tv Mesto vstrechi NTV September 30, 2024 2:00pm-4:01pm MSK
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beijing is promoting a korean scenario for ukraine. there is still a lot of work to do in this group. right turn. austrians vote for nationalists for the first time since wwii. is europe really going brown again? passport control. they want to ban dual citizenship for russians. is it possible to love two homelands at once. for russia. i'll shit myself. watch right now. hello, this is the meeting place on ntv, the place where everything becomes clear. i am andrey norkin, my colleague ivan trushkin, we are working live. before we move on to operational news about the situation in the area of the special military operation. the news, it must be said, is good. again.
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meaning, as for the news from the front: firstly, a unit of the western forces group liberated makeyevka, this village in the luhansk people's republic, it became known in connection with the murder of twelve russian prisoners of war by ukrainian thugs in 2022. makeyevka is the fifth settlement liberated by our troops in a week. russian troops also defeated the vsoo brigades in kupinsk area, in the kharkov region, also in grigorovka in the village of torskoye. the enemy lost about 450 people. ukrainian sources bitterly report on the advance of russian troops along the entire front line. so, for example, the deep state resource, well, let's be honest, is saddened by the fact that russian troops have already taken fire control of the road along which the garrison of the ukrainian armed forces in ugledar is supplied, well, they write that the city is actually surrounded. there are reports of battles in the east of ugledar, there they are putting pressure on the positions of the ukrainian armed forces in the abandoned by residents multi-story buildings. similarly, ukrainian sources
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describe the situation in the battles for toretsk, where russian troops have already entered the central quarters of the city, the advance is noticeable in the pokrovsk direction, west of the recently captured ukrainsk, and according to the tas agency, in the area of the city of selidovo, russian troops destroyed an important logistics hub of the ukrainian armed forces, in this area all supply roads are cut off or under fire. the successes of the russian army, of course, do not fit well with the terrorist's victory plan, which is being hyped up in all parts of the color.
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and the press secretary of the president, the press secretary of zelensky, thank you speredon pavlovich, so there are more than enough hints there, but we, if you remember, at the end of last week tried to somehow discuss the results of zelensky's visit to the united states, excuse me, please, i have a technical difficulty here, yes, and my head is very big, there are a lot of brains and the earphone is squeezed out, and mine sits well, apparently, there are not very many brains because you need to draw conclusions.
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to promote your own peace plan for ukraine. the first meeting of the participants of the new platform took place last friday on the sidelines of the un general assembly. in the final meeting, russia and ukraine were called upon to de-escalate, asked to do without nuclear weapons and strikes on the energy sector. plans are now in place to hold their own
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peace summit, where they will discuss the chinese-brazilian settlement project. china is currently playing a constructive role, acting as a mediator between the various parties and promoting peace talks, instead of... countries that are tired of paying for someone else's conflict. beijing said that 110 countries support the friends of peace, but only 17 showed up for the meeting in new york. among them , three were from europe. along with hungary , switzerland and france suddenly appeared on this list. as chinese diplomats explained, they had asked to be there very much. this.
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this was also a surprise for the ukrainian leadership: kiev has already attacked the swiss for such a stab in the back. ukraine is disappointed with resentment, the ukrainian foreign ministry said. switzerland hosted the peace summit in bürgenstock in the summer and seemed to have firmly defended interests of kiev, where they still consider the so-called formula to be the only option for settlement. there are no friends.
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slipped through, well, it seems to me that switzerland really, as we have already said, since it was the site of the so-called fake peace summit, saw that all these meaningless meetings were not leading to anything, that is, it looked, got acquainted, so to speak, with the so-called documents of zelensky, and wants to continue there, let's assume for the next meetings, but already with real people who with real people, real countries, so that there would be at least some.
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switzerland needs it, because more and more countries, people, well, thinking in the world, see that zelensky has no plan for victory, no plan, so to speak, for existence, they are directly worried about. is this what the swiss are? well, people, so to speak, thinking, worry, firstly, secondly, here it has already been said, yes, the minister of foreign affairs of china spoke, they called on ukraine to refrain from strikes, so to speak, on energy facilities, they listened to this and immediately struck again on zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant, they attacked energodar there, the substation, well, that is, people see that, well, for us it was so obvious that zelensky is completely inadequate, he is not interested in anything, well, we will go now, personally for you then...
