i can quite understand why the hamas took, if you look at netanyahu when he presented arrogantly at the united nations, he presented the new map of israel and the middle east, there is no mention of the existence of the palestinian or the palestinian state, there's a total wiped out, so he is creating a new thing while ethnic cleansing his international. crimes against humanity is not, i think this problem can be solved, the challenge between us is the big powers, the us, britain and all the major powers must say that is real cannot continue to commit international crime, commit war crime, international law, human rights violation, you you name it there, it's israel is there, his government is there. his

extremities are there and i think it's a pity we are totally totally we want to ignore on the basis that of the holocast holocaus has happened the europeans committed the holocast it has happened you have created when united nation created israel they give the bigger portion of the land of palestine to the minorities there is already a wrong from the start so you're not committing allowing them to continue to commit crimes after crimes after crimes without any punishment, instead they are being endorsed, you is a human solution there has to be found, there's a lot of right thinking israelis that are now seeing this way, and now the world is seeing it because of the social media, because of the internet, because of ai, we are seeing what type of leaders they have in history.

what type of government they have in israel, what type of defense force they have in israel, mean it's a very very lame excuse to say that we are retaliating, you are retaliating, but it's all right for israeli defense force, to kill children, to kill the whole family, to bomb buildings, so i think what we are seeking is equal treatment and of equal application of international law. and i think the uh palestinians and the muslim community world over and the the people all over the world, you see demonstrating in all the capitals of the world, they are seeing the inhumanity of the israeli treatment, appetite cannot go on, it's against international law, genocide cannot go on because it is against international law, ethnic cleansing cannot go on, so this is

what we want the us, instead of supplying arms, instead of endorsing as if, israel is saying that is all right, because they are told they can go on doing what they are doing, the lights of the palestinians are not important, this is what i think my, i am, i think feeling very very sad to see that we have reached this stage and do hope. that the whole of the people of the world, the civil society of the world must come up in full support of the palistinian cause, it is not, mean what is there to live for if you don't have humanity and dignity, you don't have justice, say oppress all time, yeah, let me just call you off for one second, i'm come right back to you, these are live and share with our viewers, get them up to date on the wit of images that they are witnessing, these are live images from uh doha, we could see

the ex prime minister yasin says that malaysians are united in their support of uh palestine and this is uh live images you can see there, the qatar capital of doha, earlier we showed you live images from mashad iran, shiraz iran, the iranian capital, tehran, where there's thousands of people out in support of the people of palestine, as bombs rain down on gaza annihilating the civilian infrastructure and killing uh scores of civilians there in the... gaza strip uh sayid you're mentioning sayid albar sir, the legality of using or utilizing water, food, electricity, as a tool of war, of carpet bombing civilian areas of denying opening of humanitarian corridor said for civilians to flee, are these not all war crimes? this is, i mean, this is war crime. and it is a war,

it is katanyahu that declared it is a war, when you are engaged in a war, there are rules that have to be applied, and and they are not. applying that when it comes to taking action against gaza or stopping people in west bank, i think ultimately the world, the international community must come up, and i think it's a very, in so far as malaysia is concerned, our parliament has passed the resolution in our parliament, involving all parties, across party lines, doesn't matter what ideology. you belong to, but we can see the injustice, the inhumanity, the commission of you know war crimes, the commission of genicide, you need to repeat these, you know, under international law, aperty is illegal, unlawful and occupation, you know, since 1967

they've been in occupation and allowing settlers, arming settlers for murdering and calling, and they do nothing, about it, i i think the whole world must you deplore and i think is very obnoxious to see the inhuman acts that is being carried out against the palestinian as if the palestinian is not human is in and i think the west that talks about democracy that talk about conscience that talk about human rights you know we want similar treatment what did you see on the? cranian war, triat it in the same way that you have done, in the case of the occupation or in the case of invasion of ukraine, why there should be differential in treatment? are they is it because they are palestinians,

