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shlyubkin, valentin lyubimov, alexander tutarinov, ntv television company. more news on our website in the telegram channel chikplain tvm. that's all for today, thank you for your attention . today in our program. at the negotiating table, something can be squeezed out, something can be obtained. a monkey with a grenade. ukraine issues ultimatums and trades territories. why can we now put a fat cross on any negotiations with kiev? this is a fatal mistake. at the bottom. zelensky and zaluzhny are guilty of the terrorist attack on the nord streams. why is washington drowning an ally? if we knew, we would turned to the german authorities. parental control. the head of komi. suggested not to let
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children on the internet, will adult russia be able to live without youtube and wikipedia? personally, i can easily, watch right now! hello, this is the meeting place on ntv, the place where everything becomes clear, i am andrey norkin, my colleague ivan trushkin, we are working live, we will start with something unexpected, as if ...
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the article itself is called like this: the true story of the sabotage on the northern streams, it claims that the plan to blow up the gas pipeline appeared in may 2022 in time, i quote, of a night of drinking.
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high-ranking ukrainian military businessmen, they came up with the idea of ​​sending a yacht with divers and saboteurs to the streams under the guise of an amateur cruise, so there was a woman on this yacht, she, apparently, created a cruise atmosphere. to lead the operation, again allegedly put an associate of the then commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine zaluzhny, and the final go-ahead for the operation was given orally by zelensky. then, as the wall street journal writes, the cia learned about all this, about kiev's insidious plans, zelensky, under their pressure, tried to play it all back, but it was too late, because zaluzhny ignored his order, moreover, he revised the original plan, added some more ukrainian special agents to it, and in short, as the wall street journal writes, all this was done and cost the kiev treasury quite cheaply, 300,000 euros, in our country it is somewhere around 30 million rubles. this is the rent of a yacht and a fee for the performers of a group of six people.
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this whole tale about the good cia and such an unlucky savior zelensky, wall street the journal adds all sorts of details, allegedly it was the story with the nord streams that caused the terrorist zelensky to quarrel with the disobedient villain zaluzhny, these are all versions of the wall street journal, in fairness they asked zaluzhny for a comment, zaluzhny denies everything, says that this is an absolute provocation and in general adds that the armed forces of ukraine have no authority to carry out such...
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at the school, according to the german investigation , divers worked in pairs and planted an explosive device with a substance at depth octogen. police are said to have found traces of explosives, fingerprints and dna samples on the yacht. uspensky, according to the press, now lives in bulgaria and denies any involvement in the case. the main suspect is vladimir zhuravlev, who, according to available information, was hiding in poland. however, after a warrant was issued for his arrest, warsaw claims he fled to ukraine. the polish side reports that vladimir z. left in early july. the question remains: what role does poland play in this connection? from the very beginning, the impression is that the poles are collaborating, but not giving full information. this is a really serious development and quite sudden. the german authorities have kept silent on the matter since the beginning of last year. the nord stream project had many ill-wishers, but now we
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may at least be a little closer to understanding who is behind the explosion. wrote to us about the good cia, which tried to stop everything. what is the white house saying now? the white house is trying to do anything.
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in fact, it was possible to cease fire, they are no longer being considered, so anton valeevich, you think, look, a ready-made presenter, he starts the stories himself, what a good guy, let's see, the recent attack on the kursk region was a fatal mistake for kiev, these
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words of the deputy permanent representative of russia , dmitry polyansky, caused heated discussions, the diplomat mentioned russia's peace proposals made in june, which kiev turned away from. the country made a very generous offer of negotiations to ukraine, considering its deplorable situation on the front line. we received a response to our offer a week ago. zelensky's regime has chosen to escalate the war by invading a peaceful russian region. this is a fatal mistake, which ukraine will later deeply regret, but the choice has already been made. from these words, many experts concluded that the previous peace conditions are no longer relevant. and possibly the negotiations with the kiev regime themselves. let me remind you that in june, vladimir putin announced that russia would immediately cease fire and would be ready for negotiations with kiev as soon as the ukrainian authorities refuse to join nato, begin withdrawing troops from the territory of the lpr, dpr, kherson and zaporizhia
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regions, all western sanctions will be lifted. obviously, the realities on the ground on the line of combat contact will continue to change, not in favor of the kiev regime. and the conditions. for the start of negotiations will be different, i will emphasize the main thing, the essence of our proposal is not in some kind of temporary peace , truce or ceasefire, as this, for example,
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accordingly, with whom to talk about what? is the report finished or not? or can i
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ask a question right away. that is , that we are withdrawing these proposals of ours or what? that is, we ourselves will not do them now discuss? or do they remain in force? putin simply had a phrase there about the fact that the following proposals will be much, we are not just withdrawing something, we are in favor of a peaceful settlement, for the end of the conflict, they do not want, because one of the... goals of the attack on the kursk region for zelensky is to create conditions in which negotiations are impossible, because for him negotiations mean stopping the war, and stopping the war means for him the end of any political career, which means legal consequences, possibly a threat life, there is a feeling that they have a completely mirror theory in their heads, on the contrary, they believe that this will speed up the negotiations, no, well , colleagues, well, wait, please explain to me again, then... what do the words of our deputy permanent representative to the un mean: we still
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consider it possible to immediately cease fire and generally stop this conflict, as the president said, on the conditions that were listed in june and we simply add to them the immediate liberation of our territories in kursk that they captured areas, or yeah, now we are saying, as pyotr olegovich tolstoy said some time ago, we will simply kill you all. now explain to me, are we, in short, are we now tightening our position, or have we remained, we are on the one hand, we are on the one hand, while fulfilling the conditions that were previously voiced, plus new conditions will appear now, some, for example, there may be conditions, and this has already been voiced at the official level, in fact, but experts have been talking about this for a long time, for example, what he said.