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does not supply hungary with long-range missiles, and the french supply this scalp of theirs, you understand, anyway, we will have to negotiate with those who stand behind ukraine, anyway, it will come with the french, with the germans, mainly with the staff, we will immediately try to twist this puzzle a little, because these friends of peace there is a feeling that they are just like that from where. china and brazil back in may together proposed their solution to the conflict around ukraine called it the peace plan of the global south, there are six points, the key one is the call for an immediate ceasefire. along the front line, and then long negotiations, that is, the so-called korean scenario, the remaining points
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are devoted to de-escalation, the beginning of peace talks and the exchange of prisoners. this group still has a lot of work to do, we are ready to help them with advice, the main thing is that they base their proposals on reality, and do not take them somehow from abstract conversations. the plan to freeze the front to start negotiations does not suit kiev at all, which constantly repeats: about the borders ninety-one, it also contradicts the russian position, after the unsuccessful istanbul experience our country is ready for a ceasefire only after there are no ukrainian soldiers left on the whole of russian territory, and kiev refuses to join nato. washington is skeptical about china's efforts. i also emphasized our strong concern about china's support for the russian defense industrial base, which feeds the russian war machine and perpetuates the war that china allegedly wants to end. in july, the game viktor orban joined, the hungarian prime minister flew around the world in 10 days, promoting peace
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initiatives, was in kiev, in moscow, also flew to washington and beijing. hungary has recently become china's main european friend. in may, orban and chairman xi signed an agreement on strategic partnership, and orban called china a key force capable of creating conditions for peace. china and hungary have similar views on the international and regional situation. we must actively and urgently promote. ukrainian mfa, at that time it was dmitry kuleva. in china, the ukrainian diplomat was the first since 2022 to immediately announce that his goal was to discuss the role that beijing could play in ending the war. well, ukraine, ukraine has not caved in to any of putin's ultimatums. not to his terrible military strike. and ukraine
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will never, not even by 1 cm, bend if anyone in the world, no matter from which part of it, tries to speak to us in the language of an ultimatum. and the last piece of this mysterious puzzle. narendromodi came to kiev in august. the indian prime minister visited ukraine a month after his visit to moscow was then told that modi was continuing orban's shuttle diplomacy and preparations for peace talks. i came to you with a message of peace. you understand very well that india has contributed to the cause of peace. our approach is human-centric. i want to tell you and the whole world that this is our conviction, our commitment, and we say this loudly and clearly. alexey sergeyevich, why should all these friends of peace be active at all now? these are friends of peace who are actually for us, and we somehow asked them to be active in the way we need. or are they pursuing some pragmatic goals of their own, outline them then? well
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, of course they are pursuing their goals and they are pursuing the goals of peace, you asked a reasonable question, why is france... not very generous towards ukraine, it looks like an ultimatum: give up the lands that, it means, joined russia, disarm from nato, don't join, and there is a third plan, which seems to be trying to find some common ground, because for the ukrainian plan to work, the armed forces must be near moscow, for it to work russian plan, russian troops should be on bankovaya, and vladimir zelensky
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should drink tea in moscow, yes in the area of matrosskaya tishina, while this does not happen, this very middle plan comes to the fore. already western countries so, well , okay, zelensky's plan does not work, he did not show anything interesting, let 's see what you offer, that's why switzerland and france are on this list, and what is their interest, that they really want peace, or what, well, first of all, they want peace, because special military operation all the accompanying difficulties affect global economic processes the world is literally in a difficult situation all these people who left all came back the lifting of sanctions mosardi almost went bankrupt now they announced that you know we... shit ourselves, we are opening all the stores in russia, because nobody, the phrase is worth remembering, fugue boss all came back, yes, accordingly the lifting of sanctions in one form or another or softening can be this part of this middle compromise plan, but we need to understand that the compromise the plan will also require compromises from russia, the position that the russian president
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voiced, it does not assume compromises, to start negotiations, i am not saying that... history is beginning to attract more and more partners who want what is achievable, this middle ground, this compromise , they want, this is an important question, they, of course, want peace, they want to raise their own political significance, do we need peace on these terms, i wonder, here wang yi said that russia, russia and ukraine are close and the only one.
