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hello, this is the meeting place on ntv, the place where everything becomes clear, i am andrey norkin, my colleague ivan trushkin, we are working live, today the world is waiting for the outcome of the conflict that sharply escalated a year ago, i am not...
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the eastern conflict after october 7 flared up with new force, today in the west they believe that israel should take advantage of this symbolic date of the year, to strike iran, because in israel they consider iran responsible for the actions of hamas and hezbollah, well, plus october 1, that's when iran conducted another missile attack on israel, it seems like there hasn't been an official israeli response yet, at least according to the publication... the washington post writes that
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everything will somehow be resolved literally in the next day or two. they have such a symbolic counter. they launched it the day before, announcing israel's readiness to attack iran within the next 48 hours. according to the washington post, all american troops stationed in the middle east have received orders to go on alert and, oddly enough, searches shelters in case of alarm, how one goes with the other, i don't quite understand.
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iran has already launched hundreds of missiles twice on our territory and on our cities, committing one of the largest ballistic missile attacks in history, no country in the world would allow such an attack, this also applies to the state of israel, we have a duty and a right to defend ourselves and to respond to these attacks, and we will do so. suspicious activity was noticed by users of the servicedar, this site tracks the movement of aircraft around the world, here users noted that immediately. four american aircraft tankers moved to israel, they are capable, if necessary, of providing fuel to 100 bombers at once, which in terms of scale, if theoretically 100 bombers will be used at once, of course, does not correspond in any way to some symbolic response to the iranian attack, cnn is also hyping up, there, citing a certain high-ranking official from the state department, they report that the white house tried to get from israel guarantees that there will be no strike on iran's nuclear facilities. but tel aviv
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did not give such guarantees. at the same time, the israeli state television and radio company kan claims that washington is bending over backwards to dissuade benjamin netanyahu from striking, offering israel some kind of compensation package in exchange for such a refusal. this is some kind of broad diplomatic support and a new weapons package. now the white house is hinting in every way that it is not very pleased with the israeli prime minister. for example, us vice president kamala harris in an interview with cbs evaded the question: does washington think so? does the us have a truly close ally in netanyahu? with all due respect, it is better to ask whether we have an important alliance between the american and israeli people, and the answer to this question is yes. but the destruction of the iranian nuclear industry and all facilities associated with it is supported by donald trump. by the way, he scares voters with the outbreak of world war iii day after day, but here, apparently, somehow.
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they said that hundreds of people died then, and thousands were injured, including children, but september, we, of course, about this , this publication calls this one of massad's most inventive operations in the entire history of the special service, and reports the sinister features of this operation. so, according to the washington post, the idea with killer pagers
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came to israeli agents in 2022. before that , massad allegedly successfully wiretapped hezbollah members for 10 years using improved radios, but 2 years ago there. decided to turn electronics into a weapon, here's how the publication writes, the israelis almost themselves developed a model of pagers with a hiding place for explosives, the devices were programmed in such a way that they would cause maximum damage to the user during an explosion, they were activated both remotely and with a special combination of buttons, this is how encrypted messages were opened, to do this, open an encrypted message, you could only press these buttons with both hands, that is, the person holding the pager received the maximum possible injuries after the explosion. we still have many details to learn about these pagers, because each subsequent version next week contradicts another previous, to be honest, i would like nothing like this to happen again, and the way they did it, well, to hell with it, you said, as you said, trump's logic has changed,
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but it's awful, awful, awful, war, war, let's fuck it, i just when you said it, i remembered the episode that preceded the beginning of this conversation, there too, as if he had a little bit of such interesting logic, at first.
