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your son was years old, my son is 32 years old, i still can't believe it, it 's been half a year, he's not here, as if he'd come, he 'd open the door, say, mom, mommy, what should i eat, i come home from work, i see photos, i have tears in my eyes, what happened on that terrible day for you, he had a day off, he gets up and says, mom, i want to meet, well, with his ex... girlfriend with katya, he gets ready, says, i'll be there soon, it's 9:00, i started to get a little nervous, i started calling, he has a subscriber, no subscriber, he's not here in the morning, he's not here in the afternoon no, in the evening it's already somewhere around seven o'clock, my daughter calls, mom, she says, do you know what happened to me and andrey, i say what happened, she says, he was beaten and he's in the hospital, i say how he's in the hospital, so, she says, i found out from...
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friends, i'm so hysterical, i started calling the police, an ambulance, then my son started calling everyone too, already on the second, third time they told us that he was in intensive care, it turns out, they just gave him help, at 3:00 in the morning, they called an ambulance, he was lying there bleeding, and his common-law wife left him to die, it's cold, they went to see some friends there , just to sit there, have a drink , something else, i don't know, they had some kind of a fight, it was because of jealousy or something, in general , the one who did it, he started pestering andreina, this girl katya. they
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had some kind of a scandal, so he stood up for the girl, yes, he stood up for katya, it seems, that's it, they started having some kind of a fight, so he stabbed him with a knife, she got scared of all this , ran away, ran away to his home, to no one, although she knew where i lived, that evening they were the three of them who were there, this is her house, the one who cut, as they say, it was her cohabitant. four in the apartment, there were four of them, the owner of the apartment and her cohabitant, you asked katya herself what exactly happened that evening when we had the second trial, i say, katya, i say, how could you leave him, you came with him together, you saw that he was bleeding, she says, i was scared, confused, that he had already lost consciousness, she says, i also started to slap his hands and poured water on him, and how your son was stabbed, she saw, she did everything...
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femoral artery of the inguinal fold with a fist and bend the thigh at the hip joint as much as possible. this could have saved his life. if we are talking about damage to the femoral artery. vera said that the ambulance arrived and took her son at 3:00 a.m., and if the ambulance had been called earlier, could the man have been saved? i think so, because judging by the commentary of the investigative committee, the injuries were caused at night, so the time he bled out is measured in hours. in this every minute counts. vera, and the accused and his common-law wife, you know well, i don't know the accused. and i know the common-law wife, since we worked together in the food industry, i wouldn't say that she worked badly at work, but everything in her hands, they say, was on fire, and the accused admitted his guilt, well, what did he say, yes, he
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admitted his guilt, it's very hard to believe that he did it, why, because valya, she was constantly in people's conversations... neighbors too, she was constantly grabbing knives, that's it did she also tear out her ex-husband with a knife with a knife of her ex-husband? yes, she threw herself at everyone with knives, well, that is, you believe that she could have done it, well, she assumes, and he took the blame for her, and he took the blame for everything, saves his beloved, saves, probably, yes, most likely, vera, and the family of the accused asked you for forgiveness, nothing, no one asked. in general, neither his mother, nothing, the mother of the accused does not believe that her son could have attacked a person in the studio of rais smerny. hello, rais, hello. raisa, you
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know vera, right? well, i don’t really know her, i just i saw it once, i was present at the trial. your son confessed that he killed her son, yes. but i personally have this version, valentina woke him up, when he woke up, he woke up, she says, i barely woke him up, when he saw this picture, he immediately rushed to call an ambulance, if he had done this, he would not have stayed in this place, he would have stabbed and run away, because i know him very well, he is a coward, and he would not have gone to bed peacefully, he probably thought that she did it...
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for some reason i think that katerina knows all this, maybe someone else was there, why she is silent, she ran away, she even knows the truth, only katerina, raisa, and after the tragedy, you saw your son, i saw him at the trial, i talked to him for 10 minutes before the trial, i managed to tell you about my son and what happened, he didn’t tell me anything, he was more interested in valya, would she wait for him? and does he love her, what do you even know about that roaring day? when i called her son, i couldn’t get through to him, then i thought, let me call her, she said that she was supposedly sleeping in another room, then woke up, went out to drink some water, saw
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a pool of blood, there was a boy sitting there, this one, let's do it, when he woke up, he saw, let's call an ambulance quickly, why did she wake him up, she didn't call an ambulance right away. runs away no and goes to bed next to'. when a person causes bodily harm a second, a second, a second, this is important, goes to bed, and then wakes up and has the complete feeling that nothing happened, he really may not remember, no matter what he was, he goes to bed, he literally remembered everything, i may not remember, from the comments investigative committee we heard that
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the conflict occurred between two men, previously convicted, please be so kind as to tell me, what was your son previously convicted for? he was in jail for breaking into his ex-wife's house, taking a jar of jam that i gave him, and two cucumbers, for theft, yes, vera, the same question for you, what was your son in jail for?