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any plan that is written outside of ukraine is rejected outright, well, that was the case with the chinese plan, that was the case with the brazilian plan, that was the case with the african plan, and in general, any initiatives that come from third countries regarding regulation, ukraine does not accept, they have only one plan, zelensky's plan, they continue to impose it, where to say, here is zelensky's plan, as they say, it is very good, yes, probably, in the west it is also good. your plan is very good, only the question is how to implement this plan, well, how to reach the border there of ninety-one and so on, this is an unrealistic plan, absolutely, therefore, of course, everyone wants to get some of their own. political dividends, there are a lot of participants in this conflict, everyone at a certain stage gets their own political dividends, someone got them at the start of the war, for example, the british, yes,
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who completely destroyed all the agreements and actually dragged ukraine into this conflict, someone got their dividends during this war, yes, well, for example, the same americans, relatively speaking, yes, captured the energy market of europe, german producers are forced to go beyond the borders of... deeper, and russia said this in december of the twenty-first year, yes, the continuation of the war, what does it mean for us? it means for us exactly that the west is not ready today for a dialogue
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regarding a full-fledged dialogue with russia, regarding a new security architecture in europe, therefore they continue this peaceful rhetoric on the one hand, on the other hand they continue to support this conflict, financing, supplying weapons there and so on further, their readiness to sit down at the negotiating table and... themselves there, well, meeting all these countries, at least the swiss publicly, although this also caused a certain irritation in kiev, stated that it is impossible to resolve this conflict without russia,
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as for the french, well, i don’t know, maxim of course knows the french better, maybe for them 360° turns do not mean exactly what berbak was talking about in relation to 360° turns, but i don’t know, maybe they, as spies, want to be present and also to promote some of their ideas within the framework
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a fourth one may appear, because what china and brazil are proposing is perceived as a kind of middle plan with a tilt towards , don't you think that this is very similar to trump's plan, about everyone dispersing along the line of contact and quickly reaching an agreement, that's exactly what i'm talking about, that is, a fourth plan should appear, which will be a little bit tilted... towards ukraine, also such a middle one, why is it needed, like this, so that it looks like a compromise, including for russian federation, but this is an even number of plans, there is none, if it were odd, then it would be possible to do something - we don't take the point, we again have a counter-point , well, we don't take the radical one, you get a plan with a tilt towards russia and a plan with a tilt towards ukraine, what 's the difference, then it's off to the races, let's drag russia out of these platforms or into two at once, maybe even into two, and where it will be possible to come to a better agreement, because ukraine will also trade, the chinese could somehow the french, in this regard, no,
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listen, there really is pressure, but it is mainly in relation to china, for example, there is a big scandal in france now, that in museums, in two french museums, the word tibet has disappeared, they call it in chinese, that is why human rights activists there are outraged, but here - it is not so, in fact, it is not a matter of vital importance for china, here the word dragging has been heard, that we can be dragged into one of these peace initiatives, are there not fears here that those very... friends of peace, i am not talking about the french here, this is all decent people, basically we have normal relations with them, that they will drag us to some wrong place, where it will be awkward for us to refuse them, well they will try to somehow, no, in my opinion, mr. lavrov very clearly said that these guys still have a lot of work to do, which is very popularly explained, that there is no peace in fact, you understand, this is a very convenient story, you say, the french came, and why not come, in general you can go to a large number of banquets,
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when you are not obliged to anything, maybe come to the first, second, third, fourth, france does not sign anything non- binding, as we know, france, when it signs something binding like the minsk agreements, it also does not mean anything, you understand, people play out exclusively their own policy, it all comes down to one simple thing, the question arises, washington does not want, does not intend to, it does not establish any peace, truce or anything, and you can write at least 50 initiatives to china, which it will, you know, it reminds you of how the story of the arab-israeli conflict, you can write a huge number of peace plans that... simply will not be realized in life, well, decent people have gathered, but we need to talk about peace, it is better, of course, when people do not beat each other's faces, but live in peace, why not talk about it, while not a single, not a single message, neither there nor here, for the implementation of this plan, because here the conversation begins, now china will come and start putting pressure on russia, everyone is accustomed to the fact that in some global processes on the other side the united states plays the first violin, here it seems like without them at all co-organizational.