therefore not human being? is it because they are muslims, majority of them are muslim, but then even the christian, the... gaza or in west bank, not all of them are muslims, it's a question of human beings, how how your conscience? i don't understand this issue of people without conscience. you know, one of israeli scholars and mp in the 2017 say that, you know, it is what netanyahu government is doing is worse than the holocast and.... nazi treatment of the jews at that time and the quite a number of riley scholars and former it is i think the narrative and the propaganda and i think the media of the west should take responsibility on this for

distortion misinformation and the un defines the the people of palestine as an occupied people and not i mean and i'm asking you this because you have legal background, occupied people, do they not possess the legal right to respond to their aggressors? this is a standard international law and law, the palestinians have a right to resist, to international law, because they cannot anything that they want to do as they like with we call upon to answer in the international tribunal, you know in the i think the international icc should call israeli leaders and you you know it is not

their land, they have been occupy 967 and keep on builty, that's wrong under the international law, but then you talk about international law muhammad with the israelis, israelis are given the carter lunch by the major powers, especially you, you do anything, we will not take action, that is right, not wrong, and not right, and you know, say it few years ago, i googled um, anti-israel resolutions at the un, vetoed by the us, dozens upon dozens of resolutions are listed, anyone can uh google it and and search it and check it. and and they're against israel's treatment over the years, these are resolutions against annexation, against violence, uh, against apartide against that wall, against the civilians, political figures said, political figures assassinated and targeted because they speak of freedoms and rights for their people, uh

palestinians and you would see 122, 130, 118, 115 countries in support of that resolution, but it was stopped by one vote, the us vote the us veto and often uh kuala lampuur was part of the world community to condemn the israeli regime. your country has always stood by the people of palestine sir. so you see is this way, that's why malaysia with few other countries, we that united nation and is instrumentality, because it was drop from by the, it may be relevant after the second world war, but it's no longer relevant now, that's why the general assembly, a right to overrite security council, which is

instrument of the general, and the us, if you look at the history of resolution that is been passed or trying to be put through the security council, they have been blocked by the united states in most cases when it comes to israel, not because of mistreatment of israel, but due to the mistreatment of israelis against the palistin. and yet the us, us government, the tax payers are paying for all these crimes committed by israel, the tax payers of us, the taxpayers of uk, and i think more and more people now are seeing the truth, the narrative that has been said that the lies on history, the lies on the political, the narration has is changing now, but the the the palestinian is facing all this thing, but they have they can be reasored that the world will be rising

against this atrocities against what is happening now, and i think we have to keep on, you know, bringing the whole issue until the people in the various countries go up against their government for their commitment to oppression, for the commitment to violation of. human rights, for their commitment to appetite, for their commitment to war crime, for their commitment to genocide, i think we have to write the narration now, let us not let other people write the generation for narration for us, i think we have been keeping silent for too too long, now there is the the the advancement in technology, it is time for us now to let even now you can see. how they have used the propaganda machinery, how the major newspapers and the tv channel in the western

countries block all news that show you know it is the palestinians who are the victims, it is the israelis that are oppressers, they are trying to distort, but more difficult now for them to distort, because even in the treatment of people when the hamas went in, the treatment of the israelis in the house, it comes out in the social media that they treated this people with dignity, with humanity, not what the western press have been showing, i think you know we must call the contion of the west, i think even haris, the newspaper, the editor of the newspapers in israel now are seeing the truth, what you want to see is let us speak more about the truth of what is happening, really happening on the ground, and i think this is the best way for us. demonstrate all over the world, the and do things, not for, you know, we want

to uphold justice, you want to uphold truth, and i think this is the best way and the best time for us, is the you, it's ridiculous for you to talk about in as if a state cannot commit terrorism, hm, the biggest state terrorism is committed by israel, if you compare... israel is one of the big, they have got the biggest armed forces in the world, one of the biggest arm forces, one of the strongest armed forces and if anything they are missing, then the major powers will re refurbish or resupply them with new arms in order to kill, you must stop this killing, murders of civilian, of children, short out right, these are people who have no connection with the land there, i think we must we must uh get rid erase the lies of the

