hello and welcome to press tv spotlight, i'm here hashame, thanks so much for being with me. sunday was day nine of the war on gaza, palestinians who leave their homes or those who stay to those in the north or those in the south, everyone's a target in the gaza strip, and there is no safe place. so far, over 2600 palestinians have been killed with 700 of them. being children from newborns to

octagenarians, no one is safe in gaza, there is no electricity, no food, no fuel and no water, although the israelis have said that they will turn back on the water supply for southern gaza, this is genocide, and the israeli regime has the approval of most of the western regimes. i'd like to welcome my guests to the program to help me look at all of this. out of london, activist rapper and host of the watchdog podcast, kareem dennis, and out of chicago, political commentator, shabir risby, thank you both for being with us, well let me start in london with loke or karim dennis, um, where do you think, let's look at where this all is going, i mean, those on the ground in. that say despite

going through several wars, they have never seen anything like what is happening now, do you think the israeli regime is responding in the way it is because of the major blow it received from the resistance on october the 7th or how do you see it? yes, absolutely, but that was in and of itself a manifestation of the, the status of zionism as a social arrangement, essentially it is a dying idea which is becoming more and more. difficult to sustain, you are talking about cruelty on industrial scale to millions of people, being a constant characteristic of zionism, and that is becoming harder and harder to justify, not only to the world, but also even to the people that israel relies upon for human material. we look at the recent situation, you saw flights coming from germany, from uh... uh bulgaria, from other

countries in europe to come and collect people and take them out of the political entity uh known as israel, and that was because this is becoming more and more um of tenuous situation by the day and a harder to sustain situation, so the palestinian story is essentially story of staying power, and at the moment it seems like... the aim is to try and move up to 1.1 million people out of ghazzah and put them into the cienide desert of where some form of tent city would be put there for them according to israeli officials okay so stay with me stay with me we're going to get to that part of it but let me get shabir in on this discussion shabir the zionist regime has bombed un facilities ambulance as journalists people who were leaving via the safe passage corridor which the regime had guaranteed, i mean, your

comments on this as each and every one of these actions is a war crime, isn't it? yes, i mean, if you look at the actual, you know, start of the israeli experiment, that and of itself is a war crime, the entire idea of israel has been a war crime, from start to the very you know actions that we see carried out today. in fact, the last time i checked, um, "according to the gaza health ministry, 50 entire families are now wiped out from the ministry, from the gaza health ministry, and top of that, as you mentioned, they are targeting journalists, not only in vaza, but of also as we see yesterday, a journalist from ruuters was killed, abrudus wouldn't even mention the name israel, so you see the exact amount of power that the zionist lobby has to the point where uh members of un humanitarian missions are being killed, journalists are being killed. yet none of these western um

organizations or these or these organizations that are popped up by the west will even go so far as wag finger at israel so you see the exact power of the... lobby while meanwhile the rest of the world, what we would call, for example the global south, she's exactly what israel is, it's a dangerous political entity, we do need to stress the fact that is a political entity, and it's committing uh ethnic cleansing before our very eyes, while western governments sit back and do nothing, in fact some western governments have gone so far as even encouraging it and writing uh a quote on quote political blank check to the zionist regime allowing them to wipe out family. for example, well karim, do you think that the israelis are playing psychological game as well on the palestinis, you had mentioned about to the 1.1 or 1.2 million people that they've ordered to leave from the north to go to the south, um and of course it's total chaos, and uh, as i had said

earlier, even the safe passage was even bombs, so what does it all mean, what do you think they're trying to do? well, essentially. israel is trying to extract some form of um price on what actually took place which was um the stability of the idea was massively shaken with earthquake you know when we look at the rome statute of the international criminal court the crime of genocide is actually defined as deliberately inflicting a group of a group um conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in hole or in part, well when we look at the depriving of a civilian population of electricity, food and water, water for which you cannot live for longer than three days without, then that certainly fits in the international criminal court's definition of genocide, when we look at the