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we really want this, because they themselves created such, because they created such, created such conditions, so, june is the basis, now we have such a superstructure briefly, i will draw your attention to the fact that the option that was proposed in june, it is tougher than the option that, if they had gone for it in may of twenty-second year, tougher, we constantly say that we say every time that the next step will be, that is , worse for you, whom alexey sergeyevich, in my opinion, i would not call it. proposal for negotiations, the word negotiations implies compromises, concessions from both sides,
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the word concession was never heard from russia, the wording was about achieving the goals of a special military operation by diplomatic means, this is essentially an ultimatum, this is not an invitation or proposals for negotiations, these negotiations are not determined by the words of mr. putin, not by the words of mr. zelensky, not by the words of mr. polyansky, negotiations on ending an armed conflict are determined by the realities on the ground and the balance of power of the parties, it is clear. the change should have happened accordingly there will be a change in the preparation of military operations do not change, accordingly it is clear that the invasion of the kursk region in fact from a military point of view changed little, it did not change the balance of power, russia is still stronger, russia is still bigger, it
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looks like the russian army will be occupied now, that is, the balance of power between russia and ukraine has not changed, the goals of russia. here are two completely different points of view, that ukraine is rather trying, when it invaded the kursk region, rather trying to force us to negotiations, or on the contrary, tries to make any negotiation process impossible at all.
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in the conditions of the conflict seeks to strengthen its negotiating position, we proceed from the fact that a non-negotiated solution to the fall of kiev or the fall of moscow is impossible, accordingly we come to negotiations, let's andrei vladimirovich, because he was happily having fun at the moment when you said that nothing had changed, the goals, that ukraine had won nothing except pr, decipher your emotions, andrei vladimirovich, no, well, i'm not an emotion, i i still rely on facts, well, you somehow relied on them, smiling at you. sit sad like trump? then, well, first of all, you need to understand what is happening now in kiev, a meeting was held with zelensky with the participation, yesterday was yesterday, yes , several fundamentally important things were stated there: the first is that the operation in the kursk region is a success, a success from the point of view
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of the fact that it proved the weakness of the russian federation in protecting its state borders, so. that is why syrsky yesterday i said once what i already said on monday, about the next stage of the operation, the key important ones, which will happen, apparently, next week, it is very important that at yesterday's meeting it was stated that we need to move on from the old tactics, we need to forget the old tactics of sabotage and reconnaissance groups, and move on to the kursk model, that is.
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you are now talking about how poorly we guard our borders, how long is the border with ukraine, namely the kursk region of ukraine, i can't tell you exactly now say, but not the question, not the tv, they didn't write, i understood, that's not the question, then, the next point, in fact, in kiev they were very happy with the president's statement, and what about there , that there will be no negotiations, it's true, they were very happy, why, because ukraine
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is now getting a better position, it will continue to say that - "we want negotiations, we are preparing a second summit for the second, for the second half of november, andreyevich, if they want negotiations, maybe they will cancel the decree banning themselves from talking to russian president, read the text of this decree, there is not a single word about the fact that it is impossible to negotiate, it is impossible to negotiate, i asked you to talk with the russian president, that is another matter, again ukrainian, you are some kind of formalist, by god, their president is a person who already".
