does the kiev regime have the strength to prove to its curators that it is ready to fight to the last? it's a challenge, it's not easy. new enemies of the people. in russia they called for the deprivation of agents, property and citizenship. and is there a legal way to get rid of this stigma? if minya is recalled in the end. look, right now. hello, this is the meeting place on ntv, the place where everything becomes clear, i am andrey norkin, my colleague ivan trushkin, we are working live. of course, i swung myself with a spatula this morning, dear friends, but on the other hand, it’s a sin for me to complain, because that i flew in from saratov at night, that is, there was a terrible fog there, you couldn’t see anything at all, it was snowing here in moscow, but i somehow avoided cancellations, delays there...

of flights, so today the morning began with a charge of vigor , although in about an hour i cleared only half of what was needed, but i say, it’s a sin for me to complain, because of course, the weather this weekend, especially on sunday, presented, to put it mildly, unpleasant surprises to all of us, if we say about the capital region, then forecasters say that the strongest in 40 years snowfall, and despite the fact that we immediately began to thaw, that is, this sticky snow sticks everywhere. this morning there were terrible traffic jams also in the moscow region and in moscow. several dozen flights were delayed at airports due to bad weather, but uh, this is not the only region that suffered, you all probably watched the news the day before what was happening in the krasnodar territory, especially in crimea, because there, well, let’s actually, we’ll look at the pictures now, today after this storm of the century in crimea they even declared a day off, because it’s impossible to get to work , look what was happening there: a

storm warning was in effect all weekend, last weekend, there were showers of snow, gusts of squally wind exceeded 140 km/h. the peak of the hurricane occurred on sunday afternoon, eyewitnesses posted footage, this is sevastopol, the city embankment is simply going under water, dozens of trees and advertising billboards were knocked down in the city, trolleybus traffic was stopped, about a billion residents were left without electricity throughout crimea, the black sea region peninsulas without... water and heat. in yevpatoria, you see these images, more than 200 residents were evacuated from flooded houses, rescuers evacuated more than 200 residents, seven casualties were reported , two were hospitalized, all those evacuated were placed in temporary stay centers, but this is a crimean seaside village, unfortunately there were some casualties, here the body of a man was discovered in the morning, it’s a man, he disappeared during a night hurricane under a pike perch, he went to look at the waves at night, and apparently he was washed away, but there were also these... pictures when,

if you have ever traveled from the city of saki to yevpatoriya, there you have to drive along this spit for quite a long time, it is very narrow, absolutely everything was flooded with water, the cars are just standing there and the drivers comment that it is impossible to drive because of the roads no, it’s just a sea, and as for the damage caused, there are no figures yet, that is, the authorities of crimea and sevastopol say that everything can be calculated only when the weather finally calms down, it is known that four scientific laboratories were seriously damaged sevastopol institute of biology of the southern seas. the accident occurred in the sevastopol aquarium museum, where the wind blew away the ventilation system on the roof, you see, water poured into this fool, unfortunately, a huge number, several hundred marine animals that lived in this aquarium, died. all the animals, about 800 that were there, died. or in

nine aquariums, all the equipment—pumps, ventilation—failed, and colossal damage was caused to the building. the storm reigns not only over the crimea, let's now look together at the footage from sochi, there this is how in the disaster movie the waves, their height was up to 8 m, roll out to the first line, and this water is already going deep into the street. all residents and guests of the city are prohibited from accessing the beach, the first line is flooded with water, the waves have also washed away the railway between sochi and tuapse, russian railways reports the delay of almost 50 trains due to bad weather, work to clear the tracks from fallen trees has already begun, in sochi, in novorossiysk and krasnodar there were casualties, people were injured, as you see, due to the fall of either trees or metal structures, all the wounded were taken to hospitals, classes in schools and

kindergartens were canceled in anapa. also, the operational headquarters of the krasnodar territory reports that in the area of ​​​​the village of vitevo, near anapa, a dry cargo ship was abandoned by a storm. this cargo ship was flying the flag of belize. it has 21 people on board - these are all crew members, they are citizens of syria, india and egypt. it is reported that the ship is now having problems with the engine part, well, rescuers from the ministry of emergency situations are now preparing a rescue operation, but they will begin it only when the weather has already returned to normal. the bad weather has passed along the black sea coast towards ukraine, that is, to the west. in odessa and the region , the snow storm was more of a concern, but it practically paralyzed all possibilities for delivering goods to the ukrainian armed forces. that's about it first of all. the ukrainian side reports: in the footage published by eyewitnesses from the odessa-kiev highway, it is clear that the cars are standing motionless, they have been under a snow blockade since yesterday, heavy trucks are prohibited from moving from kiev to odessa, bus routes have also been canceled, the difficult situation at the border ukraine and moldova, there for

all border checkpoints on the odessa-rni highway are closed; local authorities have not yet said anything about the timing of the resumption of traffic and the pace of clearing the highways. we are trying to get cars out of skids on the odessa-kiev highway and direct trucks to a parking spot. traffic on the m15 highway is completely blocked, but there are still sections of the road with a congestion of vehicles, we provide them with assistance, and users of social networks are now making jokes that this snow storm in ukraine of course they will call it a russian provocation, and the reason for this was these images , this was once the largest flag of ukraine, and you see that the wind... tore it in two, it was installed near the monument to the mother’s homeland, you see, it’s just there recently, if you remember, they removed the soviet coat of arms, well, yes , in general, andrei laminich, everyone will say that this is a russian provocation, quite logical on their part, i just watched it like that, because they didn’t show it on this screen, of course, you’re being a little selfish you behave because

we often, here are the guests from this side, the studio and i, we don’t see what you’re talking about, we have to crane our necks, here i’m either selfish in relation to the audience or in relation to you, it’s good here. tv viewers, yes, all of our tv viewers, well, in general, natural disasters are certainly a very serious matter, no one will argue with this, but of course we wanted to talk about something else a little, because well, discuss, because if we take kiev, then of course, storms of a slightly different nature are raging there, political ones, but the fact is that another portion of revelations on the topic of the fact that a special military operation , well, not that it could have been avoided, but it could have ended a long time ago, in general, on conditions that were acceptable to both sides, in general, another portion of such revelations this time it was not just anyone who gave it away, but the comrades of the army, if you remember, this is the person who heads the faction of the servant of the people party in the verkhovna rada, and he was the leader

of this ukrainian delegation at those very negotiations in istanbul, about which in our the country has already said a lot, and the president talked about it, then they started talking ... he didn’t say anything new, he didn’t say anything that we didn’t know, well, somehow this is how it all works now, that every time there’s such a speech, it produces the effect of a really exploding information bomb, and since this is said by a fairly high-ranking ukrainian politician, well , in general, this is generally something out of the ordinary , let's take a closer look at the end of last week, the leader of the faction servant people, who headed the ukrainian delegation at last year’s negotiations with russia, said that in the spring of twenty-two the parties could conclude peace agreements. it was enough for kiev to agree to the neutral status of ukraine and not join nato, but the west intervened in the person of boris johnson, who came from britain and was still prime minister.

