imbalance and and prejudices baked into the the structure of the un with the security council and so forth, um, the us power to veto resolutions that condemn israel or anybody else that that they decide they don't want to to see criticized, um, it it becomes a little preposterous, and i get the feeling that in terms of public awareness, this is this is starting to sink in a little bit, one does. doesn't feel that that um the uh the the un is taken very seriously uh by anybody anymore the public at at large, but but look you know the the the the strike on the hospital is perhaps now going to become the signature crime of the 21st century at this point and and maybe for very long time moving forward um you saw israel damage control uh

immediately rush into place that oh it was a hamas bomb because you know it couldn't possibly we couldn't possibly be bombing hospitals and yet and yet that what is coming back to to to bite netanyahu is his cynicism in awarding positions in the government to people like the minister of defense who is um extreme far right-wing fanatic, and he has been making statements cheering on the violence. um, the the the entire like look cabinet has been cheering on the violence. it it, the people who were trying to deal with public relations for israel, right now have a hard hard time, because israel, the the political class in israel is not hiding their contempt for the people of palestine, for the people of god. the west bank, they are not

hiding it, it's it's shocking in many ways, and yet you will still hear westerners, i was just reading an article by a well-known journalist who was saying, ah, but you know, i sympathize with with this little country, this poor aggreeved country in the middle east, and i thought for second, he was speaking about about the palestinian state, non-state, but no, he was speaking of israel, this kind of... delusional lack of historical perspective is is is is common, mean it is, it is more common that i would like to admit, and you certainly see in electronic media, but um, but but public opinion globally is decidedly against israel, i think we have reached um kind of watershed moment, the protest everywhere on every continent,

massive protest uh against israel, there are very few if any pro israeli protests, so in spite of the propaganda machine, the demonizing of iran, the demonizing of hamas and hezbollah, and libya and assad, all of these campaigns, these propaganda campaigns, they are all failing, they are all failing, because because the naked and undisgised violence of... the israeli state um can't be covered up anymore. yeah, and that's the reason, isn't it? because of the decades of the oppression that has happened. you know, when we mentioned that, it's not a, i mean, you, you, you said it yourself, and that is clearly evident, the protests that are broken out all across the world, not just the high in terms of the number of protests, but also high in terms of the numbers for participating in the protest, and in some cases, unfortunately, some of the protesters are putting their lives on the line to make the palestinian cause hurd. and solidarity

because they're seeing the type of masaker that's happening. um, when you say it's a watershed moment, what do you mean define that for us, because that that's a pretty uh has heavy connotation, what exactly you referring to there? well, i'm glad that you pointed out firstly that lot of countries, especially in the eu, germany for one, france for one, have criminalized descent, if it's pro-palestinian, it's being called either anti-semitic or... against national morale or you know any number of things, but people are actually being detained and arrested for walking down the street with palestinian flags. um, but in terms of watershed, i think that everybody suffers a kind of trauma, fatigue, we get so jaded and cynical, we've seen so many pictures, so many years. we can

remember specific events, the boys whose feet were shot on the beach, that father and son who died in uh the the shootout, we've seen. constant uh displacement of palestinian families by settlers going in and throwing them out of their homes, so we get fatigued, we get jaded, but but when a massive munition, a precision guided bomb by the way, jdams are, and i'm pretty sure that's what this was, that hit the baptist hospital, you don't bomb hospitals, don't tell people at hospitals, they have to evacuate, hospitals are where people go who can't go anywhere else, can't move, can't flee, can't hide, uh, they're on life support, they're in er, it

it, it's a, it's the one thing that is the war crime of all war crimes, schools and hospitals, but particularly hospitals and here they'... israel hit this hospital with a massive munition, it had to be targeted because that's a precision guided bomb uh, there is there is but one conclusion and that that the the state of israel is in a genocidal frenzy, a desire to wipe out palestinians and they're not hiding it anymore, and for someone to deny that, that's the watershed. if you, if if you insist on being on the wrong side of history, you're going to deny this event, that violence, what's happening to palestinians, um, then,