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they don't need advice, they act independently and completely without regard for any consequences. on the weekend, the israeli army under the slogan of fighting hezbollah was turning beirut into ruins. the bombings continued almost around the clock. foreign journalists working in the city called the attack one of the largest in history. the israelis claim that hashem safieddin, the new leader of hezbollah, was killed in the strikes. iran is expecting strikes from israel as a response to the recent rocket attack from the islamic republic. the israeli press claims that the attack on iran was planned last week, but required the go-ahead from the united states. the israelis were waiting
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arrival of the head of the pentagon's central command, michael kuril. he arrived in tel aviv on saturday. at the same time, israeli television is calling for bombing tehran without regard for... instead, israel has escalated the conflict by opening two new fronts against iran and lebanon, although the war was initially waged against hamas. the biden administration is also afraid of possible
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israeli strikes on iranian oil facilities, which could drive up oil prices, and a month before the us presidential election, this is not at all, by the way, due to the rising cost golon fuel democrats. so aleksey sergeevich, what do you think, what point of view will ultimately prevail in israel, i think, that is, there is a kind of extermination, and there is an even more, i don’t know what to call it, yes, i think that now the most hawkish point of view will prevail, because israel is now on what is perceived inside the country as a series of victories, the entire iconostasis of the hazbala leaders has been destroyed, the bombing of beruta is underway, hamas on gas. so it all started with the fact that we will now free the hostages, the hostages are not
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released, but what you, wait a minute, gegorg, what you say, that means, outweighs, that, everyone forgot about the hostages, i think that the goal of a significant part of israeli society is the release of the hostages, the goal of the israeli leadership today is to deal the maximum blow to all of israel's enemies, the issue of the hostages has been pushed into the background, why because today it is obvious that israel is a stronger country than iran, remember. that is, in principle, american assistance is not needed, you understand, israel is very
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an inconvenient ally for the us today, israel does what it wants, and then comes to the americans and says: what if you refuse my support, what if you hand me over to the arabs, what if you allow vladimir putin and his arab allies to dominate the middle east, vladimir zelensky does exactly the same, by the way, and recently an interesting article came out in economies that both zelensky and netanyahu are very inconvenient allies, they hold washington by the collar and... tell it to help, otherwise your enemies will win here, that's why israel now, seeing that he has inflicted quite a powerful blow on both hezbollah and hamas, and iran will continue to press until he is given a suitable military response, and iran, as we see, cannot give this response, all it can allow is a fireworks show, which has been here for a few, can we just somehow change it, purely a game, this greco-navist, come on, grecophobe, why me, what kind of phobe am i? when israel attacks lebanon, you need
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to understand that lebanon is twice as small there in territory, twice as small, twice as small population, this rival can be tough, iran is tough for israel, if we talk about a full-scale war, well, just compare the population, just compare the territories, capabilities and so on, similar, israel without western support is not capable of these things at all.
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iran basically showed the holes in all their air defense missile defense systems rebooted this entire system showed actually demonstrated that next time... when there will be no advance warning in case, even if it is not land there some operations, and they will simply throw missiles, that israel will have a very hard time, that it will fly to gas rigs, rigs and oil refineries, anywhere, including military facilities, so that as for s no, stop, that theory, well, it is the same theory as yours in general it turns out not to be a theory, american publications admitted that the missiles flew to the military base , they flew to the israeli one, you say,
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the consequences here are much more sulfuric history.
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sat, sat, and then jerked a year ago, and then they did not bomb it like they do now, there more than half of the buildings in the gaza strip, they are gone, or they are very seriously damaged, to the future, to the future, that means, the blow that israel will strike, we have no doubt that this blow will be, it will be a blow that will unleash some kind of military conflict, well, because there is a format of a blow, when you cannot help but respond, or it will still be somewhere in the direction of the desert, the israeli
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leadership will come out and say, we struck where we wanted, hitting barns now is absolutely not in netanyahu's interests. because the second the first task is to finish off the proxy, the second task is to provoke iran into a direct war with the us, for this it is necessary to strike iran with such a blow, after which tehran will simply be forced to strike israel even more, thereby provoking american military intervention, and israel will not do this only in one case, if netanyahu's arms are twisted so much by the americans that he abandons his strategy, i think it is necessary to twist arms, they are not interested at all, bush jr. and america are not in the period of bush in their power now, now the united states absolutely does not need a war in the middle east with their participation, because it will distract their attention from ukraine, and they are also in a conflict with china, well, they simply do not have enough resources, they will have to abandon ukraine, regarding the possible consequences, that's right, because we traditionally say that israel has nuclear weapons, everyone knows about it, admits it, and iran, as long as i've been alive,
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has been constantly saying that it is about to create some kind of nuclear bomb, that's it. this weekend , some events took place that may, i emphasize, may indicate that the parties here have more or less evened out. last saturday, the european seismological centre's sensors registered an earthquake with a magnitude of 4.6. the seismologists' report noted that the epicenter of the tremors was allegedly located near one of iran's nuclear facilities. the arab press seized on this detail, suggesting that tehran could have tested a bomb. by sunday evening, the news had already been picked up by indian publications, who compared the data on the tremors with nuclear tests and decided that the earthquake was unnatural origin. the earthquake in iran could have been an underground nuclear test, because its center was only 10 km below the ground. the british newspaper the times believes that iran may now have up to ten nuclear
