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25 days pas israel's ethnic cleansing and unconventional war on palestinians in gaza. the collective punishment has claimed the life of more than 8500 people on gaza, the majority of the women children. now most countries endorsed a un resolution to of seasfire so humanitarian aid could reach to people in the totally beligered strip of land, yet no truce has been established yet. all locations in every living thing are considered as targets for his. forces and western leaders whose media is stretching the facts are turning it fear to the voices of opposition made by their own people. welcome to the spotlight. i'm your host. let me introduce our guests in this episode. patrick hen is joining us from los angeles. also with this is shabir political commentator in chicago. now gentlemen, uh, welcome to the

show, let me start uh with uh patrick, first i want to ask you, because the whole world is a talking about it, the un has been pushing uh for this since almost day one, but this is being vetoed or rejected, you know, and that's truth that is urging to lean it, so tell me on what ground is washington refusing a ceasefire to be established in gaza? very good question and the answer is uh quite simply uh this is on political grounds, so it's the in terms of at the un security council level, it's it's the language, it's the language in the drag text, the us has particular problem because they want to insert a political designations, ie, the condemnation of hamas, as a terrorist group, etc. this is also very important, and also to insert the concept of israel has a right to defend itself, now these two concepts are usually. problematic and if you listen to uh

the russian uh deputy, to the permanent representative of the russian federation, un, he'll say and has said uh publicly as well, that they russia does support palestine's right to defend itself, and they do recognize israel as the occupier as does multiple un resolutions, so what the us is trying to do is try to neutralize or to try to offset uh international law by putting in this caviot israel has a right to... defend itself, when in fact they actually don't, according to the un charter, israel kind of forgets that under un article 51, merely because this palestine is not a state actor uh, and so and this is occupied territories, palestinians are being occupied, therefore, according to subsequent un resolution, they have the to defends even by armed struggle in a liberation struggle, mountain armed resistance, so this is the problem is the us wants to... interpret the

international law completely different than the rest of the world and by doing so giving israelch to uh have a war on terror where they can basically any action uh to do anything they want outside of the bounds of normal behavior in the international system. okay, shabir is saying that the us is trying to make have its own interpretation of do we need any interpretation there is clear, mean this is an occupiing force and israel is just playing victim isn't it? they're under occupation, israel is heading and nothing, actually in terms of it's obligations under geneva conventions, other conventions, and this, i don't think we can even call this a war, because the are armed forces fighting there, it's not people being targeted, just hundreds of them perish again, another attack, this jabali refugee cam, the whole neighborhood perished, yeah, exactly, i mean, i don't really think you can call it a war when one side is annihilating an entire people, and the other side is simply trying to resist. about this asymmetric warfare

where they targeting children, they're targeting hospitals, they're targeting schools, meanwhile, my colleague here, but it you know the palestinian resistance, they may be have legal right to exist. now with the united states, as you know many of um, it bends international rules based order as itself, in order to political goals and i'm sure a lot of people are aware, the z has huge influence on the american political system millions and millions of dollars uh sometimes pergressional representative make sure that everybody follows suit what the z political line is, and so you have this bad actor of the united states and the united states security council, which is basically looking to carry the zin in this line in the in the united nations, without israel itself

act being a part of the un security, so you have, you have a direct representative of the zionist entity in the un security council, so if you're looking for uh a... some sort of agreement come from the us security is not going to come without the united states getting in the way of inserting its own language on the design is entity and uh patrick apart from uh this war and that buse you know hamas fighters palestinan fight has just proved that this is only the facade you know this invincible military and that kind of thing you know it's 25 days pass and see what's been going on and uh now we have uh isn't israel losing both in the war, at least it's lost this so-called grander uh of that military arm to the teeth that we're not able to even stop hamas, from retaliating, and that came not out of vacuum, as a un secretary general rightly, it's years and years and years of living under occupation,

rights violations, land confiscation, land grab and all that, so isn't israel actually losing both in the war and also losing you, it's a pr war too, the hearts, minds of the people around the world. yeah, it's important, you brought up that point and which was reiterated by un secretary general uh gutierres, which is that the action by palestinian resistance forces on october was retaliation, retaliation to so many different uh violations and transgressions uh by israel that previous to that point and history just didn't begin on october 7th, although that's how the western media and western governments and of course tel aviv want to frame it at, they want to frame it as a terror. terrorist attack unprovoked etc. um and therefore they justifies all of the actions that they're uh going to take after that, so this is this is an important point of how the conversation is framed, and you're right to also point out that the air of invincibility of the idf is completely under question, as is the

