painlessness, well then, leadership still isn’t just given away? so we talked about what china is ready to pick up, how generally in principle this is acceptable in today’s world , after all, the communists are all talking about ideology, the chinese are communists, how can they be world leaders, you know, china, of course, is not abandoning the communist ideology, but more and more their ideology is based on confucius, so they are a very delicate nation, they know how to balance, but i think that in beijing somewhere before the eighteenth year there was a misconception that they painlessly viewed the united states as a world leader in much the same way as the states replaced great britain after the war, and that’s where they were wrong. the west made a mistake in that i remember when the reforms began there, they began a long time ago, they began in the year seventy-eight, what ponies there were

about other civilizations, this is a very big mistake, civilizations are different, and the anglo-saxon or western european experience, it is absolutely is not applicable either to india, or to china, or to russia, and this is the understanding. come into the world, you see, if this happens, then it will be easier to resolve these frictions at the junctions. alexandrich, thank you very much for the conversation. thank you for the invitation, kiril, always welcome.

hello, it’s a decade of science and technology in russia. the ntv television company and state corporations present the program we are science. science and us is a program about how science will change our lives in the next 10 years. i am vladimir antokhin, yakaterina shugaeva. in 10 years a time machine will be created. i don't even know where we will go, to the past or to the future. well, i would like to stay for now. present, but i invited optimists who believe that in 10 years a time machine will really be created, this is sergey slyuserev, physicist. good evening, good evening, and alexander lazutkin, cosmonaut pilot, hero of russia, hello, good evening, hello , according to tradition, my guests are skeptics, this is vyacheslav moiseev, an expert in philosophy, methodology, science, good evening, and alexey rudnitsky , astrophysicist, good evening, we will fly to the stars, we are already, we are already here, as our wonderful guests. at the end of the program

our optimist guests will make a forecast with what probability a time machine will be created in 10 years ; our expert, professor kapustin, will talk about attempts to create a time machine. the first thing that comes to mind when you hear the words “time machine” is a book by herbert wells. although i prefer the time machine described in the story by the strugatsky brothers, monday begins on saturday, because this machine could be transported to the future and the past, as well as to ideal worlds created by human imagination, and even to the world in which they live anna karenina and don quihod, captain nema and gegoy melikhov. however, many people have tried to create real time machines. kurt gödel found a solution to einstein's equations concerning gravity and a rotating universe, allowing him to create a gravitational field using cones of light.

in 1988, he calculated that the gödel time machine would work; for this, you just need to accelerate to about the speed of light, slow down, turn around, dive into a wormhole and jump out at the other end, so a time loop will appear between the past and the future. in later, this elementary model was complicated, they began to consider it in four-five-dimensional space, well, there was a very small one left... a step to make the time machine convenient for travel. an elementary model of diving into a molehill, but then it seemed to be further complicated so that it would not be so banal. well, yes, otherwise it turns out that it’s very simple, that’s when finally, yes, it will work. where would you like to go to the past or to the future? i have already been to the future in the past. and you and i will look into the past of dinosaurs,

how they built the pyramid there, for example, tell me about it, although, by the way, yes , it’s dangerous to go to the future, what if it doesn’t exist, but yes, and there definitely were pyramids, and alexey georgivich, and in general , was there ever a time when i had no time? a very interesting question, right away, it would seem, you can answer either yes or no, yes, but in reality it’s not that simple, any of these answers will be incomplete, i’ll explain, look, the very concept of time, it’s abstract, who invented it, but you and i people came up with what it means when there were no people and when we didn’t came up with this concept of time, why didn’t there exist time, okay, let’s turn to which, in principle, is not defined by anything, time is defined only when we introduce the concept of measuring time, that is, this is some kind of device, for example, yes, which generates periodic events, and we

take this as a standard for a certain period of time, a piece, that is, our clock, a stopwatch, periodically, periodically, there is an intrapendulum, yes, it generates. events, respectively, you and i, that we somehow measure time, yes, we have a standard, let's say seconds, but this does not mean that there was no time when other events took place, what am i leading to, let 's rise from the earth and go into space, our universe is limitless, its age is about 14 billion years, people appeared much later than the universe arose, this is understandable, accordingly, does it mean? that there was no time until people appeared, although the universe is already 14 billion years old, right? the entire universe from the moment of its emergence is simply teeming with events, there are events occurring on different time scales, and what we accept on earth, usually in

