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tv   [untitled]    October 18, 2023 10:00pm-10:30pm IRST

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that's all. ليش قاعد هنا انت ليش قاعد هنا ايش بتعمل هذا محلكم ايش كنتم فاتحين فات مصاري محل سرافه ا طيب ايش قاعد بتعمل انت هنا انا قاعد هنا طيب بينفع يا عم تقعد هنا خطر عليك صح الله
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يعني هذا حال هذا الطفل الذي لا يريد مغادره منزلهم الذي قصف او عفوا يعني هذا المحل الذي من قصفه. it's day 12 of the operation allows flood and the israeli regime has continued its atrocities unabated. in the most recent attack that took place, hospital was targeted by israel, although it has denied the uh massacre that took place and has uh thwarted that responsibility and uh holding the islamic jihad uh to be the one that has done that with the us support was also indicated that israel is not a responsible, just one of
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the many lies that has been uh given by israel when it comes to palestine and the uh massacres that have taken place such as the previous wars. in this edition of the spotlight we will discuss uh the way that the international community has failed when it comes to the palestinian cause in this case the massacker by israelis and uh how a regional countries perhaps can unite in order to uh not have the un forum be a guide here to stop israel from doing what it's doing and perhaps uh even have their formation be the one that may prevent the continuation of this massacre. let me introduce our guest for this netfa freeman is a coordinating committee member at the black alliance for peace who joins us from washington dc. i'm sorry. professor of political science at bersaid university who joins us from romala and nepfah freeman. coordinating committee member of the black. science for peace who joins us
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from washington dc. welcome to you both uh so uh let me start with you and uh in terms of the way that uh we're we're looking at the developments in the region on the diplomatic side and the push for uh stopping the massacker that's taking place we've seen two things happen one the failure of the un where they were again not able to come up with any of type of solution of which the russian envoy slamed to the un for that and the same time uh we're seeing uh what for example has happened in jedda in saudi arabia with the oic ivan was in attendance other persian gulf countries of the arabs arab countries of the persian gulf were also a present and they were united in the way that they thought israel should be punished for this amongst other things where do you think the failure is coming on the un side of things and in terms of the regional countries how they've united to perhaps make something happen to help the palestinians. good evening for you
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and all your viewers and also your guests, your guest, well i think the um password for what you asked. for this question is usa, it's united states, they are pressurizing the united nations, especially in the security council, they were very influential in the issue of not to get the resolution coming through the russian russian suggestion, and also the same thing happened with the two events, not only the islamic countries who met in riad, but also in during the... the arab summit or or the foreign ministers of the arab summits which you the the statement came out was not only very weak and very bad, but also it was very much influenced by the united states, so what we are talking about
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now that the role of the united states in the whole war, this war in in in palestine, israel is a player, but the major player here is the united states. they are encouraging israel and they are the one who are trying also to push things out, the meetings that they had with the even the war cabinet, whether it was blinking or even biden today, it was so clear, and just now, after the meeting, netanyahu is saying that we are preparing for something like big and we will change the whole situation for our sake. okay, what can? of plans do they have, we don't know, i will remind you with something, in the year 2006 and during the war on lebanon, when the israeli felt that they are losing the battle to hizbollah, they tried to get out of the battle and to stop to see fire, but it was at that time kunderies, and
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she was still pushing them, no, go ahead, go ahead, don't stop, don't stop during olmart when he was the prime minister in israel at that time, so it was clear. that the american are the major player, the american from their point of view, i believe, now in the middle east, it's the major petel for them, and it's maybe more important than the ukraine issue, why it is important, because yeah, well hold to your thoughts, so let me let me get enough freeman in here, do you agree with that, is the us now the major player, i mean after all, we've never had uh according to our um records that that's out there a us president to come into i if i should call it a war zone, but in a zone that's obviously filled with this type of conflict that uh that exists and also then showing um its support for israel with the 2000 sailors with the two aircraft carriers, what are your thoughts, is the us the major player here? i agree wholeheartedly, i don't even know what i can
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add to with the your guests has said, i think the analysis is spot on and that what, well what i can add that um that this what's happening now and what the people palestinian people and people of gaza, all the people of gaza are being subjected to, is a shift in attention of the us, eu nato axes of domination, they their uh intent on waging war against the people of the global south around the world, um, the palestinian people have been subjected to this since for 75 years of since the establishment of this israeli zianist state, um, and right now, after this failed proxy war. in ukraine, they're turning their position to here, they didn't, i don't think they expected the at the attack that they got, the israeli state expected the attack they got, that's why they're putting all of they can all they can into the propaganda apparatus of this, getting people um to to to single out and