omnipotence of their intelligence apparatus, which is supposedly legendary, so they failed on those fronts, but here's the biggest front that they will have failed at by the time it's all said and done, these power complex. of israel internationally depends on the country being portrayed as victim nation and so they've been able to get benefit of the doubt from so many people in the international system by virtue this this very powerful soft power mechanism that they wield okay now that is basically gone it's it's finished what the world has seen they cannot unsee so israel's uh you know the air of victimization that they're able to use to kind of justify the things that they do uh the violations of international law in the name of their own security, this is all now coming into question, if not completely evirated over the last three weeks, so that will in the end that will be perhaps their biggest loss when this is over, they may gain some military advantage in the coming days, weeks, but globally they will have lost

really the one thing that gave them last air of legitimacy that they really had in the international community, which is that they were somehow the victim nation, right? and of course uh things have been happening on the ground and and we have some corporate media especially in the west trying to stretch the facts and reflected them in a different way, trying to denise palestinian fighters as those behead, for example captive says, which is actually not true, and there is no proof for that, and and you just and the witness was this lady was released few days ago and she said that the israel lady, said she was really like guest and very human, and also hamas leaders are stressing that this is what even if hamas wants that islam doesn't allow that you know... just like nuclear weapons that according to islam, iran, other countries, muslim states cannot have nuclear weapons and this is what people in the west, leaders in the west, not people, leaders in the west do not simply understand this, so uh, we have this corporate media that's trying their job trying to make a distinction between hamas and other palestinians and they

want to try their best to simply put all blame in this carnage that's happening in gaza on hamas rather than uh zine forces and they simply tell them that they have the right to self what self defense, who's getting killed here? yeah, exactly, as my colleague here put it, there is uh, there's something to be said about the soft power that israel holds, especially with this big complex, so right now the corporate media in the west is going to... hyperfocus on what we call atrocity propaganda, which is to play on the emotions of people uh and and show them these visuals, give them these stories uh that just sound too insane to be true because they are too insane to be true uh they're rolling with all these different stories that i'm not going to repeat uh for them, but all they're trying to do is demonize us, well at the same time trying to equiit hamas with palestinians and this is kind of going to be slowburn towards kind of just demonizing palestinians as a whole is going to be in a temp to sanitize the vicious bombing campaigns carried out by the zionist occupation in order to kind of look at these

essentially these war crimes, they are war crimes is what we're seeing here, if you if you wipe off 400 people within a within a second without decerning if there's civilians or not, that is a war crime, so they're trying to use atrocity propaganda in order to sanitize their war crunch, meanwile what we actually see on the ground is quite different, you have israeli commanders actually admitting that it's it's it's a lot tougher than they expected, you're seeing heavy. resistance from the palestinian resist every time they try to enter you gaza the they they are actually admitting that it's they're suffering heavy losses uh we're also seeing from resistance via you know tanks being destroyed on on design side uh soldiers being leted so forth so essentially the media just on the side just wants to keep the cameras rolling on whatever atrocity propagate the israelis are coming up with and sometimes they've even like these without backing it up with pictures and when they do back it up with pictures we've seen they've artificially generated these pictures or they heavily edited them or they you taken them out of complete context, so what, so what the

western media is trying to do is create man out of palestinian, while they commit all the atrocities on the palestinian people. now patrick, let's talk about telaviv's client for doing all this, i mean, are they going to exterminate, is this ethnic cleansing, which it seems to be, it's not a conventional war, and then what's next? they want to push the palestinians out, they want to make 10 cities as some people. saying on seni, part of jordan? yeah, i think, i think this has been uh said publicly by number of israeli for either indirectly. look at the document that was leaked this week, which uh outline just that, that type of a proposal, and looks like that was done in consultation, at least it appears to be with uh some members of the us government, so that they must be aware of this. this is effectively looking at is ethnic cleansing, but with the threat of force, in other words, if you don't cate then you will die, uh ethnic cleansing uh which is uh backed by genocide. patrick, they are relating and they're dying. they told them to

be to go to the southern parts and they're boming bombarding the southern part and even the more larger number of people concentrating. and they're bombing the crossing, so not allow aid to come in, so like on every single level, this is like an aggregous violation of just any kind of convention. geneva forth convention, any sort of human rights agreements, any international institutions, these this is the most. you could possibly rack up in the shortest space of time and they've waited three weeks with their you know ground offensive, but the reason they've done that so they can conduct an arms length bombing campaign where they don't have to you put any of theirs at risk, and it's been overwellmingly civilian uh casualties, deaths, majority of those or a large portion of those women and children and openly targeting hospitals, un shelters, un schools, churches, mosks, it's endless. mean the the rapacious uh uh campaign here is like nothing people have ever seen play out on

