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tv   SPOTLIGHT  PRESSTV  September 26, 2023 2:02am-2:30am IRST

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welcome everyone, france has been plagued by nationwide protest against systemic racism and police violence. this comes after another unarmed young man of color was killed by police during routine traffic stop. now paris alone saw over a week of riots against the police killing and controversial law which police have seized upon to specify what protesters are called state violence and summary executions. the controversial law and its consequences for minorities in france is the topic of this episode of your. spotlight
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join us out for our program is mahmoud international relations expert joining us from pariss and mr. ab researcher and political analyst joining us from detroit michigan gentlemen welcome to the program to a our spotlight here to the both of you, i'll start with you mr. ab. uh, we've seen minorities in france sur racism and systemic uh violence by police uh for for years, see muslim citizens, those of african descent, your initial thoughts on how pervasive you think the problem is, and what authorities you feel in france have done to address it? it is pervasive, and according to statistics that have been released over the last several months, dozens of people have been killed by the french police over the last several years, last last year there were over 20
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people who were killed, there were others were wounded as well, and i don't think uh the residents of france would be up in arms about this if it was not a serious problem. we saw just two months ago uh mass rebellion demonstrations uh in several cities, not just paris, but all across uh france, in response to the brutal police killing of nahil, who was of north african descent, so i think this is a... serious problem in france, and if the government does not address, it's going to deteriorate even further. thank you sir, mr. rafat, welcome to the program sir, your initial thoughts on how demonstrators we know they're taking particular aim at this particular law that to effect in 2017 the 4:351 of the internal security code, which of extends the possibility for forces, law and order to shoot in the end of a simple suspect's refusal to comply. your initial thoughts on this law, the protesters are going. after and the fact that it's it's a
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targeting mostly black french citizens and those of arab descent. yeah, well in order to understand the french police functioning, we need to go back to the the history to the french revolution. the french revolution, of which is shaping the face of actual france, was launched severally and with police and security mentality, and from her and according to that, even setes of france were constructed in order to liquidy or to make easier for police to be liquid in the cities and to surround manifestations when you see majority of cities and let's take example paris is main round about which is the center plus the chatle and from her the avenues to go through and each avenue is to end by
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another roundabout and each round about other aviness to go through and so on, this construction of the cities reflect lots of or the biggest part of the french mentality, i mean the governance of france since more than 200 years since the french revolution, it's to to to make the police dominant any time, that means using the force depending on this force. in order to oppress manifestations and that made big accumulation and big heritage until we reach it today. well, in 16, 50s, french police had also big waves of movements and actions that were subject of of media, and until today we are talking about throwing algerians in the se in the sun river until...
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today, something happened more than 60 years ago, almost, and but today it has been legalized, these actions had been legalized by the code itself, the... law and with years laws, especially undertion of president macron, the police was given lots of laws to protect its violence and brutality and prs of rules and pr of the european rules in general, by the way, the european union has code of ethics for the practice of the police and have rules to be applied in all european countries, mostly the only france who is somehow outside of this of these rules because of guarantees and protections were given by laws to the french police again the french police to understand that we need to understand the whole construction of france
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and the french revolution which shaped the actual face of france we have physically on hand thank you rafat that's a very interesting perspective and that takes us way back to franciscolon will pass mr. ezekue, this igpn, the inspector responsible for investigating police misconduct, released its annual report on use of force by officers that found last year 38 people died as a result of police action. 22 were shot dead, those 22:13 involved cases of someone refusing to comply with a simple police order, most of them black and arab descent. now there are three such killings, the previous year in 2021 and two in 2020. "your thoughts where this trajectory is head? illustrates clearly that the situation is getting worse uh for people of color, poor and working class people uh in france, and regard to the french revolution, lot of the reforms that came revolution were actually