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warheads. the publication's experts, citing calculations by western weapons, say that they will not be ready for launch before april next year. israel may try to attack some iranian facilities, but many of them are located underground, so if they fail to destroy them, iran may feel cornered, then he will have only one way out - to use nuclear weapons. israel, which traditionally neither denies nor confirms the presence of a nuclear bomb, allegedly has 90 warheads, this is according to the iranian press citing the secret services. the new york times, however, notes that tel aviv is not only afraid to admit the presence of such weapons, but will not risk using them. israel, which has nuclear weapons but does not declare it, is not ready to use them, and the nuclear doctrine of mutually assured destruction limits israel even more, than iran. iran has already demonstrated its readiness for such a conflict by attacking
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nuclear israel. alexey mikhailovich, is iran really hinting in every possible way that it has a nuclear bomb, because there is, for example, no increase in background radiation, which usually happens after nuclear tests, somewhere in this area, that is , maybe it was something non-nuclear, there are treaties in the world on the prevention of nuclear weapons testing, russia and the united states have very complex systems that allow them to recognize the use of nuclear weapons, their testing, are determined with very high accuracy, with very high reliability. it is practically impossible to hide, if such reports have not appeared now, then with a high degree of probability we can say that well, this is just some kind of coincidence, some kind of coincidence, yes. i am dmitry konstantinovich and you are trying yes, i don’t think it’s a coincidence, i need to work on these, i don’t know, but because listen, a coincidence,
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when a coincidence occurs in situations when everything is already like this, you begin to think, that somehow it's still strange, you know, well, they started, i don't understand about radiation either, but okay, let there be a throw-in, then explain to us the meaning of this throw-in, i don't... in what's happening now, but it's kind of not necessary, because everything is already clear that it 's twisted to the maximum, that's it, and without nuclear weapons, one of the parties, israel, we all assume that there is,
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iran doesn't have these nuclear weapons, can there be a battle here with conventional weapons, or will israel rather quickly, since the population is smaller, anton valerevich talked about this, but in general the army's potential is such, but look how many were announced 60 nuclear warheads, this is de. yes, well, anyway, in any case, these are tactical nuclear charges of not very high power, we are not talking about strategic megaton charges, yes, we are talking about charges of low power, their limited use will not give israel anything in terms of defeating iranian military facilities, and what are such charges for, these charges are a response, as a doctrine of mutual destruction, that is, either we hit all your cities populated area, social and industrial facilities, and you are lagging behind us, if we talk about a conventional operation that they are planning to strike at iran's military and nuclear industry, then
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only conventional weapons, precision weapons, cruise missiles, aerial bombs should be used here, it will cover forces, i don't know how strong the nuclear component is here or will the parties limit themselves for now, well, on the usual human scale of a conflict, well, you know, if we accept. there are themselves designated, here israel has nuclear superiority, in six months, a year it may not have been nikolaevich, i remind you, vanya
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quite rightly noted that for as long as he has been alive in this world, we hear that iran will create a bomb in 5 minutes, maybe it already has it, they just don’t show it and don’t say it with their history in the east, as always in the east, most likely it doesn’t exist, and they say that it does, they don’t say. this is a more, so to speak, common approach, no, this is their tactic, special, well, in general, we still can’t here decide whether there is or not, at least it is clear that if you set the task, but it is absolutely elementary, if you set the task of eliminating the israeli threat, then it is necessary to do this now, because there is not a single factor that would say that this should be postponed, well, i agree with you that ...
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then israel would not be conducting active military operations now, but it is conducting them, and it is conducting them primarily in order to behead, but since they see it, this is the islamic resistance, led by, let's say, a israel can solve such a problem alone, israel is convinced, they said it right here, israel is convinced that it will not solve it alone, that the americans will not go anywhere, in the end they will support it, here is another remark.
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in the event of a serious blow to iran, well, it is not a fact that the support will be as netanyahu hopes. another thing, here the key word was heard from alexey, escalation, i would not escalate and scare the poor residents of the middle east at all now. firstly, there will be no nuclear war, i do not think there will be a big war. why? because there is a war for the information agenda now. netanyahu has practically won this war, what was the case a year ago with his popularity, and what is the case now.
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everything is fine, in fact, look at the latest polls, and the likut party is confidently leading there, and one more party, i think, six deputies have defected to his coalition, that is, he does not even have to depend on these ultra-religious weirdos now maksim anatovich, and if we accept the logic that alexey sergeyevich is telling us about this, that israel understands that strategically it doesn't have much time left, and it must fulfill all the tasks that are necessary for its survival.
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yes, the religious-administrative center, which no one in iran can ignore, no one, so, remove for a start , no, well then it's 100% war, wait, it's not a fact, how is it absolutely, it's absolutely not a fact, but remove this factor, look what will happen, and i think that nothing will happen, and iran will gradually reform, because it's impossible.
