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today on our program: elections can be held during military operations, democracy on call, terrorist zelensky decided to hold presidential elections in ukraine, how will voting take place in trenches and at gunpoint, it is impossible to hold such elections now, the nuclear threat is growing, israel is preparing to strike iran's nuclear facilities, will the west get involved in the middle east?
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iran made a big mistake, and it will pay for it, then remember the past. these days , more than 80 years ago, the munich conspiracy took place, how europe is trying to hush it up shameful page of history. this munich, the so-called sgor, well, was the first step to unleashing the second world war. watch right now. hello, this is the meeting place on ntv, the place where everything becomes clear. i am andrey norkin, my colleague ivan trushkin, we are working live, today we have, in my opinion, a very unusual program, it is so, you know, our script resembles a stained glass window, many, many bright, very colorful pieces, which, nevertheless, i hope, will come together to form a single picture, here is the first hour you can to talk, this will be a conversation about the crisis of democracy, the second is probably about the ability to somehow analyze your...
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very effectively, about the effectiveness of the iranian strike on israel, there are some questions here, i suggest today not to discuss this topic in a debatable way, we will collect information, but we will of course tell about what happened, let's start with the statement of the prime minister of israel: this evening iran made a big mistake, and it will pay for it. the iranian regime does not understand our determination to defend itself take revenge on enemies.
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a worker on the west bank of the jordan, but a piece of the rocket simply fell on him, he did not even die from the explosion. as for the consequences of this attack, there are also two versions: iran claims that they were targeting gas platforms in the mediterranean sea, three military bases near tel aviv, and at one of these bases up to twenty american-made f-35 fighters were destroyed. according to the iranian version, the israeli air defense system also got it. what does israel say? israel does not comment on these reports at all and does not talks about any military losses or damage, here is the footage that we will show you now, published directly by tehran, this is actually footage where the command of the islamic revolutionary guard corps gives the order to begin this attack. it is reported that the iranians used hypersonic missiles for the first time, these missiles are capable of flying 2.0 km, but despite such a militant video and pictures, iran almost immediately after the attack declared that the continuation of hostilities with ... the publication,
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it is close to the white house, as you know, reports the first details, allegedly these very retaliatory actions should be expected within 24 hours, that is, today, and the response may be more significant than all previous actions of israel: the israelis, according to axius , are considering the possibility of striking iran's oil and nuclear facilities, as well as attempting to assassinate the leaders of the islamic republic, in fact, this is exactly the strategy that former israeli prime minister naftali bennett voiced on cnn. what israel needs to do immediately is to strike iran's nuclear and energy facility, and also to attack the regime itself, because iran made a fatal mistake by launching 200 ballistic missiles at israel. at the same time, cnn reports that
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the white house has not yet consulted with israel regarding retaliatory measures and does not know at all how tel aviv is going to act, what it can do in such a situation. true, they also stated that they allegedly shot down several iranian missiles with the help of, in my opinion, their own ships stationed in the region, but that was the limit of their participation, well, in any case case, let's put an end to this topic for now, we will collect information with the hope that some uncontrolled surge, uncontrolled
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escalation will not happen in the near future, by the way, rosaviatsia, as far as i understand, has allowed our planes to fly over the territory of iran and in israel today from wednesday. but now suddenly in ukraine they are talking again about the need to hold elections, we touched on this issue in the last program, but what is happening there, why, who needs these presidential elections in ukraine, and can they be held at all in the current conditions?
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insight into the secret preparations for the presidential elections in ukraine was reported by verkhovna rada deputy oksana sovchuk. according to her, the local izbkom center began analyzing polling stations taking into account the quote that currently exists.
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march of this year, but they were cancelled due to martial law, and now sources of economy. claim that the terrorist zelensky is interested in holding the vote in order to strengthen his own power. despite the fact that in last year, all the main political forces agreed to postpone the elections until the end of the conflict, the possibility of holding them next year in order to consolidate power is being discussed. how fair and competitive the proposed elections will be can be judged at least by the number of high-ranking defectors, the latest high-profile cases when people were forced out of the country for political reasons...
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the competitive struggle apparently does not bother them at all. the west has been demanding elections since last year. in pos, they stated that kiev is obliged to hold a vote on the charter of the council of europe. terrorist zelensky then as well as... this is absolutely not a democratic story, there
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in this case can we say that everything is turned upside down, well, there are in fact a great many theories of democracy and there is no single democracy to which we can turn to compare the situation with the ukrainian one, what is happening now with ukraine is a dictatorship in the classical sense, the word dictatorship, it comes from the latin language, that was the name an ancient roman magistrate who was appointed during the war, so to speak, with absolute power, absolute some... absolutely the ability to do what he wants in order to resolve this situation, and vladimir zelensky today in the classical sense is certainly a dictator, since he rules the country almost blindly, but it is clear that this is the classical sense, today in order to strengthen power in ukraine, in order to take it somewhere further, they need to hold elections, because society cannot be in this constant situation of uncertainty, the ancient roman dictator was appointed for a certain term, for six months or a year, as the pra...