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kiev is starting to write rather cautiously about what kind of response moscow can give and what ukraine can get from us in a military sense for this very invasion of the kursk region, here is the tone of these publications and comments, it is not at all bravura and not pr, but nothing will happen. the white house is confident that the attack of the ukrainian armed forces on the kursk region will definitely be followed by a tough response from moscow. first of all, they are expecting new powerful missile strikes on ukrainian infrastructure. they have played too much with predictions in the spirit of. honor to the ukrainians, former american ambassador to moscow, john sullivan. the russians could have considered that the united states is involved in this, as they say, serious provocation or
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terrorist act, this is a kind of red line that the ukrainians crossed. putin's reaction will be so decisive, as possible. it will also be a significant distraction for offensive maneuvers in ukraine. british newspapers and the daily mail unanimously predict that the russians will now target decision-making centers, from the rada building in kiev to the bunkers of the general staff of the armed forces of ukraine and nato advisers, and moscow, according to their version, will not limit itself to four missiles, but can launch hundreds of cruise and ballistic missiles or glide bombs, are preparing for a serious strike in kiev, local experts are of the opinion that russian troops will allow the armed forces of ukraine go deeper into the kursk region, and then they will cover half, judging by the fact that they are actively now... conducting an evacuation, he planned this: to remove their citizens from there later with carpet bombing, it will be difficult there.
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they got nervous in berlin, and the germans believe that the russians will take revenge on them, for the german marauders who entered the territory of russia and violated the taboo, so the resident of the newspaper handelс blat is scared, and now he is worried about german power lines, defense enterprises, transport routes. u... andrei nikolaevich, this is how they are spreading this story about some kind of unprecedentedly strong response from moscow, which in their opinion is about to follow, perhaps this response will not follow, or it will follow in a form that is not what they expect, they are spreading this in order to say, aha, look at these russians, we went to them in the kursk region, they are weak and did not even hit us with a missile, let's do another one. well , first of all, i will again note that regarding the protection of the state border, i cannot ignore this, i want to say that
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the border units on the line where it happened invasion, they did everything they could, that's the first thing, so i ask you not to make comments about the border guards that you will allow yourself to do, because i consider it offensive, that's one, and don't talk about things you don't understand, the second point, the stories about how they will now switch to no new army operation. used practically everything that it has in this direction, and there is no need to talk about the fact that there is something else there, now regarding , wait, andrei nikaevich, andrei vladimirovich summed all this up to the conclusion
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that pr in politics is of great importance, and what seems to you and me to be some kind of absurd actions, from another point of view, from pr, well, and how much time has passed, and how much time has passed since the moment when, in my opinion, andriy vladimirovich's government of georgia fell, well, in some sense there. and to explain to everyone to himself that this direction towards pr, this is where they are heading, it seems dorado, but it is quite
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logical, because it is absolutely not important. what happens from the point of view of common sense, did you hear that a couple of weeks ago zelensky bought from sting, his estate in france, i think they wrote that either in france or in italy, you know, he, he, he doesn’t care, he has everything ready, when the moment comes there x everything, he will just get on a plane and fly away, he doesn’t care at all, therefore, therefore he can do these completely stupid things and can, in principle, approve.
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just don’t tell us that in kiev they give birth to challengers, who are not restored again, which they have there were from 13 to 30 pieces, which they are now talking about, this is what they were saving even during the offensive last year, this tells you what, that they are fooling around, no, they are using what they have, and once again the question is not that this will now reach somewhere in moscow, this is a question of what to use and survive this until the internal destabilization of russia in the hope that russia is a leg, accumulate energy, now we will give you the word of vyska.
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because they understand that this is the trend of recent months, after some time time will lead to their collapse. so, come on georgyevich, we'll have time. so, firstly, indeed, a whole series of actions that we call ukrainian pr is an attempt. of our region, but it does this precisely because no one will remove the most combat-ready units from donbass, and no matter how anyone likes the military logic now, this is the first point, regarding negotiations, of course, ukraine needs negotiations, of course, but it needs negotiations in the ukrainian sense of the
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word, that is, negotiations for the sake of negotiations, sat down, froze the conflict for the duration of the negotiations, they talked senselessly about something, they talked senselessly about something, and so on, these negotiations, can i finish, please, these negotiations.
