big is about to happen uh the fact that uh you're a journalist of the cradle tempted me and i did to go in and see what the cradle has to say about this and uh one of your fellow journalists has said that the us and israel have different goals when it comes and i'm reading it off from the bombing that's happening says televi wants ethnically cleanse the palestinians washington wants to bring back the pa uh which sounds kind of uh well you tell us what do you think about that um are we are we looking at two different agendas? but yet uh both uh still are in support of each other in a sense? well the way that we see it is uh supporting the pa is basically lost cause because the pa is crumbling, the pa is uh continuing to have deep security coordination with israel, it's continuing to repress it citizens in the west bank, uh, it can't go on like this, the pa came out last night and attacked protesters in in the west bank were coming out in solidarity with uh with the the palestinian

resistance and with gaza and who were condemming the horrific air strike on the hospital um so there's no there's no way that we the us can continue on this path and also it's shown that it's uh it's been putting its full support behind israel you know when you have the cancellation that took place with jordan and with egypt um some are saying that shows that uh the us has lost its influence. um on the one hand when it comes to uh the palestinian cause when you have uh these for example egypt and um to have cancelled and jordan uh the visit that took place with uh joe biden the us president but you know they're they're on us's payroll aren't they? i mean they're getting millions and billions of dollars in aid uh but has the us lost this legitimacy in a sense uh when it comes to the palestinian cause and if so are we looking a pushback and therefore a unity of the persian golf arab country? against the us and in turn

israel? well, so far, all the gulf arab states have done is offer statements of condemnation, which we know is not enough, in a statement released by hazb allah recently, they said that condemnation isn't enough, and there needs to be widespread action, so that remains to be, that remains to be seen. widespread action, means what, condemnations, as you said is not enough, and in what form, the iranian foren minister at the oic meeting in jetta has said that... uh, for example, severing ties with israel, any country that has that or placing some kind of a sanction regime against israel, could be start, could of be something that should should be done, what what do you think should be done? this is will definitely any attempt at normalization after this should be considered out of the question with any arab state, most particularly saudi arabia, and in terms of sanctions, do you think that i mean that goes of along the lines i think of what the bds?

movement has done, maybe that needs to uh be revamped in a sense and uh be executed in a more tangible way, what do you think? these are all, yeah, these are all important things, but i think at this point what we should count on the most is armed resistance and the success of the resistance in gaza and the success of the resistance access and the coordination we're seeing between lebanon and syria and the palestinian factions and iraq and even yemen, so we need to count on the fact that the access of resistance is not going to stay silent. over these continued atrocities uh the armed resistance that you're talking about has taken some form and shape when it comes to uh not only hezbollah but also the resistance fanctions that are in southern lebanon um but those uh skirmishes have been somewhat contained uh do you think therefore that others need to jump on board and exercise some kind of as you said arm resistance against israel uh hours and if these atrocities and attacks against civilians in gaza continue. and definitely,

we've seen palestinian infiltrations over the last few days into israel, uh, not very successful, but a wider scale and with coordination with the hazb allah and the rest of the factions, something can be done, and this is what the iranian foreign minister has been warning over of the last few days, so this is what we're counting on, and what if they decide, they the israeli regime forces decide to come into gaza, and we see the civilian death though to rise, including the the... the fact that israeli soldiers are also by many military experts said to lose their lives were that to happen uh with the civilian casualties to be estimated to be about around 100 thousand based on some analysts and estimates uh do you think uh that when that happens and if the civilian death thel accumulates then that is when a call to action maybe uh enforced uh definitely and this has massive ramifications this will you know lebanon will be included in the the regional war will break out

basically. okay, um, and if that happens, the the the one of the purposes or one of the goals as i mentioned is the fact that um as wants basically palestinians to be uprooted uh from that area from the ghaza strip uh this uprooting is like another natu and many region countries are against that been very vociferous about that such as iran such as qatar even saudi arabia why is israel then keen on doing that something even the us um is uh not completely on board with israel on well israel is showing that it really doesn't care about the opinions of other states israel is openly calling for ethnic cleansing, israel's openly calling for an expulsion of all these palestinians into the into the desert in egypt through the into the sine, but we're also seeing many, many, many, many, many palestinians in gaza who are saying we refuse to leave our homes, that they are not afraid of israeli bombing, no

matter how many civilians that they come and they kill, there are palestinians who are going to remain in their homes and iran and hazb allah and the resistance access countries will prevent a second nekba from taking place, this is for short. great, thank you for that. let me bring in now mimial laham who's a syrian activist joining us from perth. mimi elham, welcome, welcome to the program. um, taking a look at what is occurring over here, uh, the visit by the us president joe biden was nothing short as he said of all lot support for israel, even throwing uh the uh doubt about how israel may not be responsible for that masker that took place at the hospital. uh, how do you see the us support here in the in the um dimension that? iran's leader has said where he has even said that the us is in devising uh the plans that are being executed by israel, are we looking a co-op here or are we looking at israel saying it's going to go ahead with its plans and the us given a green light? i'm trying to understand the depth of the us

