tv SPOTLIGHT FRENCH POLICE BRUTALITY PRESSTV September 26, 2023 6:02am-6:30am IRST
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the two sides. welcome everyone, france has been plagued by nationwide protest against systemic racism and police violence. this comes after another unarmed young man of color was killed by police during routine traffic stop. now paris alone saw over a week of riots against the police killing and controversial law which police have seized upon to justify what protesters are calling state violence and summary executions, the controversial law and its consequences for minorities in france, is
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the topic of this episode of your spotlight. joing us now for our program, is mahmoud rafat, international relations expert joining us from paris. and mr. abimi is ekua, researcher and political analyst joining us from detroit, michigan. gentlemen, welcome to of the program to our. spotlight here to the both of you, i'm going to start with you, mr. abikue, um, we've seen minorities in france here screaming racism and systemic uh violence by police uh for you for years, mostly muslim citizens or those of african descent, your initial thoughts on how pervasive you think the problem is, and what authorities you feel in france have done to address it? it is pervasive, and uh, according to statistics that have been released over the... last several months,
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dozens of people have been killed uh by the french police over the last several years, last year there were over 20 people who were killed, there were others who were wounded as well, and i don't think uh the residents of france uh would be up in arms about this if it was not a serious problem, we saw uh just two months ago uh mass rebellion demonstrations uh in several cities, not just paris, but all across uh france. uh in response to the brutal police killing of nahil uh who was of north african descent. so i think this is serious problem in france, and if the government does not address it, it's going to deteriorate even further. thank you sir, mr. mahmoud rafat, welcome to the program, sir, your initial thoughts on how demonstrators, we know, they're taking particular aim at this particular law that came into effect in 2017, the 4351 of the internal security code, um, which extends the possib for forces of law and order to shoot
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in the event of a simple suspect's refusal to comply. your initial thoughts on this law the protesters are going after and the fact that it's it's targeting mostly black french citizens and those of arab descent. yeah, well in order to understand the french police functioning, we need to go back to the the history to the french revolution, the french revolution which is is shaping the face of actual france um was launched severally and with police and security mentality and from her and according to that, even sets of france were constructed in order to liquidify or to make easier for police to be liquid in the cities and to surround manifestations when you see majority of cities and let's take example paris, you will find paris is
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main circle, main round about, which is the center plus the chatly and from her the avenues to go through, and each avenue is to end by another roundabout, and each roundabout, other avees to go through and so on, this construction of the cities reflect lots of or the biggest part of the french mentality, i mean the governance of france, since more. than 200 years since the french revolution, it's to to to make the police dominant any time, that means using the force depending on this force in order to oppress manifestations, and that made big accumulation and big heritage until we reach it today, well in 16s, 15s, french police had also big waves, of movements and actions that
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were subject of media and until today we are talking about throwing algerians in the in the... and rever until today, something happened more than 60 years ago, almost, and but today it has been legalized, these actions have been legalized by the code itself, the law and with years laws, especially under president macron, the police was given lots of laws to protect its violence and brutality and prays of rules and pr of the... union rules in general, by the way, the european union has code of ethics for the practice of the police and has rules to be applied on all european countries, mostly on france who is somehow outside of
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this of these rules because of guarantees and protections were given by laws to the french police, again the french police to understand that we need to understand the... whole construction of france and the french revolution which shaped the actual face of france we have physically unhed. thank you, mr. rafat, that's a very interesting perspective and that takes us way back to france's colonial past. mr. iz, this igpn, the inspectorate responsible for investigating police misconduct, released its annual report on use of force by officers at found, last year, 38 people died as a result of police action, 22 were shot. hot dead from those 22, 13 involved cases of someone refusing to comply with a simple police order, most of them black and arab descent. now there were three such killings the previous year in 2021 and two in 2020. your thoughts on where this truectory is headed?