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, the ukrainian armed forces lost up to 340 servicemen and 19 pieces of equipment in this area. among the destroyed were two tanks, an armored personnel carrier and 13 armored vehicles. the video, which was distributed by our ministry of defense, shows abandoned, slightly damaged equipment and the bodies of dead ukrainian armed forces soldiers. the department also publishes footage of captured soldiers from two ukrainian brigades. captured. they were in populated areas malaya loknya, martynovka and ulanok. a total of eighteen ss men were reported captured. surnames and patronymics kravchuk petro. which brigade? 82nd airmobile. the operational headquarters of the kursk region also decided on the mandatory evacuation of people from the glushkovsky district of the region. it borders on sudzhansky. the departure of civilians will be, in fact, you can see on the map, the departure of civilians from there. will be coordinated by the local administration, the military,
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employees of law enforcement agencies, volunteers. most residents of the border areas kursk region temporarily resettled are safe. over the past 24 hours , more than 300 people have left for safe areas. as of today , over 8,000 people are in temporary accommodation centers, including over 2,500 children. well, the kiev authorities are already making plans to create a certain security zone in the occupied areas of russian territory, it is noteworthy that the ministry for reintegration of ukraine is engaged in this, that is, kiev is trying to show that it is already trying to take these occupied square... kilometers considers its territory to be its own, here you see the head of the department irina vereshchuk, she has written out a detailed plan of action. this plan assumes that some humanitarian operations will be carried out in this zone by the ukrainian military and supposedly corridors will even be opened for the evacuation of residents not only to the territory of ukraine, but also to the territory of russia. then
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representatives of some international organizations will be allowed there. how will these humanitarian operations be carried out? the minister has not yet specified, but this is exactly what we talked about in the previous part we talked about the kursk regions, not only because there was the latest news, here is what vanya said, but in the previous part, yes, we stopped at the fact that the kursk region is now a key story for understanding how special military operations will proceed, let's see now, colleagues have prepared a story, here is what the west thinks, how they assume how long ukraine will be able to hold on to those.
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goals to create a buffer zone along the border between russia and ukraine, not inside the territory of ukraine, inside russian territory, to provide greater protection for people living in places like the sumy region. military observer of the german newspaper bilt, julian röbke, believes that ukraine will have to leave russian territory very soon, he suggested not to deceive ourselves about imaginary
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successes, to send soldiers and equipment to more important places where fighting is currently taking place , about the fact that a new front for ukraine... direction, but honestly, for those who now in the pokrovsky direction, they have no time to read the news, i tell you, the situation there is really shitty, well, in general, this kind of seriously raises morale in kursk , as if the conclusion is that yes, pr is more important, andrei nikoyevich, can we continue the argument that we had at the very end of the program?
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he will say everything, i can’t, we accept any conditions, we will stop, in fact , in the fall of 2022 they were completely convinced that russia had reached the point, so now it can be forced, now the same conversation is going on, you understand, the conversation is about the fact that now this painful vice will be such that russia will not take any measures, will not increase efforts, on the contrary, will look for ways, and what measures will you take, we see what measures, we need to maintain. someone now has at least a dozen different measures that our team cannot apply right now, some of them it applies, there are even more severe measures, therefore to say that
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we do not have the capabilities for this, nothing like that, if we say, as you said about ukrainian military sources, what i have seen in the last 24 hours, they are now discussing the second one. i do not agree with him, because after all, apparently, the second such operation will take place in the near future, and it will be possible already, that is , again for the sake of pr, or what?
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this period was not named quite short, you said that everything would continue there and so that we would not think that there is something fast law, here you are after 3 days, you name the figure of 2 weeks, mr. naumov yesterday also named the figure of 2 weeks, i have a feeling that i do not know something. there is such an opinion in kiev about that we need to hold out for another 2 weeks and during these 2 weeks we need to deliver the same blow in another place, so what's the point andrey vladievich, that is, 2 weeks, wait, 2 weeks of lying down with bones, then quit all this and start the same thing in another place, what's the point, this is exactly what i want him to answer, this is exactly the same strategy of constant painful blows to russia, this is what they want now, this is what they want, because? use it
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to prepare the next operation, these words to us, maybe alexey sergeevich will explain, because he also talks about two weeks, your two weeks seem to me to be a slightly different two weeks than the ukrainian one, look, the thing is that it is important for ukraine to reverse the narrative around the conflict that has developed , maybe they will hold a referendum on the inclusion of the kursk region in ukraine during these two weeks? that russia is slowly but surely moving forward and taking its own, that ukraine's resistance is useless, you can give them haimars, tanks, planes, this will not change this calculation, russia moves forward towards its goals, what does ukraine want to show, it wants to show, no, it's not so clear-cut, it's not so simple, ukraine is capable of delivering painful blows to russia, therefore it is in russia's interests now.