why didn’t ukraine agree to this point? well, first of all, in order to agree to this point, it was necessary to change the constitution, our path. fixed in it. when we returned from istanbul, boris johnson came to kiev and said that we will not sign anything with them, and let’s just fight. former german chancellor gerhard schröder recently said that the conflict could have been resolved immediately after the start of a special military operation. according to him, the united states was not allowed to go to peace then, although ukraine only had to fulfill five points, the main one of which was, again, the refusal to join nato. also kiev, the russian language has legal status. the third point assumed the preservation of donbass as part of ukraine, but with status of broad autonomy. in addition, kiev had to recognize crimea as russian, in return it would receive security guarantees from the soviet union and germany. the only force that

could resolve the conflict between russia and ukraine is the americans. ukrainians did not agree to peace because they were not allowed to. my impression is that nothing could have worked out, because everything really important was decided in washington, it was a fatal story about the fact that the kiev regime refused to sign an acceptable draft peace agreement with vladimir putin also spoke about moscow to please the western curator last summer. this draft of this agreement was initialed by the head of the negotiating team from kiev. but after we, as promised, withdrew the troops from kiev, the kiev authorities, as their masters usually do, threw it all away, the dustbin of history. and now, the ex. negotiator arakhamia states that it is useless to talk about the prospects for a peace agreement, saying that ukrainian

politicians and the military are in favor of continuing the war, but with a reservation if the end the people will demand military action, then the situation will change radically, you respect that you think that ukrainian society will accept this, i generally believe that no matter how the war ends, except for complete victory, everything else should go through a referendum when the people say that it is necessary so, i’ll do it... how wonderful it would be if they all had long ago shoved something of their own opinion somewhere far away, maybe to each other, i wouldn’t mind at all, speridon pavlovich, please explain to me , i don’t want to say any platitudes, that everything secret becomes clear there, i understood all this , why is it that the shelf life of this information for representatives of the kiev elite has expired, why is he telling this now, well, in general, it’s surprising that

he even appeared on tv screens, because he well, for six months it was not in the information field at all, yes, probably this interview, it was not accidental, i see behind this some kind of, you know, such a naive, banal attempt to shift responsibility to the west, where to say, we didn’t want to fight, well, johnson has arrived forced us to fight, you know, i just can’t understand one thing. in order to start a war, the word of johnson alone was enough for them, and now it turns out that in order to end the war not by military means, this must be decided by the people, i’ll just ask the question, where is the power in this scheme, so it can decide something or not maybe he says, we can’t , and why, but because if we take on this responsibility, we will all fight in parliament, well, in general, this is history, then this is the only explanation that they are translating,

yes, i’m trying to hear some kind of signal behind these words, for example, is there a signal in this for us from moscow, but let’s go back to the state, we thought that we could fight, that’s a bad person, johnson, the ukrainians say to us, i say, let’s try again, we realized that we didn’t succeed, they say there is a history of relations, and with those parties with which it would potentially be possible to conduct a certain dialogue, for example, the european union, we remember how it signed yes guarantees to yanukovych, were they implemented? no, that means we remove it by method of exclusion, because it is possible to come to an agreement with him, it is impossible to implement the agreements, the second, possibly potential negotiator, ukraine itself, vladimir putin demonstrates the document, by the way, ukraine denied the fact of signing these documents, even in this interview, suggests that we are not signed. putin demonstrates documents that were not signed with all additional annexes and so on, yes, that

is, they were signed, that is, the ukrainian side is ready to agree on something, but again cannot implement the agreements, again by the method of elimination we remove who remains, only the americans remain, that’s it, there is no one else to talk to and there is nothing to talk about, and it’s not a fact that you can come to an agreement with them and these agreements will be implemented, well, i don’t know, that’s already, as they say , let russia itself understand, if, if this is really an attempt to say that yes, it didn’t work out for us, it’s not our fault at all, and it’s bad johnson, whom everyone has already generally forgotten, because after him there was another prime minister, then i’m already a prime minister, who is boris johnson anyway, no one knows him knows, this could be an explanation for why such an interview has now come out viktorich, well , look, first of all, you heard that for some reason the war was started by boris johnson, boris johnson. didn’t start, no, he said that we, let’s just fight, right, but this was after the start of svo, svo was, therefore, moscow,

right, no, no, not boris johnson, but boris johnson said, really, if , if we proceed from rahami’s words that instead of going to the negotiation process , to conclude some agreements that we must resist and that the west will help, these are the key words , now today we are talking about... the fact that the west, a number of western politicians, the media and others, blame kiev for the fact that the counteroffensive did not go according to plan, the fact is that those large-scale, ambitious goals that kiev set for this counter-offensive, practically none of these goals were achieved, and who is to blame for this, from the point of view of western, a number of western politicians, american, let’s say, parliamentarians, and some european watered, who is to blame? shifts the blame onto the ukrainian, poorly fighting ukraine, and here, well, it’s not surprising that ukrainian politicians

, in this case, use arachamia, are trying to show that this is not for russia, and even this is for the west and for part of ukrainian society, they say, it’s you , it was you who promised to help, to help help, it was you who essentially said to fight, what they could, they could save all these people, they could save their people, everyone who died there, but they twisted their arms or something make it, bitch go to the front, so what, well listen, ukraine is no secret that ukraine is a very dependent country, it depends on. the usa, it depends on some american allies, to say no, to say no , it was probably really very difficult when they come from great britain from the united states to ukraine, it’s probably possible to contradict them on some points, and i’m sure that in ukraine somewhere on some points something is simply not being met, somewhere somewhere, but

it’s probably very difficult to meet such strict requirements, but i just imagine this picture when he arrives johnson says: go fight, but the ukrainian leadership, no, we don’t want it, we want to conclude a peace agreement, don’t touch us, and johnson is so evil, he just makes people nod, vitya, they won’t, that’s the point. they won’t and can’t, i didn’t understand, you mean we’re somehow confused, it seemed to me that you said that it could be, kiev would want to. to say no, he would have said no, but he didn’t want to, no , there are two big differences, as they say in odessa, he wanted to or didn’t want to or couldn’t, but they had, they had potential, just power, to say, let’s not fight, go to hell, no, they probably didn’t have this opportunity to say, but once again, that’s not the point here, the point is that the ukrainian position then was more radical than

the pan-european one, like it remains now, on the contrary, kiev forced everyone to take the most radical position in relation to moscow. yes, there were the istanbul agreements, yes there was all this, but kiev was initially located in the country of that part of the western elite that took the most radical positions and wanted to take advantage well, he also said in this interview that they now have a very bad negotiating position, weak, they can’t start negotiations now, that is, they have now become less radical, or something? this means that arakhamia’s position , here according to johnson, everything was said correctly, regarding the referendum, the weak position, what arakhamia wants to do, arakhamia wants, on the one hand, the west to continue financing the ukrainian regime, both europe and the united states, both of them need money definitely, second point, he's trying together with part of the western elites, to drag us into negotiations, hence the referendum, they tell

us, guys, we are purely theoretical, in short, this whole thing is a signal that, in general, we are ready, this is for us, for the sake of negotiations negotiations, hence the referendum, let’s come to an agreement, then wait, then we’ll put the issue to a referendum, a 2-3 month truce is needed, and so on and so forth, in this sense, nikolayevich, about the possibility of saying no, this has just been said, this is in fact the most interesting thing is whether there was at least some, but at least a percentage, two percent chance of this whole current ukrainian comarilla, of saying the most important word in your entire life, no? we don’t see how to do this, we won’t lead people to slaughter, wait a second, on a number of provisions today, i agree with asperidon, i still propose to look at the situation a little differently, it was boris johnson who said that ukraine is preparing to produce nuclear

weapons, boris johnson, or the us president, said this. about what we are going to now donbass, we’ll kill everyone and so on, it was boris johnson who said that ukraine needed to return crimea and return to the borders of the ninety-first year, this was, uh, so to speak, the mainstream of ukrainian society and its political elites, the west supported this situation, one might say the fact that russia was provoked, or was not provoked there, is already the second question; to evaluate russian policy on the eve of, so to speak, a special military operation, we will not do that now. then for a start, at least in this