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i know that i was the only one who was scared, i ran away, but what was i scared of? that is, you
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didn't talk to ekaterina? no, i didn't know where to find her. svetlana, based on everything i heard, what is your opinion, what happened on that night, who could have struck with a knife? forgive me, to the point that even this katya could have been to blame for all this mess that happened.
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colleagues, let's take into account that we have three deviant personalities in front of us, two convicted.
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ekaterina is in the same state of affect. and can we assume that katya saw only the beginning of the fight? yes. she did not see what was done to him, what she saw. she saw the struggle of two men, they darted, she ran. radion, then what version do you have? it could have been indeed, either the defendant or his common-law wife, but this question is still open for me. rais, tell us about yours. let's start with education, what kind of education does he have, secondary special education, well, he graduated from school,
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nine grades, he has been disabled since childhood, and what's wrong with him, well, they wrote epilepsy, but it's not epilepsy, my husband was the first to be exposed to radiation, and i was not allowed to give birth, i didn't think and gave birth and now he had these seizures, and often these seizures have long since passed, but the official diagnosis was epilepsy, he was disabled by about this, yes the second one is unemployed, and what did he do? worked, found work, dug a trench there at one, mowed, did you ever notice aggression in your son, no, everyone always offended him, he always comes home. they beat him up in blood, he comes home crying, i say, well, well, don't go anywhere. timur, a very important point, in psychiatry there is a separate direction that considers the development of an epileptoid personality, such people are prone to the accumulation of negative emotions, including anger and aggression, then we think, that is
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hidden accumulation, yes they may not do it until a certain point. this may also be, may not be, right, we are now trying to hang some stamps on, colleagues, let me now discuss with a colleague, yes, who, this is deviant behavior, these are social individuals, because they have a sentence, let's go back to the law, yes, that is, if the conviction is expunged and removed, we do not have the right to use this document as some kind of negative characteristic in relation to a person, this characterizes by virtue of, give us strength.
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would approach me, yulets laughs like this on the shoulder, i say: "andrey, leave me alone, he, come on, you, i still can't believe it, and as a person, what was your brother like, he was responsive, cheerful, and mom helped in the garden and potatoes. the grief-stricken mother still keeps her son's clothes, she can't part with his sweaters and trousers, because they are still soaked with his smell, and his jeans and t-shirts are here, no
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one will need them anymore. in the evenings, vera looks through andrey's photos and remembers the warmest moments. i miss him very much, i miss him, i come home from work, look at his photos and immediately tears come to my eyes. this photo, he was in kindergarten, he is 3 years old here, they dressed him in a special bunny suit, only there is no hat, he lost it somewhere, probably, now talk to son, mother accompanied by daughter comes to his grave in the cemetery, i'm missing, my friend, why did you go there, why, i called you, you didn't answer, you should have called somehow, it's horrible. it's horrible to bury your children, nothing is more terrible in life, condolences, be strong, it's
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a nightmare. it's grief, it's from the photographs, from the photographs we see that he was a fairly physically developed young man, in connection with this questions arise, were there any other injuries on him, indicating possible self-defense were there injuries on the defendant, yes, questions arise, by the way, here about katya, i assume that katya is a girl, well, like any girl is less than a man in any case,
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and the cohabitant, the suspect, also cut him, then why did the accused take someone else's guilt on himself, why, what because of love for her, maybe, well, raisa, the mother of the accused, suggests that it could have been done by your brother's friend, the same katya with whom he came, how do you feel about this version, well, i am confused, because she also gives different testimonies, it is katya who is confused in her testimonies, at first she told the investigation one thing, that... well, what specifically, that he was jealous or something, it was like his defendant - qual or katya, i did not understand, and then she says, at first we were sitting, i did not listen to anything, i was sitting on the phone, so at first they had a fight, then everything seemed to be fine with them, then they calmed down, then again something between them was a word for a word, andreev began to hit him, then they started a fight, he and andrei knocked him down
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the defendant. that katya may be guilty, then the defendant must love katya and shield her, but in order to initiate a criminal case, to investigate a criminal case, there must be strong evidence, in order to shield someone, you need to erase fingerprints, yes, put your own clear fingerprints so that the investigators during the examination can determine exactly who is
