goods from - i don’t know, counterfeit goods, falsified goods, from the delivery of basically defective goods, well, and also make sure that the goods do not rise in price, yes, so that the goods do not rise in price, i think the law will be like this , which, as far as possible, will suit all parties, and the marketplaces will still have to agree with their owners and management that there will be such a law, that it is necessary, well , they will just have to learn to work in new conditions, in conditions where there is a normative one. victor ilyanevich, thank you thank you very much for the conversation, and thank you for inviting us regularly.

hello, it’s a decade of science and technology in russia. the ntv television company and the state corporation orosatom present a program, science and a program about how science will change our lives in the next 10 years, i am vladimir antokhin, yakaterina shugaeva. in 10 years, science will defeat hatred. well, i would really like this, so that at least science would defeat hatred, because somehow it is becoming more and more, so i invited optimists who believe that in 10 years science indeed. hatred will win, this is andrey novikov, lonskoy, cultural scientist and writer, good evening, and irina kolabikhina, demographer, economist, hello, as per tradition, my guests are skeptics, this is sergey yanikolopov, psychologist, good evening, and ivan yurov, geneticist, good evening, evening, good evening, at the end of the program our optimist guests will make a forecast with what probability in 10 years science will defeat hatred, our expert, professor kapustin, will tell about the history of hatred. hatred is an ancient, quite venerable mechanism of generation.

many of our immediate ancestors survived precisely at the expense of it, including some desperate half-wilders who entered into a battle with some furry and sable-toothed creature, who had won a cozy cave from him on the eve of a cold snap. since ancient times , humanity has been divided into friends and foes. the easiest way was to endow yourself with positive qualities. and negative ones of their enemies. this was distributed not only to people, but to their patrons, the gods. this was the case before darwin. his concept of the origin of man from animals, through selection, turned the whole world upside down. instead of the divine act of creation, mother nature, in all her ugliness, took the stage. so hatred is evolutionarily developed and fixed. a completely biochemically

described reaction of an organism, an individual, or even a group of individuals to a complex of external conditions. hatred, like all other evolutionarily fixed findings, has an important adaptive significance, otherwise it really simply wouldn’t exist anymore. you see, this is evolution, and you want to get rid of hatred? well, let's figure it out how we generally need it, this evolution. like this , but i have a personal question for you, have you ever just hated, just like that, got angry, angry, i’m just not sure that being angry and angry is just hatred, yeah, and you, man, i’m a big, very kind person, therefore very kind, so i hope not, andrei anatolyevich, but what did a person learn to do before?

love or hate, and how did philosophers explain what hatred is? well, it’s hard for me to judge what happened back then in the ancient times time, we have no evidence or anything like that, but it seems to me quite obvious that love and hate are, in general, two sides of the same coin, such a reversal that we all observe, but it’s not just that they say that from love to hate one step, well, this is enshrined in all proverbs, in all cultures, it is obvious that this is the case, but in ancient times... it was, of course, also noticed that the same, let’s say, i don’t know, aristotle, uses the word pathos, that is, passion in greek, but to describe both love and hatred, yes, that is, there is a certain passion, but how it will turn out, with what sign it will be, is another question, well, of course, happy, this is the ancient time, when the ancients simply formulated the first categories, the first concepts, it was important for them to simply define , what it is to introduce some kind of system, that is

, it was important to understand how love differs from friendship, and for them, of course, love and friendship are primary, and hatred as the absence of love and friendship is secondary, this is a kind of absence, although it’s interesting who came up with this, why, if you say correctly, love and hatred are practically two sides of the same coin, who came up with the idea that love is something positive, and hatred, one side is more important than the other, and they came up with, well, i don’t know, on the other hand that but gyroclite, we all know this phrase, about what says that war is the father of all things, that is , war as a collision, yes, that is, there must be some kind of energy, like life. a force that is born from a collision, a collision is precisely based on rejection, on hatred, on struggle, yes, that too, so they tried to understand it all then, but, but it was already clear to them that, that the very idea of ​​passion, passion, pathos, and

