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tv   Gaza Under Attack3  PRESSTV  October 29, 2023 12:02pm-12:29pm IRST

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the time the crew could be dealing with that emergency, there's a distance, you go back to your home, you go back to your hospital base, and this is somebody else's problem, yes, they're living in this world, they're trying to help, yes, and we need to remember that lot of these people are not trained in construction, they don't know what's dangerous and what's not, what chemicals through the rubble, the these are civilians, these are civil to have been kept in an open air prison and concentration camp for that. lives and they're rising their lives over and over again, something that recently spoke about is, palestinians are having to constantly prove their humanity by being exemplary models, you know, the the paramedic who saves the child, the doctor who you, of amputates this baby's leg, this this nurse, this teacher who's you know sharing her resources own pocket, no, no, um, everyday palestinians are heroes, because everyday palestinians are out there doing the jobs of
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the emergency services that they don't have access to because of the cut off of resources and aid and electricity and um organizations that would usually be people handling these affairs. you mentioned that you know the people here if attack happened in the west then people would do their job and they would change shifts, you would clock out, you're right, there's no shift here, this is this is the everyday, this is unrelenting 24 hours a day, another bit of video that you have to play for us, i think uh gives a gives a, it's satirical, but i understand what the tweeter here is saying, so what we can see is that you know these bombs are the same, they will have the same effect, the same in size, same in color, same in effect, but same destructive force, yes, absolutely, but we will see them differently based on where they come from, and who does this, and where they're going, and where the going, very well, the framing of this is very... very
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clear, it tells us that the media is the one who paints the picture or how good or bad, it it gives us the barometer in which we measure these countries moral compases by, it provides us a framework of how to view the destruction and genicide of each of these bombs and missiles, um, and you're an anti-semite for questioning this bomb, i you know we've seen the weaponization of anti-semitism here in the uk and across the world, i think that's incredibly. yes, it's it's a laugh, um, but there's truth underneath this one. yeah, because essentially the person who put that out on their page, you know they will be facing backlash for this, and i think it's so important for people to understand, even in expressing your own thoughts, the thought police, which is somehow uh supervised by a particular side of this conflict, will decide whether or not you've cross the line, whether or not you're protesting in just the right way, whether or not you've been just the right kind of either pro-palestinian voice.
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palestinian in this, which is absolutely ridiculous, uh, it begas belief uh, introduce your next piece, so piggy, piggy being off of uh that clip, um, yes, the media has huge say how the mainstream, the layman see this this uh attack on, this genocide, this massacre, but this next clip shows that the truth is being seen by the majority, yeah, i got a message, you said that the uk stands with israel, i think you find that we don't. why don't you go to ireland ask them if they support israel? why you go to scotland as them if they support? why don't you go mar to the uk? there's $300,000 right now? if they stand with israel? you do not represent? you know this this earthy bit of the east end about him, young man really does talk about the people, demonstrates the will of the people, the feeling of the people, he's not wrong. 300,000 were the only people who could be there that day, imagine the people working, imagine the the... doctors and the
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nurses, imagine the the mothers who had to look after their kids, 300,0 is the minimum amount of people that saw palestine, it's not, it's not the limit, it is the bare minimum of of the feeling in the uk, which some might are in the case of british prime minister, maybe 300,0 more people than voted for him, since none of us did, we didn't get the opportunity to put it to the test, oh yes, oh yes, all sad, so in in in this particular clip, i think there's also a recognition that there is between the establishment or so-called leaders and those who are like you and myself looking on and thinking, surely you can't think you're doing this in a name. there's a clip of rashi meeting netanyahu recently and uh he almost in for a kiss and it's very cringy to watch, but it just it really demonstrated to me the this very eager, very desperate need to of appease.... i'm a statement, i'm with you,
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look at me, yes, and and it's you know, that desperation comes from a place of weakness, he knows he has gone at the support of the the british people, and so he needs to really, really chum up. to to um to the occupying entity to make sure that they believe in this narrative that britain is with them because on the ground the evidence choose otherwise. and now to wrap things up, there is story, a split screen here that i think you're going to bring to our attention that really illustrates the disconnect in some cases with who is deserving of or sympathy or humanity and who is not. yes, please, let's watch the clip, he's along the border, and he's very, very sweet and he's shy, but he's very scared. because there's a lot of noises here, but they found him in a a small village near the gods border, and they said the family that had this puppy was killed during the attack on saturday morning, and just this puppy survived, we're not saying the puppy is deserving of affection, but when you just the post that with very