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illustrates clearly that situation is getting worse for people of color, poor and working class people uh in france and regard to the french revolution, lot of the uh reforms that came out of the revolution were eventually overturned, for example, the abolition of slavery uh revoked in regard to the occupation haiti and france fought a long war to maintain haiti as a colony, they were defeated in 1804, same situation with their colonies in africa, algeria, they occupied for over 130 years, may of 1945, they slaughtered thousands of algerians for protesting in celebration of the french victory in world war ii, but also calling for algerian independence. during the revolution between 1954 and 1962, over million people were killed uh by the french colonial forces, so they have a history of brutal repression,
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and now with the economic crisis that exist uh in france, the police are being utilized as the front line of defense against a crummling uh state uh... in france haaded by emmanuel macron and uh the prime minister there as well. thank you, and mr. rafat, we know that france has a whole lot to say about other countries when they have volatile uh protests, when they're simply rights, there are riots in iran, the french president called them protests and now they're having riots in france because of this law, but you see very the french uh they're not so vigilant when it's taking place on their own soil how they label. and how they address it systematically? well, this is the the norm of the international relations, you know, for example, when united states oppressedly, the movement of let's occupy wall street, if you
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remember that like one decade ago, it was real violence of international law and guarantees of freedom of speech and and and and despite that the american media at that time, i'm just giving the example of american here, not only with the french to show, it's worldwide exchange when it comes to this point, at that time american media did not criticize the american police so much, and the politicians did not criticize the police, the american police so much, despite this the severe behaviors of the american police, the same in france, while when there is crime. with with a country with another nation like iran, no, anything will happen in iran will be put an image of the end of the world, while let me give you direct example, american politicians, french politicians, i
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mean occidental politicians, have been talking lot about chinese behaviors against muslims and chinese persecution of muslims etc. despite just beside china in india there is more horrible and more terrific behaviors and adopted officially by the government of... minister modi, but india is a good friend and good ally of the west, that's why india almost never mentioned in any critic size of that, so this is the norm in the international relations, when something, if you are my friend, i will close my eyes and i will not say anything about what happening on your land, if you are not my friend, i will try and i will do my best to use the smallest and most minor things can happen in your on your life to. give impression that you are a monaster, you are giving up human values, you
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are breaking the international law, you are outside of united nations regulations and rules, etc. so this is the international relation game which all experts or or all specialists of international relations are familiar with today, we no longer focus in that lot, it's just political announcement which at the end of the day uh do not help lot neither build a real situation or get real benefit more than to be media propaganda and mr thank you mr riford mr ezi and to mr rifort's point if you put a law on the book that is getting this kind of result is blasted by rights group and is targeting a specific sector of your society unjustly and disproportionally why do you allow it to precise? because obviously they have an to suppress uh the african and muslim and working class communities in france, that is
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their agenda, and it's the same thing in the united states in britain, all these three leading, western industrialized countries have a similar problem with police misconduct and police brutality. it was quite interesting uh when the rebellions were taking place in france, just several months ago, in response to the police. killing of nachill, macron framed uh the demonstrations as being a result of juvenile delinquency. he accused the parents of those uh involved in those rebellions as being irresponsible, rather than address the underlying social problems that prompt uh these type of uh unrest to break out in france. i think uh it's an avoidance on the part of the french government, they do not want to accept the... their society is institutionally racist and that the police are brutal and they need to
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be disarmed and they need to be dismantaled and reorganize and the same situation is true in the uk as well as the united states. thank you sir, and i want to put that uh mr. ozikhi's um words to you, mr. rufat, if paris, washington and london, they proclaim to be the champions of human rights throughout the world to try to preach to the rest of us what it means to be equal, uh, just.... democratic, they try to teach us all about human rights, but when the epitus has to fall upon their own people, upon themselves, upon their own backyard, why do they have such a hard time keeping it clean? well, let me just um highlight very important point, yeah, there was um lots of remarks concerning the french police functioning, that's true, but what? is making these remarks to appear so much is is the nature of