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just to turn the board over, to try to convince the west, the western layman, this one and its own, by the way, layman, that everything is not as it really is, in fact
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, everyone says, in fact, we can really attack russia, and russia is that very voice, an ear of clay an ear of clay on feet of clay, which means, accordingly, that russia does not need to be afraid of him, and for this purpose to dig out new weapons for itself, for this purpose , it means permission to strike deep into russia, for this purpose it could even be a nato boot, because? distance, and by the way, they are not the only ones who say this, they are stretching it out for more , our experts are saying this, including western experts, there is military logic, and there is the logic of pr, here is the logic of pr, it is the most important in this case with this logic of pr they inspire their population for a while.
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means a suspension of military actions, if it is suspended, ukraine is wonderful, yes it notices, we only need this, you can look a little wider, then listen to what i'm going to tell you now, then you'll see, so as soon as military actions end, zelensky has no argument to continue censorship, to not hold elections, which he will most likely lose, because elections are needed, the end of the freeze, these are different things , actually. i'm not confusing anything, you somehow have it at once, with the freeze all this will continue fine, there will be
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20 kopecks. and this is the meeting place on ntv, the place where everything becomes clear. will you ever decide on your position, gegorg valerievich, and i'm a defector, a defector, mind you, now we're going to have a conversation about all sorts of infections, well, in a figurative sense, and by the way, we have prepared a survey again, but first about the infection in the literal sense for the real infection, a very alarming infection, because the world health organization declared a global health emergency, we heard this when the covid pandemic was just beginning on... seiros, the concern of the world health organization is caused by the manky pox virus spreading across central africa, that is, monkeypox. in the democratic republic of the congo alone, there are already 15,000 cases of infection, almost 500
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deaths. you have a separate concern the speed with which this infection is spreading. cases of infection have already been recorded in burundi, kenya, rwanda and uganda. patients suffer from high fever, muscle pain and a characteristic rash on... the threat of spreading the monkey disease in our what does our rospotrebnadzor say? they say that they have the situation under control,
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the country does not. when traveling abroad , our tourists are advised to avoid contact with animals, especially rodents and primates, because they can be carriers of the virus. 2 years ago vos already declared such a through. world scale because of monkeypox, then this disease suddenly and rapidly spread across europe, across the american continent, and then around the world, then in 110 countries almost 100,000 people fell ill with smallpox, but the right measures were taken very quickly, then a little more than 200 infected from 110 countries died, but that outbreak, as experts say, was caused by a less dangerous strain, now everything looks more serious, i don’t know ... how much it scared, but anxiously attentively, well, in principle, of course you you can scare me, but i'm not very scared yet, i'm scaring you, you're not scared, yeah, well i can hardly imagine what kind of contact i could have with a primate in
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an african country, i've never been to africa , even if i go, i'm definitely not going to come into contact with a primate, okay, let's still have me, frankly speaking, roskomnadzor, here it seems to me that the position is more, i will pay attention to them, and not to mr. i don't know the reality there, which is really becoming more and more real every year, but many people have a question about how useful all this is, you remember perfectly well that we have been talking for a long time about the need to somehow regulate foreign social networks first of all, we need to somehow protect our children from the content, from the content that is in these networks, these conversations have reached the point that during our vacation. changes began to occur with
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youtube, if you remember, about 2-3 years ago, but someone here recently recalled, and mikhail markelov, that there were such conversations that it is impossible somehow to limit youtube, it will lead to almost a youth rebellion, which yes, alexander nikolaevich sitin even here, although he probably shouldn't be considered a young person, but he is young in spirit, he even said that he watches films there, how will he live without films on youtube, in short, in general, and some real measures are being implemented, no one has banned youtube, but our special agencies have somehow adjusted its work so that it now slows down a little, and therefore let's watch a story about youtube and all sorts of other interesting things social networks and messengers, how they exist in our country, and then i will already outline the question that we will ask you to answer, let's watch. in early august,
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when many russians, out of habit, decided to watch their favorite videos on youtube, it turned out that this is not so easy to do: high-quality videos stopped playing, and sometimes users could not open the site at all, although there were no official statements from the authorities, some deputies say that this is a forced step in response to youtube's hostile actions. it was it was suggested to switch to russian video hosting services, but not all russians were happy with this news. how did you react to... youtube slowdown, oh, it's really terrible, quite negative, sad, in fact, the first calls to punish the video hosting service were heard back in the spring of 2022, when youtube closed the channels of russian state publications and television companies, including ntv. a month ago , youtube blocked and destroyed the channels of some russian stars, grigory leps, shaman, polina gagarina and oleg gazmanov. before that, bloggers and war correspondents covering a special military operation.