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france got into it, although england was more interested, england used france, all the land battles were won by the french, they took sevastopol, so, next is the peace congress, 1856 in paris, the english will lose their hands, oh, now we will squeeze russia, suddenly to the horror of the english, napoleon ii takes the position of russia on all controversial issues, what role now?
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the trial of the leader of the national rally party, marine le pen, began. they like to call her both the kremlin and the far right - these are well-known labels. li pen is accused of embezzling 3 million euros from the budget of the european parliament, allegedly to finance her own party. if this guilt is proven, then marine le pen will be banned from holding public office for 10 years, or she may even be sent to prison, and if you listen to representatives of the european parliament, then marine lepen - that's right... according to the newspaper welt, in the coming days
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, bundestag deputies will vote to deprive the odg of funding, raise the issue of banning its activities, after which, if these ideas are supported by the majority of parliamentarians, they will send an official request to the court demanding that the party be banned, recognizing its activities as unconstitutional. in total , four parties are participating in this conspiracy against the afd. in general, the triumph of democracy, andrei, to ban some by depriving them of parliament, and simply imprison the other. apparently, the french are also in general as if the winners of the elections were removed from government positions, and the germans are doing great, in fact, in kiev they are doing the same thing, if something happens , when the kiev top brass understands that they have once again screwed up, so thoroughly, some extreme people are found and they are disposed of, it seems that now there will be another stage of this big traditional kiev purge, the ukrainian and new time assures that the head of the ukrainian military intelligence is an extremist and a terrorist
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budanov is about to fly from his post. it was he and his department that were behind the most high-profile ukrainian terrorist attacks in russia. it was rumored that budanov, like the former commander-in-chief of the zaluzhny, would go into honorable exile to diplomats abroad, but modern sources claim that the intelligence officer-terrorist will simply remain unemployed. a successor has already been found, allegedly fifty-five-year-old oleg ivaschenko, who now heads the foreign intelligence service of ukraine. with the cia and mi-6. recently, the minister of defense of ukraine
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umerov fired two of budanov's deputies at once for inefficiency of the soviet approach, similarly, they dealt with zaluzhny's deputies, shortly before his dismissal. this is the situation like zaluzhny. zaluzhny suited everyone perfectly, because he was replacing poroshenko's general staff at the time, but when he became popular, he became inconvenient, he was sent into exile. now a similar story is happening with budanov. rumor has it that the current one is too.
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plans are written there and so on, these summits, all this is aimed at what? at finding some kind of solution to resolve this conflict, and in order for it to to settle, it is necessary that at the negotiating table, even if they take place, there are representatives of the legitimate authorities, this is fundamentally important, especially for the russian federation, i do not exclude, of course, it is possible
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to start negotiations with people of dubious legitimacy, but they must be completed exclusively, all those named here are not... absolutely loyal, they do not show themselves, look, who poses a direct threat to zelensky? the military and security forces pose a direct threat. why am i talking about military security forces, because zelensky understands that the future president will not be elected by the ukrainian people, he will be appointed in the united states of america, and the united states of america understands the consequences of any peaceful settlement of this process, that is, inside ukraine, this will be perceived ambiguously, any attempt to settle this war, so what needs to be done? we need to bet on some authoritative military or security official who will be able to subsequently maintain the situation inside ukraine, so they are now looking for such security officials, and zelensky is in order to do his figure without an alternative, trying to destroy everyone who in one way or another enjoys at least some popularity among
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ukrainians, that's the whole story of all these personnel changes, alexey sergeyevich agree that this is preparation for some elections that have not yet been announced and named, or is it some other. does not work, zerensky's plan, which all this time since february 22, 24, the second year 24, worked, now does not work, because there is little help, there is no success at the front, there is no success in management and there is no main thing, there is no image future, for which ordinary ukrainians suffer there, accordingly, some new plan is needed, what could this new plan be,
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it could rightly be a plan for some kind of peace negotiations, a plan for compromise, but it could also be something else, it could be a coup d'etat with the coming to power of some radical military man, ready to carry out terrorist attacks every day in russia, to push russia and the west into war, to provoke russia to carry out nuclear weapons, that is, this is precisely not in the direction of softness, but in the direction of toughness. zelensky plays this role of a moderate politician here, because there are people who are much tougher than zelensky, who will push russia and the west towards a nuclear conflict, why? because they understand that if this conflict ends, ukraine...