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it would be a gift for russia, if an election campaign started there now, and they
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understand this, they will not go for it, that is , there is no serious western icon, listen, well , something was said there at bse, hand, anton vach, can i ask you a stupid question, and does it not occur to you that there is at least a 1% probability that the terrorist zelensky generally understands how everything will end sooner or later and wants to leave the unit's location beautifully, to leave the unit's location beautifully - this is to organize a certain.
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therefore what, what was it, that is, this is this internal seething inside, that is , zelensky's opponents, the internal opposition, which is thus pushing him , putting pressure, or really these negotiations, this preparation is underway, the next fork - this preparation is underway, and in the technical version, that is, it is always necessary, that is, in the case of ifvich, so that we hold on,
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the thought, no need to finish the thought, you just tell me how this relates to democratic principles, it's normal after all. very means the choice will have to take place after if the elections take place after peace or a truce then it's obvious that he will lose these elections it's quite possible he wants to conduct a maneuver i understood everything before to conduct now here you answered me and how now it correlates with democratic these very easily it correlates very much.
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this week in france the trial of the leader of the national rally party marine lepen began, the accusations are loud, allegedly madame lepen stole almost 3 from the budget of the european parliament million euros for the needs of her party, if the politician is proven guilty, she will be banned from holding public office for the next 10 years, or even sent to prison, the theft of funds from the european parliament through the fictitious hiring of assistants to meps has been going on since 2004. the party.
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germany, it also advocates for improving relations with russia and lifting sanctions. according to the newspaper wilt, members of the bundestag will vote for the decision of their rivals from the afd financing will raise the issue of banning their activities.
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to designate the system, which in in the west's view, when this system was created in germany, it was opposed to the so-called totalitarianism, left and right, communism, national socialism, that's the system.
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systems are a car with a 15 or twenty gearbox, a transmission with 15 or twenty gears, that is, there is a very fine -tuning system, when you tighten the laws,
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it is not visible to the public, how these laws are tightened, if you go for a direct ban on the activities of a political party opposing you, then your box with twenty, i do not i know, but maybe it is within the law, but it is not very democratic i will answer you. who will tell you democracy about this i said now i will answer and okay, let's stop at these three, so that there is time for me to answer, look, the party system of left-right practically no longer exists, the center of the cdu, christian democrats and social democrats have gone very far from the center into the globalist agenda, it is the so-called green agenda, this happened at the beginning of the 2010s, and the press... the mainstream press suddenly discovered that it did not take into account moment of new media. the afd is playing on all fronts with this press. this moment no longer
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works. the bureaucracy, which slowed down all sorts of processes of going left and right with subtle mechanisms, is now working against the system, which needs to quickly react to the arrival of the od. and then completely different mechanisms began to work, this is an attempt. and murder, there is such a thing. so, here on the afd, the alternative for germany, what you were talking about, yesterday a representative of the christian democrats spoke out, who said that it will not pass
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this story about the ban at the federal level, why? the christian democrats, who in the evenings in the same bathhouse with the same deputies of the afd, don't want it , they don't want it, it's inconvenient, it's not necessary, besides, they already understood, that's when this massive anti, excuse me, was launched against several regional branches of the afd , it's been going on there since 1918 or 1919 or 20, in any case, to say that it
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just started is a clear contradiction with the facts, and france, where lepen now i am only talking about this, and much more damage to the dg is caused by the statements of their leaders, who say, well , not all ss men were scoundrels, there were decent people there, this naturally causes quite a large number.
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have you heard of any stories when people were imprisoned in russia for registering their driver as an assistant, they pay, yes, here is about the same kind of story, only they document it all more, they only try to punish, that's the problem, they do all this in russia, probably, they do it all and there too to think that it is done in france, i doubt it, and the fact that this investigation has finally sped up,
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you know what they call fascism there? in france now the country is in shock from history. a nineteen year old girl named philippine, a student at the university of paris, was raped murdered in the bois de boulogne by a moroccan immigrant, who 2 years before had already been sentenced for rape, but for some reason did not sit, sentenced somewhere in france, in france, yes, he should have been deported, not
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sent away, here he is, although the police... gathered a rally to honor her memory with a minute of silence, the scum and scoundrels from milanshon's party, the ultra-left, organized a counter-rally at the moment of the minute of silence they began to sing the italian song siamu anti-fascists, we are anti-fascists, that is, those who pay increased...
