and real feel they don't have the high tech, they they they beseed place like gaza strip for the last six 17 years when this place manufacture their own drones, manufacture the their own missiles, manufactures their own guns from material recycled material, this is the ingenuity and the genius guys in there is amazing, while the united states of america and the west supply europe with the state of the art technology and at the same time, the zin entity became the base of the soviet military complex after the collapse of the soviet union, they and before him gorbachov bush half million nearly of the soviet scientists in the under cover they were a jewish people who immigrating to palestine and all of them russian orthodox till today they they built the strongest military peace in the area united states of america used and

the west used and they invested in it heavily and it's approved all of this technology, all of this hype, all of this doom system, iron of doom system and the arrow and all of that is nothing, the the the the can stand against the will of the fighters who want to counter their enemy, it's all hype and it's all collaps and that... that's why the viciousness of this massacres after massacres in gaza, they want to white wash that image of failure from the psych of the zin entity, instead of installing horror and terror and fear in within the palestinian, they install it in their own settlers in in a cubit palestine. let's cross over now to activis and commentator from limeric ireland, mr.

edward horgan, sir, welcome to the program, i want to start off with your thoughts, your opinion, your reaction to the news of the israeli regime attacking uh the alahli hospital in central gaza yesterday, like most people, i am shocked at what has been happening, in particular the bombing of the hospital, by israeli, the israeli military have tried to put the blame back on the palestinian people with clearly a military in a country that is committing war crimes has no helitation in also telling lies about those war crimes and trying to put the blame on the victims of those crimes, what's happening in gaza at the moment and in the broader sense against all the people of palestine amounts to slow-running genocide beginning in 1948. and now being intensified

over the last week in particular, i agree fully with the comments by the previous speaker, saib shat, on his comments, but very clearly, the breathes of international law are very clear in what's happening, including the breaches of the genocide convention, the geneva conventions on war, humanitarian. law and the un charter in particular, several articles of the un charter had been breached and are being breached since 1948 by the israeli government and by the israeli military, the land of the palestinians has been increasingly stolen, the people have been dethically cleansed, going right back to 1948 and continuously in the meantime. in

1973, almost exactly 50 years ago, i served as united nations peacekeeper in the sinai desert, quite a few members of the un peacekeeping mission in synai was killed of trying to achieve international peace uh 50 years ago, this has not been successful, the un has not been allowed particularly by the u.s. using his veeto and support of israel. and the un has not been allowed to create international peace, particularly in the israeli palestine conflict, the killing of innocent children in particular is most appalling, and huge numbers, many thousands of innocent palestinian children have been killed in over the last decade in particular, and as we are speaking, children are now dying in gaza in particular, for lack of food, disease and direct bombings, the many

children were killed in the most recent bombings of the hospital in central cars. the forceful removal and ethnic cleaning of the people of northern gaza into southern gaza is very clear breach of the genocide convention and the un charter, the international media which is largely dominated by the us, has been taking the side of israel and... publicizing the propaganda by the israeli government, and this is happening even in ireland, the european union is also actively far more pro israeli and is not doing its duty to condemn the crimes against humanity

that are being committed a daily and on an hourly basis in gaza and in the west bank, huge amount of... property, sorry, palestinian property and palestinian housings had been stolen by the israeli government and the establishment of israeli settlements particularly on the west bank and east jerusalem is in clear breach of international law, not only humanitarian law, but the un charter itself, there's a huge need for the international community to... unite against genocide everywhere, in recent times we have also seen genocide a smaller scale happening in armenia, with very little protest from the international community, what's happening in

gaza is now at least very public, but not enough has been done to create peace, the united nations needs to be allowed to do its primary mission, which is creation of international peace, but the united nations has been prevented, particularly by the us, and its allies on the un security council and the veto wielding powers, particularly britain, france and united states are supporting israel, and effectively facilitating the crimes against humanity being committed against the palestinian people. those are you just joining us live images that are taking uh of the pro-palestinian rallies that are taking place across the globe from live images that we're getting right now from uh ramal in the occupied west bank all the way across to