then you are forever going to to suffer the shame of of that moral collapse, i think, the number of lies that have been fed by israel is quite astonishing. when you think about it, i mean um, first of all, these are also, i'd like to just review some of them with the deprocatory statements to say the least, such as the evacuation of hospitals that israel says that that it had uh forwarned, well as you said, how can hospitals get evacuated, where it should be the last bastion or the last place where people can can get refuge in, it's something that's undoable, especially when it came to israel saying that uh, it needs to palestinis need to mobilize from the north. to the south, also looking at uh the false claims that were made by about the beheading of children and the rapes etc. that was released by the netanyahu office of which the us president himself said that he seen the pictures and then having to retract it of which you had major media organization presenter come out and apologize in a post uh

that it had reported on that uh also other instances in previous wars uh that israel is guilty of uh of basically putting out this information but the most recent one when it comes a phrase that that was used that is now going to be uh the line that the us is going to use and that is the one that it talks about uh the intelligence of which it calls it and describes that uh with high degree of certainty uh that intelligence is pointing towards the fact that israel did not do this well we all know what a high degree means right mean first of all what intel us or israel has that you can rely on based on the huge failure that they just experienced, but nevertheless based on the previous wars when they use this phrase, we all know that that means they're not 100% certain, so they trying to use that line to save themselves, right? yeah, there are photographs of um of

the damage to the hospital, people have also seen photographs of israel, white phosphorus, a war crime, and as you mentioned in the lead into this, there are decades of stories, decades of examples, of of violence against palestinians, uh, and in every case, go back decades, israel has lied about it, i mean that's what they do, they they spin stories and and they come up with justifications and they blame hamas. blame iran, they blame somebody assad or whoever, there, it's be, it's become less and less convincing, because we've heard it all so many times before, and and i think that, i think that the their as i said, that the people handling the the press

for israel, have a hard job now, because the politicians themselves are openly calling for genocide, the they want... and nobody is under any illusions about this, so uh, the the people who who cling to to some sort of support of the... project, which is settler colonial project, it's racist its core, and and if you cling to that, you just, you just, you are just going to to forever be seen in the shadow of of this this, as i've said, this moral bankrupcy, this moral collapse, because what's being inflicted on palestinians is is unendurable, these people have been pushed to a place. which one nobody, no group of people can endure, they

they get israel with a flip of the switch cuts off water, electricity and food, what kind of situation is that where one people can do that to another another people, and where is the outcry, there should be a massive outcry from the un, condemnations coming from everywhere, where are those uh, it's it's. it's in hundred years people will look back on this you know with with just jaws dropping mouth the gape out you what a picture because they're not going to believe they're not going to believe the kind of propaganda that people swallowed about this conflict. um palestinians have nothing and and they've been punished for half a century and um i think a lot of people in the world are figuring out that. has to stop, yeah, the the figuring out part is uh, is the part that

uh is key here, i mean, you talk about a colonial project, some are saying that colonial project has failed, um, and and that the figuring out part is going to, unfortunately, by the time something is figured out, uh, there's going to be - more casualties that are going to accumulate, the death count is just going to continue, but when you say figure out. what what would be the solution? mean, you can't go back to what it was, moving forward, israel is going to, what, what is israelians? well, they want them to be uprooted again, and obviously the palestinians don't want that, regional countries don't want that, so uh, what, what can be figured out here? most of the previous solutions are are outdated now, there's no two states israel has to lift the bloccade right now, get emergency supplies and medical

assistance and care and food in there, and those people living in the gaza strip and the west bank have to be have to be protected and given some autonomy in a state, however they carve it up, but for right now that's the bare minimum, lift the blockade, get food and medicine. in stop bombing helpless civilians, stop murdering children, bombing hospitals, that's the first thing and we'll figure out the rest as we go along, do appreciate it from uh indoor norway, let's go to human rights activist who joins us from occupied, welcome to the program, "we just heard from the un, um, the representative from the russian federation, uh, which i want to ask

you, did have point where not only shows the dysfunction of the un, but he referred to how uh this uh dysfunctionality is attributed to uh members who did not realize that if they were to listen to the russian uh proposition that maybe they wouldn't be looking at what they're looking at right now. in particular, i think he was referencing to the us and the others who uh when it comes to israel. um, let's not get into discussion of the inefficiency of the un, but why is it then uh that uh the us is not put under pressure when it comes to what is happening there uh in the gaza strip? i mean, obviously the visit by joe biden is testament to how it's giving israel the green light to continue with what it's doing. well, you mentioned that the un is inefficient, yes it is, it is inefficient

