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tv   SPOTLIGHT  PRESSTV  October 12, 2023 10:02pm-10:31pm IRST

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the stay six of operation alloss the flood and what is evidence are the war crimes? that are being committed by the israeli regime, perhaps like no other time in israel's history, has it come out and said that it would commit war crimes by sealing off the strep. as the death doll mounts, many are coming out joining protest rallies and solidarity with the palestinians. this is while there's a media war depicting israel as the victim, or the palestinians have been victimized throughout the decades. here are our guests for this edition of the program. back. express tv's palestine declassified
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joins us from derby uk. also joining us ali mamala is the founder of alphatsday in toronto. who joins us from toronto. welcome to you both. chris derby. i'll first start with you. this is kind of hot off the press, you may have heard about it, but it happened in the past uh, i think about 30 minutes or so, where britain has announced that it will send two royal navy ships to the eastern mediterranean and will begin surveillance flights over israel. it says that's that's in a sign of military support uh what do you think think of that and many are reading between the lines saying that the uk along with the us has uh decided to show its support, which they say is deterrence factor, and a projection of power, but in essence, it may show how weak israel is seen or felt by israel itself, that the uk and britain and the us have have the need. and they have felt
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that they should send their military arsenal there? well, i mean, i think we israel of course is served as a strategic, benefit for the interests of the united states and and great britain over many years and what i think has been absolutely deplorable is the response of the political class to the crisis that we are seeing unfold before our very eyes now, and the way in which the corporate media britain i think as you were alluding to in your opening remarks and indeed the political class in this country who are giving very one-sided um view as to what is actually unfolding in gaza right now and i've been and indeed many people i think in this country have been utterly outraged by the way in which uh the political class and the corporate media rallied behind israel. we've seen for example the... houses of parliament
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in britain illuminated with the israeli flag 10 downing street, the the base of the british prime minister similarly illuminated in in that way and many... buildings flying the israeli flag above town halls, but this isn't going down well with the british public, it's got to be said, and we've seen demonstrations outside public buildings, indeed on one occasion the young man climbed top of the roof at shefield town hall and tore down the israeli flag and and flew the palestinian flag in its place, to great cheers from the crowd below, so britain i think uh is certainly playing i think very um unhelful. role in this situation that has developed, and i think it does indeed, as you suggest play to the notion that, israel isn't the sort of undefeitable entity that perhaps it's been thought of as in the past, the
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resistance now in in palestine in gaza is considerably better equipped and better organized and uh you know to mark the operation that they did, and it wasn't simply hamas, it was, it was all the resistance factions coming together, this daring raid that they mounted would have been unthinkable, i think you few years ago, and if if if israel you know does press ahead with a ground invasion, then i think they will get a very bloody nose, it won't be a simple walk in the park for them because they will meet in my opinion make very very stiff resistance on the ground there, and this indeed could indeed invoke. spalar's involvement and indeed other players in the region becoming involved, so you know, for britain, i think is reckless in in actually you know sending warships and what what british, politicians should be doing is actually uh is playing an appropriate
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diplomatic role in in in you know putting pressure on israel to comply with international law, because at the end of the day is israel that are responsible uh for the tragedy that has befallen the uh palestinian people for well 75 years we've seen israel inflicting um appression terrorism upon the people of of palestine and you know we have to call an end to that it seems to me and that's what you know sensible um politicians ought to be doing but instead they they seem to be banging the the drums of war it totally unacceptable and and while they might be getting support in the british media they're not getting support from the british public well when you talk about international law, i'd like to bring your attention, ali mala, if i may to two statements that are made here, first of all, um, you have the israeli energy minister, by the name of cutz, where he said that literally making the announcement that we are blocking water, electricity and fuel from entering gaza, that
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in itself is a war crime, you have the presence of the us secretary of state um and uh the us defense secretary uh where they have made uh statements, but the one that the us defense secretary has made is quite an eye opener where he says, this is a professional military in reference to israel, led by professional leadership, and we would hope and expect that they would do the right things in the prosecution of their campaign, and we'll make sure that we'll leave it to them to define what their operations are going to look like, that's just given a green light for israel to massacker palestinians, doesn't it? is not the first time, it's not the first time, and the illegal state of israel, as we all know, it's the legitimate child of uk, grand britain and youstern colonial imperialism, and later on it be adopted by by the us, so in terms of cutting
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resources, water and electricity and you know other necessities of life on the people of gaza, is not the first time they are. doing it, and what's going on right now in in gaza, it's it's periphery, from massackers is not and are not the first massacres being committed against the palestinians in gaza and in all occupied palestine, so we have to realize that you know israel is not alone and it represent uh the spear of... colonial imperialist project in the region, which is for more than 100 years so far, is inflicting pain, suffering, death and destruction on palestinians and i'm sorry when i hear the word politician, what kind of politician they are, and where are the masses of the