what is primary, and how it manifests itself later is another question, then, by the way, they were it is important to distinguish a person from animals, yes , that is, they compared the aggression of animals, and the hatred of a person, that is, this is the opposition, why animals behave this way, why people behave differently , this is emphasized to them all the time, and it is curious that, that i i don’t know, the same aristotle always tries to find rational explanation of hatred, that is, that is, we hate for some reason, that is, there must be some justification for hatred, then i don’t know, in the 19th, in the 20th century with psychoanalysis after dostoevsky freud, yes, we we understand that there can be irrational hatred, but this is not a question for the ancients, the ancients tried to find logic in everything. yes. irina evgenievna, is hatred an individual feeling or is it still a group, collective feeling? alone with yourself on the island, will you hate something? you can hate yourself, but i would

in the topic of hatred, i wanted to focus on such group hatred, now this is a very important issue in the world, because we already count so many varieties of group hatred that there are not enough fingers on one hand, this is race, this is nationality, that is, motive according to which we may have prejudices and, accordingly , hatred, race, nationality, gender , age, political beliefs, religious beliefs, disability and so on too, wealth-poverty, yes wealth, poverty, different social groups, too - too so to speak, a large list of reasons. in most countries, in legal practice there is such an approach, so to speak: if it is proven that a crime is committed on the basis of prejudice based on hatred, then this is an aggravating circumstance,

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in the next 10 years, in 10 years science will defeat hatred. the main source of hatred was discovered by our expert, professor kapustin. do good out of evil, because there is nothing else to do with it. the word hate as well its multilingual analogues carry different semantic meanings. in russian, the word hate is. three basic meanings: anger, disgust, dislike. hatred is a negative, destructive feeling of hostility towards a person or group of people. by the way, the word heit, which has become popular in our time, from the word “heiat” is used by less than 1% of the population. we are now seeing hate taking over the internet, especially on social media. although... it is very easy to stop hatred on the internet, because it is enough to deactivate all accounts

these scoundrels. by the way, it’s really surprising , but social networks are not a source of love, a source of hatred, apparently they make more money from hatred, i don’t know, well , we’ll just discuss this today, of course, ivan eoryevich, look, some people say that they hate snakes , it seems to me that they are simply afraid of them, but for example, i don’t understand the difference yet, so tell me, how does science today explain what hatred is, and where does it come from in general? anyway, why does it exist? well, here we need to consider several options, so to speak, hatred, i’ll probably portray it better, but can i take the beauty with me? try, try, try, i can, yeah, so, well, in general, look, this can be depicted using a graph, here, so to speak, people, let’s draw a graph like this, those who remember mathematics well,

this normal distribution, well, here we will depict, so to speak, emotionless people who generally... do not react to anything, that is, here we have emotions, yes emotions, yes, here we will depict people, of which there is a constant change, yes, this group of people, like this group of people, this is determined by genetics, but what interests us most of all is ordinary people, well, there are two options, the first option is, let’s say, a normal reaction, yes, that is , you don’t... arises at that moment as a response to some situation, the situation has passed, you no longer hate, and then what difference does it make whether i’m angry or hate, well, in this case, there is no fundamental difference , well, it seems to me, well, again here i think, psychologists will answer this more, a short-term other reaction, here there is, relatively speaking,

more so let’s say, well, what should i call it, a stationary situation, that is, stable hatred. here too there are two options, the first option is stimulated hatred, this is when there is constant feeding, well, the incentives can be different, but the most classic incentive is propaganda, and so to speak, work with consciousness, knowledge, well, in principle, they can even be different kinds of drugs, well, there is such a known situation, yes, that a person, let’s say, ate or drank something and he hates it, but when the effect wears off, yes, that is, i understand correctly, what if? and another, so to speak , also interesting point is when this hatred is stable, it exists regardless of the stimulus, this is actually the most interesting phenomenon for science, here we consider, so to speak, the classical genetic system of complex