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just says that democracy as such has long been a myth, because these conversations about how someone there does not tolerate fascism, the same europe considered it quite democratic to hold a march in honor of veterans of the ss legion in latvia, an absolutely democratic march in honor of veterans of the division with golechin in kiev.
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you are simply using this old as the world thesis that the end justifies the means, the alternative to germany is bad, therefore any methods can be used against it, there tomorrow it will be communists, again these are pro-russian forces, again anything, you understand, this is just a very good indicator of europe's return to the beginning there democracy today is absolutely a myth, we even see this in america, you see, the same thing, where it all comes from, what is used against... trump and how this use, this sham and declaring any person an extremist, no matter what he did, this is exactly the method, this party, let's remove it, because it's not the fascists, actually in the sixties in france they fought the communists in exactly the same way, they also built a system of cooperation and other parties, so that god forbid the communists would not break through to the leadership, i'll say it very simply, but let's let's remember what democracy is, the power of the people, yes, a very simple translation, that is , where the people are in those schemes that you
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described, they are not there, that is. it is very simple that the hegemony begins to destroy this element, fight it, exterminate it and throw it out of the system, he says, gramsci writes about class bo, of course, but he does not write it the way we said, that there are workers separately, we have a bourgeoisie separately, but there is a system that links all these
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classes into homeostasis, from which no one wants to leave, when this appears infantile, who says: i will leave this agreement, they say, so get out of here , sistemaevich. only revolution will save the masses, no, revolution, by the way, why did he sit, because he was imprisoned as an incorrect marxist, if you didn’t know, because he just uncovered this mechanism and said, excuse me, the communists have the same thing, you have the same system in the soviet union, i have a proposal to stop now, then consider another example, i just want to see the rights and wrongs, wrong, this is the system, yes it will always kick this infantry, who appears from somewhere, we are right now.
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worked like a red rag. ukrainian diplomats have now rushed to justify themselves , declaring that such negotiations have never taken place and will never take place, sibiga himself responded militantly. not territorial compromises, but full responsibility of russia and the restoration of territorial integrity and sovereignty of ukraine, including crimea. otherwise, it will be a postponed war. europe. cannot afford to have gray zones or frozen conflicts. all this news is quite disturbing to the verkhovna rada, if not all the deputies, then some of them. they have now taken a swing at accusing the terrorist zelensky himself and his military leaders of treason, not a little bit. some of these deputies are indignant that, at the instigation of the kiev authorities , for some reason, suddenly, suspiciously, the mobilization, which, according to their feelings, was somehow still going on, has somehow slowed down, why suddenly? the government and the supreme commander-in-chief have
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the task of mobilizing the nation and the country, this is the main task that should have been done they, now, where we have a decline in mobilization compared to what we had, this is also their responsibility, so we are done with the news from kiev, we return to infant terible, without declining, yes, i stopped in time from starting to decline the word terible, if i had reached the genitive case, it probably would not have been very nice, therefore. since we mean georgia under infant terible, we will talk about this difficult, very difficult child of european democracy, because in recent years everything has been fine in georgia from the european point of view, now damn, there is simply nothing democratic left in the country, simply nothing at all, let's look at the plot, parliamentary elections in georgia will be held on october 26, two parties will fight for a constitutional majority, the ruling georgian dream,
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no attack, so that no one ever has a desire again, we will be ready in case of interest of the parties, we will be ready to help. at the same time, tbilisi spoiled relations with kiev, the ruling georgian...
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and here against the backdrop of this stormy pre-election campaign, western voices are expectedly heard. firstly, brussels criticized the law on lgbt propaganda adopted in tbilisi. the leaders of the eu countries have already made a collective statement that the process of georgia's accession to the eu has been suspended. secondly, washington is expressing strong discontent. the americans were most outraged by the georgian law on foreign agents. and the fact that the georgian authorities ignored hints that it should not be adopted. in tbilisi, not only did they not listen, but they actually wiped their noses and washington and kiev, declaring the ukrainian youth organization svaitanok the first foreign agent in the country. as a result, last week biden demonstratively withdrew the invitation of the georgian prime minister to a reception at the white house.
