hello and welcome to press tv's spotlight. marzia hashimi, thanks so much for being with us. over 2800 palestinians have been killed and some 1,0 of them are children in the continual onslot of the gaza strip by the israeli regime, and more than 10,000 people have been injured. pressure continues on palestinians in the west, make also as our attention has been on gaza, 65 palestinians have been killed and over 1300 injured in the west bank during the last 10 days. nearly

1900 israels have been killed and more than 3800 injured by operation al-axa flod. all despite the rising palestinian fatalities, people in both gaza and the west bank say october 7th will go down in history for what the resistance was able to do. it is also the day that the true image of the israeli paper tiger was seen like never before. well, i'd like to welcome my guests to this program. elijah macneer, journalist and political analyst out of brusselss and co-founder scottish palestine solidarity campaign out of edinburgh, thank you both for being with me, i'd like to start it off uh in brussels and elijah, well the resistance operation on october 7th destroyed the invincible image that the... had tried to portray, i want to

talk about the effect of that on both sides, one for the resistance and also for the israeli regime. thank you for having me, thank you for coming. do think evens of september is going to be a historical day, because that mark the defeat of the what it used to be called the invincible army, but above all what is the most important, it has created a state of uncertainty among all the settlers and this uncertainty means that no longer anyone living in israel feels secure and has lost the trust in the israeli army to defend him or to defend the family that were coming from all over the world with only the religion of judaism that united them when they come from europe from... from ethiopia,

from russia, from all different countries, they have nothing in common but a place where they have taken by force and is offering them protection and facilities. well, that has gone on the 7th of october, and this is what is represent the huge hit, not only to the government of benyamin netanyahu and his far white extremist members of the government, like ben and smotic, but to the entire israeli society that feel that israel has shaken and is no longer as strong as it like to offer itself to the world, however still control the media that for sure and is still silencing the whole western world, nevertheless the ground has shaken under the defeat of israel and only. handful of few

hundred resistance in palestine, broke all the security and technological cameras and measures around the biggest concentration camp in open air that is gaza and managed to defeat one of the strongest brigade that is called gaza brigade and managed to take over 1999, which is what we know so far, prisoners among the... was four generals of the israeli army and others, so for that hit, this is why israel has lost control and gone completely mad and resort to his powerful air force destroying gaza and inflicting such a big heavy casualties on the civilians, so again israel is violating international laws and all the new year geneva convention and the un

charter by indiscriminately killing all the civilians in gaza under the excuse at getting rid of hamas. when more than 10030 children and women have been killed so far and these are not hamas or they not islamic resistance or any other fighters because they are too small to wage war on israel, they will one day, this is why the israeli kills them when they are too small, that's the israeli doctrine, well mick, as elijah has just stated, over... a thous kids have been killed, there is no water, electricity, no food, and no fuel in gaza, how can the world, the world of 2023, just sit and let this genocide happen, well how could they sit and

watch afghanistan being reduced to terrible situation at the cost of i think two trillion dollars by the americans. how can, i mean, the the control of the media and the the willingness of the nato countries to support war crimes is very, very strong. i mean, the invasion of iraq, uh, i think madelin albright was asked before the invasion, uh, that, she was told that half million children had died, iraqi children because it of of the sanctions, before even the mass killing, uh, and she was asked if the... was a price worth paying for to realize american uh goals and she said yes it's a price worth paying so they're quite happy to see half million iraqi children dead because of sanctions they're quite happy to see they were quite happy in my youth to see 3 million vietnamese dead

after america invaded so the the idea that the there's nothing surprising in european elites striving to control access of informa access by their populations to information that would help them make sense of what's going on, and concealed the most bloody aggression, it just is part of european and north american ruling class uh skills, they do it, sometimes they lose, and sometimes it fails, and i have to stress in the case of israel, there's a real crisis brewing, because and i woke up 9 days ago on saturday morning and i could not believe... i was watching on tv, i thought i had studied israel, palestine in depth for very long time, but i hadn't realized what the palestinian resistance was capable of, very few people outside did, so i was alone in my, i was, i was not alone in my ignorance and my

mistake, but it was quite aston, it was so astonishing that just as the hezbolah defeat of israel in 2006 has been... studied at great length in in war colleges among professional soldiers around the world, this will also be studied in war in in staff colleges and in in war colleges because it was so remarkable, and as elijah has said, it's the story of guerilla group fighting asymmetrical war against very powerful opponent technologically, and achieving the most finishing breakthrough, breaking out of cage that israel used to israel used to sell that idea, their technology and building cages to other countries to say, look what we've done to the palestinians, they are reduced to impotance by our cage technology for the american border with mexico or some