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budanno, budan, this is an extremely hyped figure, i will emphasize again, all attempts talking about him as some kind of genius of intelligence and counterintelligence is a greatly exaggerated story, because precisely because he is a personified figure, he is an advertising figure who puts forward what is happening behind his back, it is not him, and this is a figure that will irritate zelensky, why, if it is kolichko, kolichko has connections with the germans there in europe, he can explain all this, look, it means that everyone who was removed, it means that there are traitors there.
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problems begin at the front, so here, unfortunately, the situation is a dead end and there is no way out in sight, because even if we draw up all sorts of schemes, some more moderate politician will try to compromise, so he will be overthrown by those 15%, this is a minority, but an exalted minority, moreover, if it has weapons, subjugates ... the majority has always been everywhere, unfortunately, so they will not allow anyone to go to some kind of peaceful reasonable agreements, understanding this, and zelensky has become so radical, and he will not change, what is the way out of this situation, all hope is only on senior partners, that the west will put them in such conditions that they will have to submit against their will, sometimes cigars are just cigars and here people are tied to specific projects that were either hung on them, or
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are associated with their name, for example, last year's counteroffensive is closely associated with the name of zaluzhny, it failed, zaluzhny, well, they remove him, but softly, but they hang dogs on him, and syrsky is now closely associated with the kursk operation, which, well, judging by everything , did not go according to plan, and also not so much that there were many successes at the front, therefore... it is reasonable to get rid of him too, what project will be next, will it be in a more peaceful direction or in a more militarily radical one, it will probably be possible to understand by the figure that will appear in place of this or that character, while they are talking about budanov being removed, then information comes from other sources that he is being left, it seems like the americans are standing up for him, therefore here there are a lot of questions, but i think we should get rid of tsirsky, as a person, as a loser. as a person who did not implement his project, there are failures in the donetsk direction, the situation in kursk is unclear, one of these losers, whom
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at the store and the man punches her several times , you can tell by her face. the antihero turned out to be a 46-year-old local resident, now he is with the investigators, a criminal case for hooliganism has already been opened against the detainee, he faces up to 5 years in prison, he himself seemed to apologize to the old lady, but he was unable to explain the reasons for his behavior . he hit the granny in the face on the street, than naciveroy dostok, it happened, how much? with my hand, where on the face, i apologize to her, doctors, despite these shots,
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did not find anything except bruises on the old woman, they say that her life and health are not in danger, the granny herself talked to journalists and says that she does not believe the speed of repentance of this hooligan, so limited that ... no words will reach him, all his repentance, they are feigned, he is feigned, i am a teacher, a psychologist, i see, he has not repented, he is simply scared, it is hopeless for him seized, in addition to law enforcement, how the authorities react, the mayor of ulyanovsk made the hooligan, so to speak, a truly manly offer, he advises to show fighting spirit not on the streets of the city, but in the svo, in the combat zone. well, and thereby atone for his guilt, i suggest the grief-stricken hero to do one of the few truly manly acts in life and make the only correct decision in this case to conclude a contract with the ministry of defense to be sent to the
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special military operation zone, his young fighting spirit will be very useful for confrontation with enemies, besides, it will be a good reason to reconsider your views on life, learn to respect your elders, protect your words, so in this story... everything is always with me, those who leave under contract are their own - these are really people who commit a manly act, a real one, but sending all this, this, in my opinion, is not all right with his head, to arrange some kind of laundering, well, i don’t know, i don’t have a clear-cut one, let him answer according to the law, as it should be, and then there i don’t know, please, if you rethink...