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overturned, for example, the abolition of slavery uh was revoked uh in regard to uh the occupation of haiti and france fought a long war to maintain haiti." as a colony, they were defeated in 1804, same situation uh with their colonies in africa, algeria, they occupied for over 103 years, may of 1945, they slaughtered thousands of algerians for protesting, in celebration of the french victory in war2, but also calling for algeria independence, during the revolution between 1954 and 1962, over million people were killed uh by the french colonial forces, so they have a history of brutal repression. and now with the economic crisis that exist uh in france uh the police are being utilized as the front line of defense against a crummling uh state uh in france haaded by emmanuel macron and uh the prime minister there as well. thank you and mr. rafath we know that
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france has a whole lot to say about other countries when they have volatile uh protest when they're simply rights there are riots in iran the french president called them protests. and now they're having riots in france because of this law, but you see very the french uh they're not so vigilant when it's taking place on their own so how they label it and how they address it systemically? well this is the the the norm the international relation for example when united states oppressed severally um the movement of street we remember that decade ago, it was real violence of international law and guarantees of freedom of speech, and and and despite that the american media at that time, i'm just getting the example, not only with the french to show, it's worldwide exchange when it comes to this point, at time
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american media did not criticize the american police so much, and the politicians did not criticize the police, the american police so much despite this the severe behaviors of the american police, the same in france, while when there is crush in with with a country with nation like iran, no, anything will happen in iran will be putting edge of the end of the world, while let me give you dire example, american politicians, french politicians, i mean occidental politicians, have been talking lot about... chinese behaviors against muslims and chinese persecution of muslims etc. despite just beside china in india there is more horrible and more terrific behaviors and adopted officially by the government of prime
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minister modi, but india is a good friend and good ally of the west, that's why india almost never mentioned in any critic size of that, so this is... the norm in the international relations when something, if you are my friend, i will close my eyes and i will not say anything about what happening on your land, if you are not my friend i will try. and i will do my best to use the smallest and most minor things can happen in your on your land to gettion that you are a monaster, you are giving up the human values, you are breaking the international law, you are outside of united nations regulations and rules etc. so this is the game which all experts or all specialists of international relations are familiar with today, we no longer focus. that lot, it's just political announcement, which at the end of the day, do
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not help lot, neither build a real situation or get real benefit more than to be media propaganda, thank you, mr. point, if you put a law on the books that is getting this kind of result is blasted by right group and is targeting a specific sector of your society justly and disproportionally, why do you allow to persist, because obviously they have agenda to suppress uh the african and muslim and working class communities in france, that is their agenda, and it's the same thing in the united states in britain, all these three leading western industrialized countries have similar problem with police misconduct and police brutality. it was quite interesting when the rebellions were taking place. france uh just several months ago, in response to the police killing of nahil, macron framed uh
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the demonstrations as being a result of juvenile delinquency. he accused the parents of those uh involved in those rebellions as being irresponsible, rather than address the underlying social problems that prompt uh these type of uh unrest to break out in france. i think it's an avoidance part of the uh government, they do not want to accept that their society is institutionally racist and that the police are brutal and they need to be disarmed and they need to be dismantaled and reorganized, and the same situation is true in the uk as well as the united states. thank you sir, and i want to put that uh mr. azikiway's words to you, mr. rufot, if paris, washington and london, they proclaimed to be the champions of human rights throughout the world, to try to preach to the rest of us what it means to be equal. uh just um democratic, they teach us all about human rights, but when the epitus has
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to fall upon their own people upon themselves upon their own backyard, why do they have such a hard time keeping it clean? well, let me just um highlight very important point, yeah there is um lots of remarks concerning the french police functioning, that's true, but what has is making these remarks to appear so much is is the nature of the french society, the history also which is building the nature of the french personality, the french personality is naturally rebel personality, is not opident at all personality in front of the governance, in front of the governor, it's not opidant society, i do not want to specify another or compare to another societies. but let's say to generally to the north of europe, more north of europe and scandinavian countries,
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these countries for example when you go there, once the governor, the prime minister or the cabinet of prime minister or the parliament or whatever took decision and there is new rule, new law to increase the age of retirement, for example, society will be obident, there is kind of trust between the society and their governor, while the french specificity in europe. which is very close to italian, but more in france we can notice that french society, not abidan, not that submissive in front of its governor, and that highlights a lot and put lots of light on the reactions of the police, how the police behave in france, so that's why the french police is always mentioned in the news because also of reactions coming from the... french society itself, me myself from arabic origin, i can confirm yeah there is somehow