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more than once, demands were sent, in particular , to stop the dissemination of calls to participate in extremist actions. the other day, a moscow court once again fined wikipedia 4 million rubles for refusing to remove prohibited information. in total, the electronic encyclopedia has already received more than ten such fines for 13 million. they propose to close the resource since 2
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years secretly collected data from millions of users around the world. google's main concept is this. let's track everything the user does and store information on their own device. and if we control the device, we control the users. such an internet person, a real one with such eyes. we mentioned many resources in this story, but we decided to poll only about youtube, which i repeat once again in front of everyone. we do not prohibit its wonderful actions, but we make it work a little slower, so that you spend less time there, and go there to some russian resource, the same thing, by the way, with wikipedia, so the poll uh... our programs are taking place, as you know, in the telegram channel, so go there and subscribe at the same time, whoever hasn't done it yet, and how did you react to the slowdown of youtube, this is our question, answer options, right, it's high time, and you are very upset and will study the possibility
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of switching to russian analogues, you are very upset, outraged and will look for ways to bypass this ban, well, with the help of various technical devices, and we actually even if...
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to another level there, many of us have foreign cars, so the russian authorities suggest, let's do something for foreign cars, maybe make the suspension a little stiffer, maybe, well, somehow limit the engine's operation, let them use this foreign car, or better yet, refuse it and switch to the domestic auto industry, well , we have our own auto industry, it has four wheels, and an internal combustion engine, now while i was driving around the country, how much did i get there - in the end, 3.00 km, i also have yes ...
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i don't like what youtube does, but i don't i'm ready to give up youtube, seriously, youtube taught me to love my homeland, you know, but for example, i listened to lectures, talks about russian culture by yuri lotman, they are not on the ruble, they are not on the ruble, well, they will be transferred someday, and there, and there, and there are hundreds of thousands of views, he, there i listened to pyatigorsky's lectures, for example, the program korni ivanchukovsky about the russian language, all this is on youtube, there is none of this on the ruble, as for.
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without which, it means, everything will collapse, no, you understand, the problem is that there are things that will happen, we want whether we do it or not, when we talk about restrictions on the internet, which are becoming more and more severe, this is not a phenomenon that is happening in the russian federation, this is a worldwide phenomenon, when you open the australian news and see that they practically want to do the same social networks, like our soviet films from the age of 16, this is not a discussion of some kind of dictatorship of the russian federation or something, a completely democratic state, the problem is that the state understood one simple thing: this is a very good a tool of manipulation, influence, and they want to control all of this, accordingly, try to serve. somewhere here their own agenda, somewhere to use for their own purposes, therefore these fences that you may
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like or not like, they will arise one way or another regardless of what you think, regardless of the fact that we will still come to a complete ban on such things, we will not come to a complete ban on the internet, the internet will simply be built the way the state considers necessary, that is, there will only be food delivery, no, of course the food delivery will remain, well, i 'm talking about the food delivery. they're filming, youtube is leaving, it seems to me that we're already
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in horror, horror, it's a nightmare, plaster, in short, we talked about this topic regarding blocking, then the issue was radical youtube there a few years ago, and let's say, at that time it wouldn't have worked and would have really caused, probably, some social phenomena that are quite bad, today people, that's what you even show , they meet with understanding, strangely enough, they agree that this should be done, slowing down youtube or limiting the service, isn't it strange, why isn't it strange, why is it strange? i didn't say it was strange, strange as it may be, people are understanding, they are understanding, yes, but let's still separate the service and the internet, the internet is a distribution system, not only content, but a system of interaction in technological terms, and services always belong to some organizations or specific people, and even those made from the point of view of all the good that can be in the soul of a person, they can be used for some period of time in a completely not good intentions at the moment i absolutely. with a colleague, now there is a so-called balconization of the internet, this is already a long-term trend, when information fences, borders
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are built between different countries, both democratic and not only democratic, during this period of time you and i will have to live, in this technological moment of slowing down services or limiting them, but if we take the human and such a long-term playing tendency, then the restriction to information resources is of course the wrong policy, we need to work here.
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through the court, thank you very much, through the court, probably, this will not work in any way, because after all the site has the right to administer the content part that is in its possession, and here either the question of building relationships, what he does, yes, to agree, or , accordingly, the impossibility of continuing, they sign up for the fact that they are implementing laws on someone else's territory, such as the company
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clear division, the company either stood, there was no possibility even technically, therefore everything developed as it developed, now there is no balkanization, now there is apple in china, we forget all the time, apple works normally in china, that is, explain, that is, there are no tweaks at all, there the apple company transferred storage of icloud to china, yes, that is, it gave them everything that they were supposed to, therefore there apple in china trades normally, they agreed to comply with the laws of china? and if earlier these large companies did not have resources for determining, well, in russia there
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are certain requirements for cold weapons, so advertising is especially popular, yes, now these resources are available, and companies do not like to break down by and large, because here...