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sector of the palestinian uh um resistance to the occupation and the resistance to settle colonialism um and try to make pin it on them and and use that as the excuse for the continued genocide against the palestinian people, and so we should as in the black lies for peace, we stand with the people of gaza and all palestinian people under occupation and the racist apart settler state of israel, and that we will not be golded into a white supremist settle colonialist media uh that singles out uh for condemnation, any sector the palestinian resistance, that's not our place to do that, um, and so anyone who does so who is not a palestinian. is out of place and and and is uh siding casting the lot with with racist zionism. i like to ask you sad nem, based on your expertise, it it appears and and you said there was a war uh cabinet session that happens and of course while us
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is there with israel that they are going to do to partake in some kind of military action, which all uh fingers point to them moving um with towards that ground invasion. um, so so we... we know that that may be happening and it's on the high side. what about the regional countries? do you think that the us is expressing to them what it's going to do? and if so the us has plans in place, do regional countries? do you think have plans in place? except for the announcements that have been made by hisbul, maybe the resistance factions and iran. right, okay, well first of all, let me say that what they agreed with netanyahu on is a big plan for the region, it's you to clear gaza, totally clear gaza from the population and get them out of gaza, most probably to senai, and the statement came out today by cc, the president of egypt talking about that, it means that there is talks with the cc and egypt by the the americans, though he
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refused the idea that to move the people to the palestinian people to to sinai desert, but this is the plan since you know long time, not just you know recently, so we believe that the israel are going to continue in this plan in bombarding gaza and pushing the people out of ghaza in in order to that goal the... will get into the ground invasion? it was said today in the jerusalem post, one of the israeli most prominent newspapers in english in jerusalem, it says that the plan was on friday or saturday to do the and then the american postponed them till this meeting with biden today, so we believe this, yes, the ground invasion is coming and israel are going to come into gaza, but first they will have a week. of really very heavy bombardment together in order to push the people out to the south as far as they could
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get them to the south and in such case yes you are absolutely right, i think that will turn this battle into a regional war and definitely hizballah who had indicated many times that if the israeli entered ghaza in a ground invasion hizballah is not going to stay calm and the americans said don't worry about it for the israelis we will... take care of hizballah, we have we will take care i the americans promised the israelies that they will take care of hizballah meaning that they are going to take the battle there and they will fight hizballah with their air strikes on on on lebanon but at the same time we are talking about you know other regional parts we know that in yemen they said that if the americans start bombarding hizballah in such case definitely we are going to bombard all the american bases in the gulf states and the same did hizballah of iraq the iraq is
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also did the same and they today they sent some missiles to one of the american paces so we are talking about a really a regional war now how the the americans calculate that yes we are depending now on their arrogance about we can do that we are you know power we are you know and they want to show something in the middle east. and to rearrange the middle east once and for all from their point of view, to put israel as the master in the whole middle east, and this is the plan from their point of view, but would would that be successful or not? i don't think so, because you have also jordan, you have lebanon, you have people are not going you know to to be silent according to to when it comes to this concern, so i believe that would be at the battle of... the middle east all right uh so so mean uh guess there talks about the us
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plans along with israel but at the end says that that's not going to work out really because not work out but it's uh it's going to end up in a defeat. i'm sure the us uh has and israel have uh and their ministers of military affairs have uh painted all the different scenarios and if it ends up in defeat then why partake in it uh but then the question comes about that there's no turning back for israel on this matter, so is the only option left for a military one uh which will engage the region into a all-lot war? well, i think military option has been the only thing left to imperialism for quite some time now, they're proving that and that they, and i think their ultimate defeat is that the the rest of the world is not with them on this, i mean some i'm based in washington. dc and regular people are getting bombarded with all this very one-sided uh depiction of
