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hello and welcome to press tv spotlight, i'm marsia hashimi, thanks so much for being with us. two weeks have passed since the israeli regime launched this genecidal attacks on the residence of the gaza strip. more than 4300 palestinians have been killed with 1,756 of them being children. and 976 of them women, as western regimes continue with their support of the apartite regime, increasing numbers of people in these countries are taking to the streets and saying, enough is enough, condemning the israeli regime and demanding an end to the violence. is the regime starting to lose control of the narrative, which is so important for it to always be portrayed as the victim. we'll be looking at all of this on this spotlight, and now you're... looking at one of those

demonstrations right there out of washington dc right now, coming to you live, as i said in the intro, people, more and more people from countries around the world, and also those countries where their governments actually supporting the israeli regime, people are starting to uh show uh that skism that divide between their perspectives and their governments, now we have... seen the united states of course uh come out very strongly in supporting the israeli regime throughout this onslot despite that over 4,000 palestinians have been killed um and and i think that the sheer numbers uh are actually what are bringing people out on the street and also the blanket support whether we're talking about washington or london or paris uh and other western countries that they're showing. uh for what is taking place

is unbelievable bloodshed that's taking place in the gaza strip and of course uh with the uh unbelievable hit on the hospital a few nights ago and also the one of the oldest churches in the world also being hit and people being killed, i think that uh really really people are saying enough is enough and we're going to be looking. at that on the spotlight. my first guest is sab shath, out of belfast and zakir, ahmad, out of johannesburg. thank you both for being...

with me on this program, well let's start off in belfast and sip, almost 4,400 palestinians in gaza have been killed in two weeks and the bombing simply continue. "how can this be allowed to continue to happen, and do you think that uh, over the years, the media has played a major role in first dehumanizing palestinians, which has opened the door, um, to basically uh, having a lot of these regimes look the other way and and also affecting many of the people, how do you see it? the reaction uh of the people on the streets of western europe and the united states." america uh can interpret one thing, that's these people don't believe their media and their politicians, today i was in in belfast in one huge rally which was called in a short notice yesterday and this week maybe

there was three massive demonstrations, hundreds of thousands of people, we seen even the drawn footage of london, it's hundreds of thousand. people in the streets of london, the same thing in manchester, the same thing in, so the the people are watching, and live genocide is unfolding in live tv, and they they heard what the israeli soldiers were saying on their own national tv, that they they they are not going there to fight hamas, they gonna they fight all the... that without doubt that means the soldiers received orders commit genocide in gaza and let's say under international law genocide requires two stages, one intent to destroy a national or ethnic or religious or racial group and the

second stage is the attempt of destruction of of that group and then and the international law without intent it means the action amount ethnical cleansing if it did then it's considered genocide and this is exactly we see in both actions happening in gaza and in contradiction to international law which prohibit collective punishment and the target of civilians which both are actually amounts to warm war crimes or crimes against the humanity few days ago the the president of the design entity uh which he is from the labor party, the the left said the gazan are not innocent civilians, it is an entire nation out there that is responsible, so he gives the green light, the head of the state

to to destroy the whole population, and we heard as you mentioned, the dehumanization of the palestinian by the by galand, which is initiating... it means initiating a full scale of genocide that the minute gallan described the israeli entity, defense minister, the palestinians as a human animal and then give the orders to cut water, electricity, fuel, this dehumanizing language, we remember was used in the second world war by hitler, when he described the the the the jews in europe and some others as rats. and then we know what happened after that, the same nazi language and the same nazi ideology they are using in gaza today, them who cry, they were the survivor, the grandsons or the sons of the survivors of the

holocous which them, right? right, zaka, you heard what saib said, it is mind boggling, um, when we think uh that the excuse for the creation of the... regime uh was the holocaust, and yet, what we see taking place in 2023, and these bombs, powerful bombs, phosphorus bombs, um, and just hitting all these residential areas and hospitals and ambulances and and not showing any kind of compassion at all, i mean we're just it's really mindbockling when we think in such a short period of time and we're looking at such a, a tragedy that these same people then are descendants of some of them can do what they're doing and justify what they're doing? i think it should not come as a surprise to

those who are fully aware of the palestinian situation and the reason why i say this is because we are acutely aware of the fact that israel is a colonial settler aparted state. and when you consider israel as a colonial colonial state, it obviously follows through with colonial ideology, from the 15th century, the spaniers had come up with this idea, particularly with african slaves that these are people without souls, the animal imagery was already created then, and it has been a fundamental part of colonialism, and then you see the same sort of image projecting itself, as my fellow panelist has referred to your gallant making the statement that we are dealing with human animals, but it wasn't just your gallant, it was check which referred to a post on her social media that refer to the palestinians as snakes, the same imagery comes out with danielle's