geneva convention's definition of willful killings as a war crime, according to article eight, the uh, it would definitely measure up to what israel has practiced, you have for example in article 8 torture and inhuman treatment in the geneva conventions, what israel has done since the 7th of october would certainly qualify in that way when we talk about the severe psychological suffering that palestinians have had. this is nothing short of collective punishment and attempt to delay the inevitable. well, shabir hamas is is telling people not to leave their homes in the north, as this is a trick by the zionist regime to cause new nakba. it's. says that the regime want palestinians to evacuate their homes and destroy them and create a situation where they will never be able to return to their homes and land again. um, your thoughts about this? yeah, as we saw yesterday, families did try to evacuate and actually take the uh, take the warning as is,

and what we saw was that very humanitarian, that that group of people actually through that corridor be annihilated by israeli air strikes, where are these people? to go where if they're being asked to retreat from the north on their way to the south they get slaughtered, if they stay in the north, they get slaughtered, if they if they move south they get slaughtered, in fact the ruffle clossing itself has been bombed repeatedly areas towards it, these people are trapped and the water has been turned off, and now they can say for example that they turned on some aspects of water, you need electricity to run the water in gaza, and the electricity is, they still have no energy there, they have no electricity. so this is just somewhat you know kind of pandering to the to the some the humanitarian quote unquote voices in the west that they're asking to turn on water and that they actually capitalated but the reality is they didn't the reality is on the ground they are carrying out ethnic cleansing they're carrying out genocide and i think you

know what said to that this is psychological warfare that they're trying to trick you they're absolutely correct because they did try to evacuate and they were slaughtered. "i mean, uh, katim, if we look at the situation, even hospitals have been bombed, and now uh, hospitals are told those that in northern gaza that they have to relocate, supplies are few, hospitals overcrowded, people being treated on the floor, and filled with critical patients, i mean, what does that mean when the israeli regime tells the hospital staff to relocate to the south? well, essentially, it's a threat because it's saying that - 'if you do not leave when we attack the hospital, you will be hurt, and let's be clear, israel has form, it has bombed several hospitals during this campaign, including a dura hospital, which is a children's hospital, supposed allegedly with white phosphorus, which of course is a

prohibited weapon, so we are talking about war crime upon war crime, but what we are seeing is that israel needs asymmetric warfare of striking from the air, it seems to fear the ground invasion, which it has threatened for a long time, and it seems to be trying to use the... threat of the ground invasion as a bargaining chip with which it may be able to extract the prisoners of war who are in gazza and let's remember that israel up till now since the 7th of october has killed around 26th, 26 of the people that were taken captive. it has killed 26 israels in the air strikes on gazza. is this the application of the hannibal directives which we know exists within the israeli militant? time will of course tell, but you are seeing reports from those who were taken um as

captives um from within the green line, saying that others who were with them were killed, other hostages who were with them or prisoners of war were killed by the israeli forces, so what does that do even our perception of what is the death toll? israel claims to have the bodies of 1,500 palestinian fighters from the resistance fac. within the green line, do we know the conditions within which they were killed? of course, al-jazera has produce a investigation which found some palestinians within the green line being killed, um, were unarmed, and had their hands up, of course there's been other investigations that have found similar evidence, so the question is is is is open, there are likely to be many palestinians stuck und the rubble now as we speak, so even our perception of the death toll is massively skewed, i would argue. uh,

shabir, when, while all eyes have been on gaza, palestinians in the west bank have been going through their own hell, aggressive and increase israeli patrols and raids are in place, and there's a lockdown on palestinian areas with over 50 palestinians having been killed, and 500, over 500 arrested since the increased aggression began. you're. take where where do you think the situation is going on the west bank? yeah, i think the occupation forces are definitely uh increasing their hostilities towards towards the palestinians in those areas, and actually if you look at some of the videos of of the palestinians being martered there, you see it's actually settler accompanied violence, i believe there was a video that came out of settler with a gun who shoots uh a palestinian man that's missing an arm already point blank and he's accompanied by uh occupation forces so i think this is a time where we're also going to see lot of settler violence in the area, the settlers are more