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with which i disagree, one with mr. sytin, two with mr. yusin. firstly, it is absolutely impossible for any person who knows the internal iranian situation to say that the murder of aitav ali khaminai will lead to, will be beneficial for israel. in short, it will lead to the election of a much more radical leader with all the consequences that follow. and now after the death of ali khamin, there may be very serious internal consequences. by killing him, you are consolidating iranian society. this cannot be done.
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to do, israel will not do it. second. point and what maxim said, it is advantageous for israel to hold out until the elections, on the contrary, it is advantageous for israel to do it now before the elections, everything, because as soon as the elections are over, the value of israel, the electoral value.
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a place where everything becomes clear. we continue. and this part, let's start with the news from the russian ministry of defense about an hour ago. the department announced the liberation of another settlement in the pokrovsky direction. we are talking about the village, you see, grodovka. it is located, it is located just 15 km directly from while. at the same time, our soldiers continue to defend the outskirts of the recently liberated coal mine, the ukrainian armed forces unit is still residual, they are running around somewhere, they find them, they find them with the help of reconnaissance drones, well, then our mlrs destroy them, a unit of our vostok group in the northwest of ugledar in the area of ​​the village of vesyoloye is also advancing, the troops are approaching bogoyavlenki, i remind you, this is an important settlement, from there the supplies of the soldiers of the armed forces of ukraine came during the battles for ugledar. in ugledar itself , soldiers are helping the remaining civilians,
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they are provided with food, medicine, basic necessities, they are offered evacuation, according to the ugledar residents, for the first time in a long time they feel safe, well, and they talk about the crimes of the ukrainian soldiers, show, and how they robbed us, and on february 24 , the hospital. west of pokrovsk, they are urgently erected on
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the borders of the dnepropetrovsk region and the donetsk people's republic, that is, the loss of pokrovsk for ukraine already seems inevitable. and now let's look at the footage from volchansk. it is claimed that in this video , fighters of our north group, you see, hang out the russian tricolor flag in the area of ​​the volchansk aggregate plant. this is the largest enterprise in the city, fighting has been going on there for several months, the video is on social networks spread. here i will say that the russian ministry of defense has not yet officially announced that this enterprise has been taken under our control, but the footage you see is very promising. at the same time, the new york times newspaper was concerned about why donald trump so stubbornly does not want to help ukraine. and it turned out that vladimir putin is to blame for everything. and the case, according to the new york times , was back in 2017, when trump met our president in person for the first time, the authors write that trump then asked what putin thought about the united states having...
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so, when trump asked putin about this, and putin told him, among other things: no matter how much you give them, they will demand even more, as they say, in which he is absolutely wrong. let us return, we promised anton valeevich to return his word, so, how are things in the world in general with support for this
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israeli position, everything is complicated, because of the bombing of lebanon, france waged war against israel last weekend. whose residents were forced to leave their homes because of israeli attacks. statements from paris caused a harsh reaction in israel, prime minister netanyahu called the actions of european allies a disgrace, while also going after britain, which a month ago refused to export some types of weapons to israel. all civilized countries must
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stand firmly on israel's side. however, president macron and some other western leaders are now calling for an embargo on arms supplies from... saudi arabia, jordan and egypt. and in this, as the israeli press writes, the americans helped. moderate arab countries surprised the whole world, by entering into an alliance with the us and israel to repel an iranian attack. they are trying not to upset the tigirants once again, but relations with washington are more important to them. against this background, the middle eastern press claims that iran is holding talks with several countries at once to form a coalition against the israeli-american alliance. they even admit that the lebanese, in the war with israel, may be supported by turkey, a nato member. there is no confirmation of these rumors, but they are actively circulated on social networks. in the meantime,
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the varan coalition, nicknamed the axis resistance, includes yemen, iraq, syria and lebanon, as well as paramilitary groups operating in their territories. although iran denies it, it does have a network of allies across the region called the axis of resistance, which opposes israel and the united states. the alliance includes support for large groups such as hezbollah in lebanon and the houthis in yemen, as well as smaller non-state groups, including in iraq. how do you like this whole breakdown, it seems objective. it's cool that you let me speak now after this story, because that's exactly... i wanted to rebuke maxim when he said the phrase that the war is being waged for information agendas, israel is winning in it, from the point of view of internal israeli society, perhaps a temporary victory, because netanyahu's ratings have grown significantly, why is this limited conflict with hamas and lebanon beneficial to them in contrast to a full-scale conflict with iran, because israel , compared to lebanon, is naturally
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a giant from hamas, which simply smashes with a club and georg was right when he cited the figure of 66% in the gas sector in the building either destroyed or damaged according to un satellite images, this is not. once again israel has lost very seriously and as for the perception of the world, then here as even here following the example of macron, who initially supported, now says, let's have an arms embargo, by the way, the only amendment regarding britain, they did not stop arms supplies, they provided de export licenses,
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okay, so that means, here in terms of the number of fronts, here i am you - israeli, israel has long been proceeding from the fact that it will have to fight still on two fronts, that is, one front will be some kind of main one, one will be a little smaller, but still they will have to fight at least a double war, that is why the military-industrial complex is built like that, but i will repeat once again, without the support of the united states, they will not hold out, even now today you talked about the transfer of planes.