putin’s attitude was absolutely correct, but first, let them remove the law for negotiating, and this will be the best demonstration, as always, as always , everything with them is nonsense. ok, wait, we looked at this nonsense differently, like you do now... no, well, viktorich says that this is for westerners, there for part of the ukrainians, your version is most likely for the addressee, after all, ukrainians, because that everyone now yes, everyone now understands that it is possible, they have a general mindset, and this is their democracy. maybe now the boat is rocking and

it is possible to acquire a certain political capital as a counterbalance to zelensky, yes, that is, some kind of internal internal fuss begins there, and then let’s look at one more material now because we somehow coincide and that all this fuss begins exactly at the moment when the western coalition very very reluctantly begins to give money to ukraine, we constantly tell you about america these eternal graters in congress. but now let ’s turn our attention to the main european donor, germany, everything there is also very, not very. the other day, the german tabloid build, citing its sources, reported on a secret american-german plan for ukraine. he allegedly assumes that washington and berlin will delay in every possible way the supply of weapons to kiev, pushing the terrorist zelensky towards peace negotiations with russia. and the british newspaper telegraph adds that nato now considers ukraine's failed counter-offensive too... overblown. zelsky must understand that this cannot continue. he needs to turn around of his own free will. face his people and explain that it

is necessary to negotiate. at the same time, in germany itself they openly hint that they no longer want to help kiev. the day before , the bundestag said that due to the supply of weapons to ukraine, the german army, if something happened, would not last even a few days, there simply would not be enough ammunition. the german press, the publication süddoy chitsa, also became concerned. writes that germany has a hole in its budget of 60 billion euros, and there is a fear that this hole will suck in the funds that were planned to be spent on ukraine? the ukrainian army still hopes for western arms supplies to counter russian attacks, but many promises have not been fulfilled ; other european countries are calling for a change in attitude towards ukraine; the austrian foreign ministry called not to have any illusions about kiev and not to make special conditions for ukraine to join the eu. leader of the french patriot party. some experts say. this war is over.

i think they are telling him in personal conversations that it ’s all over, and he needs to leave his post with dignity and give way to someone whom the west can present as a reliable a candidate representing what will remain of ukraine. this candidate will have to discuss with russia. with russia. last saturday, he said that the country needs three victories in the west: to receive long-awaited funding from the american congress, to achieve a new package of eu sanctions against russia and to secure a bright european future for itself. this is a call, this is a challenge , this is not easy, not everything depends on us, this is a motivational step for us, it is important for all those. is it possible to try to connect all this, there is this certain one, i don’t know how much

it is a secret, american-german plan, to give weapons without the speed that they gave before, with some squeaking, going through bureaucratic procedures, they can do it all perfectly. ukraine sees this, ukraine feels it, even if it was not said directly, now mr. arakhamia appears, who says, well, in general , we are fighting because you told us to fight, and in general we would not mind holding negotiations there in istanbul , is this blackmail from that side, or is this a signal to us that let’s negotiate, because ukraine understands that it will not get better negotiating positions, the fact is that this speech by rahami, it is very interesting, it gives me the impression that this is a manifestation of slight panic, so you, within the framework of this panic , are very a lot, he personally or someone, that’s the point, it’s a mystery, because arachamia really is... schroeder is a politician with a capital letter, after all, he’s wearing a cap, well, he’s a dj, a dj, yes , that’s why he unexpectedly appears on kolomoisky’s tv channel, smoseychuk is also a popular presenter, also

kolomoisky. begins to make a lot of contradictory messages, so he not only accused johnson of starting the war, in fact, he also accused zelensky of this, zelensky could have said no, he could have, but johnson forced it, so zelsky and johnson made the war, so to speak about, but he could have said no, so wait, then the most interesting thing, the message itself is like that, it says that the message to russia is exactly bogdan a, the most interesting thing, then after all, who is panicking? , they gave him the assignment to give this interview, he went on his own, absolutely right, this remains unclear to me, but it is obvious that this group, it is panicking and panicking, obviously precisely due to the fact that ukraine is being prepared for a freeze, a gradual drain, that's it , what you described, a gradual decrease in the number of weapons, spare parts, money , it was all in south vietnam, south vietnam was abandoned, but they continued to supply it, train, but less, less, less, and less, the americans left there, as a result northern vietnam, he conquered it very quickly, in 2 years or three there , i don’t remember, he took saigon and renamed it ha chi minh, so this group of people, yes,

that’s right, this group of these people, they are clearly panicking, because that they are being pushed to freeze some world, then it’s all laid out in one story, that’s what zelsky said there about the maidan, that they want to remove him there, then it’s just all this, it’s all a puzzle that adds up a message to russia, that russia will immediately sit down with us at the negotiating table if we give it to her let’s propose, he is somewhat offensive for us, because we will not do that, we were offered, it is now beneficial for us on the contrary, how to improve our negotiating positions, and such statements about rahami, they indicate that he is not inclined to negotiate . vladim viktorich, this looks like a change of strategy, now i’m talking about the statement about rakhamiya, it’s strategy, not tactics, yes , look, if before, some kind of dizziness from success happened in ukraine among western partners, especially after the successful september counter-offensive in the past year, here in kharkov, and they also had the feeling that now if they push,

they will really... be able, to put it mildly, to strengthen their negotiating positions, after which they can already sit down with russia at the negotiating table in order to get out everything is on the borders of the ninety-first year, all questions are resolved there, and after the failed counter-offensive of this summer and this fall, western partners began to hint to their kiev friends that guys, you will no longer receive the same amount of resources, this they are both verbally and non-verbally, even without... apparently they are pushing for ukraine to bury itself in the ground, go on the defensive, now from these positions, there, firstly,

less is needed. instead of expensive equipment, you can get by with cheaper people, they still exist in ukraine, there are quite a lot of them, and if you add it all up, then only one thing is missing, to sit down at the negotiating table, in order to endlessly have drawn-out conversations about what is impossible sign an agreement on your terms, we don't trust you, but what guarantees can you give, this is all, it can drag on for years, in fact , the ukrainian authorities are now nervous like this, because they understand that for them this is absolutely utopian, this is what they are upset about, in fact, there is one person and his team - zelsky, because - western partners have already found those people with whom they interact, the same zaluzhny, who directly says that he is ready to build lines of defense in order to bury himself in the ground, it’s as if they are already with him would interact, but zelsky is nervous

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the palestinian movement. the times of israel reports that krivoy is 25 years old and has dual citizenship of russia and israel. the man worked as a sound engineer at the now infamous superova music festival, which was attacked by hamas militants on october 7. krivoy’s sister said that the russian was able to escape from the militants and for some reason he hid in a hole for a while, but then he was discovered and taken prisoner. now he has been taken to the rafah checkpoint and must return to israel. through egyptian territory. russian media say they positively assess hamas' goodwill gesture for the release of krivoy and continue to seek the release of the remaining russians. hamas began releasing captured people on november 24, after a qatar-brokered deal was reached on a four-day ceasefire. hamas, for its part , released several hostages a day, and the israelis, for their part, released prisoners, palestinian prisoners from well, in fact, today is the last fourth day

of this very truce. let me remind you that the truce agreement in exchange provides for the release of 50 israeli hostages and 150 palestinian prisoners from israeli prisons. over the previous 3 days, hamas released 39 israelis by agreement and another 19 under separate agreements, and israel, in turn, released 117 palestinian prisoners. the agreement also provides for the possibility of extending this truce in gaza, hamas will continue to release hostages, according to the turkish anadalu agency, israel demands that hamas release 10 people for each additional day of silence, the publication reports that the group seems to be ready to agree to this, while on the final day of the tsahal truce the israeli army publishes a photo report with maneuvers of israeli troops in the gaza strip, any military operations are not visible in these photographs, but it is obvious that there is a fairly confident presence of israeli soldiers in these areas, israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu, who also recently visited the gas sector, categorically says that