other place, and that's been blown to pieces, so what was achieved was utterly astonishing, beyond almost human credulity to believe that that was that was happening. so amazing, now israel is settler colonial project, it wants to follow in the footsteps of america and australia and and clean out the native people and replace them withincoming immigrants. to achieve that they don't just need to have a military edge, which they have, i mean, france had a military edge in algeria and and lost, but they need to have an overwhelming invulnerability to any reprised. by the natives that makes resistance unthinkable, that's been the zionist doctrine since before 1948 and every day since then, and that has been very badly dented, no question about it, and i think their salesmen going around the world are going to have to sell their goods that are much lower price, because they were

tested on the palestinians and seem to have failed, um, but going forward, they will reak terrible havoc, it's vengeance um in in gaza, they've been humiliated and then they discuss openly that they must restore what they call their deterrant edge, they must restore the the myth of their invulnerability, and that will mean thousands of corpses, that will mean the refrigerator. vans in gaza at the moment are filled with small bodies as they were in 2014 and 2009 and the cost will be extremely high, but if i just had a final sentence, in a anti-colonial struggle, it's the people who can, it's not the people who can kill the most to win, it's those can take terrible punishment in algeria, in vietnam, in palestine and continue to resist, that looks like to be the palestinians, yeah, well what about that elijah, i mean the... have been resisting for 75 years and mick said

that the regime the israeli regime want to try to uh get back that invincibility uh image do you think that it's gone forever elijah with what has happened mean you're talking about uh a resistance that's basically um highly surveiled controlled uh and then the regime of course having the most sophisticated weapons, uh, helicopters, airplanes, everything, but look at what happened on october the 7th, your take, has that that image been gone and tarnished forever, actually, so for the first time it is not israel that wages war against its neighbors or again the palestinians, it is the other way around, and this is what is driving these really is completely off balanced, and this is why benyamin netanyahu

said nothing in the first hours and in the first day, they were all under complete shock, because normally it's israel that starts the war and israel that decides when to begin the war and start gathering all the forces, equipments and effectives and allies for the war, this time israel was surprised and did not expect, apart from being a total intelligence failure and the capacity of hamas to be able to hide such a large scale operation, and this is where i come to the number two of my point, which is hamas is no longer fighting with stones, hamas is no longer fighting with sticks or with light arms. the experience that hamas and the axis of resistance shares among themselves. the knowledge, the weaponry, the tactic, the

preparedness and above all the spirit of fighting for survival, and the contrary, the the israels are the occupiers, they don't fight to survive, they fight because they are told the that their air force can destroy everything before the infantry goes in and they will fight. a war that is kind of electronic war. this time they were faced with something completely different that they are not used to. when moshed was a chief of staff and then defense minister, he told his prime minister gold, tell me which arab country you wants me to occupy with only the music unit of the army. well, that's gone because hammas showed capability of breaking the image. the invincible army forever, it's not going to be for year or two, no matter

what they do to gaza, no matter what if even if they go for a ground invasion, this image has been broken and really hamas proved and the islamic jihad gaza with it inhabitants, because you need a society that is expressing solidarity with all the resistance, otherwise the resistance cannot survive. so the whole of gaza showed that the israelis are really weaker than the spider net and they can be defeated and gave a big lesson to the all the gulf and arab countries who are normalizing with israel saying this is the entity that you want to put your hand with to protect yourself see what we can do in just few hours causing 500 killed and 2,500 israeled. yeah, that that's interesting what you said,

elijah, and what about that mic? i mean, it's also, it's not just the image that's been destroyed uh, for the regime itself, but but let's talk about it in the region and what that means. elijah talked about the ar regimes who um, basically had given their hands and solidarity uh with the regime, i would think that they would be pretty unnerved. right now also just like israeli settlers are, well yes, i mean, america was trying to cobble together alliances to isolate iran. uh to say that america was going to start concentrating a a con potential conflict with well a real conflict in a potential war with china in the future and therefore they would be they would be paying less attention to to the middle east and therefore these regimes should really depend on israel to protect them from a supposed iranian threat um that looks like

not such a good bet anymore um but but i i'd like to. disagree a little bit, not disagree, but i'd like to stress rather differently, the the the terrible cost that israel can impose upon the palestinians, so i think that um they don't care really about the the hostages, um, i mean, the israeles have long had the so-called hannibal directive, that if anyone's captured by the palestinians, then they they obliterate the area and they kill the israeli captive in the process, rather than have them become bar. ships to release palestinian prisoners, so they're bitterly cruel towards israelis as well, um, but they also have the go still with a term from the ancient world, they also have the samson option, they have 200 nuclear weapons and when the state is threatened, which it will be, there's always the threat that they will use these nuclear weapons and they are so