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understands that the support of european countries, it does not give him anything, because look at this from the point of view of israel, that israel lived, europe seemed to support him on in words, but with each passing year this ring of islamic resistance and iran was tightening around israel's neck, europe seemed to support it, but it was like, no, don't loosen this ring, don't fight under any circumstances, and israel actually thought, what the hell is this support worth, why did netanyahu speak at the general assembly with this map of countries ? after all, it's not just the conflict between jews and arabs,
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there are jews, sunnis and shiites, actually, what does netanyahu want, he wants to attract arab countries to the anti-iranian platform, because the arab countries will not say, no, no, don't bomb iran, what are you, what are you absolutely impossible, so israel is trying to build a security architecture that will allow it, relying on relations. countries, to continue to confront iran, us support will not go anywhere, to the loss of support from the european union, where these refugees, migrants, muslims, millions of them, it has already, america has been discussed, which means that in europe there is a very serious split on the israeli issue, and this is one of the rare cases when countries the european union is allowed to vote at the un general assembly. whoever wants, for example, in russia, they vote unanimously, they are obliged to do so, here, and look at the voting results, the majority, more than
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half of the eu countries vote with condemnation of israel, but there are several countries, mainly where the right is in power, as well as germany, that do not vote against israel, or the resolution at all, hungary, the czech republic, slovakia, or like germany, austria, abstain, that is, this is how it is'. among the main countries, germany, it will always be in pro-israel camp, because you understand, it's complex, here are france and great britain, although great britain is in the eu, but here it will also be, which means, they are increasingly drifting against israel, france for domestic political reasons, because the israelis are supported by the far right, they support marine le pen, and macron is increasingly forced to reckon, england you.
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sexual rights, something is going wrong, somehow everyone went to the wrong door, well, more about that a little later, we will definitely have a survey, after the story i will voice how all this will look for us. now vanya also has such a serious face, andrei lonevich, when you talk about this, it is somehow sad, yes, yes, somehow you are downright sad, i will tell you honestly, i was just now sitting with together with vanya there, behind the scenes, we are sitting there, we have a big monitor there, we can see the studio, i tell vanya that the guests today are all dressed like they are going to a funeral, everyone is in black, almost everyone came to discuss a serious topic, and they started telling me that there is no sex in russia, well, they are trolling me, an elderly person.
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teachers, and the fines are large, up to 700,000 rubles. the new bill has already been supported by both the ministry of education and the ministry of justice, and it is about to be submitted for consideration to the deputies of the state duma. the text of the document was obtained by izvestia journalists. it follows from this text that for humiliating the honor and dignity of a teacher, ordinary citizens can be fined from 5 to 20 thousand rubles. if the insult appeared on the internet, 30,000 for officials and legal entities. we always have more and more severe liability from 50 to 7,000 rubles. according to the authors of the bill, the need for such measures has arisen due to the large number of complaints and the lack of protection of teachers, because now
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the law is mostly on the side students and their parents. the problem of teachers' vulnerability was vividly demonstrated by a story from lipetsk, where a scandal is flaring up. a young english teacher is threatened with dismissal because of a conflict with the mother of one of the students. how did all this happen? the punishments were given at the blackboard in front of the entire class, the student's mother, having learned about it, ran to complain to the school principal, the teacher was called to the carpet, in the presence of the head teacher, this mother threatened to report to the police and dismiss the teacher, an internal investigation has begun at the school, as reported by the mayor's office, the english teacher herself says that the school administration did not defend her, asked her to write a letter of resignation of her own free will, when the lesson began, a student of the second b class from another group,
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ate cookies, drank juice, and after i made three comments, she did not react in any way, she did not even answer my questions about her name, so i decided, on the advice of senior colleagues, to put her at the electronic board, the student stood calmly, did not cry, i arranged everything, in krasnoyarsk today there will also be a conflict commission to discuss the teacher's behavior.