a second, is the standard of our time, and in the universe there can be countless standards of time, i will give examples: the process of the emergence of stars and planets. and these processes take billions of years, let's go to smaller scales, this is the birth and death of elementary particles, which these processes occur in space, in the universe constantly, and these are time scales that reach some billionths of a second, these events occur constantly, all the universe is permeated by these events on different scales time, that is, these are billionths of seconds, billions of... years, and this means that, in principle, time exists and existed without you and me, because events happened, are happening and will happen, yes, so it’s very strange, physicists say that time turns out to be a continuous quantity, how is it continuous , how did all these hearts froze, time stopped,

quite a discontinuous quantity, it seems to me that this is from the point of view of women, uh-huh , perhaps we have female brain confusion , vyacheslav, when did people realize that there was time, this somehow changed us as humanity, well, usually... they say that each era creates some kind of its own idea of ​​time, for example, in antiquity they say that there was cyclical time, and, as it were, real linear time, open to the future arises only in the middle ages with christianity , then the idea of ​​infinite space, infinite god, his omnipotence, including expressed in this eternity, linearity of time, the idea of ​​the arrow of time arises, and it is not thermodynamics. if it's an arrow, it means it has a direction, then that means there is no past, why? direction from the past, from the past to

the future through the present, well, now is such a time that time has become the fourth dimension for us, and in philosophy there are two main concepts, spaces. time, when they are considered absolute, independent of everything that flows in them, here , the revolutionary theory of relativity arose, especially established itself, here time and space are considered as a property of objects, changing objects, today, rather, this concept is already more dominant. each object has its own time, this is interesting, now we’ll find out, alexander ivanovich, time in space on earth flows the same way, for example, when you return from a long flight to earth, do you think you end up in the past or in the future?

well, here i am, in principle, the same materialist, i know, i know , let's tell the whole truth, that here i am also familiar... with einstein's theory of relativity and knowing about the gemini paradox, when one twin remains on the earth, and the other flies away from him , and yes, i’m such a twin. i flew away from us, i’m arriving, for the one who remained on earth, a longer period of time passed for him than for me, after all, yes, that is, i actually ended up in the future, in the future, you mean, when , but according to physics, yes, i lived, but according to the sensation, according to the sensations, you were flying, according to the sensations, unfortunately, nothing hits, there is no such thing. i arrive, everything is in place, i think that everything is fine, but

in fact, i’m somewhere by a fraction, a fraction of a second, i’m younger, we’re behind, yes, that is, you ’re still younger, younger, that means cosmonauts after all, that is, time flies up there, apparently honey, well, it flies slower, as it were , because we move at a speed of 8 km per second, no one here moves like that, and you are constantly at a high enough speed for everything time, do you feel it when you are there? that it’s somehow different, unfortunately, no, no, unfortunately , it seems, don’t say anything, but we’ll find out, we’ll find out after the advertisement, wait, wait, they do some tests when you come back, something about you sometimes they ask about the time, but they can’t just ask you about ask about your physical condition, write down what you saw, how you feel, they ask you something about sensations, no, then they just ask an acquaintance, listen, how are you really, someone should investigate this, now, now - explore, here are two. there are two twins, two american astronauts, they are very similar on earth, and

now there, when one recently flew away for a year, they decided to conduct this experiment, leave it there for 10, just in case, don’t leave it, don’t leave it, don't leave, just there is a twin brother, who everything is similar, it’s like the gemini theory, the twin paradox, this one twin flew away, it seems that scientists say that the one who flew in has something younger there, well, there’s something in the molecule the dna is there, something like that, it stretched out or didn’t stretch out, some chromosome did not increase, or, on the contrary , increased, but the one who remained remained on earth, our astronautics is actually more humane, but that’s how it is with us we didn’t have such twins, and in general it seems to me that it wouldn’t have occurred to us to mock us like that,

