tv SPOTLIGHT GAZA UNDER ATTACK PRESSTV November 1, 2023 6:02am-6:31am IRST
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25 days passed since israel's ethnic cleansing and unconventional war on palestinians in gaza. the collective punishment has claimed the lives of more than 8500 people in gaza, the majority of them a women and children. now most countries endorsed a un resolution to seasfire so humanitarian aid could reach the people in the totally beligered strip of land. yet no
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truce has been established yet, now all locations in every living thing are considered as targets for israely forces and western leaders whose media is stretching the facts are turning deaf ear to the voices of opposition made by their own people. welcome to the spotlight. i'm your host nashafi. let me introduce our guests in this episode. patrick henningson, geopolitical analyst. is joining us from los angeles, also with this is shabir risvy, political commentator in chicago. now gentlemen, uh, welcome to the show, let me start uh with uh patrick, first question i want to ask you because the whole a world is talking about it, the un has been pushing uh for this. since almost day one,
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but this is being vetoed or rejected, you know, and that's truth that is urging and lean it, so tell me on what ground is washington refusing a ceasefire to be established in gaza? very good question, and the answer is uh quite simply, this is on political grounds, so it's the in terms of at the un security council level, it's it's the language, it's the language in the drag text, the us has particular problems because they want to insert political designations, ie, the condemnation of hamas, as a terrorist group, etc., this is also very important, and also to insert the concept of israel has a right to defend itself, now these two concepts are usually problematic, and if you listen to uh the russian deputy to the permanent representative of the russian federation, un, he'll say and has said publicly as well, that they russia does
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support a palestine's right to defend itself, and they do recognize israel as the occupier as does multiple un resolutions, so what the us is trying to do is to try to neutralize or to try to offset uh international law, by of putting in this caviot, israel has a right to defend itself, when in fact they actually don't, according to the un charter, they israel kind of forfits that uh under un article 51 uh merely because this isn't palestine's not a quote state actor uh and so and the is occupied territories palestinians are being occupied therefore according to subsequent un resolutions they have the right to defend themselves even by armed struggle in a liberation struggle to a mountain armed resistance so this is the problem is the us wants to interpret the international law completely differently than the rest of the of world and and by doing so giving israelch to
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uh have a war on terror where they can basically greenlight any action uh to do anything they want outside of the balance of normal behavior in the international system. okay shabir is patrick saying that us is trying to uh make have its own interpretation of do we need any interpretation it's there is clear mean this is an occupy force and israel is just playing victim isn't it? they are under occupation israel is uh peeting and nothing, actually in terms of it's obligations under geneva conventions, other conventions, and this, i don't think we can even call this a war, because the are armed forces fighting each other, it's not people being targeted, just hundreds of them perished again in another attack on this jabal refugee camp, the whole neighborhood perished, yeah exactly, i mean i don't really think you can call it a war when one side is annihilating an entire people on the... other
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sides is simply trying to resist for its basic human rights, for its very rights to exist, and uh, the the political entity known as israel, the zionist entity as i call it, has historically played victim while caring about carrying about this asymmetric warfare where they're targeting children, they're targeting hospitals, they're targeting schools, meanwhile as my colleague here put it, you know, the palestinian resistance, whoever they may be have legal right to exist. now with the united states, as you know, many of our viewers know, um, it bends the international rules based order as it calls it itself, in order to fit its own political goals. and um, as i'm sure a lot of people are aware, the zianist loby has huge influence on the american political system, spends millions and millions of dollars, sometimes per congressional representative to make sure that everybody follows suit with what the zionist political lines, and so you
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have this bad actor of the united states and the united states security council, which is basically looking to carry the zionist line in the in the united nations, without israel itself actually being a part of the un security council so you have you you have a direct representative of the zionist entity in the un security council so if you're looking for some sort of seast fly agreement come from the un security council is not going to come without the united states getting in the way of it inserting its own language on behest the science entity and uh patrick apart from uh this war mean that buse you know humans fighters palestinian fighters proved that this is only the facade, you know, this invincible military and that kind of thing, it's 25 days pass and see what's been going on, and uh, now we have uh, isn't israel losing both in the war, at least it's