article in 2021 where he says, that if you fail to do mowing the lawn, meaning the periodic killing and brutalizing of palestinians, then if you fail to do so, weed will grow wild and snakes will begin to slither around in the bushes, this is the same type of thought that establishes the state of israel begin saying that the palestinians are animals walking in two legs, so when you dehumanize, it's part of... colonial ideology and it is for this specific reason that we see colonial powers coming to the aid of israel, the united states, the uk, italy, france and germany, these are colonial powers, it comes as no surprise to me, what comes is a surprise to me though, is that some of the arab nations have dragged their feet, they have just provided lip services to the palestinians when it should be the complete opposite, those that are providing tangible support and changing and equation on the ground are the those from the access of resistance islam, we seeing what's happening

innan, we seeing what's happening in syria, we see what's happening in yemen with ansaral line, we see what's happening in iraq, that is practical support for the palestinians, not me lip service and having meeting after meeting while innocent people are being slaughted a daily basis, we are just providing lip service to try and appeal our conscience, that needs to change okay, i'm going to get back to what you meant. but i also want to look at the west bank because uh saw the situation there is horrible also with more pre-don rates, more death, more destruction, at least 84 people have been killed there with over a thousand being arrested since october the 7th, i mean your thoughts on the reason the regime is more out of control than ever, and do you think that this will backfire on it? no. the regime is not out of control, the regime is acting according to a plan, and this plan, the

palestimian and arabic and islamic resistance but it on reverse, they were planning to have a zin entity, call it a greater israel from the nile to the ufrati, and we witnessed what the lebanese resistant hizbullah inflicted in them in the year 2000 and 2006 defeated. them and spell them out of south lebanon, the same thing the palestinian did in gaza in 2005, they expelled them out of gaza, but then they put a massive huge blocade and sie on gaza, nothing moves in and out of gaza, which is in its own is as a continuous war crime for the last over 17, 18 years, so there is a zionist, politicians, member of keness now calling for second nak referring to the mass of course displacement of palestinian 1948

with the help of the british empire and then establishing of israel after expelling hundreds of thousands of palestinians again to deliberately create another na which means the targets the west bank and it target gaza and the west bank they want to push the people to jordan okay this is what worries the jordanian and in gaza they want to push the people. to uh to egypt and this is what buckles the egyptians and worries them, the they the politicians openly now in the z entity talking about nakba, which is that mean amounting to genocide, not only in gaza as well in the west bank, and this is we can see their action in the nur shams refugee camp in tulkarim or in jeneen or trying to put the palestinian. in the west bank in in three bond stands and beseed them worse thank

gaza and then push their majority outside to jordan and let jordan deal with them and they grab the best of the lands of the west bank because today we have nearly 1 million settler in the west bank and the settlers in the west bank they are calling their government to create the settler's estate in the west bank today so this is coupled with happening in gaza, we can read this, the west is behind israel totally to try to push for the creating of greater israel, but they are mistaken, they are failing. even to protect themselves from gaza and the and the resistance within the west bank with all the costs incurred in gaz or in the west bank are formidable and it's moving to stop this project. let's talk about the possibility of the expansion of this war. i mean, you mentioned hezbullah, because we know that

some border areas in south lebanon, had been bom and hezbullah has engaged in precise. attacks on regime forces and their equipment uh we also saw ansar a law that fired rockets toward the regime which were intercepted and in iraq the the us anal assad base has been attack american forces also in syria have been attack your your analysis of all of this so what we are sitting with at the moment is equation that israel finds itself in and regardless of how you work this out, israel is doomed, it's the end, we have spoken about this before in your show, and i've always said that israel is about implode, it's it's its death and that there will be a regional war, however i believe this is not going to be a regional war, i miscalculated before, this is going to be a global war, what we are seeing now is global parties intervening on behalf of israel, there is an inevitability

that if israel continues with its massacres in the manner in fashion. that is currently going about, i think that we will start seeing different fronts opening up, the resistance has already sent signals that they are prepared to enter. we have seen senior commanders appearing along the border of lubdan, the deputy of the imam ali brigades, the commander of khatib say shuhada was spotted in, so these are indications that this is going to be a multifront war. israel is finding itself in a very. position at the moment, israel does not have an operational theory as to how to enter ghaza and commit their genocide, that is number one, number two is that israel is trying extremely hard to maintain all fronts because they cannot fight two proong war, they can fight an offensive war in gas and defensive war in the north, but they cannot manage two front