traits in humans, where there is genetics, after all, is a plus. the environment, well, people are just annoyed by the trees around them, it may well be, but why then are they not a stimulus, that is, it’s just without a stimulus, for them, well, a stimulus in this case can increase, as it were, aggravate this condition, but in principle, even without a stimulus , as they say, they cope, that is they hate, it doesn’t matter, uh-huh, good , thank you, this is suspicious, i really wouldn’t want someone to be stimulated by something to hate, it would be better to love, sergei nikolaevich, modern science somehow distinguishes types of hatred, here i already asked today how to divide, for example, when i hate or just angry? well, you see, in modern science, hatred is a little on the sidelines, because it is one of the forms of manifestation of aggressive behavior or aggression, it’s just that, well, it can be very

emotionally charged, or rationally explained, someone deceived him, then he is immediately can be transferred to the category, but there really is a type of hatred that depends more on the character, that is, stable, but although here, you can discuss there, when it was embedded in this character, or from childhood, this is a good question, yes character, what brought up, that is, someone is brought up, does not trust, in the required genetic base, if a person is poorly trained, then you understand that you are raising him, and somehow the efficiency is very low, but if he easily grasps everything like a sponge, then good and quickly, but there is a clear pattern, everything bad is remembered better than good, words that are indecent

to pronounce, you remember from one presentation, and many other very smart words that... at universities, had to be memorized, they are not always on time surfaced and three letter letters and more, so to speak, are easy , and the same with behavior, as freud once said, it is impossible to love someone if you hate someone, do not hate, or rather, first you need to clearly decide who and how, he was very fond of quoting, in my opinion, goett, that for complete happiness i need very little, a small house, a garden, perhaps to create, and every morning i drink a cup of coffee, see five or six defeated enemies, so - very often we throw ourselves into love only because we have

there are objects of hatred. andrey anatolyevich, well, they also say that hatred destroys, has anyone even studied the influence of hatred on a person? well, of course , doctors and psychologists are a constant subject of discussion, and well, i’m not even talking about the fact that in addition to... science, art, religion, philosophy, they also dealt with all this, but it is generally accepted that, that hatred, like clearly a negative feeling, yes, it destroys a person, at least it destroys in the long term, strategically, that is, if in a short distance you can cheer yourself up, and this can help you overcome some of your current problems, yes, when you raise your vitality, then... then if you deal with this hatred constantly, then in the end you will turn into a ruin, but i would rather follow the ancient authors

he said that it is important to remember about vitality, about energy, that is, hatred is opposed not so much by love as by depression, apathy, that is, lack of feelings, withered feelings, yes, in this sense, such a person is destroyed even faster , that is... with we really feed ourselves with hatred, but we need to know moderation in everything, again following the precepts of the ancients, and that is, i’m not calling for hatred, no, of course, but to feel a constant flow of energy, to control the presence of this energy , very important, it seems to me that this is more important than and than, than, than to seek out where, where i hated, where i loved, just to feel this, inner vitality. today you already told life, i don’t know, just someone spent hatred on quality and longevity about collective hatred, and how

research on entire groups somehow affects, i will now talk about how we can lose demographically if we let hatred live, and how economically we can lose years of life, of course there is no measurement of hatred as causes of death, but there are dimensions associated with diseases of the nervous system, with mental disorders, if we take this version of this long destructive state, then in general hatred can be a factor that leads a person to this destructive condition, there are estimates, estimates at the level of world organizations, health care, and we can say today with absolute certainty that people with mental disorders lose 10, 20 years

of life, depending on the method of measurement and accompanying circumstances, 10-20 years of life minus for those who are sick with mental illness, compared to a mental disorder or, for example, apathy is a mental disorder, mental disorders are varied. but if we cannot measure the mortality rate from state of hatred, then i’m looking for an analogue that will tell us something about it, yes, some mental disorders can be associated with such a destructive state, with hatred, and when we talk about mental disorders in general, we know for sure that they they shorten life very much, 20 years, for example, smoking there takes 5 years. uh , immoderate alcohol takes 5 years, here again, mental disorders within which there are such destructive states, they take many times more years people, yes, as for