zionist movement on what is really happening on the ground and i think now is the time that we can do it, now is the time that we must take advantage of what is, what is the what need to be done, how they have act in the? most inhuman way in the history of mankind, oh i'm very sad to see that people, i have heard one former zionist person, he says: i was a person who is victim of the you know the nazi camp and what we are doing is worse than that pardon me let me just let me just update our viewers we have live images coming in from the iranian cities hold on one second say i'm going to come right back to you but let me just let our viewers know what the what they're seeing we're joined by on

the left of your uh screen there um said i have your name right here, you're still there, right? okay, and right, and the middle of your screen for our viewers, i'm just sharing, there's live images of a protest, a pro-palestinian protest from tehran, on the right side of your screen there, that is the iraqi capital, baghdad and earlier we brought you images uh from yemini city of saada and the iranian cities of mashad and shirz, now sayid you mentioned this whole narrative that the us keeps saying and the israele authority keep saying we have a right to self-defense, we have a right to self-defense, but in any country, obviously, unless you go to the states, obviously the us has this narrative, and you mentioned it only for the israeli regime, because anywhere else you go, a right to self-defense is using enough force, and you very well know this, that is proportionate response to stop an immediate threat of attack or injury to you or someone

close to you, it is not, self-defense is not said six days of offensive bombardments of a... of civilians and civilian infrastructure of men, women and children of schools, homes, hospitals, un shelters, using banned weapons including internationally banned white phosphorus bombs, say it? i think you know it's a very big joke when you talk about right of self defense, you are not talking about the hammas or the people in west bank have got conventional armed forces or even right of self defense, one of the of the condition of right of self defense, it must be proportionalate to the force that is being used, anything that is above, the israelies choose, you should see the statement, the retorics of of netanyahu, he doesn't speak

like a person who is who has got feeling about other human. be to him, the palestinians existence is not necessary for the continuation of the state of israel, this is ridiculous, so i i think we want to call our friends in the international community, the western powers, the big powers to try to sell liberalism, democracy and also, freedom, dignity, trying to fight. over the world, let us see your track record of that and see that you practice what you preach, it is important to practice what you preach, there is no equality, you tell me 50, the last how you can blocate under what law can a blocade of

16 years of gaza, 56 years of occupation? you know since 1948, the creation of the state of history, you have been disposizing people, and i mean we want rationality to come and you know, you must engage if you want to find a solution, you must engage even your enemies in order to find a solution, if you do want to find a solution, you see, okay, the killing of palestinian is acceptable. the killings of muslims are acceptable, you know is xenophobic and is very racist, what what is what is happening? i think we are calling on the constion of the various government, various people in the west, let us look at

how to resolve this problem, you have solved the problem, and said you have yes, you're mentioning benjamin netanyahu, we know he's built his career on giving zero concessions to palestinians and and unfortunately he's received the vote time and again to remain in office, so obviously his sentiments are echoed by a large constituency of the israeli people, because they will not put him up there when he has turned his back and he supported apartide throughout his career against uh the palestinian people stripping them more and more. their uh freedoms and their rights and their uh any kind of entitlement they may have to the land there to a self-identity to a future to an existence and can you indefinitely turn you're back on an occupied people said as netanyahu has, as his supporters have, and expect nothing in return? i think the only

thing that can happen if we take the west take the position that island is taking, talking about humanity, talking about justice, talking about, you know, even in the case of i hear the the people say that this apety is... worse than the one that in south africa, the practice of apetite in, what are you talking about the most democratic state in middle east, what democracy is there, so i think it is, but it can happen if the usa, enough is enough, wrong is wrong, crime is crime, international law is international law, don't redefine international law in order to suit situation. i i think it is important to search in our logic in our mind, what type of ideology you want to adopt when