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what's going on here, but any of us who pays attention to what's going on, the demonstrations even inside in washington dc and and within the united states, but also around the world, um that the everyone is opposed to what's going on here, as opposed to israel, as opposed to united states position uh on this and that they are for the palestinian the causes and resistance. so that in itself means that they are fighting an unwinnable situation, it's a reactionary situation, but i think it's also one of desperation that speaks to their inability. i mean they can't really accept um any anything that's not under their domination and then like the speaker said that leveling gods and and taking away all of every aspect of palestine and the west bank is and putting it under their control has been their agenda for a long time and they see this as opportunity to to do that um but at the in the end it really is not something that's uh that's
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accomplisheable because the rest of humanity is against it all right you talked about how uh the sad nemer that the us wants to along with israel um uproot the palestinians and uh the ground invasion is uh going to be the precursor to that and then eventually they want to move them to the south and then into egypt now we know that the egyptian president uh has rejected that idea he had he has come out and said that uh it was proposed by the us uh and said that the us told him that if you do that and accept the palestinians we're going to erase the debt that you have now um some are saying "well egypt has to say that, because uh, it has to show some kind of objection, because if it doesn't, then it's going to have the wrath of the people, the egyptians on it, because egypt is on the payroll just like jordan is of the us, so do you think that egypt is just giving lip service on that on that idea, but in essence it has to listen to the us, absolutely, yes
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it is a lip service, not more than that, but we know that by the end of the day the meeting which was cancelled yesterday, it's supposed to have jordan, egypt, the palestinian authority and the biden, what are they going to discuss, we know what biden wanted, and biden make it very clear, even after the bombardment of the baptist hospital in gaza, he went out and said, well it's not israel, it's you know the internal issue, palestinian bomb bombarded that, it's not israel, so what he is going to discuss with. egypt and jordan and the palestinian authority, definitely they were talking about you know eliminating the palestinian resistance in the gaza strip as well as in west bank, because there were also some negotiations between the israelis, jordanians, egyptians and the palestinians, to eliminate the palestinian resistance in the west bank, and the palestinian make it
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very clear that we can't get into the palestinian refugee camps especially in uh west bank, so it will be your role to do it. that was so clear and everybody knows it, so what they were talking about is to eliminate the palestinian resistance, not only in gaza, but also in the west bank, and it's so clear that that's the idea, biiden have it, and the cc in this case, after what happened last night, and all the demonstration that came out even in egypt and the critics to egypt that if you are sovereign country, how come you can't control one crossing on your own soil you know which is rafah crossing to to ghaza because the israeli prevented him of doing that so he wanted to show at least you know some dignity in this respect and that's i think it is yes as you described it is
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service all right that's a very good point that he makes the uh in terms of uh how egypt is not opening up the crossing and could say no to the us and could say no to israel and let uh aid in, but it's afraid of the uh obviously the the people who uh pay them, in particular the us. um, since you talked about the fact that there are protests in washington dc, well there's been protest all around the world, perhaps unprecedented, i shouldn't say perhaps, it is unprecedented, due to the large volumes of not only the number of incidents, but also the number of people who have come out uh do you think that makes a difference uh in in the bigger picture that they can perhaps um have some kind of sway when it comes to the politicians and by the way it also shows how wide uh the the the divide is when it comes to the people supporting palestine and the officials of their country respective countries who actually uh support israel not support but
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who have relationship with israel and want i think want to just make sure that the... viewers know that the the demonstrations around the world with washington dc is not the only place within the us that there's demonstrations new york all across in california all of chicago they've been having large demonstrations in support of the palestanian people and and that should be understood. i don't believe i i don't believe it will have much of sway on us policymakers um we're seeing all of them they're they're really just dinis you and the congress the senate and definitely the presidency, it's a prerequisite to be a zionist um and and be in the office here, except for you have some that some of these new progressive. politicians that have emerged, but they're very isolated and even them are equivocating on the issue and and having the they feel