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at 22:15 on ntv. on air program, science and us, a program about how science will change our lives in the next 10 years, in 10 years a time machine will be created, we will find out, because at the end of the program our guests, optimists and skeptics will make a forecast with what probability in 10 years a time machine will really be created, but by the way, time travel is possible - says our expert, professor kapustin, time travel is possible, at least when it comes to moving into the future, if you get on a plane and... travel around the world, you will move one millionth of a second forward, but if you want to advance more in time, you need to fly at a speed close to the speed of light, if you have an aircraft capable of flying around the earth seven times in a second, then

a week will pass for you, 100 years will pass on earth, and another it's better to get close to the black hole. time there does not flow the same way as in our reality , we could easily move forward many years ago, but scientists understand the term time machine, not a physical machine or mechanism, as curved space time, within it you can move from one point in space time to another, due to focused gravitational fields, but such fields must be super-powerful, einstein described time as the fourth dimension. he believed that it was only moving forward, but with at different speeds under different conditions. and if you move at the speed of light, then: time will slow down for you, but your weight will be infinite, your height will be zero, how are your prospects so-so, it’s you, it

’s you who wanted the future, i’m losing weight, losing weight , and here is infinite, just like that, sergei nikolaevich, and how does science today answer the question of what time is, who studies time today and how it does it, well, yes, it seems that this is... the most commonly used word in any language, but explain really what time is, very it’s not easy, even from the point of view of science, yes, for example, physics, elementary particles , time-temporal processes are reversible, that is, the vector can be either a plus or a minus, so explain this, and why this is so in this case. i view this as, i view this as a way to describe processes with equations, it is convenient to substitute time with a plus

or minus sign, for example, the birth of antiparticles is a process with a minus sign, a complex concept, yes, yes, that’s why i understand, that this is convenient, it’s just not clear, so here it is let's say in mythology, time is just a physical quantity. yes, that is, mitorology is concerned with ensuring that this physical quantity is very stable , that is, it is beneficial for our civilization, for synchronizing our activities, and here, in principle, what a period of time is, this is quite clear for every person, yes, well, something like this, that is , the special theory of relativity, each material point has its own time and it is different in relation to another material

point, what is it and how to explain it, well in general, it’s also very difficult, most likely from my point of view, this is just a convenient way to describe the processes of the special theory of relativity, if we take the general theory of relativity, then let’s say the time that flows when approaching a black hole, it, let’s say , of course, but for the observer who watches this process, the black hole itself, how interesting, that is, every branch of physics explains time differently, that is, we have not yet decided what it is, well, somehow yes, not at all agreed, yes, the most important thing, everyone just takes it and does it as it suits them, well, really, yes, on the planet time is not a fact that it is the same for everyone, you have one thing, i may have another, an astronaut, in general third, they are young, yes, vyacheslav ivanovich, and when did a person ever have the idea

that it was possible to create a time machine, do you think, we won’t decide on the time, right away, well, people have been thinking about time travel for a long time, but without a machine, because consciousness itself is a kind of time machine, we can go into the past, we can... imagine the future, there are things, dreams, yes, by the way, in philosophy there are two theories of time, a and b, they are called, and theory and b theory, and theory says that there is only the present, the past no longer exists, the future does not yet exist, and the b-theory, this is einstein ’s, just says that everything in some sense exists simultaneously, the past and the present, the future, and prophetic dreams in this case confirms the b-theory , yes, that’s how in this sense it turns out, in principle, dreams confirm the theory. that everything is at the same time, because we see the past, the future is simultaneous, which means there is both the future and the present and the past at the same time, only they exist in some other states of being, and

our consciousness seems to cut out some certain slice from this continuum, yes , which it absolutizes, and makes it seem so maximally manifested , maximally existing, but this is done by consciousness in this regard, it looks like such a river, that is, here you are sitting on... the bank of the river, you have such blinders, and you see only what is floating past you, that’s opposite, but what is floating there upstream, or there, well, further, below you can also see, that’s what’s not up there, but there’s a log floating somewhere , you see, it’s already there, it’s already floating there, but in your slice, in your slice, it will appear only after some time, if suddenly some person takes off the curtain and looks there at the upper current, he will see this log , yes, here are the things. the dream confirms exactly this, but as for the time machine, well, professor kapustin said, probably it was herbert wills, when