live television and it's really shocking, but what's more shocking is the lack of resolution from western countries to call for a ceasfire, it's they're saying, uh, it's not a good time, this is what israel's position is, no cease fire now, now now is the time for war, says benjamin netanyahu, so how when has this ever been a policy of the united states to avoid seasfires, prevent ceasefires when you have massive war crimes occurring? this is really going to be the death now, not just of what we're seeing, the the poor victims of this conflict, but of international institutions, also the credibility of the united states as an honest broker in the international system, this will be the last nail in their coffen by the end of this, this is absolutely a horrible situation for so many people exactly, and uh shabir, what can be done, i mean when you have this designist entity that has no regard for any. any norms, nothing, actually, so is it possible through, i mediation, a third

party, an international organizations, somebody from mars, i don't, what other ways, how can you simply sit a negotiating table with such a regime that, complies with nothing, as disregard for no conventions, no international law, no humanitarian law, all kinds of crimes are being committed, how could you actually - be there and talk to them and try to address your differences and come to an agreement, and even if you come to an agreement in whatever way, how can you be rest assured that they will comply with that? think you kind of answered it, they won't comply with it, this is a regime that has been politically backed by imperialist colonial hours sinception, and at every time where you know any any country, any person tries to hold it accountable, they're met with smear campaigns, they're demonize uh the country, like the imperial powers for example, like united states will always back it up politically saying israel has the right

defend itself, well the defending itself look like bombing innocent kids, like bombing you know un buildings like bombing, the the aljaz office for example, of course not, this is a regime that you can't sit with, and if you sit down with them, then you by default in my opinion have blood on hands, there's no negotiating with this, the only way the regime is going to learn is through force, it's the same kind of v that it proved that enforces on other people, this is an occupation regime, the only way these occupation regimes have to be seen, these apart regimes that have dealt with in the past, it's through national liberation, it will be through the national liberation of the palestinian people that this question can find only be settled because this is that will not sit you at the table, they do sit sit with you at table and they're going to ask you to either follow line or or be destroyed and and that's that and so the only way to deal with this is to supporting the resistance supporting the resistance efforts the palestinian people of course and i believe thoroughly with my heart and with just all the evidence provided before me that

the only way that this regime will see justice is through the rifle of a palestinian resistance. now patrick. as you know, what's going on in gaza these days, nothing less than genocide, it's even more, all kinds of crimes are being perpetrator, crimes against humanity, war crimes, so out accountability, what's become of justice? when, how could justice be served? well, look, uh, i'm i'm going to sort of deliver the bad news, which is that i don't think there's going to be any justice served through any national institutions uh. the icc will have very big file which they're actively pursuing. karim khahan said as much publicly uh that includes all officials, military, political, everybody within the israeli state, and also uh who might be held accountable in their own countries, which is saying is any western leaders that are backing or providing material support to these war crimes once they are determined to be war crimes, which

looks like there's plenty of evidence for that regard, so they can then be uh arrested, warrants can be issued in their country. not just israelly visiting those countries as we've seen before with august pinache from chile, ariel sharon and tippni litvi, the uh official from israel who cannot go to certain countries like i believe the uk as well because of these charges, so countries can do this locally, but the real biggest change can really only come, i think politically, and that is of course there's the militarily, who knows how and when this could be settled and at what cost to the to the people in this area, the region and the world. world, but boycott sanctions from countries, from governmentts against israel could be very effective, and to isolate israelly and economically and politically from much of the world, i think it would send very strong message that what the the way this regime is acting is completely unacceptable, barbaric, it's medievil on so many different levels and it's being completely backed up by us power

and us money, that would also send a strong message to the united states as well, the us does this routine to demonize and countries like russia, syria, uh, iran, for instance, korea, but maybe it's time that the world considers turning the tables on this to show where their moral center is, where their moral and ethical center of gravity is, and i think israel is provide going to provide that uh pretext, and you're going to see bds, i think return with a real vigur uh right now, exactly, do you also see i toi patrick, buse what israel is doing in this genocide that's going on, the more it goes on, the you know the more. awaken people around the world will be and the more they will be pushing their governments to look at the the facts and what's happening not to turn a ear to the cris you the voice of opposition and protest against these really brutalities against the palestinians and uh do you see light at the end of the tunnel for palestinians? i absolutely do see light at the end of the tunnel for palestinians i agree with my

solution to an extent where no we can definitely use the kind of turn the tools on the des occupation um through refusing to do refusing to deal with the occupation kind of like what happened in south africa, but i do firmly believe that it will be up to the national uh resistance of the palestinians in order to truly get justice to truly reach that light at the end of the time. okay, thank you so much for contribution. patrick hannington, geopolitical analyst in los angeles, shabir political commentary in chicago, and thank you for watching this episode of the spotlight with me, host uh, i'll see you next time.

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at least 200 palestinians are killed in an israeli air rate on javalia refugee. as the regime continues its atrocities in gaza for 25th day. yemen armed forces say that they have fired drones and ballistic missiles at israel, several operations warning more attacks if the honestly gaza goes on. and iran once again warns the us and israel against further continuation of atrocities on palestinians saying the situation in the region might quickly get out of control.