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the french society, the history also which is building the nature of the french personality, the french personality is naturally rebel personality, is not opident at all personality in front of the governments in front of the governor is not opident society, i do not want to specify another or compare to another society. but let's say to generally to the north of europe, more north of europe and scandinavian countries, these countries for example when you got there once the governor, the prime minister or the cabinet of prime minister or the parliament or whatever took decision and there is new rule, new law to increase the age of retirement, for example, society will be evident, there is kind of trust between the society and their governor, while the french specificity in europe, which is very close to italian, but more in france we can
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notice that french society not opident, not that submissive in front of its governor, and that highlights a lot and put lots of light on the reactions of the police, how the police behave in france, so that's why the french police is always mentioned in the news because also of reactions coming from the french society itself, me myself from arabic origin, um, i can confirm, yeah, there is somehow some remarks also concern and misconduct concerning the discrimination, yeah, but not as much as it's described, the french police is severe and brutal against all the society, all competents in the society, maybe a little bit more against arabs or black, that's true, maybe especially in some areas, in some series like in paris
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when we got to paris, some areas were highly populated by arabs and africans, marselia, some, but this is really minor, comparing to the french brotality with against the french, manifestations of legislation, the yellow vests, for example, they are not arabs, they are not black, they are real french people, coming from french descendency, since hundreds of centuries, and despite that we saw them being massacred by the police. and we did not have exact numbers of victims by about victims of for example, we did not have real exact numbers, all numbers are showing are highly doted by manifestants themselves who witnessed that some of their colleagues even were killed, so the french brutality is against all ingredients of the society
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unfortunately, and that's a really interesting point i want to put you m because it's like... what came first, the chicken or the egg, the for the french personality uh, mr. rifot said uh, it is rebellious against authority in general, and their protests are friendly as a result, but that did that come as a result of state violence inflicted upon them by authority to them to make them rebellious, or did the state become authoritative due to their rebellion nature, because in the us, you have something completely different, you have protesters out that are victims, literally victims of police. violence and you cannot really say that they cause the police to create that violence against them. normally uh people will not go out and demonstrate and rebel if there's no just cause uh for their actions, and the point is well taken, the yellow vest movement was met with severe repression, at
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the beginning of this year, unions and the student unions who had rolling strikes, that raised the age of to receive uh four retirement that those demonstrations as well were met uh by vicious police brutality and uh they went ahead anyway uh the french government and w through the law even while the vote of the national assembly, so this does not look good uh for the french ruling class and i think that uh the... becoming more and more exposed, what is going on now in west africa? um, they were just ordered to leave niger, they claim now they're going to pull out, so i think all across the world people are beginning to see france uh in a different light, not as the origins or the originators of the french revolution of liberty and fraternity and so forth, but as a
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ruling class that is seeking to maintain his head of money uh whether it's in france. in africa or wherever else they feel they have national interests. thank you, and our final thoughts i'm going to put to you, mr. reffat, you close the program with, if you want to basically track down mr. ezekaway's narrative there, and yours, doesn't seem like french authorities have too much care to address this problem. well, there have been lots of attempts, in order to modify. functioning of the last two decades, but these attempts are um were not successful, simply as simple as because the government, the state did not support them, france is very, very, very concentrated regime, and doesn't support a
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project, this project will never see the light one day seriously, it will exist. on the media, but it will never be applied on the ground. um, at the end of the day, every single thing in france is in hands of the governor, of the authorities, the civil, the civil society, the ngos, etc., they exist lot, but they are just to express their wishes, but to be applied, it must be adopted somehow officially on official level, that's why it's been adopted, meanwhile, the contrary has been adopted is to give more protection to the police, for this for this reason the the attempts of... making serious reform and the functioning of the french police have been not successful and i do not expect that to be successful um for more two
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three decades minimum from now gentlemen thank you both for joining us in the program pleasured checking with both of you mr. mahmoud rafat there joining us from paris and mr. abyomikua joining us from detroit michigan and viewers that brings us to the end of the segment of your press tv spotlight program. thank you for tuning in. and goodbye for now, vamos hacer. se pueden retirar, ya no tienen
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