economic losses, economic, then here , well, economists, there is an economy of hatred, yes, of course, firstly, we suffer direct losses, when hatred... flows into something, it can result in physical violence, if it is a group story , it can result in threats, it can result in destruction of property, and it is clear that in the case of direct violence, direct destruction of property , we suffer economic losses, but in addition, we spend money on preventing extreme levels of group hatred, such as terrorism and so on, just assessing , checking, as it were, financial flows around the world, with terrorism, and for terrorism, takes hundreds of millions of dollars from the world economy, just this one

plot, and one more interesting point, economists also don’t have, well such a dimension , the effects on economic development on the economic growth of hatred, but there is another dichotomy: trust, distrust, distrust is close to hatred, others, we have prejudices, prejudice, hatred, distrust, these are all things of the same order, so it has been proven many times that trust, a high degree of trust in the economy , increases economic growth, increases our well-being, even if in russia the estimates are like this , and even the term trust economy is here, yes, yes, before there we would have added 70% of economic growth to ourselves if our the level of trust in society was the same as in the most trusting ideal countries, let’s call them that, and well, it’s completely clear

that in general, if i don’t trust some companies, products, that’s it, they won’t prosper if they’re massive relationship if we don't we trust the state, then here too there are a lot of bad consequences, we do not trust the state, we do not trust the initiatives that come from the state , sometimes very important and necessary initiatives for us, that is, these are all very dangerous things, yes, rather we have losses, numerous losses, lives, money , prospects, economic well-being, the flourishing of specific companies and regions and territories, than the profit from the sale of videos, stories, about hatred, this is a slightly different story, on a global scale - these are losses, it’s a shame, yes, someone specific makes money from selling stories and videos, they seem to be hateful, but at the same time we are losing globally, let’s dilute the hatred a little with cuteness, you had a snake, and i’m also quite cute, yes? oh, i ca

n’t, oh, i can’t, i’m not empty-handed either, today , what are we, sergei nikolaevich, look, he seems small, he doesn’t hate anyone, he doesn’t hate anyone yet, in fact there is some kind of predisposition to hatred, i'm just wondering who hates more men or women, i don’t know, children, yes, she’s young, she treats everyone calmly, will she be big, will there be problems? well, if it’s big, it will immediately find the source of danger, therefore, who is bigger, no one will tell you, but adults are afraid of youth, youth want to take their place, too, so to speak , from time to time they hate, men and women are distributed exactly as much as who -i offended someone, either a man or a woman, that’s why. this is self-regulation and

learning ability, if you tell someone from childhood that all men are assholes or that everyone women are certain, then this is how they will grow up , then rack your brains, how to fix it all, good men, all good men, love everyone, with this cute cat, the main problem is how to teach her to eat, and what she will eat, but you can, of course, persistently for a long time try to teach her to eat semolina, broccoli, uh -huh, broccoli, but this is not so, you know, imagine a predator who will become a herbivore, well , instead of a wolf we will see just a long-tailed hare, but i’m afraid this will affect her

quality of life if she's in this is what it's going to be influence life expectancy, that’s why all the talk about how we would like to defeat hatred, everything will be fine with the economy, and with life expectancy, these are such cute ideologies, but in reality it’s completely unclear whether this species can, i’m not saying not even only about a person, but also about other things, if we make cute plush toys out of them , the same with people, that is, if we make them out of us, this is a form of human protection, it arose at the moment of evolution, we must not forget that hatred is simply a kind of aggressive behavior, like interesting, you were born, he says that minus 20 years of hatred, you, as a psychologist, say that