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real image of family being pulled out the rubble, we can't imagine how many made it, how many did not, and mainstream chooses to focus on this animal. 'i haven't seen fox news coverage, but i would, i if a betting woman, i would say that they probably haven't done the palestinians any justice in documenting the genocide massacre even using that language, you know, um, and and seeing this video with the with two narratives being being laid out clearly for everyone to see, it it reminds me um with this track that uh british rapper loki put out many years ago, but regarding the iraq war that just...' feels really really poining to mention in this message, so it's about that the track is about young boy called ahmad who we remember was um, he was the young child who was found laying on the beach of turkey after his boat capsised while he was fleeing from syria, and at the end of that particular track the the
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call harowing call um from a man in iraq who is saying, where is the humanity, the west talks that they talks about being the um the standard bears of humanity, they are the ones have all these institutions that protect human rights, where is the humanity in this situation? by god, your dogs and your animals are treated better than you would have us treated, your dogs are kept warm, your dogs are fed, your dogs are looked after there is health careare for them, but what about us, we are human beings, and this just shows you that that line of thinking is ageless, it's it's timeless, it's something that has always been and always will be this dehumanization of brown and black people. my guests have been patiently waiting with me uh as we discuss social media and my thanks as always to latifa abu how important is it ahmed the social media war here clearly it's important otherwise we wouldn't be seeing restrictions
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on algorithms we wouldn't be seeing banned accounts our own instagram account for example is restricted for no reason at all to be or for reason but oh yeah for a reason that isn't stated yeah so clear. um we are seeing fear uh of the power of social media and what is power of social media? well as people realize the transparent eyes that on mainstream news mainstream media, they're going to look for alternatives and social media allows an organic way for people to create - bubbles of likeminded people um and you know these b don't have to be political, it might be you have a community of people who love cats, love cooking, love this and that, and then one someone in that community brings this interest up, like i've been hearing this about. and it just spreads and so you know social media is a really powerful way uh of of people expressing their opinions, forming their opinions and so what we're seeing like in in real life on the streets in demonstrations or in petitions and letters to politicians, we're seeing people
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who are questioning the mainstream narrative and they're they're taking that from online into real life to try to influence real life politics so... it is really important for zionists, for those who are invested in the status quo to try and control that narrative as well, people need to be aware of that on social media, but are you finding that some of your usual places where you would get information or share information, if they've seen any restrictions during this genucidal move by israel? absolutely, mean there's a really effective page, it's called eye on palestine that was recently taken down that has millions of followers, and ultimately it's a page that shows the extent of the... savagery and the criminality of the occupation showing actual footage of the palestinians are being slaughted on mask. mean it's absolutely no price though that big tech is on steroids when you have in likes of unit e 200 soldiers from the idf whoose former soldiers they work in meta in facebook or for example you have the former director
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general of the israeli ministry of justice emmy palmore who's on facebook's overside board um these pages get taken down why because they undo decades of of the humanization of muslims and people of color that has been the feature of mainstream media for the longest time, ultimately to suit in foreign policy agenda, so for example you see that islamophobia was top of the mainstream media's priority list during the war of terror to garna mas consent to wage wars and mr. ultimately you have to dehumanize these muslims and these people of color to justify for example the expansion of terrorism aparats to stiple reals to create inferiority complex within them in the oppressed masses again you have to dehumanize them it's prerequisite so you all you almost undo all of that mass propaganda by showing them about how media establishment is working against the people of this country and to make people think in a very one-dimensional perspective such that they want to turn the country into a dictatorship if you dis the media you get cancelled, oh, i'm telling you, now this conflict has seen nations pick sides, we were
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discussing that earlier before, and in the west, we've heard overwhelmingly what the us and their allies have said, but what about perspective from further field? well, we caught up with ahmed kabala, whose ceo and founder of panafrican current affairs portal african dream, and i started by asking him his thoughts on why, though i stated in their positions, why did the us and its allies go to bat for israel to such an extent? well, if you understand imperialism, you understand that places like the united states need regional outposts to project its interests. now, someone would say, oh, well, they have saudi arabia, you know, they have qatar, but for from the united states perspectives, this is not reliable ally, saudi arabia has now joined bricks, it's recentlyd a peace agreement uh, with uh, with iran, qatar. is uh allegedly providing financial support to the palestinians, so these are not reliable