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you didn't say such things, no, well, we weren't told either, but sometimes there are situations when it can't be done any other way, well, let's do it this way as one of the topics, maybe we, and then we'll discuss it, so now to these, to sexual rights, so, look, this naked party that we had a few months ago just like that, very loudly, ah, probably it happened because there were a lot of different media characters, then...
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public organizations, that all this is necessary this is the trend that is somehow being fueled by prohibition, we have now collected several examples in this story, this is all a very recent event. at the end of september , activists from the russian community movement disrupted a closed private event in one of the hotels in st. petersburg, there was a party for bdsm lovers, the entrance was paid, and the tickets were expensive, the minimum cost was 25,000 rubles. and for 700,000 you could not only dance, but also retire to your room. at the height of the fun, about a dozen people came there masks. hello, good evening. in april, activists concerned about the moral character of russians came to the organizers of a swingers party in another st. petersburg club and demanded that they close down the shameful event. they agreed and secretly rescheduled the meeting for other dates in another building, last
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february in yekaterinburg, a bdsm party was closed under the influence of law enforcement, the russian national guard and even omon fighters descended on it. as a result, acts were drawn up on the organizers for the sale of unmarked alcohol. several liters of alcoholic beverages were found, which is located on the territory of the bar illegally, a protocol for illegal use of tobacco will also be drawn up. in the moscow region of lyubertsy this summer, activists chased nudists off the kotelnichesky beach. according to locals, residents have been sunbathing in these places with galysh since 1960, activists from the 40-4 movement decided to stop this vicious tradition and wrote more than 150 appeals to the investigative bodies.
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some deputies also tried to bring the sexual life of russians in line with their ideas about it. in the vanguard the representatives of the committee for the protection of the family, vitaly milonov and nina ostanina, were in the middle of the fight. but in the end, the parliamentarians admitted that it was impossible to legally ban sex parties. however, activists
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who tried on the role of the morality police managed to achieve the closure of the kinky party project in moscow. it had been organizing parties for those who like to let loose since 2000. sixteenth year, it is not only about sex, and it is not about sex at all first of all, it is about the atmosphere, about the atmosphere of liberation, freedom, and self-expression, that is, some people come to us just to dress up, to walk on a leash, some, i don’t know, like to wear a latex suit, some want to try some kind of practice, so i understand that you’ve already seen our question on the screens while the story was on, but i’ll still remind you of it again.
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when traveling to sochi, we traveled from toapse to sochi, but no, i’ll tell you one thing that should amaze you, so if you’re traveling by train, the train goes there, it’s practically right along the edge of the beach, well, there are a few meters
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left to the water, and there are beaches all around, beaches, beaches, beaches, i won't say, i don't know, what's the interval there, how many kilometers do you travel from one nudist beach to another? but there are a lot of them, so while you're riding on a train, you can see almost all of them in detail, well, at a distance, well, not outstretched arms, but they are very close, and some, especially men, they like to sunbathe, like this standing, and they don't look at the sea, they look like this at the train, well, because they are apparently from another part, listen, no, but what do you mean, the railway there needs to be moved, all these beaches then need to be banned, where is some legislative piece of paper that this is prohibited, it seems to me that there is not even any business as such here, here we are talking not about legislation most of all.
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why don't you think that this is part of society, what did these people specifically do to you, what did they, what kind of morality did they shake, explain to me at this point, you don't like that they live on planet earth, i 'll tell you more, among the deputies of the state duma, your colleagues, there are probably people too, who attend such events, but without evidence vladimir viktorovich or name, and i do not name anyone in particular, then vladimir, by the way, yes , was it not in the duma that they found this, this is the most important question, was it not in the duma,
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it has not been clarified yet, in the duma, i will not assert anything under question, i am simply saying that most likely this is how it is, then there was a deputy from another faction, and it does not matter to me, this is a representative of the people, for whom his voters voted, further, when you say that this is some kind of bad phenomenon, i have my own statistics. i have statistics, just for a second, among those of my acquaintances who attended such events, these are large families, these are doctors, these are teachers, these are engineers, who after they began to suppress from all sides and say that this is impossible, this is foo-foo-foo, to prohibit, not to allow, began to think about leaving the russian federation, a nightmare, engineers, teachers, let them leave. urgently leave allow pedophilia urgently
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leaver at such an event a second where is pedophilia here - i can agree that these things are some kind of morality? right, they won't let you into some more open ones,
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they'll start into more closed ones, the problem is in allowing, well , if you allow reading some books, where's the guarantee that tomorrow you'll start reading books that are banned in russia for all the bans, what books will they allow me to read, what won't, but the problem here is completely different, okay, let's talk about the things that are most understandable to you, well... let's say, no, not a sex party, but let's say, national socialists gather, gather there and also do something like that, well, i don’t know, let’s say, they have their own, their own kind of sexual fun, is it possible or not, if it’s within the framework of a man-woman, by mutual consent, the law does not prohibit, and where will you control it there, will you put a guard there through each person, i’m not suggesting, when it comes to sexual rights, let’s talk.