crazy, i mean the west has not has incubated in israel a state. which believes that not just palestinians, but even their friends, their allies hate them, that the whole world hates jews as axium of zionism, and therefore uh, you know, they they often don't calculate as rationally as other states, so i think that yes, they've suffered a terrible blow to their credibility, and across the middle east and beyond, people are inspired by by hamas, inspired by the palestinian resistance, and we can't see this with million people on the streets of sana last saturday and huge crowds in in in in the other middle eastern capitals and way beyond, they will be exerting pressure on their rulers. one of the goals of the resistance nine days ago was to prevent normalization between israel and saudi arabia, it's a success, they've done it, and i think that won't be the end of it, other

regimes which have normalized and semi-normalized will come under incredible pressure as as a popular inspired by palestinian resistance, because the whole thing is is intimately connected with the psychology of arab of arab peoples, they will put their rulers under great pressure to abandon or to annull normalization and to begin to to to to give some support, real support, not just bandages to the palestinians, so yes i think in that respect, it has changed the psychology across across thousands of miles and millions. of people, hundreds of millions of people across the middle east, it's an astonishing achievement, it really is, there's nothing quite like it, the only thing i can think of that compares a bigger scale, but not quite so dramatic, was the tet offensive in vietnam, when america was always winning, talking about winning, we're just about to win, and then suddenly out of seemingly nowhere, the tech offensive

smuggled, you know, actually removed the will to fight of the american of the american government, and i think this is comparable, although it's still many steps to go. right, well, uh, elijah, because i'm reading some of the latest uh news, different situations that have taken place, now it says the israeli regime, the police there and bought over 6,000 rifles for 566 new civilian response units that it has founded um with for border cities and major cities and mixed arab jewish cities uh... uh that they have prioritized uh as those most urgently needing the forces and it says since october 7th some 4100 israelis have applied for a gun license compared to 38,000 annually and ben gaver's office uh relaxing of course uh any criteria for pistol licenses so what do you see this going? what

does that mean? well arming the sectors is something that... is not new at all, on the contrary, they this is used to terrorize the palestinian civilians, and to make sure that they can always kill and accountably any palestinian they want, and to violate their privacy and take their home, remove all their properties, destroy their olive trees, etc. so the settlers enjoy. the support of the israeli army all the time, they don't move without the support of the israeli army, they too cowered to do that, and they more cowered by attacking these palesty civilians who are un arms, we've seen when they were faced with the um with the people of gaza and the the

palestinian resistance in gaza, what they have done, we will see them what they will do if they go a ground invasion of gaza, we've seen them before in 2012 when they invaded gaza, what happened to them and how they did not manage to advance but few hundred meter with all their... mighty of military equipment, so all that is not going to change really anything, but we've seen and i had mainly laugh when netanyahu asked joe biden for two million individual rifle, automatic rifle to give to the settler so they can defend themselves when israel manufactured these weapons, so he's really trying to squeeze out of the americans anything he can grab, so it is just show of meanness. and just saying that we are defensive, since when the israelis are defensive, if they want to move in any manifestation, they have a whole army more than manifestator with them,

protected them and supporting them, terrorizing the palestinian, not respecting the un resolution of allowing people to worship in jerusalem and respect the right of religion, spitting on church and on mask, this is what the israeli do on every day because they'... thought they are the new dominant of the of the territory, well they are mistaken for the first time israel is shaking with or without tens of thousand of individual weapon is not going to change anything and of course there's a lot of fear inside of the regime these days from the settlers as i've been reading uh many different things online about that extreme sense of insecurity. that the settler's field. on that note, we have to end it. sorry, we're out of time, but i appreciate both of you being with me. elijah macneer, journalists and political analyst out of brussels, mick napier, co-founder scottish

palestine solidarity campaign out of edinburg. and thank you viewers for being with us on another spotlight, i'm hope to see you right here next time. imprisonment in the israeli jails has a special taste, has a special condition, has a special experience 99 سنه و 99 سنه. من ضمن التعذيب الجسدي كان الهز وكان الشبح على الكرسي الصغير. the palestine to destroy the

humanity, the soul of this dettonee. targeted attacks on civilian infrastructure with a clear aim to cut off men, women, children of water, electricity and heating, with the winter coming, these are acts of pure terror, and we have to call it as such.

merci, bonne soirée.

the headlines iran's leader calls for the trial of israeli officials warning that if the regime crimes against palestinians continues, no one can stop muslims and the resistance forces. the world health organization warns of a real catastrophe in gaza. as the israeli regime continues its bloody onslot against messiest territory and the hamas resistance movement says it is not intimidated by israel's ground invasion threat, warning the gaza will turn into a graveyard for its invaders.