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this is not serious, they themselves sent the invitation, and the next day they withdrew it. such behavior by the white house is, first of all, an insult to america. the american people. yan yanych, from your point of view, have the georgians somehow trampled all democratic canons? i don’t know, i don’t think they have trampled all democratic canons, but that, that law that they passed, which was, as far as i can tell, i don't read, of course in georgian, unfortunately, like in armenian, like in many other former soviet languages, you prepare so poorly, you studied poorly, obviously, well... as far as i can understand, it looks like a tool for the authorities to shut the mouths of their political opponents, that's why they criticize it, if you 're talking about the law on foreign agents now, about the law on foreign agents, that's actually the main thing, and the ban on lgbt, the ban on lgbt, and the ban on what, actually lgbt, the lgbt movement, i don’t know about that, and
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the ban on lgbt, but with the same success you can ban, for example, being left-handed, yeah, why not, here’s the ban of the propagandist.
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not actually sitting not in prison, in a fairly well-paid hospital, mr. saakashvili, i remember, did not accept legally, but simply shoved various objects into certain places in prisons for his opponents, and this from the point of view of washington, brussels and everyone else, was very democratic, in fact, they did not criticize him for this at all, so i say again, not we need to consider this some kind of a priori pursuit of some kind of democracy, people are simply pursuing all their political interests, simply for... habitually trying to clothe it in some kind of shell of a shining city on a hill, from which the correct circulars emanate, okay, and what will all this turn out to be for georgia, well, it is quite possible, yes, they will call it a black sheep, as if from your last question , from the extreme, yes or as the last, i don’t like all these edges, i don’t like it either, so just in case, it means, the extreme,
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as you know, there is only flesh, yes, okay, i agree, probably, yes, so, it comes back to yours. someone is really for democracy, no, well, it's just a tool, the georgians encroached, i mean the ruling party, encroached on the sacred, firstly, they, it means, foreign influence, it means, they tried and shit-eating influence, and i remind you that this is very, very soft.
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so, apparently, i have not seen the internal sociology of georgia, apparently, this bill, the second law of the progbt enjoys the support of the population, yes, that's it and this gives the ruling party a chance to actually win these elections accordingly for the program the meeting place has not been mentioned anywhere in russia this has not been written about what is happening now in belicia a powerful landing force of western political scientists analysts representatives has landed there so i just have a very good contact of mine there in tgis is located so i ask her a question, i say, what do you have in your program? well we are preparing for the elections, to understand what the situation is with the elections, we will
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meet with representatives of the opposition parties, i say, i wonder, will you meet with representatives of the ruling party, she says, unfortunately, we asked, but no one agreed to meet, but - she tells me, we will meet with president salome zurabishvili, i say, so it's the same, it's the same opposition, that's why. they get embarrassed, immediately switch to russian, they have no complexes in this regard, they have very good relations with russia, so this is an indicator of
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what the georgian dream government has led to, plus we also talked there 13 or 11% of them from year after year growth of vp, so obviously there is a crisis of democracy, yes this does not mean that democracy is bad, we are just curious, in our points of view, a crisis of democracy in georgia or a crisis of democracy in europe? no, in general there is a crisis of democracy all over the world, democracy is now in crisis, the problem is that today the west, like the soviet union in its time - has taken on the exclusive role of the world, so to speak, conductor of communism, so the west today says that democracy is what we have, modern western democracy, which is called liberal, this is actually a rather tough teaching, for example, if the people want, the power of the people to expel all illegal migrants, the democrats will say no, will the people want it?
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which now could be exclusively in the western world, they are trying to export it to us, saying that when you build
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a proper democracy, the one that was, remember, here i am, uh. in the nineties, i and the democrat here the most important one was boris nikolaevich, so then you will be happy, and if you pass a law on inagetah, which completely copy the american one, then you are the wrong democrat of democracy, so let's stop, probably, yes, since i am saying, we have such a mosaic scenario today, now a short pause and we will continue, this is the northern direction. american presidential candidates for their almost thousand-year history, modular shelters are every 100-150 m, part of the forest area is also controlled by the russian military, in european capitals they thought about it, the results of the week on sunday at 19:00 on ntv. varangians, the final, today at 20:00 on ntv.