it came to creating a special mechanism that would carry out such movements, this is 1888, his first early work was called the argonauts of chronos, and it was already published and slightly edited , like a time machine, 1895, who edited it interestingly, what was corrected there, the owner of the time machine, probably sergei nikolaevich, and today they are doing some experiments on time? yes, today they are already experimenting with time, and i would like to tell you, let’s say, an experiment in the seventies, when a quantum clock was transported almost around the world on an airplane; it showed , uh, let’s say, a deviation in the time scale, but as a metrologist, i can say that this

experiment was not completely correct. because the influence on the optical frequency standard , which would be the basis of the clock, was affected by both changes in the magnetic field and temperature changes, so it was precisely the effect of gravity on the clock that was isolated, well, in general, it’s a little complicated, but nevertheless , scientists were glad that it happened, as if there was a shift in the time scale, and when more accurate optics appeared, for example, with a frequency standard. we performed the same experiment again, but more unique, let's say, that is, we compared the optical transition , with a difference in height of literally 10 cm, 10 cm, this is not an orbit, the surface of the earth is 10 cm, and we saw that the frequency of the transition has changed, then there is what we observe, for example, in

orbital ones, which are on satellites and there, as it were, the time scale is a little different, we saw it, we saw it with a difference of 10 cm . so we can show a slide of these optical standards, which are located in our institute, with the help of which we just did, did such an experiment, this is what the clock looks like, that the watch looks like this, well, it’s not part of the watch, the system, i imagined that it was somehow different. and you follow the atom separately to understand how, yes, that’s just a cloud of cold atoms, if you take two clouds of cold atoms, separated in space by 10 cm, we see that the transition, the optical transition of these atoms, this is exactly what the optical clock really is, is different, different at the level, so which of

them, which cloud is faster, which is lower or which is higher? we will now confirm the theory with the cosmonauts, for whom time flows more slowly, who is taller, who is taller, yes, after all, you see , metrologists are not deceiving you, but nevertheless, nevertheless, as a metrologist, i want to say, that we are observing a change in the purity of the optical standard, with the help of this purity we form: in principle, a time scale and we, as mitrologists, must maintain it very accurately, this time scale. our state time scale is located in our institute, in principle, it is one of the most one of the three most accurate state time scales in the world. do you have time? we control time, yes, so i want to repeat once again that, in principle, we are observing a change in the frequency of transition. at

the same time, it is not a fact that this time has changed, it is not a fact that this time has changed, moreover, moreover, let’s say we synchronize the time scale, which is located in our institute, in orbit, we simply synchronize it, in principle the time scale is the same, the fact that it is the same allows us to very accurately determine the location, our location, on the ground using glanas or gps, this is the main factor, the fact that the time scale is distance, in fact, it turns out that time is directly related to distance, that is, you introduce corrections, we introduce corrections, frequency corrections, not time corrections, and frequency corrections that affect the behavior of the time scale, when we began to create a metronome very accurately, yes, these are atomic atomic

purity standards, in fact a quantum metronome... yes, we arbitrarily formed a second, approximately one beat they control time , just not, well, we do, we own it. we synchronize everything there, no, we don’t manage , we’ll tweak something, but you can tweak it, we can’t tell anyone, we can tweak it, yes, but this is a generally dangerous activity, because in principle, why is synchronization so important? time, yes, that is, in general, the existence of the internet is , time synchronization is precisely what makes it possible for the internet to exist, because the packet... packet transmission would be impossible, and that is, gps, location determination, without synchronization is impossible, we simply own

time, we just own the internet, we just own navigation, we don’t control anything, we still don’t understand what time is , well, we’re just here in charge of everyone, about the fact that... we still don’t understand anything what time is , but if such are carried out experiments, maybe a question from the blonde, after all, when you are up there, they measure how your heart beats, it may be beating in a different schedule, at a different time, they ask you something, when is it night or day? , more precisely, you probably have it there, how does it all happen, maybe they conduct some experiments on you over time, or you do some experiments over time, well, this is how i answer blondes, but it’s like ours is rougher things, in fact, here is what we do at the station, well, we grow plants, we, let’s just say it doesn’t matter a little, it’s more important than time, but for now yes, for now yes,