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population in the western world, when we have you know leaders of of you, britain and us committing genocides. against iraqis, against afghanistanis and been involved also in the destruction of syria, and here they are again providing you, unlimited support. to the z state to continue its war against the palestinians earlier on we had one uh journalist uh chris williamson that uh in a couple sentences that i'm going to pick out from his quote i think uh sums up somewhat uh very justified viewpoint that he has where he said palestinians did not choose the war zionism has imposed on them they have every right to defend themselves against 75 years of occupation i mean it's like a pressure cooker. right uh we've seen the out uh we've seen the outburers that have happened, we've seen the wars also and uh it reached a point
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where with this extreme cabinet, you know people don't seem to really have grased what was happening this past year, which is almost drawn to an end where you had incursions almost a daily basis, palestinis being killed, albeit a slow pace, uh so uh you know this pressure cooker exploded which we saw operation alocks of flood um tell us what you think about that the couple sentences there that this journalist made and uh you know whether um this operation of flood actually uh is a result of that in some ways oh i think it's absolutely the result of that i mean it's uh you know he's hit the nail right on the head it seems to me with in those remarks i think it was only matter of time um as i've already said the resistance is is is becoming you better organized now in a better position now to mount the sort of operation that they did but look the palestinian people have been subjected to oppression and terrorism. by the israeli uh entity uh for 75 years now and all overtures, all peaceful
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attempts that trying to bring about a uh a credible solution to this situation have been spurned, we saw the great march of return a couple of years or so ago, where israeli snipers were just you picking people off one by one, using exploding bullets to shoot people and people who were wounded in the legs or in their arm. almost inevitably meant because of the type of ammunition that the israelis were using, um, these exploding bullets meant that it wasn't simply terrible wound that could heal, it would ment amputations, and we saw uh, you know, some of the israeli settlers, um, viewing the these assaults on the palestinian people, having a sort of picnic and watching it from from a far, so look, the palestin people. have tried every which way to you know find a peaceful solution, the the israelis have been
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impervious to that, they've also the impes of course to international law, to the numerous un general assembly resolutions which have been passed, criticizing them, and you know the western world, the british and the united states in particular, you know need to recognize that you know they are on the wrong side of history here, they have a responsibility to you up. international law, but but they they are flagrantly disregarding it, and i think britain in particular, you know, has a responsibility, moral responsibility, because let's remember it was the ballford declaration going back to 1917, which is actually led us directly to the situation that we are in here today, so i don't think you know israel, all the uh do have the strength that they that they once had, i think it's also serves the strategic interest of the american and the british elites to have the uh israeli regime in
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place, indeed uh president biden said, before he became the president, he's quoted isn't he was saying if israel didn't exist we would have to invent it, so they you know clearly i think of you, set their cards as it were on on the table, and you know i just hope that the strength of feeling which is gathering in spite. the relentless propaganda, because people, the vast majority of people in britain anyway, are not from mainstream media seeing the reality of of what's happening, they're not seeing the reality of the brutality of the israeli regime, they're not seeing the brutality and the you, the genocide which is being being inflicted right now, by the uh israelis on the palestinian people, carpet bombing, one of the most densely populated places on earth, knowing full well that... will kill men, women, innocent men, women and children, and we've saw how the media here and across the world
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trying to manufacture consent for this genocide by coming out with luuried tails which would have already been completely debunked about uh the resistance fighters beheading babies and and raping uh and so on complete lies, but this of course is is is a the kind of playbook which is used over and over again in order to manu consent to try and soften up the british public, but thankfully now, thanks to the advent of platforms like press tv and and social media, people have an alternative way of finding out information and increasingly people across the western world are not buying into the propaganda which is being spewed out by by the political class and by these appalling corporate journalists. yeah this whole uh media thing is some a war that's being played out there and ali uh i'd like to ask you uh the way that they have manufactured some of these stories which as guess they're said has
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been debunked and how that has actually had the uh opposite effect because there's an extreme uh more than uh maybe before an extreme media campaign to show how israel is victim and how that uh it's the palestinians that are at faults here um but it seems like that's somewhat backfiring but is it backfiring enough and how why do you see why do you see the media going at it so hard because uh if netanyahu is going to be true to his word where he said the gaza strip is going to be deserted island there's going to be lots of palestinian deaths and blood on his hands and maybe at the hands of americans at the same time but uh give us your uh the analysis of the media role in this whole conflict? well, from where i stand here in canada, the mainstream media, whether in canada or in the us, and i'm sure it's across the ocean as well, uk and europe, they are very biased against the palestinian to the point where i call them, you know, how much you hate arabs and you hate palestinians, you
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know, thanks god for the alternative medias and the independent bloggers. who are exposing the lies and the propaganda by the zionists and their supporters, but the bottom line is is not a just the media, you know, it is kind of open confrontation between the people who stand up for justice, for freedom, for liberty, and the people who are aiding and supporting the occupiers and the oppressors. you mentioned earlier about international law, with all the respect, my brother and friend, what? international law, where is the international law to be implemented when we have rapporteur after rapporteur after rapporter at the united nation on the middle east and palestine, you know, raising the alarm about upper tide in israel, about inhuman treatment of of palestinians about all this type of stuff, and you know, nothing happened, so yes,