the war with hamas will continue. there is a plan that will release 10 people every additional day of silence, which is a blessed thing. but in the end we will return with all our strength to realize our goals - the elimination of hamas, to ensure that gas does not return to what happened there. i am confident that we will succeed in this mission, we have no other choice from the israeli military, let's still go back to the ukrainian military, these shots where the hostages are being released, when they are waving their hands to the hamas soldiers, and the masked hamas soldiers are waving their hands at the freed hostage, something somehow makes me cringe, of course from these pictures, like as if this is all , you know, well, let's see, well, stockholm syndrome, no one, yes , maybe all this will end somehow, let's go back to what interested me. to a greater extent in our conversation, i’m still trying to understand who

is panicking there, mainly because this this is probably the only thing that everyone agreed on, that this really indicates that there is some kind of confusion and vacillation in the brains of all these leaders, and it was said about the chairs that are swaying under everyone, i just want to continue this topic, because again the name of zaluzhny, the commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine, comes up, under him it is also generally obvious that his chair is wobbly or whatever he has under it, because now they have already begun to directly accuse him, that is, he now it’s not putin’s fault, not even it is not johnson, but zaluzhny, who is to blame for the fact that he simply does not understand how to conduct military operations, and so on, and so on, let me tell you now, this is from the verkhovna rada, some kind of criticism came, public, open, deputy head of the parliamentary committee on national security, the lady’s name is maryana bezuglaya, and so she said that zaluzhny does not have a clear military plan for the twenty-fourth year, so he must resign, made a reference to representatives of the ukrainian army and stated,

that zaluzhny gave the order to the military to mobilize at least 2,000 new fighters every month, because there is an acute shortage of personnel and all this has been going on since the summer, well, naturally, those around zaluzhny rejected all the accusations of this deputy head of the committee, but in the zelsky administration they also generally did not agree, they said, that the president himself recently assured that kiev has a plan to lead... she began to post cartoons there, in general , it is also clear that the girl is not speaking on her own, someone is telling her, yes, she turns the key, it fits into this story

i would like to separate them, to understand who is against whom, in what is really absolutely correct, really, excuse me, this really becomes interesting, that is, to no longer treat this like a frog. this concerns us directly, look, the fact is that, as they absolutely correctly said here, under zelensky’s command the chair is shaking, why? because in this cunning plan of the west to impose negotiations on russia for the sake of negotiations and under this sauce: even from the zaros conflict, as some here suggest, zelensky does not fit into this plan suitable, zelensky, his team, not suitable because of zelsky’s position, reinforced concrete, from the fact that, as the time wrote, he is crazy in this regard, he wants to fight to the bitter end and so on, but zaluzhny is suitable if from

what is zelsky’s team afraid of now, they are afraid that a castling will be made, forceful, electoral, any other, in which zelsky will go to the top, and zelsky will go to an unknown place, well, it’s clear where. wherever he wants, in this situation, of course, zelensky is trying to play on two points, first, they discrete as much as possible zaluzhny, why did the tame lady have the team fas, and not only her, in fact, the second is those very famous three victories of zelsky, which he designates over the west, these are three victories that will definitely be achieved, because there is so much money they will give it, and negotiations will begin on european membership, and the european union will give something, zelsky calls this a victory. and thereby wants to inspire ukrainian society, to show that it is still possible to win according to zelsky’s strategy, that is, to resist to the bitter end and survive, roughly speaking, russia, this is all happening within the framework of this single strategy, and bogdan anatorich, you believe in the danger, well, for the terrorist zelensky of this castling plan, or this castling plan exists only in

the head of the same zelensky and some of his henchmen who are simply afraid of any bush, react to any sneeze. for zelsky , a freeze or a truce is truly deadly. and that’s why he doesn’t really want to go to elections or make any possible concessions, in this regard. but i don’t believe that zaluzhny is right will replace zelsky. zelsky is now under pressure on zelensky, including the threat of such a castling, the castling can be any, with the help of elections he can be replaced, and so on. zaluzhny is simply one of the factors putting pressure on zelensky. this is the struggle, as you like the term dzhabagadyukin, someone is in the bank. i love bulldogs under the carpet and so on, but these bulldogs under the carpet, they are now messing with each other, for the west the main goal is to achieve a freeze in order to strengthen ukraine, no, just some kind of, you know, there’s constant stuffing going on, so if some time ago, ukrainian, any speakers, yes, they

really said how wonderful everything is, that now they will soon occupy belgorod, soon there the whole kuban, and now they seem to be competing to tell how bad everything is, terrible, which means that johnson, it turns out, deceived us there, betrayed us, yes, our heads don’t understand a damn thing, which means someone... then, i don’t remember, i don’t remember now, on weekends, some the ukrainian media, therefore, launched that they had more than a million dead, this is the channel, as far as i remember, kolomoy, where is it. gave an interview, that is, there are 100 million, i think they said there that it was a serviceman, it was on social networks or broadcast , in my opinion it was on the air, it was on the air, that’s why they give it, you understand, that is, everything bad, everything is bad, look, no, it’s even worse, i’m interested in this, i don’t understand why, you said that the scale is exaggerated, the scale of which is exaggerated, these dangers

for zelensky, that when it comes to zaluzhny, who was, we must not forget who was, who led? without orders from the chief of the general staff, he signed up for this, so for him this is a discrediting moment no less than for him, no less, they will always be on this, if he has any political ambitions, they will constantly remind him of this, now that regarding

the freezing, bogdan, i cannot agree with bogdan’s opinion that the west supposedly wants an immediate or rapid freezing of the conflict, even based on the domestic political agenda in the same united states, in a year there are elections in the united states, american president biden is running for re-election, he cannot allow the opposition in this case of the republican party, be it... in congress or or the person who will become the nominee of the republican party, he does not can afford to become a target for their constant attacks and accusations that he did not support ukraine enough, that he did not give enough, that ukraine asked for more, and that because of this inaction, because of the inaction of the biden administration, that allegedly ukraine did not was able, while his opponents say on the contrary, that he gives too much to who knows what ukraine, when we have israel , which is much more friendly to us, stands and asks, yes, this is the dynamics of domestic politics, criticizes, criticizes, wait, always criticizes what what can be criticized if

the united states moves ukraine towards a negotiation process with russia, some kind of freeze on the republican opposition in america will say that ukraine, so that due to a miscalculation of the biden administration, ukraine is losing, that russia is becoming stronger because of biden’s miscalculations, biden will not do this, an attempt to convert defeat on the battlefield into a political diplomatic victory for the west, it’s not only ukraine that lost, it’s the west as a whole that lost, they want now against the backdrop of rhetoric let’s sit down at the table, they want russia sell something that russia doesn’t need, but they do, and present it as a service that they supposedly provide, you know, that is, now this. in the united states

of america, he needs neither defeat nor peace, so he would gladly consolidate the current status quo, let them quietly fight there, but no one would go anywhere, no one would defeat anyone. but leaving the war uncontrolled is a very big risk. successful offensive, this could become a potential and so on for a catastrophe, so it is better to put this conflict on pause, but this does not mean at all that there will be peace, this conflict will be put on pause with the right to then intensify hostilities after they resolve everything their tasks, that’s what they’ll try to sell us today, you know, a good offer, not completely, i would leave america out of the picture for now, because she also

doesn’t understand very well what she is doing, and i would pay attention to the following, you correctly said that this is a struggle - spiders in a bank, here is a struggle of spiders in a bank for financial flows , for help, and in short for power and corruption, there is one more point that aggravates, if you agree, maybe another factor is the struggle for personal physical existence, including this, that is, it may also be there, in including if we talk about the second echelon, to which belong to many of my friends, this is a struggle for the positions that they received , so i see how they have advanced compared to the pre-war period, but that is not the point, the point is that our fortune-telling does not make the slightest sense, arahami.