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the suspect and the accused. this requires not only time, but also composure and a cold mind and also an understanding, what needs to be done, yes, both of the defendants in our case have previous convictions, but as we understood that these criminal cases did not represent any public danger as such under completely different articles, i am still inclined to this version and thought that it is the defendant who is to blame. i am more than sure that in this situation no one slept so deeply, everyone was, let's say, in this mess, everyone knows everything perfectly well, but due to certain circumstances of fear, most likely, these the testimony and they get mixed up, and ekaterina, i think, is really afraid, and really, when this mess started, when objects were already being used,
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she... that is why you think that valentina might be involved in your brother's murder? the former mother-in-law, the owner of the house where the tragedy occurred, agrees with you, she also thinks that a woman is capable of murder, lyubov karpova is in the studio. hello, lyubov, hello. we lived together for 6-7 years with valentina's blood, tell us what she was like daughter-in-law, after he gave me grandchildren, she started to lead a bad lifestyle, she started
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to go out, abandon her children, there were often scandals in the family, there were often scandals, there were fights, she even picked up a knife, she wounded her son, she wanted, she told me, i... wanted to hit him in the heart, i hit him in the hand. well, did your son then write a statement against his wife? he didn't write any statement, maybe he thought that there was no way to save the family? did your daughter-in-law at least apologize? no, and what were the quarrels about? well, quarrels, that 's what they had in their family: he would come home from work, not cooked, not cleaned up, and the children, that's all. and your son that's why he divorced her. yes, he divorced, he with her, found another family. and he divorced. i kept the children for myself. she wrote a statement. also to the local police officer that i don't need children, a nightmare, and she is a completely useless mother, apparently it turns out that way, in the winter she was taking him to me on a sled, in the winter, he lost his child at our place on the platina, the child arrived on the sleds without
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the child, my daughters ran to look for him on the road, they took him to the platina near the river, that's when... i didn't let them go there, i raised them, she and even the younger daughters of her, well, my the youngest granddaughter - she put out a cigarette on her face, she still has a scar there, it's just a disaster, she was deprived of parental rights, i hope, now at this moment i deprived her in seventeen, in sixteenth year, in this tragedy that happened now, in your opinion, valentina is guilty, she is, she provokes all this. she only provoked the cohabitant, raisa's son, yes, but it seems to me, he was in conflict or could have stabbed, could, could have hit, but he admitted guilt now she could not do it, well, we are so terrible he
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loves your ex-daughter-in-law so much or she she scared him with something, maybe she loves him, maybe she scared him, i can't say that, but what i know is that she can do anything? for failure to pay child support? yes, she's been sitting for 6 months, when was she put in jail for failure to pay child support? after this tragedy happened? it was in april, after what happened in her house? yes, do you maintain some kind of communication with her now, is she interested in the children? no, she wasn't
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interested at all, didn't ask. and you weren't able to talk to her about what happened either? no, she doesn't talk to me. with us, your former daughter-in-law, agreed to talk on the phone. and tell her version of the tragedy, let's call her, hello, hello valentina, my name is timur eremeev, the program beyond the boundary, can you hear me well, well, yes, tell me what happened that evening when andrey was stabbed to death in your house, my husband and i were sitting in the kitchen, and then someone knocked on the window, my husband came up, oh, he went into the room. asked who was there, there was katya with the deceased, so we continued sitting in the kitchen, already the four of us, then in a conversation between me the deceased, word for word, there they remembered the old
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and on this basis a conflict occurred between us with him, as a result of which the deceased began to strangle me, stood up from the table, began to strangle me near the refrigerator. my husband reacted to this, he began to pull him away from me, told him: calm down, enough, stop, let's not do this, "do whatever you want, i don't care, i went to the room to sleep, then i fell asleep, they remained three, but through my sleep, i don't know, i can't say for sure, but i seemed to hear, i heard another male voice, a third man came to the house, what do you think, but it was a voice unfamiliar to you, through the doors, yes, in a few minutes the accused himself will tell show how he attacked andrey with a knife." left him to die, don't miss the avatar show,
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pushed, woke up, he got up, dialed the number went, of course to the kitchen, and through the wall, at that moment all the doors were, katya was already gone, all the doors to the park were open, well , it feels like someone ran away on purpose, tell me, was there no blood on your roommate's hands or clothes when he woke up, there was none, valentina, you definitely didn't see how... they stabbed me, no, at that moment i didn't have one, i was sleeping, yeah, the most direct eyewitness is katerina, you yourself didn't rush at the deceased with a knife, no, why, i don't have such a habit, if i had fought, i would have fought with my hands, but
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your ex-mother-in-law is in the studio now, she claims that you wanted to stab her son, nonsense... her son beat me up all the time, all the time, all sorts of people were always walking around and what kind of murder happened in your house? it was my ex-partner, two people were visiting us, they happened, as a result of which after the inflicted person died, with that conflict it is clear, let's return to the current one, your cohabitant.