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on ntv, a place where everything becomes clear, we continue during a pause. we figured out the word acclamation with the letter a, it begins, in this regard, i told alexey sergeevich that he wants to show his education, he always talks about the incomprehensible, therefore, dear friends, i ask you to speak more clearly and not confuse either me or our viewers, you, dear friends, will now have to participate in a survey, i will voice the question itself after the story, and the topic we propose is, in general , this: how right is it for the leadership of a particular country, well, and not only for the leadership, but for the population in general, to try to forget some not very pleasant pages of history, well, as if it were not there, you understand, if
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you keep fiddling with this, fiddling with this, fiddling with this, and this can have some bad consequences, we just forgot about it in the textbooks where it is written, well, okay, we will analyze this using several examples, but first vanya has news about our fugitive oppositionists, they something like a government in exile or whatever they are. fugitives, i would call them that, get ready to dive into the terrarium and the viper toad, because there will be a lot of this news about the opposition. and the first news from washington, there, two steps from the capitol , an embassy of the russian opposition is about to open, that's what they call it, the online publication of the system reports about it, this is one of the avatars, one of the faces of the radio liberty agent, about the imminent opening of some kind of representative office of resistance to the putin regime, everything in quotes, or as they themselves have already called it nicknamed the creators of the washington regional committee. three sources reported at once: the very idea of ​​creating an opposition embassy is attributed to the foreign agent radio liberty and the so-called congress of people's deputies, led by an extremist, terrorist
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, fugitive criminal ilya ponomarev. this so-called embassy will be located in the center of washington in a mansion worth 2 million dollars, this mansion was bought by some unknown patrons. so that it is clear, in fact, whose interests this washington opcom will defend before. the publication, as the press writes, will install the flags of nato, the european union, this white-blue white flag, which all these fugitive oppositionists consider the flag of the beautiful russia of the future, which they will build. in this building , the opposition plans to hold some kind of meetings to discuss the overthrow of putin's regime. the first get-together of these far-sighted freedom fighters has already been scheduled, scheduled for early november, right after the presidential elections in the united states. extremist and terrorist. mr. panomarev is now actively is cultivating american partners on another topic, he is trying to take control, his structures are trying to take control of those territories of the kurdish region where the ukrainian armed forces are currently located.
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the extremist complains that his movement, the congress of people's deputies, has not yet been recognized by anyone in the world, so such a step of transferring control to them over at least some territory, this will mean global recognition. in principle, this should be done, and he said that the congress of people's deputies - which i have the honor to be, can cope with this task, but if the ukrainian leadership has other candidates, let there be other candidates, the important thing here is that the job gets done. and now the toad gadyubking begins, why is this very congress that the extremist panomarov spoke about, it would seem that its primary task is to support this gentleman himself, but no, at the event, last sunday in warsaw, these conditional comrades-in-arms wrote a denunciation of panomarov, accused him of dictatorship, and... accused him of corruption and of creating fakes. mr. podomaryov himself, an extremist and terrorist, in response accused his associates of supporting the coup. so, i'm done with the toad-slinging. well, it seems to me that these are definitely not the events, not the ones, not
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the activities that will go down in history, so we can definitely forget about this, without any negative consequences. but here's what someone might want to forget, but can't. we'll look at a few examples.
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"these were the years when the party, based on the interests of the people, critically assessed the situation in agriculture, in industry, took a number of serious measures in order to make a new, major step forward, relying on the successes achieved. at the twentieth congress of the cpsu, khrushchev delivered a closed report in which he demanded that the delegates forever debunk the cult of stalin's personality. for four hours, khrushchev thundered.
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leninsky will boldly condemn the mistakes and distortions generated during the period of stalin's personality cult, reject those methods of party and state leadership that have become a brake on forward movement, or the party will gain the upper hand forces clinging to the old, resisting everything new and creative. at the instigation of khrushchev, everything connected with stalin in the soviet union began to be mercilessly erased and devalued. the chinese comrades did not like this. the great
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friendship between the countries cracked and this split grew rapidly. by the end of the sixties , relations between moscow and beijing had deteriorated so much that it came to armed border conflicts on damansky island near lake zhalonashkol in 1969. so, a survey, please, give us a telegram channel enter via qr code and you will see the following question there: do you think it is right to expose? stalin's personality cult, today we offer you three possible answers, one yes, two no, which means the first, yes, we must be able to admit mistakes, the second, no, it created discord within the country, the third no, we need to return the monuments to stalin, that is, you see here, yes there are differences, so as always , you can post your own answer options or some thoughts on this topic in the comments, i hope that today there will be a lot again voted, so: and dmitrievich, let's
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get personal right away, if i was informed correctly, your grandfather, yeah, worked first under iosif vasilievich on the ideological front, but that didn't stop him from later preparing a report for the twentieth congress, yes, i'm interpreting that very report correctly, well, he participated in the preparation of both reports of the big closed one, he wasn't the only co-author, but naturally he was later horrified by... what the campaign to expose stalin turned into, let's just to explain to our viewers that your grandfather is exactly that same shipilov who joined them, yes, here is his personal attitude to , here is how he, he agreed that everything here was a cult of personality, it must be debunked or here, i agree, but not like that, he said, it was impossible to do so, well, since you have comrade maudzun here on the splash screen and so on, look how the chinese exposed the cult of personality.