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well, secondly, i believe that perversion is precisely my responsibility, to prevent it in society, i don’t want it to be in in society, these kinds of people have taken the maximum position, i don't want these kinds of things to tell me that this is normal, that it's normal for families with many children to go to these kinds of events, because there will be more, i understand the logic, but if no one talks about this, doesn't say that this is normal, and people just quietly do what they want.
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the meeting place on ntv, the place where everything becomes clear. we continue. viewers write to us in the comments to our survey that they are confused by our choice of topic. it seems to me that there is nothing to be confused about, firstly, this is another guard of life, and secondly, we are discussing an increase in the birth rate, we want there to be more of us, and we could not turn the topic like this either, in order to increase the birth rate, we need to to go to to increase the birth rate we need to do that very thing, without this lovemopo, let 's ask the viewers, is there a place in modern russia for sexual entertainment? the first option, yes, adults can have fun as they want, the second - yes, but only at home, no, this is a perversion, they need to be stopped, and the fourth, my favorite, now is not the time for such questions, yes,
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vote, please, so , we are you now, listen, we have anonymous voting, yes, that is, we will not know how you are, but we would be very interested, really, wait, maria, let me know what you think, because, well, listen, this is not a problem that we should be embarrassed about, if we start some kind of public, well, conflict about this, it can have far-reaching consequences, so please, calmly sit there in front of the tv, think about it now and vote, it would be desirable of course during the broadcast, so that we could voice these figures, because here is what you really think, no one will know that you are you, let us, so that the viewers can better inspired, we will look at the history of our country over the past 100 years.
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called nudism: naked muscovites sunbathed on the embankment near the kremlin, naked people walked along the streets and went to work on public transport, by the mid-twenties there even appeared a nudist movement, down with shame, in 1924 10 thousand komsomol members walked almost naked across red square under the motto naked body, proof of equality of brotherhood, in the komsomol environment the theory of a glass of water, put forward by the prominent revolutionary kalantay, was heatedly discussed. simple: having sex should be as... as simply as quenching thirst, here we are not talking about the availability of women, not about the fact that every woman will need to be taken, raped, and it will be as easy and unpunished as drinking a glass of water, here we are talking rather about
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the freedom of experimentation, about removing stigmatization, the second wave of sexual liberation came during the thaw immediately after the harsh stalin era, in 1954 in soviet schools, 11 years after classes for girls and boys were separated, they again sat down at desks together, in the ussr saw the advent of the miniskirt, colored tights, and false eyelashes. leningrad radio ran a series of programs under the general title “keep your honor in your youth,” and young listeners wrote letters to the editors with intimate questions. v. even released a film about teenage love, which society then condemned and rejected in every possible way. do you know how the issue of the moral character of young people is being raised today? you know, so how can we be tolerant of such moral phenomena? wait a minute, marya pavlovna, why immediately assume the worst? we we don't know at all how far their relationship went. the taboo on sex was finally lifted during perestroika. the soviet photographer
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evgeny kandakov then created a whole collection of photos called revolution in nature, dedicated to the wild nineties. most of the photos show half-naked girls surrounded by men in nightclubs and bars. at the same time the film intergirl was released, which tells how in the soviet union sex not only exists, but happens for hard currency, foreign directors go to the union to make a film about the new sexual revolution. to dating, boris.
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a person is forbidden something, i don't know, there is some fruit, they tell him, you can't , you can't, you can't, you can't, he doesn't need this fruit or some other food, but he can't, when they tell him you can, he will eat it so much that he will feel bad, when you eat no, well, there are things that really can't be done, some idiots should be forbidden to do this, you can't stick your finger in a socket, you can't, you have to explain why, it's because you will get hit by something, this is how you should start from childhood.
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no, well, wait, well, he somehow has to still remain a human being, because you can drain, you know, first of all in the family, you probably remember a bunch of memes, when the quarantine began, when teachers just grabbed their heads, a child sits in front of the computer, in the background is a dad with a boudoir, in family pants, i will not say that the teacher is scratching, sits, lowering her eyes, blushes, then appears in the chat.