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lost this so-called grander uh of that military arm to the teeth that we're not able to even uh stop hamas, from retaliating, and that came not out of vacuum as a... secretary general guutares said rightly, it's years and years and years of living under occupation, the rights violations, land confiscation, land grab and all that, so isn't israel actually losing both in the war and also losing you, it's a pr war too, the hearts and minds of the people around the world. yeah, it's important, you brought up that point and which was reiterated by un secretary general guutierrez, which is that uh the action uh by uh palestinian resistance. since forces on october 7th was a retaliation, retaliation to so many different uh violations and transgressions uh by israel that previous to that point and history just didn't begin on october 7th, although that's how the western media and western governments and of course
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tel avi want to frame it as you want to frame it as a heanous terrorist attack unprovoked etc. um and therefore they justifies all of the actions that they're uh going to take um after that, so this is this is an important point of how the conversation is framed, and you're right to also point out that the air of invincibility of the idf is completely under question, as is the omnipotence of their intelligence apparatus, which is supposedly legendary, so they failed on those fronts, but here's the biggest front that they will have failed at by the time it's all said and done, the soft power complex of israel internationally depends on the country being. trade is victim nation and so they've been able to get the benefit of the doubt from so many people in the international system by virtue this this very powerful soft power mechanism that they wield okay now that is basically gone it's it's finished what the world has seen they cannot unsee so israel's
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uh you know the air of victimization that they're able to use to kind of you know justify the things that they do uh the violations of international law in the name their own security. this is all now coming into question if not completely avisserated over the last three weeks, so that in the end that will be perhaps their biggest loss uh when this is over, they may gain some military uh advantage in the coming days or weeks, but globally they will have lost really the one thing that gave them the last air of legitimacy that they really had in the international community, which is that they were somehow victim nation, right? and shabira. of course uh things have been happening on the ground and uh we have some corporate media especially in the west trying to stretch the facts you know and reflected them in a different way to trying to demonize palestinian fighters as those who behead for example israeli captives says which is
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actually uh not true and there is no proof for that and uh and you just and the witness was this lady who was released a few days ago and she said that the israel lady that said she was treated just like guest in a very human way. and also hamas leaders stressing that this is what even if hamas wants that islam doesn't allow that just like nuclear weapons that according to islam iran other countries muslims says cannot have nuclear weapons and this is what people in the west, leaders in the west, not people, leaders in the west do not simply understand this, so uh, als we have this corporate media that's trying their job trying to make a distinction between hamas and other palestinians and they want to try their best to simply put all the blame in this carnage that's happening in gaza on hamas rather than uh zionist forces and they simply tell them that they have the right to self-defense. what self-defense? who's getting killed here? yeah, exactly, as my colleague here put it, there is uh, there's something to be said about the soft
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power that israel holds, especially with this victim, so right now the corporate media in the west is going to hyperfocus on what we call atrocity propaganda, which is to play on the emotions of people uh and and show them these visuals or give them these stories uh that just sound too insane to be true because they are too insane to be true uh they're rolling with all these different stories that i'm not going to repeat uh for them, but all they're trying to do is demon hamas, well at the same time trying to equiit hamas with palestinians and this is kind of going to be slowburn towards kind of you know just demonizing palestinians as a whole is going to be attempt to sanitize the vicious bombing campaigns carried out by the zionist occupation in order to kind of look at these essentially these war crimes they are war crimes what we're seeing here if you if you wipe out 400 people within a within a second without descerning if there's civilians or not, that is a war crime, so they're trying to use this, this atrocity propaganda in