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my third person was, she saw it all, well and knows it, or i have a second version, they had a conflict between the deceased and katerina on the grounds, since he, well, tried, roughly speaking, breathed unevenly for her, she always answered him with a refusal, i can't say for sure that it was she, but my opinion is that she could have done it, i want to add why on a knife... a kitchen knife, which we all used, those present, only my husband's fingerprints, my version is that someone else did it, and most likely it was katya, they stuck a knife into my husband when he was sleeping, because i barely shook him awake, and i want
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the truly guilty person to sit, and not just like that, whoever did it, because of him a person is serving a sentence. a very important point, valentina, tell us in more detail , please describe the situation at the scene, were there traces of blood and where the knife was, the knife, as far as i remember, was on the table, the blood was initially only on chair on him, when the ambulance had already carried him to the sink on the floor, naturally there were traces on the refrigerator, where he was lying nearby on the floor. and where was the blood on the body? in the leg. and were the pants soaked in blood? of course. vera, what do you think of valentina's story? you don't believe her? we don't know who to believe, we don't know, the whole way, while i'm sitting listening, i'm thinking about the motive, if it was katya, what motive, if it was
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valentina, what, i can't find a reason for them, well, valentina named such a motive for katya, supposedly the deceased was trying to get her, and she she didn't like it, she said that there was a third one, then it should have happened. not just once, then everyone should have known about it, suddenly arising hostile relations and there may not be a motive as such, the girlfriend of the murdered man assures that she herself saw who attacked him with a knife, in the studio ekaterina chepurina, hello, ekaterina , hello, ekaterina, who attacked your friend, the suspect who is in prison. did you see this moment, did you see how the man struck, yes i saw, he well took kitchen knife, three blows to his leg, well, where is
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the knee? tell me in detail, what happened that evening? andrey karimov invited us there to sit outside, it was cold, we went there, he knocked on the window, this suspect opened it, then valentina started to provoke it, allegedly andrey karimov tried to rape her. and then the suspect put his hand on my knee like this, then a conflict between the men occurred, shut up, it started at first, then valya provoked all this herself , went into the room, and then, well, they started like this already the conflict started, they all - well, they started to fight , then andrei karimov hit him first, then the suspect here - andrei karimov knocked him down, where the table is, he grabbed his legs like that and started to strike three times
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in this area, where the knee is, you tried to stop him, well, i got scared, i was sitting there shaking, he still has me, that is, during the fight you were sitting and did not interfere, when he took the knife, you tried to stop him somehow, no, i was sitting there scared in shock, no, it was he who took the knife, beat him, then went to bed. why did the defendant go to bed? so they woke him up, when all this happened, what happened next, how did they wake him up, why? don't yell, and what are you doing this to me, and why should n't i tell you? was there anyone else? there was no one else, mom was only on the second floor, she went down from there, and vali was on the first, what are you telling me here, let's start from the beginning, after these blows happened, what happened? then he stood up like this with a knife and looked at me, i said, what are you doing to me do you want this now too? he says: no, i'm fine, i'll go now, go up to the second floor, get these, like for the bunks, i got scared, i poured water, poured
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cold water on andrei karimov's face, hit him on the cheeks, then found a rag and where is this leg of his, covered it up, ran faster, because i was scared that it would come down, do something, and why didn't i call the scouts right away, i don't know, i was in a strong shock there. when andrei was stabbed, he fell and didn't get up, no, he got up, then on the bucket, well, he wet himself, then he stood up again and walked to the chair, well, he started to, well, lose consciousness a little, when you were leaving, andrey showed signs of life, yes, where was he, on the chair, when you ran away, you said you were scared, i understand why you didn’t call an ambulance later, why you didn’t tell anyone anything, i don’t know, i was scared, i don’t know.
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why didn’t you call an ambulance already from home in a safe place i had some kind of loss in my head why do you always get confused in court all the time i still said the same thing just a little differently one thing no for some reason the prosecutor asks one thing? the lawyer another, you already have different testimony. ekaterina, there was definitely no one else besides you. no, there was no one else. i don't see anyone. but let's assume that katya just thought that the wounds weren't that fatal, so she didn't call an ambulance, because we understand that the blood started flowing only when they had already taken him or when he did it. but she bandaged her leg, thought that was enough, turned around and left, that's it, even if the wounds weren't severe, imagine the situation, you and your friend come, he is stabbed with a knife.