because it’s important for us to grow, and if something ripens there, it can be eaten, that ’s good, so wait a minute, maybe it’s a plant grows in a different time, you know, faster, while it grows in the one in which it should, at least we don’t notice in what time it grows. place of one harvest you don’t collect two , yes, unfortunately, for now yes, uh, but we’ll probably come soon, uh, yes , we are studying the lands, we are there, creating new materials and so on and so forth, here we are time, it’s not a person who should probably work, these are these automata that are devoid of sensation, there is imagination, that’s not a fact, that’s the point, that time can be something like this...’ a philosophical, sort of sensual concept, not the fact that it, if it is also a sensory concept, then we can sit, one says: oh, you know, i feel so good now, oh, how quickly time passed, i felt good, and the other will say, during the same time i i’m sitting, but there’s terrible melancholy, i’m already tired of

sitting, but you don’t have something like that, sit down, americans people like that say, oh, it feels like summer now, and you tell him, i don’t know, it’s always winter here, there’s no such thing, don’t you share some? no, there is no such thing, well, that’s what i had in my feelings, and when we took off, i was still a normal person, an earthling, so i was flying according to moscow time, at the station, went to bed, well , it’s clear what it is arrived, tired, and so on, in the morning i wake up, just like a kokoshka, and it ’s dark, my watch is already there, moscow time, 9:00 should already be that day, there’s this one inside...’ discomfort from that, something is wrong, i probably didn’t wake up late or woke up early, it’s still there, but then it goes away, astronauts are amazing people, you know how it’s like , i arrived at the station, got a little tired, went to bed and decided to rest, i’m there

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one important point in a conversation with sergei nikolaevich, but it was mentioned that time can depend on distance, and the question of synchronization and so on, but there is cosmological time, time, which was introduced by astrophysicists, let's say so, here is an additional local reference system, which is attached to the reference system in which the clock is located, yes, the clock flows according to the theory of relativity within the framework of the counting system in which they are located, this local system, cosmological, so-called, it will have your time, which is common to everyone, well, maybe... conditionally call it universal time, so i would prefer to say that it is the universe that manages time, and we can manage something, we can manage the clock that is in our local system report, here you go, special parts , they are in the opposite direction of the moment in time, you

say, no, i would like the present, returning to the question of whether we can control time. and i will surprise you if i say that, for example, astronomers have been able to travel into the past for a long time, there is a nuance, as they say, how this happens, not by themselves, but indirectly, by the theory of relativity, one of the postulates says that for us the speed of light is constantly at vacuum, 3000 km per second, well , yes, accordingly, the light emitted from a distant distant object that is located everything is at the other end. kilometers from us, this light emitted, it reaches the observer of you and me on earth, after a large amount of time, from the moment when it was emitted, respectively, what astronomers do, we want to look further into the past, we look at distant objects, we

accept light that was emitted a long, long time ago if we see a star as it was in the past, over some long distances. to another galaxy we will look into the past of the universe, if we look at the object closer, yes, this is acceptable stars in our galaxy, we will already shift this border, get closer to our time, there it will be some billions of years, yes, not tens of billions of years, some measly billions of years, astrophysicists, then we can carry out observations in neighboring planetary systems our solar system, this is , accordingly, time travel, well , conditional, right? looking into the past, much closer to us, correctly, correctly, i understand that when our lunar rover finally ends up on the moon, we will see it as it is was a little in the past, listen, well, our light spreads limited, we have light from the sun for how many minutes, 8 minutes 32, from

the moon closer, well, let’s say i see the lunar rover on the moon the way it was 4 minutes ago, what what happened to him in these 4 minutes, but we see you already a little more clearly, and by the way, for sure. you see me still young, i haven’t aged a little yet, don’t worry, but for women, so to speak, it’s nice, yes, yes, good, sergei nikolaevich, if they do create a time machine, it will be move into the past and into the future, or will these be fundamentally two different models, one for the past, the second for the future, yes, well, as we have already said, yes, that in principle, our universe is a time machine. yes, we have already discussed this, so perhaps it’s worth imagining a time machine to the future, yes, well, what could it be , in principle, why did this question arise, this is our desire to go either to the past or to the future, ours, so that our consciousness

has gone either to the past or to the future, our personality has gone either to the past or to the future, it’s another thing to go back there and so on, that is, to meet our relatives again. spend time with them again, so in principle, uh, this can be represented as uh, let’s say, uh, the matrix of our consciousness, let’s say, uh, using a matrix of photons, so encode our consciousness, specifically individuals, and send this matrix of photons, let's say into space or along some kind of ring. gravitational and after some time, let’s say, and reversely transform this matrix, consciousness, yes to end up, at some time, most likely in the future, right?