hatred is still a defensive reaction. it was stipulated that, well, there are no studies, but it can be considered that alcohol and smoking have added 10, although when a person... he at least hates only those who are trying to take away from him, this is the ministry of health, in all countries, well, the police, in reality, all this is not there, you see, you can talk as much as you like about life expectancy, but then it all reminds of the old joke about a glass of water, how much does a drop of water cost, nothing, pour a glass. these things like hostility, aggressiveness, smoking , alcohol, these are all the droplets that are there , yes, these 20 years probably take away, maybe even more, because there are still problems with suicide, but in reality,

this is the contribution of the individual , there is no linear relationship, there is no linear relationship, okay, but you , as a geneticist, do you think, after all, hatred can take a life or, as has already been said many times, normal reactions, normal responses to something, to some external stimulus, on the other hand, since a person experiencing hatred anyway, he experiences stress, and stress is not only psychological, but stress, well, actually psychological stress is also stress at the level of molecules, at the level of cells, and this, in turn, also harms the body, because various kinds of substances and metabolites are released into the blood. which the actual standard of living, well, let’s say, but the state of health does not improve, does not improve, and here the question arises to what extent this useful, to what extent, that is, here, as always , it is necessary, you need to find some kind of balance, that is, get rid of hatred, there is not much point,

because again this is a normal reaction, and a normal reaction, it is designed to stop some more severe reactions than we exist, but on the other hand it can harm, this one is just in my opinion...' in my opinion, the task of science is precisely this balance to find between normality and a chronic condition in order to improve the quality of life, and the quality of life increases life expectancy , well further, as they say, everything is fine not only chronic, just the duration of stress, the picture is exactly the same, a bell curve, first the body begins to adapt, resist, the release of all these hormones, then we reach a plateau and it’s normal. in a sense , i am functioning at a new, elevated level, and then the body begins to deplete further and further. you know why you brought the lion cub correctly, i see how lions act, they are there for a short time for half an hour, they have

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take revenge on them in every possible way, but even worse, this is racial hatred, hatred on ethnic grounds causes the effect of a besieged fortress, when people believe that they are surrounded by enemies, inciting hatred for political purposes has already become a common occurrence, just like that, irina evgenievna, and what breakthroughs in the study of hatred do you expect? in the next 10 years, perhaps they will also single it out as a reason, well, on the one hand, i will say a simple, well-known truth, but i will say it: humanity is becoming more and more technologically perfect, and if we don’t if we fight a very tangible phenomenon like group hatred, then we will end badly on planet earth, because we are... getting stronger, at some point there is

a risk when we will be able to destroy the group we hate, we now have such weapons , which allows us to do this, and if we don’t restrain ourselves through humanitarian work, then it will end badly, this is the first story, so to speak, that is, humanitarian work, education, important things, and i think that, uh, at some interstitial level , international level, humanity will still develop a mechanism to extinguish this group hatred, namely group hatred, because... we even have separate terms, for example, misogeny, hatred, prejudice towards women, which hinders both the women themselves and their environment , in a career, in a family, in

work, their children and so on, these are all quite destructive things, group hatred, i repeat once again, with modern technology i hope that the world will be able to come to an agreement, the second breakthrough, which it seems to me, will be made with a big probably concerns individual work with people who have this state of hatred, which does not seem to me the norm, even in a non-painful state, of course, i can express my point of view here, maybe we are confusing the presence of feelings, the presence of energy, its extreme form, like hatred , we still need to understand here, in my opinion, but the part that leads to the destruction of a person will be better treated, science is moving forward, and the work of psychologists and psychiatrists will be better organized, and this will be a breakthrough in

i mean, this is the treatment of people in this state , it seems to me, well, naturally about social networks as the main evil, i listen to him every time and it also seems to me that social networks are evil, he said that in social networks hatred is signed by anonymity and secrecy, that is as soon as a person is anonymous and hidden, he can allow himself to show hatred, do you think this is really so, then he can somehow make everything open on social networks, use his passport, and thus remove the hatred there, there is an argument that that social networks they allow this hatred to splash out, splash out and thus somewhere in social networks, which is not a full-fledged life , yes, this hatred is there, then in life this hatred is not there, but i think that hatred does not go anywhere, yes whether it just splashed out or not is another question, but of course, in communications, such mass communications, network communications, well, simply in interpersonal