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allies as much as the so-called uh jewish state, and that's because the so-called jewish state needs the united states and united states needs it, so when the united states wants to launch war against the people of iraq, launch war against people of afghanistan, it knows whatever happens in that region it always have loyal servant serving interest and that's build back israel to the israel is a european central colonial state, united states at least we forget is a european set of colonial state, so there's ideological similarities, the united states built is modern state on the ethnic cleansing the native americans, israel is looking to replicate that by building and maintaining its apart system on the ethnic cleansing on the indigenous palestinians, so there's ideological differences similarities as well as strategic interest that means that the us, the uk, um, and other you, imperialist
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palace, canada, european set colonial places like australia will continue to back to back israel, regardless of how many hospitals it bombs, how many churches it bombs, schools it bombs, how it dispaces 1.5 million peak palestinians and counting how it's killed children who are still buried under rubble despite these countless violations of humanitarian law and international law, united states will always stand by, it's it's one quotee relly in the middle east. i then asked ahmed about the state of support for the palestinian cause on the african continent. yeah, we actually interviewed nasa mandela's great grand, and he said to me quite interesting, he said, when it came to the palestinian support for the anc and the arms. south africa, it wasn't just in rhetoric, it was actual real support, and now
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it's a palestinian's turn, they need real support, they don't need protes that israeli embassy, they don't need strong statements of condemnation, they need real support, and if the ef gets its way and israeli embassies kick out of south africa, that will be a good start, but it's not just south africa, we did a map. stream about recognition of the israeli regime and on the map overwhelmingly most countries recognize israel's right to exist and recognize and have full digmatic relations with israel and the countries that are muslim majority countries but even those are folding one by one sudan where my family came from uh the 2020 abrahamds uh the beginning of recognition of israel and leading towards diplomatic relations, morocco now diplomatic relations with israel, and and
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the concern is the the countries that tool might fold one by one due to pressure from the united states, quickly if i have time, the there was a trade agreement signed between kenya and united states, between ururo kenyata, administration and donald trump's administration, and within that that trade agreement. there's a stipulation that says kenya cannot get involved with any sort of boycot diversments or sanctions against and cannot cannot participate in anti-israeli sentiment so will that show? show to us is that the united states is using israel as a condition for financial aid, for financial trade agreements, so with that happening, it means that the picture for palestinian solidarity within african continent, looks very bleak at the moment, bleak indeed, fahim muhammad is back with her second helping of
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palestine in the news. fahema, what have you found for us? well, we're going to have the journalist. yara who lost 30 members of her family and also explaining um how the ground, even if there's a warning, where do people go, and more and more families are being lost by the minute, and um, it's really you, hocking to see here, but this is the reality the ground, and also journalists that are losing their families, as well as um there was the al-jasera journalist who lost several family members to the israeli air strike and he he lost his wife, his son and daughter while they were shel. in what israel designated as a safe area? all right, well let's start with the first abc video and just see what she had to say for hers. but i want to bring in yara aid, a palestinian journalist uh, we're going to talk about more on the situation now in gaza. yara, thank you uh for being with us, we're watching these images, endless bombardments, some aid going in, not enough, what are you hearing? well, i
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have so much to say, i don't know where to start but i can start with um what happened just around 10 minutes ago um i was trying to call my mother a cellular connection and she was screaming and she said they bombed the house next to us and um it was you know it was a warning rocket you know as israel likes to call it and um my grandma she my mother is staying with my grandma and my grandma is very old she's very sick and she can barely walk and they literally couldn't evacuate they literally couldn't ' leave the house for more than um, i don't know how long, and she was crying, terrified, because any point, even if they leave the house, where are they going to go to? i personally as a palestinian journalist myself, not only lost my best friend was a journalist, my boss and mentor is also a palestinian journalist and the founder of the media organization i was working at, but i also lost 30 members of immediate family, uncles, aunts, the my
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cousins, their children, you know, 17 of those 30 are children, what we're seeing now, there's more. having to to speak with international colleagues as this is taking place when the worst moment of your life, no time to grieve, and you could see from her face, i wouldn't want to project my own thoughts here, but there was just the recognition and a resignation, there was just a sense of anything else, what, what, what else is coming, yeah, and since the september, um, sorry, october the 10th, we've also seen 23 journalists and being killed, so um, it's really shocking these people are there with their vests, they're reporting and their police being designated to sort of safe areas, mentioned before, but unfortunately even their families, whether or not it's because of the reports they are reporting and you putting pressure on them, but they are still standing up strong straight after hearing of these atrocities and still reporting. let's have look at what happened to the chief, the bureau chief of the