cities in tunisia uh cities across iran uh even in european cities we've been seeing these constant demonstrations taking place. in support of the palestinian uh cause, the palestinians in gaza, and also all of them denouncing the israeli attack on the hospital uh in gaza, the alahi hospital in the uh central ghaza, these are live images now, as we mentioned just a minute ago from ram allah in the occupied west bank. ابو عبيده يا حبيب ابو عبيده يا حبيب اضرب دمر تلاقيب اضرب دمر تلاقيب سمح سمح كل الناس سمح سمح كل الناس وحدتنا هي الاساس وحدتنا هي الاساس وحده وحده

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الله احمي غزه يا الله في سبيل الله في سبيل الله قلنا رفع اللواء نستغي رفع اللواء خلض الدين مجده فل يعرض الدين مشده فلسط منهم دمصر منهم دماع فلسط من الدماعصر من الدماع دعوه لل live images from rally taking place in ramadan the occupied west bank and now we see demonstrations uh taking place in oman and what appears to be outside the israeli embassy in uh oman which is denouncing the attack on the uh hospital in central gaza, the al-ahli hospital, and now back uh to the

images that we're getting from the demonstrations and riley's taking place in the ramaline, the occupied west bank. edward horgan, uh, what's your reaction when you see the this widespread, worldwide international reaction uh to uh, to the israeli crimes and in support of the palestinian cause. the irish people have been very supportive of the palestinian people and there has been demonstrations in dublin and in lemerick and another large demonstration is planned in dublin, ireland for the coming saturday, so the palestinian people are not alone and have lot of support internationally, even if this is not getting into the international media. same question to uh mr. saib shath, mr. shath, we keep coming. back to these demonstrations, but it's such a uh an important and significant event that's

happening right now in cities around the world, what's your reaction when you see these uh worldwide rallies in support of palestinians? mr. shath, can you hear me? yes, please, go ahead, from yesterday, from last night, after hearing the the news, the heneous crimes. from the hospital, we seen capitals from the arab world and canada and canada and france and all lots of capitals around the world, that night straight away they went in the streets in their thousand, we we seen in in barcelona, hands fight last night between the youth and the police, so the the the the support, this is what the the

the western elite, leading elite was engaged or embed with the government, united states government or western governments or eu elite as well, they couldn't understand and and they were in in bbc asking me this question many times in radio and why... in the streets that support for palestine and if you look at the other side, the the the one the fascists who are engaged in support of the design entity, very few, this is because the people don't depend, i said on the media, mainstream media like bbc or itv or, they people are now are sourcing their media their information. and news through social media they hear and the people are smart and educated and aware

and they see the victim they understand the victim and they know who's the aggressor whatever the the presentation the western media trying to present to the people the z is the victim the people rejecting it and in the streets of violent or the streets of london or manchester or the in tens of thousands and of people bord to the streets in support palestine and all of them condemn the zionist entity and this is from all walk of lives, you can see the protestant, the catholics, the muslims, the jews, the voice the jews were at the forefront, condemning designist entity, communist, socialist, students, young, old, this, that massive support is there, but this massive support shows. the the tyranny within the western societies, it's not translated into mps

representing their own community and districts in their parliaments, it's not interpreted as political decisions, the western society on a regime established within marshall plan of... after the second world war, which is rebuilding western europe as investment for the united states of america, and all of the system in the is not sovereign, it's... controlled by the united states of america, there is not a single state and all of west europe, especially who can take a decision, contradict the american position, and we went from the war in ukraine and we witness what's happening in gaza, the people is on one side and their governing elite on the other. mr. horgan, what about

the issue of accountability with regards uh to to the crimes that have been committed by the israelis, the... has to be uh some form of accountability, some serious consequences for the crimes that are being committed for the killing of children, targeting schools, targeting medical facilities, attacking the hospital that took place on tuesday, the issue of accountability is very important one, um, if you go back to previous genocides, even a hundred years ago, the armenian genocide occurred, uh during the ottoman empire times, the ottoman empire and the successive turskish governments have never been held accountable for those crimes. genocide appears to be successful because there is no accountability, so there should be accountability for all serious crimes against international law and in particular