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also, well pushkin, let's say, do you think he said that the genius of villainy are two incompatible things, he did not say this, he asked, it turned out, isn't it, if not i'm wrong, yes, he asked, the question is up in the air, a combination is possible, they should have acknowledged that this is good, this is bad
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, such an example, because thanks to alexander sergeyevich, many people consider soleri a bad person who poisoned mozart, well... wait, don't confuse me, with your chinese experience you are starting to confuse me, the cult of personality, stalin's, some kind of negative phenomenon that needed to be assessed, but in our country it was done not quite accurately, incorrectly, not with the right methods, not with the right methods, that is, rather in total, did it bring harm to the country or not, this is such a debunking of the cult of personality, this is rather harmful. rather harmful, yes, it was necessary to do as the chinese did with mau za, okay, that's all, answered, alexander nikolaevich, in the pre-interview, as far as i understand, you say that we need to talk about history, it is absolutely necessary, and forgetting historical lessons is very bad, are the methods, when how we talk about history, the methods with which we push oblivion aside, important
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or not? well, you know, i believe that methods are always justified by the goal, depending on how... now i will also say the anti-tonian spirit, but the thing is that in fact this is a thesis at least since the time of machiavelli, and in general since antiquity, well it doesn't matter, so khrushchev set himself the task of preserving...
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we are taught this, but this is what they teach, yes, great, but i have not learned this in my life, so accordingly, the chinese did this in accordance with their cultural tradition. khrushchev did this in accordance with the cultural tradition that existed, if he had not done this, then most likely the lord is all communal, this is his understanding of cultural tradition or this.
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from your memory, yeah, here's something a person did, after which it's for you, it doesn't matter, yes, something like that, that is, i can do it quite easily, i this person ceases to exist for me, and am i doing the right thing, that is, now we are talking about a country, the country crosses out some, not one, there 10 pages of its history and does not remember about it, that's just a good example of that very tefton tradition, here the germans forgot, crossed , pretended.
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in this year they have roots, in fact, in this khrushchev report, explain, well, the moral rightness of the soviet people was destroyed, well, to make it clear, imagine now the president of the united states comes out and says: i must tell you the terrible truth, it was we who blew up the northern streams, we are not fighting for democracy, in fact, we are killing children with carpet bombing, and we have been living for centuries by sucking out the juices, gentlemen from all over the world, but we... have mustered the courage to tell this truth, so that together, united, we can move further into democracy future. our task in europe is to keep all allies weak, so our bases are occupation. will die immediately from what was said, he himself will be intimidated and no, it is impossible, look, the results of khrushchev's rule and the report,
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the loss of the most important ally of china, the loss of the base in albania, the loss of the world communist movement, which has ceased to feel itself the vanguard of humanity, and most importantly, if you just read khrushchev's report, 80% of what he said there is just a lie, just a lie. 20% are some real facts, therefore what needs to be done? look how our current president corrects mistakes, well , or even not only mistakes made by the previous president of russia and the only and last president of the soviet union, and the previous president of russia dmitry anatolyevich medvedev, what did he do, i mean of course boris nikolayevich yeltsin, thank you for correcting the chronology.
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no one pays much attention to it about the chechen war, it is a danger, well, like a conflict between two peoples of the russian federation, as for abkhazia, it is quite impudent behavior, countries, we recognized as countries that are completely dependent on us and nevertheless allow themselves, well, and he really was a hero for them there, here we are simply asserting ourselves, well, not that we are asserting ourselves.
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we didn’t do damansky because there is no need, such victories over countries that are important to us now as partners, there is no need to remember, there is no need to celebrate, there is no need to remember how we also had a lot of problems with the chinese, how they had the boxer rebellion, how they cut the russian empire in beijing, and how ours then blagoveshchensk drowned them in the amur river, no need to remember this.
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we should forget or we are not the ones living myths, and
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even more so myths - the previous generations of our ancestors lived, and the myth. about the genius stalin, geniuses of all times of peoples of all sciences. then the myth that replaced him, and the villains stalin, who alone, single-handedly, with his own hands strangled hundreds of thousands of people, including the wonderful holy leninist guard, which itself was shoulder-deep in blood, if not waist-deep, if not... bathed in this blood, what is stalin? stalin is the face of our country in the twenties, thirties, this is how our country looked, this is how our people looked, as if one mi was superimposed on another, how do you figure this out, he was striving, he was ready for
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sacrifices, yes, but he was cruel, so that he did not take into account either the victims or the emotions of millions of people, for the sake of the set goal, our people were ready then for any of their own and others' sacrifices, whether it was good or bad, judge for yourself, then at that time, maybe it was inevitable, but today, those who today raises stalin. napedistan, this is a completely different matter, a completely different era, completely different people, today raising stalin on pedistal, people say, we want to repeat all this, but can you, remember the slogan, we can repeat it, but can you really repeat it , and are you ready to dip your belt in
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someone else's blood, and most importantly your own, and are you ready to send your own? their children to slaughter, as the leaders of the old bolsheviks sent, time, i 'll interrupt you, excuse me, then answer the question anyway, well, is your attitude to those, who wants to put him on a pedestal, does this mean that we should forget about stalin altogether, and not remember him, or just don't put him back in the front row, we should take this issue seriously, well what does seriously mean, and seriously means what did he do?