involvement to hear from you. i think the us is basically a confused, it probably wants to rain is in but it can't do. so buse israel always been the one that controls the united states and not other way around. i believe if the us wants to reign in, they want to do it for israel, because they know the war with mas alone or alone is going to cause massive, is the prime minister netanyahu um obsessed with trying to draw the un, the us into a war, whether it's with his. bullah or whether its ultimate prize netanyahu's eyes is with iran using the situation in order to continue um and uh then hopefully draw in the us uh into this world mind you we have uh the reports that i'm sure you're well aware the us to have sent uh what it calls uh special

forces composed of uh sailors 2,00 of them dispatched to the area you have the two carriers and um along with the uk at this point also to have joined in. uh, sure, basically the netanyahu has been calling for war between the us and iran for decades now, i'm sure he would like nothing more for the us to destroy itself in war with iran. however, i think in this case uh, it wasn't his original part of his calculus, because obviously in this war, it's not going to be just between the us and iran, israel is going to be the target, so uh, i think that however, certainly. israelis want to unleash the united states its enemies, including hizbullah, but they're afraid that if the united states gets involved then iran gets involved and that will be the end of israel. let me ask you that same question uh fuad

walid, i mean you know to try to pull in netanyahu that is, his mindset, many are saying is to pull iran into uh the picture and for there to be a war against iran, but doesn't. israel see that uh operation alaso flood debunked any invincibility that it had in terms of its capabilities and how then it would uh think that uh it's going to be able to deal with iran unless it counts on the us uh and combined uh maybe think that there's a hope that it can defeat iran even then um that's something that uh based on many accounts is not going to be possible based on iran's capabilities uh definitely if the operation al-aqsa flood has shown anything it's shown that uh israeli military superiority is a myth that continues to be broken and broken time and time again, this happened during the 2006 war in lebanon, um, this continues to happen over the last few confrontations between israel and the factions in gaza, and definitely this massive intelligence failure that uh that resulted in

the in the success of the operation, israel has been distracted, israel has been involved in way too many foreign conflicts, israel has been shifting its focus onto the west bank. where resistance has been surging through the roof an unprecedented way and um it all culminated in a massive failure which allowed for this operation to be successful. me mayham, so the front... with hezbollah is uh has opened up, but as i've mentioned before, it has been somewhat contained, even though there are fears that are that this is going to elevate into the next phase, um, we know's capabilities, what about the other fronts such as uh, you have yemen, you have iraq, you have uh syria, um, are we looking a point where those fronts are going to join in, or are we looking at phases here, um, and and of course that comes with the... question whether israel is going to really go ahead with a the ground operation and then we have to wait and see the way that it executes that

ground operation. i think the israelis have some hesitancy. sorry, sorry to jump in, iran's president is speaking, we got across on over life to to listen to what he's saying. let's listen to iran's president. the compassion of the merciful.

pushed the palestinians to the bring, they lost their tolerance, their torture, their incarceration, all the disrespect and disregard and sacrage of alax, destroying the dignity of human beings and many other forms of so they started this operation called alaxa flot and they imposed huge defeat on the enemy.

the regime that has in its position seven intelligence apparices for the security of that regime apart from the so-called iron done, in addition to mosad, it has six other intelligence machines. defeat the delta heavy blow.

now in this frustration mode, designers thought that by storming and raiding residential areas, the oppressed people and women and

killing of women and children could make up for their failure, but those are supporting regime today, we have the the us regime. today the security council of the us, you can see that the whole all of them are there, the secretary of state. defense secretary, the central command, he was president himself, they're all in the occupied territories these days, now today, it's the the battlefield is

managed by the americans, because after this defeat for the zionist regime, master of the muslim fighters, as well has mentioned. israel is weaker than a spiderweb. now the fact that the matter is that the zianist regime with this huge defeat that it face, it's crumbling, but americans are have rushed. the equipment and the hardware are.

they belong to you, americans, people of the world regard you as accomplice to design crimes. slogans of death to america. now in addition to the military.

they all hate and they all love all these horrible crimes being committed. this is another defeat for the design regime in america.

they want bombardments against residential areas to come to an end that's a

regime in different countries, they must be expelled and the embassies of the zionist regime must be shut down, من در ارتباط با روئسایی مختلف. leaders of different countries in the world to have to say that the the head the one security council in a telephone conversation told him that not even for a single minute should there be any delay in stopping the bombardment and in the lifting the siege of gaza and also starting uh will

be reflected and mentioned at the security council and follow-up will be done, but hours pass it's 18 hours since the bombing of the hospital and so the corridor could be there so that food and supplies could be taken to people in gaza.