than likely take this advantage, take this time to take advantage of the situation and harass palestinians, assault them more, grutally uh fight them, uh, do what they have been doing, but now uh with more further occupation forces um protection to allow them to get away with these horrific crimes, um, i think what we also can expect from the west bank is its own form of resistance, as we've been seeing uh, not only in the form of uh civil resistance as we've seen a lot of street protests, but resistance fighters also taking action against the occupation forces, heroically combatting them in the streets, heroically taking shots at them wherever they can, uh accompanied with of course uh in between all these acts, um protest that we see, i believe we saw protest at ramala for example, among other acts of disobedience, because people are not going to sit around and just allow israel to get away with ethnic cleansing, they're not going to tolerate uh an entire population being genocided before

their eyes. well, candy, we've been seeing uh more aggression by the israelis towards southern lebanon also, and hezbollah has responded today by hitting five israeli bases in the occupied territories. do you think that this war is expanding? without a doubt the war has expanded not just regionally but international nationally with the british sending spy plane, which they operate themselves over the top of occupied palestine, also the us sending several warships, essentially as a warning to any people of conscience in the world who would hope to come to the aid of the palestinians, but essentially all of that is attempt to delay the inevitable, as as i was saying about the invasion or the the potentially imminent invasion of ghaza, the israeli. military traditionally only has about 160,000 personnel within it, it has now claimed to

have called up 200,000 people um from the reserve military, that means they've taken 200,000 people out of the traditional economy, that as well as the disabling of bengorian airport will have major economic ramifications and that can be seen on the israeli stock market, but in terms of... the push uh with lebanon, israel is now claiming that it can fight this war on two fronts, since the beginning it has bombed syria, it has bombed lebanon and it has bombed of course gazza. and as was said you have seen around 50 people in the west bank be killed too, but what israel knows is that in lebanon there is a far more experienced and essentially well-armed fighting force that israel fears, so can israel really deal with um the exertion of force, it will take in the

west bank as well as a ground occupation of ghaza as well as um major moves from the south of lebanon and the north of palestine, would israel be able to withstand that, economically speaking, would it be able to convince uh the settler population that what it was doing was somehow justifiable, i'm not sure, you would certainly see the society fall into chaos very swiftly. well, shabir, um, iran's foreign minister has said that iran cannot remain. a bystander while israel is committing massacres against the palestinians, what do you think that this could mean and and are we likely to see uh wider scenario in dealing with this war? yeah, iran has lot of options on the table right now for when it says, it will not stand eitherly by, few of those would be you know us military bases that are located across

iraq, across syria, across the region really, so if we want to talk target uh, the united states has set a top up to be - easy target throughout all of these regions, so that could be one possibility of uh iran getting involved, another would be um, arming up its forces, um, pushing them in the ground war, uh, not necessarily it's uh, like you know it's army, but of course sepal or the irgc would more than happily be able to you, back up its forces in syria, for example, um, and then of course not just iran, but there's other uh you know people from the axis of the resistance ready to fight too, of course we have in yemen ansadarlah pledged um their full support to the palestinian cause uh waiting uh and you know letting people know that they are ready to strike back against the israeli entity of course we have in the north hazbullah who we know the the iran foreign minister has met with uh just few

hours ago um who are also as you said ready to fight back against the israeli entity so i think we could see uh whole regional access uh fight israel within within possibly hours to the next few days even. well c you mentioned about what the us and the uk uh basically are doing and uh continuing trying to help uh this regime against uh humanity basically. mean let's look at this this uh perspective what's going on and this total uh of any kind of humanity and openly showing it, um, but at the same time we also see movements, major movements inside of the uk and inside of the us by the people um, actually demanding a change from their governments and also demanding that israel stops at genocide, so i want to look at both sides of that. well, essentially what you

have seen over the past few decades is the complete integration of the military. and security states of britain, the united states and israel, this is essentially a trilateral force which is able to project its power into these societies, and really britain has shown just how deeply integrated it is with the israeli military establishment, even in comparison to something like 10 years ago or 15 years ago, it's far more deeply um integrated with israel, and so therefore. you are seeing the attempt to crack down on people's ability to stand with the palestinians in this society. you are seeing the targeting of those who are prominent in their support for the palestinians. you are seeing attempts to really have even waving the palestinian flag be open to interpretation as possibly a criminal offense