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to experience such a strong fear, that's what ekaterina is talking about, which simply paralyzes, blocks all rational decisions, i think, not in this case, in that case she would have left the scene of the incident instantly, and where the knife was, it remained in the hand, who, when he did it, well, he cut it, he held it in his hand, ekaterina, what kind of relationship did you have with andrey, and are there any close ones there, i he was walking with my brother, well tell me, do you have any kind of relationship now at the moment, yes, but not he whether he came, we can assume that andrey was pestering you and your boyfriend came, saw some picture, this boyfriend appeared with me recently, ekaterina, and you know that valentina admits that you could have killed andrey, so she
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could say this on purpose because of jealousy, she was jealous of me for her. well, the suspect, that he allegedly looks at me there, and i think that you too, ekaterina, you didn’t pick up a knife, no, i didn’t pick it up at all, why would i need it, we have footage from the verification of the testimony on the spot, in this footage the accused shows law enforcement officers how on the night of march 15-16, 2024, he stabbed his friend three times, we were having fun, he was sitting here...
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nina, did something seem strange to you in the behavior of the accused or ekaterina? in general , this whole story seems strange to me, but nevertheless, i am inclined to believe that there really was a conflict between the men, as a result of which the accused struck us with these blows. ekaterina, but in order to prove that you were not involved in the crime, you did go through lie detector test. let's see how you passed the test to find out what really happened that evening, polygraph examiner anna sakhauddinova asks ekaterina cheppurina questions, carefully watches her facial expressions and gestures. did you see the accused stab your friend in the leg? yes. are you sure that at the time of the attack on your friend, there was someone
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else in the house besides you valentina and your friend? no, that is, you don't know for sure. well, there was a mother, whose mother, the hostess, but otherwise, i didn't see anyone. the next block of questions is aimed at finding out whether ekaterina herself was involved in the murder of her friend? did you wound your friend? no, were you holding a knife when your friend was killed? no. did you not call the police because you were involved in the murder? no. did you really run away from the scene of the crime because you feared for your life? yes. are you faking the investigation to avoid punishment under the law? no, do you regret that the deceased died? yes, sergey, do you think ekaterina could be involved in the tragedy? yes, of course, i think she was to some extent, she is involved in this in any case. raisa, did you see ekaterina's behavior during the check, what do you think, was she honest or was she trying to deceive, say like a robot,
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yes, no, yes, no, she didn't take it. do you still suspect? yes, i have a feeling that indirectly katya considers herself guilty, because she left a person, that's why on the polygraph she felt so inadequate and behaved, what will the lie detector show and how many more charges can be brought, and also a dna test for the twice abandoned neighbor girl, we will find out in a couple of minutes. the biological mother left her in the maternity hospital, a girl came with her.
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ekaterina? no, it was not easy to work with ekaterina, she was under a lot of stress, she there was a defensive reaction, it was very difficult for her to speak. were there any specific questions that caused particular difficulties for ekaterina when answering? yes, questions about the sequence of events, she was confused about when, what happened, this sequence of actions. anna, your verdict, she did not do it. she is not involved, she did not kill the person, but there was a strange, interesting question, she held a knife in her hand on the day of the murder, can you explain, ekaterina, well, maybe before this event you were cutting something, cooking, cucumbers, yes, and a lemon, i think we were there, or something, anna, and how the accused stab, ekaterina, she saw it, she saw it, and the fact that there was no one in the house except those named, yes, also...
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it assumes a punishment of up to 15 years of imprisonment, well, i think that the sentence will be 8 years. nina, can you provide your support to the family of the deceased? yes, of course, if they need my help, contact me, because you, as victims, have every right to file a civil lawsuit for material and moral compensation. maria,
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and ekaterina can be charged for abandonment in danger in this situation, as i understand it, the investigation has chosen the direction that ekaterina is a witness, since we have no others, accordingly, if we bring charges against her, then well , somehow she disappears from the category of witnesses, the fact that this charge has not been brought yet most likely indicates that the charge has been brought after all. there will be no, but indirect guilt, but still it takes place, at least from a moral and ethical point of view. radion, we all understand how difficult it is now sister, mother, deceased, can you provide them with support on your part? yes, i can provide any support, yes, upon request, which will be required, by the way, not only by the party, but by the deceased, because the mother of the accused is also experiencing severe stress.

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