communications, the degree of hatred needs to be removed, but the hatred inside a person remains somehow, yes, that is, it is necessary. .. find a way to drain it, yes there in the form of i don’t know, the most obvious sport there, for example, you train , you compete, it’s a kind of imitation of war, imitation, there is war, some kind of aggression, yes, but creativity, maybe that in creativity, is absolutely true, in art, please, yes , in some others, in some games, i don’t know, in computer games, movies, we watch, yes, there are bloody series, yes, we splash out some negative ones, splash out, here the question is, is it just an outburst, or is it an outburst plus production and conscious as if pushing towards this hatred , yes, that is, of course, there is a difficult moment here, after all, social networks have existed not so long ago, they have been poorly studied, we don’t know what it will lead to, in fact, social networks themselves are developing, until recently they were only

text messages, now these are video services, yes, but there will be some more , that is, well, we need to watch, observe, science is watching this, some kind of gene of hatred will be discovered, or a tendency to hate and we can he, well look, here first of all, first of all, you need to debunk the concept of the gene of hatred, because well , there is a gene of hatred, i don’t know the gene there, playing the tambourine , the gene of love for snakes, this is all a pr construction, scientists use this construction in order to get funding, journalists use this construction in order to , so that there are beautiful headlines, in fact...' there cannot be any genes for hatred, because this is a very complex process, it involves a very large number of different molecular and cellular processes, so naturally there cannot be one gene like that, well concerns genetics, the question here is, we must, well, in fact , like all biomedicine, it develops through the study of pathology, that is, we

understand the norm through pathology, that is, we understand the norm as something that they say , does not correspond to changes, and accordingly: we must study these changes at the genetic level, at the so-called cellular level, at the psychological level, at the level of neurobiology, and in this way we can, we can understand how from some molecular processes, this comes to what we see directly in humans, well, actually, this is such a quantum of genetic research, an understanding of how everything goes from a molecule to the whole organism, well, again, knowing this whole chain, and this complex whole system , we can understand where this system breaks down, and accordingly, if it does not worsen the quality of life of a person or others, we can try this system. well, this is the most optimal option that can be, but again here we return to what we are considering in

as individual hatred, because group hatred is, so to speak , beyond genetics, it’s more psychology, manipulation of public consciousness, let ’s just say, yes, it’s all bad, especially since i understand that if we are this group that we hate someone, let's look at each individual, then sooner or later it will turn out. well, yes, they kind of hate them, well, they don’t like them, well, in principle, they don’t like them and don’t like them, well, what to do now? well, as for individual cases, here you need see whether it is a pathology or not. sergei nikolaevich, here we are today , you have already said today that yes, hatred, especially on an individual level, is kind of normal, yes, well, this is some kind of defensive reaction, but look, we are talking about extreme conditions that really worsen life and maybe then some kind of medicine will be invented, when you feel that you are going to the edge... a state of very great hatred, you are boiling or something else, since you took the pill it seems like you are back in normal hatred to choose from, please, i

don’t hate anyone, okay, well, i don’t not that much, i believe in it, you understand, well, now andrei anatolyevich quite wonderfully listed all kinds of institutions that promote hatred or ... his points of view reduce it, all the invective against networks, it ’s the same as saying that this pen is an instrument of hatred, but i can write some nasty things, not just nasty things, but even manifestos, so to speak, for what it’s necessary destroy people, all these tools, and when andreyvich talked about what he listed , on the one hand, it reduces hatred , on the other, it destroys, reading in a book is useful,

there is a lot of good and good in them, but books are different, books are different, they can describe well, why is it necessary to destroy this people, this race, these people, and so on, that is, it is settling here and there, it is no coincidence that the nazis burned books, but then the book was a source of information, then it was possible to add to this, add, networks appeared, but it's the same as complaining that the paper on it is disgusting they write, this is the problem, that social networks have turned from an empty white sheet into just a dim book that can convey a good, good example about sports, which means that those who practice run, jump, play whatever -this, and so on, but then a phenomenon arises, a very ancient one, well

