government. and all this together apparently led to this attack, which all the security services. and the israeli army overslept, what is the likelihood that a third country could be drawn into this confrontation, because obviously israel has already carried out strikes on lebanon, there have been strikes on syria, and egypt, while not yet seemingly attacked, but there , there is no desire to accept refugees from the same gaza and so on, egypt will not participate in this conflict, because general alsisi, the president of egypt, he at one
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time... the americans came to power, hamas is a movement that. very close to the muslim brothers, so with egypt everything is more or less clear, king hussein of jordan also does not seek pain, therefore moral condemnation and diplomatic steps will be very serious, but i do not expect armed action, that means, except, apparently, from hezbala , hezbollah is a shiite organization, it is a proxy of iran, well, shiites and sunnis are slightly different things, hamas - and the fact that israel carried out strikes - these are warning strikes against iranian proxies , which are also located in syria, yeah, but we must not forget that at one time hamas
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opened the way for troops moving to damascus, and then we barely managed to save basharad, but what do you think of turkey’s position in this conflict, that is, it is so very special. it’s probably time to remember the now fashionable word beneficiary, beneficiary, from this conflict, who wins, whether the turks win or not, or this is an attempt to gain some kind of political weight, this is a simplification, while the beneficiary, i believe, are the strategic planners, the leadership of hamas, which has largely achieved its goals, yeah, if we talk about turkey, then... just like you and i discussed, the turks normalized relations with telavim last year, but now you see how, yes , in the first days, erdogan was, as it were, moderate, but the turkish population, they
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are pumped up by propaganda in favor of taking the palestinians, they have very important parliamentary elections this year besides, i think there is some economic basis, since israel was moving towards such an energy hub in the eastern mediterranean, israel supplied quite a lot of gas to egypt, israeli offshore gas production was developing, today all this has stopped, and the world economy has reacted by increasing the price of freight by 50%, and the mediterranean sea by half, this is the most acute reaction, so the beneficiaries are not visible and israel is losing greatly, and the shekel has already fallen, in my opinion, by 9, or 10%, the stock market has gone downhill, the call there are still 350,000 reservists, this immediately creates tension on the labor market, their own investments
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and foreign investments have stopped there, so the economic crisis in israel is visible, sanovich, tell me, the peak of the trade wars that we saw has passed, just recently in relations there straightaway. or the current geopolitical situation can only contribute to new outbreaks, as they say? i believe that the trade sanctions war is against us, it has already reached a certain plateau, because everything that could have already been announced is now true, no, well there are efforts there, some new packages, a package is being prepared by the european union, but in general, 15,242 have been imposed on russia. if you count everything, this is an absolutely incredible, incredible number , that is, no country has ever been hit by such a thing, this has never happened in history, iran has a much smaller number of sanctions than russia seemed to have, but overall it turned out to be such
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a strategic miscalculation, i remember the forecasts of, say, such a reputable company bloomberg in january twenty-two, they promised us minus 10% in twenty-two, let’s say, i think that it’s early, i honestly don’t see any signs of a mitigation of this situation and american sanctions, they are codified, then, well, again in professional
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jargon, that is, they were adopted by decisions of congress, before that they were, then what called executive orders of the president, they are valid for the period of the president. yeah, and in order to cancel them, you need a vote in congress with two votes, it ’s very difficult, so if something happens, it will happen from europe, i think so. well then, you see, in slovakia changes, a government has come in that does not support the sanctions regime, well, so far we haven’t noticed any serious movements on their part, well, it’s still accumulating little by little, but you remember, orban, he seems to be our friend, but there will always be, there will be a club for such ormans, yes, well, not even a club, but a wallet, i said, yeah, uh , so urban, of course, well, it’s like he takes a position different from most countries, now
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the government has joined him from slovakia, and uh, you know, everyone, everyone is tired of ukraine, to be honest, you and i talked about one strategic miscalculation from the point of view of the sanctions war. the second strategic miscalculation is the calculation of the success of the ukrainian offensive, it does not exist, and this was trumpeted very loudly in june, you remember, when all this began, they write something completely different, well , yes, so there should be some kind of revision when this will happen in 24, i don’t expect this, to be honest, i would be glad to be wrong, the next pryamakov readings are scheduled at the end of november, the topic is stated as horizons of post-globalization, that is, it turns out that globalization, everything has come to an end, we chose this name in order to emphasize that globalization is american.
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as the americans said, they were based on rules, but the rules were american, it ended, so we will talk about some blocks of formation of this post-global and one might even say post-ukrainian world, yeah, one of the steps in this direction was the conference of the 3-20 countries, where the west failed to hold a confrontational declaration of this meeting, you know, then from the new year moscow will be the chairman of brix, and brix has expanded, there are already 11 countries and - the total economic power of these countries is quite high, in a number of parameters it is even higher than the jiva countries, say, in the production of metals, in cars, these countries produce 47% of world production and so on, another strategic miscalculation of the west was that they were counting on the support of the global south, yeah. support, as it were, for their policy in relations between russia and russia
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, obviously she challenged the old globalization and the old world order first, all this seems to be in the south, they were happy about it, you understand that everyone has already decided on this, so globalization will be reformatted according to new principles, i expect this, and what kind of principles could these be, first of all, this is the principle of national sovereignty, this is the principle of equality of countries , these are different approaches, you know, well, no matter how they criticize or scold the un, but if the security council resolution on the creation of two states in the middle east had been implemented, there would not have been this tragedy, the minsk-2 agreement, they were also approved by the declaration of the security council, and then it turned out that we were deceived, of course, so what are we counting on, are there really any principles that... can protect us from such adventurous steps
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that our enemies allowed themselves in relation to us including taking it and throwing it like that? kirill, this is such a philosophical question, it’s time to get used to the fact that the world is not fair, you know, it will remain so, but there are some limits, because what they did with these minsk agreements is what i call the big european lie, because since the fifteenth year, we were told that they were moving towards implementation, no one was going to carry them out, you know, and this is complete nonsense, which, in my opinion , will go down in the history books, you know, objectively, objectively, well, if we say, after the second world war the share of the american economy in the world was almost 50%, today it is about 20%, that is, objective processes, they change this leadership, although the process of changing leadership is not painless. well then,
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leadership is still not given away just like that, so we talked about the fact that china is ready to pick up how generally acceptable this is in principle in today's world, after all, ideology - everyone says communists, the chinese are communists, how can they be world leaders, you know, china does not abandon the communist ideology, that their ideology is based on confucius, so it ’s very they are a delicate nation, they know how to balance, but i think that in pekin, somewhere before the year 1988, there was a misconception that they would painlessly replace the united states as a world leader, much like the states replaced great britain after the war, so this is where they made a mistake. the west was mistaken in that i remember when the reforms began there, they began a long time ago, they began in 1978, what ponies there were in the western press in favor of the chinese reforms, because
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