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ntv, the place where everything becomes clear. we continue and it is extremely curious, i would even say, unconventional, that today the poll is being held in our telegram channel. firstly, it is already more than 12. vote, and now we will try to see how our neighbors in the east in china look at the dark, difficult moments of history, we are talking about the cultural revolution, which at the official level beijing was nevertheless
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recognized as a mistaken course, well, and if you look now in 2024, there is no sprinkling of ashes on heads, there is another page of history, for which there are no battles, on september 16 of this year in new york at the age of 77 died. song bin-bin, once an icon of the great cultural revolution in china. the girl became a symbol of a difficult era in 1966, after a call from above to crush the bourgeois elements. song, together with her classmates, noticed the bourgeois nature of the director of the school where she studied. the woman was tortured and then killed. china, and then the whole world, saw song bin-bin on a poster with mao, where she put on his armband of the red guard on the sleeve. song's fate is symbolic in terms of china's rethinking of that period. in the eighties, after the official end of the cultural revolution, the former heroine was sent to the united states to study, where she remained, having received political asylum. i believe that
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the cultural revolution is a mistake that the chinese people have experienced, we must remember this bitter historical lesson and never let it happen again. during the cultural revolution, when mao cleansed the party and society of all filth, the victims of the purges were according to various estimates up to one and a half million people. official beijing even under denseupin. knew that period was wrong, then they tried not to remember it much, everything began to change in the last decade. the communist party has long taken a course to boldly admit the right. analyze and decisively correct the mistakes of our leadership. we analyze absorb the events of the past in order to learn a lesson from them and move forward. now the cultural revolution is first of all a life experience, not necessarily in dark tones. historians they argue that the current economic victories would not have happened if the country had not gone through such a difficult period back then. and it was very official, everything was idealistic. the chinese political and cultural
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elite wanted to rethink what happened. but at the same time, the chinese, ordinary peasants, were not victims of violence. the attitude towards the idea of ​​the cultural revolution in chinese mass culture has changed. modern youth enjoy doing graduation photo shoots in the hongweibing uniform and like to visit cafes stylized as those times. and the director the opening ceremony of the 2008 beijing olympics was directed by a director who became famous for his film about the cultural revolution. andrey anatolyevich, can we adopt this approach and admit some mistakes?
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russian culture is spatial through and through, just look at the globe, at the heart of russian civilization is a good sense of space, mastery of space, but we have a weakened sense of time, including historical time, for us this is a very painful topic, we, frankly speaking, have a poor sense of time, and that is why such disputes, that's why we still argue about rurik, what stalin, what rurik, when was he even unknown, and... and these are
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living disputes, that is, for us history is synchronous, it was not there sometime ago, it is here now, it is inside us, so it is directly and therefore here and it is very difficult, how is it, how to remove it from the russian person, it is impossible, it turns out from what you are saying, it is written in our destiny not to stop these battles, and since history continues, there will only be more battles, realizing that we have such a tense, painful attitude towards time and soft changes, well , just knowing this.
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that excuse me, they did not have a collapse of the political system, the collapse of the country, that 's all, and the fact that we are talking about the cult of personality of stalin, well, let's be honest, few of us seriously consider stalin in a historical context, namely without their political ties and preferences, yeah, everything works with the category of good and bad, why? and because nikita sergeyevich, when he crushed comrade stalin, he decided his own political tasks, not really thinking about global prospects, it didn't bother me much,
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well, he was a short-sighted person. in fact , stalin didn't have strategic thinking in principle, well, in the eighties, in the eighties , stalinism was used as a battering ram to solve their political problems, if you look at the west and open it up, then the gulag, stalin and 70 years of the soviet era are set up like this, like a huge scarecrow, and for some reason we continue to play the same game, you know, either this way or that, but as if a game play for us then, no, excuse me, but we are sitting even in the studio that was built. by the soviet regime, for the fiftieth anniversary of the soviet regime, whoever does not like the soviet regime, should leave this studio, guys, because it itself is not, we have already rebuilt it, its market russia 20 times.