anyone, there is no connection between what they are saying now and what will be implemented in the event of their political internal victory, i understand this, just remember the photographs, they don’t know what they will offer, the situation does not stem from political will and from political beliefs, but from the struggle for power and corrupt interests, and if they understand that their struggle for power and their corrupt interests correspond to the exact opposite political position, they will replace it in one day, but what should we do now, actually not discuss, or what? no , discuss, you say that it doesn’t make sense , these years of ours can be done as much as you like, but you need to understand that you can replace zaluzhny with zelsky and back, but realistically. changing places in the terms from changing beds in brothels will turn out like this vladimir, well, what about you it turns out that everything is different, because you

see changes in strategy here, yes, yes, that means it exists. some kind of understanding, i agree with alexander nikolaev from the point of view of the fight for - positions of power there and so on, etc., yes, but they have those watching who just won’t let them fight, they will still put forward conditions and, apparently, we are again we return to the fictitious boris johnson who will come and say something fictitious boris johnson and how was it that there was an opinion that their positions were initially more radical than in the west, in general, they themselves are almost everything. and i already mentioned this dizziness from success, well, that is, at some point they really believed that they were able to - an unprepared russian army, which in february, again according to the same arahami , entered the territory unprepared ukraine, that they had the opportunity to overcome it, to come out on the border in 1991, to become a member of the north atlantic alliance, the european union, that’s it

, the whole dream has come true, but nothing like that has happened now... we need something drastic to change, that’s the first thing, that there will be changes in the faces, or will these changes be the same persons who at first, and now will be to the left, from the view of washington, now zelensky is a loser, and losers in american culture, what difference does it make, zelensky, therefore a loser needs to be removed, and the person whose name is associated with the successful kharkov counter-offensive must be launched, this is a loser, and this is a winner, but also a failed counter-offensive. this does not need to be taken into account and does not need to be remembered, it can be chalked up to the one who is a loser, let us now we’ll take a break, just literally a few words, alexander nikolaevich, you are still the number one figure, the audience who come to my concerts, first of all, hello to you, respect for the uncompromisingness of your position, i wrote the following in the city of balakova, which means andrey vladivich , tell the gentleman, yes, in saratovskaya, i had two concerts, balakova and sarattov, so say hello

to sittin, then it was said that a person changes before our eyes. you see, after finishing his studies, he will fall in love with russians, i say, well, i i’ll tell you, although it’s unlikely, i think that after the end of mine, i’ll return to the russians, and that is , you’ll remove the russians, okay, let’s take a break, now we’ll continue, we’ll return according to tradition to our internal problems, don’t leave , please, avatar show, new season, sunday at 20:20 on ntv. a loan with cashback from sber is even more opportunities, because every month you will get 2% of the rate back with sber bonuses, thank you, hurry up to get a loan with cashback, it’s more profitable in sberbank with prime, black friday is on horizon, whistle everyone for the ozone sale , buy, buy, quietly speaking buy, are you ready for big discounts, but then everything is on

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to talk about proposals, changes in legislation on foreign agents, well, now a few words about my adventures, impressions to our such an honorary foreign agent alexander nikolai, we can foreign this is almost considered on our program, yes, i conveyed your wish, but as usual there were a lot of disputes there about mr. fodorov, this time something went to someone else, not today’s guest evgenia alekseevich, yes, yes, no, evgey alekseevich hasn’t typed yet, i brought something, from who, who was there today, we just now decided to move all these gifts to the beginning of the second hour, so i honestly , here i am showing you, yes, here is what you gave to gevorg mirzayan, he is there behind the scenes waiting for us for his gift, and i am waiting right here, listen, here is a modest man, trushkin, what do you need a calendar for, a simply enchanting calendar, for unfold it, show it, oh, just imagine, people were sitting here,

did, lord, so that i can hang this from you in my office, many many photographs , and don’t leave again, no, this is also yours, this thing was specially brought from canada for you, to moscow, a person, a woman, a spectator, specially flew from moscow to saratov, then... that she didn’t have time, here , let’s play out an intrigue with this now, there’s this piece of paper, now i ’ll show you, you see what’s written here, please read it in your own voice, this is the best thing in canada, what's there, how are you you think that the best thing is our people who are ready to fly in and give me something, but nevertheless, this is of course not a piece of human flesh, here you go, this is the famous canadian maple syrup, some kind of straight, straight, well, i i’ll put it here for now, so friends, we still have three more opportunities to meet with you this year, accordingly, you can convey something like this to your favorite guests or presenters, which means december 2 this saturday, this is the ulyanovsk

patriot center, 6 december moscow club magnus locus, but in general it’s too late to buy anything there, and december 16, volgograd house of officers, come, because then we will have a pause until january, so now we move on to our foreign representatives, and we move on to this topic, directly... immediately the news part, through the news part, because just today for the moskvaretsky court of moscow decided to refuse the comedian foreign agent ruslan bely, his request to remove this foreign agent status from him. according to the ministry of justice , it has been established that comics is engaged in political activities, holds concerts at foreign venues, and forms negative political views regarding the conduct of the svo, the lawyer denied that foreign agent bely received funds from foreign sources. but the court found that only from march to april of this year the comedian received 160,000 rubles of foreign origin. the court also took into account the fact that bely actively communicates, actively cooperates with other foreign agents, helps them create

their foreign agent materials, in particular, he recently gave an interview to blogger irina shikhman, and there white complained about life, he has to work a lot, they pay in europe much less than at home, and so on and so on. i will try to make every effort, but i... have a feeling that, let’s say, there will be some kind of increase in popularity or a jump in popularity while being outside of russia. it will be very, very difficult for the russian-speaking public in europe, i think, probably, i’m on the way to some kind of downward trend in my career. former russian prime minister mikhail kasyanov also broke his silence, a freshly baked ongent, he became one only last friday, so he gave an interview much the more experienced agent evgeniy kiselyov generally admitted that all the claims of the ministry of justice against kosyanoy, they essentially have a place and are absolutely truthful.

no offense, they designated or declared an agent due to the fact that i support, i am a member of the anti-war committee, i condemn the war against ukraine, which means i communicate with other foreign agents, so i am against the regime and so on, yes, this is all true, but i also since i’m saying that i see this as an admission that we are actually harmful to this regime, well, let’s have other agents, other agents let's add some news to the collection, nadezhda tolokonnikov, you may remember her from the memorable punk prayer in the cathedral of christ the savior, also a foreign agent, she got into a very big scandal after our pranksters vavan and lexus got through to her, they talked to her from the face of the terrorist president zelensky , tolokonnikov in particular in this conversation, thinking that he was talking with the terrorist zelensky, admitted that she personally participated in collecting money for the armed forces to help

civilians, she declared at every corner then that she is a pacifist and all that, and the fugitive foreign agent sent almost all of the 7 million dollars in donations to the front. for her revelation, talokonnikova was persecuted by her own curators and subscribers, saying that she did not live up to the trust, and in general deceived everyone and talked about the anti-war nature of the action , and this is how it happened. nownikova complains that because of all these negative comments, she... perhaps she will soon collect some more donations so that there is money for this doctor. i'm with the news foreign agency news, as vanya said, so now let ’s move on to such foreign agency analytics, this is a slightly theoretical question, because the proposal is to tighten the legislation in this area, they do not disappear, if we look at the ministry’s figures. that at the moment, well, there

are a little more than 700 foreign agents, and this list, these 700 positions, includes both individuals and legal entities, that is, all sorts of organizations. we still have the opportunity by law to remove ourselves from our anagent status, again according to statistics ministry of justice, a little more than 600, in my opinion, such positions were excluded from this register, that is. 600, sixty, sixty, i said 600, no-no- 64, something like that, yes, yes, yes, ah, and i repeat again, it means that it’s still a proposal to tighten the law in this part, they don’t disappear, we decided to talk about this topic today, starting from the following informational occasion, we showed it to you last week, i don’t remember now which one, well, in the news, when dmitry muratov, a foreign agent, was a laureate.