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unfriendly united states and live there. according to public figures, many people come to russia to earn money, and then spend the money in their new homeland. we are talking mainly about singers, actors, journalists, but the state duma is sure that if these people do not hold government positions, then they can have as many passports as they want. in our country, there are people with dual citizenship who enjoy influence, including public influence, but they do not hold government positions, they have the right to dual, even triple citizenship, for example. vladimir poznar. the current law allows only acquired citizenship to be revoked for certain types of crimes, such as threatening national security. social activists suggest going further. two years ago, the veterans of russia movement demanded that celebrities' russian passports be taken away if they could not decide where their real homeland was. as an example, they cited the newly converted israeli citizen ksenia sobchak. i received my passport when the world around me began to collapse and it became clear that i you need to protect yourself from... while
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i didn't have a passport, i directly said that i didn't have one, i didn't specifically report receiving it, it is important to note that after 2022 , the number of israeli citizens among russian celebrities has noticeably increased, after the start of the special operation , sobchak's ex-husband, actor maxim vetorgan, left for israel and settled there, from there he scolds russian politics on social networks. rapper inaget morgenstern also received an israeli passport 2 years ago just in case, says he is jewish. his grandfather, although he settled in dubai because he is hiding from idf summonses. the press writes that the rapper received it in the summer, but he somehow doesn’t want to go fight for his new homeland. i love this country, these people, but like politics, all military actions and so on, leave that to them, okay, i will never support violence, under any circumstances. former head of rosna anatoly chubais with his wife avdotia smirnova after the start of the svo, was spotted in the migration department of one of the israeli cities. although in may 2022
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he justified the trip as a business trip for work at a local university. some then claimed that chubais was no longer anatoly borisovich, but moisha izrailevich, and that he no longer intended to live in russia. a donkey in the promised land and artist-foreign agent semyon slepakov. he received an israeli passport because he considered himself a jew all his life. activists recently demanded that he be stripped of his russian citizenship after an offensive song about svo fighters. the agent responded to them with another composition, which many considered mocking: not russian, the blood of the father is not important, not russian without a piece of the end, not russian, i was unlucky, not russian, i global evil, so a survey, open
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our telegram channel, enter via qr code, today we have prepared many answer options for you again: should holders of several passports be deprived of russian citizenship, so i offer you the following options: no, it's their personal business, yes, those who have passports of unfriendly countries, yes, those who received foreign citizenship after the twenty -second year, yes, only those who... and the last provocative option: i myself would like, i myself wanted an israeli passport, here we vanya always calls on you to vote honestly, i actually support it too. i'm honestly interested in how many will vote for the fifth option, so where is andrei nikolaevich, about the duma, so, as far as i understand, this letter arrived on friday, i think, on friday the chairman of the lower house vyacheslavich volodin already said that in general, somehow, probably, they won't even consider this initiative,
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could you somehow clarify the fate of this, this is not a legislative initiative, it's just a kind of proposal to talk and think about this issue, what the proposal... well, as they say, requires discussion, well, that's what we're here for , all together, let's discuss, my personal opinion is that there really is a gradation now, there are ordinary citizens, i don't know who does what, someone might be an entrepreneur, they really do have dual citizenship, but they use this citizenship, maybe even in the interests of russia, they go somewhere, buy something there, somehow import something, and we know of such cases, many of them... then, by the way, they arrest them there and put them in jail there prison, precisely for this, for the fact that they use dual citizenship to do business with russia and to benefit russia, that is, these are our agents, our agents, but they do not work for the special services, they actually work as if for themselves, and that's all,
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all of them, no, of course, but, but such a category also exists, as for those about whom there was a story just now, you know, there's a tricky point, we will deprive them of citizenship, it turns out that they are completely outside our jurisdiction, i think that... after that i want to understand, a person, receiving a passport of a foreign state, maybe even an unfriendly country, after a special military operation began, everything that followed from that side, we consider him our citizen, and he receives a second one, we say, well, well done, you're not an official, everything is normal, normal or
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abnormal, that's what i'm telling you, these are two nuances here, you need to understand the goal, if he receives it in order to help russia, he's a good man, he risks his life, because his... he's been... for how many years how he died, but he retained russian citizenship, and that, here is a person who, so to speak, left in the same year with my father, it was some 2000, i don’t know, so the ninth, here we are now a person who received, well, i don’t know, israeli citizenship.
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citizenship, no country can avoid them, for example, in estonia there is one citizenship, but if a child of russian parents was born in estonia, he has the right and yes, according to by birthright he is a citizen of history, but also by birthright of russian citizens, he is also a citizen of the russian federation, it is impossible to simply take away his citizenship, we have a situation in which, when there is a ban on having a second citizenship. such a citizen, for example, of the same estonia, estonia, he cannot have citizenship, we will also have such cases, wait, by birthright, this is one story, there we need to look at it very carefully, i am talking about people who, after 18 years of age, have a russian passport and nothing else, they consciously made a choice that they need a passport of a citizen of a country, people want to have property, sometimes citizenship is a property, let's say, necessity, because you can't have.