international organization for the palestinians, we have a bad, actually a horrible experience with un security council and the general assembly resolutions since 1948 and mean i think there is like 1000 resolution that came out from the un and none of it was applied to the palestinians, why? because the the us is a partner. of this regime that they installed here in palestine, first with and then they took over, so it's not for us, we didn't think that the us will accept the the proposal from the russians and it's not the us, you can see that france and

the uk, now japan is on board as well, have refused refused as well, refused the proposition, so um, we don't rely much on what the un is doing, if it doesn't reform, if they don't reform it, no one can tell the us what that they should behave differently, you know, if we want to compare ukraine with the pale, look at the behavior of the usa, they considered russia. and occupiing power, but when it comes to palestine, which is which has been occupied for 75 years now, they don't say anything, they just go along with the story, because this entity, this military base is base for the us actually, and it serves its interest and the interest of its allies, so no matter what we do, we

can change the the status quo of the... you and unless, unless the merging superpower now can do something about it, we heard the russians talking about the inefficiency of the un because of ukraine and because of the resolutions that they took against russia, but for us palestinians, this has nothing to do with the international law, with the international humanitarian law and with the human rights, so unfortunately for us, the us now is our enemy, it's not only in the colonial power, the colonial appertite power in occupied palestine, it's who's behind, this colonial regime and who is providing it

with all the support that they need, from day one they started ' you know sending their their equipment, military equipment and look at the fleet, you know, it's across the mediterranean to the eastern side, very close to gaza, so this is a show of power of course, but they are here to interfere when the time comes, interfere, mean now that the israelis are talking about a ground. um invasion, there is 2000 american soldiers who are going to help them, first because they don't have confidence that the israeli army is capable enough of doing its job, because that's how it how it is, with the last operation, the al-aqsar flood, they proved

that the military establishment, the security establishment and the... did not do their job well and the americans know this, why is biden is here? biden is here is to help the israelis do their job in gaza, they want to wipe out any palestinians, if it's in their hands, they will two million palestinians from gaza, and that's what they are doing on the ground, actually, they want to push the gazan people to the south. okay and israelis can easy an easy entry to to gaz northern ghaza stay with usdan thank you for that human rights activist from ramala, we're going to cross on over now to uh south lebanon uh we have actives and political analyst sarbas resby who joins us from that

location to tell us what he's witnessing there uh sabas what do you have for us uh good time, kav, i am here in aitab, aitashab is one of the villages just next to the border between israel and lebanon, in southern lebanon, and this area, southern lebanon from the very beginning of today, from the early morning from, i mean half tree has been a place of encounter as well, particularly this place where i am, which is next to an israeli base that were targeted at early this morning by the hazballah forces um rahib base which is an israeli base in which america tank of israel was targeted, later israels confessed that four of their um army members. were targeted in event, that's most possibly about the same attack that took place at early this morning, also there were

another attack later on in baldatramia also, there was another attack by the lebanese resistance forces on the on on on on israel as well, in retaliation also there were some clash clashes also fightings from the israeli side on different parts of... this southern line of lebanon that resulted in martidom of at least one member of aliadnan from the jabel from south lubnan was marted based on the statement that was issued by hizballah after that at afternoon we had also different clashes in the western part of the southern region of lebanon and almutala the were also some clashes at at the evening at the very beginning of the evening also and things are still in a very tense situation specifically after the massacre that took place yesterday

in the news uh that was spread in lebanon generally speaking last night had a chance of being also in front of us embassy uh you should be aware about the mean protesters and the anger of the people specifically on the trip of... biden to the region, lebanes were really angry, there is a sort of expectation of retaliation for what has taken place in gaza, in general, general lebanon, and as i said to you, southern lebanon is also very in a very critical situation, still no one knows what's going to take place, but throughout the recent days, day by day tensions have been on increase, i'm currently also still hearing the dr. flying in front on the sky of southern lebanon and no one knows but any time any new lash is possible at this region.