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it happens like this in some waves, well, maybe some kind of excess occurs somewhere, but from the point of view of the mechanism of this excess, there is no one.
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he gives a clear assessment of this phenomenon as immoral, because it is one party after another, and then such a corrosion of society arises in everything, this sexual dominance arises in society, and this society, well, how to say, it turns into a herd, into a herd of animals, because when people are obsessed with this sexual dominance, they think about nothing else except changing their partner.
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we will not take such examples as the extreme, because here, too, in the same week there was a story about how two primates of the anglican i think the church in birmingham, have you read it?
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in the sphere, this is the meeting place on ntv, we continue, the discussion continues, you haven't heard, unfortunately, here we've already reached the kama sutra in the disputes, well, maybe, and a discussion of personal matters, on the air, yes, somehow we 'll get to that too, and we're asking you, is there an answer option now, now is not
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the time for such questions, more than 13 thousand already, more than 12, well great, thirteen, very good, thank you for voting, so, we promised to give the floor to dmitry vladimirovich, but let's show you one more story, because there is again a certain, well, i don't know, stereotype, probably, yes, that all this outrage is exclusively the history of western civilization, because they rot there.
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sex services appeared in china 2,500 years ago, when geishas were held in high esteem. in the last century, when the communists came to power, the classic whores were finished off, but they were replaced by girls engaged in so -called consumption. officially, they attract clients to night clubs, but good tips are ready to continue communication more closely in a private setting. formally, this is not considered prostitution, russian women also go to china to earn money like this. prices. for prostitutes range from 100-200 yuan, which is 1 dash 2.0 rubles in our money. up to 20,000 - these are the girls who provide their services in karaoke clubs. legalized prostitution exists in some muslim countries, in iran,
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bahrain, lebanon, algeria, the so -called service of a wife for an hour is legalized. this is called a temporary marriage, provided that such the relationship is agreed upon. in advance, and the woman will receive money for it, in other countries this is considered acceptable only if the woman is widowed. a temporary marriage, also called muta, was concluded in ancient times by the arabs not to create a long-term strong family relationship, but to get pleasure from a woman. sharia considers such a marriage invalid and forbidden. muslim turkey also surprises with its morals. in this country, prostitution has been legalized since the middle of the 19th century. turkey even has a law according to where women have the right to take money for sex services, they are provided with official employment and a social package. in turkey , there is such a profession as a prostitute, and you can get a prostitute license. i think that everything happens precisely from the spirit of cosmopolitanism of this city. there is all of turkey,
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and there is istanbul separately, there is this ancient city, which has always been a port, which has always been a transit city, which has always been multicultural. russian tourist image of morality, look, here we are somehow arguing because of of how much the violation of some moral ethical standards is unacceptable, while in our cases, which we examined, we are not talking about breaking the law, but it turns out that in a number of countries, where, as we believe, there are some strict laws, even these laws are violated, all the same, all this exists. maybe it is somehow impossible to overcome, in a person, of course, there is both an animal nature and a human one, in general it is good to be a cat, it is good to be a dog, among arangutans, this behavior that we analyzed is completely it is not considered deviant, but a person is distinguished from an animal, a system of prohibitions, legal and moral, here are all these clubs, all
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the clubs, if you do something at home, this is your personal life, and this is just morality and ethics, there if you cheat on someone else something. crime simply flourishes, this is for the mafia of all kinds, this is simply the most wonderful feeding trough, all this prohibition, like for example, the thirties in america, when prohibition was declared, there the mafia also rose sharply on this, but many things need to be prohibit, drugs should be prohibited, it should be prohibited, involving minors, in this poskustviya, excuse me for my grumbling,
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it should be prohibited, it is already prohibited, it is already prohibited involving adults in this demonstration of this very thing. train, but in my opinion, this is typical petty hooliganism, a violation of public order, expressing obvious disrespect for society, but the disk is a beach, you will not really put a policeman, who. such well enough mass events, and you explained everything to me about these if a person does this at home, only for his friends, well, they have that, well, we should also somehow ban it then , he doesn’t have any drugs or other criminal manifestations there, well, formally, he is not in the public space, but for me, for example, striptease and so on, i never
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understood this, but of course this is for amateurs, excuse me, i don’t understand why striptease is needed, why nudist beaches are needed, why do we need to gather to arrange some kind of orgies, well, well, i just don’t understand, and i wouldn’t want to, so that my children understand this, so that my circle of friends understand this, the people don't need this and now we'll give it back to me and vladimirov, because he has exacerbated the whole discussion today, i don't understand.
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