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i don't support it, there are many aspects, but since there are many respected experts here, i will only take one aspect: look, the road to the at is usually paved with good intentions, in this case it's the same, in essence, if you reduce this proposal, with which i do not agree, to one proposal, this should be for one person to have one citizenship, right, right, let's get back to reality, a decree by the president has just been passed that we should accept citizens of unfriendly countries, we give them the opportunity to escape. migration to russia,
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because a person who comes from the usa, from canada, he doesn't even need to know russian now, he comes here, gets a temporary residence permit, then gets citizenship, they immediately tell him, you must choose either one citizenship or another, you are now from our question, no, no, we asked the question, i will ask it again, if, so that you... understand exactly, there are our people who were born in our country, who after, well, let's say, after the twenty -second year, after february 24, consciously with their own feet, with their own heads, go and make a decision about what they want, for example, a spanish passport, or a french passport, or a german passport, and we tell them, come on, dear people, everything is fine, it is your right, vote in our elections, continue to receive russian social benefits, if you receive any, nothing itches in you from the point of view justice. ivan, i only have russian citizenship, i don't need any real estate or other passports, but ivan, i'm not a lawyer, but i
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ideally, no, ideally, ideally there should be no dual citizenship, this is nonsense, dual citizenship was introduced in the nineties in order to tie our, god forgive me, elite more firmly to the west, and dual citizenship is not only rights, it is obligations and first of all to serve in the army, so there should not be dual citizenship, it imposes certain obligations, when it arises, what we do, we have relatively good people, there are relatively bad ones, who are all sorts. let's look at this very european convention on citizenship of ninety-seventh year, to which the public figures refer, there is article seven, in this seventh article has points according to which the state can deprive citizenship, and there are such points, as they would say, that this is different, well, for example, causing some
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significant damage to the interests of the state, service in the army of a foreign state and there are several points, which we have for... well , that is, that is, we analyze the specific story of each, yes, we analyze each specific story, then we make a decision, this one, let it be with two passports, but think i just mean that this european convention is much tougher, oddly enough, than our legislation is good, let's take a break so as not to get confused save time, so dear friends, vote, vote as always wonderfully, actively, we will continue in a few minutes. well, what about going to a detective or an action movie? a new season of your favorite tv series. help yourself, as joseph flavey said, you can't change fate, even if you foresaw it. dmitry polomarchuk. yes, i will never have a quiet, peaceful life. andrey
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i will remind you of our question: should holders of several passports be deprived of russian citizenship, one answer - no, it is their personal business, several possible answers - yes, here are possible options, those who have passports of unfriendly countries, those who received foreign citizenship after the twenty-second year, only those who are declared extremists, well and... somehow limit this story, of course, not for everyone, only for certain categories of citizens who are elected somewhere or are civil servants. three years ago, before the start of the svo, president vladimir
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putin banned civil servants from having dual citizenship, and military personnel were also prohibited from having someone else's passport. and then the scale of the problem became clear. a wave of dismissals of civil servants who turned out to be foreigners swept across the country. in the leningrad region , a moldovan deputy surrendered his mandate; in the krasnodar region, two civil servants were fired. in august of this year, a senator was detained dmitry savelyev, he is suspected of organizing the murder, at the same time it was discovered that all this time he had a british passport, and also a mansion in which
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such cunning citizens in july a bill on discriminatory taxation was introduced to the state duma, the authors proposed doubling tax rate for those russians who refuse to renounce the citizenship of an unfriendly state. you are a close person of vladimir putin, you have a russian passport. you can somehow decide to make a choice, and any person can decide to make a choice, and you know, it is difficult of course to comment on everything after such not very flattering examples are shown, and i still very much hope that this is an exception from all those citizens who have russian citizenship abroad, very unpleasant exceptions, but if you look at the root of this whole situation, then the problem is not that they have a passport of some
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other state. but the problem is that such relations have now developed between our states on the lists of these states, you are flying somewhere right above the clouds, i will tell you one of the most popular comments now, you know, what irritates people, a person lives, well, let's say there in the west, earns money, pays taxes, and then comes here, with a russian passport goes to get free treatment for either teeth or hemorrhoids, that's it this is for some reason.