to sleep in suspended animation, preferably, and somehow fantasize, well, something like this is how i imagine it, because, dear professor, he basically explained to us that, in general, it’s not just like that from the point of view of the fact that we we see in our world, to create a time machine, like this, like this, in general, somehow it’s possible , in fact, i want, i want the body not to travel, it’s enough for the consciousness to travel, the body feels good here, so that they completely scare you with your travels into the future, i have a question for our guests, optimists and skeptics: what dangers await us when we try to create a time machine, well, the most important thing is to meet ourselves, as the professor said, in the famous tv series back the future, yes, it is unknown what will happen when i find myself in some past, yes from the future and the one in the past, they will shake hands, maybe some kind of annihilation will occur, yes annihilation, some kind of explosion

or something else, yes, this is one of those, one such danger, a big risk, the second, of course, is changes in the scenario of the future, yes, that is, well, again there in the second episode , by the way, well, in all the episodes there they work on changing their family and clan, so to speak, so that later they come back now to get more, these are positive results, and then in the second episode, remember beef, such a nightmare was created, yes, so it depends on who gets it, this is the second problem, well, let me add vyacheslav ivanovich right away, in this sense, vyacheslav ivanovich speaks about the creation of time loops, this is when the world lines of objects traveling in time intersect, but here they may not intersect and safety precautions may not intersect, novikov,

they formed the principle of self-sufficiency. without going into details, the principle of self-sufficiency removes this paradox of the emergence of a time loop, that is, it says that we cannot change the events that have already occurred, thus completely eliminating the risks associated with that we will go to the past, change something, we will return there will be a different future, even if we go to the past, we will be there as observers, but they told you to intervene, that’s all right, you are there, here in fact there is one more point, here is sergei nikolaevich, touched on it a little, touching on the topic of fundamental... issues related to high-energy particles, you can remember, try the cpt theorem, these are

fundamental transformations associated with the simultaneous inversion of the charge of a particle, its spatial position in time. according to this theorem, richard fayman took great advantage of this idea, suggesting that a particle is an antiparticle, but... they seem to move differently in time, he took an electron , a positron - these are the antiparticles of an electron, and tried to tie the sipity theorem to the fact that a positron - this is actually an electron traveling back in time, so strugatsky has already told everything about this before, listen, and what happens, about the danger, if we are talking about time travel, let's say you and i went back in time, the sepitheorem worked for us , we became antimatter, anti, anti... we appeared in the past, let's say, it doesn't matter, in the future, antimatter appeared, what will it

do, at the first moment of time, it will immediately annihilate, everything will be destroyed, and the real problem is that you and i will go back in time, become antimatter, at that time someone, like us, will go to the future and take our place, the whole place is occupied, we will not return, no, well both will annihilate and return to their places, it’s still logical, well i don’t know, alexander ivanovich, is there any danger in such a journey, yes, i think that there is a danger, but maybe there is no danger, we now know so little about this world in which we live, so we have now accumulated this knowledge, we say, oh, this is the time and now we are annihilating somewhere, somewhere we are not annihilating, somewhere we will have such a time line, there will be another, now we will live a little more there, we will become wiser for several thousand years, i'm sure i want it that way. we'll make a normal time machine when we're ready travel back and forth, we were talking about 10 years, yes we are talking about, but you still, if

it’s more, by the way, do you have that feeling when there’s an astronaut in space, looking down at the earth and thinking, lord , how small and stupid we are, but we very clearly noticed, well, i wouldn’t say stupidity, but there is a big difference in the feeling. the world of earthlings who live here, but they know that our world is limitless , so in their consciousness they know, but do not feel, there, when, well, you sit there, you look out the window, you see this land and you you see this whole world, and you feel it, but for me, at the very least, it was such a chill that ran through my shift. from the infinity of space, from the infinite number of stars, it is impossible to imagine that