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yes, in the end, the position, i say that we immediately presented the full bill, that is - look, then there are two paths, it means, either we, technically regulate some piece here, or i don’t know, diplomatically , somehow try to come to an agreement with them, and if they agree - to work with us, then we will generally remove all restrictions we're filming, right? well, i somehow doubt it, well , if only, if only.
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we just see it that way from my side, we immediately presented them with the idea that let's cooperate with us, open everything to us like yandex, we had to go little by little of course, that is , somehow move, maybe it worked, maybe not, by the way, because after all , in our case, politics plays a very big role, well, let's finish this part now, how do you feel about this current slowdown, do you approve of this as a test of the possibility in general, can you whether to really ban, because when banning youtube, technicians say that the channels will be closed. because people who are not satisfied will go through vpn and will directly uneconomically squeeze traffic and in general foreign channels will be closed, well, and there will be as if many different, in general, it is possible that our services will not withstand this load, therefore there is a slowdown, since it has not been announced, yes, by and large, you have such a slightly medical approach, such a research one, you are interested, speaking, and moreover, i i'm sure that's probably exactly how
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a plus. miracle, premiere on saturday at 20:00 on ntv. this is the meeting place on ntv, the place where everything becomes clear. we continue to watch for now. without showing you the results of our interim survey, how do you feel about the slowdown of youtube on russian territory, but the guys are watching, they say that in koevka we usually have one answer option right here the winner, and then all the others are distributed little by little, no, now if you look, it turns out that there is a struggle and there is practically no leader in sight yet, well, i try not to tell, moreover, even if you don’t use youtube, our dear viewers, but you can go to our telegram channel, click on the option: sveta, that you basically don’t care and don’t give a damn about this youtube, we want to understand about our audience, how you feel about this and whether it has affected you at all, but if we ask about
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youtube, this is what is called the internet for everyone, both for adults and for children, then it is probably worth stopping separately on the internet for children, because in recent months there have been a lot of examples of how all sorts of ukrainian terrorists are persuading our teenagers to set something on fire or make some kind of bomb about some pedophiles, which have surfaced again. i read stories on vacation, i was horrified, in general, it even got to the point in the summer of proposals that children's access to the internet should be restricted before it is too late. ban minors not just from sitting on social networks, but from the internet in general, he proposed head of the komi republic, vladimir uyba. the arguments are simple: we need to save children from gambling addiction, porn content and unwanted acquaintances, and for educational purposes a school of clubs will suffice. uyba even managed to send his proposal. russia: children go head over heels into the internet, some become gambling addicts, addicts, users of all sorts of porn sites, some start corresponding
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with god knows who, it turns out that this is an adult uncle who pretends to be a boy or a girl, everything then often ends in corruption. to russian teenagers officially, it is allowed to register on social networks only from the age of 14, although no one prevents, for example, a six-year-old child from inflating his age, because social networks. all the same, they do not check it in any way, recently public figures have had complaints about the fashionable among children service likes, which has been chosen by pedophiles and other villains, you are fried, olya, are you ready, right? in addition, hundreds of children, having watched popular bloggers, dream of repeating their success, posting peculiar videos on the internet, that i just wanted to take a chocolate bar, live in social networks and provocateurs who offer teenagers easy money, for example, for committing a terrorist act, so in the sverdlovsk region eight schoolchildren planned to set fire to a railroad, an anonymous assignment came from ukraine, as
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a result, instead of money, the guys... a criminal case under the article on terrorism, some teenagers have already been brought to prison by such online dating, when an innocent person is killed, i feel sad, i wanted to help somehow, but i did not realize that this is not help, gullible children are a tasty morsel prey for scammers, for example, after the state exam and the unified state exam, children began to receive suspicious messages, allegedly from observers, schoolchildren were intimidated by the fact that they were caught cheating, everything was recorded on camera. and now the results will be canceled and they extorted either money or access to personal accounts. fraudsters , posing as friends, lure our children to forums, to separate social networks and there offer them to buy the same thing, but cheaper. but for schoolchildren from the provinces, the internet is often a salvation. according to a survey, four out of five teenagers sit online to improve their studies, learn languages, draw, watch educational videos on history, geography and
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i think that no, this is not a conflict between fathers and children, i absolutely agree with vladimir uibo, i absolutely agree with the material that you published, but i still wanted to talk about the ideology that forms in the same youtube, the same google, it forms public opinion, it forms fashion, it forms a model of behavior, this model of behavior then begins to practically ...