the crimes of genocide. to a significant degree, some accountability was achieved for the holocaust. the jews during world war ii was probably not enough um and the fact that genocides are seen to be successful and that encourages the continuation of genocides in more recent times, the gen in cambodia in rwanda and thels where were those responsible for those genocides including those who facilitated them uh and and many western governments were compliced in facilitating past genocides, the fact that they were not properly held accountable, leads to further genocides, what's happening against the palestinian people since 1948 and particular, is very clearly the slow-running genocide now being more intensified and the ethnic

cleaning that's occurring not only in gaza, but also in the west bank, is an act of genocide, accountability is extremely important, but accountability has been prevented by the members of the un security council who have veto, particularly the us, france, and britain, and that's where the failure to achieve accountability, is actually happening, but it is extremely important that israel be held accountable for. genocides and that all other countries to commit genocide should also be held properly accountable and by the international community, that is why the various campaigns for devisment and by cot of israel uh are extremely important and get good support from

the people of ireland and elsewhere, but clearly international law is being breached a daily basis in palestine and elsewhere, and the fact that there is no accountability means that other genocides, in addition to the ones that's happening now in palestine will continue unless and until proper accountability is achieved for all serious breaches of international law, but particularly genocide, which is by far the most serious crime against humanity. so shath, let's address that same question to you as well, that's the uh... uh matter of accountability with regards to the israeli crimes that have been committed against gasens, not just over the past few days, but uh the crimes that have been committed against gasen since uh all the wars that they've carried out all the way back to the 2008 2009 castled war and also the crimes that are being carried out against uh the palestinians in the occupied uh west bank now

before we continue with that these are live images uh from nablus - where the pro-palestinian demonstrations denouncing the israeli attack on the hospital in central gaza, the alahi hospital uh is also um commencing as well, so we can see that hundreds, if not even more cities are part are um holding similar rallies in support of the palestinian cause. mr. shath, the issue of accountability, how can that issue change given uh the uh unequivocal support. that the likes of the united states have given to the israelis, which as experts point out, the israel have shown over the uh years that they believe they are above international law, how can that status quo cha change? since the creation entity in in palestine, by the way, i just want to give a historical background

to this entity in a quick, in a minute, the the idea of this entity in in palestine, which separate west asia from africa, which is house that region housing the arab world and then it's the heart of the islamic world. from there they want to put palasant was the idea of bunapart, when bunapart went and invaded egypt in 1799 and then invaded palestine and was defeated in ak in palestine and committed massacre in java, which is tel aviv today, beseed gaza was defeated, couldn't conquer gaza as well, and the french left and the their campaign was a failure in egypt since his lead the leader of... campaign after punapart called claber was assassinated by the revolutionary salman halabi from went from gaza uh and at the end

the day when the french left the english opened their eyes they said this creating such because the french used the french revolution rhetoric emancipation for the jews it was the most anti-semitic slogan which is decorated with emancipation terms for. the jewish people, wanted to cleanse the jewish people from europe and put them in the heart of palestine to serve the french empire, the english got that and the english continued their battle after defeating muhammad ali who established a very strong egyptian state which extended unity, egypt, lebanon, syria and was nearly reaching the asitana, near istanbul to control the islam. ottoman empire which was weak and europe wanted to divide at the time, so put new blood in it and make it stronger, all of europe moved on lead by the

english and the french to destroy muhammad ali and it was in in near syria when the english landed near latkiya and there and they they stopped muhammad ali and forced him back in egypt and reduce his army to 5000 soldiers and reduced they put the... the printing press the throat in the nile destroyed the schools destroyed the whole thing from there the english ecuation start creating the zinis entity and we start to hearing about the bulfer declaration and that for them for the english was the tool to secure they are the upper hand as an imperialist force in in that area of the world and de facto after that saves its roots to from australia to india and take all this oil in that area the same. the same thing in that hitler when he had his campaign barbarossa to occupy russia and then to come down to the middle east call it the vice