such an infinite number is frightening, it is a chill. delight and fear, because this is a huge world, and also, i realized that we live here on earth, our world, ask any earthling, he is connected with our planet, the earth, yes, yes, like, where are we going? her, uh-huh, yes, and i think, i, this world, which i considered my world, is a small point in all over this world. and all my life i studied this point, i studied how it works, i studied who lives on it, listen, this is a small point in this world, here i know everything, here there is nothing, this is the feeling i got, and no , and i just wanted to turn my back to this land and fly there, because we don’t know anything there, but it’s interesting, the unknown, yes, what

dangers await us there. as a physicist, i am ready to join what was said earlier, yes, as a person, to interrupt the fact that science fiction writers have analyzed all possible options, starting there from the butterfly effect, yes, which, in principle, can radically measure our future world after we allow the butterfly to be crushed or something with it. we do, that is, i would like to fantasize here , but i don’t dare to interrupt the fantasies in this regard, then let’s take a break for advertising, advertising on ntv, each of us has something dear to us, honor, memory. present and future, dear,

sincere, and not like a worn-out phrase from a sticker, we do not throw words to the wind, and we do not abandon our own, join yours, on the air about science and we are a program about how science will change our lives in the next 10 years, dear optimists and skeptics, we have a question for you all, what is the probability in your time, in your opinion, in your time, and in your opinion, vyacheslav ivanovich , do you have a forecast, what is the probability of cars, i am a fan of time machines, films, books about time travel, my favorite topic, but the fact that this will happen in 10 years

is 0%, and where would you go to the future? went back and forth, first, just so as not nihilate, yes, wait, i remember this theory, that at the same time, all three times, but still, where would they go first, to the future, the future, i want to see what will happen to russia, and yes, everything will be okay, maybe then not 0%, at least, no, no, no, in 10 years, no, too fundamental a problem, 0%, thank you very much, sergey nikolaevich, do you have a forecast with what probability it will be created? well, we already talked about the fact that we live in a time machine, but we are dealing with the past, here is an experiment in moving to the future started, so it’s 100% there, and 100% there. it turns out that we live in a time machine , we just don’t really know how to use it yet, in general, we somehow own it, yes, but we don’t use it, but 100% probability, 100%, thank you very much, you

know, i would speculate: on those words that alexander ivanovich said that maybe we will become wiser in 100 years, but i want to compress the time frame a little here and say that in fact, we are now discussing with you within the framework of those theories of fundamental discoveries that have already been made , it's like a small wall is building up here, i am a skeptic, but i can assume that we always do not exclude the possibility that something fundamental will happen... and maybe this will happen in 10 years, i will be restrained, i will say 50%, 50%, you not an astrophysicist, you are a philosopher, i’m an optimist, how you revealed me, welcome to our camp, 50%, since i’m still

an optimist, so i would say that well, it’s 50 percent, 50 to 50, so let’s say that ’s all- the machine will be created, time will become conscious, something like this may happen, something new to us is not yet... unknown, when it will immediately seem, oh, lord, what were we thinking here before, everything was so easy, here it is, here it is , the time machine, we just had to turn it, but we didn’t see it, yes, but we didn’t see it, and where would you go to past or future? oh, i’m incredibly interested in the future, interested in the past, whether everything is true to us, whether history told us the whole truth. yeah, check, check, yes, that is , you still want to live for a thousand years, great, not a bad option, yes, yes, well, in general 50%, thank you very much, volodya, these are just ideal

the guests, who actually voted very correctly, of course, to such a question, such an answer, i asked the question, with what probability a time machine will be created, they answered 50/50, yes, either it will be created, yes or no, maximum. well, i don’t even know what to say, of course, it’s surprising that clock time is completely different, and i don’t know, maybe we’ll go to the future and invite our viewers to watch us again in a week, consider that we’ve already offered today , the future is almost here, well i after all, i still advocate moving into the past, because i would really like to eventually figure it out, it was as it was written, and some, pseudo-historians. or was it just our way, yes, but while there is no time machine, on a global scale , i brought it to you, small, hand-made, look, and

then, and then my heart froze in my chest, it was a program, we are science, science and we are a program about how science will change, including our lives in the next 10 years, see you in a week, bye!

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