by this particular government that we have here. now you have hundreds of thousands and of people at least within british society who feel a deeply emotional affinity with the palestinian people, and of course that's a drop in the ocean when compared to the rest the world. the majority of states in the world came about through a process of decolonization, they are former colonial states, they the formerly colonized states, they relate to the palestinians as as seeing themselves as post-colonial. subjects, they see um themselves in the palestinians, they have this deep affinity with them, and of course britain as a country that occupied 14 uh... seven million square miles of the planet, it has people from all around the world in it, particularly in the capital and other big cities, and these are people who

will not let go of palestine easily, they are, they are people that in this country who would be willing ultimately to face legal um sanction by the government for standing with palestine, it wouldn't be the first time, it has happened before and people would be... willing to do it, you also see inspiring movements in this country, shutting down israeli arms factories, so while the political system and the military and intelligence establishment goes one way, i would say that members of the public generally are going the other way, zionism as a top heavy movement is rarely successful at winning hearts and minds, and this uh campaign has been another example of that failure. well, shabir, um, do you think the equation in palestine has changed forever since october 7? because before that, of course, the zionist regime always tried to

portray itself as invincible and also had very good control um over uh pr if you want to call it that, but they're really beginning to lose that front also. i mean, your take on that, has it changed forever? i think without doubt it's been. change forever, the bloody knows that the zionist regime has been dealt uh a uh since last week uh, it it can't be clean, um, as you see, with the ongoing operation uh led by all factions of the palestinian resistance, israel is having a hard time containing this, um, they're resorting even thinking about a grand war in gaza, which if you asked them a month ago, they would have never even thought was was on the table really, as far as pr goes, we do see uh at least across the west, the unified effort of state, of heads of state, of media, of influencers and celebrities coming out in unison trying to do pr essentially for the

zionist regime, but as you can see with the millions of people across the world emerging out to the streets, and for example, just here in chicago we had 10,000 people uh show up yesterday for a palestine rally, another 1000 on wednesday and 15,00 people uh exactly seven days ago, you know, no matter what unified effort is being made to clean up uh for for the zionist uh crimes of of war and ethnic cleansing, the people stand with palestine easily, without a doubt um these narratives are being openly challenged um and it's going as far as you know state accounts of israel using ai generated images um to try to convince the people that you know they're the victim of this when in reality uh the palestinian people have been under attack uh since by the zin. since 1948 and even beyond that with british colonialism. all right, and on that note, thank you both for being with me, karim dennis, the look, activist, rapper and host of the watchdog podcast out of

london, shabier risvy, political commentator out of chicago. and as always s we appreciate you being with us on another spotlight. i'm marsia hashimi, signing out for myself and other group right here in tehran, see you next time. or standing on the ruins of the house overlooking the school in the northern gaza strip town of beit hanon. the israelis rounded them up and killed 16 of them where they stood, mostly children and wounded more than 55 oters. the children. were playing in the street, some were playing on the swings, we were surprised by the explosion, but when we turned round we saw the children had become shreds of flesh laying in the street,

some were injured and some others were dead. my uncle shaban, jamal and muhammed were among those who died, every child of palestine now carries with them memories of explosions, of screams of horror by the inhumane, uncontinable. from the environment to business and economy to civil and human rights, to treaties and agreements, to war and conflicts, we bring you the over aspects of world events and news from the farflunged corners of the globe. 10

minutes only on press tv. الرادم وش لشر لها ما تعرف غير المحبه بس وينه هالها ويا ربي من عالي السمى نزل نحل.

the israeli occupation demonstrates its hatred on houses of the lord. this mask was reduced to rubble by f16 warget. their weight led to the destruction of the houses around the mask causing the fall of marchers and injuries amongst neighbors. the mask: the palestinians did not stand on the romans of the mask idly, but they created temporary amors that don't protect them from neither the cold of winter nor the heat of the summer.

your headlines for this hour, the un calls for an unimpeded humanitarian access to the gaza strip warning the blockaded territory is witnessing an unprecedented human catastrophe. iran's president strongly condemns israel for forcing the people of gaza from their homes, saying the regime's actions of reminiscence of the nazi's behavior, and pro-palestinian rallys continue around the world as the israely regime continues its brutal aggression against the beseeged gaza swit.