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palestinian did everything they could, even you know, the previous leadership and which the current leadership. continue to do is you know they put all their eggs in the basket of oslow and what did they get? nothing, just a humilation. here in canada, you know, we are we are facing unbelievable campaign based on life and deception by not only the mainstream medias outlet, but also by the politician, for having sake, imagine a leftist party like the new democratic party is buying into this nonsense and like. and you mentioned earlier about inside occupied palestine about the unity government and that exposed the policy and the lies of the so-called israeli left who were demonstrating by the thousands in the street against netanyahu, but as matter of fact, zionism itself, bring them together and their hate and animosity toward
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palestine, and therefore support for the occupation, that who they are, so you know, i don't have. any hope on those left and you know is not a just cookie pressure or something, it is ongoing, it's ongoing war and and ethnic cleansing was not wrong when he wrote about the ethnic cleansing in palestines, you know yesterday and the day before norman took to the blog and to the x, which you know twitter and you know the the the hate against him and again anyone who would dare and stand up you know for palestine and for their for their life actually because what we are trying to do is with with demonstrations with pressure is to prevent more death even though we know how limit is we are, but the media and the politician label us as a barbarism as you know terror supporters and all this type of
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stuff, so i think it's a open war on. by the resistors against the occupiers and also in every other scene in the around the world and the globe is between exposing the lies, confronting the negative propaganda and asserting the rights of palestinians. sure, you know, one one thing that that i'm curious about here, chris williamson, is um, there's so much talk about how um, there may be new front, war front that may open up like with uh, lebanon maybe and then syria uh, but there's there's another front that i think is opening up, and that's within the occupied palestinian territories, when it comes to the israeli. and these uh extreme settlers the palestinians. i mean, i'm looking down a list of incidents that have increased in its repetition and it's occurrence, i should say,
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24 palestinians so far have been killed in the occupied territories, that number could be higher actually. bengaver vowing to armed settler militias as it's been described, they already have 10,00 rifles that they said come and pick them up, and there they they were actually encouraging that before, but now it's an open all-out go after palestinian. so we're seeing uh this kind of revenge attacks that are taking place and the numbers are increasing uh and that's something that may point towards where the future, the immediate future may hold uh for what's going to go on in the occupied territories. do you think that the palestinians are actually going to rise up in numbers and uh go with what's the operational flood is meant to do, which is somehow bring about if if i can say that the liberation of the occupied land. "i mean, i think they're forcing the palestinians into that situation. i mean, this is what i think has precipitated the the operation that we saw in the early hours of saturday morning,
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the pressure cook that that we mentioned, and you, stepping up the violence, which is already at incredibly high level from the illegal settlers, i think will will force the you, a reaction as it were from the from the palestinian resistance in in the occupied territories as you say, and so..." yes, i mean, i think that is something which is potential development for for sure, but of course the other thing which i think is already happening anyway, and i think this is result of the activities of the resistance prior to the operation on saturday, early as of saturday morning, is the number of you, zionists, israelis who are leaving israel, there was a poll earlier this year i believe, for an tv channel, channel 13 that suggested that 28% of israelis were thinking of of basically leaving, going back, going back home essentially, you know from from the country that they originally emigrated from
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to uh to israel in the first place, the operation the weekend will have only increased that propensity to to to leave, and we're seeing the chaotic scenes at the at the airport, israel is trying to to leave the... the country and you know they are getting increasingly desperate, mean some senior zionists he bar up for example, um former israeli prime minister, was predicting the end of the you know israeli entity within, before the end of the of the decade, that brick a former israeli general in the israeli occupation forces, compared the um israeli population to the the passengers on the doomed titan. so i think you know senior sign this is can see the writing on the wall that this project is unsustainable and uh they've elected now this uh even more extreme right
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wing administration which is i mean you know openly fascists openly fascist you know ministers in in the government so this is you know this is this is this is power cage which is uh which is bound to explode and you go down the road that you know that's that will certainly i think lead to a reaction from from the palestinian resistance in the occupied territories as well for sure. ali mala, iran's leader has said that israel has been damaged to the point that is irreparable. what do you think in one minute? uh, i think it is, i think it is. i think israel is in a big crisis, because you know, the palestinian population resistance and and ordinary people are saying enough, and they cannot. and will not tolerate anymore oppressions, you mentioned earlier about the settlers, we all seen the practices of your settlers against the women, children, the elderly, now you mention about maybe another
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front, well you know sayid nasralah times you know that we ready when we are when we are asked but hope you know the palestinian will will remain statfast in the resistance and you know maybe some pressure from inside is you know on this uh war crazy government, thank you, thank you for that, i'm sorry to to to interrupt you with fresh out of time, ali malo the founder of al in toronto, thank you so much, chris williamson, thank you, host the press tv's palestine declassified from derby uk, with that we come to the end for this edition of the spotlight when we coverway and the team, it's goodbye.
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thank you very much.
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the headlines israel is pushing ahead with this deadly air strikes in the gaza strip and with growing concerns about the humanitarian catastrophe in the enclave. hamas has rejected western claims that have violated human rights during the saturday operation against israel. the group says it only targeted military forces and the israely military has admitted the regime's failure to respond to operation alasa flood launched by the palestinian resistance fighters.