nobel peace prize, former editor-in-chief of the new newspaper, and the new newspaper as a media outlet in our country, as far as i remember, it was liquidated, but i don’t remember it as an agent as a media outlet, in my opinion, in general, in short, he tried through the court to remove himself this status, nothing worked out for him, well, let's see, last week the moskvorets court in moscow refused to satisfy the claim of the former editor-in-chief of novaya gazeta dmitry muratov to exclude him from the list of foreign agents. the ministry of justice explained that the journalist was giving an interview foreign structures from unfriendly countries, and muratov’s statements formed a negative image of russian policy. the former editor-in-chief of the new newspaper himself believes that all his statements are constitutional and in general he is a patriot of his country. there was no claim that i came under foreign influence, and the ministry of justice has no claims regarding their content. the fact that these were

youtube channels, for example, docha velli, which were recognized as a foreign agent. recently , the minister of justice, konstantin, commented on the lawsuit by muratov and other foreign agents chuychenko. according to him, all those who challenged their status did not say that they were acting in the interests of russia and that they were against foreign influence. instead, foreign agents disputed only formal legal issues. at the same time, chuychenko believes. that recognition as an alien does not mean prosecution, and therefore when challenging the status, the rules of the game of administrative criminal law do not work. i would also like to draw your attention to the fact that all the essays they say refer to procedural issues, no one said that that excuse me, you misjudged my activities, i am for russia, i am against foreign interference, everything i do serves the interests of russia. previously

, musicians alisher margenstern and zimfira, maxim galkin, as well as blogger ilya varlamov tried to challenge the status of a foreign agent, however, as in the case of muratov, they were unsuccessful. nevertheless. some manage to get off the ministry of justice list. at the end of october, the department reported that 64 legal entities and individuals were excluded from the register of foreign agents. they according to the conclusion of the ministry of justice, they lost contact with western beneficiaries, along with this, the status of inogen. so, i once again, here probably more for myself , for clarity and for understanding, i want to repeat the phrase that was uttered by the minister of justice, konstantin chuychenko, which means that recognition as an alien agent does not mean prosecution , that is, criminal liability , a person is not sent to prison, so where is nikolai vladimirovich, that is, can i assume, in this case, that - assigning the status of inaugt - this is such an ideological

punishment for a person, and is it necessary then, since somehow all this is being proposed, this ideological punishment should be made completely understandable to everyone. criminal? well, my answer to both questions is yes, well, that is, yes, this means, as i say, a stigma of shame, meaning that a person is anti-state, a stigma of shame - this is a bad person, maybe even very bad, but this is not means that he should be put in prison for this, we won’t put him in prison yet, for now, but why then are you suggesting, if, again, according to our law, the minus provides for a procedure removing this, that is, organization. well, i’m kind of like, but you’re shepherding them all, but why are you shepherding, you can start with property, they make money in russia, well, stop earning money, well, you kind of decide whether you’re for russia or against russia, if you’re against russia,

then what to earn in russia, earn outside of russia, and live with the status of a foreign agent forever, well, there should be some kind of logic , that is, i, well, that is, you lack consistency, it turns out that you would like something more understandable, but harsh definitely sucked sorry. why is this, well, why is it just that initially, when we adopted the law on foreign agency, we said that this is not some kind of repressive measure, not a stigma, we simply inform our citizens that among our citizens there are people who are under foreign influence, well, people should take this into account, and if we say, because being under foreign influence, this appeared only later in subsequent ranks, first there in general. i was describing the general situation, it was just then there was information, now from what chuychenko says, it turns out that this is such , well, yes, you said it correctly, an ideological story, and in order to leave this agent status, a person must repent, a person must say i am a patriot, repent,

go to the ne zones , they listened to a fair russia, now they are united, you support what is needed here, i am generally a lawyer, a scientist, while on social networks i am always in military uniform, you are our lieutenant colonel, i am a reserve colonel, afghanistan, engaged in science, state deputy, former by the way, he will close the apparatus of the defense council of the russian federation, so for me the military topic is applied nuclear energy, which was, as you understand, a nuclear complex, so i deal with these issues professionally, but now let’s return to our law. the law says not only this, it says that a foreign agent cannot engage in public service and activities , this is actually the main element of the law, another thing is that the law itself, it has not yet been fully implemented, because according to

according to the law, you know who is a foreign agent, someone, for example, who received organizational and methodological assistance from the united states, and you know how many such people, only under the program of leaders who were trained in washington by order of the united states of america for their money, only under this program 84,000 people, so when you get hooked, you offer everyone, these are those who received money from the united states for political activities in russia, have status for life, according to american laws, should they receive funds, and this is not just like that, he is in any moment he will go to the embassy, ​​receive new money for politics, in fact, we are just approaching the main system of agents , right now, there are only organizations and ordinary people there, only 700 people, you named the figure 84 thousand, you just got the american one to see it, say, that our ministry of justice is moving too slowly, and you suggest that it speed up, ten, a hundred times, in order

to catch all these bad people, in your opinion , it’s not by chance that i named the word science before they catch it, yes, from the point of view of science, in what state russia is, russia is restoring the fatherland, its freedom and independence, the most important element , which is to remove foreign agents, including from the system of power, it ’s impossible to do without it, so the law is immediately designed for the entire course, another thing is that we are not yet ready to fully develop it here now, although the text already allows us to do this, so okay, maxim anatolyevich, you somehow became depressed, not just depressed, i was freaking out, you know, here’s another time, well that's why that the plot is yours, but under foreign influence, we will decipher this a little later , but you understand, and i literally understand this, what foreign influence means, here i am a journalist... an international affairs specialist, i need to prepare properly for your program

, i need to read, i will not only read that, no, i will read western newspapers , for example, to find out what is happening now in the middle east, i will read israeli and iranian sites, but then i am under foreign influence, or that, what about dmitry muratov now, and they blamed him for giving interviews to, well , whatever the media is like. from unfriendly states, wow, and i know that foreign ministry representatives give interviews with us from unfriendly states to explain the position of the russian federation, which means the law needs to be changed a little, because it needs to be made clearer, that’s right, i think that in general there are no such there should be no laws, can i clarify, maxim anatorich, but you don’t feel the difference between what you do, how you speak, how you communicate, and what dmitry did.

you don’t feel this difference, you don’t understand why you aren’t in muratov’s place, just to your eyes, i listened to muratov’s speech when he received his prize, the nobel peace prize, there was nothing criminal there, and it seems to me that the answer to the progentom was recognized for the fact that he received the nobel prize, i’m asking you a person with vast media experience, a person, it seems to me, with analytical skills, i ’m asking you, but you really don’t see the difference between what you do, how you say, as you prepare, this is what muratov does, he does something like that, why he is an inogen, maxim anatelich.

well, maybe you and i, we are probably people, answer the question, according to this shatkomt, he’s got his head in the works, you know, when i communicate with foreign ambassadors, i have dinner with them, if you listen to what i say, maybe something... then 100% it won’t seem so invisible , because you need to speak their language in order to get more information. it seems to me that too many people should not walk under the sword of domocles, because on friday they opened the news if they see the name of a friend of one of theirs on the list of foreign agents, it seems to me that now it has become redundant, five or six people must be included there every day, everything is fine, stop. i should have used eloquence a little earlier. lesya, before the interview you had a very harsh phrase