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like there's some condemnation of the quote on quote both sides and that they're not actually getting they will not be able to speak on the root and fundamental nature of it which is settler colonialism and people forget the united states is the settler colonialist country it's not in the cloning state and that uh and so and it's been so normalized and the resistance the indigenous people and the confinement of them is is so sort of uh neutralized and controlled that people people don't realize it, but i think that what i the th answer to your question is that there's a lot of uh uh the media here downplays the demonstrations and the up i don't think and that the policy makers when we talk about countries i think we have to put it in sort of a class situation here so if we talk about egypt we're talking about the elite and given power not the masses of egyptian people, we're talking about the united states is the same way, and they've been able to confine uh and and wide out the
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the outcry of the people and and show that they don't, it doesn't matter what the people say, they're going to do whatever, they they've destroyed libya, they destroy invaded around, so you know they'll do whatever now, they're set on it and really feel like their disposition in the world is dependent on uh, spectrum dominance regardless of what the masses of the people say. all right, sonra, the scenario that you painted uh where you said the israel's going to move in with the ground invasion, you're going to have the us assist uh israel to make sure that it doesn't fall short or get defeated there. you know, at the same time you also said that you're going to have perhaps then the regional front open opening up such as hezbollah, which may pull in other countries into this. well, if we're looking at that scenario through the eyes of the us and israel, they're very well aware that those... are the risks that they want to take, even though many are saying that the us is doesn't have an appetite for a wide regional war, but if it happens and those um those scenarios uh play out, the
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regional countries, i'm sure on the one hand want to defend palestinians, but on the other hand don't want to have a war, so that has to pull in uh the us in terms of getting either they they're okay or not, do you think uh that the us is telling them we're going to do what we going to do, no matter what you think? yeah, maybe at the beginning the americans were evaluating the situation, and maybe they didn't want the things to get even bigger than what it is, and to to remain in gaza, otherwise they it was so clear that the american administration had sent so many messages to lebanon, particularly from under the table, if you like to threaten lebanon that if hizballah interf. we are going to interfere and all these kind of things, so i think at the beginning they wanted to stop that, but now it's quite clear after the visits of blincon to the region and to uh the
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to israel many times, and now the visit of biden, it's for the very first time ever that president of united states would come to visit a country when she when it is in war like what's going today, because netanya u declared this is a war, so how come is that, and it's also for the very first time ever that a president of united states is attending a meeting of the war cabinet of another country, you know, it's so clear that now the american are pushing towards that, now how what what would be the end, it's always the same, it's always the same, you know, you are talk about you know the thinking of power. thinking of arrogance, thinking of generals who could put map in front of them and say okay, we'll go from here, we'll go from there, we'll do this, we'll do that, but what is the aftermath?
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this is what usually they fail to read. we know very much in many wars, american did that they know the geography quite well, but they fail when it comes to history, so what happened like in iraq, they okay, they've occupied iraq, and what happened, it became now the opposite, totally the opposite. of what they wanted, so uh, i think that in so many areas, they have power, they could occupy, yes, we know that, but what's the aftermath, to be realistic, we are not saying that maybe the palestinian resistance in gaza is going to invade israel, this is absolutely out of the question, we know the power of israel versus the power of the palestinian resistance, but the defeat that the israeli have, the mentality of defeat that... hand and especially if hizballah interfered also in this battle, in such case we say that we would won this battle for the palestinian sake. thank you for that, we're going to end
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it there refresh out. time professor of political science at verset university and netfa freeman, thank you, coordinating committee member of the black alliance for peace. that brings us an end for this edition the spot life for me and the team. it's goodbye.
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من داخل مستشفى شهداء الاقصى نرصد لكم حاله الاجرام الاسرائيلي من داخل المستشفى العشرات الاطفال والنساء يدخلن الى المستشفى بفعل الغارات الاسرائيليه المستمره على المدنيين في المحافظه الوسطى يدخلنا بحالات خطيره جدا يدخلن المستشفى بحاله حرجه بفعل الاستعمال الاسرائيلي ل لاسلحه محرمهه دوليا تسبب حالات خطيره وفق اعلان وزاره الصحه الفلسطينيه مسبقا نحن نتحدث عن حرب اباده الان تمارس ضد المدنيين في هذه اللحظات وكما نشاهد هذه الحاله الان لطفل لطفل فلسطيني مصاب باصابه في وجهه بفعل الاستهداف وهذه الحاله لرجل مسن م ده في الاررائي يا
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اخوان كامل شويه كمان مشاهدينا الكرام هذه المشاهد من داخل مجمع ناصر الطبي. نحن نتحدث عن اجرام اسرائي مستمر ومتواصل بحق المدنيين ما يرفع عداد الشهداء الى اكثر من 1200 شهيد ويزيد عن ذلك ايضا حسب الاحصائات ال
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لوزاره الصحه الفلسطينيه نحن نتحدث عن حرب اباده جمعيه ضد المدنيين الان تمارس في غزه دون اي تحرك دولي او اممي يوازي حجم هذه الجريمه. headlines: genocide in gaza, hundreds more palestinians are killed after the israeli military targets the hospital on the besieged ghaza stret. the leader of iran's islamic revolution, iit khamenei deplores israel's genocide in gaza, saying the regime should be put on trial over his crimes. also the headlines.