offence of war, and this is the crisis that israel finds itself in today, it is also the assessment of internal israeli generals and their discussions is that if hazballah enters the battle, it will obliterate israel, the us air power can only go so far, israel is not ready for ground war against, the united states does not have the assets to commit to a ground operation in lubnan, and then you have the other problem with with the eastern flank of syria, the golan and iraq as well as ansar, this only spells one picture and that is the complete demise of the zionist entity, that is why we are seeing them hold true to what they are, genocidal maniacs and that is why they are fighting for their very existence, the embarrassing situation that they had to call in the united states to bring not one, but two aircraft carriers and go to the united kingdom and bring in the

royal navy, the colonialists are fighting for the existence, the world will never go back to how it was before this war. uh this war is only beginning and i believe at the end of it we will see a world based on justice, there is no hope for the apartate state as we see it. well so how do you see it? because what uh zaker has described, i mean when we look at again, i want to look at these individual western countries that they are continuing of course to support uh the israeli regime. but there seemed to be a growing divide between those western regimes and the people on the ground, at the beginning of the show we looked live at what is happening right now in washington dc, we saw earlier today huge demonstration in london, and of course this is taking place all over the world, i want to look at the possibility, zaker talked about

the demise of that regime, but i want to talk about even beyond that and how these western regimes can be majorly affected by all of this. two days ago was a massive demonstration in city of belfast, hundreds of thousands were in it. addressed the demonstration myself and reminded the people who attended the demonstration with the lies and the fabrication of the united states of america and the british at the time tony blair and george bush used to sell to the media and to the united nation these fabrications for invading iraq about mass weapons of mass destruction and and the rest. and the cost of that of these lies, how many civilians been killed in nearly amounted to overa million, how many children died from

the sanctions in iraq, which is the the the the americans, foreign minister at the time, madeline obr, when they ask her abc news, is it worth it, half million a child to die from sanctions for what happens in iraq, she still insist, it's... live on tv disgusting and the people today we they witness as well the united states of america is using what we call atrocity propaganda especially about things proven wrong and proving total fabrication and lies like beheaded babies and stuff so and couple with that the people lost lost you know faith in their government in their political system you can see it in the streets, they don't believe, and they heard the united states of america, us state department in fact has worn the diplomats to stay away from phrases such deescalation and

seas fire, people asking for the war to stop, and the american administration ordering its own diplomat to stay away from, end the violence or blood shed and restoring calm, these phrases are forbidden in the united states of america. while as well with us and the collective was funding the genocide which they are party to it today and the people in the street they say that they see that from the taxpayers money and just few days ago netanyahu came in a press conference bragging with the the romanian prime minister who came to show support and to show up the zin entity in behalf of the... as well, he said they fight in gaza in behalf of the civilized world, and this man, the romanian prime minister didn't comment anything on that,

even when you have the chance to say something or to answer for a question, so they they they proved to their own people, they are complicit, but there is huge gap now in the streets between the politicians which they're going to pay for a price, because there is a group of uh activist who is led by some former mps in the uk taking the go some politicians from the british government to court for supporting ethnic cleansing or the idea of genocide, so these things are making the people today opening their eyes and but as my friend from south africa said they find themselves today they gna go for a global war. it seems, this is why they want to assure the state of israel. okay, i only have just one minute, zakar, your taken on this this pr uh transition, it seems, because

israel has always been very big, the regime and trying to sell itself with the as the most moral army, the only democratic entity in the region, um, but it seems to be losing that pr battle now, the importance of that and where do you see it going? i only have 30 seconds, israel has failed its pr campaign, they have claimed self-defense, impossible, a concentration camp guard does not have the right of self-defense against those that he holds in the concentration camp, number one, number two is that the global population can see the disconnect between the self-defense talk of israel and the revenge that it is taking out on the palestinian people, massacre after massacre dismandles israel's propaganda machine in front of the entire world and it is being exposed for what it is and apart settle colonial state and on that note appreciate both of you being with me on the spotlight so chef author and west asia

expert out of belfast and zakar ahmad mayot attorney activist and political analysts out of johannesburg and as always viewers we appreciate you being with us on another spotly signing out for myself and other group right here in tehran hope to see you right here next time. the ways that the israeli occupation is using to fight against education in palestine are not limited to the prevention of building and developing the educational institutions when the israeli occupation bombs empty ajaken places, this destroys the classrooms. despite the hard conditions and the crippling seige on gaza, i advise all male or female students who study at university to continue with studying, we

are nation that deserves to live and deep.

gaza's health ministry says at least 350 palestinians have been killed in the last 24 hours in israel strikes. it has also raised the death doll to nearly 4400 says over 70% of victims. are children, women and the elderly regime is cracking down against palestinians in the occupied west bank where troops have raided the news refugee camp near the city of tylk, at least 13 palestinians including five children were killed as a result, that's according to the palestinian health ministry.