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not idiots, but literally in 30 years we see what happened, this is also through youtube, through the internet, through instagram, through facebook, its social networks, but maybe we are somehow limiting this somewhere, prohibiting it somewhere, removing it, slowing it down, and leaving something, and something perfectly on the internet, the committee systematically participating in such programs, i participated in yours some time ago, and we said that it is necessary to simply limit children's access, firstly to a certain age and go through
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a passport. identification is mandatory, possibly or not, this is what german sergeevich can say, firstly, secondly, i would, for example, now during the war, after covid, move on to more radical methods and block youtube altogether, why? because such a huge part of negative information is now coming through it, which forms the model of behavior among children, the younger generation and causes panic among adults. when they talk about money, but they talk about some inconveniences, this is just a disaster, i think, you have long sold our children for 30 pieces of silver, it's more like telegram now, this is something that needs to be approached in a comprehensive manner, i mean ban everything or in a comprehensive manner - these are different in my opinion, when i hear initiatives like these about banning youtube, banning the internet as such for children, it's kind of hard for me to react to this in a censorious manner, but i
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'll try.
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restrict it without turning off the internet altogether, because i have a feeling that while it works, all the same, from somewhere, like this , those same scammers and those same pedophiles will still crawl out, they will be found, that is, while we still have this, it
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will be we will now cancel or block or slow down to the point of actually canceling it, as happened with youtube, the internet, we are cutting off huge opportunities for development, yes, we are depriving scammers of one. such a proposal, but i understand perfectly well that it will certainly be impossible to create a completely sterile information environment with or without the internet. in any case, that is , the internet is a blessing. the question is how to manage this blessing.
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unfortunately, we really have a negative example for us, for our country in the form of youtube as a service, which is initially not bad, but this service is essentially now used by our geopolitical opponents to pump up. what to do with this? this is a really big question, and i believe that blocking youtube at the moment is, well, impossible, why? because by and large we don’t have domestic alternatives that today, hop, with a snap of the fingers , will completely duplicate all this, therefore.
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especially in qatar. every second resident there uses tools to bypass the blocking, according to this indicator, they are in first place in the world for... citizens even hold special conferences where they are taught how to bypass bans. we are talking about censorship on the internet, and how to bypass it. there are many nuances that you, as an ordinary person, can use to bypass the blocking. instagram is banned in russia and hasn't been working for three years, so vpn services are also popular. according to the results of last year, the number of their users has grown by 37%, compared to 2022.
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you know, this is not, well, god forbid, well , well, let's not talk about the fact that this really depends on life, what they said about education, about everything else, it doesn't work in connection with social networks and wikipedia, you see, if you see, this is the story with the trampled path, here was a path, i want to walk along this path, it doesn't matter that something
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changed, this path, excuse me, leads to a swamp, i'll still climb there, no, well you can walk, you can return in stubby carts, why all this excess, andrey, are we in a position to build a fence that no one will climb over or is it very expensive and such a fence is simple. here about, so that there is no deceit, someone will always be able to get through, crime always exists, drug addiction, the question is, what percentage will remain, yes, i am sure that from a technological point of view, the fact that now roskom supervision is destroying vpn services, if it strengthens its history, but we can reduce this part to insignificant, it is impossible, that is , to prohibit it 100%, let's say it right away , it is impossible to block it 100%, let 's say yes technically, let's be satisfied with, for example, 5%, yes, that is, now we have 100% of people who can go somewhere wherever they want.
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, half, half of the users. they generally do not approve of this story with the slowdown , someone still works, roskomnadzor should take a closer look, there are comments where people are angry that youtube is slowed down, others suggest reading books, finally instead of youtube, well, and the most interesting thing in my opinion - this is a proposal to block only propaganda, that is, to create a window of sorts in youtube, when a good video is something like how to cook you an omelet or some historical lectures.
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and the answer, the very first answer, you see, youtube works at my work, i'm shocked, unlike you, even youtube works at work, it seemed very good to me, so everything is 14:00 ntv, we are meeting in the program place. meetings that cannot be changed. that's it, we're leaving, see you tomorrow. over the past 24 hours on the territory of kursk in the region, ukrainian troops lost 19 units of armored vehicles, including western models. and kiev admitted that it had discussed the operation in the kursk region with the west. strela on duty about how anti-aircraft missile units of the central military district are covering the skies over our positions in a report by maxim berezin. gas negotiations in a reduced composition.

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