, the most widely studied is ancient rome, people gather, watch how one gladiator kills another, there are battle scenes with ships in collision, they begin to accompany their loved ones chariots there, to another city with flags there and so on and yes, it is clear that when they come to another city, they begin to riot among themselves, since the british in the seventies and eighties very actively studied this, then we see, it means that on the one hand, sports, on the one hand, football is a wonderful activity, but on the other groups have arisen on both sides, fan groups, fans who don’t go, if they used to fight at the stadium, then they don’t... go to football, they look at the schedule of football matches, then they come to an agreement where there is no police, because

the police have become very actively choke so they agree somewhere on the outskirts between two cities, and this is the schedule of their fights, but it seems to me that they have nothing to do with sports, these are people who do not engage in sports, they were pushed, excuse me, they are engaged in the first place because you need to learn, you need to be in good physical shape, you need to be in good physical shape, but they don’t have access to sports. sport was a reason, now we are going to scold sport, it means how this is developing, so it is not at all accidental, the subject of research, here is hatred, it is more for criminologists. heate crime , a separate group of crimes where it is necessary to prove to lawyers, well, to investigators and others, including psychological ones, that this is not just the murder of someone, precisely out of prejudice, hatred, taking into account historical factors, there in kosovo. ..

in albania there are still four hundred years of blood feuds, and you understand that at the core there is hatred for this family and so on, and this is one thing, and another is that this is an extreme form of aggressive actions, disgust is hatred, not by chance there is cold hatred, hot hatred , warm hatred, and so on, let's take a long break, there is an advertisement on ntv, there is cold hatred, it's me, alexander osachi, i discovered two sea currents, and global climate forecasts became more accurate, and this is the moment when i realized that there was a whole sea of ​​seas in the world who wanted to know everything about them. develops interest in science from childhood. enter science majors. rf. on

the air. guests, optimists, skeptics, we have a question for you, how likely is it, in your opinion, that science has a chance to defeat hatred? in 10 years, irina evgenievna, do you have a forecast? i will give 50%, i still believe in the intelligence of humanity, or you don’t believe it, but only half, but only half, because the period is short, 10 years is a short period, 50%, thank you very much. since hatred at its core is not a genetic problem, then from the point of view of genetics, yes from the point of view of genetics, actually 0% , because as they say, from the point of view of humanity, enough to tell my skeptics, we are doing well, from the point of view of humanity, again here is the question, how much we will be able to solve this at the individual level, but in this case i am a pessimist,

because personalization is promoted, but in reality it... is not there, therefore, well, 10% is no more, 10% have already said, 10%, thank you very much, well, i give 100% for the simple reason that i believe that hatred has already been defeated, in the case of each specific individual hating person, we are not talking, if we talk about society in general, this is a different question, but if we talk about a specific hating person, for there are a lot of tranquilizers, sedatives, there are psychotherapy, where talking can bring a person to his senses, there is hypnosis and so on and so on, and psychotherapy, psychiatry as a branch of medicine, i think that geneticists will still come up with something in the end, and that is, here, here with an individual can always figure it out, but if we talk about hatred in general in society, then there is another question, why, that’s why, well, a person

is half an animal, at least half, and animals... a feeling of aggression, but why fight nature, you need somehow modify what is, do something more comfortable, well, therefore, 100%, yes 100%, thank you very much, no more than 5%, and these 5% will consist of the fact that if as a result of the world war a small group of people remains, in order to survive, they will curb hatred a little, but this has nothing to do with science. attitude, this is simply to universal human survival, and the fact that science , i would say, is everything, but so, in order to believe in miracles, and somehow live with optimism, although it seems to me that, well, at this time great, it’s not a given, let’s still be optimistic 5%, thank you.