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al-jazera network in gaza. i would also like to point out very clearly there was a comment, the top comment under that was that it was hamas who was doing this, and then just have look at the uh video after this, i think it might be a screenshot, but of the fightback that might be happening, yeah, this is another. so newsroom where we have people from the united states you know commenting out how the mainstream media again and the white house are portrayings but they themselves see it for what it really is, so there is definitely a uh push regardless of what's been said and they even sort of situated that there were about 2000 um sort of protes you know contributing to uh sort of
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pro palestine and taking parts so again uh people are waking up and no matter how much you know uh stories are being put out there um we are seeing people fighting back whether it's in their smallcasts or youtube channels and uh we would have been unthinkable years before actually and we're just going to end with uh this screenshot there's an actual video that goes with it but we didn't show it today cuz i think you get the general idea explain yes um sadly these this is a recognition of the names of the palestinians the men women and children and you can see the numbers there which is unbelievable. scrolling down to show um sort of like memory and recognition for all the lives that have been lost so far and this is within the context of the us president joe biden may that massistrate, we wouldn't trust the palestinians to tell us the numbers, we don't trust the data that's coming out of gaza, as if to completely delegitimize, to
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dehhumanize, it's not bad enough that you've killed us, you want to kill the memory of us, yes, erase the fact that we ever existed, because if 7,000 souls have gone, and you're saying that didn't happen, where's the tribute to their lives, fahimma, thank you, i will see you next time, oh my... there some some sometimes it's hard to do shows like this, well guess ahmed and batul are still with me and batul there was so much to unpick in what we were talking about there, but what i just wanted to flag up with you particularly is how you see some of this misinformation, especially state sponsored, we mentioned to the guest earlier that the us president stood up on the white house lawn and casually he skeptical about the numbers of of the coming out of gaza. absolutely, look, it goes back to the crucial and central point and that is that mass media are are basically echo chambers of the establishment of westen establishment and really it was the western establishment that founded entity in
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1948 servers that advanced military colonial base at the heart of the strategic importance um and there is a collusion of of interests over here right and i think at one point even president there was no zist entity we would go out of our way to create zist entity um as to serve our interest. so ultimately yes, what mass media is going to do, even by the way, i would argue that we are kind of getting a crossroads where the zinist entity is now in need of protection rather than protecting western interests, i would argue that right now the zinst entity has become so strategically weak that the functional role for which it has been created for is being lost and we're at a pace right now because it's it's a colonial outpost that's 7.5 decades old right with time you have evolution of developments of interests policies. change right, but ultimately this is such an old colonial outpost, the basis of relations have changed with time, ultimately that time has come for the west to deal with real facts on the ground, to apologize, to
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atone for its sins, to abandon its arrogance, but what we see with the mass media is really a continuation and an extension of those policies and ultimately, so that's why sometimes you might see a lag between the two, between mass media and the real policies and the interests of the establishment, ultimately america today decides that it wants to recognize the power balance on the ground, if america decides that it wants to deal with the real effective forces on the grounds in west asia, we're talking about the forces from nations in the region that have formed that do not accept inpose hegemonic humiliation, it's the policy of hegemony that led to those forces to monopolize and to cohease in the first place, that the occupying entity will lose its functional role, and i would argue we're actually getting to point where the design entity is so weak that it's losing it functional role, but make no mistake, the media will continue paroting the narrative in support of the... entity because it was created as a colonial outpost and it still serves western interests to some extent functioning as a reserve force this area of strategic importance in case the
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west wants to enter into further confrontations with russia with iran etc. yeah all right the tool just very quickly and 30 seconds here uh assess f is important now because uh because if a cs now fire is not given now then it never will be more lives will be lost more excuses will be made and and uh we're going to be seeing uh lot more deaths, which which we need to stop right now, and with those comments we've come to the end of our show, thank you so much to my guests ah ali and all of you who contributed to this very special broadcast and thank you for watching and keeping palestine gaza close to your heart, until next time, goodbye.
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the headlines israel's pounding gaza strip from the air sea and round with resistance forces replying the invading tanks says that people in are facing the genocide as the death of miserally attacks rises past 800. and worldwide rallies are underway solidarity with the people of gaza and condemnation of israel
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