: these people, as i understand it, you mean everyone, these are the foreign agents. they made their choice, the choice of their homeland, and this is not russia, in general, for you, everything seems to be not clear at all , absolutely, it was still clear for 10 years ago, 12 years ago, well, you worked undercover then, as we know, yes, but nevertheless, this position, you don’t think that’s your position. she’s too tough, no, i know these people very well and i know perfectly well, well, of course, my job is the same, here a person studies foreign media, and i study people from the inside, as they say, i mean, we can pretend as much as you like, as if these people didn’t say or do anything bad, but at the same time we all know perfectly well what the new newspaper lived and worked on, we all we know very well what kind of claims are made against murat and so on, great. i think that power,

as i see it, i don’t know. and we have, as it were, murderers, you know, they are at a certain lower level, putin still always says that russia loves its people, we are ready to forgive, we are orthodox and we are with him, so there is some kind of middle ground, yes this lawmaker, that you can, in principle , repent and return to the country, but what is happening now with people who are trying to challenge the status of foreigner is not repentance, simply because they continue receive the same money, and the only thing that incites them to argue with this status is their own... business located in our country, and here, as a colleague said, they all continue to earn money here in russia and they are afraid that all these financial flows will be closed, that they will not be able to pump this money through the west for the curators of their volunteers there, who are still sitting in russia, and in order for this situation to somehow actually be clamped down, it is not necessary to clamp down, but it is necessary to bring bring some logic, let's ask

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this is the meeting place on ntv, the place where everything becomes clear, we continue, to the law on foreign agents, which we just mentioned, there are claims, as they say, from both sides, and from the side, of course, maxim anatolvich, that this law is unnecessary, that in general it is not needed. and in general it is not clear what the status is and on the other side, who says that status is not enough, it needs to be tightened, it needs to be limited, well, something like nikolai vladimir, let us listen to these proposals for restrictions, at the end of last week the russian ministry of justice announced that they will begin to fine for mentioning foreign agents without the appropriate markings, first of all, they are going to take a closer look at persons affiliated with foreign agents, that is , those who have not yet received foreign agent status, but clearly sympathize with them, so fines... 3,000 to half a million rubles may not be forthcoming only the media, but for example bloggers.

these are ordinary people who intentionally or unintentionally help or somehow support foreign agents, any channel shows, for example, mr. galkin, but forgot to label it, books are the same, they call for tougher laws in relation to the foreign agents themselves, recently a leading fighter detachment of the forces of good, vitaly borodin addressed the chairman of the state duma vyacheslav. entry into the country for russians and agents. the document was published in one of the telegram channels. according to borozin, figures art, athletes and journalists who left the country continue anti-russian activities and pro-western propaganda. the state duma responded by reminding that the proposal to ban such people from entering the country is contrary to the constitution. we have the constitution of the russian federation. this is the main, fundamental law. when we pass federal laws, we must remember this; according to the constitution, any citizen of russia, if he has no problems with the law, can freely leave and freely enter the territory of the country. there are more

bold initiatives. recently , social activists from the call of the people organization demanded that the prosecutor general’s office, the investigative committee and the ministry of culture recognize the bedwa group as sponsors of terrorism and take away all their property in russia. the reason was allegedly the statements of the band's lead singer against the agent yegor bortnik, aka. in support of ukraine, after the outbreak of war, the bedva released a lullaby composition, which the musicians themselves later called the main anti-war song. the animal world is under pressure, the deputy chairman of the state duma committee on security anatoly vyborny. according to him . offenses in this area are becoming more and more sophisticated and the state needs, quote: to strengthen the punitive policy, and earlier the fund for the protection of national historical heritage

demanded that russian passports be taken away from foreign agents; the head of the organization, alexander karabanov, made such a request to vladimir putin. a foreign agent is a status very similar to the one that was assigned to enemies of the people in soviet times, that is, in fact , it is an enemy who is located inside the country, has in russia and at the same time, in accordance with the constitution of russia, receives various rights, benefits, and cash benefits. david alekseevich, i will assume that you tell me what all these proposals are. surrovy or maybe insufficient, it is necessary to revive the holy inquisition, burn them at the stake, no, not ours, you understand what’s the matter, the russian writer alexander herzon said that love for the motherland does not have to be extended to its government, all these people, to my own, patriots of russia, and what about the russian writer alexander hertsin, this is my role model, i

owes it to him. not recognized as an alien agent, i’m quoting russian, well, he’s a good person , there’s a writer there, and in general a good person , please remind me what the russian writer alexander hertson did with his serfs, what nikolai nekrasov did with his creeps, he didn’t just lose at cards, what lev nikolaevich tolstoy did with his wife when she was pregnant again, forced her to jump from the closet to cause what you are bringing to me now. these, according to our constitution, which the deputy just referred to, censorship is prohibited by the constitution, every a citizen of the russian federation has the right to express his attitude towards political figures who are at the helm of our state, he does not have the right, although all this

is listed in the criminal code, freedom of speech, freedom of self-disagreement in the russian federation has not been canceled, people have the right to express their disagreement, here you are expressing your dissenting opinion, and you can somehow characterize the status of the agent. what is he like now, someone says that this is a status comparable to an enemy of the people, well , i don’t know, someone says that, well, that’s it a warning to a person who has stepped on some kind of slippery slope, as the ministry of justice believes, in order to wave his hand and say, my friend , come on, but your colleague, mr. norkin, just said that this is an ideological bogeyman, this is ideologically my colleague, as far as i remember, did not use , he said that this is an ideological tool, he asked

a question, if i remember correctly, what is happening on our air is not very old, my memory still works, while in america there is a law called headlight, we are now separately let's talk, let's talk now next, it seems to me that there is no need for legislators, regarding the fact that making money in russia, i understand that the state called the russian federation says, ivan ivanovich ivanov: we won’t hire you for government agencies, we won’t pay you state money, well if you already have the right to pay him money. they won't ask you, they will ask you. i ’m like you, if only you knew me better,

at least as you would know vanya. that i don’t say the word bug on air, i’d rather say screwed something up or something like that, so don’t knock me down, as soon as i heard from david alekseevich about hertzin , he immediately jumped off this topic, i realized that you, david alekseevich, are now going to overwhelm us a little, now let's try there, i never jump off anything, i'm straight as a sleeper or as rails, so that's what mr. shneiderov told us, yes, if the pathos is a little like this... sweep away, yeah, dmitrivach , a question for you, specifically as a lawyer, is there - well, there’s some kind of contradiction, maybe a legal one, you know, it’s like we’re saying that according to the constitution people have the right to their statements, that’s true, that’s the way it is, here ’s another confirmation for you, despite the fact that when we start talking

about foreign agents, this is where complications begin for us, because many of these people don’t just say, this is how we should behave with these then, that is, with each one differently, we don’t just have to mix everything into one pile, i wish we could do it no no it’s just that everything is mixed together, i would like emphasize that the law on the control of persons under foreign influence is not a police law, it is not repressive, it merely explains who the means are. there is some complexity, but there is a simple, clear position like lisya’s, this is a traitor, no. the attitude towards a traitor must be appropriate, there is a corresponding article 275 of the criminal code, yes, this law , i will say again, it is not repressive, it is not repressive, these are the proposals that were made here, some are not very