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order to sanitize their war crents, meanwhile, what we actually see on the ground is quite different, you have israeli commanders actually admitting that it's it's it's a lot tougher than they expected, there you know they're seeing heavy resistance from the palestinian resistance every time they try to enter you know ghaza, they they they are actually admitting that it's they're suffering heavy losses uh we're also seeing from resistance media you know tanks being destroyed on on designer side, soldiers being liquidated, so on and so forth, so essentially the media just on the west side just wants to keep the cameras rolling on whatever atrocity propaganda the israelis are coming up with, and sometimes they've even like released claims without backing it up with pictures and when they do back it up with pictures, as we've seen they've actually artificially generated these pictures or they've heavily edited them or they've you know taken them out of complete context, so what so what the western media essentially is trying to do is create a... man out of the palestinians while they commit all these different types of atrocities on the palestinian people. now patrick, let's talk
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about telaviv's plan for doing all this, i mean, are they going to exterminate, is this ethnic cleansing, which it seems to be, it's not a conventional war, and then what's next? they want to push the palestinians out, they want to make 10 cities as some people are saying, on seni, parts of jordan, yeah, i think i think this has been... uh said publicly via a number of israeli officials, either indirectly or look at the document that was leaked uh this week, which uh outlines just that, that type of a proposal, and looks like that was done in consultation, at least it appears to be with some members the us government, so that they must be aware of this. this is effectively what you're looking at is uh is ethnic cleansing, but with the threat of force, in other words, if you don't vacate then you will die, that's uh... ethnic cleansing uh, which is uh backed up by genocide. patrick, they are matating and they are dying, they told them to to be
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to go to the uh southern parts and they're boming bombarding the southern part, and even there are more people, larger number of people concentrating there, and they're bombing the rough for crossing, so not allowing aid to come in, so like on every single level, this is like an egregious violation of just any kind of convention, geneva fourth convention, any sort of human rights agreements any international institution. these this is the most violations you could possibly rack up in the shortest space of time and and they've waited three weeks for their you know ground offensive but the reason they've done that is so they can conduct an arms length bombing campaign where they don't have to put any of their troops at risk and it's been overwhelmingly civilian casualties deaths majority of those or a large portion of those are women and children and openly targeting hospitals. un shelters, un schools, churches, mosks, just it's endless. i mean, the the
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rapacious uh, campaign here is like nothing people have ever seen play out on live television, and it's it's really shocking, but what's more shocking is the lack of resolution from western countries to call for a ceasefire, it's like they're saying, it's not a good time, this is what israel's position is, no ceasefire now, now is the time for war, says benjamin netanyahu. so how when has this ever been a policy of the united states to avoid ceasefires or prevent ceasfires when you have massive war crimes occurring, this is really going to be the death now, not just of what we seeing you know the the poor victims of this conflict, but of international institutions, and also the credibility of the united states as an honest broker in the international system, this will be the last nail in their coffin by the end of this, this is absolutely a horrible situation for so many people exactly, and uh shabir, what can be done, i
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mean when you have this designist entity that has no regard for any convention. any norms, nothing, actually, so is it possible through, i don't know mediation, a third party and international organizations, somebody from mars, i don't know what other ways, how can you simply sit a negotiating table with such regime that you know complies with nothing as disregard for no conventions, no international law, no humanitarian law, all kinds of crimes are being. committed, how could you actually uh be there and talk to them and try to address your differences and come to an agreement, and even if you come to an agreement in whatever way, how can it be rest assured that they will comply with that? i think you kind of answered it, they won't comply with it, this is a regime that has been politically backed by imperialist
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colonial powers since this inception and at every time where you know any any country, any person tries to hold it accountable, they're met with smear campaigns, they're demonized uh, the country like the imperialist powers for example like the united states will always back it up politically saying israel has the right to defend itself, well the defending itself look like bombing innocent kids, does it look like bombing you know un buildings, does it look like bombing you know the the al-jazera office for example, no of course not, this is regime that you can't sit down with, and if you sit down with them then you by default in my opinion, blood on your hands, there's no negotiating with this, the only way this regime is going to learn is through force, is through the same kind of violence that it perves uh that that enforces rather on other people, this is an occupation regime, the only way that these occupation regimes as we've seen, these apart regimes that have been dealt with in the past is through national liberation, it will be through the national liberation of the palestinian people