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regarding the fact that among civil servants, among officials, such purges have actually been going on for a long time, without unnecessary noise, hype, what is called this blogger dust, really such a big mechanical internal work will find and this is wonderful, there is simply a law, there are no questions at all, the second point, you know, we are talking about something like that, you know, in general, today we are trying to stretch some mythical owl onto the globe, and we have specific situations that require a solution
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here. now, for example, we have citizens russia, who are included in the list of terrorists, extremists who do not live on the territory of russia, today they can only be deprived of those who have acquired citizenship, those who have it as a product, for some reason they cannot be deprived of citizenship, and it turns out that there are terrorists who are seemingly very bad, and there are slightly bad ones, some can be deprived of citizenship, others cannot be deprived of citizenship, there is a big chimera in this, therefore at least these processes need to be carried out today, well... a list in the register of extremists and terrorists, what is this will it give us? i repeat, what will it give? because these people live in many places outside the territory of the
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voting like this, so now is it necessary to deprive holders of russian citizenship several passports, no, that's their personal business, yes, those who have passports of unfriendly countries, yes, those who received foreign citizenship after 2022, yes , only those who were declared extremists, i myself wanted, i myself wanted an israeli passport, so what... viktorovich mentioned, yes, a new decree that was signed in august by the head of state, here we have a kind of dispute, so the meaning of this decree simplifies the procedure for foreign citizens to come to us, but nikolai viktorovich is somehow not very this is all, as i understand it, supported. let's look at the plot. vladimir putin signed a decree in august, according to which foreigners from unfriendly countries, americans, british, french, canadians and others, will be able to become russians. if a foreigner does not agree with the spiritual and moral policy of his country,
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then he can get a temporary residence permit in russia in a simplified form, outside the quota without knowledge of the russian language and history. british edition: maybe there are others, i don't know, russia is vast, the richest resources of power, which is going in the right direction and has the power to defend it, others may want it too.
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from brazil are engaged in agriculture in primorsky krai, many have to fight bureaucratic difficulties, and new compatriots are not always friendly to strange immigrants, they poison cows, spoil crops, set houses on fire, some even returned back to brazil, if you look at them wrongly, people can simply cut everything, send all sorts of
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rosnadzor and not that, in short, who can be sent there for cows, they are already annoying, of course they were still poisoning them and didn't stop poisoning them, yes they were poisoning them... but he didn't expect that they would send him to the svo. a year later he managed to have his contract declared invalid, he went back to denmark. so, nikolaych, you said that.
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those who are on the side of good, they they should have the opportunity to move here as a guest in the ark and let them have problems with citizenship for now, let the problems be bureaucratic, it can all be solved, by the way, this does not contradict the deprivation of citizenship, because they come here as refugees, they do not claim citizenship yet, and we cannot ask in our noah's ark, for example, you have been sailing on our ark for 5 years, you have already settled in, you liked the ark, well... come on, old man , decide, then you will stay with us on the ark, you will leave your russian passport, you get citizenship, or you, excuse me from
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our ark, go back there, let's have it all, that's really, almost the first time, i will say that nikolai starikov said the word hype, and this is real hype, because you found 10 citizens who scold the state and want to harm them, in the end they will suffer. grandmothers, grandfathers who have grandchildren there, who have tens of thousands, you do not want, for some reason you do not want to simply forget about these citizens, i was talking about those people who already have sentences that are entered into the relevant lists, which already on formal grounds, on legal grounds it is necessary and should be voted fourth, those who are declared extremists'. these at least yes moreover, you know, we have now raised a very correct situation, but in many ways a painful one, that people are really coming to us today, there is such a tendency,
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who want to live adequately and normally, who are not alien to conservative values, therefore there should be a simple fork here: come to us, we are glad, but be kind, say goodbye to your past citizenship, since you are with that life, in fact, not got along, but the second point, these people should freely and adequately receive russian citizenship here, because it is pathetic on their part today. the first time i got myself a piercing, because my parents did not allow it, i sat and pierced my own nose, then i was able to pierce
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