yeah uh taking a look at what has happened throughout the days uh before i uh turn to our guest what is your assessment? mean um it seems like it's just inching uh upwards there's an increase but very gradual uh over the past 12 days but still when you put them all together uh the their... going up notch each day, um, how do you, how do you analyze that? yeah, if you if you asking the stand of the lebanese resistant forces, the situation is really complicated, mean it's all related to different, mean parameters, but everyone knows that throughout these 12 days dozens of attacks has taken place against the uh zionist bases and different. of this line of southern lebanon take it from east to the west, different infiltrations also has takes place based on the reports that israeli source has, have have issued, so everyone as

i said to you, has a finger on the trigger, mean anytime, anything may take place, but specifically since yesterday and the massac took place in gaza in the hospital i that resulted in a great anger and there is also a sort of expectation from the lebanese resistance and all the resistance forces that region, frankly speaking, this expectation is among all, because the only possible force that may join the you know palestinian freedom fighters and palestinian forces is the access of resistance at the region, so this expectation is there, things were highly related to the even that took place today, the trip of joe biden to the region, the uh, the summit and the gathering of the you, islamic you foreign ministries that took place in jadda, so events are highly

interconnected each other, and we are also observing and waiting to see the possible upcomings in this region particular. all right, thank you for that. let me turn to you now, human rights activist in ramala, you talked about how the us is stationed in the region there, in order to um help israel, that could be one way of looking at it, but maybe the us is there to make sure that it planning out and executing, i should say, the plans that the us has given it, and and to make sure that it goes ahead with what its intentions are behind that ground invasion, and that is to uproot the palestinians, of which many military analysts have said that's going to result in the high number of palestinian casualties, doesn't the us role here maybe? that what i just said, well, that's what i said before, the us here is to make sure that the israeli army and security

are gonna do the job demanded by the us, the us wanted, of course the us wants to uphood the palestinian resistance, if if it was in their hands, they would the whole palestinian people so that they will remain in this area buleising this area as they are been doing for the past 75 years, so yes, the us here to make sure that the job is done, the job is to uproot the palestinian resistance, now the israelis are scared to death to go for a ground ground invasion, because they know that it's gonna cost them a lot of lives and this is very critical point for the israeli army and for the israelis in general, if they start to see more cuffings of their soldiers.

in gaza, that's when the the government, the israelis to lose lives in any war, look what happened to in lebanon for 18 years they been fight with resistance, and at the end they withdrew and with any agreement, they left, look at 2006 and look at other wars with the... resistance, did this make any changes in regard to the palestinian resistance? it's to the contrary. first, it advanced its capabilities of running the gorilla war as they are doing it, now and as we witnessed in al-aqsa flood operation, so the people in gaza as well, have learned not only during

the last seven 13 years of sie, but also during the occupation years that what they have is to stead fast, they have to sit pass in gaza until they return to their villages, the villages that they were kicked out in 1948, and for that reason the palestinians are sitfasting and are supporting the resistance, lots of people were on the media was trying to explain this, if the israelis and americans think that we going to leave our land, they are dreaming, we are not going to leave this land, and if we going to pay our souls in defending the land, we will do it, but we did it once in 1948, we were foud in 1990, 1948, we are not going to be foled again to leave our country, so um, that's the

situation. and the palestinians are sitfasting on the lands until they go back to their original villages which is 55 villages that the israelis wide from the earth, they want to go back to their villages, instead of having these settlers coming from all over the world and living on their lands while they are living in a 365 square. kilometers, two million people in 365 square kilometers, while the rest of the settlements, the zianist settlements surrounding ghaza are living their life as they are that as the land is theirs. you say that the palestinians are are not going to get fooled again, they want to go back to uh their villages as you were just talking, but that's not something

that israel and the us wants. at the same time uh they are pushing ahead with their plans and my question to you is uh what if israel was defeated what would happen then are we looking a us that would not let allow that to happen and therefore for the us to get in to action to make sure that uh palestinians are uprooted that gaza is taken away from them and that the palestinians and in essence finish off a job that israel perhaps uh is not capable of doing by itself? you know it's the israel went in the israeli army went into the ground and patient they gonna lose for sure they gna lose because they tried it before and that's why they wanted the americans to help them out, but perhaps they want the americans to solve the...