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that this question can finally be settled because this is a regime that will not sit at you at the table, they do sit sit with you at the table. and they're going to ask you to either fall in line or or be destroyed, and and that's that, and so the only way to deal with this is to supporting the resistance, supporting the resistance efforts of the palestinian people, of course, and i believe thoroughly with my heart and with just all the evidence provided before me, that the only way that this regime will see justice is through the rifle of a palestinian resistance. now patrick, as you know, what's going on? in uh gaza these days, is nothing less in genocide, it's maybe even more, it's all kinds of crimes are being perpetrator, crimes against humanity, war crimes, so what about accountability, what's become of justice, when, how could justice be served? well, look, uh, i'm, i'm gonna sort of
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deliver the bad news, which is that i don't think there's going to be any justice served, not through any international. institutions uh, the icc will have very big file, which they are actively pursuing, karim khan said as much publicly, that includes all officials, military, political, everybody within the israeli state, and also uh who might be held accountable in their own countries, which is interesting, is any western leaders that are backing or providing material support for these war crimes, once they are determined to be war crimes, which it looks like there's plenty of evidence for that. regard so they can then be uh arrested, warrants can be issued in their country, not just israeli leaders visiting those countries as we've seen before with uh augusto pinache from chile, ariel sharon and uh tibbani litvy, the uh luco uh official from israel who cannot go to certain countries like i believe the uk uh as well because of these
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charges, so countries can do this locally, but the real biggest change can really only come i think politically, and that is... of course there's the militarily, who knows how and when this could be settled and at what cost to the to the people in this area, the region and the world, but boycott sanctions from countries, from governments against israel could be very effective, and to isolate israel financially uh and economically and politically from much of the world, i think it would send very strong message that what the the way this regime is acting is completely unacceptable, it's barbaric, it's emitty. on so many different levels and it's being completely backed up by us power and us money, that would also send a strong message to the united states as well, the us does this routinely to demonize and isolate. like russia, syria, uh, iran, for instance, north korea, but maybe it's time that the world considers turning the tables on this to show where their moral center is,
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where their moral and ethical center of gravity is, and i think israel is provide going to provide that pretext, and you're going to see bds, i think return with a real vigore, right now uh, exactly, do you also see eye to eye with patrick, because what israel is doing in this genocide that's going on, the more. more it goes on the you know the more awakened people around the world will be and the more they will be pushing their governments to uh look at the the facts and what's happening and not to turn a diff ear to the cris you know the voice of opposition and protest against these really brutalities against palestinians and uh do you see light at the end of tunnel for palestinians? i absolutely do see light at the tunnels i agree with my uh. solution to an extent where you know you can definitely use, the kind of turn the tables on design this occupation uh through refusing to refusing to deal with the occupation, kind of
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like what happened in south africa, but i do firmly believe that it will be up to the national uh resistance of the palestinians in order to truly get justice to truly reach that light at the end of the tunnel. okay, thank you so much uh for a contribution. patrick hanningson, geopolitica analyst in los angeles. shabir rizvy political commentator in chicago and thank you for watching this episode of the spotlight with me or host uh feel on see you next time.
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cover of intense air rates. heavy losses were incurred by the zionist enemies ranks as the palestinian resistance repelled the ground incursion, yet heavy clashes continued in several points of the northern gaza strip. the israeli enemy ground offensive was launched under the cover of violent campaign of air strikes by the entities air force which... imated the northern gaza strip with hundreds of bombs, including internationally banned white phosphorus and cluster munitions. gaza's ring of fire this week on the mid-east stream.
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مجاري نابلس as rules deadly attack on refugee camp in gaza draws international condemnation. iran calls it another stain. long list of the regime's war primes. united nations warns the gaza strips turned into a graveyard for thousands of children, as deaththoll from israel's attacks exceeds 8,500. and iran warns if israel's war crimes continue in the besige gaza strip, no party will be immune to the consequences.
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