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it has been used for 30 years, now it is partially used as a political instrument, awareness of the figure, you understand, the chinese comrades are solving the problems of the future, rinsing mau is absolutely categorically unprofitable for them, since this will negatively affect the future in first of all. andrey nikolaevich, can we discuss such historical plots without political tasks, or is it impossible, discuss, but the problem is that what do you want? well, i'm trying and i want to note that i'm anti-soviet, but i won't leave the studio, so, respected andrey
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said very interesting things that just need to be translated to a simple everyday level, when i talk to the chinese, why did you dismantle the entire maui regime, dismantle all socialism, but in your words everything is so soft, they say that... there were hundreds of millions of people who participated in this sincerely, some suffered, others were sincerely red webins, we cannot these hundreds of millions of people, many of whom are alive, many died, but this is our grandfather, whom we remember, we cannot offend them, humiliate them, humiliate people, this is not chinese, chinese patriotism, as i read huzenping today, it is based on the fact that first there are the interests of the whole nation, then the interests of the group of people to which you belong, then interests of one person. this is patriotism, that is, it is necessary to respect the interests of many people, not to humiliate them, therefore gently touch upon historical mistakes, so maybe it is in the interests of the whole nation, if again we are trying to take up arms for a second or two, to stop discussions about
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stalin altogether? no, just do it the way the chinese can, yes, well i understand that it is impossible, we have a different country, but respecting the people who lived then, who participated in this, were mistaken, simply respecting people. compatriots, yeah, yeah, in fact in fact, there is a chinese recipe, it just needs to be improved a little and adapted to us, here is the chinese formula, mao had 70% correct decisions, 30% mistakes, stalin is not a saint, he had 70% correct decisions and 30% mistakes, we are not talking about mistakes, but about achievements, a discussion, it was necessary to do the five-year plan even faster, was it necessary to encircle the army group in the caucasus after the stalingrad encirclement. well, about the civil war, here we are who, or rather this way, who we recognize as right, not even that way, do we offend representatives of one camp or another, so, first we erected monuments there to the heroes of the civil war from the red side, and
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then president putin, whom you cited as an example today, personally ordered that denikin's ashes be brought and came to his grave after the burial, since i... let's look closely at what the president is doing, he really knows how to work with this historical material, as you said so well, both of them are ours, and there can be monuments to both of them in russia, with one exception, those who served the enemies of russia, those who betrayed russia, like vlasov or kolchak, it can't be, adinik didn't betray russia, just like budyonny, such a discussion will begin here. oh, let's do it, we won't remember admiral kolchak now, we'll take a break, i'll remind you of the poll again later and then we'll look at another example, there's a european one, hello everyone, oh, hello,
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this is the meeting place on ntv, the place where everything becomes clear. we continue, our survey continues. so, first of all, i must tell you, dear friends, do not suspect us of dishonesty, there are several comments. well, whoever treats us sincerely,
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agrees with this, whoever does not believe, well, does not believe. so, do you think it is right to expose stalin's personality cult? yes, we must be able to admit mistakes. no, it led to a split within the country. no, we must return the monuments to stalin. and now the third european example: the collective west, well , at least in part of europe, also has its own pages, which historically, they do not really like to remember. here is one of them - the munich agreement, a little more detail now. september 30, 1938, a date that the west prefers not to remember. britain and france, with the help of the usa, entered into a conspiracy. c'.
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london and paris have not yet officially apologized to either the czechs or the slovaks for the crimes committed against their state. this year, september 30, was the eighty-sixth anniversary of the conclusion. the same thing should not happen to ukraine as happened to czechoslovakia after the signing of the munich agreement. the question is whether we should confront the aggressor, or whether concessions can lead to achieving some
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result. the munich agreement clearly shows us that concessions did not save the world. at the same time, the czech republic is modestly silent about its role poland in the division of czechoslovakia and collusion with hitler, warsaw accuses the ussr of unleashing the second world war, believes that the molotov-ribbentrop pact led to the war, and poland became a victim of collusion. it is impossible to begin to describe the history of soviet-polish relations, starting from the events of 1945, the german occupation. it must be remembered that the soviet union greatly contributed to the beginning of the second world war, as well as soviet soldiers, together with german ones.
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on the contrary, it is advantageous for us to remember and highlight the role of poland in the thirty-eighth year, by the way, hungary played a bad role there, but this is just possible, while the hungarians are good, this can be consigned to oblivion, how can you not get confused, when on what day should someone be considered good, who is not good, you can’t fight with everyone, you can’t fight on many fronts, you understand, when now we start to roll cylinders on the cossacks, on the uzbeks, no need, we have one main front, and we want to line up with everyone.
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