reasonable, some are institutions, now, but some are reasonable, i’ll start with the reasonable ones, the proposal to punish for dragging materials created by an agent without marking, it is completely logical, because in this way someone can create, then distribute through some third parties, for this it is necessary to tighten up what i have to then, excuse me, learn it by heart, okay, i have it, so far there are 700 of them, we can still cope, and when there are more of them, or if there are 700 of them, if there are still 700, we can still cope somehow, yes, and if there are more of them, that's what mr. fedov says, they'll take everyone who receives grants and what is called kovrov we are this i will get tired of remembering, i will only keep the names of foreign agents in my head, it will be a bit difficult. point of view, there, now are times when you need to exercise some caution , watch what you drag, so i, for example , see foreign materials without any markings, just by emotional presentation, here is a yellow star on the chest, that’s right, what does the yellow star have to do with it , and

what does herzon have to do with it, you are trying to use positive symbols with negative connotations, like now israel, they put on a yellow star over there, let’s try something without them without the yellow ones, let’s just talk. by the way, the president constantly talks about this - this is a person, gentlemen, please, this is a person who has already been punished, and we perceive him as punished, or this is a person whom the state has warned everyone else with a certain color. and is it necessary to somehow bring all this into one thing? well , thanks to some deputies of the state duma, it turns out that we don’t need foreign agents to undermine legislative framework, this is really the law in order to label, and

you understand that you are reading the material of a person affiliated there, but these statements, yes, this is an enemy of the people, causes a stigma and an attempt to broadcast somewhere into historical memory, that under stalin such people were generally shot, yes, that’s why it’s just public speakers. sociologists , political scientists, you name it, there are actually people there who can produce content with foreign money, that’s absolutely right, you watch it, that’s it there are people, for example, the levvada center , well, it’s just an organization that, yes, yes, yes, we use their sociology, because it is really adequate, good, it has been used for years, why this marker. yes, yes, why this marker, they are the enemies of the people, because only they are connected with some kind of foreign intelligence services and other things, that is , this is just rhetoric, it largely undermines the effect of the law that vladimir putin speaks about, that indeed in america the law is absolutely the same, only

there it is executed normally, and there is a transparent legal framework, your proposal on how to make sure that the foreign agent livada center is not in the same barrel with a foreign agent, some singer, because for me, to be honest with you, it seems to me that even if...' claims against levada center against this singer, when they are all in one barrel, it’s difficult for me to sort all this out even as a journalist. three, three absolutely, the first is a transparent mechanism for prescribing the nanoagent and exiting the agent, that is, directly the first, lack of funding there, the availability of funding, second, the implementation of activities, what kind of activity, and that is, how we label it, the ministry of justice has now begun to decipher at least a little, but in general, what the person was appointed for, when the law was just being passed, it was generally not clear for what, every friday there was such a drum, you know, who really wants to stop mixing everything up publicly, calling agents traitors, enemies of russia there, and so on and so forth, then we will understand that there is a law, this is not done by the ministry of justice, this is done caring people or activities, who

believe that this marker is not enough and that a redder dot needs to be added. the russian federation can openly directly say that it is not for him, and mrs. lesya ryabtseva cannot directly call these people traitors, apparently she has some other russian passport, and then what are you throwing now, i’ll give a specific example. traitors, fools, whatever you want, this is name-calling, but when you say, let's.

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this is the meeting place on ntv, the place where everything it becomes clear, let us continue, well, let us compare our current law with the one that was once adopted in '. for almost 100 years, because from time to time we try to do this, show us the story, please, at the end of last year a new law on the activities of foreign agents came into force in russia. now a foreigner can be a person or legal entity who has not only received foreign support and finance, but is under foreign influence. savfedi explained that such tough measures are a response to external threats. as a national interest, number one in the new foreign policy concept is written down, i quote. protection of the constitutional order, sovereignty, independence and territorial integrity of the russian federation from destructive foreign influence. when adopting the law on foreign agents, russia relied on western experience; a similar law has been in place in the united states since 1938. but here, as they say, there are nuances.

initially, the identification of injectants in america was part of the fight against nazi propaganda. after world war ii tasks changed. in this way, the us authorities... identify lobbyists for foreign interests who have not officially registered with the local ministry of justice. they face either a large fine - $250,000, or up to 5 years in prison, but first the ministry of justice must prove in court that the person or organization receives funding from abroad. last year , they tried to recognize the son of the us president, hunter biden, as an foreign agent under this scheme for his connections with ukraine, but this story was quickly hushed up. he went to jail for violating it. and now look at hunter biden's laptop, there is a ton of evidence of wrongdoing, but it's unclear whether the department of justice wants to apply equal justice to hunter, as they did with manofort? our ministry of justice reported in april that the number of foreign agents in the united states is almost nine times greater

than in russia, but according to western journalists, there are significant differences between the russian and american versions of the law. in the usa , it doesn’t hurt to work for agents either. in russia the law of agents was adopted in 2012 over the years it has been expanded to suppress any voices those who criticize the government, label people, any blogger or media in russia can be recognized as a foreign agent, this is how the american law was mentioned, i heard you scream from your seat that it is completely different, so which one is tougher than ours? or here they are, tougher, of course, american ones, but look, our law has a very specific goal for the purposes of state building, our law has the task of dragging foreign agents away from politics in the state, by the way, when they refer to our experience there in the thirties of the last century, there it was decided

repression, the position of the president is not repression, solve the problem, remove from the russian government policy the system of external control of the influence of the country, that very unipolar world, remember, one center of power, one center of decision-making washington, dc, therefore for us the law is absolutely specific, intermediate in time, his task to achieve a result fits into the general concept, which includes the constitutional reform, the past popular vote and even the northern military district, as a military component of the restoration of freedom and independence of the fatherland, you understand, yes, that is, exactly as always in our history, this is a science, maybe mr. lawyer will explain the meaning of the words:

he participates in the formation of public opinion for foreign tasks, he is part of a foreign project, therefore a foreign agent, for this reason, as soon as he will cease to be this part, this status of problems will be removed from him, the second we find out that he is part of a foreign project, and what this foreign agent, well, conventionally the same leva bi2, since we remembered him, must do, to get out of this, this project, to make a public apology. for this there is a special body under the designation of the ministry of justice, you are a legislator, you tell me, the ministry of justice, which weighs all these factors, that is, it studies the issue, raises materials of influence, financing, answers, requests and makes a decision, and as soon as, he said correctly, the minister, and as soon as the specified entity ceases to be

an element of external process management, it is difficult, with simple examples, who and what some? this leva bedva, as you say, since we remembered him, as far as i know, i read, he officially forbade yulia checherina to perform the song my rokol, once beidva and checherina. has the right to ban yulia checherina for her civic position, for her support of a special military operation from performing this song, it seems to me, from the point of view of the law, probably somehow not, and here the company reeks a little of some bad foreign influence.

in the united states - this is a very common thing, in the same congress there are, therefore, congressmen, it is implied in the form of a punishment of imprisonment, we just gave you an example, does your remark then mean that this is a good law. we must somehow also focus on this and put our agents in prison, no, i didn’t say it, it’s logical, i wouldn’t mind if it was also used here, there are some experts, including on television, and everything is fine know that they are associated with one of the transcaucasian states, and if it were written simply associated with one of the transcaucasian states, so do certain conclusions, as it were, that this person says, i think you too, when you discuss, well, you choose experts, there is an arab-israeli conflict, you also think someone is connected or not connected, just a small

mark, if it is really proven that there is between this, there are financial relations between this person and a certain state, but this is not prohibited, they pay taxes on this, for politics, as for what we have, well, it has a much wider application, you know, as it is now. they offer from 300 to 500,000 and here i am now i thought, chichvarkin is a foreign agent, he made such a statement, there is no greater gift for kremlin propaganda, when people repost all this, does it really mean that each of them, even if he forgets at this moment, or maybe doesn’t know, by the way, that

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