crib, we see his forces met the english forces in the desert of egypt and libya, where they coming to secure the oil fields in that region, so we'll understand from all of this of all of these imperialist powers okay, focus on that region, you talk from french, the english, then the nazis, then now the united states of america, you understand how significant for them is the zinus entity to keep it protected and to keep it active and to use the jewish, the poor, brainwashed jewish people, turn them into zits as a tool for them to control and to dominate the area without losing one american life, without losing one british or english life, just let the arabs and and these each other to control and to dominate that area, that's where is the umbrella of international law, it doesn't work since the second order was most of it by

the united states of america, agreement of creating the financial mechanism for that, so this kind of mechanism created and secured that entity after that, so the units of america since then will not allow - this entity to be weaker but to be stronger, the this massacres the of gaza happened last night, is one of tens of massacres happened to the palestinian people even to egyptian, even to lebanese, even to syrian even to jordanians and there is never ever the international community got israel accounted for, there is resolution issued after the creation of the zenist entity 181 which is with it, from it, they created the entity, it didn't apply that, that resolution, which give 45% or nearly 50% of the land to the

palestin. to create their own state, most of the land which is the palestinian fighters went from gaza, which they call as the envelope of gaza is occupied land, so by international law those guys entitled to liberate their land, and then still the signist entity and the western media tells you and biden this israel have the right to defend itself, how an occupier have the right to defend themselves on an occupied, they create... their own tools anders when they want suse some when they want in the same thing resolution 194 at the back of 181 allowing the palestinian refugees to return home and to becombescated for their loss and never been implemented and and and you know so the the international system the international law it doesn't apply when it's

have to uh deal with the the victims like the arabs or the rest, but it's applied when there is one thing, we remember one resolution was based on lies issued against iraq, and then suddenly chapter seven of united nations was applicable and they invaded iraq or in the back of lies, this is the double standards in the international community, and that's what the lot of people in the streets, they felt and understand, they do understand their elite, their governing elite is about... bunch of supremecist liers who lie to them and they don't trust them and this is why the palestinan resistance and the arab resistance islamic resistance develop its tools because they know they know the international system is controlled by these supremecis and and some of them openly nazists these days live images that we're we're showing you from around the world pro-palestinian rallies uh

are taking place in cities around the world and uh all of them have one message in unison and uh that is the condemnation of the attack on the alahi hospital in the ghaza strip which took place yesterday 700 palestinians were killed, at least 700 were killed as a the israeli attack, so many international figures, international um officials have weighed in and called this unacceptable, a war crime, massacre, genocide, uh, the attack that was carried out by the israeli regime, more images of of these demonstrations and rallies that are taking place right now and nablus, also uh on your screen, back to...

mr. sabab shath in belfast, mr. shath, talking about the us involvement uh in what's taking place right now. various leaders including the iranian president, including the hamos political bureau chief have said that uh the attacks that are being carried out by the israelis and the overall uh assault that's being carried out on the gaza strip cannot happen without the green light of united states. now please tell us few agree with that statement. and the question here would be following this attack on uh a hospital, which is uh wrong on so many levels and also is in defiance of international law, we ask how far will the americans support the israeli regime? you cannot, you cannot separate the design entity from the united states of america under any leader, it doesn't matter from barack obama till, and his dibut is to be biden, biden. himself in

in 1986 or when he was a, if there was israel there, we have to create israel, israel is the best investment we have for three billion dollars year, because it's it's protects their interest and support their domination in the region, this is how they look at israel, they look at israel is their advanced military base in the middle east, the imperialist imperialist line against the people in the region to keep the energy and to keep the transportation in the heart of the world that eastern mediterranean is under domination of the united states of america and through that the united states of america can control uh how many barrels of oil china will have if if if the times comes they want to impose sanctions on china or or stuff like that.