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some remarks also concerning the and misconduct concerning the discrimination, yeah, but not as much as it's described, the french police is severe and brutal against all the society, all competents in the society, maybe a little bit more against arabs or black, that's true, maybe especially some areas in some cities like in paris when we got to paris some areas were highly populated by arabs and africans marsella some but this is really... minor comparing to the french brutality with with against the french um manifestations of legal, the yellow vests for example, they are not arabs, they are not black, they are real french people, coming from french descendancy since hundreds of centuries, and despite that we saw them being
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massacred by the police and we did not have exact numbers of victims by the way about the... of yellow vests for example, we do not have real exact numbers, all numbers are showing are highly doubted by manifestants themselves or witnessed that some of their colleagues even were killed, so the french brutality is against all ingredients of the society unfortunately, that's a really interesting point, i want to put you because it's like what came first, the chicken or the egg, the for the french personality. uh mr. riford said uh it is rebellious against authority in general and their protest are friendly as a result, but that did that come as a result of state violence inflicted upon them by authority to them to make them rebellious, or did the state become authoritative due to their rebellion nature, because in the u.s. you have something completely different, you have protesters out
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that are victims, literally victims of police violence, and you cannot really say that they cause the police to... create that violence against them? normally uh people will not go out and demonstrate and rebel if there's no just cause uh for their actions, and the point is well taken, the yellow vest movement was met with severe repression, at the beginning of this year unions in the student unions who had rolling strikes that raised the... of to receive uh for retirement, that those demonstrations as well were met by vicious police brutality, and they went ahead anyway, the french government and rammed through the law, even without a vote of the national assembly, so this does not look good uh for the french ruling class and i think
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that they're becoming more and more exposed, what is going on now in west. africa, um, they were just ordered to leave niger, they claim now they're going to pull out, so i think all across the world, people are beginning to see france, in a different light, not as the origins or the originators the french revolution of liberty and fraternity and so forth, but as a ruling class that is seeking to maintain his hegem money, whether it's in france, in africa or wherever else they feel. they have national interests. thank you, and a final thoughts i'm going to put to you, mr. ref, you close the program with um, if you want to basically treck down mr. eziy's narrative there and yours, doesn't seem like french authorities have too much care to address this problem? well, there have been lots of attempts uh, in
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order to modify the functioning of the plus to. decades, but these attempts are um were not successful, simply as simple as because the government, the state did not support them, france is very, very, very concentrated regime, and doesn't support a project, this project will never see the light one day seriously, it will exist on the media, but it will never be applied on the ground. um, at the end of the day, every single thing in france is in hands of the governor, of the authorities, the civil, the civil society, the ngos etc. they exist lot, but they are exist to express their wishes, but to be applied, it must be adopted somehow
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officially on official level, that's why it never been adopted, meanwhile the cont has been adopted is to give more protection to the police, for this for this reason the the attempts of making series reform and the functioning of the french police have been not successful and i do not expect that be successful um for more two three decades minimum from now gentlemen, thank you both for joining us in the program, pleasure checking with both of you, mr. mahmoud out there joining us from paris and mr. ab joining us from. detroit, michigan and viewers that brings us to the end of the segment of your tv spotlight program. thank you for tuning in and goodbye for now.
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the saudi crown prince personally stressed that the negotiations between the kingdom of saudi arabia and the zionist israeli entity are both continuous and good. muhammad bin salman claimed that with every passing day his country is getting closer to normalizing its relations with the israeli entity, but this time he never mentioned the arab peace initiative. nor the two-state solution, and he did not repeat the traditional saudi position concerning an independent state with its capital being the holy city of ots. there's something concerning in these statements as the optimistic language used by the saudi prince is not consistent with the current nature of the design government and comes outside the context of the accelerating collapse of what remains of the political peace process. muhammad bin salman treads to normalization this week on the mid east stream.
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