you allow crime against humanity when you allow war crimes, when you allow genocide, and i think we are just calling on the people, on the government that have got the the power to stop all this, the israelis will never. stop it, the government will never stop because they say we endorse, you know, european union say is okay, we you g7 say it's okay, we condemn or the hamas because it is a terrorist organization, but we don't condemn the state terrorism committed by israel, let let us tabulate on the wrongs committed by israel and the wrong committed by the palestinians, here the palestinians are are being occupied. and under international law they have got a right to resistance and they are possibly dispossessed and people who come from nowhere and take the

land and then they are armed, they are supported with the arm conventional armed forces of israele to kill these people, so i think there will be no peace unless the issue the palestinians are resolved, what we are talking about is finding. and honest and sincere political solution solution to the whole problem and give back the dignity and humanity to the palestinians, and i think they are not asking too much, what terrorism is it when i'm defending my my dignity, my life, you kill every day, how many people, how many palestinians you kill? one one if one israeli is killed because is this a resistance by the palestinian then you can hundreds of palestinians and then you start

to say you know this is in response to what the hamas is doing how much shooting missile while the israelis cannot only use all kinds of bomb they use also the illegal weapons that all these all these things. are not actually, i think we want the truth, we want everything to be put on the tables, we want the israelis, if they are wrong, they are sit to, both sides can be called for, to the to the court of justice and see what happened, and these are, you know, there are records of it, i remember appearing in the international court of justice, we took an advisory opinion, the oic at that time i was foreign minister, we took action against the the wall and the international court just of course it is advisory say the wall is illegal, but then

the international law does not apply to israel, so we want now that international law and united nations, united nations security council must act to stop this scarnish, this destruction of human lives, don't look at the destruction, the killing or the people who die in israel alone, look at what happened in palestine, this is what we are asking, that's not unreasonable, so i think it is demonstrated, if you see the demonstration throughout the various capitals of the world, it shows that people understand who are the... victims and who are the oppressers, are the aggressors of the whole thing, and i think we hope that this will be a start of new search for. and realization that the the

palestinians have been denied too long the rights, their freedom, their dignity and their humanity and justice has feel them. thank you, say hold on the line please, for viewers are joining us, these are pro- palestinian rally images you're seeing from the iranian capital tehron, we are speaking to sayid albar, former malaisian foreign minister and former justice minister about the plight of palestinians, the the hypocrisy we've seen in in in the reporting, the narrative by western governments in their support of the israeli regime and the atrocity is committing against the civilian infrastructure there in the besieg gaza strip is resulted in over 1500 deaths, mostly civilians, over 500 children killed over 700 women, so in 15 or 1600 fatalities that

almost raps. up about 12 or 1300 of them right there, you can imagine uh over 2600 apartment buildings have been completely leveled, over 26,000 have been partially um damaged to the point, many of them where they are uninhibitable, sad this uh you mentioned this and these are live images now out of aman jordan, earlier we brought you images from the iranian cities of tehran, mashad, shirz, the yemeni city of saada uh ichion is south korea, doha, qatar, and now this is aman, jordan, we all know, also know there are dozens of masks that are having holding rallies throughout malaysia, and joining us, i just mentioned is a former malaysian foreign minister and former minister of justice said albar, sad albar, you mentioned the selective application of international law when it comes to how the regime is is

treated these. the regime. now you know there's some random regime in africa run by a certain uh leader, they commit few dozen murders in a protest, they're pulled before the icc, maybe a condemned to life in prison, but we see the israeli regime never be held to account when it comes to international organizations. when you're the us, when are the europeans and having that selective approach to the application of internet international law, is that not a bad precedent that you are setting for your credibility, for the credibility of your international organizations? i think we are poor that the double standard, selectivity of the definition of international law, definition of the rights to self defend, you know the, i think the wanted.